During this period, did the nighttime version have the birds eye view of the wheel? I remember it starting with the CGI intro.
I like how Pat and Vanna share the spotlight when they enter (which they started to do from this point on). But to this day, I still miss Vanna's solo entrance.
@jwgreek8606 Independent stations had a tendency to carry network shows that were preempted by the affiliates, so Goen Wheel probably did end up on TV in Orlando, just on an Indy station instead of the CBS affiliate.
For some reason, as soon as Goen Wheel would go to commercial, I always half-expected Allen Kalter to start the breaks with "This USA Network program is brought to you by..." Maybe it's because I spent many an afternoon back then watching the USA Network shows. Funny thing, I still half-expect it to happen whenever I watch the episodes here on YouTube.
At least I seen an episode of the CBS version in Denver. CBS was KMGH 7 at the time catching the next two episiodes and the rest of the week at 8:30 am and Price Is Right was seen at 9am as I seen the KMGH Donahue promo before that.
@samsticka I lived in Madrid, IA in 1989, and this version did not show daytime Wheel on the CBS station where I lived then, I live in Perry, IA and the CBS station I have is KCCI-TV Channel 8.
@samsticka WJBK 2 in Detroit did show this CBS version for the first little while,then they had replaced that and daytime Feud with either other game shows or Phil Donahue.Game shows had been dying a slow death on daytime network TV around this era.
You know, they made the first rounds' wheel look very odd this episode, but that's why I find this episode interesting.
And I know many of you will look at me oddly, but one of the things I liked most about all the daytime episodes were the cheaper values. I do sincerely understand not everyone else does.
Because CBS had a winnings cap on their game shows back then. NBC had no winnings limit. That's why $ale of the Century had six-figure wins and why Super Password had jackpots worth over $25,000.
@deric8 They didn't necessarily remove the cap after that. They increased it to $50,000 months after Michael Larson broke the bank on Press Your Luck. It was further increased again to $75,000 in 1986 and again to $125,000 in the early 90s before it was eliminated all together in 2006.
Ironically though, Tic Tac Dough was owned by CBS and a contestant on that show won more money/prizes than anyone in the history of game shows until Michael Shutterly in WWTBAM in 1999.
Yeah, and I never imagined they would ever use that on Bob's shows! Well at least they increased the total value of the wheel... by only $250! I'd like to buy a vowel with that!
man i thought bob did a good show...cbs just dummed it all down to stupid amounts...shows they dont have as much money as nbc does!!!! notice the difference now with their shows and cbs' shows??? and bob looked young...look at him now on thats the question....btw are they coming back with thats the question? thats the question..
I agree on the tiny cash amounts, but in fairness to CBS, they were really struggling at the time as a network, so it may have made it harder for them to compete with NBC's budget.
I'd rather have just the wheel fucked up than the entire show, as has been the case on the current syndie show since they implemented the toss-up puzzles.
Not only that, it also feels strange listening to Pat Sajak, Chuck Woolery, or Bob Goen say a value not commonly found on today's Wheel, i.e. $75, $225, etc.
RIP Charlie.
Angie2343 4 months ago
During this period, did the nighttime version have the birds eye view of the wheel? I remember it starting with the CGI intro.
I like how Pat and Vanna share the spotlight when they enter (which they started to do from this point on). But to this day, I still miss Vanna's solo entrance.
tsntana 5 months ago
I'm gonna miss Charlie's voice so much.
Angie2343 5 months ago
THOUSANDS DOLLARS IN CASH!?!? SEEMS MORE LIKE HUNDRED DOLLARS IN CASH. $41,000 just isn't enough to spend period compare to pat's nighttime version.
usairwayz 6 months ago
I sure hope Bob reminded Patrick that his arrow was Yellow and not Red during the commercial break.
HarlemHyena 7 months ago
Hell, $50 won't even really get you a tank of gas anymore.
matchgame79 8 months ago
Patrick is from Orlando but I don't think WCPX ever carried Goen Wheel. I think they premmpted it with Sally Jesse Raphael
jwgreek8606 8 months ago
@jwgreek8606 Independent stations had a tendency to carry network shows that were preempted by the affiliates, so Goen Wheel probably did end up on TV in Orlando, just on an Indy station instead of the CBS affiliate.
johnissoevil 6 months ago
Bob Barker would have called this "El Cheapo" Wheel.
RJSchex 10 months ago
They should've kept the "Look at this studio filled with lots of fabulous prizes" opening. I would've enjoyed hearing Charlie do it over the years.
samsticka 1 year ago 2
i wouldn't be surprised if daytime wheel's ratings plummeted briefly in '89.
wheelpsych94 1 year ago
Wow, Charlie O'Donnell really put some life into that intro. I already miss him.
telewatcher89 1 year ago
EEK! $75?! THROW IT BACK!!! XD
MavsFan1982 1 year ago
$41,000 compared to $341,000 on pat sajak's version...
Yep. this one sucks fuck!
WheelWatcher12345 1 year ago
@WheelWatcher12345 I Know! Right? :O
TheJames74s 6 months ago
Bob at 2:07. The way he says five-hundred dollars is funny. He's straining himself spinning the 4,000lb wheel!
RPSteve 1 year ago
"We've got five hundred DOLL-ars over here." xD
PriceRight89 1 year ago
For some reason, as soon as Goen Wheel would go to commercial, I always half-expected Allen Kalter to start the breaks with "This USA Network program is brought to you by..." Maybe it's because I spent many an afternoon back then watching the USA Network shows. Funny thing, I still half-expect it to happen whenever I watch the episodes here on YouTube.
johnissoevil 1 year ago
At least I seen an episode of the CBS version in Denver. CBS was KMGH 7 at the time catching the next two episiodes and the rest of the week at 8:30 am and Price Is Right was seen at 9am as I seen the KMGH Donahue promo before that.
nicka727 2 years ago
Wheel Of Fortune was good on both CBS & NBC Daytime.
Fartingbellybutton 2 years ago
Yeah. Now if only the jackpots were similar...
DownsA530 2 years ago
I knew i recognized Patrick, Patrick McGuire was on The $100,000 Pyramid in 1991 winning $10,000 with the help of Vicki Lawrence.
TexasTV 2 years ago
I lived in Omaha in 1989. I can't remember if KMTV 3, the CBS affiliate there, showed daytime "Wheel" or not.
samsticka 2 years ago
@samsticka I lived in Madrid, IA in 1989, and this version did not show daytime Wheel on the CBS station where I lived then, I live in Perry, IA and the CBS station I have is KCCI-TV Channel 8.
jhzenor61481 1 year ago
@samsticka WJBK 2 in Detroit did show this CBS version for the first little while,then they had replaced that and daytime Feud with either other game shows or Phil Donahue.Game shows had been dying a slow death on daytime network TV around this era.
landrykkb 1 year ago
@landrykkb That's unfortunate. Game shows are a hell of a lot better than soap operas or reality shows.
samsticka 1 year ago
@samsticka I wish we could see a revival of game shows now that the soaps are going off the air.
tsntana 5 months ago
@tsntana Well, CBS revived "Let's Make A Deal" 2 years ago. So we just might start to see that happen even more.
samsticka 5 months ago
@samsticka That's what I'm hoping.
tsntana 5 months ago
@tsntana I'd like to see a revival of "Scrabble" that's reminiscent of the 1984-1990 run. The 1993 revival was OK, but it just wasn't the same.
samsticka 5 months ago 2
@samsticka With Chuck once again as host!
Angie2343 4 months ago
@Angie2343 And Charlie Tuna as the announcer.
samsticka 4 months ago
@samsticka YEAH!
Angie2343 2 months ago
@Angie2343 WHY DIDNT THEY SAY HUCH MONEY COULD BE WON
MyDylan500 1 month ago
You know, they made the first rounds' wheel look very odd this episode, but that's why I find this episode interesting.
And I know many of you will look at me oddly, but one of the things I liked most about all the daytime episodes were the cheaper values. I do sincerely understand not everyone else does.
germanname1990 2 years ago
What the hell $50 and $75. With Bob Goen the wheel got extremely cheap. Like in 1975 when it first primere!
5169743494 2 years ago
Daytime Wheel I can stand (shopping and all), but I hate the Goen version!
c3section 2 years ago
I've never understood the 3 rings in the opening graphics. What was their purpose?
samsticka 2 years ago
I'm glad daytime WHEEL moved to CBS. NBC just couldn't let go of the shopping format.
neilrocks87 3 years ago
In Round 2, the FREE SPIN and Prize wedges did not look good together. They should have done better than that.
jarvisbrodiea1 3 years ago 2
$50? What the hell?
someguy23475 3 years ago 21
My sentiments exactly.
gameshowluvr86 3 years ago 4
I kinda feel sorry for Patrick. WKMG (then WCPX) did not air his episode. Unless 56 carried it
jwgreek8606 3 years ago
Why is the wheel so cheap?
TheConcierge15 3 years ago
Dunno. Possibly due to financial problems -- correct me if I am incorrect.
VikutaaChyaaruzu 3 years ago
Because CBS had a winnings cap on their game shows back then. NBC had no winnings limit. That's why $ale of the Century had six-figure wins and why Super Password had jackpots worth over $25,000.
godgundam10 3 years ago
I don't think that was the case since on Press Your Luck, they removed that cap after Michael Larson won over $110,000
deric8 3 years ago
I thought they took the cap off once TPIR remained as the only network game show.
gameshowguy2000 3 years ago
@deric8 They didn't necessarily remove the cap after that. They increased it to $50,000 months after Michael Larson broke the bank on Press Your Luck. It was further increased again to $75,000 in 1986 and again to $125,000 in the early 90s before it was eliminated all together in 2006.
PriceRight89 1 year ago
Ironically though, Tic Tac Dough was owned by CBS and a contestant on that show won more money/prizes than anyone in the history of game shows until Michael Shutterly in WWTBAM in 1999.
Wolfman12395 3 years ago
It was a daytime show, so it had a smaller budget than its nighttime counterpart.
WhatsAYak 3 years ago
And the infamous $300 space is in place of one of the $50 from the first Bob Goen show.
sommerssmith 3 years ago 2
Wasn't that the same exact space that covered up the free spin wedge in round 2 for the nighttime show?
CLAWS1051 3 years ago
Yep. It was Round 2 during the first couple of years with the all cash format until the Free Spin space disappeared in late 1989.
sommerssmith 3 years ago
Yeah, and I never imagined they would ever use that on Bob's shows! Well at least they increased the total value of the wheel... by only $250! I'd like to buy a vowel with that!
germanname1990 2 years ago
man i thought bob did a good show...cbs just dummed it all down to stupid amounts...shows they dont have as much money as nbc does!!!! notice the difference now with their shows and cbs' shows??? and bob looked young...look at him now on thats the question....btw are they coming back with thats the question? thats the question..
luckyc120 3 years ago
I agree on the tiny cash amounts, but in fairness to CBS, they were really struggling at the time as a network, so it may have made it harder for them to compete with NBC's budget.
DownsA530 3 years ago
And it's in the same font as the yellow $300 space that replaces the Free Spin space for Round 2 on the Nighttime Wheel..Clarefont, right?
gameshowguy2000 2 years ago
Yes indeed.
sommerssmith 2 years ago
the wheel is fucked up!!
giantpants5000 3 years ago 2
I'd rather have just the wheel fucked up than the entire show, as has been the case on the current syndie show since they implemented the toss-up puzzles.
johnissoevil 3 years ago 3
Not only that, it also feels strange listening to Pat Sajak, Chuck Woolery, or Bob Goen say a value not commonly found on today's Wheel, i.e. $75, $225, etc.
VikutaaChyaaruzu 3 years ago
the "Watches" wedge place over the $50 ($700 in the nighttime.)
mylesspike119 3 years ago 2