her kid doesn't even have autism.! She is just upset because her kid inherited the stupid genes from his mom and she is trying to come up with an excuse.
This time he repeats I'm not using current laws, w/o explanation
The CURRENT LAW applicable to vaccine injuries is The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act passed in 1986. This law DOESN'T protect kids, as implied. It protects vaccine makers from damages greater than $1000 & requires kids to file against the govt ONLY IN DC. The Justice Department defends vax, people pay a surcharge on vax which is used to pay claims
The Quakers don't get vaccinations, and they have ZERO Autism.
STOP GETTING VACCINES OF ALL KINDS, especially the FLU shot. This year the FLU shot has H1N1 in it. (see youtubes by Drs. Mercola, Blaylock, Leonard Horowitz)
STOP GIVING YOUR DAUGHTERS THE HPV SHOT -- at least search all the Youtubes of deaths, seizures, and other results from it.
Come on, do the research, anybody with any sense at all should be able to see the obvious cover up that is going on here by our goverment and the FDA. It's all about money, always has been always will be. Go ahead and ask these Dr.'s if they would give their own child these vaccines, knowing what they know. Why the rise in other dseases too? Used to be you knew only a few people with cancer, now it's everywhere. Is that genetic too?
@Lynn1966able Now which is more likely? That the entire medical and scientific community around the world are all in on this conspiracy (since rejection of the link between vaccines and autism is global, not just confined to the US scientific community), or that a Playboy model got her science wrong and is refusing to admit it because of the tragic harm she's caused to hundreds of families?
parle, a dupe or shill. The "entire medical community" is not with Pig pHarma. The only "evidence" they have is "no evidence" of a link in fraudulent epidemiological studies
Dr Bernadine Healy (former NIH Director,Johns Hopkins Professor of Medicine, Cleveland Clinic's Chair of The Research Institute) says "Vaccines may cause autism" & "It's inexcusable the proper research has NOT been done"
Scientists in The Autism Genome Project admit triggers are necessary
Calling me an idiot seems to be your entire argument.... do you have any facts to back that up?
Vaccines/toxins are the only correlation to not only autism, but the rise in many childhood "diseases" actually related to autoimmunity. Vaccines are known to cause autoimmunity in farmed salmon and pets and kids
The records of vaccine court in DC acknowledge that encephalitis, meningitis, rheumatoid arthritis gastrointestinal diseases & more are caused by vaccines
@michael0156 Am I stalking you? No, or is that just psycological projection on your part? The National Autistic Society has claimed that "We recognise that the weight of epidemiological evidence indicates that there is no statistically significant link between the MMR vaccine and autism." Why are you against something that have saved millions of lives by eradicating smallpox, and Pertussis. So why don't you just shut up and fuck off.
@ghandi8749 You make the dishonest claim I am anti-vax. I am not
I am against vaccines mandated since the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act
The NCVIA does not protect kids. It protects vaccine makers from lawsuits when vax injures kids, EVEN WHEN MAKERS ARE NEGLIGENT. This heinous piece of legislation actually FURTHER INJURES KIDS & their families by making it more difficult to receive compensation for vax damage (must sue the govt in DC)
Jenny McCarthy is a hero, along with every other person who stands up to sound the alarm of a meteoric autism rates in lock-step with a parallel rise in # of vaccines & for-profit toxins in vaccines
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The folks who say her connection to adult films disqualifies her from having a correct opinion are ignorant of the facts or simply shilling for the drug industry
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The immense liability for vaccine damage motivates drug industry & manipulated regulators to lie about this issue
@michael0156 McCarthy's claim to fame is that she looks good naked. She was in nursing school for some time but dropped out to strip. That is her story. She has neither the knowledge or the intellegence to understand the subjects she lectures on, but does so anyway for the fame she wants, and if you took the time to look up what she talks about you'd see what a hypocrite she really is.
@Kikora21 I have become familiar with the vaccine autism controversy long before I read anything about Jenny McCarthy
But I can tell you one thing, she knows much more of the truth about this issue than you will ever be willing to admit
That you resort to ad hominem about Jenny instead of addressing the issues & facts she talks about let's everyone reading this know you are not concerned about finding the truth or protecting a small percent of kids who are susceptible to vaccine damage
McCarthy is a hypocrite. Look up the 'Crystal child, Indigo mother' fiasco she was preaching a half a decade ago. She said much the same thing "Cure" wise then, but later claimed her child was diagnosed autistic a year prior. he will do anything for fame and money, which is what this autism crack is about.
She's not even smart enough to come up with own reason why. She says she 'Knows' and other conspiracy theorists fill in the blanks.
People claiming something in public with no proof should be imprisoned. I have no word for this. I know a close friend who refused a meningitis vaccine due to idiotic whores like Jenny. He got meningitis and in less than 8 hours he was gone.
She has no proof. What if the silicone in her breasts caused her child to become autistic? Or the drugs she took while performing as a model? People like her are criminals.
This is getting absolutely ridiculous! She is a glorified stripper preaching about medical issues that scientists around the world all agree is safe. Just listen to her, she is utterly and completely insane. She'll say anything for publicity, and it's not the first time she's whored out her son for more press coverage.
Listen to respectable doctors and studies... All around the world they agree vaccines prevent deadly diseases and do not cause autism. What she suggests is a global conspiracy.
Look for such "proof" & all you will get is manipulated statistical studies designed to not show vax/autism links
Post the 2 best you can find & I will show the fraud or conflicts
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CLINICAL studies are needed
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In 2008 Dr Bernadine Healy, NIH Director, Johns Hopkins Professor of Medicine, Chair of Cleveland Clinic's Research Institute said "Vaccines may cause autism" & "The proper research hasn't been done"
@michael0156 Have you ever actually read any of the studies performed already and formed your own opinion, or are you just what you heard others say?
Denmark did a national study comparing vaccinated children to those whose parents didn't vaccinate and there was no difference in autism rates between the two groups. Over 7 years they tracked every child in their country. That's just one of *many* studies performed.
My question to you is HOW do vaccines cause autism?
@michael0156 There are dozens of studies I could name, but I wont do your homework. I gave one that compared two groups of individuals, and a huge study at that and there was no difference in rate.
Fact is I have debated with dozens of people like you, and you're not someone who listens to reason. Instead of throwing out studies that scientists worldwide performed so you can cut out with conspiracy theories I asked you a question... What about vaccines CAUSES autism?
@Kikora21 You claim "many studies" support your claim vax don't cause autism. I'm waiting for ONLY 2
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Re: your question about how vaccines cause autism. There are several ways vaccines cause neurological damage that can lead to a diagnosis of a Pervasive Developmental Disorder
Meningitis, encephalitis, auto-immunity, bowel infections; the CDC/FDA admit live virus/bacteria vaccines cause this damage
Vax toxins cause problems even in adults. Assaulting a child/infant with 36 shots is abuse
@michael0156 Vaccines exist because the diseases they prevent are fatal, people are living longer healthier lives because of them. Also, as time goes on the vaccines get safer. These 'Vaccine toxins' that you and this McCarthy moron ramble about are in very insignificant doses and administered in ways completely different from how they tend to be dangerous. Also, we're moving more and more away from using 'Live' viruses in vaccines, instead administering the shells or antibodies.
@Kikora21 Vaccines are a huge profit for makers like Merck/GSK/Novartis. Since 1988 no one in the USA can sue a vaccine mfg for more than $1000. Federal law changed vaccine lawsuits to a no fault system, Kids have sue HRSA only in Washington DC, or forget about compensation
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Live virus/bacteria vax are injuring kids every day. Toxins are also taking their toll, on adults as well as kids. Squalene caused autoimmune syndromes in Gulf War soldiers. You are simply a liar
@michael0156 And if you bothered to look up what autism is you'd know that is what autism does. It is a developmental disorder that occurs without warning before two years of age and very rapidly progresses, the thought that vaccines cause autism goes under the 'Causation means correlation' theory and has been disproven more times than science cares to remember.
Now, since you're so bent on me being a liar, why would I lie? I don't work for the CDC, I have nothing to gain.
@michael0156 I'm a mother, and I have nothing to gain by protecting the vaccine company. I have just read the facts and think that this viewpoint is spread by fear, propaganda, and a general lack of knowledge into the field of vaccines.
@michael0156 1 Autism is a regressive disorder, it is part of the diagnosis itself. 2 That has never been proven is any of the MANY studies performed. 3 Then why would they contiunue to lie and spend millions of dollars on research if they are protected from legal action? 4. Even children who aren't vaccinated are diagnosed as autistic at the same rate as those that are. Over-diagnosis and fear mongering is what is causing this rise.
@Kikora21 You disingenuously ask "why would they spend millions if they are protected from legal action"... the admitted harm to kids so far has resulted in $2 billion paid in damages to just 2400 kids. Admitting millions of kids have been damaged would bankrupt the trust fund created by the surcharge we pay on vaccines (we pay the surcharge, not the drug industry)
If the harm is admitted the vaccine program would collapse. The profits would stop, the govt/corp/medical lies revealed
@michael0156 So you're a conspiracy theoriest? Vaccines are medicine, and like all medicine they carry risks. No one denies that, I certainly didn't. What I said is that vaccines have never been shown to cause autism. They have been shown to cause, in rare cases, other problems... But rarely. What they protect against is far, far worst.
@Kikora21 You simply lie for the profit of the drug industry
Up until 1988 we were fine with 12 vaccines. After the government absolved the drug industry from any liability for vaccine damage they manipulated the system to add unnecessary vaccines, tripling the schedule. Toxins were used to boost profit. Using old preservatives or inexpensive ones, GE bacteria making antigen, cheap adjuvants to reduced expensive antigen needed... the motivation is profit, not health
@michael0156 Why would I lie? This is why I am losing interest fast in this. I can't argue with someone whose defense is 'You're a liar because corporation makes money.' Why? I am the mother of a delightful headache of a two year old, and all I want is to keep her safe. You wont listen to anything I have to say based on this idea that is I opose you then I must side with 'the man' and it makes a reasonable debate impossible. I have better things to do then be pulled into insanity.
@Kikora21 In 2008 Dr Bernadine Healy told CBS News "Vaccines may cause autism" & "It's inexcusable that the proper research has not been done"
Dr Healy is a former Director of the NIH, Professor of Medicine at Johns Hoplins, Chair of The Cleveland Clinic's Research Institute
Her opinion is relevant & expert
All you offer is Pig pHarma propaganda, no evidence, then claim you have better things to do. Go do them sweetheart. Your ignorant parroting of FDA & drug industry lies is useless here.
@michael0156 Years ago the diagnosis of autism was hard to get. A child had to show symptoms before two, get better and regress, stim, and show all the other signs of autism. Today autism has gown to encompass a very vast number of symptoms that are often contradictory. Add that in with media hype and over zealous parents and you have a recipe for disaster. Someone like MrsMee's daughter I do not doubt might be autistic, but many others simply are not.
Why would you give somebody a LIVE vaccine...you might as well cough TB in their face and call it good. It's called "live attenuated" vaccines. Know what you're talking about before you start calling people out.
Live vaccines cause hundreds of injuries every year. The VICP FDA CDC & Vaccine Court recognize that live virus cause encephaltitis, meningitis, bowel disease. They are also known to cause the very diseases they are designed to protect against. This happens in kids & adults whose immune systems are impaired due to genes, toxic exposures (including vaccine or drug exposures), poor nutrition, or are on immune suppression therapy
Research before you accuse others of being ignorant
@michael0156 Vaccines are a huge profit for makers like Merck/GSK/Novartis....vaccines only make up 2% of profits
Squalene caused autoimmune syndromes in Gulf War soldiers.....never been proven, and you do know your body produces more squalene then you would ever get from a vax right?
@noliesundead squalene is known to cause autoimmunity in people. For this reason it is banned in USA vaccines. It was "inadvertantly" administered to thousands of Gulf War soldiers who are known to now have autoimmune diseases and antibodies to squalene. You shills will tell any lie, support any hoax, try any deception to protect the drug industry
Study showing nearly 100% correlation of Gulf War Syndrome to squalene antibodies
@michael0156 squalene is known to cause autoimmunity in people. For this reason it is banned in USA vaccines. It was "inadvertantly" administered to thousands of Gulf War soldiers who are known to now have autoimmune diseases and antibodies to squalene. You shills will tell any lie, support any hoax, try any deception to protect the drug industry....again not proven, and your finger tips make more squalene then the vax's.
@michael0156 Study showing nearly 100% correlation of Gulf War Syndrome to squalene antibodies
Pharmacoepidemiology and Drug Safety.Short-term reactogenicity and gender effect of anthrax vaccine: analysis of a 1967-1972 study and review of the 1955-2005 medical literature....says otherwise, and since the same vax are still used and the rate of autoimmunity has not change kinda ruins your argument. you fucking novice
Vaccines are PURE PROFIT/NO RISK money makers for drug companies. CDC guarantees contracts for many vax. Since 1986 The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (NCVIA) shields vaccine makers from damage lawsuits, even negligence
The NCVIA, far from protecting kids, forces them to sue the HHS secretary for compensation - only in DC - fighting The Department of Justice. Plaintiff lawyer fees are determined by judges. Awards are paid from a vax surcharge paid by "we the people", not vaccine makers
@michael0156 Vaccines are PURE PROFIT/NO RISK money makers for drug companies. CDC guarantees contracts for many vax. Since 1986 The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (NCVIA) shields vaccine makers from damage lawsuits...again 2% of profit. and you need to look up the CURRENT laws you're living in the past(to make a point)
noliesundead continues to make unsubstantiated claims that vaccines are only 2% of profits
He apparently compares vax profits overall to ALL drug profits. When even large companies make 12-15 vaccines (like Merck, Glaxo, Novartis) they become a main revenue stream. Add no insurance, lawyers or compensation awards, that tremendously increases profits
If vax are found to cause regressive autism & vax makers are held accountable it will cost 100s of billions
@michael0156 He apparently compares vax profits overall to ALL drug profits. well yes, since none of those company's you name only survive on vax sales. again only 2% of there total profit, of course it looks like super big number if you cut out the rest of there income like you're trying to do, and if you have to be decepctive to make your point, then its a weak argument.
if you want to see how much they make from what you can, since their publicly traded companies
@michael0156 Add no insurance, lawyers or compensation awards, that tremendously increases profits
If vax are found to cause regressive autism & vax makers are held accountable it will cost 100s of billions
..AGAIN use the CURRENT LAWS, using the older ones is 1) deceptive 2) shows you care more about your argument then the truth. Why does nolies do nothing but lie?......how again then i lie? i cite source and you have not refuted ONE of them? attack the argument not me
@michael0156 why you leave out the fact no squalene was used in the vax's during the gulf war? and that study you give was the only one to find Persian Gulf War Syndrome patients are significantly more likely to have antibodies to squalene (95 percent) than asymptomatic Gulf War veterans, but goes on to say
@michael0156 "It is important to note that our laboratory-based investigations do not establish that squalene was added as adjuvant to any vaccine used in military or other personnel who served in the Persian Gulf War era."
@michael0156 US Institute of Medicine stated that "The committee does not regard this study as providing evidence that the investigators have successfully measured antibodies to squalene", since the authors did not perform the normal scientific controls needed show that their test was specific to anti-squalene antibodies.
The vaccines were also tested for squalene, and none was detected with standard methods-J Pharm Biomed Anal 29 (1-2): 183–93....so how does it fell to get the smackdown?
1. An anecdotal statement from the IOM does not contradict the results of the study detecting anti-squalene antibodies in veterans & civilians with Gulf War Syndrome. That the IOM would ignore the results w/o contradicting evidence shows blatant drug industry bias
2. The study nolies quotes about squalene free vax tested anthrax vax from 1997 - completely unrelated to Gulf War Syndrome which occurred 1990-1991 when soldiers/civilians were injected with squalene
@michael0156 1An anecdotal statement from the IOM does not contradict the results of the study detecting anti-squalene antibodies in veterans & civilians with Gulf War Syndrome....again the study was not designed to find that, and when the vax's were tested no squalene was found. and i pointed to studies that contradict it,and the study you cite lacks proper controls
2, again squalene was not found in the vax's of that time.(J Pharm Biomed Anal 29 (1-2): 183–93)
Why do you lie? People are living longer healthier lives because we have better sanitation, nutrition & hygiene, not because of vaccines
The USA child & infant population is the most highly vaccinated in the world, yet we also have the highest infant/child mortality rates of any industrialized nation
Diseases once rare in kids are commonplace like cancer, Type II diabetes, autism, ADHD, MS, allergies (which are immune problems)
Vaccine/toxin overload correlates to rising disease/death in kids
@michael0156 I am not lying, you're just a moron. ^^ Seriously, to begin with since this is about McCarthy she is not qualified to speak on the subjects she does, and if you looked up her past actions you would see that. She doesn't think andresearch... She KNOWS. She KNEW her son was a crystal child and said all natural an all natural life was the right way to raise psychic magic children. When that didn't give her the attention she wanted he became autistic and guess what is saving him?
@Kikora21 My niece was born a perfectly healthy baby girl.She would laugh and smile and if you called her name she would turn her head and look at right at you.At nine months old she was taken to the doctors to recieve her vaccinations.She slept for a full day after coming home from the doctors which my sis thought was very strange...and then we noticed she was a little different...no longer responsive to our calls...and not learning at the same rate she was...
@mrsmee777 today she is twelve years old and cannot even say her own name...please hope this doesnt happen to anyone in your own family bc then you will understand why we need people like Jenny to spread the word for help for children like my niece
@mrsmee777 What Jenny is doing is killing children. There is no research supporting anything a playboy model is spouting off, but people rush behind it because they think they know more than hundreds of scientists worldwide. Her stance of confusing correlation and causation has the world in an uproar, and uneducated parents are becoming paranoid, which is leading to an overdiagnosis of autism, which further supports her cause. She is supporting her media addiction though you.
@Kikora21 I'm still waiting for you to stand behind the 2 best pieces of evidence you have that vaccines are not correlated to autism. Only 2, List authors, conflicts sponsors key points. I will expose the studies as wrong irrelevant fraudulent or too conflicted to be believed
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You claim hundreds of studies or scientists back your lies, then use 2 to make your point
@mrsmee777 Think about the people supporting this movement. Mothers with no medical training, doctors who broke the law and medical ethics to get their results, a playboy model... VS entire countries worth of scientists testing vaccines and making sure they are safe.
ALSO, look again at the above. The ones who support this vaccines propaganda are the ones profiting from it!
@mrsmee777 In the end what this theory amounts to is an old wives tale. Because someone made an observation and it has ballooned out of control.
All that aside, even if vaccines did cause autism ((They don't)) I'd rather have an autistic child than a dead one. We vaccinate against fatal diseases, and as they come back children are dying. Countries where these diseases are still common would gladly trade autism for a corpse, but developed countries have forgotten how bad it is.
@Kikora21 More drug industry fear mongering & denialist ramblings
You are clearly attempting to protect Pig pHarma profits or salve your own guilty conscience. It doesn't matter to me which, your actions support harming more & more children
Vaccine for-profit toxins need to be eliminated
Kids injured by live virus/bacteria in vaccines need to be identified BEFORE they are injected
Your agenda of fear is obvious, your avoidance of facts helps to injure and kill children every day
@michael0156 Fear mongering? Diseases we vaccinate against kill every day and there is very little medical science can do to save a child when infected with a deadly virus. That's a fact. You can disinfect your house and try to keep children safe, but outbreaks would happen is herd immunity fails, and children would die, there's another. Vaccine death is extremely rare, and despite millions spent on vaccine research no link has been found between it and autism.
2 pieces of evidence that vaccines are not related to autism. I'm still waiting. List lead authors, conflicts, sponsors key points
You keep referring to evidence, post the 2 best you can find
Everything you say is straight out of the Pig pHarma playbook. You have no evidence vaccines are safe for all kids. Vacines are known to damage children every day. We disagree on the amount of harm done
1990-2009 Vaccines & their for-profit toxins rose 300%, autism rose 3300%
@michael0156 I already said I am not interested enough to do your homework. I used to be really big into this debate, but learned conspiracy theorists can't be reasoned with. Instead of it being the research independantly it becomes 'business is bad, and corporation is out to get you'. It happens, but the extent people drive at makes it impossible to accept even basic truths, and it is causing bloodshed. All the knowledge I've gathered does no good against a closed mind. I'm just a 'liar' to you
@Kikora21 now runs away from the argument by saying he won't produce any evidence because I won't believe it...lol
I've read all the major studies or the abstracts. I have read both pros & cons of these studies like Paul Offit & Edward Yazbak. The evidence is out there for everyone to see if you are creative enough to find it or read my posts
Kikora knows the truth, he knows he is lying to protect Pig pHarma profits, that is why he refuses to post any evidence...
@michael0156 The fact of the matter is that there is material on both the vaccines and all the ingredients. It's out there, I read it two years ago when Rose was going to be vaccinated. The bacteria live virus, the aluminum, the other chemicals people like McCarthy talk about. I read on the amount dosage, the way it is applied, why it is in there. Went in with an open mind because I have nothing to gain either way but Rose's health, and after a helluvalot of reading came to this comclusion.
@Kikora21 The Vaccine Court has records of 2400 vaccine damaged kids resulting in the payment of $2 billion. 13,000 other plaintiffs were denied. This smll # of families are the ones that could afford to go to Washington DC to sue. If you want to appeal you still have to go to DC
The majority of kids will have no long lasting effects from vaccination, but many will. More kids every year are damaged by for-profit toxins & live vaccines. We should find those kids BEFORE they are injected
@michael0156 That said, I can't say a damn thing to change your mind, and I know that. I could cite research on Ethyl-Mercury done by private universities. I could direct you to several other possible causes like over diagnosis, diet changes, and different diseases today that could contribute to autism rates. Like Celiac's disease and the like. But as long as I am the faceless liar on youtube I can't get through your thick skull.
@Kikora21 Again you offer no evidence. You make unsupported comments about diet, over diagnosis & diseases causing autism
These comments are ALL WRONG, the FDA/CDC know they are wrong, no one has any evidence to support them, but you go through the trouble to repeat them, AGAIN, without a shred of evidence to back you up
@michael0156 I did not comment to do your homework, and I wont be pushed into doing it. Period. There has never been any scientific evidense supporting the vaccine autism myth, your evidense is basically a scientist here or there saying 'Well I suppose it could', and you take it as absolute fact.
I said not once, but several times through this that I will not be sucked into your insanity.This conspiracy theory 'Us against them' attitude is impossible to reason with.
@Kikora21 Again you offer no evidence and blame me for you not offering it. Of course that is without logic or reasoning. Your comments offer nothing to debate. You ignore me and you ignore what the FDA and CDC have to say on the matter. You ignore Dr Bernadine Healy, Dr Hilary Coon and Dr Edward yazbak... I guess we're all ont he same conspiracy train you have made up?
If you don't want to offer evidence then stop your baseless ignorant comments
@michael0156 I will just say , and you can take it and shove it. Over diagnosis happens, especially when media hype has every mother in the country looking for the tiniest little difference in their child that could point to autism. The diagnosis for autism has grown broader over time, so of course more children are diagnosed. It's not a startling trend, it's common sense. Autism used to be a very hard diagnosis to get. It's not that way anymore.
@Kikora21 you keep insisting autism's rise is overdiagnosis but you ignore that the CDC & FDA disagree with you... along with the majority of the people in the world with an opinion
The diagnostic criteria changed slightly in 1994 with the publication by the American Psychiatric Association's DSM-IV. All forms of autism are on the rise, including regressive autism. Childhood disintegrative disorder is rising as well
Are you familiar with any of this? If not stop your commenting
@michael0156 And for Celiac's disease, which I mentioned before. Celiac's often mimics the symptoms of autism, especially in those who show symptoms young. The treatment for Celiac's happens to be a wheat-free gluten-free diet, simular to the one McCarthy claimed "Cured" her "Autistic" son. This diet has had varying results with other "Autistic" children, resembling the recovery they would make from treatment of Celiac's disease.
@Kikora21 What is your purpose? You spout nothing but Pig pHarma propaganda, outright lie, and someitmes just make things up... To what end do you find yourself going?
I have never met anyone spouting so much nonsense that has no basis in fact
@Kikora21 In "diseases that kill" compromised immunity, not the disease, is the determining factor
Vaccines can't help someone with a compromised immune system. Despite being vaccinated some still get ill
Kid's & adult's immune systems can be compromised by toxic exposure, poor nutrition, genes. Vaccine toxins can cause adult autoimmunity, like squalene in Gulf War Syndrome . Drug industries profit from toxins that screw up our immunity, like Enbrel, Remicade, Singulair & dozens more
@michael0156 Vaccines help protect as long as a certain percentage of the population is vaccinated. It works in herd immunity more than individual immunity. If people would vaccinate there wouldn't be the same room for children with compromised immune systems to get ill as there is now that people aren't vaccinating. Think of it as a wall of defense in a community, and antivaxers are blowing holes in it because it 'Was made by the man!!!!!'
@Kikora21 You are spouting the same nonsense Pig pHarma wants you to believe. In 1988 no one in the USA could sue a vaccine maker. A law was passed to make the Federal Government the defendant in all vaccine lawsuits. When that happened vaccine makers bribed regulatory officials and stacked Vaccine Boards with pro-industry people. Since 1990 the vaccine schedule increased 300%. Autism rose 3300%
The FDA refuses to clinically study this obvious correlation.
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@michael0156 Next, I am still not lying. Vaccines play a big role in the health of children today. People stop vaccinating, and there is an outbreak and children die, that is a fact. What you are saying is simply due to a change in perspective and attitude to disease. What is today autism was 'demonic possession' or 'eccentric', Allergies was just 'hayfever' or 'A bit of sneezing'. Blame society today for needing to diagnose everything, not vaccines for happening to exist.
Ugg-ugg..pretty girl say it...must be true...must be true. More beer...pretty girl say...boobies! boobies! Must be true! No vaccinate kids...take them to WWE instead...teach them well to jump off furniture...ugg-ugg. Pretty girl. Shiny dress...
@Ghozteit Well if it severe enough it is something you would want to cure. Aren't some kids with autism quite negatively affected by it? I.E. Injuring themselves, excessive crying, extreme difficulty with communication... It can be pretty horrific for the parents as well.
Jenny McCarthy speaks about the autism subject like she is someone on crack, I am an autistic person myself and I know Jenny is exaggerating things and making herself out to be the trained professional that she's not.
She's after publicity. She said that her son was diagnosed in only 5 minutes. In reality, it takes months to diagnose. It took ten years for me to be officially diagnosed. She deserves a good slap in mouth.
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Jenny is a "Hands on Mom". She has done lots of homework and taking charge of the situation. Shes not giving up her responsibility to some "professional" or the mostly corrupt medical industry.
I think she needs to be replaced. After all, she presents her points in a selfish manner. Then again, she is a brat.
"I want to be these women's voices. When I was 20, I had a feeling I'd be an activist, but I always thought, 'Please, God, don't let it be breast cancer. Now I can't tell you how much I wish it was breast cancer."
WWE... where else can you find such a massive gathering of overweight 30 year old virgins who live in their moms basements and have no jobs and poor social skills
It is not lies you nazi shithead. These are scientific facts and diciks like you are just assholes wanting attention. Go and pock on tough nazis not people with illneses you cunt.
As science based information must be unbiased and without emotion, and parents (anecdotal) information about their children are never without bias and emotion.
He is an evil right wing dj who spends his time saying people with this illness should be beaten asa "cure". There are nuts who claim this is just some made up illness. I see that is not your point.
Her son almost died! You don't know what the hell you're talking about, Her son was diagnosed by a physician. Read her books and then get back to me.
I've read them and they are the written version of her stupidity and they are always told in a selfish manner. Then again, what else do you expect from someone like Jenny McCarthy? Her son was diagnosed in only 5 minutes. In reality, it takes months of testing to make an official diagnosis.
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The more I see of this empty headed, EX- PLAYBOY MODEL the more angry I become! My son is autistic and he's a happy little boy who wakes up every morning with a spring in his step, enthusiastic about the day ahead. I am autistic and *shock horror* I'm managing a university education as well as bringing up 2 sons. I guess I don't fit into her warped idea of perfection. Then again now she's an EX- PLAYBOY MODEL she needs to make some money from a different set of gullible twits.... PARENTS.
@Einalem1981 The general public agrees with you. She is getting less and less media attention due to her profound stupidity. She doesn't even know if autistic adults exist, that shows just how indiscribably stupid that she is.
her attitude aside, what I find more disturbing is that she claims that MMR vaccines give people autism despite not a single peer-reviewed and legitimate study demonstrating this to be the case. Her ignorance and stupidity infuriates me.
@Einalem1981 You & your son are not regressively autistic or have childhood disintegrative disorder. From your limited descriptions you both appear to have Asperger's Syndrome, which is not autism
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This reveals another problem with your story. Anyone with Asperger's KNOWS it is not autism
Then how does one explain your statement that you have autism? You are lying
If she were autistic, she would have a more interesting story to tell. She would have more understanding and experience. She would know just about everything she could learn about on her one, specific area. In other words, If she were autistic, she would understand a lot more about autism, and she would not be an idiot curebie.
Autism is only a problem if the child is unhealthy and needs help to be comfortable and function. Your not bad. As parents we just dont want to see our kids suffer in pain thats all.
Autism is very fast growing my cousin have it and realy hard to take care of him some times i hope people donate to find cure for this illness and don't make fun of it jenny is doing a great job with the huge fan base of the WWE
SHE IS NOT ANTI VACCINE ...she just wants tests done to see if children are able to handle the freakin 60 or so vaccines given to them in such a short amount of time. And she wants to cut that number down. She understands that vaccines are very important and isn't saying don't get your child vaccinated. Do your research before speaking.
Interesting. She makes it sound like autism is a bad thing. If I had the option to be non-autistic for the rest of my life, I wouldn't do it. I think there are a lot of good things that come with autism. I may not be able to make eye contact with anyone, but I have a very unique way of thinking and I love my life.
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promiseIsaih60 5 months ago
her kid doesn't even have autism.! She is just upset because her kid inherited the stupid genes from his mom and she is trying to come up with an excuse.
765lbsquat 1 year ago
"The Institute of Medicine has concluded that evidence favors rejection of a causal relationship between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism."
Immunization Safety Review: Vaccines and Autism. A report of the Institute of Medicine. The National Academy Press, Washington, DC 2004.
Orionx30 1 year ago
nolies again lies
This time he repeats I'm not using current laws, w/o explanation
The CURRENT LAW applicable to vaccine injuries is The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act passed in 1986. This law DOESN'T protect kids, as implied. It protects vaccine makers from damages greater than $1000 & requires kids to file against the govt ONLY IN DC. The Justice Department defends vax, people pay a surcharge on vax which is used to pay claims
"Free market" drugs, socialized compensation
michael0156 1 year ago
Great that she does this, but she really says that she worries about prople getinng hurt etc at the WWE ? xD
SiouxGER 1 year ago
i just came here to see her boobs
SilverCreature1190 1 year ago
What does "Smackdown on Autism" even mean?
animalcrosser591 1 year ago
Why the fuck does anyone listen to her? She's just some rich porn star, how the fuck does she know anything?
DevoutSkeptic 1 year ago
Well one thing's for certain, she's definitely related to Joe McCarthy.
DevoutSkeptic 1 year ago
I don't get why WWE is so stupid and lets her speak in their show. All she says about autism is wrong and has been disproven. I fucking hate her.
larsnienbergmusic 1 year ago
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The Quakers don't get vaccinations, and they have ZERO Autism.
STOP GETTING VACCINES OF ALL KINDS, especially the FLU shot. This year the FLU shot has H1N1 in it. (see youtubes by Drs. Mercola, Blaylock, Leonard Horowitz)
STOP GIVING YOUR DAUGHTERS THE HPV SHOT -- at least search all the Youtubes of deaths, seizures, and other results from it.
GThomason 1 year ago
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"As the mother of two Autistic Children, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for posting this!"
How very sad to think of mothers around the world who believed in McCArthy.
This is the nature of "movements" that get free publicity.
McCarthy pushed her nonsensical movement against vaccinations and many parents followed her suggestions.
Since then, many of those parents have grieved over the death of a child that could have been avoided...619 & counting.
Google:
Jenny McCarthy Body Count
exposefraud 1 year ago
Come back to Smackdown Jenny. You are great.
RVWCBBA 1 year ago
Come on, do the research, anybody with any sense at all should be able to see the obvious cover up that is going on here by our goverment and the FDA. It's all about money, always has been always will be. Go ahead and ask these Dr.'s if they would give their own child these vaccines, knowing what they know. Why the rise in other dseases too? Used to be you knew only a few people with cancer, now it's everywhere. Is that genetic too?
Lynn1966able 1 year ago
@Lynn1966able Now which is more likely? That the entire medical and scientific community around the world are all in on this conspiracy (since rejection of the link between vaccines and autism is global, not just confined to the US scientific community), or that a Playboy model got her science wrong and is refusing to admit it because of the tragic harm she's caused to hundreds of families?
parlezuml 1 year ago
parle, a dupe or shill. The "entire medical community" is not with Pig pHarma. The only "evidence" they have is "no evidence" of a link in fraudulent epidemiological studies
Dr Bernadine Healy (former NIH Director,Johns Hopkins Professor of Medicine, Cleveland Clinic's Chair of The Research Institute) says "Vaccines may cause autism" & "It's inexcusable the proper research has NOT been done"
Scientists in The Autism Genome Project admit triggers are necessary
YOU are harming kids, not Jenny
michael0156 1 year ago
I hope you don't have kids. Idiot.
ghandi8749 1 year ago
ghandi? Are you stalking me now?
Calling me an idiot seems to be your entire argument.... do you have any facts to back that up?
Vaccines/toxins are the only correlation to not only autism, but the rise in many childhood "diseases" actually related to autoimmunity. Vaccines are known to cause autoimmunity in farmed salmon and pets and kids
The records of vaccine court in DC acknowledge that encephalitis, meningitis, rheumatoid arthritis gastrointestinal diseases & more are caused by vaccines
michael0156 1 year ago
@michael0156 Am I stalking you? No, or is that just psycological projection on your part? The National Autistic Society has claimed that "We recognise that the weight of epidemiological evidence indicates that there is no statistically significant link between the MMR vaccine and autism." Why are you against something that have saved millions of lives by eradicating smallpox, and Pertussis. So why don't you just shut up and fuck off.
ghandi8749 1 year ago
@ghandi8749 You make the dishonest claim I am anti-vax. I am not
I am against vaccines mandated since the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act
The NCVIA does not protect kids. It protects vaccine makers from lawsuits when vax injures kids, EVEN WHEN MAKERS ARE NEGLIGENT. This heinous piece of legislation actually FURTHER INJURES KIDS & their families by making it more difficult to receive compensation for vax damage (must sue the govt in DC)
Vaccines are a gravy train for drug makers
michael0156 1 year ago
People live healthier & longer because of better sanitation/nutrition/hygiene, not vaccines
USA infants & kids are the most vaccinated, yet we have the highest infant/child mortality of any industrialized nation
Diseases once rare in kids are common. Cancer, Type II diabetes, autism, ADHD, MS, allergies
Vaccines cause autoimmunity in farmed salmon, veteran's Gulf War Syndrome, autism symptoms in macaques, encephalitis & blood disorders in kids & more
It's time to clean them up & protect kids
justthetruth3 1 year ago 2
if her kid didnt have it she wouldnt care less about it
kkryan1 1 year ago
Jenny McCarthy is a hero, along with every other person who stands up to sound the alarm of a meteoric autism rates in lock-step with a parallel rise in # of vaccines & for-profit toxins in vaccines
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The folks who say her connection to adult films disqualifies her from having a correct opinion are ignorant of the facts or simply shilling for the drug industry
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The immense liability for vaccine damage motivates drug industry & manipulated regulators to lie about this issue
michael0156 1 year ago 4
@michael0156 McCarthy's claim to fame is that she looks good naked. She was in nursing school for some time but dropped out to strip. That is her story. She has neither the knowledge or the intellegence to understand the subjects she lectures on, but does so anyway for the fame she wants, and if you took the time to look up what she talks about you'd see what a hypocrite she really is.
Kikora21 1 year ago
@Kikora21 I have become familiar with the vaccine autism controversy long before I read anything about Jenny McCarthy
But I can tell you one thing, she knows much more of the truth about this issue than you will ever be willing to admit
That you resort to ad hominem about Jenny instead of addressing the issues & facts she talks about let's everyone reading this know you are not concerned about finding the truth or protecting a small percent of kids who are susceptible to vaccine damage
michael0156 1 year ago 8
McCarthy is a hypocrite. Look up the 'Crystal child, Indigo mother' fiasco she was preaching a half a decade ago. She said much the same thing "Cure" wise then, but later claimed her child was diagnosed autistic a year prior. he will do anything for fame and money, which is what this autism crack is about.
She's not even smart enough to come up with own reason why. She says she 'Knows' and other conspiracy theorists fill in the blanks.
Kikora21 1 year ago
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People claiming something in public with no proof should be imprisoned. I have no word for this. I know a close friend who refused a meningitis vaccine due to idiotic whores like Jenny. He got meningitis and in less than 8 hours he was gone.
She has no proof. What if the silicone in her breasts caused her child to become autistic? Or the drugs she took while performing as a model? People like her are criminals.
ProxySpam 1 year ago
She has become an activist promoting controversial claims that vaccines cause autism and that chelation therapy is effective against autism.
endometriosissi 1 year ago
I'd love to see some before and after videos to show that her son really is "cured"
Reichieru1 1 year ago
you know when people try to help and then just go way way over the top, well, mix that with blonde and you get her,
smishlines 1 year ago
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Jenny McCarthy proving blonde stereotypical jokes, since circa 1972.
Romansteel13 1 year ago
She loves her son! I commend Jenny on her hard work with her son's improvement!
donnamariealba 1 year ago 2
This is getting absolutely ridiculous! She is a glorified stripper preaching about medical issues that scientists around the world all agree is safe. Just listen to her, she is utterly and completely insane. She'll say anything for publicity, and it's not the first time she's whored out her son for more press coverage.
Listen to respectable doctors and studies... All around the world they agree vaccines prevent deadly diseases and do not cause autism. What she suggests is a global conspiracy.
Kikora21 1 year ago
No one knows the autism's cause
No one has proved vaccines do not cause autism
Look for such "proof" & all you will get is manipulated statistical studies designed to not show vax/autism links
Post the 2 best you can find & I will show the fraud or conflicts
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CLINICAL studies are needed
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In 2008 Dr Bernadine Healy, NIH Director, Johns Hopkins Professor of Medicine, Chair of Cleveland Clinic's Research Institute said "Vaccines may cause autism" & "The proper research hasn't been done"
michael0156 1 year ago
@michael0156 Have you ever actually read any of the studies performed already and formed your own opinion, or are you just what you heard others say?
Denmark did a national study comparing vaccinated children to those whose parents didn't vaccinate and there was no difference in autism rates between the two groups. Over 7 years they tracked every child in their country. That's just one of *many* studies performed.
My question to you is HOW do vaccines cause autism?
Kikora21 1 year ago
The Denmark study was by Madsen (is this 1 of your 2 best?)
It did not study any kids, it looked at records & set up a study "design" to get desired results
It is a known manipulation of data to support drug companies' claims that vaccines do not cause autism
These type studies (statistics/epidemiology) CANNOT prove anything
I already challenged you to post the best 2 you can find, stand behind them. I'll ensure the fan is pointed at you when the shit hits it
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CLINICAL studies are needed
michael0156 1 year ago
@michael0156 There are dozens of studies I could name, but I wont do your homework. I gave one that compared two groups of individuals, and a huge study at that and there was no difference in rate.
Fact is I have debated with dozens of people like you, and you're not someone who listens to reason. Instead of throwing out studies that scientists worldwide performed so you can cut out with conspiracy theories I asked you a question... What about vaccines CAUSES autism?
Kikora21 1 year ago
@Kikora21 You claim "many studies" support your claim vax don't cause autism. I'm waiting for ONLY 2
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Re: your question about how vaccines cause autism. There are several ways vaccines cause neurological damage that can lead to a diagnosis of a Pervasive Developmental Disorder
Meningitis, encephalitis, auto-immunity, bowel infections; the CDC/FDA admit live virus/bacteria vaccines cause this damage
Vax toxins cause problems even in adults. Assaulting a child/infant with 36 shots is abuse
michael0156 1 year ago
@michael0156 Vaccines exist because the diseases they prevent are fatal, people are living longer healthier lives because of them. Also, as time goes on the vaccines get safer. These 'Vaccine toxins' that you and this McCarthy moron ramble about are in very insignificant doses and administered in ways completely different from how they tend to be dangerous. Also, we're moving more and more away from using 'Live' viruses in vaccines, instead administering the shells or antibodies.
Kikora21 1 year ago
@Kikora21 Vaccines are a huge profit for makers like Merck/GSK/Novartis. Since 1988 no one in the USA can sue a vaccine mfg for more than $1000. Federal law changed vaccine lawsuits to a no fault system, Kids have sue HRSA only in Washington DC, or forget about compensation
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Live virus/bacteria vax are injuring kids every day. Toxins are also taking their toll, on adults as well as kids. Squalene caused autoimmune syndromes in Gulf War soldiers. You are simply a liar
michael0156 1 year ago 9
@michael0156 And if you bothered to look up what autism is you'd know that is what autism does. It is a developmental disorder that occurs without warning before two years of age and very rapidly progresses, the thought that vaccines cause autism goes under the 'Causation means correlation' theory and has been disproven more times than science cares to remember.
Now, since you're so bent on me being a liar, why would I lie? I don't work for the CDC, I have nothing to gain.
Kikora21 1 year ago
@Kikora21 A liar claiming he has nothing to gain by lying... Lol
You misstated. What you wanted to say is "Correlation does not equal causation"
The facts
1 No one knows the cause of regressive/late onset autism
2 It is associated with vaccination
3 1988, Govt makes vaccine mfgs immune from lawsuits
4 1990-2009 The # of vaccines & their toxins increased 300%, autism up by 3300%
That correlation DEMANDS clinical study. Such a study will prove or disprove the correlation. That's science!!
michael0156 1 year ago
@michael0156 I'm a mother, and I have nothing to gain by protecting the vaccine company. I have just read the facts and think that this viewpoint is spread by fear, propaganda, and a general lack of knowledge into the field of vaccines.
Kikora21 1 year ago
@michael0156 1 Autism is a regressive disorder, it is part of the diagnosis itself. 2 That has never been proven is any of the MANY studies performed. 3 Then why would they contiunue to lie and spend millions of dollars on research if they are protected from legal action? 4. Even children who aren't vaccinated are diagnosed as autistic at the same rate as those that are. Over-diagnosis and fear mongering is what is causing this rise.
Kikora21 1 year ago
@Kikora21 You disingenuously ask "why would they spend millions if they are protected from legal action"... the admitted harm to kids so far has resulted in $2 billion paid in damages to just 2400 kids. Admitting millions of kids have been damaged would bankrupt the trust fund created by the surcharge we pay on vaccines (we pay the surcharge, not the drug industry)
If the harm is admitted the vaccine program would collapse. The profits would stop, the govt/corp/medical lies revealed
michael0156 1 year ago
@michael0156 So you're a conspiracy theoriest? Vaccines are medicine, and like all medicine they carry risks. No one denies that, I certainly didn't. What I said is that vaccines have never been shown to cause autism. They have been shown to cause, in rare cases, other problems... But rarely. What they protect against is far, far worst.
Kikora21 1 year ago
@Kikora21 You simply lie for the profit of the drug industry
Up until 1988 we were fine with 12 vaccines. After the government absolved the drug industry from any liability for vaccine damage they manipulated the system to add unnecessary vaccines, tripling the schedule. Toxins were used to boost profit. Using old preservatives or inexpensive ones, GE bacteria making antigen, cheap adjuvants to reduced expensive antigen needed... the motivation is profit, not health
You are part of that system
michael0156 1 year ago
@michael0156 Why would I lie? This is why I am losing interest fast in this. I can't argue with someone whose defense is 'You're a liar because corporation makes money.' Why? I am the mother of a delightful headache of a two year old, and all I want is to keep her safe. You wont listen to anything I have to say based on this idea that is I opose you then I must side with 'the man' and it makes a reasonable debate impossible. I have better things to do then be pulled into insanity.
Kikora21 1 year ago
@Kikora21 In 2008 Dr Bernadine Healy told CBS News "Vaccines may cause autism" & "It's inexcusable that the proper research has not been done"
Dr Healy is a former Director of the NIH, Professor of Medicine at Johns Hoplins, Chair of The Cleveland Clinic's Research Institute
Her opinion is relevant & expert
All you offer is Pig pHarma propaganda, no evidence, then claim you have better things to do. Go do them sweetheart. Your ignorant parroting of FDA & drug industry lies is useless here.
michael0156 1 year ago
@michael0156 Years ago the diagnosis of autism was hard to get. A child had to show symptoms before two, get better and regress, stim, and show all the other signs of autism. Today autism has gown to encompass a very vast number of symptoms that are often contradictory. Add that in with media hype and over zealous parents and you have a recipe for disaster. Someone like MrsMee's daughter I do not doubt might be autistic, but many others simply are not.
Kikora21 1 year ago
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Why would you give somebody a LIVE vaccine...you might as well cough TB in their face and call it good. It's called "live attenuated" vaccines. Know what you're talking about before you start calling people out.
MSU4life 1 year ago
Live vaccines cause hundreds of injuries every year. The VICP FDA CDC & Vaccine Court recognize that live virus cause encephaltitis, meningitis, bowel disease. They are also known to cause the very diseases they are designed to protect against. This happens in kids & adults whose immune systems are impaired due to genes, toxic exposures (including vaccine or drug exposures), poor nutrition, or are on immune suppression therapy
Research before you accuse others of being ignorant
michael0156 1 year ago
@michael0156 How many lives do they save every year?
parlezuml 1 year ago
@michael0156 Vaccines are a huge profit for makers like Merck/GSK/Novartis....vaccines only make up 2% of profits
Squalene caused autoimmune syndromes in Gulf War soldiers.....never been proven, and you do know your body produces more squalene then you would ever get from a vax right?
noliesundead 1 year ago
@noliesundead squalene is known to cause autoimmunity in people. For this reason it is banned in USA vaccines. It was "inadvertantly" administered to thousands of Gulf War soldiers who are known to now have autoimmune diseases and antibodies to squalene. You shills will tell any lie, support any hoax, try any deception to protect the drug industry
Study showing nearly 100% correlation of Gulf War Syndrome to squalene antibodies
htt+p://w+ww.ncbi.nlm.nih.+gov/pubmed/10640454
michael0156 1 year ago
@michael0156 squalene is known to cause autoimmunity in people. For this reason it is banned in USA vaccines. It was "inadvertantly" administered to thousands of Gulf War soldiers who are known to now have autoimmune diseases and antibodies to squalene. You shills will tell any lie, support any hoax, try any deception to protect the drug industry....again not proven, and your finger tips make more squalene then the vax's.
correlation does not = causation
noliesundead 1 year ago
@michael0156 Study showing nearly 100% correlation of Gulf War Syndrome to squalene antibodies
Pharmacoepidemiology and Drug Safety.Short-term reactogenicity and gender effect of anthrax vaccine: analysis of a 1967-1972 study and review of the 1955-2005 medical literature....says otherwise, and since the same vax are still used and the rate of autoimmunity has not change kinda ruins your argument. you fucking novice
noliesundead 1 year ago
Vaccines are PURE PROFIT/NO RISK money makers for drug companies. CDC guarantees contracts for many vax. Since 1986 The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (NCVIA) shields vaccine makers from damage lawsuits, even negligence
The NCVIA, far from protecting kids, forces them to sue the HHS secretary for compensation - only in DC - fighting The Department of Justice. Plaintiff lawyer fees are determined by judges. Awards are paid from a vax surcharge paid by "we the people", not vaccine makers
michael0156 1 year ago
@michael0156 Vaccines are PURE PROFIT/NO RISK money makers for drug companies. CDC guarantees contracts for many vax. Since 1986 The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (NCVIA) shields vaccine makers from damage lawsuits...again 2% of profit. and you need to look up the CURRENT laws you're living in the past(to make a point)
noliesundead 1 year ago
noliesundead continues to make unsubstantiated claims that vaccines are only 2% of profits
He apparently compares vax profits overall to ALL drug profits. When even large companies make 12-15 vaccines (like Merck, Glaxo, Novartis) they become a main revenue stream. Add no insurance, lawyers or compensation awards, that tremendously increases profits
If vax are found to cause regressive autism & vax makers are held accountable it will cost 100s of billions
Why does nolies do nothing but lie?
michael0156 1 year ago
@michael0156 He apparently compares vax profits overall to ALL drug profits. well yes, since none of those company's you name only survive on vax sales. again only 2% of there total profit, of course it looks like super big number if you cut out the rest of there income like you're trying to do, and if you have to be decepctive to make your point, then its a weak argument.
if you want to see how much they make from what you can, since their publicly traded companies
noliesundead 1 year ago
@michael0156 Add no insurance, lawyers or compensation awards, that tremendously increases profits
If vax are found to cause regressive autism & vax makers are held accountable it will cost 100s of billions
..AGAIN use the CURRENT LAWS, using the older ones is 1) deceptive 2) shows you care more about your argument then the truth. Why does nolies do nothing but lie?......how again then i lie? i cite source and you have not refuted ONE of them? attack the argument not me
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michael0156 1 year ago
@michael0156 why you leave out the fact no squalene was used in the vax's during the gulf war? and that study you give was the only one to find Persian Gulf War Syndrome patients are significantly more likely to have antibodies to squalene (95 percent) than asymptomatic Gulf War veterans, but goes on to say
noliesundead 1 year ago
@michael0156 "It is important to note that our laboratory-based investigations do not establish that squalene was added as adjuvant to any vaccine used in military or other personnel who served in the Persian Gulf War era."
noliesundead 1 year ago
@michael0156 US Institute of Medicine stated that "The committee does not regard this study as providing evidence that the investigators have successfully measured antibodies to squalene", since the authors did not perform the normal scientific controls needed show that their test was specific to anti-squalene antibodies.
The vaccines were also tested for squalene, and none was detected with standard methods-J Pharm Biomed Anal 29 (1-2): 183–93....so how does it fell to get the smackdown?
noliesundead 1 year ago
nolies shows he is full of lies
1. An anecdotal statement from the IOM does not contradict the results of the study detecting anti-squalene antibodies in veterans & civilians with Gulf War Syndrome. That the IOM would ignore the results w/o contradicting evidence shows blatant drug industry bias
2. The study nolies quotes about squalene free vax tested anthrax vax from 1997 - completely unrelated to Gulf War Syndrome which occurred 1990-1991 when soldiers/civilians were injected with squalene
michael0156 1 year ago
@michael0156 1An anecdotal statement from the IOM does not contradict the results of the study detecting anti-squalene antibodies in veterans & civilians with Gulf War Syndrome....again the study was not designed to find that, and when the vax's were tested no squalene was found. and i pointed to studies that contradict it,and the study you cite lacks proper controls
2, again squalene was not found in the vax's of that time.(J Pharm Biomed Anal 29 (1-2): 183–93)
noliesundead 1 year ago
Why do you lie? People are living longer healthier lives because we have better sanitation, nutrition & hygiene, not because of vaccines
The USA child & infant population is the most highly vaccinated in the world, yet we also have the highest infant/child mortality rates of any industrialized nation
Diseases once rare in kids are commonplace like cancer, Type II diabetes, autism, ADHD, MS, allergies (which are immune problems)
Vaccine/toxin overload correlates to rising disease/death in kids
michael0156 1 year ago 2
@michael0156 I am not lying, you're just a moron. ^^ Seriously, to begin with since this is about McCarthy she is not qualified to speak on the subjects she does, and if you looked up her past actions you would see that. She doesn't think andresearch... She KNOWS. She KNEW her son was a crystal child and said all natural an all natural life was the right way to raise psychic magic children. When that didn't give her the attention she wanted he became autistic and guess what is saving him?
Kikora21 1 year ago
@Kikora21 My niece was born a perfectly healthy baby girl.She would laugh and smile and if you called her name she would turn her head and look at right at you.At nine months old she was taken to the doctors to recieve her vaccinations.She slept for a full day after coming home from the doctors which my sis thought was very strange...and then we noticed she was a little different...no longer responsive to our calls...and not learning at the same rate she was...
mrsmee777 1 year ago
@mrsmee777 today she is twelve years old and cannot even say her own name...please hope this doesnt happen to anyone in your own family bc then you will understand why we need people like Jenny to spread the word for help for children like my niece
mrsmee777 1 year ago
@mrsmee777 What Jenny is doing is killing children. There is no research supporting anything a playboy model is spouting off, but people rush behind it because they think they know more than hundreds of scientists worldwide. Her stance of confusing correlation and causation has the world in an uproar, and uneducated parents are becoming paranoid, which is leading to an overdiagnosis of autism, which further supports her cause. She is supporting her media addiction though you.
Kikora21 1 year ago
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@Kikora21 I'm still waiting for you to stand behind the 2 best pieces of evidence you have that vaccines are not correlated to autism. Only 2, List authors, conflicts sponsors key points. I will expose the studies as wrong irrelevant fraudulent or too conflicted to be believed
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You claim hundreds of studies or scientists back your lies, then use 2 to make your point
michael0156 1 year ago
@mrsmee777 Think about the people supporting this movement. Mothers with no medical training, doctors who broke the law and medical ethics to get their results, a playboy model... VS entire countries worth of scientists testing vaccines and making sure they are safe.
ALSO, look again at the above. The ones who support this vaccines propaganda are the ones profiting from it!
Kikora21 1 year ago
@mrsmee777 In the end what this theory amounts to is an old wives tale. Because someone made an observation and it has ballooned out of control.
All that aside, even if vaccines did cause autism ((They don't)) I'd rather have an autistic child than a dead one. We vaccinate against fatal diseases, and as they come back children are dying. Countries where these diseases are still common would gladly trade autism for a corpse, but developed countries have forgotten how bad it is.
Kikora21 1 year ago
@Kikora21 More drug industry fear mongering & denialist ramblings
You are clearly attempting to protect Pig pHarma profits or salve your own guilty conscience. It doesn't matter to me which, your actions support harming more & more children
Vaccine for-profit toxins need to be eliminated
Kids injured by live virus/bacteria in vaccines need to be identified BEFORE they are injected
Your agenda of fear is obvious, your avoidance of facts helps to injure and kill children every day
michael0156 1 year ago
@michael0156 Fear mongering? Diseases we vaccinate against kill every day and there is very little medical science can do to save a child when infected with a deadly virus. That's a fact. You can disinfect your house and try to keep children safe, but outbreaks would happen is herd immunity fails, and children would die, there's another. Vaccine death is extremely rare, and despite millions spent on vaccine research no link has been found between it and autism.
Kikora21 1 year ago
@Kikora21
2 pieces of evidence that vaccines are not related to autism. I'm still waiting. List lead authors, conflicts, sponsors key points
You keep referring to evidence, post the 2 best you can find
Everything you say is straight out of the Pig pHarma playbook. You have no evidence vaccines are safe for all kids. Vacines are known to damage children every day. We disagree on the amount of harm done
1990-2009 Vaccines & their for-profit toxins rose 300%, autism rose 3300%
michael0156 1 year ago
@michael0156 I already said I am not interested enough to do your homework. I used to be really big into this debate, but learned conspiracy theorists can't be reasoned with. Instead of it being the research independantly it becomes 'business is bad, and corporation is out to get you'. It happens, but the extent people drive at makes it impossible to accept even basic truths, and it is causing bloodshed. All the knowledge I've gathered does no good against a closed mind. I'm just a 'liar' to you
Kikora21 1 year ago
@Kikora21 now runs away from the argument by saying he won't produce any evidence because I won't believe it...lol
I've read all the major studies or the abstracts. I have read both pros & cons of these studies like Paul Offit & Edward Yazbak. The evidence is out there for everyone to see if you are creative enough to find it or read my posts
Kikora knows the truth, he knows he is lying to protect Pig pHarma profits, that is why he refuses to post any evidence...
He knows it is all fraudulent
michael0156 1 year ago
@michael0156 The fact of the matter is that there is material on both the vaccines and all the ingredients. It's out there, I read it two years ago when Rose was going to be vaccinated. The bacteria live virus, the aluminum, the other chemicals people like McCarthy talk about. I read on the amount dosage, the way it is applied, why it is in there. Went in with an open mind because I have nothing to gain either way but Rose's health, and after a helluvalot of reading came to this comclusion.
Kikora21 1 year ago
@Kikora21 The Vaccine Court has records of 2400 vaccine damaged kids resulting in the payment of $2 billion. 13,000 other plaintiffs were denied. This smll # of families are the ones that could afford to go to Washington DC to sue. If you want to appeal you still have to go to DC
The majority of kids will have no long lasting effects from vaccination, but many will. More kids every year are damaged by for-profit toxins & live vaccines. We should find those kids BEFORE they are injected
michael0156 1 year ago
@michael0156 That said, I can't say a damn thing to change your mind, and I know that. I could cite research on Ethyl-Mercury done by private universities. I could direct you to several other possible causes like over diagnosis, diet changes, and different diseases today that could contribute to autism rates. Like Celiac's disease and the like. But as long as I am the faceless liar on youtube I can't get through your thick skull.
Kikora21 1 year ago
@Kikora21 Again you offer no evidence. You make unsupported comments about diet, over diagnosis & diseases causing autism
These comments are ALL WRONG, the FDA/CDC know they are wrong, no one has any evidence to support them, but you go through the trouble to repeat them, AGAIN, without a shred of evidence to back you up
michael0156 1 year ago
@michael0156 I did not comment to do your homework, and I wont be pushed into doing it. Period. There has never been any scientific evidense supporting the vaccine autism myth, your evidense is basically a scientist here or there saying 'Well I suppose it could', and you take it as absolute fact.
I said not once, but several times through this that I will not be sucked into your insanity.This conspiracy theory 'Us against them' attitude is impossible to reason with.
Kikora21 1 year ago
@Kikora21 Again you offer no evidence and blame me for you not offering it. Of course that is without logic or reasoning. Your comments offer nothing to debate. You ignore me and you ignore what the FDA and CDC have to say on the matter. You ignore Dr Bernadine Healy, Dr Hilary Coon and Dr Edward yazbak... I guess we're all ont he same conspiracy train you have made up?
If you don't want to offer evidence then stop your baseless ignorant comments
michael0156 1 year ago
@michael0156 I will just say , and you can take it and shove it. Over diagnosis happens, especially when media hype has every mother in the country looking for the tiniest little difference in their child that could point to autism. The diagnosis for autism has grown broader over time, so of course more children are diagnosed. It's not a startling trend, it's common sense. Autism used to be a very hard diagnosis to get. It's not that way anymore.
Kikora21 1 year ago
@Kikora21 you keep insisting autism's rise is overdiagnosis but you ignore that the CDC & FDA disagree with you... along with the majority of the people in the world with an opinion
The diagnostic criteria changed slightly in 1994 with the publication by the American Psychiatric Association's DSM-IV. All forms of autism are on the rise, including regressive autism. Childhood disintegrative disorder is rising as well
Are you familiar with any of this? If not stop your commenting
michael0156 1 year ago
@michael0156 And for Celiac's disease, which I mentioned before. Celiac's often mimics the symptoms of autism, especially in those who show symptoms young. The treatment for Celiac's happens to be a wheat-free gluten-free diet, simular to the one McCarthy claimed "Cured" her "Autistic" son. This diet has had varying results with other "Autistic" children, resembling the recovery they would make from treatment of Celiac's disease.
Again, common sense.
Kikora21 1 year ago
@Kikora21 What is your purpose? You spout nothing but Pig pHarma propaganda, outright lie, and someitmes just make things up... To what end do you find yourself going?
I have never met anyone spouting so much nonsense that has no basis in fact
michael0156 1 year ago
@Kikora21 In "diseases that kill" compromised immunity, not the disease, is the determining factor
Vaccines can't help someone with a compromised immune system. Despite being vaccinated some still get ill
Kid's & adult's immune systems can be compromised by toxic exposure, poor nutrition, genes. Vaccine toxins can cause adult autoimmunity, like squalene in Gulf War Syndrome . Drug industries profit from toxins that screw up our immunity, like Enbrel, Remicade, Singulair & dozens more
michael0156 1 year ago
@michael0156 Vaccines help protect as long as a certain percentage of the population is vaccinated. It works in herd immunity more than individual immunity. If people would vaccinate there wouldn't be the same room for children with compromised immune systems to get ill as there is now that people aren't vaccinating. Think of it as a wall of defense in a community, and antivaxers are blowing holes in it because it 'Was made by the man!!!!!'
Kikora21 1 year ago
@Kikora21 You are spouting the same nonsense Pig pHarma wants you to believe. In 1988 no one in the USA could sue a vaccine maker. A law was passed to make the Federal Government the defendant in all vaccine lawsuits. When that happened vaccine makers bribed regulatory officials and stacked Vaccine Boards with pro-industry people. Since 1990 the vaccine schedule increased 300%. Autism rose 3300%
The FDA refuses to clinically study this obvious correlation.
michael0156 1 year ago
@Kikora21 well you have an opinion and viewpoint like every other soul on this planet ...
mrsmee777 1 year ago
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@michael0156 Next, I am still not lying. Vaccines play a big role in the health of children today. People stop vaccinating, and there is an outbreak and children die, that is a fact. What you are saying is simply due to a change in perspective and attitude to disease. What is today autism was 'demonic possession' or 'eccentric', Allergies was just 'hayfever' or 'A bit of sneezing'. Blame society today for needing to diagnose everything, not vaccines for happening to exist.
Kikora21 1 year ago
Ugg-ugg..pretty girl say it...must be true...must be true. More beer...pretty girl say...boobies! boobies! Must be true! No vaccinate kids...take them to WWE instead...teach them well to jump off furniture...ugg-ugg. Pretty girl. Shiny dress...
jamesharrel 1 year ago
Gosh, Jenny needs to die as soon as possible. Evan dosen't deserve all this FAME from this whore's mouth. >:(
jescast99 1 year ago
Jenny is a total dumb ass
sillerymcgreery 1 year ago
I think Jenny McCarthy is autistic.
macwild1234 1 year ago
what if i like being autistic?
jewel1975 1 year ago
Yes let's cure autism! Such a great idea! And we must also cure gays of their sexuality, muslims of their religion and blacks of their skin color!
^ Sarcastic BTW.
Ghozteit 2 years ago
@Ghozteit Well if it severe enough it is something you would want to cure. Aren't some kids with autism quite negatively affected by it? I.E. Injuring themselves, excessive crying, extreme difficulty with communication... It can be pretty horrific for the parents as well.
Nighthawk8787 1 year ago
Generation Rescue is an affront to autists, like my son, if only by citing the Wakefield study.
MyInnerRandi 2 years ago 3
Jenny McCarthy speaks about the autism subject like she is someone on crack, I am an autistic person myself and I know Jenny is exaggerating things and making herself out to be the trained professional that she's not.
RPM1978 2 years ago 3
She's after publicity. She said that her son was diagnosed in only 5 minutes. In reality, it takes months to diagnose. It took ten years for me to be officially diagnosed. She deserves a good slap in mouth.
aspie101 2 years ago
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Jenny is a "Hands on Mom". She has done lots of homework and taking charge of the situation. Shes not giving up her responsibility to some "professional" or the mostly corrupt medical industry.
radicals88 2 years ago
Is that bodypaint?.....anyways...uhhhmm.....good cause.
Za7a7aZ 2 years ago
its Tanya!!! from red alert 3!!! LOL
JohnDXCenaHas2Words 2 years ago
She's Skinny.
drtgreatwhites 2 years ago
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u wanna end autism?
spank the little antisocial fuck till he gets in line and learns there are socially accepted ways to interact with others on this planet
iluvhotblondes 2 years ago
is that what your parents did
joeylukeshannon 2 years ago
lol maybe your parents should have taken your advice.
iamnotapie 2 years ago
you are a waste of dna
cannabischarlie 2 years ago
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When you're dead, which I hope will be soon, you should donate your brain to science so they can figure out what the fuck is wrong with it.
CrystalSoulslayer 2 years ago
I think she needs to be replaced. After all, she presents her points in a selfish manner. Then again, she is a brat.
"I want to be these women's voices. When I was 20, I had a feeling I'd be an activist, but I always thought, 'Please, God, don't let it be breast cancer. Now I can't tell you how much I wish it was breast cancer."
aspie101 2 years ago
austism isnt as serious as people think it is just ignore that you have it trust me it helps
pocky94 2 years ago
Depends on how serious it is though. There is a spectrum. I think people with Asperger's can function.
sharinganker 2 years ago
I love her forever!
CraigBekking 2 years ago
WWE... where else can you find such a massive gathering of overweight 30 year old virgins who live in their moms basements and have no jobs and poor social skills
antiautism 2 years ago
e3?
dingdongmalice 2 years ago
Her kid never had autism, he is just a spoiled brat who wouldn't speak.
She is cashing in on her brat's behavior problem and that is insulting to anyone with a sense of morality.
bubba5000 2 years ago
Fuck you creep. Did you here that from Micahel Savage who goded a 14 year old victim rape go fuck off and die you creep.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
Who's Micahel Savage?
You should buy McCarthy's book, she needs the money to keep spreading her lies.
bubba5000 2 years ago
It is not lies you nazi shithead. These are scientific facts and diciks like you are just assholes wanting attention. Go and pock on tough nazis not people with illneses you cunt.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
It is anecdotal information in her book. Which is, contrary to what Ms McCarthy said, is NOT the same as scientific information.
novella101 2 years ago
HOW DO YOU KNOW?
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
As science based information must be unbiased and without emotion, and parents (anecdotal) information about their children are never without bias and emotion.
novella101 2 years ago
Well OK then sorry i confused you with the michael savage type scum who just insult people with autism.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
Who is MIchael Savage by the way?
Also I would like to make it clear I do not have anything against people with autism nor do I look down on them.
All I am saying is that McCarthy is misinforming people and endangering lives of many with her anti-vaccination movement propaganda.
novella101 2 years ago
He is an evil right wing dj who spends his time saying people with this illness should be beaten asa "cure". There are nuts who claim this is just some made up illness. I see that is not your point.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
are u steve ?
helliott123 2 years ago
Not at all. :)
novella101 2 years ago
Are you claiming autism does not exist or are you saying something more complicated. What is your point?
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
I'm saying that HER son never had autism, he is just a spoiled brat who wouldn't speak.
Now she has decided to cash in.
bubba5000 2 years ago
No I do not accept that. That is just rude you have no idea who she is and to call people brats for not talking is mad.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
Her son almost died! You don't know what the hell you're talking about, Her son was diagnosed by a physician. Read her books and then get back to me.
crv36 2 years ago
I've read them and they are the written version of her stupidity and they are always told in a selfish manner. Then again, what else do you expect from someone like Jenny McCarthy? Her son was diagnosed in only 5 minutes. In reality, it takes months of testing to make an official diagnosis.
aspie101 2 years ago 2
Why would I want to read a book by a money grubbing liar?
bubba5000 2 years ago 3
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Well OK then sorry i confused you with the michael savage type scum who just insult people with autism.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
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The more I see of this empty headed, EX- PLAYBOY MODEL the more angry I become! My son is autistic and he's a happy little boy who wakes up every morning with a spring in his step, enthusiastic about the day ahead. I am autistic and *shock horror* I'm managing a university education as well as bringing up 2 sons. I guess I don't fit into her warped idea of perfection. Then again now she's an EX- PLAYBOY MODEL she needs to make some money from a different set of gullible twits.... PARENTS.
Einalem1981 2 years ago
@Einalem1981 The general public agrees with you. She is getting less and less media attention due to her profound stupidity. She doesn't even know if autistic adults exist, that shows just how indiscribably stupid that she is.
aspie101 1 year ago
@Einalem1981
her attitude aside, what I find more disturbing is that she claims that MMR vaccines give people autism despite not a single peer-reviewed and legitimate study demonstrating this to be the case. Her ignorance and stupidity infuriates me.
psycropticunt 1 year ago
@Einalem1981 You & your son are not regressively autistic or have childhood disintegrative disorder. From your limited descriptions you both appear to have Asperger's Syndrome, which is not autism
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This reveals another problem with your story. Anyone with Asperger's KNOWS it is not autism
Then how does one explain your statement that you have autism? You are lying
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It only remains to fathom how deep your lies go
StopGMO 1 year ago 2
Don't freaking make fun of people with autism
bradyhardy 2 years ago
jenny is fucking autistic......
DegenerateSmoker 2 years ago
Y do the let such a idiot speak for such a good cause
bjvogan 2 years ago
Too much attention is payed to people like McCarthy.
aspie101 2 years ago 4
LOL.......including Jenny- she is just more functional XD
cdumeohyeah 2 years ago
If she were autistic, she would have a more interesting story to tell. She would have more understanding and experience. She would know just about everything she could learn about on her one, specific area. In other words, If she were autistic, she would understand a lot more about autism, and she would not be an idiot curebie.
apostolicaspie 2 years ago
WOW- that was really random of her. Why the fuck did she choose to say what she said at WWE??!!!!??!??!!? lol
cdumeohyeah 2 years ago
As someone with Aspergers, I'm kinda offended how they treat autism as a problem.
Ok, it has caused me some trouble in the past year, but I blame that on people being ignorant misguided assholes more than me being socially awkward.
Her whole campaign thing reminds me of that mutant cure in X-Men 3. (also an awful film imo)
SiBadGui 3 years ago
Autism is only a problem if the child is unhealthy and needs help to be comfortable and function. Your not bad. As parents we just dont want to see our kids suffer in pain thats all.
KimberlyMahurin 2 years ago
@SiBadGui Autism can very much be problematic.
Nighthawk8787 1 year ago
Ahaha maybe it isn't the best place to talk about autism at a wrestling match, in terms of relating to the audience
pma999 3 years ago
Autism is very fast growing my cousin have it and realy hard to take care of him some times i hope people donate to find cure for this illness and don't make fun of it jenny is doing a great job with the huge fan base of the WWE
b1elal 3 years ago 2
They're cheering for her body more than her views. They're only their to watch people beat each other senseless.
aspie101 3 years ago
There is no *cure* or *recovery* from Autism.
Just like all other children develop as time goes by, so do children on the spectrum.
dancefan62 3 years ago
Silly cow!
Wheres michelle mcdroll when you need her?
She'd sort out this idiot up on stage!
indywordfx 3 years ago
SHE IS NOT ANTI VACCINE ...she just wants tests done to see if children are able to handle the freakin 60 or so vaccines given to them in such a short amount of time. And she wants to cut that number down. She understands that vaccines are very important and isn't saying don't get your child vaccinated. Do your research before speaking.
itsalwayssunnyinnj 3 years ago
Cunt. There is absolutely no scientific proof of a link between vaccines and autism. Quit giving her a platform for her ridiculous views.
tattypatty 3 years ago 2
Interesting. She makes it sound like autism is a bad thing. If I had the option to be non-autistic for the rest of my life, I wouldn't do it. I think there are a lot of good things that come with autism. I may not be able to make eye contact with anyone, but I have a very unique way of thinking and I love my life.
AutisticWhoLives4God 3 years ago