I said if they like tribal fusion, simply call it what it is.
It's like calling break dancing ballet cuz the guy goes on his toes occassionaly. then these kids think cuz someone called it one thing that that's what it is.
I like the Egyptian cabaret traditional belly dancing as well.
*sigh* this mtv generation [lol i'm all of 29 and talking like i'm old]
The problem lies with the fact that most dancers and some teachers are misinformed or uninformed about the different forms, which are considered 'traditional', which are considered 'fusion', which are considered 'folkloric'. All these forms could be put under an umbrella of "Bellydancing". Then confusion ensues. I've been fortunate enough to have teachers who educated themselves, either in the middle east or with a variety of middle eastern teachers and gave us the origins of these dances. :)
Tribal Fusion is bellydance. Bellydance is a vast word that discribes many different types and genres of bellydance... until you start asking/talking to people about "what type of bellydance they perform" it is ALL bellydance. Fusion dancers perform & teach the same movements as a Cabaret/Egyptian dancer, they just have different technique. Just because Tribal Bellydance was invented later does not discredit the fact that it is bellydance. People prob. thought the same about Cabaret in the 50's
En english sil vous plait...The most famous belly dancer is not a size 14. The most famous belly dancer I know of is Rachel Brice and when you meet her in person she is even more thin than she looks on camera. I bet she is about a 0. However I do agree that any shape and size can belly dance. I belly dance and I'm a bigger girl.
lol just drop it, anyone can bellydance if they really want to, im size 14 and i like to see them dance cus they inspire me to bellydance, and i dont care if they are thin or size 14 and above, it doesnt matter, the thing is they are profesional beautiful dancers, specially rachel brice, and its not becouse she thin is because she dances smoothly...dont be envious cus they r thin!!!
the most famous belly dancer right now is a size 14 ...
these women are size 2 or 4 dress.
they are sticks.
even the most talented american belly dancer right now is a size 12. it just looks better on a voluptuous woman. when a size 12-14 -16 shakes her hips it's way more alluring and has more movement. a size 2 moving her hips has very little movement.
who is the dancer you say is a size 14? and is she on youtube?
and i do agree that these girls are very slender, but the whole point of belly dance is that its something women of ANY size or shape can do, it really does not matter if they are size 2 or size 22 (or larger goddess sizes)
it actually looks better on slim women bcz you can see it's not just fat jiggling, you can see the full range of muscle control... which, in a way, makes them more talented.
How's that feel? Don't call someone a stick when you look like a log.
I'm saying we don't need size 0 in bellydancing too, they took over modeling, they took over commercials, they took over the beauty industry, even actresses have to be size 0 now.
read my lips carefully this time "belly dancing was always better on a voluptuous woman and intended to be on a voluptuous woman" when a voluptuous woman throws her hips you see it
I said that in order to show anyone that is ignorant enough to put down one body type simply bcz they prefer another body type how it is a matter of opinion... and obviously your opinion is riddled with insecurity if you're mad about thin women "taking over".
Maybe the fact that they dance day in and day out, multiple time a day might have something to do with it? I'm willing to be if you exerzied for hours on end every day you would be fit too. Kate Moss is a size 0, these girls are probubly 4 and 6.
pour repondre au commentaire en dessous du mien il n'est pas forcement obligé d'etre arabe pour pratiquer cette danse la preuve je n'est jamais vu d'aussi bonnes danseuses de ma vie cette troupe est execptionnelle nous fait rever c'est de la danse et pas du racisme envers les hommes surtout quand on sais que les hommes arabes comme le dit le commentaire si dessous ne tolere pas la danse du ventre et les costumes dénudé , ceux qui critique sont tous simplement jalous ou jalouse
c'est bizarre de voir que des femmes qui deteste des hommes d'origines arabes (particulierement les françaises)sois attirées par des danses de nos origines ,ce qui laisse a prouvés qu'on est dans un monde de merde entourés de fachos et d'hypocrite .
it's strange to see that girls who hates people from arab ethnicies (french particulary)are interest in this kind of dance that shows that we are in a fucking world of fachists and hypocryts
2.&ma copine,elle francaise, partout,ils nous attendaient dans la rue en nous aggressant,pour ki ns ns prenons de les refuser.Y a des 1000 d histoires comme ca, une violence sexuelle quotidienne de la part de jeunes hommes arabes.J ai quitte paris pour ca.Faudra reflechir, et voir le comportement de ses gens!Une fascination de la danse et de la culture ne fait k prouver que ces francaises sont pas "fachos", mais attirées par la culture en tant k etant repulsées par les sexistes et aggresseurs
1.comme ancienne "Parisienne", et comme fille à héritage arabe, je te dis qu une haîne à travers les hommes arabes en France ce dérive fortement du comportement quotidien de ce groupe social, des jeunes hommes. On se fait agresser, on es suivi partout par des mecs, meme si on dit qu on veut etre seule, il faut qu on ait peur si on dit son avis genre laisse moi tranquille, je suis pas interessee. Une fois mon boulanger arabe m a aidé en disant à 2 mecs suivant moi
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I am mad at Rachel Brice she said she will be here in Costa Rica But now she did cancel I think she is piece of shit belly dancer, I am waiting for Ansuya I think It will be fun.
ruttaforever, you are a FUCKING IDIOT!!! So what if she cancels, I'm sure she has good reasons, like illness, personal reasons. But then again, a fuckin nimrod like you doesn't seem to have the mental capacity to figure/understand that. Oh well.
How stupid *are* you? Everyone is allowed to cancel something they can't do, if she cancels something she has very good reason for it. Rachel is an incredibly dedicated dancer and nothing but the best reasons can keep her from doing something she's signed up to.
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Belly dance is only a business for Rachel Brice she just like to be in rich country where people can pay her a lot, Belly dance just only for Europe and USA.
That's just stupid, of course Rachel isn't in it for the money! There are much better paying jobs than being a bellydancer, even a bellydance superstar - she does what she does because she loves it. Just because you obviously don't understand how a real human being works on the inside, doesn't mean you can think everyone is just a money-grabbing idiot. With views like that, you shouldn't be doing something as spiritual as bellydance anyway.
Please tell me that's not true!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am booked to go there at the end of August. Rachel was the one to be the instructor. I hope she's okay though. Nevertheless, I'd be sad... :(
Para mim é pouco oriental muito americano demais é sempre uma ilusão sobre a cultura ariental. como re-interpretação norte americana o trablho é ótimo mas como representação da cultura oriental não diz nada. Tânia
LOVE IT. But being in french, it was just like trying to watch TV when I was on work experience in Lille....thank god there wasn't anything too difficult...
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You also got to love how at 1:47 they are showing the tribal girls dancing in rewind. It looks so awsome :)
jazzypony 2 years ago
My French is rather rusty. Any one have the time and/or patients to type up a translation?
jazzypony 2 years ago
i would love 2 be in a belly dacing troop !
ajw1991 2 years ago
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first of all tribal fusion isn't even belly dancing. yeah i looked it up since all you haters on me. tribal fusion started in friggin 1996 WTF.
this has zero to do with belly dancing.
and rachel brice isn't a belly dancer she's a tribal fusion artist.
if you like that, more power to you. please don't call it something it ain't. be proud of your love of tribal fusion.
i'll stick to the dark ages and belly dancing.
shakaama 2 years ago
You are correct, Tribal fusion began in the United States. People in the middle east would not recognize it as traditional belly dance.
It is different, and done well, enjoyable to watch.
I tend towards Egyptian cabaret style of the 1940's and 1950's. There are some wonderful movie clips on Youtube here somewhere!
pureoaknut 2 years ago 3
Amen. Finally someone with some intelligence.
I said if they like tribal fusion, simply call it what it is.
It's like calling break dancing ballet cuz the guy goes on his toes occassionaly. then these kids think cuz someone called it one thing that that's what it is.
I like the Egyptian cabaret traditional belly dancing as well.
*sigh* this mtv generation [lol i'm all of 29 and talking like i'm old]
shakaama 2 years ago 5
The problem lies with the fact that most dancers and some teachers are misinformed or uninformed about the different forms, which are considered 'traditional', which are considered 'fusion', which are considered 'folkloric'. All these forms could be put under an umbrella of "Bellydancing". Then confusion ensues. I've been fortunate enough to have teachers who educated themselves, either in the middle east or with a variety of middle eastern teachers and gave us the origins of these dances. :)
pureoaknut 2 years ago 6
Tribal Fusion is bellydance. Bellydance is a vast word that discribes many different types and genres of bellydance... until you start asking/talking to people about "what type of bellydance they perform" it is ALL bellydance. Fusion dancers perform & teach the same movements as a Cabaret/Egyptian dancer, they just have different technique. Just because Tribal Bellydance was invented later does not discredit the fact that it is bellydance. People prob. thought the same about Cabaret in the 50's
DimentiaMorte 2 years ago 7
I may not know much about art, but I know what I like. ;)
hypnodance 2 years ago
yay bellydance here i go!!! going for tribal fusion too.... yay mee!!!
love rachel and sharon!! my inspiration to bellydance, and im still 14 by the way!!
shermieliz 2 years ago
wow tat cool ight there
hotbunnyboo136 3 years ago
En english sil vous plait...The most famous belly dancer is not a size 14. The most famous belly dancer I know of is Rachel Brice and when you meet her in person she is even more thin than she looks on camera. I bet she is about a 0. However I do agree that any shape and size can belly dance. I belly dance and I'm a bigger girl.
silvertonguedbard 3 years ago
i love tribal, but sometimes i want to let go, and shake the hips more than most tribal moves allow.
marqujud 3 years ago 3
la envidia nunca es buena,
mata el alma y la envenena!!!
shermieliz 3 years ago
lol just drop it, anyone can bellydance if they really want to, im size 14 and i like to see them dance cus they inspire me to bellydance, and i dont care if they are thin or size 14 and above, it doesnt matter, the thing is they are profesional beautiful dancers, specially rachel brice, and its not becouse she thin is because she dances smoothly...dont be envious cus they r thin!!!
shermieliz 3 years ago 2
and of course, translate this dance to america and give it to stick figure women :(
the whole point of belly dancing was a sensual plump woman, very curvacious. there is nothing sensual about a size 0 woman.
and they wonder why these girls are so messed up in the head these days.
shakaama 3 years ago
these women are not sticks!
theyr beautiful curvy girls and you sayin that thin women should not belly dance is as bad as others saying larger women cant!
bellydansoh 3 years ago 2
the most famous belly dancer right now is a size 14 ...
these women are size 2 or 4 dress.
they are sticks.
even the most talented american belly dancer right now is a size 12. it just looks better on a voluptuous woman. when a size 12-14 -16 shakes her hips it's way more alluring and has more movement. a size 2 moving her hips has very little movement.
shakaama 3 years ago
who is the dancer you say is a size 14? and is she on youtube?
and i do agree that these girls are very slender, but the whole point of belly dance is that its something women of ANY size or shape can do, it really does not matter if they are size 2 or size 22 (or larger goddess sizes)
Parrotstone 3 years ago
it actually looks better on slim women bcz you can see it's not just fat jiggling, you can see the full range of muscle control... which, in a way, makes them more talented.
How's that feel? Don't call someone a stick when you look like a log.
SOFIAgandako 2 years ago
wow you go from size 0 to jiggling fat?
you just dismissed all the women in between.
I never said a fat hepher on stage is beautiful.
I'm saying we don't need size 0 in bellydancing too, they took over modeling, they took over commercials, they took over the beauty industry, even actresses have to be size 0 now.
read my lips carefully this time "belly dancing was always better on a voluptuous woman and intended to be on a voluptuous woman" when a voluptuous woman throws her hips you see it
shakaama 2 years ago
I did not dismiss all women in between.
I said that in order to show anyone that is ignorant enough to put down one body type simply bcz they prefer another body type how it is a matter of opinion... and obviously your opinion is riddled with insecurity if you're mad about thin women "taking over".
SOFIAgandako 2 years ago
Maybe the fact that they dance day in and day out, multiple time a day might have something to do with it? I'm willing to be if you exerzied for hours on end every day you would be fit too. Kate Moss is a size 0, these girls are probubly 4 and 6.
jazzypony 3 years ago
its called french
mysteriouslycrazy 3 years ago 4
It makes me sad that they cut off Rachel Brice at the end, LOL. I like her alot.
KOleH 3 years ago 4
who is the name of the first song?
angelique256 3 years ago
Se llama ajaja de Ramses
enigmaticfreya10 3 years ago
whats that song called , played near the end with the belly dance in red and a man speaking over her ? x
BellyDancerXx 3 years ago
I think ansuya is the best won, but Rachel Brice dances good too
lebnaniapride 4 years ago
I love when Rachel Brice dance because she is very talented, but I admire all the troop, they are my dream and I want to be just like they
(Sorry but I'm French so I don't speak very well)
Amalae 4 years ago 4
pour repondre au commentaire en dessous du mien il n'est pas forcement obligé d'etre arabe pour pratiquer cette danse la preuve je n'est jamais vu d'aussi bonnes danseuses de ma vie cette troupe est execptionnelle nous fait rever c'est de la danse et pas du racisme envers les hommes surtout quand on sais que les hommes arabes comme le dit le commentaire si dessous ne tolere pas la danse du ventre et les costumes dénudé , ceux qui critique sont tous simplement jalous ou jalouse
bahyia 4 years ago
c'est bizarre de voir que des femmes qui deteste des hommes d'origines arabes (particulierement les françaises)sois attirées par des danses de nos origines ,ce qui laisse a prouvés qu'on est dans un monde de merde entourés de fachos et d'hypocrite .
it's strange to see that girls who hates people from arab ethnicies (french particulary)are interest in this kind of dance that shows that we are in a fucking world of fachists and hypocryts
kamelisurs 4 years ago
2.&ma copine,elle francaise, partout,ils nous attendaient dans la rue en nous aggressant,pour ki ns ns prenons de les refuser.Y a des 1000 d histoires comme ca, une violence sexuelle quotidienne de la part de jeunes hommes arabes.J ai quitte paris pour ca.Faudra reflechir, et voir le comportement de ses gens!Une fascination de la danse et de la culture ne fait k prouver que ces francaises sont pas "fachos", mais attirées par la culture en tant k etant repulsées par les sexistes et aggresseurs
dinavienna 4 years ago
1.comme ancienne "Parisienne", et comme fille à héritage arabe, je te dis qu une haîne à travers les hommes arabes en France ce dérive fortement du comportement quotidien de ce groupe social, des jeunes hommes. On se fait agresser, on es suivi partout par des mecs, meme si on dit qu on veut etre seule, il faut qu on ait peur si on dit son avis genre laisse moi tranquille, je suis pas interessee. Une fois mon boulanger arabe m a aidé en disant à 2 mecs suivant moi
dinavienna 4 years ago
great video! i love these girls
xkawaiix07 4 years ago
wow i wish i can learn that
urmzi12 4 years ago
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I am mad at Rachel Brice she said she will be here in Costa Rica But now she did cancel I think she is piece of shit belly dancer, I am waiting for Ansuya I think It will be fun.
rutitaforever84 4 years ago
ruttaforever, you are a FUCKING IDIOT!!! So what if she cancels, I'm sure she has good reasons, like illness, personal reasons. But then again, a fuckin nimrod like you doesn't seem to have the mental capacity to figure/understand that. Oh well.
absstar 4 years ago 2
How stupid *are* you? Everyone is allowed to cancel something they can't do, if she cancels something she has very good reason for it. Rachel is an incredibly dedicated dancer and nothing but the best reasons can keep her from doing something she's signed up to.
absstar has the right idea though ^_^
xxx
KittyCat260 4 years ago
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Belly dance is only a business for Rachel Brice she just like to be in rich country where people can pay her a lot, Belly dance just only for Europe and USA.
rutitaforever84 4 years ago
That's just stupid, of course Rachel isn't in it for the money! There are much better paying jobs than being a bellydancer, even a bellydance superstar - she does what she does because she loves it. Just because you obviously don't understand how a real human being works on the inside, doesn't mean you can think everyone is just a money-grabbing idiot. With views like that, you shouldn't be doing something as spiritual as bellydance anyway.
KittyCat260 4 years ago 3
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Ok moron learn proper English!
I cant understand a thing you are saying...
bellylou1987 3 years ago
Um, that's French.
MissMidoria 3 years ago
Please tell me that's not true!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am booked to go there at the end of August. Rachel was the one to be the instructor. I hope she's okay though. Nevertheless, I'd be sad... :(
Azabache49 4 years ago
lol you're mad cause she's not gonna go to your country? sounds to me like she's a big deal to you
YWCH1291 4 years ago
lol !! the girl dressed in white is my teacher !!
lyndeer 4 years ago
thats hilarious to have english translated to French... one is used to the other way around
sunmaidliz 5 years ago
LOL
vulturewaterbug 5 years ago
Para mim é pouco oriental muito americano demais é sempre uma ilusão sobre a cultura ariental. como re-interpretação norte americana o trablho é ótimo mas como representação da cultura oriental não diz nada. Tânia
mairamagno 5 years ago
I've always favored cabaret-style dancing, but OH MY GOSH! The tribal girls are FABULOUS! Looks like the pendulum is swing the opposite direction!
AminahAli 5 years ago
I get grumpy at the fact the vid cuts off just when they're talking to Rachel. Still a good vid, though.
GypsyRed 5 years ago
LOVE IT. But being in french, it was just like trying to watch TV when I was on work experience in Lille....thank god there wasn't anything too difficult...
KittyCat260 5 years ago
http://almayr.webcindario.com its the best!!!!
danzasalmayr@hotmail.com
ALMAYR 5 years ago
omg there so hot!!! i like wat sonia did that was so cool
nazli07 5 years ago
this is awsomeeee!!!
lhiaZrose 5 years ago
I love jillina-shes so fabulous. It was nice of you to share this with all of us. thank you.
shirine 5 years ago
thanks for uploading this! ^__^
SesshieNoMiko 5 years ago
Still, Ansuya has a mean shimmy
Zayashuku 5 years ago
The Super Stars rock esp...Ansuya, she is a Miami Belldyance Meetup Member!
Medina2004 6 years ago