I completely and utterly agree with you. Fortunately for me, my previous white MacBook reached the end of its lifespan just in time for me to get a new one for $1099 AUD. Aesthetically I think the white MacBook underpins Apple's timeless design and that it is a true loss to axe this timeless contraption!!! Hopefully I can get many many years out of my beloved white MacBook!!
The white MB was competing with both the MBP and MBA. There was no real place for it in Apple's product lineup. I knew they were going to trim the fat when they redesigned the MBA.
@sc0pl355 I dont think the mb competes with mba, but mbp maybe in the states. You missed the point tho, where outside the states in countries where apple is even more expensive (and i'm not just talking about my own country here) the macbook was a real option, however it's seems that is insignificant in the eyes of apple and us folks outside the US might as well not even exist for all they care.
It's like you're surprised Apple is overpriced. Of course it is, and always was! Let's face it, the Macbook was a sad excuse for a notebook anyway...for $1k, it was silly.
However, it was a good alternative to those who didn't need the power of a MBP. It made a good addition to their overpriced lineup.
This would piss people off, but I'd like to see the Macbook Pros without an optical drive... or at least the option to swap it for something actually useful (who still uses those?).
@PoliticalHell While I disagree with some things you say, I too would like to see the MBP lose the optical in favor of a second internal hard drive or SSD. I literally haven't used mine more than twice in almost three years.
@PoliticalHell >However, it was a good alternative to those who didn't need the power of a MBP. It made a good addition to their overpriced lineup.
That's the only reason why I was surprised, like you said it was a good alternative to a MBP.
Nah, i personally dont care if it's on a mini or not as it's not a big deal to use an external optical drive if needed but on a notebook where it would get in the way of portability I dont think its the greatest decision regardless of whether you'd need it
@codebean "That's the only reason why I was surprised, like you said it was a good alternative to a MBP."
It doesn't make much sense for them to have the MB being an alternative to the MBP. They have to construct two totally different computers in hope you'd purchase one? Doesn't sound right from a business standpoint.
@sc0pl355 Yes you're right they should just construct one computer and tell the customers if it doesnt have the price/performance or portability you want or need that's just too bad as it costs too much for them to make multiple computers.
Yes the mbp and imac have same price they must obviously compete with each other as well then. It's bad for apple to do this they must throw away either 21" imac or the 13" mbp.
@codebean "Yes the mbp and imac have same price they must obviously compete with each other as well then."
ok, now you're being silly. they serve two totally different purposes. So NO, they don't compete with each other. If you want what one offers over the other then you have to get that one.
" It's bad for apple to do this they must throw away either 21" imac or the 13" mbp."
They don't compete with each other because they serve different markets. The MB served the SAME market as the MBP
@sc0pl355 You were talking about the mba & mb with the same price remember not the mbp & mb....
Quote from scopless: "They have the same starting price.It is clear that Apple is gearing the MBA to be their entry level product instead of the MB." Hence the reference to the imac and mbp with the same price.
"they serve two totally different purposes", yes and so do the mba & mb,despite the same price.So now its purpose not price well lets not have 3 mbp models then!Lets really limit ppls choice!
@codebean "You were talking about the mba & mb with the same price "
Incorrect. I was saying that was the first sign that the MB was going to get axed. The MB serves the SAME purpose that the 13" MBP serves. The exact-same-purpose. That's what made the MB the odd man out. Served the same purpose as the MBP but had the same price as the MBA. Doesn't make sense to keep it from a business standpoint.
"yes and so do the mba & mb"
No, the MB serves the SAME purpose that the MBP serves.
It was always purpose. I mentioned price as something that tipped me off to the possibility of this happening.
"lets not have 3 mbp models then!"
I bought an iPad over an iPod touch based on the screen size. Look, the white macbook had the same screen size that the 13" MBP had and, if updated, would probably have the same hardware under the hood. What would be the defining difference? The polyurethane shell? Give me a break.
I completely and utterly agree with you. Fortunately for me, my previous white MacBook reached the end of its lifespan just in time for me to get a new one for $1099 AUD. Aesthetically I think the white MacBook underpins Apple's timeless design and that it is a true loss to axe this timeless contraption!!! Hopefully I can get many many years out of my beloved white MacBook!!
eliseliselisicle 7 months ago
They should have kept the white book and brought back the black book.
GlockNinja 7 months ago
@GlockNinja Yeah the black macbook looked cool. Sad =[
codebean 7 months ago
The white MB was competing with both the MBP and MBA. There was no real place for it in Apple's product lineup. I knew they were going to trim the fat when they redesigned the MBA.
It isn't a devastating cut.
sc0pl355 7 months ago
@sc0pl355 I dont think the mb competes with mba, but mbp maybe in the states. You missed the point tho, where outside the states in countries where apple is even more expensive (and i'm not just talking about my own country here) the macbook was a real option, however it's seems that is insignificant in the eyes of apple and us folks outside the US might as well not even exist for all they care.
codebean 7 months ago
@codebean "I dont think the mb competes with mba"
They have the same starting price. It is clear that Apple is gearing the MBA to be their entry level product instead of the MB.
sc0pl355 7 months ago
It's like you're surprised Apple is overpriced. Of course it is, and always was! Let's face it, the Macbook was a sad excuse for a notebook anyway...for $1k, it was silly.
However, it was a good alternative to those who didn't need the power of a MBP. It made a good addition to their overpriced lineup.
This would piss people off, but I'd like to see the Macbook Pros without an optical drive... or at least the option to swap it for something actually useful (who still uses those?).
PoliticalHell 7 months ago
@PoliticalHell While I disagree with some things you say, I too would like to see the MBP lose the optical in favor of a second internal hard drive or SSD. I literally haven't used mine more than twice in almost three years.
sc0pl355 7 months ago
@PoliticalHell >However, it was a good alternative to those who didn't need the power of a MBP. It made a good addition to their overpriced lineup.
That's the only reason why I was surprised, like you said it was a good alternative to a MBP.
Nah, i personally dont care if it's on a mini or not as it's not a big deal to use an external optical drive if needed but on a notebook where it would get in the way of portability I dont think its the greatest decision regardless of whether you'd need it
codebean 7 months ago
@codebean "That's the only reason why I was surprised, like you said it was a good alternative to a MBP."
It doesn't make much sense for them to have the MB being an alternative to the MBP. They have to construct two totally different computers in hope you'd purchase one? Doesn't sound right from a business standpoint.
sc0pl355 7 months ago
@sc0pl355 Yes you're right they should just construct one computer and tell the customers if it doesnt have the price/performance or portability you want or need that's just too bad as it costs too much for them to make multiple computers.
Yes the mbp and imac have same price they must obviously compete with each other as well then. It's bad for apple to do this they must throw away either 21" imac or the 13" mbp.
codebean 7 months ago
@codebean "Yes you're right they should just construct one computer "
That's basically what they do. One computer per class with only screen sizes to differentiate them.
MBA= Ultraportable
MBP= Slimline Laptop
Mac Mini= Mini PC
iMac= All in one
Mac Pro= Workstation tower
"it costs too much for them to make multiple computers."
I was referring to economy of scale. Selling the MB would be fine if there were anything to set it apart from a MBP other than the polyurethane case.
sc0pl355 7 months ago
@codebean "Yes the mbp and imac have same price they must obviously compete with each other as well then."
ok, now you're being silly. they serve two totally different purposes. So NO, they don't compete with each other. If you want what one offers over the other then you have to get that one.
" It's bad for apple to do this they must throw away either 21" imac or the 13" mbp."
They don't compete with each other because they serve different markets. The MB served the SAME market as the MBP
sc0pl355 7 months ago
@sc0pl355 You were talking about the mba & mb with the same price remember not the mbp & mb....
Quote from scopless: "They have the same starting price.It is clear that Apple is gearing the MBA to be their entry level product instead of the MB." Hence the reference to the imac and mbp with the same price.
"they serve two totally different purposes", yes and so do the mba & mb,despite the same price.So now its purpose not price well lets not have 3 mbp models then!Lets really limit ppls choice!
codebean 7 months ago
@codebean "You were talking about the mba & mb with the same price "
Incorrect. I was saying that was the first sign that the MB was going to get axed. The MB serves the SAME purpose that the 13" MBP serves. The exact-same-purpose. That's what made the MB the odd man out. Served the same purpose as the MBP but had the same price as the MBA. Doesn't make sense to keep it from a business standpoint.
"yes and so do the mba & mb"
No, the MB serves the SAME purpose that the MBP serves.
cont
sc0pl355 7 months ago
@codebean "So now its purpose not price"
It was always purpose. I mentioned price as something that tipped me off to the possibility of this happening.
"lets not have 3 mbp models then!"
I bought an iPad over an iPod touch based on the screen size. Look, the white macbook had the same screen size that the 13" MBP had and, if updated, would probably have the same hardware under the hood. What would be the defining difference? The polyurethane shell? Give me a break.
sc0pl355 7 months ago