I just turned 18.....I gotten a few whoopings by my parents either by belt or by the hand....and I noticed as I grew up (generally speaking) the kids that never gotten beatings would talk back to their parents or act up verbally or physically and that was my way of learning from right and wrong as a "life lesson".
Now I believe there is "Too much spanking" because I've met abusive parents.....but I believe it should be involved in a part of discipline.
What he is talking about is an official limit. Right now there isn't one, so it is a case by case basis. For example, two cases of paddling where there was extensive bruising. One judge has the parents charged and the case is tried, convicted of child abuse. The other judge in a different town has the case dismissed as "the unfortunate result of a good paddling."
Example 2, all the school paddlings with extensive bruising where nothing is done, but if a parent did it, cps would be there.
children can be taught discipline without ever been hit it is possible it drives me mad when think spanking is the only way a child with learn not misbehave be polite good mannered my parents taught me to have table manners and behave without slapping once or even threaten to do so I have mild learning difficulties and aspergers my parents had patience kindness helped me with my struggled with social skills and I was hyperactive very emotional they both died now I respect them not hitting me
hitting a child when not in anger is much worse when the parent has lost it for moment as its thought out to hurt the child the child will think thats how you deal with disagrements,forcing someone to act way you want them too theres alot reasons why children misbahave especially with small children tired wanting fed bad mood etc older kids could be getting bullied at school etc not all bad behavor is planed like whe I was sexaully abuse I acted up for someone to help me at school etc
All corporal punishment of children should be banned. It's worse for babies of course, which is what this law is about. But any age child should be legally protected from being hit, slapped, spanked, made to kneel on gravel or rice, pinched, ears or hair pulled, hot-sauced, and all the other painful acts adults routinely inflict on vulnerable children. Stop hanging onto old myths about spanking! It's been proven with mountains of research to be risky and harmful.
I agree. No children of any age should be hit, and hitting a baby is OUTRAGEOUS! I can't believe that there are actually still some parenting books being sold that recommend whipping babies as young as 6 months old. It's disgusting.
Also since they were babies me and my wife have always encouraged positiveity and natiuralness in the naked human body and we've at home been conpletely naked in front of then growing up. Play boys, thing s like victorias secret magazine ad most TV and movies are forbidden in our house. As well as pieres and especially makeup for our girls.
and also my children arent allowed to wear jeans , eat meat go to mcdonalds, ad I encourage them away form interests in cars and machienes of an are home schooled. And I teach them alot bout Nature and native americans and various aboriginal peoples from around the world.
I am happy to say in all my days spent on thiss earth i have never layed a hand on a child in any form of hitting. My own or others. And from now untill the day i die I will keep it that way.
Anyway even that spare the rod proverb realy means somethinng if you spare them the toroh then yyou children wont measure and it in no way mmeans to hit them. Plus the bible has alot of other horrible punishments which are especially unheared of by todays standards. Shakespeare once said in some play the devil will cite sripture even for his purpose.
However Both situations are still very very wrong and should never be done ever. And I would support a none criminalization informal social control law like they have in places like Sweden.
Just like two adults have the right to willingly engage in Sodomy with one another even though its wrong and they dont ever ultimately have the right to do it. But people still do basicly have the right to sodomize one another as long as its in private and consented. And we dont have he right to force them other wise.
People have been spanking their children for years, and it hasnt been a problem until these new age liberals come in and start whining about it! its not like your beating the child to a pulp! its a slap on the tush, whats so bad about that?
Perfect. I need you in Birmingham, Alabama to begin a public campaign against the hitting, beating and whipping of children. Too many children's lives are being destroyed because of this permissable and acceptable form of child abuse.
yes, I agree. Perhaps a spanking incident can mean that they will have to take classes to educate themselves on how to care and support their child's development - Sort of like how in some states you have to take a class in order to have a dog and also how some people have to take anger management. Parenting classes should be required for because anyone can go out and have a baby whether they know how to care for it, or not!
I think preventing abuse is great, but this is not the way to do it. We already have laws that punish parents who abuse children and this proposal is neither necessary nor narrowly tailored to reach the specific conduct it aims to eliminate.
We have bigger more important issues to worry about these days. If our elected officials really want to do something for children,I suggested they focus on topics like education funding or foster care reform. Thanks for watching my clips! -Paul
first abd foremost that's taking away free will the law is not aloud to do that, not only will it not pass because of free will but also becaus it will conflict with religous beliefs, as long as I have my children, and they misbehave, they WILL get a spanking if I deam it necessary, I do not care what Law is passed, my home, my rules, my Religion comes first, not a quack's opinion.
I myself would not support any law that would completely make spanking of children compleely illegal with reprecussions if you get caught. Because parents still do have that basic right even though its completely wrong and unnessary. But as long as the life and well being of the child isnt threated in anyway parents still have the basic right to spank , slap whatever. Even though ultimmately they dont have the right to at all.
no it is never needed i will never agree to that but I will agree that you have the basic right to disipline you kids the way you see fit so long as it dosnt involve any actually abuse and leaves marks and bruses. And that the goverment or whoever still dost have the right to force you other wise. But you are still very wrong in hitting you kids.
Again, your opinion, it is necessary, as you will see when your child hit's his/her teen years, you will fully understand, you say it isnt, and I say it is, we are at a standstill,I will do what works and what is correct, you take your chances, that's fine I am not trying to convert you to the otherside, do what works.
And I am not really trying to convert you to my side. Even though I certainly wish you and people like you would convert. Just as I am sure your kind would want of me and my kind.:) But as for my kids when they are teens it is fully possible to to raise them up properlerly and obdient and strictly without hitting. And if I am taking a risk with not hitting mine then so are you as well taking a risk by hitting yours as disipline.
one can still be a good devote chirstian or whatever religon and still never hit their children ever. And still never bel,live in it. And still have children who grow up wonderful with strict disipline nonetheless.
Kids dont respect people for hitting them [and i speak as one]we respect people for kindness, dicipline[not spanking, there ARE other ways] and their sense of justice. If you hit me, i'll hit you, because even if i dont have the right to be safe and happy, i'll call it self defense anyway, because all adults have the right to do so.
your a given point of a child that was not spanked enough!! yuo are you responded exactly, you hit in defense, not when you are being taught, you are a child so I can understand how you would not be able to fully understand.
I am speaking of when you were a child, metaphore, I will agree with you on that, but the full understanding of a situation does not always have the understanding of the consequences.
Another comment - Besides hitting, Time out is one of the most horrible things you can do to a child. it is based on isolation - "think about what you did" This doesn't make sense because the child is thinking about either how not to get caught next time, how to get even, or worse, "I'm a bad person"
Finally someone hu talks sum sense around here. Kids are the ONLY people hu can in most places be legally assaulted. People are stupid when they talk about parents rights, shouldnt we be giving children the same rights as blacks, white, men, women, gays, straights, old people and even DOGS to be in a safe environment, free from mental and physical pain
This is true. Many countries have banned spanking and given children the same protection against violence as spouses. No one has a right to hit another. (except in self defense)
that's why alot of people's kids are always cussing at them and cussing at them. IF I did that shit to my parents, that's a big ass slap coming this way. Spanking is right if you can find the right balance, it;s not necessary to whup kids for every little kids, but when a kid wants to do a bad thing that may become a hbit, you better give him a sound spanking.
People say spanking is wrong but they wonder when their kids fuck up extremely bad
If kids are cussing at someone, then there is a more serious issue that they need help with - punsishment isn't going to solve the child's problems. It is only going to make them feel worse.How can you expect them to feel good about doing better? Many of the people who oppose hitting their kids are also against punishment because it only diverts behaviour out of fear. Positive/empathetic parenting makes no use of punishment. Do a google search for non punitive parenting
The reason kids "fuck up" as you put it is because they are misguided - they have the wrong ideas about how to achieve their goals. Parents need to stop feeling disappointed - because this means that their expectations were too serious. We need to protect our children; they are the last group to be protected under law in America. People must treat children with respect and set aside their pride and demands for respect!
true but it should still be illegal with abosolutely no reprecussions. For instance. You slap your child in someway, and social services or whoever finds out. They do absolutely nothing and leave you alone to raise your child as you see fit. Unless you start to get violent obussive in someway then they would take action obviously.
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Child buttock-battering vs. DISCIPLINE:
Child buttock-battering for the purpose of gaining compliance is nothing more than an inherited bad habit.
Its a good idea for people to take a look at what they are doing, and learn how to DISCIPLINE instead of hit.
Here are some good, quick reads recommended by professionals:
Plain Talk About Spanking
by Jordan Riak,
The Sexual Dangers of Spanking Children
by Tom Johnson,
NO VITAL ORGANS THERE, So They Say
by Lesli Taylor M.D. and Adah Maurer Ph.D.
PhDeverit 2 years ago
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kippinski02 2 years ago
Really now people?
I just turned 18.....I gotten a few whoopings by my parents either by belt or by the hand....and I noticed as I grew up (generally speaking) the kids that never gotten beatings would talk back to their parents or act up verbally or physically and that was my way of learning from right and wrong as a "life lesson".
Now I believe there is "Too much spanking" because I've met abusive parents.....but I believe it should be involved in a part of discipline.
Moog167 2 years ago
What he is talking about is an official limit. Right now there isn't one, so it is a case by case basis. For example, two cases of paddling where there was extensive bruising. One judge has the parents charged and the case is tried, convicted of child abuse. The other judge in a different town has the case dismissed as "the unfortunate result of a good paddling."
Example 2, all the school paddlings with extensive bruising where nothing is done, but if a parent did it, cps would be there.
EuphemiseThis 2 years ago
children can be taught discipline without ever been hit it is possible it drives me mad when think spanking is the only way a child with learn not misbehave be polite good mannered my parents taught me to have table manners and behave without slapping once or even threaten to do so I have mild learning difficulties and aspergers my parents had patience kindness helped me with my struggled with social skills and I was hyperactive very emotional they both died now I respect them not hitting me
punkyiie 3 years ago 2
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hitting a child when not in anger is much worse when the parent has lost it for moment as its thought out to hurt the child the child will think thats how you deal with disagrements,forcing someone to act way you want them too theres alot reasons why children misbahave especially with small children tired wanting fed bad mood etc older kids could be getting bullied at school etc not all bad behavor is planed like whe I was sexaully abuse I acted up for someone to help me at school etc
punkyiie 3 years ago
All corporal punishment of children should be banned. It's worse for babies of course, which is what this law is about. But any age child should be legally protected from being hit, slapped, spanked, made to kneel on gravel or rice, pinched, ears or hair pulled, hot-sauced, and all the other painful acts adults routinely inflict on vulnerable children. Stop hanging onto old myths about spanking! It's been proven with mountains of research to be risky and harmful.
ThumperBunny43 3 years ago 3
I agree. No children of any age should be hit, and hitting a baby is OUTRAGEOUS! I can't believe that there are actually still some parenting books being sold that recommend whipping babies as young as 6 months old. It's disgusting.
CherryFrog321 3 years ago 4
Now hitting a baby is so totally unnecesary and wrong! They are too young to even kow why u hit them!
PaperMoon2010 2 years ago
Of course BAN spanking!
elainenz 3 years ago 4
Also since they were babies me and my wife have always encouraged positiveity and natiuralness in the naked human body and we've at home been conpletely naked in front of then growing up. Play boys, thing s like victorias secret magazine ad most TV and movies are forbidden in our house. As well as pieres and especially makeup for our girls.
cuchulain55 4 years ago
and also my children arent allowed to wear jeans , eat meat go to mcdonalds, ad I encourage them away form interests in cars and machienes of an are home schooled. And I teach them alot bout Nature and native americans and various aboriginal peoples from around the world.
cuchulain55 4 years ago
I am happy to say in all my days spent on thiss earth i have never layed a hand on a child in any form of hitting. My own or others. And from now untill the day i die I will keep it that way.
cuchulain55 4 years ago 3
Anyway even that spare the rod proverb realy means somethinng if you spare them the toroh then yyou children wont measure and it in no way mmeans to hit them. Plus the bible has alot of other horrible punishments which are especially unheared of by todays standards. Shakespeare once said in some play the devil will cite sripture even for his purpose.
cuchulain55 4 years ago
However Both situations are still very very wrong and should never be done ever. And I would support a none criminalization informal social control law like they have in places like Sweden.
cuchulain55 4 years ago
Just like two adults have the right to willingly engage in Sodomy with one another even though its wrong and they dont ever ultimately have the right to do it. But people still do basicly have the right to sodomize one another as long as its in private and consented. And we dont have he right to force them other wise.
cuchulain55 4 years ago
People have been spanking their children for years, and it hasnt been a problem until these new age liberals come in and start whining about it! its not like your beating the child to a pulp! its a slap on the tush, whats so bad about that?
ninjasoccermom 4 years ago
it's not legal to hit an adult, then why should it be legal to hit a child? children have rights too!
BlablaBeulah 3 years ago 4
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ilikecheese4454 4 years ago
Perfect. I need you in Birmingham, Alabama to begin a public campaign against the hitting, beating and whipping of children. Too many children's lives are being destroyed because of this permissable and acceptable form of child abuse.
titusbattle45 4 years ago 2
i think it should be made illegal completely but no repricussions unless it turns into actually serious abuse.
cuchulain55 4 years ago
yes, I agree. Perhaps a spanking incident can mean that they will have to take classes to educate themselves on how to care and support their child's development - Sort of like how in some states you have to take a class in order to have a dog and also how some people have to take anger management. Parenting classes should be required for because anyone can go out and have a baby whether they know how to care for it, or not!
ForeverIsland8078 4 years ago 4
I agree.
I think preventing abuse is great, but this is not the way to do it. We already have laws that punish parents who abuse children and this proposal is neither necessary nor narrowly tailored to reach the specific conduct it aims to eliminate.
We have bigger more important issues to worry about these days. If our elected officials really want to do something for children,I suggested they focus on topics like education funding or foster care reform. Thanks for watching my clips! -Paul
pauldavid77 4 years ago
first abd foremost that's taking away free will the law is not aloud to do that, not only will it not pass because of free will but also becaus it will conflict with religous beliefs, as long as I have my children, and they misbehave, they WILL get a spanking if I deam it necessary, I do not care what Law is passed, my home, my rules, my Religion comes first, not a quack's opinion.
logansfirecracker 4 years ago
I myself would not support any law that would completely make spanking of children compleely illegal with reprecussions if you get caught. Because parents still do have that basic right even though its completely wrong and unnessary. But as long as the life and well being of the child isnt threated in anyway parents still have the basic right to spank , slap whatever. Even though ultimmately they dont have the right to at all.
cuchulain55 4 years ago
Again simply opinion, as I respect your's, I hope you do mine in the belief that on certain occasions it is needed.
logansfirecracker 4 years ago
no it is never needed i will never agree to that but I will agree that you have the basic right to disipline you kids the way you see fit so long as it dosnt involve any actually abuse and leaves marks and bruses. And that the goverment or whoever still dost have the right to force you other wise. But you are still very wrong in hitting you kids.
cuchulain55 4 years ago
Again, your opinion, it is necessary, as you will see when your child hit's his/her teen years, you will fully understand, you say it isnt, and I say it is, we are at a standstill,I will do what works and what is correct, you take your chances, that's fine I am not trying to convert you to the otherside, do what works.
logansfirecracker 4 years ago
And I am not really trying to convert you to my side. Even though I certainly wish you and people like you would convert. Just as I am sure your kind would want of me and my kind.:) But as for my kids when they are teens it is fully possible to to raise them up properlerly and obdient and strictly without hitting. And if I am taking a risk with not hitting mine then so are you as well taking a risk by hitting yours as disipline.
cuchulain55 4 years ago
one can still be a good devote chirstian or whatever religon and still never hit their children ever. And still never bel,live in it. And still have children who grow up wonderful with strict disipline nonetheless.
cuchulain55 4 years ago
Kids dont respect people for hitting them [and i speak as one]we respect people for kindness, dicipline[not spanking, there ARE other ways] and their sense of justice. If you hit me, i'll hit you, because even if i dont have the right to be safe and happy, i'll call it self defense anyway, because all adults have the right to do so.
Youssii 4 years ago 5
you are so right.
ForeverIsland8078 4 years ago 3
your a given point of a child that was not spanked enough!! yuo are you responded exactly, you hit in defense, not when you are being taught, you are a child so I can understand how you would not be able to fully understand.
logansfirecracker 4 years ago
sometimes children understand things alot better then the adults at times. And I am not a child Im 26.
cuchulain55 4 years ago
I am speaking of when you were a child, metaphore, I will agree with you on that, but the full understanding of a situation does not always have the understanding of the consequences.
logansfirecracker 4 years ago
Another comment - Besides hitting, Time out is one of the most horrible things you can do to a child. it is based on isolation - "think about what you did" This doesn't make sense because the child is thinking about either how not to get caught next time, how to get even, or worse, "I'm a bad person"
ForeverIsland8078 4 years ago
Finally someone hu talks sum sense around here. Kids are the ONLY people hu can in most places be legally assaulted. People are stupid when they talk about parents rights, shouldnt we be giving children the same rights as blacks, white, men, women, gays, straights, old people and even DOGS to be in a safe environment, free from mental and physical pain
Youssii 4 years ago 7
This is true. Many countries have banned spanking and given children the same protection against violence as spouses. No one has a right to hit another. (except in self defense)
ForeverIsland8078 4 years ago 5
that's why alot of people's kids are always cussing at them and cussing at them. IF I did that shit to my parents, that's a big ass slap coming this way. Spanking is right if you can find the right balance, it;s not necessary to whup kids for every little kids, but when a kid wants to do a bad thing that may become a hbit, you better give him a sound spanking.
People say spanking is wrong but they wonder when their kids fuck up extremely bad
cartmanclone 4 years ago
If kids are cussing at someone, then there is a more serious issue that they need help with - punsishment isn't going to solve the child's problems. It is only going to make them feel worse.How can you expect them to feel good about doing better? Many of the people who oppose hitting their kids are also against punishment because it only diverts behaviour out of fear. Positive/empathetic parenting makes no use of punishment. Do a google search for non punitive parenting
ForeverIsland8078 4 years ago 4
The reason kids "fuck up" as you put it is because they are misguided - they have the wrong ideas about how to achieve their goals. Parents need to stop feeling disappointed - because this means that their expectations were too serious. We need to protect our children; they are the last group to be protected under law in America. People must treat children with respect and set aside their pride and demands for respect!
ForeverIsland8078 4 years ago 4
respect will come if you give another person a good reason to respect you - !!!! We shouldn't respect people blindly!!!!!
ForeverIsland8078 4 years ago 2
I think that the decision to spank is really an individual choice that parents alone should make -without government intrusion or definition.
I think this law is designed to get headlines, not to truly protect children. Anyway, thats my 2 cents.
Thanks for watching my clips! -Paul
pauldavid77 4 years ago
true but it should still be illegal with abosolutely no reprecussions. For instance. You slap your child in someway, and social services or whoever finds out. They do absolutely nothing and leave you alone to raise your child as you see fit. Unless you start to get violent obussive in someway then they would take action obviously.
cuchulain55 4 years ago
VOTE IDIOT OUT !!!!!
bluewolverine40 4 years ago