For goodness' sake!!! Would liberals STOP pointing fingers at EVERYTHING people on FOX say? They destroyed Palin entirely, ridicule unbiased news and Mr.O'Reilly (he's independent) for NOTHING. No wonder why FOX has the highest approval ratings than MSNBC, NBC, and CNN combined.
@JackKlompus13 Apparently, people aren't allowed to do that anymore - ironic. They (liberals) did more to Palin just because she's a woman and Republican.
Yeah, because Liberals only care about her being Republican and female. Because we all know there's no... female Liberals! Lord no! Yeah, it's not that Liberals don't like her because she's stupid, ignorant, inexperienced and corrupt, but just because of trivial reasons! Oh, and I thought I knew my own fucking party!
@JackKlompus13 She was a heck of a lot better than anyone at the time!! She still probably is. Come, on - the media tortured her and NEVER gave her a chance. There are female liberals, but interestingly enough, when she was attacked, NOT ONE OF THE "WOMEN'S SUPPORT" GROUPS HELPED HER.
I have mixed feelings about that. Okay, I'll admit maybe I understand what you're saying. Though I still believe what I said about Palin is legitimate, I guess Palin's personality isn't really what is commonly respected by media people. And maybe she did sort of become a target. I was not aware that Palin hadn't been helped by Support groups. Depending on how you feel, Liberals may argue that she's not really representative of how women feel and act in modern times...
@JackKlompus13 Completely understandable. You and I are fortunate that we can see both sides of the problem :)
The problem I have with liberals is that they are too far left, just as rambo conservatives are too far right. I'm an independent - I'm as green as they come, but when there's a national security threat, I don't sit around waving the foot-print-of-the-
American-chicken.
From what I know, Palin seemed like an OK candidate - I watched the media eat her alive.
@JackKlompus13 I may be, or I may be not - I'm just telling you what I and a lot of other independents think. Believing does not make it necessarily true...
@JackKlompus13 Well, I'm your first :). I chose to be independent because I share both views of Democrats and Republicans. I grew up in a house of Republicans (no... conservatives) who were a little too far right (like my gung-ho bro, USMC vet). I am pro-enviornment (but not as crazy as Al Gore), but when war is brewing, I'll react. Independents and Moderates are usually sensible people - not like the far left loons or like the crazy far rights.
Hmmm... I should admit that you've made an intriguing point. I can see how a more balanced perspective might possibly lead to better understanding than that of the Left or Right.
The best part about being independent, though, (besides the freedom) is that there are no "traitors" - by "traitors" I mean people who switch sides from Republican to Democrat, like Lieberman. It's not necessarily bad, but voters tend to shun "traitors".
@JackKlompus13 Well... of that, I'm not entirely sure, since the Independent Party isn't really recognized in the executive branch of the government, but independents generally agree on the political views.
Come on man, you're not really going to sit there and tell me that you don't see how what Moore did was intentionally deceitful and dishonest are you? I mean there is just no way that you can believe that what O''Reilly said was "Calling for violence to happen" to Moore and "Preaching violence and preaching hate' are you?
You really think that if this situation was reversed and Moore joked like that and then O'Reilly stretched the truth you would be saying the same thing right now?
er. what is the lie exactly? because from what i see in this clip, Moore is actually correct. lol
O'Reilly did in fact say on national tv that he wants to kill Moore. Then proceeds to say it was a joke? You know this is supposedly a news channel right? You don't see anyone in a show on msnbc or cnn openly say they want to kill someone. It's unprofessional and biased even if it was meant as a joke.
But my point was Moore was right, Bill was indeed advocating violence even if it was a joke.
@anakin11380 Actually MSNBC says shit all the time, look what they did to Rand paul and tea partiers.. if they pull the race card in a fucking debate again Michael moore's life should be on the line. It was stated a joke on the scene, and Michael moore is the Head man of stupidity for the left, its a liberals best interest to kill him anyway. He is the less persuasive version of Glenn beck for the right. His films are a joke
@anakin11380 it was in comparison to Moore saying our president is a deserter. hes saying that if hes going to be saying that why cant i say this? and clarified it was just in jest. i don't always if almost ever agree with O'reilly but he is right this time Moore lied. and if you don't want to call it a lie its a hidden truth. he said something that was almost right but turned the wording to make it seem different.
Wow funny all those guys having a man crush on O'Reilly
JustsBob 4 months ago
Fuck that fat peice of shit Michael Moore I hope he does get murdered.....
BUDx2 5 months ago
"I want to kill Michael Moore" you will see that sniplet in Moores next movie without the part after it where he says it was just joking.
jjenson2006 7 months ago
Mike Moore is a pussy makes money from it!!!
MrDomdrum 7 months ago
For goodness' sake!!! Would liberals STOP pointing fingers at EVERYTHING people on FOX say? They destroyed Palin entirely, ridicule unbiased news and Mr.O'Reilly (he's independent) for NOTHING. No wonder why FOX has the highest approval ratings than MSNBC, NBC, and CNN combined.
celticbattleaxe 9 months ago
Uhhh... That's not really a lie, you know. I don't love Michael Moore, but he's right about the obvious fact that Bill O'Reilly made a bad joke.
JackKlompus13 10 months ago
@JackKlompus13 Apparently, people aren't allowed to do that anymore - ironic. They (liberals) did more to Palin just because she's a woman and Republican.
celticbattleaxe 9 months ago
@celticbattleaxe
Yeah, because Liberals only care about her being Republican and female. Because we all know there's no... female Liberals! Lord no! Yeah, it's not that Liberals don't like her because she's stupid, ignorant, inexperienced and corrupt, but just because of trivial reasons! Oh, and I thought I knew my own fucking party!
JackKlompus13 9 months ago
@JackKlompus13 She was a heck of a lot better than anyone at the time!! She still probably is. Come, on - the media tortured her and NEVER gave her a chance. There are female liberals, but interestingly enough, when she was attacked, NOT ONE OF THE "WOMEN'S SUPPORT" GROUPS HELPED HER.
celticbattleaxe 9 months ago
@celticbattleaxe
I have mixed feelings about that. Okay, I'll admit maybe I understand what you're saying. Though I still believe what I said about Palin is legitimate, I guess Palin's personality isn't really what is commonly respected by media people. And maybe she did sort of become a target. I was not aware that Palin hadn't been helped by Support groups. Depending on how you feel, Liberals may argue that she's not really representative of how women feel and act in modern times...
JackKlompus13 9 months ago
@JackKlompus13 Completely understandable. You and I are fortunate that we can see both sides of the problem :)
The problem I have with liberals is that they are too far left, just as rambo conservatives are too far right. I'm an independent - I'm as green as they come, but when there's a national security threat, I don't sit around waving the foot-print-of-the-
American-chicken.
From what I know, Palin seemed like an OK candidate - I watched the media eat her alive.
celticbattleaxe 9 months ago
@celticbattleaxe
Okay, I get what you mean. You may be right.
JackKlompus13 9 months ago
@JackKlompus13 I may be, or I may be not - I'm just telling you what I and a lot of other independents think. Believing does not make it necessarily true...
celticbattleaxe 9 months ago
@celticbattleaxe
Interesting to read about the views of an Independent voter. I don't know any people with Independent political views.
JackKlompus13 9 months ago
@JackKlompus13 Well, I'm your first :). I chose to be independent because I share both views of Democrats and Republicans. I grew up in a house of Republicans (no... conservatives) who were a little too far right (like my gung-ho bro, USMC vet). I am pro-enviornment (but not as crazy as Al Gore), but when war is brewing, I'll react. Independents and Moderates are usually sensible people - not like the far left loons or like the crazy far rights.
celticbattleaxe 9 months ago
@celticbattleaxe
Hmmm... I should admit that you've made an intriguing point. I can see how a more balanced perspective might possibly lead to better understanding than that of the Left or Right.
JackKlompus13 9 months ago
@JackKlompus13 Why thanks!! :)
The best part about being independent, though, (besides the freedom) is that there are no "traitors" - by "traitors" I mean people who switch sides from Republican to Democrat, like Lieberman. It's not necessarily bad, but voters tend to shun "traitors".
celticbattleaxe 9 months ago
@celticbattleaxe
Is there a general consensus among Independents as to what political views are best for the country?
JackKlompus13 9 months ago
@JackKlompus13 Well... of that, I'm not entirely sure, since the Independent Party isn't really recognized in the executive branch of the government, but independents generally agree on the political views.
celticbattleaxe 9 months ago
@celticbattleaxe
Interesting. Good to learn about the Independent party.
JackKlompus13 9 months ago
@JackKlompus13 Anytime - that's what we're here for :)
celticbattleaxe 9 months ago
@celticbattleaxe
Okay.
JackKlompus13 9 months ago
...and where was the lie on moore's part?
DieselPBR 1 year ago
Come on man, you're not really going to sit there and tell me that you don't see how what Moore did was intentionally deceitful and dishonest are you? I mean there is just no way that you can believe that what O''Reilly said was "Calling for violence to happen" to Moore and "Preaching violence and preaching hate' are you?
You really think that if this situation was reversed and Moore joked like that and then O'Reilly stretched the truth you would be saying the same thing right now?
Neroh2 1 year ago
er. what is the lie exactly? because from what i see in this clip, Moore is actually correct. lol
O'Reilly did in fact say on national tv that he wants to kill Moore. Then proceeds to say it was a joke? You know this is supposedly a news channel right? You don't see anyone in a show on msnbc or cnn openly say they want to kill someone. It's unprofessional and biased even if it was meant as a joke.
But my point was Moore was right, Bill was indeed advocating violence even if it was a joke.
anakin11380 1 year ago
@anakin11380 Actually MSNBC says shit all the time, look what they did to Rand paul and tea partiers.. if they pull the race card in a fucking debate again Michael moore's life should be on the line. It was stated a joke on the scene, and Michael moore is the Head man of stupidity for the left, its a liberals best interest to kill him anyway. He is the less persuasive version of Glenn beck for the right. His films are a joke
Lesrevil08 1 year ago
@anakin11380 it was in comparison to Moore saying our president is a deserter. hes saying that if hes going to be saying that why cant i say this? and clarified it was just in jest. i don't always if almost ever agree with O'reilly but he is right this time Moore lied. and if you don't want to call it a lie its a hidden truth. he said something that was almost right but turned the wording to make it seem different.
gibblets17 11 months ago