Good job with these videos. Ignore Mr. Critic above. For future videos it would be great to see the proper way to put a valve extender on a tire and any recommendations on liquid sealer for tube tire punctures that one might use instead of changing a tire when out on a ride. Again thanks for doing the videos.
We understand your points. USAT sanctioned races, do not allow assistance to the athlete.
We are not telling people to ride on just glued tires as a habit. The process outlined in the video allows you to finish the race and has worked for many people, safely.
There is now also a product similar to "fix-a-flat" called pitstop which helps solve some of the issues you have mentioned.
This is showing what you would do on race day. Before you use the wheels you actually would have applied glue to both wheels and tire. In a race flat situation you follow the steps outlined in the video and then following the race you would get the wheel and tire reglued.
seriously, who really has a sag wagon carrying their spare wheels? get real man. 99% of people who do tri's that use tubulars are doing exactly what he did here if not worse. i've seen all kinds of shit, and they make out just fine.
I've heard some horror stories about glue/cement being messy and hard to apply even without making a mess of your nice wheels. I've also heard some positive stories about tufo tubular gluing rim tape - would you recommend use of that, and does that (like glue/cement) need cleaning between replacements? Thanks for the great video
Tufo tape does work well, but when you remove a tire, it comes off with the tire and so needs to be reapplied. Make sure the wheel and tire you have are compatible with tape as not all combos work.
If I were in a race situation and my tape stuck tires get flat , I need to carry a spare tape and tubular with me ? Or would I be better off using glue for my tires ?
If you have used tape, yes, you will need to carry spare tape and tubular tire. Use of glue or tape is up to personal preference; one is not recommended over the other.
I find your responds to questions (all3sportsTV) totally ridiculouse.bladedspokes is right and if you wanted to post for educating people,do it properly,I learned nothing from you except a big laugh.
You forgot to mention that the valve stem should be perpendicular to the rim when mounting or you will experience a "thump" "thump" with every revolution when inflated. Also, make sure your new tire can handle the deep dish rims. If the stem is too short for the rim you will be walking home.
You shouldn't remove old glue from the rim anyway! Applying new glue will 'reactivate' the old, and provide a better join with the tyre (as well as saving you glue!)
Depending on the kind of glue you use, not cleaning the rim could result in multiple layers of glue that do not bond well enough to the tire. That is a bit dangerous, so as a precaution we clean the rims on replacement of the flat tire. Removing the old glue and allowing for sufficient curing time when applying the new glue and tire, ensures the bond can be as strong as possible to the rim.
thanks for the comment! The idea behind the video was the "in a race" scenario, when you don't have a chance to do a full clean and prep glue job. Absolutely, if you've got the time you would want to do a full glue job. We will address that in a future video!
Umm... "In a race" scenario, the sag wagon has your spare wheel/tire. You do not have time to do this "in a race" scenario. Also, I would not want to race on a tire that you glued. That came off WAY too easily. You can't "race" on a tire that you just mounted in the field because the glue has not had time to set. The first corner you took hard would roll the tire off the rim, especially at low pressure.
This is in relation to a triathlon. With practice, changing a tubular is much faster than clinchers and fairly easy. If you were not planning on finishing the race then the sag wagon could get you, but they would not have spare wheel for you. A 16 gram CO2 will put a 700c wheel to about 100psi which is plenty to keep the tire on for getting to the end of the race. We are not suggesting you take any corners hard after this situation.
Well, I can appreciate your opinion. I just think safety is the most important thing. This is why I have never and will never race on tubulars unless they've set completely. I didn't know about the "no help" rule in Tri, but if that were the case, I would ride clinchers. It's not worth the significant safety risk to race on an unset tubular. There's a good reason I've never been to the hospital as a result of riding my bike. It's better to lose the race than lose 6 months of riding.
Good job 1 Nicely explained .
mackaliscious 2 years ago
Good job with these videos. Ignore Mr. Critic above. For future videos it would be great to see the proper way to put a valve extender on a tire and any recommendations on liquid sealer for tube tire punctures that one might use instead of changing a tire when out on a ride. Again thanks for doing the videos.
Jessie5048 2 years ago
We understand your points. USAT sanctioned races, do not allow assistance to the athlete.
We are not telling people to ride on just glued tires as a habit. The process outlined in the video allows you to finish the race and has worked for many people, safely.
There is now also a product similar to "fix-a-flat" called pitstop which helps solve some of the issues you have mentioned.
all3sportsTV 2 years ago
This is showing what you would do on race day. Before you use the wheels you actually would have applied glue to both wheels and tire. In a race flat situation you follow the steps outlined in the video and then following the race you would get the wheel and tire reglued.
all3sportsTV 2 years ago
seriously, who really has a sag wagon carrying their spare wheels? get real man. 99% of people who do tri's that use tubulars are doing exactly what he did here if not worse. i've seen all kinds of shit, and they make out just fine.
nice vid.
paviglianti 2 years ago
I've heard some horror stories about glue/cement being messy and hard to apply even without making a mess of your nice wheels. I've also heard some positive stories about tufo tubular gluing rim tape - would you recommend use of that, and does that (like glue/cement) need cleaning between replacements? Thanks for the great video
camareroque 2 years ago
Tufo tape does work well, but when you remove a tire, it comes off with the tire and so needs to be reapplied. Make sure the wheel and tire you have are compatible with tape as not all combos work.
all3sportsTV 2 years ago
If I were in a race situation and my tape stuck tires get flat , I need to carry a spare tape and tubular with me ? Or would I be better off using glue for my tires ?
dguzmn 2 years ago
If you have used tape, yes, you will need to carry spare tape and tubular tire. Use of glue or tape is up to personal preference; one is not recommended over the other.
all3sportsTV 2 years ago
I find your responds to questions (all3sportsTV) totally ridiculouse.bladedspokes is right and if you wanted to post for educating people,do it properly,I learned nothing from you except a big laugh.
880278010 2 years ago
Sorry you feel this way. We attempt to provide information as we have experienced it and based on conversations we have with the industry experts.
Our videos are skewed towards triathletes and as such are biased to our sanctioning bodies rules and regulations.
Though not always perfect, the suggestions we provide have been tested by many triathletes and ourselves.
all3sportsTV 2 years ago 15
You forgot to mention that the valve stem should be perpendicular to the rim when mounting or you will experience a "thump" "thump" with every revolution when inflated. Also, make sure your new tire can handle the deep dish rims. If the stem is too short for the rim you will be walking home.
fredscolnago 2 years ago
Good points. We typically prep the spare with a valve extender that is large enough for the deepest wheel in your set.
all3sportsTV 2 years ago
nice zipp wheels;P
13endix 3 years ago
You shouldn't remove old glue from the rim anyway! Applying new glue will 'reactivate' the old, and provide a better join with the tyre (as well as saving you glue!)
qckpckt 3 years ago
Depending on the kind of glue you use, not cleaning the rim could result in multiple layers of glue that do not bond well enough to the tire. That is a bit dangerous, so as a precaution we clean the rims on replacement of the flat tire. Removing the old glue and allowing for sufficient curing time when applying the new glue and tire, ensures the bond can be as strong as possible to the rim.
all3sportsTV 3 years ago
Hope to be buying a set of 404s soon (first tubular) found this very helpful. Thanks.
NorthofYou1 3 years ago
...great....but you forgot to:
- put the glue on the rim
- remove the old glue from the rim
franzpaolo 4 years ago
thanks for the comment! The idea behind the video was the "in a race" scenario, when you don't have a chance to do a full clean and prep glue job. Absolutely, if you've got the time you would want to do a full glue job. We will address that in a future video!
all3sportsTV 4 years ago
Umm... "In a race" scenario, the sag wagon has your spare wheel/tire. You do not have time to do this "in a race" scenario. Also, I would not want to race on a tire that you glued. That came off WAY too easily. You can't "race" on a tire that you just mounted in the field because the glue has not had time to set. The first corner you took hard would roll the tire off the rim, especially at low pressure.
bladedspokes 3 years ago
This is in relation to a triathlon. With practice, changing a tubular is much faster than clinchers and fairly easy. If you were not planning on finishing the race then the sag wagon could get you, but they would not have spare wheel for you. A 16 gram CO2 will put a 700c wheel to about 100psi which is plenty to keep the tire on for getting to the end of the race. We are not suggesting you take any corners hard after this situation.
all3sportsTV 3 years ago
Well, I can appreciate your opinion. I just think safety is the most important thing. This is why I have never and will never race on tubulars unless they've set completely. I didn't know about the "no help" rule in Tri, but if that were the case, I would ride clinchers. It's not worth the significant safety risk to race on an unset tubular. There's a good reason I've never been to the hospital as a result of riding my bike. It's better to lose the race than lose 6 months of riding.
bladedspokes 2 years ago