Wow, luckily the pedal didnt go straight to the floor the first time. You can use less pre-positioning though, you're more than ok at 3 and 9 for the wider corners.
The SCCA taught "hand prepositioning" in their March racing school at Summit Point this year. Look into it, most race drivers do it. The goal is to keep your arms from being too twisted so when you need to make an over steer correction it's easier to control the steering wheel.
Rob mate, whoever taught you that was having a complete laugh, get your hands into the standard position and ignore such BS, you clearly can drive, don't let that plonka who taught you about "pre-positioning" make you look a fool, clearly having a laugh, seriously bad discipline mate. Pre positioning is not executed anything like you demonstrate here.
@PhantomMark Tell the SCCA. They are teaching hand pre-positioning at their racing schools. I admit I do it more than necessary in this video because I was still not completely comfortable with the technique but BSR, the track owner, requires teaching pre-positioning in their tactical driving courses.
'but i guess ur the pro" Actually I have been paid to instruct in the car for both defensive "Tactical" driving and for high performance driver education (track days) but I'm not a pro race driver, just a club racer.
I saw several drivers in this year's Monaco F1 race turn the "wheel" almost upside down in the hairpin, let go with the under hand and then push the wheel down with the free hand--both hands on the left side of the wheel. David Hobbs commented on it. Check out some high performance driving books and you'll see what I'm talking about--these techniques won't be found in a drivers' ed book though.
@robrobinette You cant compare an F1 with normal car....turning the F1 wheel to full lock will not turn the wheels themselves very much. Turning circle of an F1 car is very large, and the steering input needed to turn at low speeds is much higher than in normal cars. In F1 they need to turn the wheel for almost 180 degrees at 100 km/h to go trough a hairpin corner. Turning the wheel in normal car that much and that speed would be...well, not fun.
@riyusVids69 ur not very smart. It's called "pre-positioning" of your hands on the steering wheel. For a tight right turn your place your right hand around 12 o'clock then as you turn in you let your left hand slide on the wheel until it directly across from the other hand. This technique is taught at Bill Scott Racing and many other high performance driving schools. Even Formula 1 drivers will move their hands from the 3 and 9 for a sharp turn such as the hairpin at Monaco.
@robrobinette thats funny cuz a formula 1 steering wheel only has enough space for the hands to stay at the 3 o'clock and the 9 o'clock :s but i guess ur the pro
Nice driving there! A normal person would just tried to do the last corner and oversteer out of control. Nice cool headed decision.
Im just saying this because a friend of mine lost his brakes in his Integra R at Estoril and instead of pulling the e-break in a slow corner to spun the car and stop it, he just kept it going before crashing it to the barrier the next corner.
Well,shit happens when you abuse a street car in a circuit. A lot of newbies make this unfortunate mistake with the brakes.
Not fade, failure. The Porterfield race pads melted, the brake piston hyper-extended and the piston seal failed. My brakes were on fire when I got back to the pits.
@robrobinette so um... did u have the best Porterfield race pads they offer? race pads melting is like an epic fail that can have catastrophic results... well on Top Gear they showed the SLR where the brakes caught fire so even at the quite possibly the highest level race pads melt..?
Hey that happened to me last night in my 04 AP2 as well. I boiled my brake fluid! I was setting up for a 90 degree corner on a twisty road in NOVA when the pedal went to the floor and holy crap that was scary!. A very strong reminder to get that old fluid out of there. So you actually lost brake fluid or just overheated it?
Dude i know exactly that feeling, i was doing speed racing last sat nite, alot of breaking, ave speed was like 110, i have a 91 CRX, smoke a few subaru's, and i was feeling my breaks are getting abit soft, and after a while its getting worse. i stopped the car i could smell the pads burning. i got out and saw all of my break discs, specially the front ones are RED HOT!!! scary feeling man. i waited till they cool down and then i drove back home.
Subarus beat me? might take a little time to beat me ass face, what u a fucking indian? i smoke subarus from my CRX. if u wanna real race, come with my R34 GTR. all around brembo breaks, 1st gear at 70mph. so up ur ass with ur indian shit.
My front pads wore down to the metal, overheated the caliper piston, which melted the caliper piston seal. I lost brake pressure in the left front and right rear brakes. Engine braking and some braking from the right front and left rear slowed me enough to make the pit entrance road.
@robrobinette Why didn't you checked your brakes before driving? I was just thinking that who ever goes to track should check brakes before and maybe should have some upgrades if he/she goes driving on a track now and then.
@qettyz I did check the brakes. They were thin but there should have been enough pad left for a couple more sessions. The brake pads melted which allowed the brake piston to hyperextend which caused the piston seal to break releasing brake fluid. The brakes caught on fire from the brake fluid. I changed to Carbotech XP10 brake pads and never had another problem. I now run a big brake kit at all four corners.
more pressure on the left hand if you're turning right , more pressure on the right hand if you're turning left. basics
Sven2Perroy 2 months ago
THIS IS SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIT wheres the crash>? BORINGOINGOIGNOIGNGOIAsdfa
JackDavis16 5 months ago
Wow, luckily the pedal didnt go straight to the floor the first time. You can use less pre-positioning though, you're more than ok at 3 and 9 for the wider corners.
LAbetRacing 6 months ago
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LAbetRacing 6 months ago
The SCCA taught "hand prepositioning" in their March racing school at Summit Point this year. Look into it, most race drivers do it. The goal is to keep your arms from being too twisted so when you need to make an over steer correction it's easier to control the steering wheel.
robrobinette 6 months ago
@robrobinette yeah you're never meant to cross arms while driving/riding DERPDERP
Sven2Perroy 2 months ago
@robrobinette
Rob mate, whoever taught you that was having a complete laugh, get your hands into the standard position and ignore such BS, you clearly can drive, don't let that plonka who taught you about "pre-positioning" make you look a fool, clearly having a laugh, seriously bad discipline mate. Pre positioning is not executed anything like you demonstrate here.
PhantomMark 1 month ago
@PhantomMark Tell the SCCA. They are teaching hand pre-positioning at their racing schools. I admit I do it more than necessary in this video because I was still not completely comfortable with the technique but BSR, the track owner, requires teaching pre-positioning in their tactical driving courses.
robrobinette 1 month ago
@robrobinette when you're a good driver,you wont get loose and wont need to correct it.
KARsandJTsUSERNAME 1 month ago
@KARsandJTsUSERNAME Even top Formula 1 drivers get loose and spin.
robrobinette 1 month ago
'but i guess ur the pro" Actually I have been paid to instruct in the car for both defensive "Tactical" driving and for high performance driver education (track days) but I'm not a pro race driver, just a club racer.
robrobinette 6 months ago
I saw several drivers in this year's Monaco F1 race turn the "wheel" almost upside down in the hairpin, let go with the under hand and then push the wheel down with the free hand--both hands on the left side of the wheel. David Hobbs commented on it. Check out some high performance driving books and you'll see what I'm talking about--these techniques won't be found in a drivers' ed book though.
robrobinette 6 months ago
@robrobinette You cant compare an F1 with normal car....turning the F1 wheel to full lock will not turn the wheels themselves very much. Turning circle of an F1 car is very large, and the steering input needed to turn at low speeds is much higher than in normal cars. In F1 they need to turn the wheel for almost 180 degrees at 100 km/h to go trough a hairpin corner. Turning the wheel in normal car that much and that speed would be...well, not fun.
derbigpr500 6 months ago
good thing you were in a straight aproach or you would have been screwed.
strgzr53 6 months ago
keep ur hands on the 3 oclock and 9 oclock of the steer. ur not on the streets
riyusVids69 6 months ago
@riyusVids69 ur not very smart. It's called "pre-positioning" of your hands on the steering wheel. For a tight right turn your place your right hand around 12 o'clock then as you turn in you let your left hand slide on the wheel until it directly across from the other hand. This technique is taught at Bill Scott Racing and many other high performance driving schools. Even Formula 1 drivers will move their hands from the 3 and 9 for a sharp turn such as the hairpin at Monaco.
robrobinette 6 months ago
@robrobinette thats funny cuz a formula 1 steering wheel only has enough space for the hands to stay at the 3 o'clock and the 9 o'clock :s but i guess ur the pro
riyusVids69 6 months ago
Nice driving there! A normal person would just tried to do the last corner and oversteer out of control. Nice cool headed decision.
Im just saying this because a friend of mine lost his brakes in his Integra R at Estoril and instead of pulling the e-break in a slow corner to spun the car and stop it, he just kept it going before crashing it to the barrier the next corner.
Well,shit happens when you abuse a street car in a circuit. A lot of newbies make this unfortunate mistake with the brakes.
BallisticEVA01 7 months ago
atleast ur lucky there was a path right there and not a wall D:
INumba1Stunna 7 months ago
purtroppo i freni stock dell's2000 non sono il massimo.. anzi.... ps: bellissimo circuito
Claudio84S2K 8 months ago
what car is that???
pablonbd 8 months ago
@pablonbd I'm driving a 2001 Honda S2000
robrobinette 8 months ago
I love the "oooh, no brakes" moment followed by WOT... you either have a big set of danglies or no fear! Impressive either way...
visionit2007 9 months ago
The video was shot on Summit Point Raceway's Shenandoah Circuit. It's located 1 hour west of D.C. in the panhandle of West Virginia.
robrobinette 10 months ago
Where is this nice track?
Zubi70m 10 months ago
thank got the brake failure didnt lead to a crash, it would be a shame to hurt that S2K!
GinoJerry86 1 year ago
1:27 basta poco e si caga addosso.
ma che cazzo di pilota sei :-)
alvierik 1 year ago
1:26 nice hand reaction
vindicator2008 1 year ago
been there done that, only in loop curve.
crofrog 1 year ago
good thing you were close to the pits!!
asshatnowhere159 1 year ago
hey at least you didnt wreck!
ilovecats748 1 year ago
Hmm I'd definitely say that was "Sh*t your pants" moment. Good job saving
patmoss99 1 year ago
Honda...epic brake fade. Ask me about my S2000.
pressrolls 2 years ago
Not fade, failure. The Porterfield race pads melted, the brake piston hyper-extended and the piston seal failed. My brakes were on fire when I got back to the pits.
robrobinette 2 years ago 8
@robrobinette so um... did u have the best Porterfield race pads they offer? race pads melting is like an epic fail that can have catastrophic results... well on Top Gear they showed the SLR where the brakes caught fire so even at the quite possibly the highest level race pads melt..?
AntDX316 7 months ago
@robrobinette Last time I ever buy Porterfields! I'm sticking with my Hawks, never failed me yet.
TheArfdog 6 months ago
You didn't crash, gay video
MrBadfish2 2 years ago
@MrBadfish2 or good driver? LOL did u see ''crash'' on the tittle of the video?
Newtedgram 9 months ago
@Newtedgram
When you read brake failure.. most expect to see crashes...there was no crash.
MrBadfish2 9 months ago
@MrBadfish2 u must kidding me :p he's just a good driver, gay video? nope, pro video, stupid are u haha
Newtedgram 9 months ago
the god of monsters... quite clever name
obsidianpirate 2 years ago
so what happened? no more pad life?
cohdey 2 years ago
brake fade I reckon.
foobarturkey 2 years ago
He said the pedal went a bit soft into the corner previously, so probably brake fade.
theoriginalca7erham 2 years ago
Why is it that you have no videos of your CRX or Skyline? .
theoriginalca7erham 2 years ago
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Thank you come again!
propaghandi2 2 years ago
Convienant placement though. :)
2008gtimkv 2 years ago
Hey that happened to me last night in my 04 AP2 as well. I boiled my brake fluid! I was setting up for a 90 degree corner on a twisty road in NOVA when the pedal went to the floor and holy crap that was scary!. A very strong reminder to get that old fluid out of there. So you actually lost brake fluid or just overheated it?
rx8dude 2 years ago
I melted the left front brake pad which over heated the caliper piston and melted its seal. Fluid leaked out of the piston and caught fire.
robrobinette 2 years ago
Damn, glad you are ok. What fluid/procedure do you recommend to avoid this kind of situation in the future?
rx8dude 2 years ago
Wow, that track looks like a total blast to drive! Sign me up!
wette460 2 years ago
Dude i know exactly that feeling, i was doing speed racing last sat nite, alot of breaking, ave speed was like 110, i have a 91 CRX, smoke a few subaru's, and i was feeling my breaks are getting abit soft, and after a while its getting worse. i stopped the car i could smell the pads burning. i got out and saw all of my break discs, specially the front ones are RED HOT!!! scary feeling man. i waited till they cool down and then i drove back home.
BABYGODZILLA2009 2 years ago
And the subarus beat you mouhahahahahh, this is why we have subys! :P
propaghandi2 2 years ago
Subarus beat me? might take a little time to beat me ass face, what u a fucking indian? i smoke subarus from my CRX. if u wanna real race, come with my R34 GTR. all around brembo breaks, 1st gear at 70mph. so up ur ass with ur indian shit.
BABYGODZILLA2009 2 years ago
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propaghandi2 2 years ago
do you know what caused it? were the pads getting too thin or were they getting too hot?
exotictofu86 3 years ago
My front pads wore down to the metal, overheated the caliper piston, which melted the caliper piston seal. I lost brake pressure in the left front and right rear brakes. Engine braking and some braking from the right front and left rear slowed me enough to make the pit entrance road.
robrobinette 3 years ago
@robrobinette Why didn't you checked your brakes before driving? I was just thinking that who ever goes to track should check brakes before and maybe should have some upgrades if he/she goes driving on a track now and then.
qettyz 10 months ago
@qettyz I did check the brakes. They were thin but there should have been enough pad left for a couple more sessions. The brake pads melted which allowed the brake piston to hyperextend which caused the piston seal to break releasing brake fluid. The brakes caught on fire from the brake fluid. I changed to Carbotech XP10 brake pads and never had another problem. I now run a big brake kit at all four corners.
robrobinette 10 months ago
ur really lucky. if you have stock brakes on, get a set of brembo or wilwood. they dont fade that much like the stock
SRQshark 3 years ago
that is a nice track...
accordv6er 3 years ago 11
@accordv6er seriously...very good one, too bad its a slow car driving it...
240SSONLY 1 year ago
Yes, very fortunate!
robrobinette 3 years ago
You are pretty fortunate that it happened where it did instead of one turn before that.
e3opian 3 years ago