I do believe that people like Bush were involved but Bush isn't a very intelligent man and just a "spokesman" for other interests, very much like Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton and possibly the Big O. American needs more presidents like JFK or Jimmy Carter. To be honest I don't think being the president means you have any control at all. It is evident that all of Bush's family are part (to some degree) of this bigger cartel.
Look at Bush's grandfather Prescott Bush. Look at Standard oil and the Nazis
With the popular uprising and distrust from the public on the "official events" of 9/11, the "powers that be" (I won't say government) are trying anything and everything to ostracise people who talk about or believe the loose change version. We are told that it is unpatriotic or even acting like a terrorist to question the 9/11 commission report.
Things like the anti piracy act are just the start of sites like YouTube being heavily censored. I am amazed that this kind of stuff is still on YouTu
I thougt procters were supposed to be impartial when they are conducting opinionated discussions. Why is this hit so bias towards the loose change guys.
@robinsonjd1978 While I agree, the best answer is the loose change 'theory' is so fucking ludicrous that even he cant hold back from throwing a few comments here and there. It is what it is.
Go back to bed, America. Your government has figured out how it all transpired. Go back to bed, America. Your government is in control again. Here. Here's American Gladiators. Watch this, shut up. Go back to bed, America. Here is American Gladiators. Here is 56 channels of it! Watch these pituitary retards bang their fucking skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom. Here you go, America! You are free to do as we tell you! You are free to do what we tell you!
They got on with popular mechanics, with two people who obviously weren't used to the public spotlight, and laughed at them, made snide comments, and were heavily controversial. Then they get on with him, they try to, but he shuts them down... Hard. It's great.
Of course 9/11 was NOT done by arab islamists alone!
The symmetrical, accelerating collapse through the path of greatest resistance of the THREE WTC skyscrapers is the best clue: The towers had to have been prepared, manipulated before.
The mindless sheeple are those who only listen to one side of the story. If you only watch conpiracy videos and don't look at the debunking videos then you are a mindless sheeple. I'm so tired of hearing conspirasists telling everyone to wake up. No you wake up!
dylan gives up around minute 3 of this. then just painfully listens to his apparently misinformed partner make claims that continually get shut down. then @8:40 he decides "hey if you cant beat them, join them"
i used to believe in this crap, but then i grew up and realized that you can be critical of your government without believing every conspiracy theory you hear. That's the problem with truthers. They think that if they don't believe the CT, they become one of the "mindless sheeple".
What is thermite residue doing in every sample of dust tested!?!? How did GRAVITY turn 2 110-story buildings comprised of steel & concrete into DUST!?!? How did all 3 buildings come down at nearly free-fall speed through the path of most resistance!?!?!? There's just too many signs all pointing to our federal government!!! It sucks, yeah, it really does, but you can't ignore the facts just because its implications r ugly!!!
@RHallman321 You have watched too many Youtube conspiracy videos, friend. None of your claims are true. Go ahead now and fact check them from other sources than you have. Start with the "nearly free-fall"-speed thing and then get back to this thread. Just as an experiment.
Because a structurally weak building isn't going to support a large chuck of its severed self. Its not hard to put two and two together. As fro thermite, the materials needed to make thermite were all in WTC from computers, the walls, the plane and the building itself add that with a giant fire. BAM you get thermite.
If you do some research all of the conspiracy theories fall apart.
2:31 He was picking up remains on phis hands & knees?? Where the fuck are the remains? He said there were none there? Fucking asshole-Don't you know when someone is told to CHANGE HIS STORY DUMMY?
April Gallop was told by the FBI to change her story too but she said fuck you.
FIRST LOOSE CHANGE WAS ABOUT BASIC QUESTIONS UNANSWERED AND SOME BASELESS INFO, BUT IT HAD SOME MAJOR UNDENIABLE AND ACCURATE FACTS. NOW WITH EACH UPFRONT LIE AND UNTRUE EXPLANATIONS, THESE LOOSE CHANGE GUYS ARE COMING UP WITH MORE CONCRETE AND HARD HITTING FACTS. THEY WONT STOP UNTIL THE TRUTH GETS OUT REG THE COVER UP.
This asshole Mark Roberts is a "LIVING TROLL" who used to track down where these guys would be speaking & showed up to supposedly "debunk" what they were saying.
@ed11561 cruising speed of planes is around that 500-600mph mark. I don't think the terrorist driving the plane slowed down while he was crashing it. Especially since people were breaking into the cockpit to stop them.
Especially since people were breaking into the cockpit to stop them.ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF of that ridiculous statement.NONE.
Nothing of the government story makes any sense whatsoever.They r all lying scumbag bastards.
Bush had plans on his desk to sign 9/10/01 to attack IRAQ -awaiting his return from Florida. This was all planned by the Penta-con & US intelligence, The self attack on the pentagon was used to dispell them as the terrorists.
@ed11561@ed11561 Just googling 757 Speed will give max. and economical cruising speeds for Boeing airliners. The 757 which crashed in Shanksville is listed as able to reach 914km/h = 567mp/h top speed - 850kmh = 528mph economical speed.
As for the evidence of passengers breaking into the cockpit, there are phone calls and ATC tapes in contact with the plane which prove this.
@McGrailyo 528mph economical speed- That's also at a much higher altitude.The lower the flight path,the slower you go. there are phone calls and ATC tapes in contact with the plane which prove this. HORSESHIT LIES-NOTHING WAS PROVEN.As a matter of fact alot of them were debunked as rubbish.Some totally impossible.And the others could have been made by various means-especially if you work for the "intelligence"community.That ARAB PHONE CALL could have come from ANYWHERE.Not proof of anything.
the video shows they did divert the wrong plane, that doesn't prove that 93 was a government coverup - the woman who was on that plane even said 'It's hard for people to accept a simple explanation, there has to be something more.' And of course you're supposed to go slower as you near the ground, but if the plane was deliberately crashed then it wouldn't have slowed down - thus why there was a giant crater in Shanksville from the plane.
@McGrailyo thus why there was a giant crater in Shanksville from the plane. LOL ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING? LOL HAHAHAHA There is NO GIANT CRATER in Shankesville whatsoever.That shows what moronic lies you believe.haha
There are a dozen films on utube that show the SMALL HOLE with NOTHING IN IT. hahaha DOZENS.
watch?v=_tTiUtgJPy0&feature=related
hole was 15-20 FEET & 10 FEET WIDE. So 20X10 IS NOT A BIG HOLE TROLL. LOL
watch?v=yNVcTIo9y9A The hole was there b4 911-after they covered it up.
@ed11561 And you also take any evidence I call against your argument as immediate lie? That just shows how unreasonable you are. Fragments of the plane were recovered, as well as the Black Box, which contains all ATC recordings to and from that plane, and phone conversations between passengers and family members - which can be done even from high altitude - and finally the passengers remains. You tell me that voice recordings prove nothing, but a diverted plane proves everything. Troll.
@McGrailyo And you also take any evidence I call against your argument as immediate lie? I'VE FORGOTTEN MORE ABOUT 911 THAN YOU WILL EVER KNOW. I've researched it for YEARS,reading many many books,films,seminars,spoke to people from the Pentagon,etc.,etc.
Your "facts" are grade 101 debunked nonsense.A diverted plane proves nothing SCHMUCK. There were 2000 diverted planes on 911 dickweed. hahahahaha
@McGrailyo and phone conversations between passengers and family members - which can be done even from high altitude - BULLSHIT LIE- NO CELL CALLS COULD HAVE BEEN MADE AT THAT HEIGHT & ALSO NOT IN FUCKING SHANKESVILLE or b4 it.
Provide each 1 & i will destroy the so called EVIDENCE. lol
You're just repeating bullshit LIES that have been debunked.Provide the actual tapes or PROOF or SOURCE, you're just telling me general horseshit.THE PLANE WAS SHOT DOWN-Even RUMSFELD said that. hahaha
@ed11561 you say you've spent years researching this, but obviously you never looked outside your own asshole for much of the evidence, because its all bullshit.
The only evidence you have come up with is HAHA LIAR IM RIGHT AND YOU'RE AN IDIOT. Id get a more reasonable debate from a 10 year old.
Calls can be made from high altitude, google it yourself - it wont take long to find that out.
@McGrailyo but obviously you never looked outside your own asshole for much of the evidence-OBVIOUSLY I HAVE BECAUSE I'VE TALKED TO ASSHOLES LIKE YOU WHO ONLY RESEARCH WHAT THEY WANT TO. HAHAH
Calls can be made from high altitude-NOT IN 2001 ASSHOLE.
And calls they say they made from seat back phones-the planes they referred to didn't have seat back phones dickwad.
Hi MOM-It's me Mark Bingham.YOU BELIEVE ME DON'T YOU? ROTFLMFAO.LOL HAHAHAHA
Small difference between open field plane crashes and the plane crash at the pentagon. They didnt crash into a reinforced concrete building. They also werent trying to plunge into the ground. In open field plane crashes the pilots usually try to save the plane. That quite the big difference.
Goto 4.30ish, approximately. Notice the host is blinking whilst jason is speaking. That is a mind war on jason through telepathic download. Now, wtf I can already feel you thinking.
Don't think, observe, then draw conclusions basewd upon visible evidence. Its how a trial laywer works with facts in a court setting, or they're supposed to.
check the evidence of how they have fucked us over for thousands of years.
@unclesamsnephew666 Ummm are you kidding? One of the engines was missing, and the hole was too small duh controlled demolition! Oh never mind, sorry, I'm confusing my bullshit ;)
if you did your own research ou will still find pieces of the plane left around he pentagon. whether the pieces were fake or not. who knows. which is why the pentagon crash is so suspect. where the hell is the rest of the plane!? like I said before...a plane will never completely disintegrate on impact with anything. thats why boein makes their planes with hydrocarbon AND NOT FREAKING STYROFOAM, bitch! pwned, fag.
@Afghanistam I could make a model airplane out of the same material of the real one, throw it against a brick wall and watch it fly in 129819397 pieces all over the place.......You make it seem like the plane should just be in 2 or 3 pieces or something lol "pwned fag!" ha
oky, sugar tits. it really depends on what you mean here. when he towers fell, there was nothing left but bits of steel and concete (tha was the dust cloud you see after the buildings fell). everything else was turned into microscopic pieces of steel and glass and drywall. no chairs left, no computers, no human remains. the EPA claims they have never seen anything like it. so of course if steel will be reduced to dust in the collapse, what remained of the plane would too....continued...
"when he towers fell, there was nothing left but bits of steel and concete (tha was the dust cloud you see after the buildings fell). everything else was turned into microscopic pieces of steel and glass and drywall"
you're an idiot. there are 100s of pictures that prove this moronic statement false.
What Mr Bermas fails to understand is the plane was flying upside down at a 45 or 90 degree angle so therefore the plane would have impacted nose first which would have disintegrated upon contact. On most crash landings the pilot will try and belly land the plane. This is simple common sense something Mr Bermas and his Loose Change colleagues fail to understand.
@Afghanistam Hey Einstein, what happened to the planes that his the towers? They disintegrated, and so did the the plane at the Pentagon. Do your research/
this bald guy ,talking out of his ass!!he is trying to say all these exsperts are saying they found and found all that wreakage. after the govt talk to allllll of them!! get real!!if the cia threaten you , you would change your story too!! its not the first time. .......
they dont like young people telling them want to do or want makes more sense! bill gates and that guy from face book. ps they are alot richer than all you loser who dont belive 911 was a blood money scam!!!
This guy Jason looks like your standard college party frat boy dumbass. He has no buisness talking about the physics of something as complicated as a plane crash. His and Dylans contentions are all arguments from ignorance.
I've seen a couple of these 911 debates and noticed that the hosts have the power to lead the debates in whatever direction they desire..... Clever ... I like that:)
@Born2Flesh if it was an inside job and the reason behind it was to go after iraq, why were the hijackers saudis and not iraqis or afagans, saudia arbia is an ally, why not say the hijackers were iraqis, you know why, because 9/11 was planned by a bunch of well funded religious nutjobs who want to see the west burn because they think we are responible for their problems, the simplest answer is usually correct, if it was an inside job , then these 2 genius wouldnt be alive today,
i wish there was more video of these loose bullshit guys getting owned. it's entertaining as fuck.
they dressed up better this time and dude tries to keep his cool better. guy in the middle seems like he doesn't even want to really get involved with it anymore. hilarious.
To answer the claim that we can see TWA 800 but not Flight 93. TWA was offically classified as an accident, Flight 93 is a criminal investigation. I think that the FBI TSA, and police protocol regarding realese of information.
It seems that Jason Bermas takes a McCarthyism approach to his debate. It just takes him to be placed out of his comfort zone for him to lose his credibility.
If you ever decide you want a RATIONAL description of how the plutocrats are controlling us read Chris Hedges. If you want one that's spot on but funny watch George Carlin videos.
Jason doesn't expect to see plane remains when the plane hits a building.... Except for the Pentagon, anything other than the whole thing, in his eyes, points directly to a missile!
Those two self-indulgent 'heroes' are causing more damage than any terrorist ever could.
The fact that flight 93 crashed in a field is irrelevant as to what happened on 911 and who was behind it. What is interesting is what brought flight 93 down. The lack of public exposure to the evidence (i.e. the plane wreckage in the hanger) means we have no way of knowing.
Any idiot can open Google earth, find Shanksville crash site, then slide the TIME slider back to 1994 and you can SEE the gash they used as where the plane hit is THERE, Yes in 1994 the mark in the earth is there.
So clowns do it and let me know what you think lol.
ITs also ridiculous that a plane disappearing into the earth by crashing that ALL the people on board were identified but all 4 black boxes didn't survive.
Compare 93 to other crash sites. Let's use Logic and Reasoning although I know my attempts will be in vain towards the Twoofers. 93 was going down at 45 degrees almost 90 from some Eye Witnesses at 500+mph. It was meant to go down hard. All of the other crash sites had pilot's trying to land it slowly you know like at approach speeds and not full throttled and safely. I rest my case.
@dasschleg well the problem with this is i posted this over two months ago and i no longer care, but it was funny to me because these guys are not only getting debunked on tv there also debunking each other. i give you the "truth" movement in all its hilarity.
@Zero2Legend They are getting debunked, but they're correcting each other to make sure they get their facts straight, or what they percieve as straight.
@dasschleg it was just funny to me that even they fumble on each other and jason either dosent know what the hell he's talking about half the time or actually makes shit up about stuff thats already been proven false. thats all, it wasnt an actual valid point about anything i was trying to make, just throwing an "lol" at them for being stupid in my opinion. i just dont like them man lol
Hey.I just had an epiphany.Maybe these guys don't think religious faith is capable of something like 911.In a sense they are protecting there own faith(W/e it may be).
How can they put vaporised metal in a hangar? These guys don't seem to know the difference between a mid-air break-up and a plane that flew directly into the ground at hundreds of miles an hour. They are being intrinsically illogical.
@voiceofreason467 wise comment and I fully agree with you! the most disrespectful thing to the families and those who died in 911 is that all the evidences were illegally removed from the crime scene and destroyed before any criminal investigation was conducted and never was ever since! the FBI website don't mention the 9/11 events in Osama Bin Laden's most wanted page because "there is no hard evidence conneting bin laden to 9/11 events" (Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for FBI 2006)
Dylan is acting very strange here...calling themselves 'kids' who were tackling questions that they shouldn't have....what? My question is: who got to him?
@quidseeker C.I.A Ninjas i reckon..or you could watch them being shown to be a couple of kids being schooled on the debate with Popular Mechanics >>>>>>>
@HowCanSheSlap1983 Have you even watched the film? They cite many scientific sources including experts in the fields of metalurgy, physics and ballistics. How is that unscientific? Oh, because you read Us Weekly and Cosmopolitan and think you are informed, inbetween the perfume ads? Puhlez, I'm not convinced.
@quidseeker Science doesn't work that way. By your fucked-up logic, working out what 2+2 equals by simply mashing your hand on a calculator is perfectly accurate, as a calculator was used.
@crismmercado Yea you can see Dylan sqirming everytime his college buddy talks. Hes like the crazy fanatical suicide bomber muslim of loose change. ALLuuuuuuu Akkka -loooooose changeeeeeee.
How could we give credit to the official story if all the evidences from GZ were destroyed before any criminal investigation was made?if the surveillance cameras' tapes that caught the pentagon's attack were confiscated by the FBI and the five frames video released shows NO evidence of a 757? NIST admitted that they're "unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse",they "did not test for the presence of explosive residue and such tests would not necessarily have been conclusive" ?
Steel loses half of it's strength at 600° C 1,100° F
No steel building has ever collapsed from fire until 3 of them did on 9/11. For a building to collapse in this fashion the core columns need to be severed at the bottom, hence the explosions and thermite found in the basement levels.
Iron oxide thermite reaction: 2500 °C 4500 °F will do the job easily.
There were 3 buildings that collapsed in identical fashion. This implies a controlled environment, not a chaotic environment. Jet fuel cannot burn hot enough to damage or weaken steel. If they recovered bodies from the pentagon plane crash, why couldn't they find the 6 ton engines? Not a single drop of blood was ever found in Shanksville. Why are several of the 9/11 hijackers still alive? Bush said he saw the first plane crash on TV 9/11 morning when it was not on tv until the next day.
@ultradeth7 Steel loses half of it's strength at 650 degrees Celcius. The fires burned at 700-1000 degrees Celcius. That just debunked your "jet fuel cannot burn hot enough to damage or weaken steel" theory. (Shanskville)Let's see the plane hit the ground at a 45 degree angle going at 580mph(850 feet per second), and you expect to see bodies intact and plane engines? Are you stupid?
@strongman325 hi! i don't know if you're aware of the fact that a 757 CANNOT fly the reported speed (580mph) without its structure being heavily damaged (wings breaking...) before even reaching the ground! for this you may ask every 757 pilot about the Vmo/Mmo and Vne speed and search for the air crash of Egypt Air EA990
@sadnane What you say is misleading. The max cruise speed of a Boeing 757 is 568 mph, meaning that that is the highest speed it can fly without any kind of overstressing. If it flew over 600 miles per hour for 1-2 hours the plane would probably be damaged, maybe the wings could have broken off. But it can definitely achieve a speed of 580mph and maintain it for quite some time without it's wings breaking off, the suicide pilots didn't care about overstressing so that's out of the equation.
@strongman325 you got it right when you said that the max CRUISE speed is 568mph, so that speed may only be achieved at cruise level but the lower you get, the denser the air gets and the lower the max speed is! the Vmo at or near sea level is 369 knots! it differs from the Mmo at cruise level! look for the equivalent air speed (EAS) to have a better idea about it ...
what kind of fire vaporizes, acording to the oficial story, aluminum and tempered steel, more than 6 tons, but yet leave human remains intact? thank you
I wish they'd have these talks between the Loose Change guys and a rational, observant person (a lawyer, perhaps) who hasn't been convinced either way. Nothing useful comes out of the above black vs white set-up.
@Seigu007 - Nah, Ill leave that to the people that have videos of spitting goats amoung their favourites and respond to people the don't agree with "shut the fuck up loser", while simoultaneously swanning round youtube pompously trying to emit an air of intellectual superiority. If you've got nothing relevant to say, or can't put forward an opposing theory then..............how would a philosopher put it..............."Shut the fuck up loser"
@snoopblair Really son, is that what you think? How about when the press released information on WTC7 collapsing early when it still stood?
Just ONE of the many many situations that leaves no other room but for common sense to show that this was a successful false flag operation. Just ONE, but I'll leave you to watch Loose Change to question the rest. Now go sit in the corner with you and your one video of some dogs and shut up.
why would they conspire to crash a plane into a field either way? Surely the fact is that the hijackers lost control or got overtaken by passengers, and that caused the crash? I agree, it's odd that there was no visible debris that you'd expect, but I don't know why they'd lie about it a plane crashing into a field... it makes no sense or motive.
The argument between thesis and an antithesis, when engaged in dialectic inquiry, will result in finding the truth, if both parties are willing to decenter from their nucleus and are honest to the reality. After all there will be no winner in war when innocent people are dying. However there has to be an accountable entity behind every happenings.
You gotta respect these kids for agreeing to go on public tv to be embarrassed this badly... I wouldn't dare debate a real scientist with real evidence if i had made a documentary which i had edited and re-released several times to correct the multitude of false evidence in it. These boys have a lot of courage! In fact, we should call THEM the heroes of 9/11
The person who wrote the truthers are the same as someone who denied the holocaust occured. Turn that statement around, look at what you're denying, and you also made the statement that in 30 years we'll be looked on upon as crazys. The #'s of people who denied the holocaust occured in the 1950s was much greater than 1980s meaning your denial of this is what may belooked on upon as crazy...If you dont believe govt would do this researc OPERATION NORTHWOODS, admitted by Gov signed by Joint Chiefs
These two older guys, younger than me though, cough cough, are so obviously shills. I've seen all of the films. ALL of them. I don't listen to either side. What I see with my eyes tells me this is the most obvious inside job. 1000's of lies. No film from pentagon saying it's national security. What a joke. They use the word "conspiracist" every opportunity. This is a disgrace. This is not a debate. The moderator is beyond belief. BEYOND belief. Humans can be pure trash. evil trash.
Loose Change in the video they said FBI, CIA and ect say that it was 16 or so hijackers and they also said all of them died in the plane crash when 9 of them was found alive in different stats, places and even half way around the world.
@itloads True is that some beautiful minds pick up lots of world data and some physics are just intuitive for them. 911 was an obvious demolition... within seconds its obvious. I'm amused just seeing how people need to be convinced of things they just can't hold in their heads...
You don't need to protest, or riot, or sob, or cry just stop watching 911 videos and know that yes... they plan the whole thing from inside.
@bigtap03 I'll believe anything the evidence points to. So far the evidence points solely to it not being an inside job. That's the difference between conspiracy theorists and rational people - the rational will believe whatever the evidence points to. Conspiracy theorists will only believe in their pet theories.
The fact that these Loose Change jackasses are still alive and still free to debate about this subject kind of puts a damper on the whole "no one came forward about 9/11 because they were threatened!" theory. If any of this bullshit was true, the government would have shut down their little project the instant they got wind of it, threatening them or their families if they didn't keep quiet.
None of the conspiracy theories about 9/11 hold water.
i think these guys really didn't do their homework on some of the points but to say that the entire thing was legit as an attack is bullcrap. There is A LOT of unexplainable occurances surrounding the entire tragedy that points to an inside job. Just because the government does an inside investigation doesn't constitute evidence of findings. These two guys are kids and don't belong here but many other researchers have solid proof. The moderator here is not a moderator.
Also too. Don't you think if the thing was a set up that the person executing would create an occurance that would produce evidence? So the plain crashes and people are found along with wreckage, great ! Shouldn't the bigger issue be who crashed the plane and who they were tied to? If I hired the terrorist to crash the plane the after effects would be debris and dead bodies but I was the one who hired them. I think they went after the wrong focus when they made the film but the right direction.
@stanfan27 All of that so-called 'evidence' is total crap. I've yet to see a single piece of 'solid proof' for an inside job, and I've done a LOT of research on 9/11 and the conspiracy theories. If you have some magical, super-secret evidence that no one has seen, feel free to share it with the rest of the class.
@sciencealwayswins I love Youtube because everybody is a f*ckin expert all of a sudden. Take for instance an a**hole like you. If you haven't read, seen or heard any convincing arguments from the loads of information out there then that's your problem. If the buildings crashing down in implosion style instead of how they would have truly fell, if at all, wasn't enough for you then you just a suck a** that likes to come on here with keyboard muscles. Science may win but you sure don't.
@stanfan27 I love how you conspiracy theorists always project onto other people. Unlike you, I happen to know enough about physics to recognize that the way the towers fell was:
A) Nothing at all like a controlled demolition.
and
B) Completely compatible with the official story.
What, do you think it should have just toppled over on its side? Go do some research on the "pancake effect" and the way the towers were structured before you parrot the bullshit you've read on conspiracy sites.
A) This wasn't a traditional controlled demolition. It was designed to make it coincide with the laughable and fictitious "magic cupcake theory." Government twoofers are usually too inept to realize this.
B) The fire fighter at the beginning of this video describes the collapse as of the buildings with the statement,"It was if they had detonators planted to take down a building." This adds credility to the demolition hypothesis:
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I do believe that people like Bush were involved but Bush isn't a very intelligent man and just a "spokesman" for other interests, very much like Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton and possibly the Big O. American needs more presidents like JFK or Jimmy Carter. To be honest I don't think being the president means you have any control at all. It is evident that all of Bush's family are part (to some degree) of this bigger cartel.
Look at Bush's grandfather Prescott Bush. Look at Standard oil and the Nazis
ShaneWilliamsHitler 1 week ago
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With the popular uprising and distrust from the public on the "official events" of 9/11, the "powers that be" (I won't say government) are trying anything and everything to ostracise people who talk about or believe the loose change version. We are told that it is unpatriotic or even acting like a terrorist to question the 9/11 commission report.
Things like the anti piracy act are just the start of sites like YouTube being heavily censored. I am amazed that this kind of stuff is still on YouTu
ShaneWilliamsHitler 1 week ago
I thougt procters were supposed to be impartial when they are conducting opinionated discussions. Why is this hit so bias towards the loose change guys.
robinsonjd1978 3 weeks ago
@robinsonjd1978 While I agree, the best answer is the loose change 'theory' is so fucking ludicrous that even he cant hold back from throwing a few comments here and there. It is what it is.
SRTtoZ 2 weeks ago
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Conspiracy is the new stupid fucking religion.. Everyone who don't believe are part of the conspiracy.. Hmm, reminds me of God and the devil?
samuelsson91 3 weeks ago
These two are totally fucking brainless. It's unbelievable how thick headed they are. It's actually literally disgusting.
JohnnieNaked 3 months ago 3
@JohnnieNaked r u a fuking jew?if so go fuk ur self with ur dead dads cock
bakerjay138 3 months ago
the govt hires really good spokesmen
666VitaminE 3 months ago
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Go back to bed, America. Your government has figured out how it all transpired. Go back to bed, America. Your government is in control again. Here. Here's American Gladiators. Watch this, shut up. Go back to bed, America. Here is American Gladiators. Here is 56 channels of it! Watch these pituitary retards bang their fucking skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom. Here you go, America! You are free to do as we tell you! You are free to do what we tell you!
kajjagoogoo 4 months ago
They got on with popular mechanics, with two people who obviously weren't used to the public spotlight, and laughed at them, made snide comments, and were heavily controversial. Then they get on with him, they try to, but he shuts them down... Hard. It's great.
MrRiktheDik 4 months ago
I bet these two idiots thinks that michael moore is god
dodotlive 4 months ago
Of course 9/11 was NOT done by arab islamists alone!
The symmetrical, accelerating collapse through the path of greatest resistance of the THREE WTC skyscrapers is the best clue: The towers had to have been prepared, manipulated before.
RummelsdorfLabs 4 months ago
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StaplerFace123 4 months ago
911 is made up by the government
xBatel 4 months ago
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megamogx 4 months ago
The mindless sheeple are those who only listen to one side of the story. If you only watch conpiracy videos and don't look at the debunking videos then you are a mindless sheeple. I'm so tired of hearing conspirasists telling everyone to wake up. No you wake up!
TheBairdo 4 months ago
8:40 LMAO "Oh that was later disproven? Yes, that was later disproven." Those stupid fucks XD
Ilovepineapple420 4 months ago
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Ilovepineapple420 4 months ago
dylan gives up around minute 3 of this. then just painfully listens to his apparently misinformed partner make claims that continually get shut down. then @8:40 he decides "hey if you cant beat them, join them"
breener24 4 months ago
i used to believe in this crap, but then i grew up and realized that you can be critical of your government without believing every conspiracy theory you hear. That's the problem with truthers. They think that if they don't believe the CT, they become one of the "mindless sheeple".
undernorm 4 months ago
every time i see these idiots they get owned its awesome
TheRamboRabbit 4 months ago
These idiots are honestly laughable. How can any rational person buy into their nonsense? I mean it's not even remotely believable.
JohnGolbunny 4 months ago
=3 they got screwed lol
TheDrakaan 4 months ago
What is thermite residue doing in every sample of dust tested!?!? How did GRAVITY turn 2 110-story buildings comprised of steel & concrete into DUST!?!? How did all 3 buildings come down at nearly free-fall speed through the path of most resistance!?!?!? There's just too many signs all pointing to our federal government!!! It sucks, yeah, it really does, but you can't ignore the facts just because its implications r ugly!!!
RHallman321 5 months ago
@RHallman321 You have watched too many Youtube conspiracy videos, friend. None of your claims are true. Go ahead now and fact check them from other sources than you have. Start with the "nearly free-fall"-speed thing and then get back to this thread. Just as an experiment.
erikssonjonas10 5 months ago 2
@RHallman321
Because a structurally weak building isn't going to support a large chuck of its severed self. Its not hard to put two and two together. As fro thermite, the materials needed to make thermite were all in WTC from computers, the walls, the plane and the building itself add that with a giant fire. BAM you get thermite.
If you do some research all of the conspiracy theories fall apart.
AndyV002 4 months ago
watch?v=dOXNrsv5HRQ That's what a plane looks like when it's shot down.
watch?v=_tTiUtgJPy0&feature=channel_video_title Plane is spreadout over a 3 to 4 mile area. NOT IN ANY FUCKING LITTLE HOLE. lol
"tiny bits of debris-nothing larger than a phonebook." lol "Looks like there is NOTHING THERE."
watch?v=3V9MD15qs5s "SHOT DOWN THE PLANE OVER PENNSYLVANIA."
What fucking part do you not get? lol hahahaha
"How little debris is visisble."Tiny.tiny,bits of debris.Is not a 300TON AIRPLANE.
ed11561 6 months ago
Mark Bingham- HI MOM IT'S MARK BINGHAM...YOU BELIEVE ME DON'T YOU? LOL
TWICE. You believe me right mom?
ed11561 6 months ago
2:31 He was picking up remains on phis hands & knees?? Where the fuck are the remains? He said there were none there? Fucking asshole-Don't you know when someone is told to CHANGE HIS STORY DUMMY?
April Gallop was told by the FBI to change her story too but she said fuck you.
ed11561 6 months ago
How can they have this BIASED SCUMBAG running the interviews? sheer stupidity..
ed11561 6 months ago
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FIRST LOOSE CHANGE WAS ABOUT BASIC QUESTIONS UNANSWERED AND SOME BASELESS INFO, BUT IT HAD SOME MAJOR UNDENIABLE AND ACCURATE FACTS. NOW WITH EACH UPFRONT LIE AND UNTRUE EXPLANATIONS, THESE LOOSE CHANGE GUYS ARE COMING UP WITH MORE CONCRETE AND HARD HITTING FACTS. THEY WONT STOP UNTIL THE TRUTH GETS OUT REG THE COVER UP.
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007Zoltar 6 months ago
This asshole Mark Roberts is a "LIVING TROLL" who used to track down where these guys would be speaking & showed up to supposedly "debunk" what they were saying.
A PAID FUCKING GOVERNMENT TROLL BITCHBOY.
ed11561 6 months ago
watch?v=o3LJXoXpAHE&feature=channel_video_title
FLIGHT 93 WAS BROUGHT DOWN BY MISSILES ASK RUMSFELD & HIS BUDDIES.
ed11561 6 months ago
580MPH???? :49 MARK ROBERTS YOU FUCKING GOVERNMENT SHILLTARD.
PROVE THAT ASSHOLE SHOW ME THE SOURCE FOR THAT NUMBER.
Fucking LIAR.
ed11561 6 months ago
@ed11561 cruising speed of planes is around that 500-600mph mark. I don't think the terrorist driving the plane slowed down while he was crashing it. Especially since people were breaking into the cockpit to stop them.
McGrailyo 6 months ago
@McGrailyo 600mph mark-WRONG
Especially since people were breaking into the cockpit to stop them.ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF of that ridiculous statement.NONE.
Nothing of the government story makes any sense whatsoever.They r all lying scumbag bastards.
Bush had plans on his desk to sign 9/10/01 to attack IRAQ -awaiting his return from Florida. This was all planned by the Penta-con & US intelligence, The self attack on the pentagon was used to dispell them as the terrorists.
ed11561 6 months ago
@ed11561 @ed11561 Just googling 757 Speed will give max. and economical cruising speeds for Boeing airliners. The 757 which crashed in Shanksville is listed as able to reach 914km/h = 567mp/h top speed - 850kmh = 528mph economical speed.
As for the evidence of passengers breaking into the cockpit, there are phone calls and ATC tapes in contact with the plane which prove this.
/watch?v=apLc6izfNj0&feature=related
McGrailyo 6 months ago
@McGrailyo 528mph economical speed- That's also at a much higher altitude.The lower the flight path,the slower you go. there are phone calls and ATC tapes in contact with the plane which prove this. HORSESHIT LIES-NOTHING WAS PROVEN.As a matter of fact alot of them were debunked as rubbish.Some totally impossible.And the others could have been made by various means-especially if you work for the "intelligence"community.That ARAB PHONE CALL could have come from ANYWHERE.Not proof of anything.
ed11561 6 months ago
@McGrailyo watch?v=3Q8uKcVbr9w&feature=related
1 VERY LARGE INTELLIGENCE OPERATION.
ed11561 6 months ago
@ed11561 wait i'm sorry, am I reading this right?
the video shows they did divert the wrong plane, that doesn't prove that 93 was a government coverup - the woman who was on that plane even said 'It's hard for people to accept a simple explanation, there has to be something more.' And of course you're supposed to go slower as you near the ground, but if the plane was deliberately crashed then it wouldn't have slowed down - thus why there was a giant crater in Shanksville from the plane.
McGrailyo 6 months ago
@McGrailyo thus why there was a giant crater in Shanksville from the plane. LOL ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING? LOL HAHAHAHA There is NO GIANT CRATER in Shankesville whatsoever.That shows what moronic lies you believe.haha
There are a dozen films on utube that show the SMALL HOLE with NOTHING IN IT. hahaha DOZENS.
watch?v=_tTiUtgJPy0&feature=related
hole was 15-20 FEET & 10 FEET WIDE. So 20X10 IS NOT A BIG HOLE TROLL. LOL
watch?v=yNVcTIo9y9A The hole was there b4 911-after they covered it up.
ed11561 6 months ago
@ed11561 And you also take any evidence I call against your argument as immediate lie? That just shows how unreasonable you are. Fragments of the plane were recovered, as well as the Black Box, which contains all ATC recordings to and from that plane, and phone conversations between passengers and family members - which can be done even from high altitude - and finally the passengers remains. You tell me that voice recordings prove nothing, but a diverted plane proves everything. Troll.
McGrailyo 6 months ago
@McGrailyo And you also take any evidence I call against your argument as immediate lie? I'VE FORGOTTEN MORE ABOUT 911 THAN YOU WILL EVER KNOW. I've researched it for YEARS,reading many many books,films,seminars,spoke to people from the Pentagon,etc.,etc.
Your "facts" are grade 101 debunked nonsense.A diverted plane proves nothing SCHMUCK. There were 2000 diverted planes on 911 dickweed. hahahahaha
ed11561 6 months ago
@McGrailyo and phone conversations between passengers and family members - which can be done even from high altitude - BULLSHIT LIE- NO CELL CALLS COULD HAVE BEEN MADE AT THAT HEIGHT & ALSO NOT IN FUCKING SHANKESVILLE or b4 it.
Provide each 1 & i will destroy the so called EVIDENCE. lol
You're just repeating bullshit LIES that have been debunked.Provide the actual tapes or PROOF or SOURCE, you're just telling me general horseshit.THE PLANE WAS SHOT DOWN-Even RUMSFELD said that. hahaha
ed11561 6 months ago
@ed11561 you say you've spent years researching this, but obviously you never looked outside your own asshole for much of the evidence, because its all bullshit.
The only evidence you have come up with is HAHA LIAR IM RIGHT AND YOU'RE AN IDIOT. Id get a more reasonable debate from a 10 year old.
Calls can be made from high altitude, google it yourself - it wont take long to find that out.
I can't reason with you, so don't reply.
/watch?v=kxsmhnZeM6w&feature=related
McGrailyo 6 months ago
@McGrailyo but obviously you never looked outside your own asshole for much of the evidence-OBVIOUSLY I HAVE BECAUSE I'VE TALKED TO ASSHOLES LIKE YOU WHO ONLY RESEARCH WHAT THEY WANT TO. HAHAH
Calls can be made from high altitude-NOT IN 2001 ASSHOLE.
And calls they say they made from seat back phones-the planes they referred to didn't have seat back phones dickwad.
Hi MOM-It's me Mark Bingham.YOU BELIEVE ME DON'T YOU? ROTFLMFAO.LOL HAHAHAHA
You can't reason with HORSESHIT.So fuck off LIAR.
ed11561 6 months ago
@McGrailyo watch?v=dOXNrsv5HRQ That's what a plane looks like when it's shot down.
watch?v=_tTiUtgJPy0&feature=channel_video_title Plane is spreadout over a 3 to 4 mile area. NOT IN ANY FUCKING LITTLE HOLE. lol
"tiny bits of debris-nothing larger than a phonebook." lol "Looks like there is NOTHING THERE."
watch?v=3V9MD15qs5s "SHOT DOWN THE PLANE OVER PENNSYLVANIA."
What fucking part do you not get?
"How little debris is visisble."Tiny.tiny,bits of debris.Is not a 300TON AIRPLANE
ed11561 6 months ago
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Who the fuck is this asshole IMPARTIAL HOST? Constantly interrupting & TOTALLY BIASED.
douchebag.
ed11561 6 months ago
Small difference between open field plane crashes and the plane crash at the pentagon. They didnt crash into a reinforced concrete building. They also werent trying to plunge into the ground. In open field plane crashes the pilots usually try to save the plane. That quite the big difference.
GiantPoopingMonkey 6 months ago
For top quality witnesses experts and analysis watch
ZERO: AN INVESTIGATION INTO 9/11
watch?v=8XRMrMdn0NQ
For a list of US Army veterans, Intelligence officers, architects, engineers, etc that demand a new investigation visit patriotsquestion911 (dot) com
1famekouby 6 months ago
Goto 4.30ish, approximately. Notice the host is blinking whilst jason is speaking. That is a mind war on jason through telepathic download. Now, wtf I can already feel you thinking.
Don't think, observe, then draw conclusions basewd upon visible evidence. Its how a trial laywer works with facts in a court setting, or they're supposed to.
check the evidence of how they have fucked us over for thousands of years.
/watch?v=98Yfkwnqhss
'Discourse on Persons Artificial'
jamerfunk 6 months ago
You can see the regret in Dylan's face here, the new Dylan (long hair) is still a delusional bitch.
kushsmokkeralt 6 months ago
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@unclesamsnephew666 Ummm are you kidding? One of the engines was missing, and the hole was too small duh controlled demolition! Oh never mind, sorry, I'm confusing my bullshit ;)
kushsmokkeralt 6 months ago
he said "Queen Amidala" at 9:17...Bermas what are you doing? you're bringing Star Wars into this now?
HBK344356 7 months ago
@HBK344356 Jar Jar Binks was the one behind the attacks fool, you aint know?
theBartone9119 6 months ago
look how red burmas is
HarrisonMilburn 7 months ago
if you did your own research ou will still find pieces of the plane left around he pentagon. whether the pieces were fake or not. who knows. which is why the pentagon crash is so suspect. where the hell is the rest of the plane!? like I said before...a plane will never completely disintegrate on impact with anything. thats why boein makes their planes with hydrocarbon AND NOT FREAKING STYROFOAM, bitch! pwned, fag.
Afghanistam 8 months ago
@Afghanistam I could make a model airplane out of the same material of the real one, throw it against a brick wall and watch it fly in 129819397 pieces all over the place.......You make it seem like the plane should just be in 2 or 3 pieces or something lol "pwned fag!" ha
theBartone9119 7 months ago
@Afghanistam
"where the hell is the rest of the plane!?"
you mean the one that hit the pentagon at 500 mph? what do you mean where is it? what? you expected it to bounce of it and stall on the lawn?
be honest, are you a fucking retard?
unclesamsnephew666 7 months ago
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kushsmokkeralt 6 months ago
oky, sugar tits. it really depends on what you mean here. when he towers fell, there was nothing left but bits of steel and concete (tha was the dust cloud you see after the buildings fell). everything else was turned into microscopic pieces of steel and glass and drywall. no chairs left, no computers, no human remains. the EPA claims they have never seen anything like it. so of course if steel will be reduced to dust in the collapse, what remained of the plane would too....continued...
Afghanistam 8 months ago
@Afghanistam
"when he towers fell, there was nothing left but bits of steel and concete (tha was the dust cloud you see after the buildings fell). everything else was turned into microscopic pieces of steel and glass and drywall"
you're an idiot. there are 100s of pictures that prove this moronic statement false.
truthtards...will they ever grow up?
unclesamsnephew666 7 months ago
What Mr Bermas fails to understand is the plane was flying upside down at a 45 or 90 degree angle so therefore the plane would have impacted nose first which would have disintegrated upon contact. On most crash landings the pilot will try and belly land the plane. This is simple common sense something Mr Bermas and his Loose Change colleagues fail to understand.
hornetgags 8 months ago
@hornetgags hey, genius. planes dont just disintegrate. no matter what angle it crashes. that, buddy, should be common sense.
Afghanistam 8 months ago
@Afghanistam Hey Einstein, what happened to the planes that his the towers? They disintegrated, and so did the the plane at the Pentagon. Do your research/
hornetgags 8 months ago
this bald guy ,talking out of his ass!!he is trying to say all these exsperts are saying they found and found all that wreakage. after the govt talk to allllll of them!! get real!!if the cia threaten you , you would change your story too!! its not the first time. .......
orione56567 8 months ago
they dont like young people telling them want to do or want makes more sense! bill gates and that guy from face book. ps they are alot richer than all you loser who dont belive 911 was a blood money scam!!!
orione56567 8 months ago
This guy Jason looks like your standard college party frat boy dumbass. He has no buisness talking about the physics of something as complicated as a plane crash. His and Dylans contentions are all arguments from ignorance.
thewarriorsrok 8 months ago 6
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14masonhill 4 weeks ago
I've seen a couple of these 911 debates and noticed that the hosts have the power to lead the debates in whatever direction they desire..... Clever ... I like that:)
Islandboyy02 8 months ago
Dylan Avery looks like he's gotten cold feet...
June28July 8 months ago
Jason Bermas should just shut up and go back to the pizza shop. It is a disgrace that he would use this as a means to enrich himself. Scumbag.
rpt95903 8 months ago 7
How did they match the DNA of the hijackers? Bush is a liar, and Obama is in the loop or a coward......9/11 = Inside job
Born2Flesh 9 months ago
@Born2Flesh
called process of elimination...tin head
AceofDlamonds 9 months ago
@Born2Flesh if it was an inside job and the reason behind it was to go after iraq, why were the hijackers saudis and not iraqis or afagans, saudia arbia is an ally, why not say the hijackers were iraqis, you know why, because 9/11 was planned by a bunch of well funded religious nutjobs who want to see the west burn because they think we are responible for their problems, the simplest answer is usually correct, if it was an inside job , then these 2 genius wouldnt be alive today,
packr72 7 months ago
whatever
Born2Flesh 7 months ago
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Born2Flesh 7 months ago
It seems like the moderator is making the twoothers, these Loosers, sound smart. It's making me sick lol.
AceofDlamonds 9 months ago
i wish there was more video of these loose bullshit guys getting owned. it's entertaining as fuck.
they dressed up better this time and dude tries to keep his cool better. guy in the middle seems like he doesn't even want to really get involved with it anymore. hilarious.
AtomicHercules 9 months ago 7
Mark Roberts kicks ass !! !
dachamp171 10 months ago
these kids are idiots lol
whenever conspiracy theorists are presented with facts they freak out
HarrisonMilburn 10 months ago 4
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PureRaven 10 months ago
Christ in heaven. WHY IN GOD'S NAME IS ANYONE EVEN GIVING THESE TWO KIDS THE ATTENTION??? Sweet christ. What a fucking waste of airtime.
This is the side of the internet that sucks. It gives any moron - even Dylan and his buddy - a chance to look like they have a clue. And they don't.
jjobie 10 months ago
Mark Roberts looks like he's about ready to murder.
CrimsonToast 10 months ago
To answer the claim that we can see TWA 800 but not Flight 93. TWA was offically classified as an accident, Flight 93 is a criminal investigation. I think that the FBI TSA, and police protocol regarding realese of information.
ReviewForReel 10 months ago
@ReviewForReel I'm sorry I meant to say FAA not TSA my mistake.
ReviewForReel 10 months ago
It seems that Jason Bermas takes a McCarthyism approach to his debate. It just takes him to be placed out of his comfort zone for him to lose his credibility.
usindependent50 10 months ago 27
talk to whom? slaziK ? fukin Jew's
iamshaman2000 11 months ago
hahaha that nerdy kid with the glasses looks worried all the time watta pussy id beat the conspiracy outta his ass!
dachamp171 11 months ago
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dymchurch1 11 months ago
Jason doesn't expect to see plane remains when the plane hits a building.... Except for the Pentagon, anything other than the whole thing, in his eyes, points directly to a missile!
Those two self-indulgent 'heroes' are causing more damage than any terrorist ever could.
deanob1192 11 months ago
It was not a crash landing, it was a crash...
phlyegles43 11 months ago
people searching for the truth should just give up
because the population is too divided by class religion and politics
they will never see eye to eye or agree on anything
people only rise up and hold protests when it effects them directly
it was great watching the egyptian protests at least they know how to
get shit done :)
truthfilter 11 months ago
The fact that flight 93 crashed in a field is irrelevant as to what happened on 911 and who was behind it. What is interesting is what brought flight 93 down. The lack of public exposure to the evidence (i.e. the plane wreckage in the hanger) means we have no way of knowing.
sharka69 11 months ago
i want to punch that dumbass in the face on the far right and the one trying to debunk the video.. fuckin stupid
timmanntisyim 11 months ago
lol so who u gonna believe these kids or the expert haha these kids r dumbasses
dachamp171 1 year ago
Any idiot can open Google earth, find Shanksville crash site, then slide the TIME slider back to 1994 and you can SEE the gash they used as where the plane hit is THERE, Yes in 1994 the mark in the earth is there.
So clowns do it and let me know what you think lol.
ITs also ridiculous that a plane disappearing into the earth by crashing that ALL the people on board were identified but all 4 black boxes didn't survive.
Who believe this stuff ?
STRYQ 1 year ago
The loose change guys ought to leave the shanksville stuff alone.
The much more easily addressed and obvious cover-up is the demolition of the WTC bldgs.
smujismuj 1 year ago
@mintwithahole Um....rrrrright......ok..
jjobie 1 year ago
Jesus Christ in heaven. These kids are a couple of fucking idiots.
jjobie 1 year ago
Jason is loosing confidence in his voice with every interview that he is doing
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samnthikumari 1 year ago
Compare 93 to other crash sites. Let's use Logic and Reasoning although I know my attempts will be in vain towards the Twoofers. 93 was going down at 45 degrees almost 90 from some Eye Witnesses at 500+mph. It was meant to go down hard. All of the other crash sites had pilot's trying to land it slowly you know like at approach speeds and not full throttled and safely. I rest my case.
jbeyers84 1 year ago
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SemperFI388 1 year ago
Excellent point sir
SemperFI388 1 year ago
The moderator is horrible.
brianfights 1 year ago
8:40 dylan debunks jason. great job guys lol
Zero2Legend 1 year ago 40
@Zero2Legend What's wrong with correcting someone so they don't slip up?
dasschleg 10 months ago
@dasschleg well the problem with this is i posted this over two months ago and i no longer care, but it was funny to me because these guys are not only getting debunked on tv there also debunking each other. i give you the "truth" movement in all its hilarity.
Zero2Legend 10 months ago
@Zero2Legend They are getting debunked, but they're correcting each other to make sure they get their facts straight, or what they percieve as straight.
dasschleg 10 months ago
@dasschleg it was just funny to me that even they fumble on each other and jason either dosent know what the hell he's talking about half the time or actually makes shit up about stuff thats already been proven false. thats all, it wasnt an actual valid point about anything i was trying to make, just throwing an "lol" at them for being stupid in my opinion. i just dont like them man lol
Zero2Legend 10 months ago 2
@Zero2Legend It's called being honest.
BuildingNumber7 8 months ago
@BuildingNumber7 they repeated the same lies over and over that they couldnt keep track lol thats FUNNY
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ulike6 1 year ago
Hey.I just had an epiphany.Maybe these guys don't think religious faith is capable of something like 911.In a sense they are protecting there own faith(W/e it may be).
LoneAmerican 1 year ago
How can they put vaporised metal in a hangar? These guys don't seem to know the difference between a mid-air break-up and a plane that flew directly into the ground at hundreds of miles an hour. They are being intrinsically illogical.
blehblehbleh86 1 year ago
@voiceofreason467 wise comment and I fully agree with you! the most disrespectful thing to the families and those who died in 911 is that all the evidences were illegally removed from the crime scene and destroyed before any criminal investigation was conducted and never was ever since! the FBI website don't mention the 9/11 events in Osama Bin Laden's most wanted page because "there is no hard evidence conneting bin laden to 9/11 events" (Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for FBI 2006)
sadnane 1 year ago
These fags eat shit for breakfast, cause they are bullshit!
The only evidence these two dickface have is that THEY SUCK IN RESEARCH!!!!
JESUS, get some journalist to do you work.
OH NO, they cant do that because they are in it for THE MONEY!!!! ROT IN HELL!
anthonydouglasmunk 1 year ago
Dylan*
crismmercado 1 year ago
let Dillon talk!!
crismmercado 1 year ago
Dylan is acting very strange here...calling themselves 'kids' who were tackling questions that they shouldn't have....what? My question is: who got to him?
quidseeker 1 year ago
@quidseeker C.I.A Ninjas i reckon..or you could watch them being shown to be a couple of kids being schooled on the debate with Popular Mechanics >>>>>>>
resonance10 1 year ago
@quidseeker lol cause he was tired of his unscientific guesses being destroyed one debate after another
HowCanSheSlap1983 1 year ago
@HowCanSheSlap1983 Have you even watched the film? They cite many scientific sources including experts in the fields of metalurgy, physics and ballistics. How is that unscientific? Oh, because you read Us Weekly and Cosmopolitan and think you are informed, inbetween the perfume ads? Puhlez, I'm not convinced.
quidseeker 1 year ago
@quidseeker Science doesn't work that way. By your fucked-up logic, working out what 2+2 equals by simply mashing your hand on a calculator is perfectly accurate, as a calculator was used.
blehblehbleh86 1 year ago
lol, even Dylan Avery is getting uncomfortable with his minions opionion sitting next to him, just a joke
IslandWreck 1 year ago
@IslandWreck lol
crismmercado 1 year ago
@crismmercado Yea you can see Dylan sqirming everytime his college buddy talks. Hes like the crazy fanatical suicide bomber muslim of loose change. ALLuuuuuuu Akkka -loooooose changeeeeeee.
IslandWreck 1 year ago
How could we give credit to the official story if all the evidences from GZ were destroyed before any criminal investigation was made?if the surveillance cameras' tapes that caught the pentagon's attack were confiscated by the FBI and the five frames video released shows NO evidence of a 757? NIST admitted that they're "unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse",they "did not test for the presence of explosive residue and such tests would not necessarily have been conclusive" ?
sadnane 1 year ago
@sadnane Oh my god you are so stupid or blind. Even i have seen two different footage of the petagone being hit!!!!!!!
anthonydouglasmunk 1 year ago
@anthonydouglasmunk gee!! that's good! now go learn how to show some respect to other people's opinions...you'll never impress people by insults
sadnane 1 year ago
Believing official story = borderline insanity.
Steel melts at 1,370 °C 2,500 °F
Jet fuel burns at 287.5 °C 549.5 °F in open air
Steel loses half of it's strength at 600° C 1,100° F
No steel building has ever collapsed from fire until 3 of them did on 9/11. For a building to collapse in this fashion the core columns need to be severed at the bottom, hence the explosions and thermite found in the basement levels.
Iron oxide thermite reaction: 2500 °C 4500 °F will do the job easily.
ultradeth7 1 year ago
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ultradeth7 1 year ago
There were 3 buildings that collapsed in identical fashion. This implies a controlled environment, not a chaotic environment. Jet fuel cannot burn hot enough to damage or weaken steel. If they recovered bodies from the pentagon plane crash, why couldn't they find the 6 ton engines? Not a single drop of blood was ever found in Shanksville. Why are several of the 9/11 hijackers still alive? Bush said he saw the first plane crash on TV 9/11 morning when it was not on tv until the next day.
ultradeth7 1 year ago
@ultradeth7 Steel loses half of it's strength at 650 degrees Celcius. The fires burned at 700-1000 degrees Celcius. That just debunked your "jet fuel cannot burn hot enough to damage or weaken steel" theory. (Shanskville)Let's see the plane hit the ground at a 45 degree angle going at 580mph(850 feet per second), and you expect to see bodies intact and plane engines? Are you stupid?
strongman325 1 year ago
@strongman325 hi! i don't know if you're aware of the fact that a 757 CANNOT fly the reported speed (580mph) without its structure being heavily damaged (wings breaking...) before even reaching the ground! for this you may ask every 757 pilot about the Vmo/Mmo and Vne speed and search for the air crash of Egypt Air EA990
sadnane 1 year ago
@sadnane What you say is misleading. The max cruise speed of a Boeing 757 is 568 mph, meaning that that is the highest speed it can fly without any kind of overstressing. If it flew over 600 miles per hour for 1-2 hours the plane would probably be damaged, maybe the wings could have broken off. But it can definitely achieve a speed of 580mph and maintain it for quite some time without it's wings breaking off, the suicide pilots didn't care about overstressing so that's out of the equation.
strongman325 1 year ago
@strongman325 you got it right when you said that the max CRUISE speed is 568mph, so that speed may only be achieved at cruise level but the lower you get, the denser the air gets and the lower the max speed is! the Vmo at or near sea level is 369 knots! it differs from the Mmo at cruise level! look for the equivalent air speed (EAS) to have a better idea about it ...
sadnane 1 year ago
what kind of fire vaporizes, acording to the oficial story, aluminum and tempered steel, more than 6 tons, but yet leave human remains intact? thank you
hellraiser313 1 year ago
I wish they'd have these talks between the Loose Change guys and a rational, observant person (a lawyer, perhaps) who hasn't been convinced either way. Nothing useful comes out of the above black vs white set-up.
ubreakinmepatlisa 1 year ago
Government swallowing sicophants, thats all you people are. Wear that dunce cap with pride.
Seigu007 1 year ago
@Seigu007 - Nah, Ill leave that to the people that have videos of spitting goats amoung their favourites and respond to people the don't agree with "shut the fuck up loser", while simoultaneously swanning round youtube pompously trying to emit an air of intellectual superiority. If you've got nothing relevant to say, or can't put forward an opposing theory then..............how would a philosopher put it..............."Shut the fuck up loser"
MrSyrett 1 year ago
@voiceofreason467 The claim that a good portion of the families actually do believe 9/11 was an inside job.I haven't read that anywhere.
Juras187 1 year ago
@snoopblair Really son, is that what you think? How about when the press released information on WTC7 collapsing early when it still stood?
Just ONE of the many many situations that leaves no other room but for common sense to show that this was a successful false flag operation. Just ONE, but I'll leave you to watch Loose Change to question the rest. Now go sit in the corner with you and your one video of some dogs and shut up.
animajay 1 year ago
why would they conspire to crash a plane into a field either way? Surely the fact is that the hijackers lost control or got overtaken by passengers, and that caused the crash? I agree, it's odd that there was no visible debris that you'd expect, but I don't know why they'd lie about it a plane crashing into a field... it makes no sense or motive.
BrightDigitalProduct 1 year ago
@voiceofreason467 which ones and where did you get this info because it is interesting
Juras187 1 year ago
finally the freaks have to admit the lies they made......i hate those teenagers thinking to be so so smart....back to mom's belly to grow up!!!!!!
gangones 1 year ago
The argument between thesis and an antithesis, when engaged in dialectic inquiry, will result in finding the truth, if both parties are willing to decenter from their nucleus and are honest to the reality. After all there will be no winner in war when innocent people are dying. However there has to be an accountable entity behind every happenings.
monlased 1 year ago
I am glad they are debating this!
If there is going to be another debate, there ought to be experts next time.
Canceled 1 year ago
You gotta respect these kids for agreeing to go on public tv to be embarrassed this badly... I wouldn't dare debate a real scientist with real evidence if i had made a documentary which i had edited and re-released several times to correct the multitude of false evidence in it. These boys have a lot of courage! In fact, we should call THEM the heroes of 9/11
NoFearMX3 1 year ago
How about we use science, like physics, to solve our questions???? The truth comes from facts.
ddr85 1 year ago
The person who wrote the truthers are the same as someone who denied the holocaust occured. Turn that statement around, look at what you're denying, and you also made the statement that in 30 years we'll be looked on upon as crazys. The #'s of people who denied the holocaust occured in the 1950s was much greater than 1980s meaning your denial of this is what may belooked on upon as crazy...If you dont believe govt would do this researc OPERATION NORTHWOODS, admitted by Gov signed by Joint Chiefs
Dmcken1 1 year ago
These two older guys, younger than me though, cough cough, are so obviously shills. I've seen all of the films. ALL of them. I don't listen to either side. What I see with my eyes tells me this is the most obvious inside job. 1000's of lies. No film from pentagon saying it's national security. What a joke. They use the word "conspiracist" every opportunity. This is a disgrace. This is not a debate. The moderator is beyond belief. BEYOND belief. Humans can be pure trash. evil trash.
sssssjjjj1 1 year ago
Loose Change in the video they said FBI, CIA and ect say that it was 16 or so hijackers and they also said all of them died in the plane crash when 9 of them was found alive in different stats, places and even half way around the world.
BigerMan69 1 year ago
silly silly idiots. 9/11 was an inside job.
bmw200000 1 year ago
dylan looks scared. jason looks confident. the government let 9/11 happen.
pattyboy424 1 year ago
since when did sheep learn to comment on youtube baaa baaa
heartandsoul1988 1 year ago
the loose change guys get OWNED!
itloads 1 year ago
@itloads True is that some beautiful minds pick up lots of world data and some physics are just intuitive for them. 911 was an obvious demolition... within seconds its obvious. I'm amused just seeing how people need to be convinced of things they just can't hold in their heads...
You don't need to protest, or riot, or sob, or cry just stop watching 911 videos and know that yes... they plan the whole thing from inside.
Ramiromasters 1 year ago
All of you who dont believe 911 was an inside job, probably think lee harvey oswald killed JFK hahaha
bigtap03 1 year ago
@bigtap03 I'll believe anything the evidence points to. So far the evidence points solely to it not being an inside job. That's the difference between conspiracy theorists and rational people - the rational will believe whatever the evidence points to. Conspiracy theorists will only believe in their pet theories.
blehblehbleh86 1 year ago
The fact that these Loose Change jackasses are still alive and still free to debate about this subject kind of puts a damper on the whole "no one came forward about 9/11 because they were threatened!" theory. If any of this bullshit was true, the government would have shut down their little project the instant they got wind of it, threatening them or their families if they didn't keep quiet.
None of the conspiracy theories about 9/11 hold water.
sciencealwayswins 1 year ago
these guys' 15 minutes of fame is over! lol!
zume2600 1 year ago
@zume2600
wow your everywhere...err..on 911 pages.
muzicmaker2001 1 year ago
i think these guys really didn't do their homework on some of the points but to say that the entire thing was legit as an attack is bullcrap. There is A LOT of unexplainable occurances surrounding the entire tragedy that points to an inside job. Just because the government does an inside investigation doesn't constitute evidence of findings. These two guys are kids and don't belong here but many other researchers have solid proof. The moderator here is not a moderator.
stanfan27 1 year ago
Also too. Don't you think if the thing was a set up that the person executing would create an occurance that would produce evidence? So the plain crashes and people are found along with wreckage, great ! Shouldn't the bigger issue be who crashed the plane and who they were tied to? If I hired the terrorist to crash the plane the after effects would be debris and dead bodies but I was the one who hired them. I think they went after the wrong focus when they made the film but the right direction.
stanfan27 1 year ago
@stanfan27 All of that so-called 'evidence' is total crap. I've yet to see a single piece of 'solid proof' for an inside job, and I've done a LOT of research on 9/11 and the conspiracy theories. If you have some magical, super-secret evidence that no one has seen, feel free to share it with the rest of the class.
sciencealwayswins 1 year ago
@sciencealwayswins I love Youtube because everybody is a f*ckin expert all of a sudden. Take for instance an a**hole like you. If you haven't read, seen or heard any convincing arguments from the loads of information out there then that's your problem. If the buildings crashing down in implosion style instead of how they would have truly fell, if at all, wasn't enough for you then you just a suck a** that likes to come on here with keyboard muscles. Science may win but you sure don't.
stanfan27 1 year ago
@stanfan27 I love how you conspiracy theorists always project onto other people. Unlike you, I happen to know enough about physics to recognize that the way the towers fell was:
A) Nothing at all like a controlled demolition.
and
B) Completely compatible with the official story.
What, do you think it should have just toppled over on its side? Go do some research on the "pancake effect" and the way the towers were structured before you parrot the bullshit you've read on conspiracy sites.
sciencealwayswins 1 year ago
@sciencealwayswins
A) This wasn't a traditional controlled demolition. It was designed to make it coincide with the laughable and fictitious "magic cupcake theory." Government twoofers are usually too inept to realize this.
B) The fire fighter at the beginning of this video describes the collapse as of the buildings with the statement,"It was if they had detonators planted to take down a building." This adds credility to the demolition hypothesis:
watch?v=SXD3bAbZCow
It was an inside job.
EyeThirdThe 1 year ago 5
@EyeThirdThe No it wasn't lol. Where's the det cord? When did they have time to wire it? You ignore simple logic.
strongman325 1 year ago