Wow, this tournament was a lot of fun to watch, so many good players on both teams!
I never got into the competitive Puyo scene, so this was the first time I really saw PuyoVS in action. As an anti-Sega, Compile enthusiast, even I can see this game obviously clones Puyo Puyo Tsu's gameplay, but adds in great graphics and features making it a really good competitive Puyo game. It's a shame that isn't obvious to certain fans (or just one really stupid one). Great video Hernan, congrats Puyomania
@ZarlanTheGreen "Could you elaborate, as to why you'd connect him/her to me?"
Bad memory. Three word account name vs three word account name.
I found it now though. My apologies.
user/JackassLamda
"Since when is being a troll, in any way, a positive thing?"
When it can be used to save face. For example, I can claim that I was trolling to divert attention away from the blunder I just made. I am pretty sure that being a troll is favorable to the alternative explanations for your responses here.
It's a bit weird that most of the comments on this video are about me dissing it...
I hadn't expected such a response to my opinion, but I guess you guys are a bit touchy.
...and claims that the graphics are closer to Sun, than Fever, or that the discussion can be settled by Puyo Puyo ...or most ridiculously: That it matters if and/or what kind/number of Puyo Puyo videos I've made.
If you're going to argue, make sure your relevant ...and not blatantly false
@ZarlanTheGreen Well you had it coming. Ignorantly bashing a game you can't distinguish from an official Sega game and haven't even played => reactions
Also, I made it easier for you to compare: tinyurl . com / 335ogjp
@ZarlanTheGreen Hurray we've entered the nitpicking zone. Have you stopped to think these might have functional purposes. Oh no, you wouldnt know that, you're not an actual player. All you care is about graphics that looks like Sega's. However that is defined.
@HernanZh "Have you stopped to think these might have functional purposes."
The graphics? No, oh course they don't. The Compile graphics are no less functional, and I'd be baffled to see you argue otherwise. The same goes for the animations.
As to the X... What possible function would it possibly have, even in fever.
As to the indicators of where the puyos land... there are a lot of tetris/puyo/columns type games where you might see something like that ...but only for beginners.
@HernanZh "All you care is about graphics that looks like Sega's. However that is defined."
Oh that's simple.
The animations are pretty much exactly like in the games by Sega (except Minna de Puyo Puyo), and are in no way similar to the Compile ones.
The X and "landing indicators" appear in the Sega games, but never before them.
As to the puyos (animation aside): They are "anatomically" like the Compile ones, I'll admit, but they are drawn in a style (and colours) far more similar to fever.
@ZarlanTheGreen Lol, your responses are getting longer yet have less content. How can they not have a functional purpose *facepalms* I'm not going to even bother explaining that.
"Were still arguing the exact precise same things, so..."
Here's what's wrong, you're still dragging on your phobia for Sega's graphics, but we've strayed off from that. I've already explained the graphics are moddable and the ones in the video are all original. Yet, you're still picking on my game if it were Sega's.
@ZarlanTheGreen X's show where you cannot place your puyos, per ruleset. Indicators are useful for quick viewing where you will place your puyos (useful when looking over at your opponent). *sigh*
You keep picking on something I haven't said: that this game is a exact copy of PP2. First you kept insisting that the GRAPHICS are based on Fever, -> THAT's not true, but now you stopped trying to disprove that and focusing on nitpicking. What's next? PP2 didnt show online usernames? Get real man.
@ZarlanTheGreen Have you ever noticed in Fever, there are 2 X's? And you're straying off again. So what if they are for noobs? And how is this relevant? And as a matter of fact, these features were requested by players.
"YOU claimed that the game play was like Tsu."
Indeed I did, and it is. That's the point. We are talking about the graphics. You are the one starting about other gameplay all the sudden, whereas i didnt make any claims about this. Wtf. Are you getting dumber by the post?
@HernanZh "First you kept insisting that the GRAPHICS are based on Fever, -> THAT's not true"
Yes it is: the puyos (when still) are "anatomically" like the Compile ones, I'll admit, but they are drawn in a style (and colours) far more similar to fever. They are also animated pretty much exactly like in fever.
@ZarlanTheGreen Like I said before, I draw these all by hand. This is MY style, based on the Compile ones. So I guess if things get shinier, they become Sega's style. Nice logic man.
"I never did.
...the graphics."
Yes you are. Here I am trying to explain the difference to you and you don't see it. Never mind, I thought you were smarter than that, I guess I was wrong.
@HernanZh "You keep picking on something I haven't said: that this game is a exact copy of PP2."
To quote, exactly, what you said (please take a look at your comment to confirm this):
"If you were an actual puyo puyo player you would see it is. I designed the game after all, it's a complete puyo puyo 2 clone with online play and moddable graphics/sounds."
The truth is that the best Korean players are in this video. Many Japanese pros have been playing it too. If you think you know better than them, just be an frog in the well and hold your own opinion. No one force you to accept it or not.
Most importantly, you should at least appologize for saying this"Your playing a new (SEGA) Puyo Puyo game. I.e. you both lose.", which is apparently wrong and discourteous.
@zamil135 "If you think you know better than them/.../"
How would that be relevant?
"hold your own opinion. No one force you to accept it or not."
You guys sure seem to be trying.
"Most importantly, you should at least appologize for saying this"Your playing a new (SEGA) Puyo Puyo game. I.e. you both lose.", which is apparently wrong and discourteous."
It was slightly wrong, as it wasn't Sega (though clearly influenced by it).
Graphics, music, and sounds are not an issue here as you can change them to whatever you want. As for accuracy top players from japan have been playing online using it for a while now. From japan we have Kumachom (number 2 pllayer) and TOM (number 6 player) as main supporters of the game. From Korea we have LWTD_KOR, Pado, and Puyota, their top 3 players also play on it. it must be pretty freaken accurate if they play on puyovs instead of 2puyo.
2puyo is made just for online versus and is really unaccurate, it lacks animation and has weird short timing that makes the game even faster than puyo tsu. though to be honest the top playersjust go over to one of the players houses who happens to have the pcb of tsu or an arcade when they want to play serious puyo.
@ZarlanTheGreen 2puyo is good if you need a quick set of matches and it is still used because it runs in the browser. the lack of info comes from the game being used only in japan and anyone outside will have a really hard time playing because of lag. 2puyo also runs on pretty much any computer while puyovs needs a bit more powerful computer to run at full speed. this is a mmf2 problem and should be gone with the c++ version is made.
So you don't even know what 2puyo is. It just proves that you're really ignorant about puyo. It doesn't matter though.
Sure you're welcome to dislike Fever or even PuyoVS. Just skip them. No one force to play them or watch them. The really anoying thing you did is to insult all players in this video and the maker of this game based on YOUR OWN OPINION, which is different from most puyo players.
You could say "I hate this game". It's acceptable!
"You both lose", "It's modelled after them though, rather than the proper ones, made by Compile.","clearly based on Sega's graphics","Because I haven't been shown to be wrong"...and so on, these are actually your own "subjective judgement". But you said it like those are "objective truth". Do you know the difference between these 2 terms? Self-centered people don't. Let's hope you're not 1 of them...
@zamil135 "...and so on, these are actually your own "subjective judgement"."
Ah, no. Not at all.
"You both lose" is subjective judgement, sure. The rest is objective fact.
As Hernan shows (tinyurl . com / 335ogjp) the puyos look far more like fever than anything ever made by Compile.
Also the animation when they land is just like in fever and the indicators of where the puyos will land (a feature for noobs) and the X at the top (pointless), never appear in any puyo game preceding fever.
Maybe it's just me, or i'm just a casual puyo player, but really now? as much as I love aruru-chan and all the other cast, change is not always bad. there are some characters in the new game that I do not like, and the Fever does change gameplay into more of a crazy "look how many combos I can do", but it's still a pretty good game. I think of the new games more of a homage of the original. who knows, maybe they will even re-create all the characters using the new art style?
@ZarlanTheGreen If you were an actual puyo puyo player you would see it is. I designed the game after all, it's a complete puyo puyo 2 clone with online play and moddable graphics/sounds. The only thing that's from Sega in this video is the music.
@HernanZh "If you were an actual puyo puyo player you would see it is."
What I see is pure sega graphics.
Being an "actual puyo puyo player" requires you to have full knowledge about Puyo Puyo VS? (which the video itself doesn't mention) Rather arrogant thing to say isn't it?
I haven't paid attention to any new puyo puyo games, since sega bought it, as none of them were any good.
"The only thing that's from Sega in this video is the music."
@ZarlanTheGreen I was saying, that if you actually play the games, you would know the difference between rules, which you did not seem to have noticed at all. Not being arrogant, just pointing out the obvious. You're just looking at the game by it's graphics. And all graphics you see are original and drawn by me.
"2. I saw the graphics, thus stopped watching. (....) and clearly based on Sega's graphics."
Wrong again. The main graphics (puyos and background) are clearly based on the Puyo Puyo Sun. Go compare the Fever puyos and Sun puyos and mine. It's sad to see someone bash games purely on graphics and first impressions. If I slapped on a pp2 skin and you'd be happy? Why don't you just admit you were wrong.
@HernanZh "Go compare the Fever puyos and Sun puyos and mine."
*compares*
Eh...
clearly based on Sun you say? Why don't you go do that comparison yourself?
"If I slapped on a pp2 skin and you'd be happy?"
Pretty much.
Though seeing as it's a fanmade game, I dunno if the behaviour (the speed with which they drop, time until they "land" etc) is fully correct. That'd require closer inspection.
@ZarlanTheGreen "Why don't you go do that comparison yourself?"
Says the guy who can't distinguish graphics.
OH NOES SEGA GRAPHICS.
"if the behaviour (...) is fully correct. ."
Another thing an actual puyo player would notice. Timing of attacks and gravity of puyos are the biggest difference in Fever and PP2. In Fever, puyos drop one by one and attacks are faster.
@HernanZh "Says the guy who can't distinguish graphics."
Am I? Or are you?
I immediately recognized that it wasn't Compile, but more towards Fever. Your own little comparison shows this to be true, even without taking the animation into account.
"Another thing an actual puyo player would notice."
IF I'd watch the video for more than one or two seconds, maybe.
AIUI PuyoVS is now actually more accepted than any official Puyo game for serious competitive play. But I haven't been around in the scene.
Sure, the music is from the Fever games, and the graphics are inspired by them, but the gameplay is perfectly accurate TSU. And that's what really matters.
Though typing this is quite a waste of time as you're just a troll so you aren't going to care.
Hi, anyone know the name of music at 0.19 ?
Skeith 1 week ago
Thanks for posting this. This is really helpful for studying advanced chaining.
MisoAudio 1 year ago
@HernanZh thanks
Bramz90 1 year ago
What is the music which begins in 37:30???
Bramz90 1 year ago
@Bramz90 It's Popoi's theme
HernanZh 1 year ago
Wow, this tournament was a lot of fun to watch, so many good players on both teams!
I never got into the competitive Puyo scene, so this was the first time I really saw PuyoVS in action. As an anti-Sega, Compile enthusiast, even I can see this game obviously clones Puyo Puyo Tsu's gameplay, but adds in great graphics and features making it a really good competitive Puyo game. It's a shame that isn't obvious to certain fans (or just one really stupid one). Great video Hernan, congrats Puyomania
SUPERDANNY9 1 year ago 4
Wow good matches. Glad to see a french in the "world-wide" team ahah.
Korean seems to really like this game though, some players like iotas123 are unbelievable...
xenotypos 1 year ago
watching this makes me want to go back and play puyo...and then suck :U
puyoyoshi 1 year ago
@puyoyoshi hey i remember you from somewhere maybe you should come back so we can kill you jejejejeje
S2LSOFTENER 1 year ago
he sucks at games who cares. hey hernan see if you can set up us vs japan puyo team next lol.
Amyofauir 1 year ago
@Amyofauir I'll ask kumachom if i see him online.
HernanZh 1 year ago
Also this guy has had multiple troll accounts, this is not his first one.
shoesama 1 year ago
@shoesama "Also this guy has had multiple troll accounts, this is not his first one."
What is your basis for that, rather surprising and deeply insulting, claim?
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
""Also this guy has had multiple troll accounts, this is not his first one."
What is your basis for that, rather surprising and deeply insulting, claim?"
@ZarlanTheGreen google "doomsday7985"
Also, I think you should take it as a compliment.
shoesama 1 year ago
@shoesama "google "doomsday7985""
*googles*
While I don't see why you'd label me a troll, I am utterly baffled as to the reason that you think I'm THAT troll.
Could you elaborate, as to why you'd connect him/her to me?
From what I could google, I could find nothing that would even remotely connect us.
"Also, I think you should take it as a compliment."
Since when is being a troll, in any way, a positive thing?
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@ZarlanTheGreen "Could you elaborate, as to why you'd connect him/her to me?"
Bad memory. Three word account name vs three word account name.
I found it now though. My apologies.
user/JackassLamda
"Since when is being a troll, in any way, a positive thing?"
When it can be used to save face. For example, I can claim that I was trolling to divert attention away from the blunder I just made. I am pretty sure that being a troll is favorable to the alternative explanations for your responses here.
shoesama 1 year ago
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ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
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ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@shoesama "Bad memory. Three word account name vs three word account name.
I found it now though. My apologies.
user/JackassLamda"
Jackass + Lamda = two words.
But nevermind that:
He/she isn't much different from doomsday7985, so what I said there still applies. Please elaborate.
"When it can be used to save face."
I don't lie to save face. I say what I mean, mean what I say. If I'm shown to be in the wrong, I acknowledge it.
"the alternative explanations for your responses here."
Such as?
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@ZarlanTheGreen "He/she isn't much different from doomsday7985, so what I said there still applies. Please elaborate."
It means you are not that user. Reread that reply.
"If I'm shown to be in the wrong, I acknowledge it."
actions speak louder than words
"Such as?"
Let us assume that you are in fact not a troll, as you claim.
Then we must conclude that you must be insane, by Einstein's definition.
More specifically, you are insane in ways that make you socially deficient.
shoesama 1 year ago
@shoesama Oh you don't have to bother anymore, I blocked that troll ^^
It was fun while it lasted, but the trolling's gotta stop at some point :3
HernanZh 1 year ago
@HernanZh You should have done this ealiear. That psycho was really pissing off and it was time-wasting trying to enlighten him.
zamil135 1 year ago
@zamil135 I didn't know there was a block button until S2PID told me XD
HernanZh 1 year ago
@shoesama Oh! I forgot to ask: What other accounts are you claiming I've had? I'm rather curious to know.
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
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shoesama 1 year ago
@shoesama Do you have any issues with any of those comments?
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
It's a bit weird that most of the comments on this video are about me dissing it...
I hadn't expected such a response to my opinion, but I guess you guys are a bit touchy.
...and claims that the graphics are closer to Sun, than Fever, or that the discussion can be settled by Puyo Puyo ...or most ridiculously: That it matters if and/or what kind/number of Puyo Puyo videos I've made.
If you're going to argue, make sure your relevant ...and not blatantly false
Otherwise it's just a waste of time.
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@ZarlanTheGreen Well you had it coming. Ignorantly bashing a game you can't distinguish from an official Sega game and haven't even played => reactions
Also, I made it easier for you to compare: tinyurl . com / 335ogjp
Latest 2 compile games and latest 2 fever games.
HernanZh 1 year ago
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@HernanZh "Well you had it coming"
I had what coming?
"Also, I made it easier for you to compare: tinyurl . com / 335ogjp"
Two flaws I can point out:
1. Your graphics don't look like Compile. It's more of a middle way between Compiles latest and Fever.
2. That's only still pictures. You don't take their movement into account. Especially when landing.
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@HernanZh ...oh and also: That X at the top, and the indicators for where the puyo's will land, I've never seen in any Compile game.
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@ZarlanTheGreen Hurray we've entered the nitpicking zone. Have you stopped to think these might have functional purposes. Oh no, you wouldnt know that, you're not an actual player. All you care is about graphics that looks like Sega's. However that is defined.
HernanZh 1 year ago
@HernanZh "Have you stopped to think these might have functional purposes."
The graphics? No, oh course they don't. The Compile graphics are no less functional, and I'd be baffled to see you argue otherwise. The same goes for the animations.
As to the X... What possible function would it possibly have, even in fever.
As to the indicators of where the puyos land... there are a lot of tetris/puyo/columns type games where you might see something like that ...but only for beginners.
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@HernanZh "All you care is about graphics that looks like Sega's. However that is defined."
Oh that's simple.
The animations are pretty much exactly like in the games by Sega (except Minna de Puyo Puyo), and are in no way similar to the Compile ones.
The X and "landing indicators" appear in the Sega games, but never before them.
As to the puyos (animation aside): They are "anatomically" like the Compile ones, I'll admit, but they are drawn in a style (and colours) far more similar to fever.
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@HernanZh "Have you stopped to think these might have functional purposes. Oh no, you wouldnt know that, you're not an actual player."
So, if I show that they don't actually have any functional purpose...
Does that mean that, by you logic (yours, not mine), that it would mean that you are not an actual player?
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@HernanZh I just noticed a few things I forgot to mention in my previous replies to this comment:
"Hurray we've entered the nitpicking zone."
Were still arguing the exact precise same things, so...
Have we been anywhere else?
"Have you stopped to think these might have functional purposes."
If they do, then does that not further weaken your argument that this is, game play-wise, just like Puyo Puyo Tsu?
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@ZarlanTheGreen Lol, your responses are getting longer yet have less content. How can they not have a functional purpose *facepalms* I'm not going to even bother explaining that.
"Were still arguing the exact precise same things, so..."
Here's what's wrong, you're still dragging on your phobia for Sega's graphics, but we've strayed off from that. I've already explained the graphics are moddable and the ones in the video are all original. Yet, you're still picking on my game if it were Sega's.
HernanZh 1 year ago
@HernanZh "your responses are getting longer yet have less content."
Yes, I'm no good at being concise. I need to work on that.
"I'm not going to even bother explaining that"
If it's obvious, how come you can't explain it?
Could you at least explain exactly which things you are claiming have functional purposes? (and how that wouldn't make the game less like Tsu?)
"but we've strayed off from that."
We have? Into what?
"Yet, you're still picking on my game"
When using those graphics, yes.
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@ZarlanTheGreen X's show where you cannot place your puyos, per ruleset. Indicators are useful for quick viewing where you will place your puyos (useful when looking over at your opponent). *sigh*
You keep picking on something I haven't said: that this game is a exact copy of PP2. First you kept insisting that the GRAPHICS are based on Fever, -> THAT's not true, but now you stopped trying to disprove that and focusing on nitpicking. What's next? PP2 didnt show online usernames? Get real man.
HernanZh 1 year ago
@HernanZh "X's show where you cannot place your puyos, per ruleset."
...which is utterly unnecessary. Anyone who's played the game, more than once, will know that without the X. The X is for n00bs
"Indicators are useful for quick viewing where you will place your puyos"
As I've said: That type of thing only ever appears in tetris/puyo/columns-type games in beginner modes.
It's for n00bs.
"that this game is a exact copy of PP2."
YOU claimed that the game play was like Tsu.
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@ZarlanTheGreen Have you ever noticed in Fever, there are 2 X's? And you're straying off again. So what if they are for noobs? And how is this relevant? And as a matter of fact, these features were requested by players.
"YOU claimed that the game play was like Tsu."
Indeed I did, and it is. That's the point. We are talking about the graphics. You are the one starting about other gameplay all the sudden, whereas i didnt make any claims about this. Wtf. Are you getting dumber by the post?
HernanZh 1 year ago
@HernanZh "First you kept insisting that the GRAPHICS are based on Fever, -> THAT's not true"
Yes it is: the puyos (when still) are "anatomically" like the Compile ones, I'll admit, but they are drawn in a style (and colours) far more similar to fever. They are also animated pretty much exactly like in fever.
...and then there is the X and indicators.
All of which is fever based graphics.
"but now you stopped trying to disprove that"
I never did.
"focusing on nitpicking."
...the graphics.
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@ZarlanTheGreen Like I said before, I draw these all by hand. This is MY style, based on the Compile ones. So I guess if things get shinier, they become Sega's style. Nice logic man.
"I never did.
...the graphics."
Yes you are. Here I am trying to explain the difference to you and you don't see it. Never mind, I thought you were smarter than that, I guess I was wrong.
HernanZh 1 year ago
@HernanZh "You keep picking on something I haven't said: that this game is a exact copy of PP2."
To quote, exactly, what you said (please take a look at your comment to confirm this):
"If you were an actual puyo puyo player you would see it is. I designed the game after all, it's a complete puyo puyo 2 clone with online play and moddable graphics/sounds."
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@ZarlanTheGreen
The truth is that the best Korean players are in this video. Many Japanese pros have been playing it too. If you think you know better than them, just be an frog in the well and hold your own opinion. No one force you to accept it or not.
Most importantly, you should at least appologize for saying this"Your playing a new (SEGA) Puyo Puyo game. I.e. you both lose.", which is apparently wrong and discourteous.
zamil135 1 year ago
@zamil135 "If you think you know better than them/.../"
How would that be relevant?
"hold your own opinion. No one force you to accept it or not."
You guys sure seem to be trying.
"Most importantly, you should at least appologize for saying this"Your playing a new (SEGA) Puyo Puyo game. I.e. you both lose.", which is apparently wrong and discourteous."
It was slightly wrong, as it wasn't Sega (though clearly influenced by it).
That aside... I fail to see a problem.
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@ZarlanTheGreen
Graphics, music, and sounds are not an issue here as you can change them to whatever you want. As for accuracy top players from japan have been playing online using it for a while now. From japan we have Kumachom (number 2 pllayer) and TOM (number 6 player) as main supporters of the game. From Korea we have LWTD_KOR, Pado, and Puyota, their top 3 players also play on it. it must be pretty freaken accurate if they play on puyovs instead of 2puyo.
Amyofauir 1 year ago
@Amyofauir "As for accuracy top players from japan have been playing online using it for a while now."
So? They also play the Sega games, don't they?
"it must be pretty freaken accurate if they play on puyovs instead of 2puyo."
....or it might have something to do with how much better it works for internet play.
You can't just jump to a conclusion about WHY they use it, from the fact THAT they use it.
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@ZarlanTheGreen
2puyo is made just for online versus and is really unaccurate, it lacks animation and has weird short timing that makes the game even faster than puyo tsu. though to be honest the top playersjust go over to one of the players houses who happens to have the pcb of tsu or an arcade when they want to play serious puyo.
Amyofauir 1 year ago
@Amyofauir "2puyo is made just for online versus"
I thought you meant Tsu, or some other official game.
A quick google, look at wikipedia and puyonexus (the latter being full of Sega graphics) turns up nothing.
"and is really unaccurate, it lacks animation and has weird short timing that makes the game even faster than puyo tsu."
That'd explain why I've never heard of it then.
...and PuyoVS clearly doesn't have to be very good, to be a better choice than that, in that case.
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@ZarlanTheGreen 2puyo is good if you need a quick set of matches and it is still used because it runs in the browser. the lack of info comes from the game being used only in japan and anyone outside will have a really hard time playing because of lag. 2puyo also runs on pretty much any computer while puyovs needs a bit more powerful computer to run at full speed. this is a mmf2 problem and should be gone with the c++ version is made.
Amyofauir 1 year ago
@ZarlanTheGreen
So you don't even know what 2puyo is. It just proves that you're really ignorant about puyo. It doesn't matter though.
Sure you're welcome to dislike Fever or even PuyoVS. Just skip them. No one force to play them or watch them. The really anoying thing you did is to insult all players in this video and the maker of this game based on YOUR OWN OPINION, which is different from most puyo players.
zamil135 1 year ago
@zamil135 "So you don't even know what 2puyo is. It just proves that you're really ignorant about puyo."
Or maybe that I don't live in Japan?
I have no need to know about it, and I wouldn't use it even if I were in Japan anyway.
"The really anoying thing you did is to insult all players in this video and the maker of this game based on YOUR OWN OPINION"
Unlike basing it on someone else's?
Also: Are you new to the internets?
"which is different from most puyo players."
Why should I care?
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@ZarlanTheGreen
You could say "I hate this game". It's acceptable!
"You both lose", "It's modelled after them though, rather than the proper ones, made by Compile.","clearly based on Sega's graphics","Because I haven't been shown to be wrong"...and so on, these are actually your own "subjective judgement". But you said it like those are "objective truth". Do you know the difference between these 2 terms? Self-centered people don't. Let's hope you're not 1 of them...
zamil135 1 year ago
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@zamil135 "...and so on, these are actually your own "subjective judgement"."
Ah, no. Not at all.
"You both lose" is subjective judgement, sure. The rest is objective fact.
As Hernan shows (tinyurl . com / 335ogjp) the puyos look far more like fever than anything ever made by Compile.
Also the animation when they land is just like in fever and the indicators of where the puyos will land (a feature for noobs) and the X at the top (pointless), never appear in any puyo game preceding fever.
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
Maybe it's just me, or i'm just a casual puyo player, but really now? as much as I love aruru-chan and all the other cast, change is not always bad. there are some characters in the new game that I do not like, and the Fever does change gameplay into more of a crazy "look how many combos I can do", but it's still a pretty good game. I think of the new games more of a homage of the original. who knows, maybe they will even re-create all the characters using the new art style?
TWShadowfox32 1 year ago
Is it just me, or are they yelling out trig functions for part of the time...?
OrangeJuiceFan3050 1 year ago
hey where the pvp at
Amyofauir 1 year ago
I'm not sure what I'm enjoying more, the matches or some noob making a tit of himself in the comment section.
ChronoTata 1 year ago 7
@ChronoTata "or some noob making a tit of himself in the comment section."
I'm the n00b am I?
I'm not the one pathetic enough to require an X and indicators that show where the puyos will land.
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
I like how only half of the team is actually from puyonexus.
shoesama 1 year ago
wow huge video O.o! Awesome matches, nice work nexus team. congratulations PuyoMania :DD
VinnyR0X 1 year ago
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Your playing a new (SEGA) Puyo Puyo game.
I.e. you both lose.
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@ZarlanTheGreen It's not made by sega.
HernanZh 1 year ago
@HernanZh Apparently not. It's modelled after the them though, rather than the proper ones, made by Compile.
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@ZarlanTheGreen If you were an actual puyo puyo player you would see it is. I designed the game after all, it's a complete puyo puyo 2 clone with online play and moddable graphics/sounds. The only thing that's from Sega in this video is the music.
HernanZh 1 year ago 2
@HernanZh "If you were an actual puyo puyo player you would see it is."
What I see is pure sega graphics.
Being an "actual puyo puyo player" requires you to have full knowledge about Puyo Puyo VS? (which the video itself doesn't mention) Rather arrogant thing to say isn't it?
I haven't paid attention to any new puyo puyo games, since sega bought it, as none of them were any good.
"The only thing that's from Sega in this video is the music."
The graphics are all from Compile are they?
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@ZarlanTheGreen I was saying, that if you actually play the games, you would know the difference between rules, which you did not seem to have noticed at all. Not being arrogant, just pointing out the obvious. You're just looking at the game by it's graphics. And all graphics you see are original and drawn by me.
HernanZh 1 year ago 2
@HernanZh "you would know the difference between rules, which you did not seem to have noticed at all."
1. You can play the Sega games with older rules.
2. I saw the graphics, thus stopped watching.
"And all graphics you see are original and drawn by me."
...and clearly based on Sega's graphics.
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@ZarlanTheGreen
"2. I saw the graphics, thus stopped watching. (....) and clearly based on Sega's graphics."
Wrong again. The main graphics (puyos and background) are clearly based on the Puyo Puyo Sun. Go compare the Fever puyos and Sun puyos and mine. It's sad to see someone bash games purely on graphics and first impressions. If I slapped on a pp2 skin and you'd be happy? Why don't you just admit you were wrong.
HernanZh 1 year ago
@HernanZh "Go compare the Fever puyos and Sun puyos and mine."
*compares*
Eh...
clearly based on Sun you say? Why don't you go do that comparison yourself?
"If I slapped on a pp2 skin and you'd be happy?"
Pretty much.
Though seeing as it's a fanmade game, I dunno if the behaviour (the speed with which they drop, time until they "land" etc) is fully correct. That'd require closer inspection.
"Why don't you just admit you were wrong."
Because I haven't been shown to be wrong.
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@ZarlanTheGreen "Why don't you go do that comparison yourself?"
Says the guy who can't distinguish graphics.
OH NOES SEGA GRAPHICS.
"if the behaviour (...) is fully correct. ."
Another thing an actual puyo player would notice. Timing of attacks and gravity of puyos are the biggest difference in Fever and PP2. In Fever, puyos drop one by one and attacks are faster.
"Because I haven't been shown to be wrong."
*Looks at first post*
You've been trying to avoid it the whole time.
HernanZh 1 year ago
@HernanZh "Says the guy who can't distinguish graphics."
Am I? Or are you?
I immediately recognized that it wasn't Compile, but more towards Fever. Your own little comparison shows this to be true, even without taking the animation into account.
"Another thing an actual puyo player would notice."
IF I'd watch the video for more than one or two seconds, maybe.
"You've been trying to avoid it the whole time."
Avoiding what?
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@ZarlanTheGreen Come to PuyoVS and FIGHT ME! Let's see who's the loser...
zamil135 1 year ago
@zamil135 You think a PuyoVS match, or who wins it, would be relevant in any way, to the discussion?
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@ZarlanTheGreen
"Your playing a new (SEGA) Puyo Puyo game.
I.e. you both lose."
you shouldn't say that since you don't really know puyo well enough.
zamil135 1 year ago
@zamil135 "you shouldn't say that since you don't really know puyo well enough."
And you know that about me, how?
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@ZarlanTheGreen
hey where your puyo videos?
Amyofauir 1 year ago
@Amyofauir Where are your hamster?
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@ZarlanTheGreen
HAMSTER PVP
Amyofauir 1 year ago
@ZarlanTheGreen And "your" (you're) a failure of a troll.
AIUI PuyoVS is now actually more accepted than any official Puyo game for serious competitive play. But I haven't been around in the scene.
Sure, the music is from the Fever games, and the graphics are inspired by them, but the gameplay is perfectly accurate TSU. And that's what really matters.
Though typing this is quite a waste of time as you're just a troll so you aren't going to care.
omfgmouse 1 year ago
@omfgmouse "And "your" (you're) a failure of a troll."
A troll am I? That's rather insulting.
...and if I were, I'd be quite inaccurate to call me a failure. I've gotten tons of replies, after all.
Replies I wasn't expecting, BTW.
"AIUI PuyoVS is now actually more accepted than any official Puyo game for serious competitive play. But I haven't been around in the scene."
As I've said, I haven't paid attention to new Puyo Puyo games, since the disappointment of Fever.
ZarlanTheGreen 1 year ago
@omfgmouse omg it's you
can i kill you again LOL
S2LSOFTENER 1 year ago
I hope there was alot of fun involved in this.
DanieluYoshikoto 1 year ago 3