@jul24ian This is actually just a set up for a later part of the routine(which is not at the expense of Americans). If this is the only clip you have seen of him then it would be worth watching more, the first two lines of your comment is actually quite accurate.
@jul24ian Regardless of his shortcomings he's still the best stand up we've got, which is more of an indictment on the state of stand up comedy in the UK more than anything else.
Dogmatic nationalism and mindless consumerism is the real target and I found it very cathartic to listen to when the DVD was first released. There was a much more tangible sense of adversity towards the US under the Bush administration and for me Stew brought some much craved levity to the situation. (thanks)
Stewart Lee is such a hypocrite. Going on about how glorious Political Correctness is, then he says stuff about Americans that is completely stereotypical. I for one don't mind stereotyping and been politically incorrect, because I think people should make fun of and joke about our differences, because differences in people is what makes this world such an interesting place!!
I agree, it would make more sense if put in perspective. His follow up to this 4 minute segment (after everyone got through laughing heartily at 'those stupid Americans') was to insult the nationality of the people in the room: the Scottish. THAT...took balls and was clever esp after everyone got through 'taking the piss' at America. (Did I say that right?) Just heaping scorn on 'the most hated country in the world' ...from a very safe distance takes no courage or imagination.
He's one of those people that gains a certain status over time because they died young... cannot yet betray their image... and cannot criticize you for liking him.
@AndrewSmithJamjar That you've listened to Bill Hicks and found he "wasn't funny" says everything about you and your sense of humour and precisely nothing about Hicks. He's perhaps the finest stand-up that ever graced a mike, and it's sad that his legacy and comedy can be critiqued by morons like you.
@eezysqueezy Truly, it doesn't say much about me; merely: I don't enjoy Hicks' humour. In my humble opinion, he was an angry prophet clown with no message. I've listened to him extensively, driving to and from work; it passed the time but doesn't really make me laugh. It's like listening to a coked up American child. Heart-numbing.
@AndrewSmithJamjar You heard what you wanted to hear or what your ears were capable of hearing. If all you hear in Bill Hicks work is rage then you are missing the point, the source of that rage, which was his love for people and his desire to see them evolve beyond the petty bullshit that pervades their lives. To evolve beyond being droids who don't think for themselves or ever challenge the status quo given to them by self interested governments and big business. Hicks wanted to save the world
@AndrewSmithJamjar PS - Just occured to me the irony of my previous message on this particular clip. The very things that the brilliant Stewart Lee is criticising Americans for (albeit in a deliberately exaggerated way), things like the intellectual laziness, the desire to never own a passport and go anywhere, to not experience the world as it truly is, the arrogance that comes with thinking your relatively young country is the greatest in the world.....this is what Hicks was railing against.
@eezysqueezy It's just that I've heard it done much much better; and funnier [more funnily].
You call me a "moron". Hicks may be the only thing we disagree on - and yet you're prepared to personally attack me because I don't share your opinion - is this the "evolved" state of humanity you are referring to? Hicks has clearly failed with you, hasn't he?
Stewart presents an argument for nuance and - crucially - it's funny. It's not an absolute criticism of Americans.
@AndrewSmithJamjar I call you a moron because you deal in absolutes and only a moron is truly certain that they know everything. You say Hicks was "not funny", I suggest, again, that this is a sense of humour failure on YOUR part as opposed to Hicks not being funny. You also go on to explain that Lee's is not an "absolute criticism of Americans" as if you are illuminating some point which I missed. Plainly this is not the case as I've already stated his criticisms are deliberately exaggerated.
@eezysqueezy I do not know everything; seems a little puerile to say it, but I'll say it anyway: I never claimed to know everything; neither was I dealing in absolutes... Apart from this one absolute: Hicks was absolutely not funny.
I see your point of view: Hicks was funny. See mine: Hicks was not funny.
C'mon: be the individual Hicks wants you to be: love me.
@AndrewSmithJamjar I do love you. This is why I hope your sense of humour, and indeed you, evolve to the necessary level needed to appreciate the great Bill Hicks in all his revelatory, truthful, undiluted glory.
I applaud you for having a view, but I also retain the right to make my own personal assessment of your comedic taste, and the validity of said taste, based on that view.
@AndrewSmithJamjar Using Lenny Henry as any kind of response in a debate about great comedians just shows how wrong you are. You are attempting to be sarcastic and failing badly.
@AndrewSmithJamjar Because Lenny Henry and Bill Hicks don't even occupy the same comedic universe. You are, I assume, trying to insult Hicks by lumping him in with the terminally unfunny Lenny Henry. In which case you reveal only that you are a fool. Enjoy that.
@eezysqueezy You misunderstand - probably deliberately; and you are very aggressive. In the lightness of commenting on a public website under a pseudonym, you take yourself too seriously. An opinion was expressed - a obviously subjective, un-empirical opinion. It seems foolish to overreact in the way that you have when nothing is at stake but your ego. Which was also Hicks' problem.
@AndrewSmithJamjar Your high-minded protestations would carry more weight if you had chosen not to take a dig at Hicks in the last sentence. You are correct when you say opinions are opinions. However, like the man who thinks the world is flat or the one who believes the tooth fairy exists, your opinion carries all the weight of a stamp.
@eezysqueezy Not high-minded protestations - another [deliberate] misinterpretation - observations. You are aggressive... because you are being aggressive.
My opinion carries no more weight of a stamp; the difference between you and me is that I understand that to be true. You are overreacting.
@AndrewSmithJamjar No. I meant to say exactly what I did say. It was grammatically correct, so once again you have no point. Your confusion lies, I believe, in the idea that everyone should be entitled to an opinion (which is true) VS Everyone should respect others opinions (which is patently ludicrous because some people are just full of crap). I do not respect your opinion, and as such, feel no need to embrace or endorse it. I sincerely hope you can learn, grow and eventually love Bill Hicks.
@eezysqueezy I was criticising MY grammar (spelling, really)!
I have no particular philosophy on tolerance or 'the right' to have an opinion! My opinion is, as you say, as light as a stamp.
There are many who also think Hicks was/is overrated; pragmatically, you should accept this; to argue with all of them would be silly. Accept others opinions, not because of some entitlement but because you have better things to do with your time. Apologies for any misunderstanding from my side.
@AndrewSmithJamjar I do accept your opinion. I said so in the last reply. It's obvious you're not an idiot either. So we'll respectfully leave it where it is. I repeat again, though, that I do hope you develop a fuller appreciation of Bill Hicks in time....or maybe not.
@eezysqueezy You accept my opinion... whilst asserting that I am a 'moron', a 'fool', and that you do not respect my opinion. Okay - I'll take it - I am all those things - please, no more!
@AndrewSmithJamjar Once again you just don't get it. Your opinion is yours to have and hold forever more. This is your inalienable right....but I just don't have any regard or respect for your opinion, same as I wouldn't for someone who thinks Carrot Top is a hoot or that The DaVinci code is the greatest book ever written.
The very fact this segment is so absurd hints that in part he creating a satire of the kind of jokes so commonly heard about Americans. The very fact you couldn't even imagine this as a possibility, shows that you are every bit as narrow minded as he says Americans are. Fuck off and get a sense of humour, America are a world power due to size, not brains, arsehole.
The only true fool is a man who considers himself more intelligent than everyone else. Stewart Lee is afflicted with this condition, and sadly he probably will not recover anytime soon.
Love or hate America, you cannot deny their place as a THE World Superpower and no amount a frivolous demonization is going to change that, especially from some comedic hack. It was amusing to watch him try though... silly twat.
@dharmashooter Of course. anyone who's taste differs from yours is retarded. Well, the horrifically sweeping generalization that you made renders you at least socially so.
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@TearTheRoofOff It's not a question of taste. Good humour is intelligent and this isn't and the delivery itself is painfully slow and retarded. And you're right in that I don't need retards for friends. So fuck off.
@dharmashooter The only thing with this kind of comedy is that you dont get it. But, dont get me wrong, thats ok. It just wasn't meant for you. You are not the target audience but still, at the same time, dont get yourself worked up or upset over it. Its ok that you dont get it. No-one thinks less of you but you dont get it. But thats ok. You're just not the audience it was intended for. But thats ok.
People would spread their hate around a lot more if everyone spoke the same language. How can you hate the Finnish if you don't understand what they're saying? Most of the acrimony between the US & other Eng speaking nations is caused by familiarity. If a Japanese person insulted you, how would you know? It would be a far worse World if everyone spoke the same language. Non Eng speaking countries are like a radio station you don't listen to...they broadcast for someone else's ears.
The people who enjoy his comedy also like boring dinner parties, socialism even though they are all living the capitalist lifestyle and think nothing at all bringing up the topic of cheese boards into a conversation and make a joke out of it that only they find funny, they probably hate country folk that hunt even though they them selves have done fuck all to preseve our natural enviroment and are too busy indulging themselve inn their own smuggness to stop and realise what twats they are.
you know, because the americans have their month and day the other way round. Do you actually think he is mocking the people who died in the twin towers? Or is he really just mocking the bias hysterical news coverage? (bias because the American oppression in South America, Middle East and Asia are not discussed within mainstream media)
He says in the full set that he is doing it for comic effect. (re: being a comedian) Any joke about 9/11 could be considered bad taste, so by getting the date wrong he is mocking the popular phrase "9/11". It was used by American media as a buzzword to invoke emotive interpretations of middle eastern agression, the Americans were so fuelled with rage that they just wanted to see America go to war - they didn't mind it was with Iraq, close enough.
@natmanprime He was simply poking fun at the way the american month system doesn't go logically from the smallest unit of measurement 'the day' onwards.
Its just another way of showing how irrational and isolationist Americans are. Simples.
@mediaterrorism True. American's, and I am one don't get the truth from our news. But, not much different from the UK, Germany, France and Spain as well as other former world powers at the time of their oppression and imperialism when they had the ability to project power throughout the world. Just because you can't do it today doesn't mean you didn't do it in the past. History, discover it.
His comedy is of such ignorance it is on par with any racist sexist dated comic from the 70s, useless comic well actually he is of no comedy value at all
@22623501 some comedians rely upon the audience to think for themselves for their comedy to work...most audiences rely upon the comedian to do their thinking for them. if you don't understand why he's saying what he's saying, it's not his job to explain it to you. Lee credits the audience with the ability to INTERPRET what he's saying. The fact that many misinterpret him is not his responsibility. Lee doesn't ask ppl to agree/disagree with him.
Wow Ive heard a lot of comedians go off on Americans, but somehow I knew when I clicked on this that Stewart Lee would be the best and harshest. Mans a legend. Oh yeah Im American and I personally have great geographical knowledge
@22623501 Comedy is subjective, but it is an objective fact that stewart lee is a comedy genius, you won't find anyone who knows anything about comedy that says otherwise.
@reretacnala Very wrong, actually. I enjoy culturally self-deprecating humor, and as an American, I readily admit there is a deep well of absurdity to dip into comedically. I just find THIS particular routine not very funny. I'll leave it to you to lay it on thick with the stereotyping and insults, as I'm sure you are quite superior.
@TheFreemanist It's a joke based on the fact that 9-11, as the attack at the WTC is known worldwide (including in britain), means 9 november. In most European countries the date is registerd day-month, not month-day
@williamwilson666 Stewart Lee makes Michael bloody Mcintyre look lame. His material is deep, original, intelligent and brilliantly delivered, I think he's one of the funniest comedians I have evr seen. If you don't get it/like it - fine, but don't compare him to a boring run of the mill stand up like Mcintyre! There really is no comparison.
@22623501 I feel for you, you must have no grasp of comedy other than people falling over. Stewart Lee is probably one of the best stand up's there has ever been. His manipulation of material and his repetition of ideas and call-backs is flawless. His show's have deeper resonance then sanitised, cutesy, mediocre comics who simply grasp for laughs at stupid audiences. You might like to try Joe Pascquale...
@ctotheq Yes i have a grasp of comedy which is why i can see that Stewart does not. Here his punch line," shops that don't have the word barn in their name"! like i said no talent for comedy what so ever.
@22623501 I have to disagree completely - as well as pointing out the futility of making such a judgement - since these things will always be a matter of subjective taste. To say he has no talent for comedy is silly, considering the people who are laughing in the video!
@fightinboner lol america is probably the most racist country in the world. oh and he isnt racist he is funny. america is a joke so why not make jokes about them
The only thing funnier than this video is the stupidity of people commenting on it who are taking what Lee says at face value. He prefaces this by talking about people's smugness in their criticisms of America - consider the possibility that he's taking the piss out of that standup comedy staple of making 'stupid American' jokes. The audience plays into his hands by chortling at every one!
@blindside70 have you ever been to the UK? because i have been to both countries and america is by far and away the most hoorah place on the planet and Lee is right in the fact that you don't know where countries are and you are not curious about what your role in the world should be you yanky twat!
I have been in the UK, also lived in Ireland for six months Poland for a couple of years and been to a whole handful of European countries. I love Europe and will eventually settle down there, I also think it's idiotic to pigeon hole a country of 300 million people and then to be as insulting as this guy is with no real rhyme or reason. I'm all about joking about cultures and nations , this guy though in at least this bit was only insulting and most of it was true of the British too
@blindside70 i'm sorry but a country should be loved and admired for its faults and americans refuse to hear them. and a country as bigged as america should be judged on its actions and culture which in america has been destroyed by shit and mediocrity!
@blindside70 I wouldn't suggest settling in europe if you don't have the sense of humour to realise he is JOKING and saying this for COMIC EFFECT. he is playing on the stereotypes that people have of Americans, and if you get the DVD 'Stewart Lee stand-up comedian' this clip is taken from he even explains to the audience that he doesn't literally mean any of the stuff he says.
you don't really help the stereotyping of Americans by not even understanding when an intelligent comic is on your side
@NPjazzsaxmusic I thought that I maybe I was watching this out of context. I'll buy the DVD and watch it in the correct context. But just by looking at other comments on this video, it seems that everyone else has taken this out of context as well, it seems to have served as fuel for hating Americans when I'd say that most of these people had probably hardly left England.
Perhaps I am, I haven't been to stupid to do any of the other stuff I do though. I guess I'll put down the books w/o pictures, quit the finance degree and go find a tractor pull or a good old fashioned hog tie. If you'd be so kind though, in all your intelligence, to explain to me what the joke was? It seemed to me it was about how lowly Americans are... I didn't laugh and I normally do laugh at culture/race humor especially the kind directed at Americans... this was only insulting...
Mate have look at the DVD of this show in it's entirety. I can understand how you feel he's having a go at Americans but when you see the show in it's context, it will become clear that he's being ironic.
Stew is far too smart to actually stand by any sweeping generalisations he makes during a gig
@popjoeandco I should probably rescind my comment... I've looked at other videos on youtube and read some interviews, it seems as though I watched this video out of context...
@devski1234 one of the reasons america is hated is because of people like you who seem to think military might is something to be proud of in this day and age. I'm not saying military action is never called for, but the ability to maim and kill people en masse is not something to celebrate. All this "freedom" rhetoric is also really sad.
The posts that are defensive make the point Stuart Lee (who is a comedian and references that the bit is satire) is making. I have heard him live and seen Jerry Springer the Opera. He is brilliant and America and Americans have a sadly misplaced arrogance.
It is very sad to watch such a fantastic piece of comedy and then read the unnecessarily abusive comments below. Stewart Lee is a comedian, and a brilliant one at that. He is able to brilliantly mock American government for its arrogance while at the same time mock those people elsewhere in the world who attribute the attitude and actions of Americans governments with every single one of its citizens. He is fantastic.
@pmanngw Agree completley, if you think this is racist you need to see the entire routine - its probably in the links on the right. He builds up a satire for over 40mins or so along the lines that pmanngw states - he does the same things he says about the U.S about Scotland too.
I don't hate Americans, but I hate America and what America is thought to stand for. PATRIOTISM, a grave ignorance if ever there was one. You're not the greatest country in the world so your media should stop pretending you are. You're not the most free, not the healthiest, happiest, most intelligent, longest living or richest. Yet your nation describes itself as the greatest in the world. Being a christian country is nothing to brag about either
@Chairmaneoin i know this is an old comment, but america isn't a christian country, it may have a very large christian population but it's original policies demand that church and state must be seperate, anyone who says it's a christian country is lying, p.s this dvd rules, i love the william wallace part, not to mention the whole plagiarism bit. peace
What a load of nonsense. For a start, your comparing the GDP per capita of small city states with that of the US. There are no comparable size countries with simlar GDP per capita. Happiness is a hard one to measure but if you look at sucidie rates it's nothing exceptional. Health is dependent on many things including diet and genetics, the quality of healthcare isn't the sole factor in determining general level of health or life expectancy.
@Chairmaneoin I'm an American. Can I agree with you and at the same time say that there are English jingoists that just hate people like me because of my nationality?
I'm sure you have a source for all these top level stats you have at your fingertips. A man on the inside perhaps. Did it take long to find the percentage sign on your computer?
Do the math...s
PeteLewis1917 7 months ago
"Servicable hat" - one of the best punchlines ever
PPEACEandPILLS 11 months ago
I liked the '9th of November' remark.
zenzombie72 1 year ago 2
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I'm so impressed with Stewart Lee, he's such an intelligent thinker... it's like he's re-writing the comedy rule book.
Oh wait, no. Sorry. He's making bland, predictable jokes about Americans. It's 6th form humour.
jul24ian 1 year ago
@jul24ian you predicted he would make a joke about Americans anally raping a tea cosy?
hadoukenyourface 10 months ago
@jul24ian
Sorry you don't understand what he's doing here.
geffel 8 months ago in playlist ii) Lee & Herring - TMWRNJ & Fist of Fun
@jul24ian This is actually just a set up for a later part of the routine(which is not at the expense of Americans). If this is the only clip you have seen of him then it would be worth watching more, the first two lines of your comment is actually quite accurate.
EbsNhexz 8 months ago
@jul24ian Thanks jul24ian for proving to us all that the Yanks really are the stupidest race on earth.
bowen192 7 months ago
@jul24ian Regardless of his shortcomings he's still the best stand up we've got, which is more of an indictment on the state of stand up comedy in the UK more than anything else.
hippotoast 5 months ago
Dogmatic nationalism and mindless consumerism is the real target and I found it very cathartic to listen to when the DVD was first released. There was a much more tangible sense of adversity towards the US under the Bush administration and for me Stew brought some much craved levity to the situation. (thanks)
jarzhinio 1 year ago
I liked how he said 9th of November. v funny
reballare 1 year ago
Lol I'm American I thought it was funny :) not all us yanks r bad
21ctm21 1 year ago 7
This might be the best bit of stand-up i've ever seen. Thank you for uploading.
texasoilfields 1 year ago
I'm American. I laughed. Though I do tend to do more drugs than the average person so I have already thought about all this xD.
And the people arguing in the comments down there....You missed the point.
tdiz4shiz 1 year ago 2
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tdiz4shiz 1 year ago
@BraceAbound Exactly.
MUFC127 1 year ago
Stewart Lee is such a hypocrite. Going on about how glorious Political Correctness is, then he says stuff about Americans that is completely stereotypical. I for one don't mind stereotyping and been politically incorrect, because I think people should make fun of and joke about our differences, because differences in people is what makes this world such an interesting place!!
uarecheap 1 year ago
@BraceAbound I think you're reading a little too much into it. Lee is renown for his Anti-Americanism.
hippotoast 1 year ago
I agree, it would make more sense if put in perspective. His follow up to this 4 minute segment (after everyone got through laughing heartily at 'those stupid Americans') was to insult the nationality of the people in the room: the Scottish. THAT...took balls and was clever esp after everyone got through 'taking the piss' at America. (Did I say that right?) Just heaping scorn on 'the most hated country in the world' ...from a very safe distance takes no courage or imagination.
This isnt that.
InfiniteArguments 1 year ago
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InfiniteArguments 1 year ago
perfect explanation of typical Americans! bravo man.
alexhamster1134 1 year ago
This is funny. If you have to explain the funny, it's not funny anymore.
Bill Hicks was not funny; this requires no explanation.
AndrewSmithJamjar 1 year ago
@AndrewSmithJamjar Bill Hicks was funny, he spoke the truth.
uarecheap 1 year ago
@uarecheap
Things aren't funny because they are true.
Even when he wasn't true, he still wasn't funny.
He's one of those people that gains a certain status over time because they died young... cannot yet betray their image... and cannot criticize you for liking him.
AndrewSmithJamjar 1 year ago
@AndrewSmithJamjar That you've listened to Bill Hicks and found he "wasn't funny" says everything about you and your sense of humour and precisely nothing about Hicks. He's perhaps the finest stand-up that ever graced a mike, and it's sad that his legacy and comedy can be critiqued by morons like you.
eezysqueezy 1 year ago
@eezysqueezy Truly, it doesn't say much about me; merely: I don't enjoy Hicks' humour. In my humble opinion, he was an angry prophet clown with no message. I've listened to him extensively, driving to and from work; it passed the time but doesn't really make me laugh. It's like listening to a coked up American child. Heart-numbing.
AndrewSmithJamjar 1 year ago
@AndrewSmithJamjar Hicks had a message, you just missed that message. Two entirely different things.
eezysqueezy 1 year ago
@eezysqueezy All I heard was different topics met with rage. What was the message?
AndrewSmithJamjar 1 year ago
@AndrewSmithJamjar You heard what you wanted to hear or what your ears were capable of hearing. If all you hear in Bill Hicks work is rage then you are missing the point, the source of that rage, which was his love for people and his desire to see them evolve beyond the petty bullshit that pervades their lives. To evolve beyond being droids who don't think for themselves or ever challenge the status quo given to them by self interested governments and big business. Hicks wanted to save the world
eezysqueezy 1 year ago
@AndrewSmithJamjar PS - Just occured to me the irony of my previous message on this particular clip. The very things that the brilliant Stewart Lee is criticising Americans for (albeit in a deliberately exaggerated way), things like the intellectual laziness, the desire to never own a passport and go anywhere, to not experience the world as it truly is, the arrogance that comes with thinking your relatively young country is the greatest in the world.....this is what Hicks was railing against.
eezysqueezy 1 year ago
@eezysqueezy It's just that I've heard it done much much better; and funnier [more funnily].
You call me a "moron". Hicks may be the only thing we disagree on - and yet you're prepared to personally attack me because I don't share your opinion - is this the "evolved" state of humanity you are referring to? Hicks has clearly failed with you, hasn't he?
Stewart presents an argument for nuance and - crucially - it's funny. It's not an absolute criticism of Americans.
AndrewSmithJamjar 1 year ago
@AndrewSmithJamjar I call you a moron because you deal in absolutes and only a moron is truly certain that they know everything. You say Hicks was "not funny", I suggest, again, that this is a sense of humour failure on YOUR part as opposed to Hicks not being funny. You also go on to explain that Lee's is not an "absolute criticism of Americans" as if you are illuminating some point which I missed. Plainly this is not the case as I've already stated his criticisms are deliberately exaggerated.
eezysqueezy 1 year ago
@eezysqueezy I do not know everything; seems a little puerile to say it, but I'll say it anyway: I never claimed to know everything; neither was I dealing in absolutes... Apart from this one absolute: Hicks was absolutely not funny.
I see your point of view: Hicks was funny. See mine: Hicks was not funny.
C'mon: be the individual Hicks wants you to be: love me.
AndrewSmithJamjar 1 year ago
@AndrewSmithJamjar I do love you. This is why I hope your sense of humour, and indeed you, evolve to the necessary level needed to appreciate the great Bill Hicks in all his revelatory, truthful, undiluted glory.
I applaud you for having a view, but I also retain the right to make my own personal assessment of your comedic taste, and the validity of said taste, based on that view.
eezysqueezy 1 year ago
@eezysqueezy I think I'm evolving right now... My tail is now wagging.
AndrewSmithJamjar 1 year ago
@AndrewSmithJamjar When the opposable thumbs arrive you'll really be in business.
eezysqueezy 1 year ago
@eezysqueezy Here's hoping (thumbs up (in a rigid fashion)).
Does Lenny Henry become funny too?
World of possibilities.
So excited.
AndrewSmithJamjar 1 year ago
@AndrewSmithJamjar Using Lenny Henry as any kind of response in a debate about great comedians just shows how wrong you are. You are attempting to be sarcastic and failing badly.
eezysqueezy 1 year ago
@eezysqueezy How so?
AndrewSmithJamjar 1 year ago
@AndrewSmithJamjar Because Lenny Henry and Bill Hicks don't even occupy the same comedic universe. You are, I assume, trying to insult Hicks by lumping him in with the terminally unfunny Lenny Henry. In which case you reveal only that you are a fool. Enjoy that.
eezysqueezy 1 year ago
@eezysqueezy You misunderstand - probably deliberately; and you are very aggressive. In the lightness of commenting on a public website under a pseudonym, you take yourself too seriously. An opinion was expressed - a obviously subjective, un-empirical opinion. It seems foolish to overreact in the way that you have when nothing is at stake but your ego. Which was also Hicks' problem.
AndrewSmithJamjar 1 year ago
@AndrewSmithJamjar Your high-minded protestations would carry more weight if you had chosen not to take a dig at Hicks in the last sentence. You are correct when you say opinions are opinions. However, like the man who thinks the world is flat or the one who believes the tooth fairy exists, your opinion carries all the weight of a stamp.
eezysqueezy 1 year ago
@eezysqueezy Not high-minded protestations - another [deliberate] misinterpretation - observations. You are aggressive... because you are being aggressive.
My opinion carries no more weight of a stamp; the difference between you and me is that I understand that to be true. You are overreacting.
AndrewSmithJamjar 1 year ago
@eezysqueezy edit "My opinion carries no more weight than a stamp" was what I meant to say...
AndrewSmithJamjar 1 year ago
@AndrewSmithJamjar No. I meant to say exactly what I did say. It was grammatically correct, so once again you have no point. Your confusion lies, I believe, in the idea that everyone should be entitled to an opinion (which is true) VS Everyone should respect others opinions (which is patently ludicrous because some people are just full of crap). I do not respect your opinion, and as such, feel no need to embrace or endorse it. I sincerely hope you can learn, grow and eventually love Bill Hicks.
eezysqueezy 1 year ago
@eezysqueezy I was criticising MY grammar (spelling, really)!
I have no particular philosophy on tolerance or 'the right' to have an opinion! My opinion is, as you say, as light as a stamp.
There are many who also think Hicks was/is overrated; pragmatically, you should accept this; to argue with all of them would be silly. Accept others opinions, not because of some entitlement but because you have better things to do with your time. Apologies for any misunderstanding from my side.
AndrewSmithJamjar 1 year ago
@AndrewSmithJamjar I do accept your opinion. I said so in the last reply. It's obvious you're not an idiot either. So we'll respectfully leave it where it is. I repeat again, though, that I do hope you develop a fuller appreciation of Bill Hicks in time....or maybe not.
eezysqueezy 1 year ago
@eezysqueezy You accept my opinion... whilst asserting that I am a 'moron', a 'fool', and that you do not respect my opinion. Okay - I'll take it - I am all those things - please, no more!
AndrewSmithJamjar 1 year ago
@AndrewSmithJamjar Once again you just don't get it. Your opinion is yours to have and hold forever more. This is your inalienable right....but I just don't have any regard or respect for your opinion, same as I wouldn't for someone who thinks Carrot Top is a hoot or that The DaVinci code is the greatest book ever written.
You catching on to this yet?
eezysqueezy 1 year ago
@eezysqueezy I revoke my right to an opinion - please just stop!
AndrewSmithJamjar 1 year ago
@AndrewSmithJamjar No, you patently are NOT catching on to this yet...
eezysqueezy 1 year ago
@eezysqueezy Why dont you two just fuck already?
reballare 1 year ago
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@AndrewSmithJamjar Why dont you two just fuck already?
reballare 1 year ago
To p1zl3
The very fact this segment is so absurd hints that in part he creating a satire of the kind of jokes so commonly heard about Americans. The very fact you couldn't even imagine this as a possibility, shows that you are every bit as narrow minded as he says Americans are. Fuck off and get a sense of humour, America are a world power due to size, not brains, arsehole.
UrsineBenn 1 year ago 17
The only true fool is a man who considers himself more intelligent than everyone else. Stewart Lee is afflicted with this condition, and sadly he probably will not recover anytime soon.
Love or hate America, you cannot deny their place as a THE World Superpower and no amount a frivolous demonization is going to change that, especially from some comedic hack. It was amusing to watch him try though... silly twat.
p1zl3 1 year ago
best 3 comedians ever:
Stuart Lee
Bill Hicks
Woody Allen
In no order.
H0TCLAYT0N 1 year ago
Yank here, this is great. We're aware of our most-hated status, though.
macarion 1 year ago
2:35 XD
stratman06 1 year ago
the ninth of november, ha. he's so great.
imomo16 1 year ago
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Slow, boring and not at all funny. People who like this dick are retarded themselves.
dharmashooter 1 year ago
@dharmashooter Of course. anyone who's taste differs from yours is retarded. Well, the horrifically sweeping generalization that you made renders you at least socially so.
TearTheRoofOff 1 year ago
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@TearTheRoofOff It's not a question of taste. Good humour is intelligent and this isn't and the delivery itself is painfully slow and retarded. And you're right in that I don't need retards for friends. So fuck off.
dharmashooter 1 year ago
@dharmashooter Well what a surprise, another fucking idiot in the world. Sun rise, sun set.
Go fuck yourself.
TearTheRoofOff 1 year ago
@dharmashooter The only thing with this kind of comedy is that you dont get it. But, dont get me wrong, thats ok. It just wasn't meant for you. You are not the target audience but still, at the same time, dont get yourself worked up or upset over it. Its ok that you dont get it. No-one thinks less of you but you dont get it. But thats ok. You're just not the audience it was intended for. But thats ok.
chriszanf 1 year ago
@dharmashooter Grow a few brain cells you stupid fucking cunt!
Warbrain88 1 year ago
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dharmashooter 1 year ago
People would spread their hate around a lot more if everyone spoke the same language. How can you hate the Finnish if you don't understand what they're saying? Most of the acrimony between the US & other Eng speaking nations is caused by familiarity. If a Japanese person insulted you, how would you know? It would be a far worse World if everyone spoke the same language. Non Eng speaking countries are like a radio station you don't listen to...they broadcast for someone else's ears.
tupperwararty 1 year ago
The people who enjoy his comedy also like boring dinner parties, socialism even though they are all living the capitalist lifestyle and think nothing at all bringing up the topic of cheese boards into a conversation and make a joke out of it that only they find funny, they probably hate country folk that hunt even though they them selves have done fuck all to preseve our natural enviroment and are too busy indulging themselve inn their own smuggness to stop and realise what twats they are.
22623501 1 year ago
@22623501 I like his comedy, hate dinner parties and know nothing about socialism. Your comment was very smug btw.
No9Nando 1 year ago
He's an English comic making a room full of Glasweigans laugh. Nuff said.
jacksawild 1 year ago
9th of november?? he said 9th nov??
should be 11th of september!!!
listen at the beginning
I would be pissed off if I was an american
natmanprime 1 year ago
@natmanprime
you know, because the americans have their month and day the other way round. Do you actually think he is mocking the people who died in the twin towers? Or is he really just mocking the bias hysterical news coverage? (bias because the American oppression in South America, Middle East and Asia are not discussed within mainstream media)
mediaterrorism 1 year ago
@mediaterrorism I don't think he's mocking the dead obviously
and I don't see how getting it the wrong way round mocks the news media in the US.
He said it too quickly to allow for a reaction from the audience
I think it could be a genuine mistake, although I'm sure he knows it's september 11, just a verbal mistake by force of habit on the day.
I can't see much comic value in it if I assume otherwise
natmanprime 1 year ago
@natmanprime
He says in the full set that he is doing it for comic effect. (re: being a comedian) Any joke about 9/11 could be considered bad taste, so by getting the date wrong he is mocking the popular phrase "9/11". It was used by American media as a buzzword to invoke emotive interpretations of middle eastern agression, the Americans were so fuelled with rage that they just wanted to see America go to war - they didn't mind it was with Iraq, close enough.
mediaterrorism 1 year ago
@mediaterrorism i see : )
thanks for taking the time to comment
natmanprime 1 year ago
@natmanprime He was simply poking fun at the way the american month system doesn't go logically from the smallest unit of measurement 'the day' onwards.
Its just another way of showing how irrational and isolationist Americans are. Simples.
hiukltd15 1 year ago
@hiukltd15 yep.
natmanprime 1 year ago
@hiukltd15 Do you mean the Greek month system? That's the one we American's use.
christschool 1 year ago
@mediaterrorism True. American's, and I am one don't get the truth from our news. But, not much different from the UK, Germany, France and Spain as well as other former world powers at the time of their oppression and imperialism when they had the ability to project power throughout the world. Just because you can't do it today doesn't mean you didn't do it in the past. History, discover it.
christschool 1 year ago
@natmanprime
9/11 = 9th of november to everyone else outside of America.
blehblah22 1 year ago
@blehblah22 yep
natmanprime 1 year ago
I'm from the US, just discovered him, brilliant. His book can be downloaded for the Kindle even though it doesn't show up on Amazon's site.
aeest400 1 year ago
Absolute genius
lolfrenzdoylelol 1 year ago
Genius ... as always
thedavejayshow 1 year ago
His comedy is of such ignorance it is on par with any racist sexist dated comic from the 70s, useless comic well actually he is of no comedy value at all
22623501 1 year ago
@22623501 ahhhh, you just don't get it. pity that.
SteakAndKidneyJesus 1 year ago
@SteakAndKidneyJesus yes i get it is not funny, i have a sense of humour, something Mr Lee and his audiance do not.
22623501 1 year ago
@22623501 Just your opinion. Stop stating it like it's fact. Go back to your knock knock jokes.
raithrover1976 1 year ago
@22623501 yes, you sound like you have a wonderful sense of humour old chap :D
SteakAndKidneyJesus 1 year ago 2
@22623501 you're a massive twat. Just saying
b0b1919 1 year ago
@b0b1919 i'd rather be a massive twat than a stupid prick, now make us all laugh unlike Mr Stewart here and go throw your self of a cliff. Cheerio
22623501 1 year ago
@22623501 wow, you ARE thick aren't you. really, really stupid
chalkus 1 year ago
@22623501 some comedians rely upon the audience to think for themselves for their comedy to work...most audiences rely upon the comedian to do their thinking for them. if you don't understand why he's saying what he's saying, it's not his job to explain it to you. Lee credits the audience with the ability to INTERPRET what he's saying. The fact that many misinterpret him is not his responsibility. Lee doesn't ask ppl to agree/disagree with him.
tupperwararty 1 year ago
Or Tom O'Connor
taffwob 1 year ago
People slagging off Stewart Lee as a comedian & bringing Michael McIntyre in to the argument.
Oh dear!!!
That said he's certainly no Joe Pasquale
taffwob 1 year ago
Wow Ive heard a lot of comedians go off on Americans, but somehow I knew when I clicked on this that Stewart Lee would be the best and harshest. Mans a legend. Oh yeah Im American and I personally have great geographical knowledge
legarageraj 1 year ago 2
9th of November - Brilliant
PinkoCommyCoulter 1 year ago 3
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Fist of Fun, Still can not understand how the BBC commissioned that utter rubbish.
Stewart Lee+Comedy= does not work out.
22623501 1 year ago
@22623501 Comedy is subjective, but it is an objective fact that stewart lee is a comedy genius, you won't find anyone who knows anything about comedy that says otherwise.
ctotheq 1 year ago 2
@22623501 ahhh
jacksawild 1 year ago
mmmm.....pre-lapsarian.....i don't know what it means but it sounds relaxing....
pre-lapsarian bliss
natmanprime 1 year ago
isn't that double irony? a tea cozy being less effective than some employees.
don't 2 ironies on the same subject cancel each other out?
ghosterdude 1 year ago
Waiting to laugh.......waiting to laugh.....
Thelookoutslookout 1 year ago
@Thelookoutslookout a typical american, unable to laugh at oneself. Maybe it's too intellectual for you
reretacnala 1 year ago
@reretacnala Very wrong, actually. I enjoy culturally self-deprecating humor, and as an American, I readily admit there is a deep well of absurdity to dip into comedically. I just find THIS particular routine not very funny. I'll leave it to you to lay it on thick with the stereotyping and insults, as I'm sure you are quite superior.
Cheerio!
Thelookoutslookout 1 year ago
@Thelookoutslookout you're welcome.. Have a nice day!
reretacnala 1 year ago
@Thelookoutslookout Though it isn't probably a circumstance he finds himself in often, in this case that is probably correct.
And people say Americans serve no positive purpose.......
williamwilson666 1 year ago
Stewart Lee is the Bill Hicks of the UK...a legend! I love intelligent humour.
Transbear1 1 year ago
what happened on the 9th of November?
TheFreemanist 1 year ago
@TheFreemanist It's a joke based on the fact that 9-11, as the attack at the WTC is known worldwide (including in britain), means 9 november. In most European countries the date is registerd day-month, not month-day
murphyopalmen 1 year ago
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This guy has never been funny, he has no talent for comedy what so ever
22623501 1 year ago
@22623501 Yeah, he's no Michael McIntyre.
williamwilson666 1 year ago
@williamwilson666 Stewart Lee makes Michael bloody Mcintyre look lame. His material is deep, original, intelligent and brilliantly delivered, I think he's one of the funniest comedians I have evr seen. If you don't get it/like it - fine, but don't compare him to a boring run of the mill stand up like Mcintyre! There really is no comparison.
trifelgeputinage 1 year ago
@trifelgeputinage It was a joke based on one Lee made himself in which he wrote a scathing review of his own show.
williamwilson666 1 year ago
@williamwilson666 Ahh! Gotta see that! : )
trifelgeputinage 1 year ago
@22623501 I feel for you, you must have no grasp of comedy other than people falling over. Stewart Lee is probably one of the best stand up's there has ever been. His manipulation of material and his repetition of ideas and call-backs is flawless. His show's have deeper resonance then sanitised, cutesy, mediocre comics who simply grasp for laughs at stupid audiences. You might like to try Joe Pascquale...
ctotheq 1 year ago 15
@ctotheq Yes i have a grasp of comedy which is why i can see that Stewart does not. Here his punch line," shops that don't have the word barn in their name"! like i said no talent for comedy what so ever.
22623501 1 year ago
@22623501 shame you can't see the comedy. perhaps, you should stand tall and maybe he will no longer go over your head.
michael mcintyre is a terrible and lazy comedian, relying on easy, thoughtless jokes, pretending to know what you do everyday.
chalkus 1 year ago
@22623501 I have to disagree completely - as well as pointing out the futility of making such a judgement - since these things will always be a matter of subjective taste. To say he has no talent for comedy is silly, considering the people who are laughing in the video!
trifelgeputinage 1 year ago
I'll never forget where I was on the ninth of November, when the towers fell.
LordTacohead 1 year ago
lol this is so true
TheHomelessCripple 1 year ago
you cant expect me to understand irony. stewart lee is a racist.
fightinboner 1 year ago
@fightinboner lol america is probably the most racist country in the world. oh and he isnt racist he is funny. america is a joke so why not make jokes about them
mattyreynolds1990 1 year ago
@mattyreynolds1990 way to not get my joke ass.
fightinboner 1 year ago
@fightinboner lol sorry i thought you were serious
mattyreynolds1990 1 year ago
rate this...stuart lee is esoteric....some wont ever understand ..lol.
jakethefreak1 1 year ago
The only thing funnier than this video is the stupidity of people commenting on it who are taking what Lee says at face value. He prefaces this by talking about people's smugness in their criticisms of America - consider the possibility that he's taking the piss out of that standup comedy staple of making 'stupid American' jokes. The audience plays into his hands by chortling at every one!
faraday200 1 year ago 16
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The funniest thing about the Brits, is that the rest of the world says almost the exact same things about them as this guy is saying about Americans.
blindside70 2 years ago
almost the exact same things. the only difference is the people in the 'rest of the world' aren't very funny
alriooreo 1 year ago
@blindside70 have you ever been to the UK? because i have been to both countries and america is by far and away the most hoorah place on the planet and Lee is right in the fact that you don't know where countries are and you are not curious about what your role in the world should be you yanky twat!
arrogantwanker2 1 year ago
I have been in the UK, also lived in Ireland for six months Poland for a couple of years and been to a whole handful of European countries. I love Europe and will eventually settle down there, I also think it's idiotic to pigeon hole a country of 300 million people and then to be as insulting as this guy is with no real rhyme or reason. I'm all about joking about cultures and nations , this guy though in at least this bit was only insulting and most of it was true of the British too
blindside70 1 year ago
@blindside70 i'm sorry but a country should be loved and admired for its faults and americans refuse to hear them. and a country as bigged as america should be judged on its actions and culture which in america has been destroyed by shit and mediocrity!
arrogantwanker2 1 year ago
@blindside70 You obviously dont understand, humour or satire.
gaelicscots 1 year ago
@gaelicscots apparently not. Before this video I thought I had...
blindside70 1 year ago
@blindside70 I wouldn't suggest settling in europe if you don't have the sense of humour to realise he is JOKING and saying this for COMIC EFFECT. he is playing on the stereotypes that people have of Americans, and if you get the DVD 'Stewart Lee stand-up comedian' this clip is taken from he even explains to the audience that he doesn't literally mean any of the stuff he says.
you don't really help the stereotyping of Americans by not even understanding when an intelligent comic is on your side
NPjazzsaxmusic 1 year ago
@NPjazzsaxmusic I thought that I maybe I was watching this out of context. I'll buy the DVD and watch it in the correct context. But just by looking at other comments on this video, it seems that everyone else has taken this out of context as well, it seems to have served as fuel for hating Americans when I'd say that most of these people had probably hardly left England.
blindside70 1 year ago
@blindside70
oh fuck off
phonicmu1202 1 year ago
@blindside70 obviously you are too stupid to get the joke he was really telling here.
gixer121121 1 year ago
Perhaps I am, I haven't been to stupid to do any of the other stuff I do though. I guess I'll put down the books w/o pictures, quit the finance degree and go find a tractor pull or a good old fashioned hog tie. If you'd be so kind though, in all your intelligence, to explain to me what the joke was? It seemed to me it was about how lowly Americans are... I didn't laugh and I normally do laugh at culture/race humor especially the kind directed at Americans... this was only insulting...
blindside70 1 year ago
@blindside70 Ha Ha... You're an American
puffinman 1 year ago
@blindside70
Mate have look at the DVD of this show in it's entirety. I can understand how you feel he's having a go at Americans but when you see the show in it's context, it will become clear that he's being ironic.
Stew is far too smart to actually stand by any sweeping generalisations he makes during a gig
popjoeandco 1 year ago
@popjoeandco I should probably rescind my comment... I've looked at other videos on youtube and read some interviews, it seems as though I watched this video out of context...
blindside70 1 year ago
@popjoeandco One of the few intelligent comments on this video.
christschool 1 year ago
the truest, cleverest, and most sophisticated 4 minutes of comedy ive seen until the next related video
12345l6789 2 years ago
devski, you're hated because of arrogance...arrogance you displayed so well just then.
nicck 2 years ago
@devski1234 one of the reasons america is hated is because of people like you who seem to think military might is something to be proud of in this day and age. I'm not saying military action is never called for, but the ability to maim and kill people en masse is not something to celebrate. All this "freedom" rhetoric is also really sad.
ShiftyMcSly 2 years ago 5
The posts that are defensive make the point Stuart Lee (who is a comedian and references that the bit is satire) is making. I have heard him live and seen Jerry Springer the Opera. He is brilliant and America and Americans have a sadly misplaced arrogance.
nolan1191 2 years ago 3
It is very sad to watch such a fantastic piece of comedy and then read the unnecessarily abusive comments below. Stewart Lee is a comedian, and a brilliant one at that. He is able to brilliantly mock American government for its arrogance while at the same time mock those people elsewhere in the world who attribute the attitude and actions of Americans governments with every single one of its citizens. He is fantastic.
pmanngw 2 years ago 43
@pmanngw Agree completley, if you think this is racist you need to see the entire routine - its probably in the links on the right. He builds up a satire for over 40mins or so along the lines that pmanngw states - he does the same things he says about the U.S about Scotland too.
Shalashaska8636 1 year ago
No, America is hated for the reasons people say.
I don't hate Americans, but I hate America and what America is thought to stand for. PATRIOTISM, a grave ignorance if ever there was one. You're not the greatest country in the world so your media should stop pretending you are. You're not the most free, not the healthiest, happiest, most intelligent, longest living or richest. Yet your nation describes itself as the greatest in the world. Being a christian country is nothing to brag about either
Chairmaneoin 2 years ago 36
@Chairmaneoin i know this is an old comment, but america isn't a christian country, it may have a very large christian population but it's original policies demand that church and state must be seperate, anyone who says it's a christian country is lying, p.s this dvd rules, i love the william wallace part, not to mention the whole plagiarism bit. peace
geriatrickoala 1 year ago
@Chairmaneoin well...the fact you hate anyone negates your opinion....or should I just say "fair enough"
evilmurderproduction 1 year ago
"You're not the most free, not the healthiest, happiest, most intelligent, longest living or richest"
Actually statistically they are, except from the life expectancy.
smoochym 1 year ago
@smoochym
Statistically they are not:
114th Happiest country (Happy Plant Index 2009)
36th Freedom (Freedom of the Press List)
13th "Healthiest" (HDI 2009)
8th Richest country (CIA World Factbook - Countries by GDP).
19th "Most intelligent" (Nations by Average IQ - America = 98).
38th in Life Expectancy (Behind Cuba).
AMERICA FUCK YE... OH WAIT
millard27 1 year ago
What a load of nonsense. For a start, your comparing the GDP per capita of small city states with that of the US. There are no comparable size countries with simlar GDP per capita. Happiness is a hard one to measure but if you look at sucidie rates it's nothing exceptional. Health is dependent on many things including diet and genetics, the quality of healthcare isn't the sole factor in determining general level of health or life expectancy.
"Happy Plant Index" lol.
smoochym 1 year ago
@smoochym
All trusted sources kid. You're just butthurt that your country is shit. Sorry to break it to you.
millard27 1 year ago
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@millard27 my country as in the UK?
smoochym 1 year ago
@millard27 Indeed the UK is shit.
smoochym 1 year ago
@smoochym
Thats why it's higher than Americafat on all of those lists. Luls, ignorant Americunt, u mad?
millard27 1 year ago
@millard27 if you base your conclusion on qualiative nonsense and blanket comparisons maybe.
smoochym 1 year ago
@smoochym
I provided evidence kid, you're just too ignorant to see it. Face it, your country isn't as amazing as your brainwashing media makes out.
Now go eat a burger.
millard27 1 year ago
@millard27 You mean the German import know as the burger?
christschool 1 year ago
@smoochym
Statistically they are the most free??
Where and how was that study constructed!?
popjoeandco 1 year ago
@popjoeandco number of referendums held for a start?
smoochym 1 year ago
@Chairmaneoin I'm an American. Can I agree with you and at the same time say that there are English jingoists that just hate people like me because of my nationality?
christschool 1 year ago
I'm sure you have a source for all these top level stats you have at your fingertips. A man on the inside perhaps. Did it take long to find the percentage sign on your computer?
agoodud 2 years ago
@devski1234
No, you are hated because, with few exceptions, you are insular retarded self-glorifying flag-waving cunts.
As perfectly demonstrated by your post.
ShoeiBoy 2 years ago 9