My great grandpa crushed his ankle during rehearsal for this operation. He couldent go so his unit went and almost all of them were killed. It makes me think of all the kids I could actually know but I dont because their forefathers were killed in things like this...
That will be the PWRR then now the finest infantry regt in the British Army......I served in the Queens regiment then the finest in the Brit Army go for it young un...
OK - what do I need to say: My dad cycled up to Friesland to get food aged 9 with two small sisters in tow, his older brothers went into hiding to avoid working in Germany, my mum lost a brother to leukemia. Damn to all strategists. Let's just all agree this is wonderful film music. It won't ever do any of the soldiers who fought at Arnhem any justice. But I salute them all.
i never insulted the israeli's i simply said they never fought a really tough enemy so it's tough to judge them. plus i've noticed that you seem to gloat over america's defeats and often glorify our past enemies. it's kinda disturbing. plus you have a very bad habit of not just making fun of people who disagree with you but of trashing entire groups of americans like sailors,marines,enlisted men...i'm sure the list goes on.
This is wonderful film music. But no film or film music will ever do any of the soldiers who fought at Arnhem any justice. The composer here just tries to grasp what all of them wanted to achieve - defeat of evil and in the end glory despite defeat is achieved. I salute them all. I am Dutch by the way. My parents were kids and living in Rotterdam at the time. The place was obliterated.
Another miserable and farcical disaster, caused by our own utterly useless top brass! ( just as the BEF disaster was in 1940 ) and where the price for it, was paid, as per usual ,by our brave soldiers and not those responsible for the mess !
My grandad was wounded just outside nijmegen trying to reach the brave boys in the parachute regiment after fighting his way ashore in the first wave on gold beach with 1st battalion the hampshire regiment. He was 19. He inspired me to the point where I'm joining the army, I never had the chance to tell him properly and he died earlier this year, he was an incredible man who touched the hearts of everyone who knew him. RIP ernie boy, I love you and miss you more than words can say.
As an American i clearly recognize the Brits contributions to the war, their efforts at Arnhem moved me, and at the end of the movie with the retreat and singing "Abide with me" well i almost cried.
every keeps saying they want to see war from a british or french point of view.
you NEVER see any CANADIANS though dont you?
the Canadian Corps in WWI where the best troops there and in WWII still held that title. They were even respected by the regular german army. (not the SS though cause they theyre Nazis)
Fav part of this film is where he tells the German negotiator to go to hell or as he puts it -: Im sorry we cant accept your surrender and the german is like WHAT!?!??!?!?!
As much as I love war movies involving the Americans, I always think it's interesting to see movies from other people's points of view, like the British, the French, or even the Germans. That's what makes movies great, being able to watch them from anyone's point of view.
@xXShortEmoKidXx Unfortunately we don't get war films like these nowadays, almost everything is Hollywoodised to a degree, all us Brits make these days are TV dramas or docu-dramas.
@Anders2185 I don't mind dramatizing the truth a bit, but these days, war movies are about special effects, not the soldiers, the hardships they went through, the mental strain, the comradery; now it's all about explosions.
@xXShortEmoKidXx Same here, give me those 1950s war movies any day, I don't mind a slight dramatisation, but blatant distortions i can't stand *cough* U-571. BOB and the Pacific were great. I've got some good BBC docu/dramas on my channel you fancied a look.
@Anders2185 I'll check those out. The only newer war movies I like are Saving Private Ryan and Black Hawk Down. I think my favorite is All Quiet on the Western Front, though.
There are maybe 5 "war movie " themes that stand out as the all time best this is one of them. The others are (in no order) Patton, Bridge Over The River Kwai, The Longest Day and the Great Escape. Each has a terrific sound track to go along with them as well. Thanks for posting this. Bye the way all the books were better than the movies.
thats it we convince the Germans that we are attacking Germany from the Italian border then invade strike Holland that how we succeeded at d day. they wont even no what hit them.
@Anders2185 i meant if they attacked Nijmegan from both sides it would tighten the gap round the Nazi forces and then the tanks could take the bridge and the sorounded Nazi forces and destroy them.
@jorcastify Yeah but the Brits at Arnhem were 15 miles away and completely surrounded by 1000s of SS troops how would they get to the north end of the Nijmegan bridge on foot to help?
@jorcastify That's an idea, but the area around the northern end of the Nijmegan bridge was swamped in SS troops to, finding a safe drop zone close to the Nijmegan bridge at short notice would be tough, plus the only other Airborne troops we had were the British 6th Airborne and they had only just returned to England in early Sept from the front.
@Anders2185 thats it half the american 101st airborne get the boats and get across the river then take the bridge and then rodevouse with the resty of the forces
@jorcastify Many Germans considered it their greatest defeat. beating the british at Arnhem meant it was Russia and not the Western Allies that got to Berlin first. If Operation Market Garden ahd beena success it would of changed the cold war entirely.
This music captures the entire event well. It starts with so much jubilation, so much enthusiasm for the coming job...an enthusiasm that the British 1st Airborne Division never gave up at Arnehm. If you haven't read the book yet, I strongly recommend that you do. The actions of the Red Devils at Arnehm go beyond words; there's simply no way to describe their fighting spirit and tenacity.
@penroff4 The division was still destroyed by two very understrengh SS panzer divs made up of ethnic Germans, the two Panzer divs were so depleted by the Normandy fighting, I think the British even outnumbered them, But its probably pretty hard to stop a Panther with a Piat. The British and Americans had all the resources on their side, notice how the English very seldom beat the Germans on the ground unless they had overwhelming force, Germany was way way spent by this time in the War!!!
@b52gf16c You're correct, the Brt 1st Airborne did outnumber the II Pz Corp; but the Germans had the support of the 1st Para Army as well as the German 15th Army. Although these units were heavily depleted from the battles in France, they were still far from "way spent". The Red Devils were supposed to hold Arnhem Bridge for 4 days; they held it for w/o proper anti tank weapons for 4 days with only 700 of the 10,000 strong division. The division would go on to hold Arnhem for another 5 days.
@jpank11 I take it by comment #8 your English, I would love to see you Limey's take on a prime example of the Wehrmacht in its prime one on one, oh lets see like Army Group Center 1941 versus the entire British Army. I think the Germans would have stomped your whole Army (like a narc at a biker rally) with just one of their top Groups , but to be fair to you English you had military evacuations perfected to an exact science by that time (so maybe your losses would have not been that bad)
I'm honestly flabbergasted by your vagrant praise of Germany. All your comments and responses have you defending the "depleted Wehrmacht" at every turn and attacking that if it had been a "fair fight" that Germany would have won hands down. Why do you take it so personal that they loss? Why the fuck does it upset you that people you seem to deem inferior (I doubt you think highly of Russia) beat Germany? Why don't you appreciate the evil they ended that your dear Germany embraced?
The English clearly didn't win the war, but they held on when it was tough, when it was easy to give up. They fought valiantly, determined to do their duty. But you have such a hard on for Germany you seem to either ignore or approve of who they fought for. Read your history, they didn't fight for Germany, they fought for the National socialist party. They fought for the eradication of millions of innocents.
@jpank11 Lets be honest the British 8th army ( a very lavishly equipped Army) had a hard enough time against two very small, ill supplied German formations in the African theater. The litany of English disasters aganist a prime Germany early in the war is a lot of information to digest- Norway, France, Greece, Crete ect ect. You people had a good Airforce, but in a fair fight you cant match the Germans on the ground and you know it and to be fair nor could the Americans either!!!
@b52gf16c True, but the topic wasn't about the Brits action to the Germans. The topic was about the Red Devils. Bittrich, the II Pz Corp's leader, said himself Brit 1st: "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." If you compare Brits to the Germans, its true that one army beat the other. The Brits naval and air exploits more than made up for this. In fact, it would be the Brits system for close air support that laid the ground work for the modern systems of today.
@penroff4 So why did you call me a moron, if you agree with me so much?? Im sorry there may be exceptions to the general rule (like Arnhem) but on a whole I was not very impressed with British military prowess in both World Wars (regardless of the fact that they were on the winning side) The Western powers essentialy let the Germans and Russians bleed to death (no wonder the Soviets did not trust the West after the war) and came in at the end to defeat a very weakened Germany, bravo Allies!!!!
@b52gf16c I did not call you a moron, jpank11 did. Again, the video focuses on Operation Market Garden and my original comment itself focused on the British 1st Airborne Division. So while I see some merit in your summary of the forces involved in Europe, the focus of this video (and of my original comment) was not the entire British military c. 1944, but of the Red Devils.
@b52gf16c the british were cautious in the way they used their men in battle look at the size of britain compared to russia usa germany,russia used their troops as cannon fodder mass attacks what a waste but then look who was in charge that murdering bastard stalin then did,nt russia ally with germany as for trust the soviet people were paranoid with each other as for trust.read george orwell,s animal farm.......
@bloodyblade24 Well golly thanks for connecting the dots on that, all these yrs now and I thought we won over there, hmmm maybe thats why they call Siagon- Ho Chi Minh city now. What a silly comparison WW1 and WW2 with Vietnam, WW1 and WW2 were wars of survival for England vs Vietnam a war of choice for the USA. Dude just face it the British Army in both world wars just could not compete with Germany (until Germany was nearly bled to death from essentially fighting almost the whole planet)
I really don't understand you. You say the British couldn't stand the Germans yet the Germans never won. Bloodyblade's comparison to Vietnam is dead on because like the America's, you can't accept that Germany lost, no excuses. What really goad's me is how you seem to champion the third Reich. You'll probably respond to the tune of, no I only champion the Wehrmacht, but they were one and the same. Manstien knew, Guderian knew, and most generals embraced Hitler's murder campaign. GTFO.
@jpank11 Dude WW1 and WW2 vs Vietnam is apples and oranges there is no comparison what so ever. I dont agree with Nazi Policys, but what the German army was able to accomplish (with a population base of 65 million and the Nations economy not even on a real war footing until the middle of 43 was very impressive) and I hold the same praise for the Israeli defense force(which has even less scant resources). Be honest The US/UK/USSR had the resource base and Germany didnt- its called attrition!!!!!
@jpank11 Where are you from?? I just got back from Scotland last week, but I have to go back to Cardiff in about 10 days maybe we could meet and discuss WW2 at a Tesco (with a coffee bar) they have the best chocolate chip shortbread on the Planet (even better than German shortbread) little joke dont worry about it. Have you ever been to Bovington (Panzer museum) I can say with out fear of cotradiction its the best Tank Museum on the Planet its far better than any thing in the USA or even Munster
Studying is one thing, you troll videos attacking people who lauded the 1st airborne. They didn't say Ike or Monty was the best, just that the men Arnhem were hero's for trying. Yes Germany had some of the best generals & equipment. Yet the worse off allied soldiers came anyway. From the assault on Arnehm, to the close run defense of Russia in '41, they still fought as inferior as they were, a fact they were aware of. They weren't the best. They fought regardless.
WW2 & Vietnam are apples & oranges. Your reluctance to let go of a conflict that happened much before your time, to let go of a side you claim to not support, to not recognize the bravery in all sides, is just like that of America's denial with Vietnam. Fuck the battle, you lost the war.
Studying the Wehrmacht isn't wrong; it's an interesting topic. You're immature though because you troll people who fought for the freedoms of others simply because you have a hard on for the Germans.
@jpank11 I have already explained to you my reasons and to be honest The Israeli IDF impresses me more as far as military prowess goes. You keep bringing up Vietnam ( like you think that the USA is in some denial that we lost over there, of course we lost that rotten pointless war) that why, it was a war of choice and our national survival was not at stake. Only a lunatic could compare WW2 with Vietnam!!!!
@b52gf16c I agree with you on you argument, my grandfather was a bomber pilot for the 2nd airborne division in the USA. As much as i dislike the Nazi's, they had some great generals like Rommel and other commanders. (But so did the U.S.) I dont really see why jpank11 says you're a Nazi sympathizer. You seem nice enough to offer him coffee and a chat. But it's Veteran's day today, so everyone should rejoice! Not fight over something stupid.
@madmike19682003 You have the balls to criticize an Army that has literally constantly fought against far superior numbers and equipment. A tiny nation of 6.5 million surrounded by 250,000,000 Arabs and the IDF still comes out a head 95% of the time. You are an intellectual midget!!!
@b52gf16c first off shithead the arab armies have always been a complete joke. second israel is almost completely subsidised by western powers like the u.s.. and third have you ever served in that part of the world? i have and i'm amazed most arab troops could even find israel on a map.
@madmike19682003 Even a Joke Army that outnumbers it foe 10 to 1 should be able to come out on top every once and a while. Israel receives foreign aid, as does Egypt and a host of other countries, Israel gets a little over 3 billion per yr in aid which is small considering the size of their economy, its not money-- its credits that they can only spend in the US. Ohh no I have not served in that part of the World, I lived there? I get the vibe you are scumbag US navy type, no doubt enlisted!!!!
@b52gf16c wrong shitbag. i was a marine but i was enlisted and i spent about a year there. but the israelis have not really been outnumbered that bad ever. not even close d-bag. check the order of battle for each arab israeli war.
@madmike19682003 Its worse than I thought Marines are even less intellectual then US Navy types, The Israelis have been far outnumbered in almost every conflict they have fought with the Arabs. Lets use you're logic then, the US outnumbered the North Vietnamese and Viet cong vastly, they should have won quickly then/ wrong O. I would put an Israeli brigade over a Marine brigade any day of the week. ck out what the IDF did in Uganda vs the US fuckup/complete disaster In Iran a few yrs later!!
@b52gf16c first off how would you know? what branch of the armed forces did you serve in? what was your job? and check out how the israeli's did in lebanon a few years ago. the facts are undeniable the israelis have never fought a enemy nearly as good as what the u.s. went up against in nearly all of our wars.
@madmike19682003 You're an Idiot The US got in the WW1 against a badly depleted Germany, again in WW2 80% of the German Army was fighting in Russia on top of that it was their best units fighting in Russia, what the Western Allies had to face was not of the same caliber as the Russians. Korea at best a draw, Vietnam a fucking disaster, Iraq 1 we give you some credit(the Israelis had already bombed Iraq a few times yrs before) Iraq 2 fucking disaster, Afghanistan wait and see, give me a break!!
@b52gf16c once again chucklehead what branch of the armed forces did you serve in? what was your job? also read about the battle of the bulge or other battles where the u.s. fought the finest units the germans had. we also fought a second war against the japanese. once again the israeli's have never fought a enemy of that calibre.
@madmike19682003 OMG dude the Germans were so spent by the Battle of the Bulge its pathetic for you to even mention that, hell a large portion of the units the US and Uk fought in Normandy were not even German (they had hardly nothing left by that point) Germany had lost the creme of there Army in Russia yrs before and the Japenese had been fighting since the 30s as for me I was in the AF on B-52s You're right the Israelis have always fought against a fresh army unlike the US!!
@b52gf16c most of the german forces at the battle of the bulge were the cream of the crop of what the germans had. and once again the israeli's have NEVER fought a enemy even remotely as tough pound for pound as the germans of ww2 or the communists of the cold war. still waiting for you reply on your military service but i'm betting it's gonna be a long wait.
@madmike19682003 You are so wrong on German military power DEC 44 its scary, read the order of battle ( a large portion of the German units there were Volkstrum- old men/young boys and they had very limited supplies also and hardly any air cover ) I told you I was in the Airforce on B-52s and again using you're logic we had at best a draw and then a huge loss in the Cold war!!
@b52gf16c kinda like how the lebanese have shown the israeli's the door a few times? were you a pilot or mechanic? plus the worst german units would be vastly superior to most arab units i've seen.
@madmike19682003 Are you even aware that the Arabs had active Russian military units manning critical points in their countries. Or that the IAF had to also fight against Russian, East German and other Soviet block countries aircraft and piliots and you have the temerity to question a tiny nations military prowess when surrounded by such threats 6.5 million Israelis vs 250,000,000 Arabs. I wonder what would happen to the USA if it was facing those kind of odds!!!
@b52gf16c kinda hard to tell since no other country is giving the kind of proportional aid the israelis get but if we were facing a army of poorly trained peasant conscripts led by officers who were barely better and got the commission as a result of family connections and were equiped with weapons vastly inferior to what we had we would win.
@madmike19682003 The USA has the smallest foreign aid budget per capita of any Western country and that was the deal at Camp David to pay Egypt and Israel to stop fighting and keep the economically vital Suez canal open. The US has already faced poorly trained peasant conscripts Korea/Vietnam and that did not work out to good for us. The Arab armies are all large and trained and with copious amounts of equipment and foreign aid, are you just pulling asseritions from the air????
@b52gf16c troops in korea and often vietnam were heavily outnumbered by the communists who were a vastly superior fighting force than anything the israeli's have ever fought. also when was the last time a arab and israeli army ever fought? 1973 since than it's been them chasing terrorists and teenagers with rocks and sticks to fight with. still waiting on that update about your military service war hero.
@madmike19682003 We were never outnumbered in Vietnam were in the fuck did you get that info. The Israelis fought the Syrians in Lebanon in the 80s (you do remember the 86-0 IAF victory over the Syrian AF at the time) plus the Israelis bombed Iraq in 81 and took out a nuclear reactor (weapons grade) lucky for Us
@b52gf16c there is no way you can compare the syrian air force to the german airforce. were you a pilot or a mechanic? also the nva lost more men than we had that served in vietnam so there were more communists than americans.
@madmike19682003 You are wrong again! nearly 3 million Americans served in Vietnam over 10plus yrs and the NVA did not lose 3 million dead soldiers. on top of that the South Vitenamese Army/ Police was larger then the US presence. I was a flying Crew Chief and I now work for a major hub and spoke Airline since 92
@b52gf16c i figured you were a pogue of some sort. the nva lost about 2.5 million according to the best estimates. granted that's men lost to disease as well as combat. about 2.7 million americans set foot in vietnam with a additional 600,000 serving at one time or another offshore on ships or bomber crews flying overhead. and the nva were way tougher than anything the israeli's ever saw.
@madmike19682003 Pogue would be appropriate if I was in the Army or Marine corps numbnuts. Again thou lets use you're logic, we lost badly in Vietnam and the Israelis have destroyed the Arab national armies nearly everytime at bat (kinda hard to be critical) I hope that you googled Entebbe Uganda vs the US disaster in Iran, but I guess you are going to shit on that highly successful operation also!!
@madmike19682003 Puleeeese most men put into infrantry combat units our of low IQ, you're silly assertions have helped prove my point!!! Did you ck out the raid on Entebbe yet, the Israelis had to fly much farther with much older equipment then the US had in Iran yrs later and the score was- Israel got everyone out and only lost one soldier-- the US lost what 3 helicopters and a C-130, plus lots of dead and wounded and a aborted mission, IDF one--Delta force 0, You FAIL as usual!!!!!!!!
@b52gf16c bitch i aced the asvab. plus your dumb ass is using examples from 30 to 40 years ago which is like saying this pro football team is better because it won a super bowl 40 years ago. dumbass i never said the israeli's sucked i just said they never fought a real enemy just 4th rate losers. you fail as usual. i've forgotten more about combat than your sorry ass will ever know.
@madmike19682003 And you cant prove a negative, you are not giving credit when credit is due. You could say the same thing about the US (when have we ever faced a fresh enemy with as much resources as we had in the last 100 plus yrs, 99 times out of 100 we had the resources and the enemy didn't. Ohhh I am sure you are SGT Rock reincarnated, the truth is that any one who has been in serious combat could never understate an Army such as the IDF with such contempt (considering their combat record)
@madmike19682003 Its typical American trailer park mentality on you're part to think that the US is invincible and everyone else is 2nd rate. The UK and France wore the Germans down in WW1 and Russians attritted the Germans enough in WW2 for us to get into the war. since then we have a draw, two losses and who knows what in Afghanistan, its a poor combat record vs the IDF'S.
@b52gf16c i never said we were invincible you are just pulling that out of thin air. plus i grew up in a multi racial family in a home with 7 bedrooms,5 bathrooms,a doctor and lawyer for parents and i went to private schools and college. how does your family compare?
@madmike19682003 Bullshit you are one of those Americans who think D-Day changed the course of the war while in the 3 yrs prior to that the Russians had lost nearly 27 million of their citizens and soldiers grinding the Germans down until it was safe for us to land in France against 2nd and 3rd rate German formations. The truth is the US/UK let the Russians and Germans bleed to death until the Germans were attrited enough for us to defeat and hopefully the USSR would not be a postwar threat!!!
@b52gf16c i never said anything about the u.s. in ww2. i was just saying you can't compare the IDF to our military as it's like apples and oranges. and the the trailer park comment was low considering your the most close minded and bigoted person i know. sailors are scumbags? marines are worse? all grunts are stupid? some generalisation and false. plus how would you even know?
@madmike19682003 I should not have said that about the Marines and Navy, but I get defensive about Israel. Because if you have never been there you cant appreciate what the security situation is.You literally can not drive down the highway for ten minutes without seeing the Airforce scramble their jets to some perceived threat. Plus you walk into a mall in Tel Aviv if there are 2000 people there, 1000 of them will be Armed soldiers shopping also. We were born in the right geography in the US!!
@b52gf16c fair enough but you can't really compare 2 countries like that. it's apples and oranges. hell i think switzerland has the best army in the world...for defending switzerland. IDF troops defend 1 small area against basically 1 enemy in the marines we literally had to be able to fight in any clime and place. i did mountain,desert,urban and jungle training. well you get the point. i never served with IDF troops but i did deal with arabs....not exactly the toughest foreign troops i saw.
@madmike19682003 We lived in shitty apartments and were lower middle class when I was growing up in Florida. My question to you is, you went to private schools and college and you found yourself in the enlisted ranks ( thats pretty sad, next time dont volunteer that much information!!) What do you do for a living now????
@b52gf16c i went into the service before college as i didn't want to be a burden on my parents and because i thought it would be a adventure i also do think if you receive the benefits of living in this country you should have to do something for it. so maybe i was idealistic. i work for a commercial airline mostly for the adventure. hey i get bored easily.
@madmike19682003 I have a problem with you're assertions, because you have never been to Israel. Its a tiny nation surrounded by nothing but pain and threats and you have the audacity (considering the American combat record since 45) to suggest that they are only up against chopped liver. Thats pretty arrogant considering that the US has only one clear victory since 1945 and under you're instructions it was against 4th rate opposition!!
@madmike19682003 I want to be congenial to you for a bit, where are you from, what do you do for a living. I have been with a major hub and spoke airline since 92 when I left the Airforce.
@b52gf16c i was raised in tennessee by 2 great parents with 9 other kids. many of us were adopted and came from all races. we were raised devout catholics so that explains the school. i went to college for a year than joined the marines because i think everyone has a duty to help defend this country especially if you came from a rich or middle class background. and i wanted the travel and adventure to be honest. so yeah i was a romantic idealist you could say. did 4 years got out and went back.
@madmike19682003 i think the wifi is acting up so i'm gonna have to go slow. got out of the service after serving with a very diverse group of people which was a shock for me having to deal with stupid as well as smart people. something going to school with the sons and daughters of scientists and engineers didn't prepare me for at all. i served with all kinds on ship and shore. went back to school and basically became a jack of all trades but master of none. i feel like i did it all.lol
@madmike19682003 Tennessee and a comercial airline hunnnnn. let me guess who you work for Maybe Delta since they took over Northwest. I was just in TRI Cities TENN fixing a plane 2 weeks ago, and I got back from Spain/Portugal 2 days ago on vacation. All kidding aside dont type who you work for its not a good ideal!!
@madmike19682003 You know the other thing about Entebbe in the IDFS favor, they did not have a trained terrorist unit at the time (like Delta Force) the men were picked from various brigades in a hurry, so their operation is even that much more impressive considering our complete disaster (with more resources no less) in Iran yrs later!!
@madmike19682003 One other thing, using you're logic the US should get very little credit for its victory over Iraq in 91 (essentially our only victory since 1945). yea lets play by you're rules
this man pointed a gun at me and I want you to place him under arrest for at least 10 seconds.... just count to ten real quick..... 1-2-3 like that.... yes... 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10........ thank you.....
i started whistling this in an elevator the other day when i noticed everyone looking at me so i told them what movie it was from then a couple days later i saw them in the same elevator and most of us were whistling it lol
yes, yes, everything is awful, this film, movies in general, the whole humanity is dreadful... I think we should shut down the whole planet and give it back to the Creator... LOL :-)))))
My fathers regiment played a big par in this battle but hardly receive any acknowledgement for the part they played. They were the glider borne troops of the 2nd Battalion South Staffordshire Regiment.
Real Bridge at Arnhem was removed and rebuilt as a medium scale bridge. Because during the war the bridge took quite a beating and caught fire from the German ammo dump.
This is wonderful film music. It bears no relation to the suffering of each individual soldier. Bless every one of them, but no film or any film music will ever do any of them any justice. The composer here attempts to grasp what all of them wanted to achieve - defeat of evil, in glorious failure, and glory despite of defeat is achieved. I salute them all.
This is wonderful film music. It bears no relation to the suffering of each individual soldier. Bless each and every one of them, but no film or any film music will ever do any of them any justice. The composer here attempts to grasp what all of them wanted to achieve - defeat of evil, in glorious failure, and glory despite of defeat is achieved. I salute them all.
You know what's odd is without the Nazis I don't think cinema would be all that great if it came to war films. I have always been fascinated by the Third Reich. Truly a real Regime formed by the people that personify mankind. Long Live the Fatherland!
@ebedgert Gee instead of providing worthy insights german to anything relevant to this video therein you simply extend yourself to such an extent as some critic of comments. Talk about all the "Chuck Norris" comments on many forums and you call mine this juvenile garbage "trolling" - well live long and prosper in Mommy's basement. Honestly you made no sense.
I miss the old war films, with gripping plots and beautiful music behidn them. Now the best we get is a pathetic love affair in what was supposed to be the bloodiest fight of WW1.
A good film...thanks largely to Spielberg not being involved and rewritting history as per bloody usual....the way he rerwrites you would think the Yanks did everything.........didnt see them in 1940 in a hurrican or Spitfire did we.....
how can someone not like this the film is fairly accurate but the brits got massacared they fell into the bear pit and got torn to shreads it is a place i want to visit to pay respects to our brave dead.
@timothy19681 I've been to the areas that Operation Market Garden took place in (Grave, Eindhoven, Arnhem etc) its a great experience, plenty of museums to visit, but the most memorable part of my trip was speaking to a Dutch man in one of the cemeteries who was a boy living in Oosterbeek when the allies landed there, it was very interesting, I'll never forget that.
this was a fantastic movie and steve maqueen was supposed to be in it, but he had a huge ego and demanded that he was the main star. He was cut and james caan took the part he was to get. man, the nerve of some actors!!
One of my patients brothers was killed near Arnhem and is buried in the airbourne cemetry.She was only 4 at the time but still remembers him vividly.These men were dropped into a hornets nest by our illustrious leaders and it is to their credit that they fought heroically in the face of impossible odds.I have met two of the survivors and they both told me that the operation was doomed from the start due to a traitor within the dutch resistance.However they have nothing but praise for the Dutch.
My great grandpa crushed his ankle during rehearsal for this operation. He couldent go so his unit went and almost all of them were killed. It makes me think of all the kids I could actually know but I dont because their forefathers were killed in things like this...
LaneTheSlain 1 day ago
It may be a classic but i refuse to watch it. I'm one of those people who likes a war film with a good ending, like Battle of Britain
TalonMercenary 1 week ago 2
@TalonMercenary I saw the picture...and it has a good ending. England has won the war!
Btw I´m german :-)
Eyyoh77 3 days ago
@Eyyoh77 haha, i am in denial, i should see it! Good ending or not! :D
TalonMercenary 3 days ago
lukusism
That will be the PWRR then now the finest infantry regt in the British Army......I served in the Queens regiment then the finest in the Brit Army go for it young un...
simon8382 1 month ago
OK - what do I need to say: My dad cycled up to Friesland to get food aged 9 with two small sisters in tow, his older brothers went into hiding to avoid working in Germany, my mum lost a brother to leukemia. Damn to all strategists. Let's just all agree this is wonderful film music. It won't ever do any of the soldiers who fought at Arnhem any justice. But I salute them all.
padoomtish 1 month ago 4
i never insulted the israeli's i simply said they never fought a really tough enemy so it's tough to judge them. plus i've noticed that you seem to gloat over america's defeats and often glorify our past enemies. it's kinda disturbing. plus you have a very bad habit of not just making fun of people who disagree with you but of trashing entire groups of americans like sailors,marines,enlisted men...i'm sure the list goes on.
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This is wonderful film music. But no film or film music will ever do any of the soldiers who fought at Arnhem any justice. The composer here just tries to grasp what all of them wanted to achieve - defeat of evil and in the end glory despite defeat is achieved. I salute them all. I am Dutch by the way. My parents were kids and living in Rotterdam at the time. The place was obliterated.
padoomtish 2 months ago
Come on Hollywood make another movie like this.
Classicguy66 2 months ago
To bad HQ 1st Airborne Army diddnt listen to G2 about German armor being in the area of operations, Cant stop tanks with rifles and machineguns
Cage2053K 2 months ago
Don't make um' like they used to...
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Whatever81417 2 months ago
the best theme of all movies about war
youtpfpm 3 months ago
Another miserable and farcical disaster, caused by our own utterly useless top brass! ( just as the BEF disaster was in 1940 ) and where the price for it, was paid, as per usual ,by our brave soldiers and not those responsible for the mess !
AnAutumnsDay 3 months ago 12
@AnAutumnsDay Montgomery was a disaster for the average british soldier.
panzerjack33 2 months ago
@AnAutumnsDay You're all talk, stop trying to be a leader.
zerker12568901 2 months ago
@AnAutumnsDay Are you talking about the movie or the "Market Garden"?
RunkkaajaApina 2 weeks ago
No one will understand what it was like at Arnham unless you where there. Operation Market Garden was a disater yes. Mostly becaue of bad planing.
To do something knowing there is more than a good chance you won't becoming back and do it anyway that to me is true courage and bravery.
melina001a 3 months ago
RIP Great Men who fought and died performing their dutyfor their country even if it was ultimately wrong =(
HamanKarn567 3 months ago
My grandad was wounded just outside nijmegen trying to reach the brave boys in the parachute regiment after fighting his way ashore in the first wave on gold beach with 1st battalion the hampshire regiment. He was 19. He inspired me to the point where I'm joining the army, I never had the chance to tell him properly and he died earlier this year, he was an incredible man who touched the hearts of everyone who knew him. RIP ernie boy, I love you and miss you more than words can say.
lukusism 3 months ago 14
@lukusism Thanks, he's a hreo!
spareaxe 2 months ago
My respect goes out to your Grandad, may he rest in peace, a unsung hero.
portwerk 1 month ago
As an American i clearly recognize the Brits contributions to the war, their efforts at Arnhem moved me, and at the end of the movie with the retreat and singing "Abide with me" well i almost cried.
Trashcansam123 4 months ago
@Trashcansam123 Its such a beautiful sound to such a good film, and a bloody good read too.
datsome80 3 months ago
every keeps saying they want to see war from a british or french point of view.
you NEVER see any CANADIANS though dont you?
the Canadian Corps in WWI where the best troops there and in WWII still held that title. They were even respected by the regular german army. (not the SS though cause they theyre Nazis)
LIEUTENANTLOLATRON 4 months ago
A Bridge Too Fucking Far.
CueWunAye 4 months ago
I was so happy to see a movie where at least the Germans were personified as the victors - well half and half. Long Live the Fatherland!
DetroitLove4U 5 months ago
Fav part of this film is where he tells the German negotiator to go to hell or as he puts it -: Im sorry we cant accept your surrender and the german is like WHAT!?!??!?!?!
DuskAstartes 5 months ago
As much as I love war movies involving the Americans, I always think it's interesting to see movies from other people's points of view, like the British, the French, or even the Germans. That's what makes movies great, being able to watch them from anyone's point of view.
xXShortEmoKidXx 5 months ago
@xXShortEmoKidXx Unfortunately we don't get war films like these nowadays, almost everything is Hollywoodised to a degree, all us Brits make these days are TV dramas or docu-dramas.
Anders2185 5 months ago
@Anders2185 I don't mind dramatizing the truth a bit, but these days, war movies are about special effects, not the soldiers, the hardships they went through, the mental strain, the comradery; now it's all about explosions.
xXShortEmoKidXx 5 months ago
@xXShortEmoKidXx Same here, give me those 1950s war movies any day, I don't mind a slight dramatisation, but blatant distortions i can't stand *cough* U-571. BOB and the Pacific were great. I've got some good BBC docu/dramas on my channel you fancied a look.
Anders2185 5 months ago
@Anders2185 I'll check those out. The only newer war movies I like are Saving Private Ryan and Black Hawk Down. I think my favorite is All Quiet on the Western Front, though.
xXShortEmoKidXx 5 months ago
im sure Karl Otto Alberty was in the film i saw a scene with him in it
jorcastify 5 months ago
@jorcastify hes not in it, its not in his filmography on IMDB
Anders2185 5 months ago
There are maybe 5 "war movie " themes that stand out as the all time best this is one of them. The others are (in no order) Patton, Bridge Over The River Kwai, The Longest Day and the Great Escape. Each has a terrific sound track to go along with them as well. Thanks for posting this. Bye the way all the books were better than the movies.
towergrove100 5 months ago
@towergrove100 what about the battle of britain ?
nedsp1 5 months ago
@towergrove100 The battle of britain film has a great sound track as well and 633 squadron.
daggers93 5 months ago
thats it we convince the Germans that we are attacking Germany from the Italian border then invade strike Holland that how we succeeded at d day. they wont even no what hit them.
jorcastify 5 months ago
God Bless the lads that tried this plan to end the war quickly.
lazpolar72 5 months ago
if the british and american paratroopers had worked to gether taking the bridges they could of won at arham
jorcastify 5 months ago
@jorcastify They did work together, it was bad intelligence and allied command over confidence that caused this defeat.
Anders2185 5 months ago
@Anders2185 i meant if they attacked Nijmegan from both sides it would tighten the gap round the Nazi forces and then the tanks could take the bridge and the sorounded Nazi forces and destroy them.
jorcastify 5 months ago
@jorcastify Yeah but the Brits at Arnhem were 15 miles away and completely surrounded by 1000s of SS troops how would they get to the north end of the Nijmegan bridge on foot to help?
Anders2185 5 months ago
@Anders2185 a further landing could get them their
jorcastify 5 months ago
@jorcastify That's an idea, but the area around the northern end of the Nijmegan bridge was swamped in SS troops to, finding a safe drop zone close to the Nijmegan bridge at short notice would be tough, plus the only other Airborne troops we had were the British 6th Airborne and they had only just returned to England in early Sept from the front.
Anders2185 5 months ago
@Anders2185 thats it half the american 101st airborne get the boats and get across the river then take the bridge and then rodevouse with the resty of the forces
jorcastify 5 months ago
@jorcastify bless you for trying mate lol
Anders2185 5 months ago
@Anders2185 come on were both British southerners
jorcastify 5 months ago
it was a basic draw this battle because both sides suffered heavy casualties i wouldn't call it a Nazi triumph none of the Germans though it was
jorcastify 5 months ago
@jorcastify Many Germans considered it their greatest defeat. beating the british at Arnhem meant it was Russia and not the Western Allies that got to Berlin first. If Operation Market Garden ahd beena success it would of changed the cold war entirely.
Fallenkezef 5 months ago
@Fallenkezef i was probibly watching valkyrie to many times
jorcastify 5 months ago
the best war movie ever!
abc12319525 5 months ago
This music captures the entire event well. It starts with so much jubilation, so much enthusiasm for the coming job...an enthusiasm that the British 1st Airborne Division never gave up at Arnehm. If you haven't read the book yet, I strongly recommend that you do. The actions of the Red Devils at Arnehm go beyond words; there's simply no way to describe their fighting spirit and tenacity.
Whoa, Mohammed !
penroff4 6 months ago 24
@penroff4 The division was still destroyed by two very understrengh SS panzer divs made up of ethnic Germans, the two Panzer divs were so depleted by the Normandy fighting, I think the British even outnumbered them, But its probably pretty hard to stop a Panther with a Piat. The British and Americans had all the resources on their side, notice how the English very seldom beat the Germans on the ground unless they had overwhelming force, Germany was way way spent by this time in the War!!!
b52gf16c 6 months ago
@b52gf16c You're correct, the Brt 1st Airborne did outnumber the II Pz Corp; but the Germans had the support of the 1st Para Army as well as the German 15th Army. Although these units were heavily depleted from the battles in France, they were still far from "way spent". The Red Devils were supposed to hold Arnhem Bridge for 4 days; they held it for w/o proper anti tank weapons for 4 days with only 700 of the 10,000 strong division. The division would go on to hold Arnhem for another 5 days.
penroff4 6 months ago
@b52gf16c
1. It's tanks versus machine guns
2. the english were forced to attack in peicemale without tactical surprise
3. The 9th and 10th had been specialized in defending from airborne attacks
4. The british, due to a snafu, went without resupply throughout the entire fight
5. The british were cut off and seperated
6. "ethnic germans" has nothing to do with it
7. The numbers man wise were equal but again, the gers had TANKS
8. You're a moron <3
jpank11 6 months ago
@jpank11 I take it by comment #8 your English, I would love to see you Limey's take on a prime example of the Wehrmacht in its prime one on one, oh lets see like Army Group Center 1941 versus the entire British Army. I think the Germans would have stomped your whole Army (like a narc at a biker rally) with just one of their top Groups , but to be fair to you English you had military evacuations perfected to an exact science by that time (so maybe your losses would have not been that bad)
b52gf16c 6 months ago
@b52gf16c
I'm honestly flabbergasted by your vagrant praise of Germany. All your comments and responses have you defending the "depleted Wehrmacht" at every turn and attacking that if it had been a "fair fight" that Germany would have won hands down. Why do you take it so personal that they loss? Why the fuck does it upset you that people you seem to deem inferior (I doubt you think highly of Russia) beat Germany? Why don't you appreciate the evil they ended that your dear Germany embraced?
jpank11 4 months ago
@b52gf16c
The English clearly didn't win the war, but they held on when it was tough, when it was easy to give up. They fought valiantly, determined to do their duty. But you have such a hard on for Germany you seem to either ignore or approve of who they fought for. Read your history, they didn't fight for Germany, they fought for the National socialist party. They fought for the eradication of millions of innocents.
You're a keyboard warrior for the wrong side.
jpank11 4 months ago
@jpank11 Lets be honest the British 8th army ( a very lavishly equipped Army) had a hard enough time against two very small, ill supplied German formations in the African theater. The litany of English disasters aganist a prime Germany early in the war is a lot of information to digest- Norway, France, Greece, Crete ect ect. You people had a good Airforce, but in a fair fight you cant match the Germans on the ground and you know it and to be fair nor could the Americans either!!!
b52gf16c 6 months ago
@b52gf16c True, but the topic wasn't about the Brits action to the Germans. The topic was about the Red Devils. Bittrich, the II Pz Corp's leader, said himself Brit 1st: "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." If you compare Brits to the Germans, its true that one army beat the other. The Brits naval and air exploits more than made up for this. In fact, it would be the Brits system for close air support that laid the ground work for the modern systems of today.
penroff4 6 months ago
@penroff4 So why did you call me a moron, if you agree with me so much?? Im sorry there may be exceptions to the general rule (like Arnhem) but on a whole I was not very impressed with British military prowess in both World Wars (regardless of the fact that they were on the winning side) The Western powers essentialy let the Germans and Russians bleed to death (no wonder the Soviets did not trust the West after the war) and came in at the end to defeat a very weakened Germany, bravo Allies!!!!
b52gf16c 6 months ago
@b52gf16c I did not call you a moron, jpank11 did. Again, the video focuses on Operation Market Garden and my original comment itself focused on the British 1st Airborne Division. So while I see some merit in your summary of the forces involved in Europe, the focus of this video (and of my original comment) was not the entire British military c. 1944, but of the Red Devils.
penroff4 6 months ago
@b52gf16c the british were cautious in the way they used their men in battle look at the size of britain compared to russia usa germany,russia used their troops as cannon fodder mass attacks what a waste but then look who was in charge that murdering bastard stalin then did,nt russia ally with germany as for trust the soviet people were paranoid with each other as for trust.read george orwell,s animal farm.......
salian66 5 months ago
@b52gf16c moron
jpank11 5 months ago
@jpank11 The truth hurts dose it not, you are probably a Brit and dont want to accept reality!!!!
b52gf16c 5 months ago
@b52gf16c can you accept that America lost the Vietnam war
bloodyblade24 5 months ago
@bloodyblade24 Well golly thanks for connecting the dots on that, all these yrs now and I thought we won over there, hmmm maybe thats why they call Siagon- Ho Chi Minh city now. What a silly comparison WW1 and WW2 with Vietnam, WW1 and WW2 were wars of survival for England vs Vietnam a war of choice for the USA. Dude just face it the British Army in both world wars just could not compete with Germany (until Germany was nearly bled to death from essentially fighting almost the whole planet)
b52gf16c 5 months ago
@b52gf16c
I really don't understand you. You say the British couldn't stand the Germans yet the Germans never won. Bloodyblade's comparison to Vietnam is dead on because like the America's, you can't accept that Germany lost, no excuses. What really goad's me is how you seem to champion the third Reich. You'll probably respond to the tune of, no I only champion the Wehrmacht, but they were one and the same. Manstien knew, Guderian knew, and most generals embraced Hitler's murder campaign. GTFO.
jpank11 4 months ago
@jpank11 Dude WW1 and WW2 vs Vietnam is apples and oranges there is no comparison what so ever. I dont agree with Nazi Policys, but what the German army was able to accomplish (with a population base of 65 million and the Nations economy not even on a real war footing until the middle of 43 was very impressive) and I hold the same praise for the Israeli defense force(which has even less scant resources). Be honest The US/UK/USSR had the resource base and Germany didnt- its called attrition!!!!!
b52gf16c 4 months ago
@jpank11 Where are you from?? I just got back from Scotland last week, but I have to go back to Cardiff in about 10 days maybe we could meet and discuss WW2 at a Tesco (with a coffee bar) they have the best chocolate chip shortbread on the Planet (even better than German shortbread) little joke dont worry about it. Have you ever been to Bovington (Panzer museum) I can say with out fear of cotradiction its the best Tank Museum on the Planet its far better than any thing in the USA or even Munster
b52gf16c 4 months ago
@b52gf16c
Go fuck yourself
Studying is one thing, you troll videos attacking people who lauded the 1st airborne. They didn't say Ike or Monty was the best, just that the men Arnhem were hero's for trying. Yes Germany had some of the best generals & equipment. Yet the worse off allied soldiers came anyway. From the assault on Arnehm, to the close run defense of Russia in '41, they still fought as inferior as they were, a fact they were aware of. They weren't the best. They fought regardless.
jpank11 4 months ago
@b52gf16c
WW2 & Vietnam are apples & oranges. Your reluctance to let go of a conflict that happened much before your time, to let go of a side you claim to not support, to not recognize the bravery in all sides, is just like that of America's denial with Vietnam. Fuck the battle, you lost the war.
Studying the Wehrmacht isn't wrong; it's an interesting topic. You're immature though because you troll people who fought for the freedoms of others simply because you have a hard on for the Germans.
jpank11 4 months ago
@jpank11 I have already explained to you my reasons and to be honest The Israeli IDF impresses me more as far as military prowess goes. You keep bringing up Vietnam ( like you think that the USA is in some denial that we lost over there, of course we lost that rotten pointless war) that why, it was a war of choice and our national survival was not at stake. Only a lunatic could compare WW2 with Vietnam!!!!
b52gf16c 4 months ago 3
@b52gf16c I agree with you on you argument, my grandfather was a bomber pilot for the 2nd airborne division in the USA. As much as i dislike the Nazi's, they had some great generals like Rommel and other commanders. (But so did the U.S.) I dont really see why jpank11 says you're a Nazi sympathizer. You seem nice enough to offer him coffee and a chat. But it's Veteran's day today, so everyone should rejoice! Not fight over something stupid.
fraginfrins 3 months ago
@b52gf16c the problem with the IDF is they have never fought a real enemy.
madmike19682003 1 month ago
@madmike19682003 You have the balls to criticize an Army that has literally constantly fought against far superior numbers and equipment. A tiny nation of 6.5 million surrounded by 250,000,000 Arabs and the IDF still comes out a head 95% of the time. You are an intellectual midget!!!
b52gf16c 1 month ago
@b52gf16c first off shithead the arab armies have always been a complete joke. second israel is almost completely subsidised by western powers like the u.s.. and third have you ever served in that part of the world? i have and i'm amazed most arab troops could even find israel on a map.
madmike19682003 1 month ago
@madmike19682003 Even a Joke Army that outnumbers it foe 10 to 1 should be able to come out on top every once and a while. Israel receives foreign aid, as does Egypt and a host of other countries, Israel gets a little over 3 billion per yr in aid which is small considering the size of their economy, its not money-- its credits that they can only spend in the US. Ohh no I have not served in that part of the World, I lived there? I get the vibe you are scumbag US navy type, no doubt enlisted!!!!
b52gf16c 1 month ago
@b52gf16c wrong shitbag. i was a marine but i was enlisted and i spent about a year there. but the israelis have not really been outnumbered that bad ever. not even close d-bag. check the order of battle for each arab israeli war.
madmike19682003 1 month ago
@madmike19682003 Its worse than I thought Marines are even less intellectual then US Navy types, The Israelis have been far outnumbered in almost every conflict they have fought with the Arabs. Lets use you're logic then, the US outnumbered the North Vietnamese and Viet cong vastly, they should have won quickly then/ wrong O. I would put an Israeli brigade over a Marine brigade any day of the week. ck out what the IDF did in Uganda vs the US fuckup/complete disaster In Iran a few yrs later!!
b52gf16c 1 month ago
@b52gf16c first off how would you know? what branch of the armed forces did you serve in? what was your job? and check out how the israeli's did in lebanon a few years ago. the facts are undeniable the israelis have never fought a enemy nearly as good as what the u.s. went up against in nearly all of our wars.
madmike19682003 1 month ago
@madmike19682003 You're an Idiot The US got in the WW1 against a badly depleted Germany, again in WW2 80% of the German Army was fighting in Russia on top of that it was their best units fighting in Russia, what the Western Allies had to face was not of the same caliber as the Russians. Korea at best a draw, Vietnam a fucking disaster, Iraq 1 we give you some credit(the Israelis had already bombed Iraq a few times yrs before) Iraq 2 fucking disaster, Afghanistan wait and see, give me a break!!
b52gf16c 1 month ago
@b52gf16c once again chucklehead what branch of the armed forces did you serve in? what was your job? also read about the battle of the bulge or other battles where the u.s. fought the finest units the germans had. we also fought a second war against the japanese. once again the israeli's have never fought a enemy of that calibre.
madmike19682003 1 month ago
@madmike19682003 OMG dude the Germans were so spent by the Battle of the Bulge its pathetic for you to even mention that, hell a large portion of the units the US and Uk fought in Normandy were not even German (they had hardly nothing left by that point) Germany had lost the creme of there Army in Russia yrs before and the Japenese had been fighting since the 30s as for me I was in the AF on B-52s You're right the Israelis have always fought against a fresh army unlike the US!!
b52gf16c 1 month ago
@b52gf16c most of the german forces at the battle of the bulge were the cream of the crop of what the germans had. and once again the israeli's have NEVER fought a enemy even remotely as tough pound for pound as the germans of ww2 or the communists of the cold war. still waiting for you reply on your military service but i'm betting it's gonna be a long wait.
madmike19682003 1 month ago
@madmike19682003 You are so wrong on German military power DEC 44 its scary, read the order of battle ( a large portion of the German units there were Volkstrum- old men/young boys and they had very limited supplies also and hardly any air cover ) I told you I was in the Airforce on B-52s and again using you're logic we had at best a draw and then a huge loss in the Cold war!!
b52gf16c 1 month ago
@b52gf16c kinda like how the lebanese have shown the israeli's the door a few times? were you a pilot or mechanic? plus the worst german units would be vastly superior to most arab units i've seen.
madmike19682003 1 month ago
@madmike19682003 Are you even aware that the Arabs had active Russian military units manning critical points in their countries. Or that the IAF had to also fight against Russian, East German and other Soviet block countries aircraft and piliots and you have the temerity to question a tiny nations military prowess when surrounded by such threats 6.5 million Israelis vs 250,000,000 Arabs. I wonder what would happen to the USA if it was facing those kind of odds!!!
b52gf16c 1 month ago
@b52gf16c kinda hard to tell since no other country is giving the kind of proportional aid the israelis get but if we were facing a army of poorly trained peasant conscripts led by officers who were barely better and got the commission as a result of family connections and were equiped with weapons vastly inferior to what we had we would win.
madmike19682003 1 month ago
@madmike19682003 The USA has the smallest foreign aid budget per capita of any Western country and that was the deal at Camp David to pay Egypt and Israel to stop fighting and keep the economically vital Suez canal open. The US has already faced poorly trained peasant conscripts Korea/Vietnam and that did not work out to good for us. The Arab armies are all large and trained and with copious amounts of equipment and foreign aid, are you just pulling asseritions from the air????
b52gf16c 1 month ago
@b52gf16c troops in korea and often vietnam were heavily outnumbered by the communists who were a vastly superior fighting force than anything the israeli's have ever fought. also when was the last time a arab and israeli army ever fought? 1973 since than it's been them chasing terrorists and teenagers with rocks and sticks to fight with. still waiting on that update about your military service war hero.
madmike19682003 1 month ago
@madmike19682003 We were never outnumbered in Vietnam were in the fuck did you get that info. The Israelis fought the Syrians in Lebanon in the 80s (you do remember the 86-0 IAF victory over the Syrian AF at the time) plus the Israelis bombed Iraq in 81 and took out a nuclear reactor (weapons grade) lucky for Us
b52gf16c 1 month ago
@b52gf16c there is no way you can compare the syrian air force to the german airforce. were you a pilot or a mechanic? also the nva lost more men than we had that served in vietnam so there were more communists than americans.
madmike19682003 1 month ago
@madmike19682003 You are wrong again! nearly 3 million Americans served in Vietnam over 10plus yrs and the NVA did not lose 3 million dead soldiers. on top of that the South Vitenamese Army/ Police was larger then the US presence. I was a flying Crew Chief and I now work for a major hub and spoke Airline since 92
b52gf16c 1 month ago
@b52gf16c i figured you were a pogue of some sort. the nva lost about 2.5 million according to the best estimates. granted that's men lost to disease as well as combat. about 2.7 million americans set foot in vietnam with a additional 600,000 serving at one time or another offshore on ships or bomber crews flying overhead. and the nva were way tougher than anything the israeli's ever saw.
madmike19682003 1 month ago
@madmike19682003 Pogue would be appropriate if I was in the Army or Marine corps numbnuts. Again thou lets use you're logic, we lost badly in Vietnam and the Israelis have destroyed the Arab national armies nearly everytime at bat (kinda hard to be critical) I hope that you googled Entebbe Uganda vs the US disaster in Iran, but I guess you are going to shit on that highly successful operation also!!
b52gf16c 1 month ago
@b52gf16c pogue refers also to any loser who can't hack it in a ground combat unit. your knowledge of war comes from books mine does not shithead.
madmike19682003 1 month ago
@madmike19682003 Puleeeese most men put into infrantry combat units our of low IQ, you're silly assertions have helped prove my point!!! Did you ck out the raid on Entebbe yet, the Israelis had to fly much farther with much older equipment then the US had in Iran yrs later and the score was- Israel got everyone out and only lost one soldier-- the US lost what 3 helicopters and a C-130, plus lots of dead and wounded and a aborted mission, IDF one--Delta force 0, You FAIL as usual!!!!!!!!
b52gf16c 1 month ago
@b52gf16c bitch i aced the asvab. plus your dumb ass is using examples from 30 to 40 years ago which is like saying this pro football team is better because it won a super bowl 40 years ago. dumbass i never said the israeli's sucked i just said they never fought a real enemy just 4th rate losers. you fail as usual. i've forgotten more about combat than your sorry ass will ever know.
madmike19682003 1 month ago
@madmike19682003 And you cant prove a negative, you are not giving credit when credit is due. You could say the same thing about the US (when have we ever faced a fresh enemy with as much resources as we had in the last 100 plus yrs, 99 times out of 100 we had the resources and the enemy didn't. Ohhh I am sure you are SGT Rock reincarnated, the truth is that any one who has been in serious combat could never understate an Army such as the IDF with such contempt (considering their combat record)
b52gf16c 1 month ago
@madmike19682003 Its typical American trailer park mentality on you're part to think that the US is invincible and everyone else is 2nd rate. The UK and France wore the Germans down in WW1 and Russians attritted the Germans enough in WW2 for us to get into the war. since then we have a draw, two losses and who knows what in Afghanistan, its a poor combat record vs the IDF'S.
b52gf16c 1 month ago
@b52gf16c i never said we were invincible you are just pulling that out of thin air. plus i grew up in a multi racial family in a home with 7 bedrooms,5 bathrooms,a doctor and lawyer for parents and i went to private schools and college. how does your family compare?
madmike19682003 1 month ago
@madmike19682003 Bullshit you are one of those Americans who think D-Day changed the course of the war while in the 3 yrs prior to that the Russians had lost nearly 27 million of their citizens and soldiers grinding the Germans down until it was safe for us to land in France against 2nd and 3rd rate German formations. The truth is the US/UK let the Russians and Germans bleed to death until the Germans were attrited enough for us to defeat and hopefully the USSR would not be a postwar threat!!!
b52gf16c 1 month ago
@b52gf16c i never said anything about the u.s. in ww2. i was just saying you can't compare the IDF to our military as it's like apples and oranges. and the the trailer park comment was low considering your the most close minded and bigoted person i know. sailors are scumbags? marines are worse? all grunts are stupid? some generalisation and false. plus how would you even know?
madmike19682003 1 month ago
@madmike19682003 I should not have said that about the Marines and Navy, but I get defensive about Israel. Because if you have never been there you cant appreciate what the security situation is.You literally can not drive down the highway for ten minutes without seeing the Airforce scramble their jets to some perceived threat. Plus you walk into a mall in Tel Aviv if there are 2000 people there, 1000 of them will be Armed soldiers shopping also. We were born in the right geography in the US!!
b52gf16c 1 month ago
@b52gf16c fair enough but you can't really compare 2 countries like that. it's apples and oranges. hell i think switzerland has the best army in the world...for defending switzerland. IDF troops defend 1 small area against basically 1 enemy in the marines we literally had to be able to fight in any clime and place. i did mountain,desert,urban and jungle training. well you get the point. i never served with IDF troops but i did deal with arabs....not exactly the toughest foreign troops i saw.
madmike19682003 1 month ago
@madmike19682003 We lived in shitty apartments and were lower middle class when I was growing up in Florida. My question to you is, you went to private schools and college and you found yourself in the enlisted ranks ( thats pretty sad, next time dont volunteer that much information!!) What do you do for a living now????
b52gf16c 1 month ago
@b52gf16c i went into the service before college as i didn't want to be a burden on my parents and because i thought it would be a adventure i also do think if you receive the benefits of living in this country you should have to do something for it. so maybe i was idealistic. i work for a commercial airline mostly for the adventure. hey i get bored easily.
madmike19682003 1 month ago
@madmike19682003 I have a problem with you're assertions, because you have never been to Israel. Its a tiny nation surrounded by nothing but pain and threats and you have the audacity (considering the American combat record since 45) to suggest that they are only up against chopped liver. Thats pretty arrogant considering that the US has only one clear victory since 1945 and under you're instructions it was against 4th rate opposition!!
b52gf16c 1 month ago
@madmike19682003 I want to be congenial to you for a bit, where are you from, what do you do for a living. I have been with a major hub and spoke airline since 92 when I left the Airforce.
b52gf16c 1 month ago
@b52gf16c i was raised in tennessee by 2 great parents with 9 other kids. many of us were adopted and came from all races. we were raised devout catholics so that explains the school. i went to college for a year than joined the marines because i think everyone has a duty to help defend this country especially if you came from a rich or middle class background. and i wanted the travel and adventure to be honest. so yeah i was a romantic idealist you could say. did 4 years got out and went back.
madmike19682003 1 month ago
@madmike19682003 i think the wifi is acting up so i'm gonna have to go slow. got out of the service after serving with a very diverse group of people which was a shock for me having to deal with stupid as well as smart people. something going to school with the sons and daughters of scientists and engineers didn't prepare me for at all. i served with all kinds on ship and shore. went back to school and basically became a jack of all trades but master of none. i feel like i did it all.lol
madmike19682003 1 month ago
@madmike19682003 Tennessee and a comercial airline hunnnnn. let me guess who you work for Maybe Delta since they took over Northwest. I was just in TRI Cities TENN fixing a plane 2 weeks ago, and I got back from Spain/Portugal 2 days ago on vacation. All kidding aside dont type who you work for its not a good ideal!!
b52gf16c 1 month ago
@madmike19682003 You know the other thing about Entebbe in the IDFS favor, they did not have a trained terrorist unit at the time (like Delta Force) the men were picked from various brigades in a hurry, so their operation is even that much more impressive considering our complete disaster (with more resources no less) in Iran yrs later!!
b52gf16c 1 month ago
@madmike19682003 One other thing, using you're logic the US should get very little credit for its victory over Iraq in 91 (essentially our only victory since 1945). yea lets play by you're rules
b52gf16c 1 month ago
@bloodyblade24 I will be in Glasglow on the 12th of Oct, maybe we could discuss English military prowess there!
b52gf16c 5 months ago
@penroff4
Which book in particular covers the Operation best from the British perspective?
lobbotekka2019 4 months ago
The scene where they are jumping is one of the most totally awesome scenes in movie history.
HxMxOx 6 months ago
@RichardElden
Hmm ... yes. Quite so. In certain regards, quite so.
Briselance 6 months ago
great movie!
japittrich 6 months ago
@RichardElden
It might have sounded like a great plan, but it still ended being a gigantic cluster-fuck.
Briselance 6 months ago
"What's your opinion about this ?"
"Well, as you know, I've always said we tried to go a bridge too far"
Briselance 6 months ago
this man pointed a gun at me and I want you to place him under arrest for at least 10 seconds.... just count to ten real quick..... 1-2-3 like that.... yes... 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10........ thank you.....
WoldulphiusXXIV 6 months ago 2
i started whistling this in an elevator the other day when i noticed everyone looking at me so i told them what movie it was from then a couple days later i saw them in the same elevator and most of us were whistling it lol
ghghghgghgh100 7 months ago 20
@RichardElden so he should lay it on with a shovel .
Arnhem was an over optimistic fuck-up put together by the upper class twats who continue to run the British Army
Look at the plan - land 4 to 7 miles away and then bloody WALK to the objective , and not able to get the force in there in one go
zarquon53 7 months ago
yes, yes, everything is awful, this film, movies in general, the whole humanity is dreadful... I think we should shut down the whole planet and give it back to the Creator... LOL :-)))))
slimatnight 7 months ago
@RichardElden you mad bro? how is it awful its a fantastic film.
kittymime 7 months ago
My fathers regiment played a big par in this battle but hardly receive any acknowledgement for the part they played. They were the glider borne troops of the 2nd Battalion South Staffordshire Regiment.
lkaasikmae 7 months ago
Real Bridge at Arnhem was removed and rebuilt as a medium scale bridge. Because during the war the bridge took quite a beating and caught fire from the German ammo dump.
SR71ABCD 8 months ago
This is mah favorite movie. "Niene! Feild marshall model!"
hungryman2500 8 months ago
"Look at him, please sir, right now...or Ill blow your fucking head off..."
Grepple1234 8 months ago
@Grepple1234 count to ten.... like 123... yes.
kittymime 7 months ago
What's your problem?!!What have you got against "Dickie"?
gava4 8 months ago
Hey.... Saving Private Ryan was good....
souljadicktellem 8 months ago
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This is wonderful film music. It bears no relation to the suffering of each individual soldier. Bless every one of them, but no film or any film music will ever do any of them any justice. The composer here attempts to grasp what all of them wanted to achieve - defeat of evil, in glorious failure, and glory despite of defeat is achieved. I salute them all.
padoomtish 9 months ago
This is wonderful film music. It bears no relation to the suffering of each individual soldier. Bless each and every one of them, but no film or any film music will ever do any of them any justice. The composer here attempts to grasp what all of them wanted to achieve - defeat of evil, in glorious failure, and glory despite of defeat is achieved. I salute them all.
padoomtish 9 months ago 2
"I fear we may have gone a bridge to far"
Cage2053K 9 months ago
excellent theme!
rovellaire 9 months ago
You know what's odd is without the Nazis I don't think cinema would be all that great if it came to war films. I have always been fascinated by the Third Reich. Truly a real Regime formed by the people that personify mankind. Long Live the Fatherland!
DetroitLove4U 9 months ago
@DetroitLove4U Nice try at trolling.
ebedgert 9 months ago
@ebedgert Gee instead of providing worthy insights german to anything relevant to this video therein you simply extend yourself to such an extent as some critic of comments. Talk about all the "Chuck Norris" comments on many forums and you call mine this juvenile garbage "trolling" - well live long and prosper in Mommy's basement. Honestly you made no sense.
DetroitLove4U 9 months ago
I miss the old war films, with gripping plots and beautiful music behidn them. Now the best we get is a pathetic love affair in what was supposed to be the bloodiest fight of WW1.
Legonater 9 months ago
I miss the old war. Now it is just run, kill and hide :(
Perry12able 9 months ago 6
They don't make movies like this anymore.
ThunderGobble 10 months ago 27
2 people were left on the bridge at arnhem.. correct at the time of posting lol
TheScooterboy777 10 months ago 6
A good film...thanks largely to Spielberg not being involved and rewritting history as per bloody usual....the way he rerwrites you would think the Yanks did everything.........didnt see them in 1940 in a hurrican or Spitfire did we.....
horse660 10 months ago 22
@horse660 Actually they were. A lot of volunteers.
SaturnVII 9 months ago
@horse660 I'm not aware of Spielberg "rewritting (sic) history as ...usual." Could you illuminate me as to what he wrote? Thanks.
carmium 5 months ago
@horse660 what about the Eagle Squadron?
miel1945 5 months ago
@horse660
Your mouth is talking, might want to see to that. Do some reading on the Eagle Squadrons before you start talking smack.
Ottoman1337 4 months ago
@horse660 You might be the dumbest person on the internet.
21leftcenter 4 months ago
A classic theme. Shows how incredibly wasteful and ridiculous war can be
when commanders don't know what the h*** their doing.
Thanks Gen. Montgomery.
skye1212 10 months ago
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THQMAS 10 months ago
2 People found this to be a song to far
THQMAS 10 months ago
love this movie! A lot of great names in this movie, even some minor characters played by big names like peter boyle and john ratzenberger!
Deathsquad49 10 months ago
how can someone not like this the film is fairly accurate but the brits got massacared they fell into the bear pit and got torn to shreads it is a place i want to visit to pay respects to our brave dead.
timothy19681 11 months ago
@timothy19681 I've been to the areas that Operation Market Garden took place in (Grave, Eindhoven, Arnhem etc) its a great experience, plenty of museums to visit, but the most memorable part of my trip was speaking to a Dutch man in one of the cemeteries who was a boy living in Oosterbeek when the allies landed there, it was very interesting, I'll never forget that.
I highly recommend going.
SPARTANMST 9 months ago
probably one of the best war movies I've seen, ever
Potatonaught 11 months ago
this was a fantastic movie and steve maqueen was supposed to be in it, but he had a huge ego and demanded that he was the main star. He was cut and james caan took the part he was to get. man, the nerve of some actors!!
Gekmdal 11 months ago
One of my patients brothers was killed near Arnhem and is buried in the airbourne cemetry.She was only 4 at the time but still remembers him vividly.These men were dropped into a hornets nest by our illustrious leaders and it is to their credit that they fought heroically in the face of impossible odds.I have met two of the survivors and they both told me that the operation was doomed from the start due to a traitor within the dutch resistance.However they have nothing but praise for the Dutch.
philipg52 11 months ago 3