Si algún alma caritativa pondría subtitulos en español a estos videos se lo agradecería, mi nivel de inglés no da para tanto y no me entero de nada. Gracias.
Si alguno desea que yo cree subtitulos espanoles para este video, envie me un mensage para pedirlo y cuando estan listos voy a enviarles a usted para corregirlos antes de subirlos, porque no tengo mucha confiensa en mis notiones gramaticales. Vale?
I love the methaphore about his own sexuality trapped on a cage like Bertha. That sexy element on this version makes the story even more fascinating. And of course, Toby plays the most amazing Rochester. HE is the ultimate Rochester
I am not exactly sure that his sexuality is trapped :). It seems quite elusive some times like that cigar smoke of his that Jane can feel surrounding her invisibly. And then his sexuality had quite a space to exercise itself with so many mistresses...Lol!
Perdón, mi inglés es patético!!!! Creo más bien que no es que su sexualidad esté atrapada porque no la ejerza, sino porque no puede ejercerla por Amor, sólo por puro sexo, y como su Naturaleza no es depravada, sino que lo llevaron allí sus circunstancias, por eso se siente atrapado...Con Jane, en cambio, puede ser apasionado y sexual y estar conectado al mismo tiempo y Amar...El mejor Rochester de la Historia!!!!
it was something good taht she where weaker in this version than in the book, so we can see the love that they have, oh im obsses with this i love the up lip of the catrees its so funny i dont know is weard hahaha but that make's here better for the job
I think that one of the reasons Jane Eyre survived as a heroine is her being an incredible strong character. Had she been just another woman-victim of his, then she would not be noteworthy. It is the strength of her love for him as opposed to her strong moral sense that make her different.
thank you!I don´t understand all they said but...all the way,I love it!!!I review this days Persuasion my Austen´s second favourite book and.. I´m always move!
I believe your first Jane Austen favorite is "Pride and Prejudice" right? It is my favorite Austen one and then "Northanger Abbey" and "Persuation". But above all I am a devoted Charlotte Bronte fan.
To continue, I understand what they wanted to emphasize with these comments, namely that they where going for a sexed up version of the book, which I wouldn't mind as the book is itself really passionate but they overdid it with the separation scene, which was the opposite of the book where desire is projected through denial of the loving object and not through sexy scenes. The moral dilemma is undermined, he appears as a liar (brother and sister!) and she much weaker than the book.
Well he WAS a liar! First time I saw this adaption I thought this is not Jane Eyre. But the more I came to think about it the less certain I became that Charlotte Bronté would have objected this adaption. I think she went as far as she could in the time and was deliberately going very close to what could be accepted.
And, leaving out the origin, I much prefere a Rochester desperately saying anything to make her stay, before the one who threatened to rape her when she turned him down,
That scene is awful and Charlotte Brontë makes it very clear that it is not respect or empathy or even self worth that stops him. Only the understanding that it wont work and maybe she will chose to stay in the end if he plays his cards well.
He lied about Bertha but he was not a habitual liar. What would be the use to tell Jane they would live as brother and sister? It is ridiculous even to suggest it, let alone think that Jane is fool enough to believe it.I wouldn't entirely object to this scene if it was presented as the passionate dreams that Jane has about Mr Rochester but I am annoyed that they sacrificed the dailogue of seperation (the center of the book) for this (just an erotic scene).Where are their arguments?
Well, everybody have their favourite scen and if the separation scene is yours, then I understand that you miss it. Others of us have other favourite scenes and as for me, the whole portrait is much more important than any special scene.
But the separation is always softened in movie adaptions, not only in this. The origin would be impossible on the screen. It is to violent, to threatening and the audience would just wonder why she goes back to him after that.
I know it's weird but I have to comment on my video. I am irritated slightly on two instances: 1) where Susanna White says "Our Jane is a very sexual being" which every time want to answer "Yeah, as if the character of the book wasn't?" and 2) where Toby Stephens adds "I like the way Sandy has made them two very sexual people" and I always react like: "It was Charlotte Bronte that made them that way, one and a half century back, not Sandy".
@neftis Sii, traducelas por favoor
TheBeautyPiano 1 month ago
It's strange to see Ruth in period costume with a parka over it.
palebluedot 1 year ago
Toby: "I really like the way that Sandy's made them these two very sexual people." You two, huh? LOL! And all said with a little grin. Love Toby. :)
magyartigris 1 year ago 4
Hola! Espero no llegar tarde. Si queréis yo me ofrezco a traducirlo al español :)
@ksotikoula mándame un mensaje y hablamos :)
lyllith69 2 years ago
Si algún alma caritativa pondría subtitulos en español a estos videos se lo agradecería, mi nivel de inglés no da para tanto y no me entero de nada. Gracias.
alada29 2 years ago
Empece a hacer subtitulos pero como no soy espanol necesito alguien para corregirlos y ningun se offrece...
ksotikoula 2 years ago
@ksotikoula Yo los puedo traducir!! Si aun te interesa
neftis121 10 months ago
thank you for posting this!
mai567 2 years ago
Perfecto! Gracias!
eskapulita 2 years ago
Si alguno desea que yo cree subtitulos espanoles para este video, envie me un mensage para pedirlo y cuando estan listos voy a enviarles a usted para corregirlos antes de subirlos, porque no tengo mucha confiensa en mis notiones gramaticales. Vale?
ksotikoula 2 years ago
Hola, me ofrezco como voluntaria para corregirlos...Y Muchísimas Gracias, por haberte tomado el trabajo de bajar este video!!!!!!
eskapulita 2 years ago
Hola escapulita!
Voy a intentar traducilos y enviarlos por mensaje personal. :)
ksotikoula 2 years ago
Ruth Wilson has such a light and bubbly personality. I love her laugh on 1:04
BlondeVegan 2 years ago 2
Fantastic interviews!
weeknightingale 2 years ago
I love the methaphore about his own sexuality trapped on a cage like Bertha. That sexy element on this version makes the story even more fascinating. And of course, Toby plays the most amazing Rochester. HE is the ultimate Rochester
ferwynn04 2 years ago 3
I am not exactly sure that his sexuality is trapped :). It seems quite elusive some times like that cigar smoke of his that Jane can feel surrounding her invisibly. And then his sexuality had quite a space to exercise itself with so many mistresses...Lol!
ksotikoula 2 years ago
U right.. Besides...Dont you love when she said that she must leave Thornfield and he kissed her?? That is pure magic!!! Lol
ferwynn04 2 years ago 6
Perdón, mi inglés es patético!!!! Creo más bien que no es que su sexualidad esté atrapada porque no la ejerza, sino porque no puede ejercerla por Amor, sólo por puro sexo, y como su Naturaleza no es depravada, sino que lo llevaron allí sus circunstancias, por eso se siente atrapado...Con Jane, en cambio, puede ser apasionado y sexual y estar conectado al mismo tiempo y Amar...El mejor Rochester de la Historia!!!!
eskapulita 2 years ago
Tu opinion es muy interesante :)
Eso es que me gusta mas en esa novela: que es al mismo tiempo romantica y sexual. Quien puede resistir a eso?
ksotikoula 2 years ago
it was something good taht she where weaker in this version than in the book, so we can see the love that they have, oh im obsses with this i love the up lip of the catrees its so funny i dont know is weard hahaha but that make's here better for the job
anagg17 2 years ago
I think that one of the reasons Jane Eyre survived as a heroine is her being an incredible strong character. Had she been just another woman-victim of his, then she would not be noteworthy. It is the strength of her love for him as opposed to her strong moral sense that make her different.
ksotikoula 2 years ago
Thank you for this. It's very nice to see the director's view of her treatment of the story. I adore this updated version.
moviegal66 3 years ago 4
Thank you so much! it was awesome to see their view on the story~
americangrl55 3 years ago 2
thank you!I don´t understand all they said but...all the way,I love it!!!I review this days Persuasion my Austen´s second favourite book and.. I´m always move!
bye!
mikirakayano 3 years ago
I can translate what you don't understand or I can write you the sentences you have doubts in English.
ksotikoula 3 years ago
I believe your first Jane Austen favorite is "Pride and Prejudice" right? It is my favorite Austen one and then "Northanger Abbey" and "Persuation". But above all I am a devoted Charlotte Bronte fan.
ksotikoula 3 years ago
To continue, I understand what they wanted to emphasize with these comments, namely that they where going for a sexed up version of the book, which I wouldn't mind as the book is itself really passionate but they overdid it with the separation scene, which was the opposite of the book where desire is projected through denial of the loving object and not through sexy scenes. The moral dilemma is undermined, he appears as a liar (brother and sister!) and she much weaker than the book.
ksotikoula 3 years ago
@ksotikoula
Well he WAS a liar! First time I saw this adaption I thought this is not Jane Eyre. But the more I came to think about it the less certain I became that Charlotte Bronté would have objected this adaption. I think she went as far as she could in the time and was deliberately going very close to what could be accepted.
MsSilentia 1 year ago 2
@MsSilentia
And, leaving out the origin, I much prefere a Rochester desperately saying anything to make her stay, before the one who threatened to rape her when she turned him down,
That scene is awful and Charlotte Brontë makes it very clear that it is not respect or empathy or even self worth that stops him. Only the understanding that it wont work and maybe she will chose to stay in the end if he plays his cards well.
MsSilentia 1 year ago
@MsSilentia
He lied about Bertha but he was not a habitual liar. What would be the use to tell Jane they would live as brother and sister? It is ridiculous even to suggest it, let alone think that Jane is fool enough to believe it.I wouldn't entirely object to this scene if it was presented as the passionate dreams that Jane has about Mr Rochester but I am annoyed that they sacrificed the dailogue of seperation (the center of the book) for this (just an erotic scene).Where are their arguments?
ksotikoula 1 year ago
Well, everybody have their favourite scen and if the separation scene is yours, then I understand that you miss it. Others of us have other favourite scenes and as for me, the whole portrait is much more important than any special scene.
But the separation is always softened in movie adaptions, not only in this. The origin would be impossible on the screen. It is to violent, to threatening and the audience would just wonder why she goes back to him after that.
MsSilentia 1 year ago
I know it's weird but I have to comment on my video. I am irritated slightly on two instances: 1) where Susanna White says "Our Jane is a very sexual being" which every time want to answer "Yeah, as if the character of the book wasn't?" and 2) where Toby Stephens adds "I like the way Sandy has made them two very sexual people" and I always react like: "It was Charlotte Bronte that made them that way, one and a half century back, not Sandy".
ksotikoula 3 years ago
thnk u!!! its awesome to hear the actor/actresses views on thier character
sdragonrider 3 years ago