Psychiatry Drug Makers Sued, Kids & Psychotropic Meds Lawsuit

[pellhell]

Great idea, I'd love to see that work to shut these practices down.

[JubblyJack]

This would be great to make doctors and pharmacists more responsible in the pharmaceuticals prescribed. My son was misdiagnosed as ADHD and had to take risperdal and ritalin. He had horrific ticks which made him look weird ..... his real diagnosis was PTSD through trauma. He never needed the added negativity of psychotropics.

[pellhell]

I hope you took him off those drugs.

[JubblyJack]

I sure did and the tics went away. His behaviour was the same. He never needed psychotropics. He has grown into a great young man and we found out he was exceptionally intelligent.

[edthewicked]

In my own, personal experiences w/ pharmacuetical drugs and lifestyle changes, I must admit I"ve done the balancing act recently. I still take at least one prescribed medication for ADD, plus St. John's Wort supplement, daily exercise, occasional meditation, reasonably balanced (but not cheap) diet and bi-weekly therapy sesssions. And I really notice a huge difference in how I feel, physical health, mental outlook, etc.

[bubbamickmac]

before watching this video,

watch out, i think this youtube channel may be a scientology front, as Dr. Breeding has some connection toward the "Church" of Scientology.

thanks and cheers;)

bubbamickmac

[quitejaded]

Where did you find out? That would explain why this guy is always bitching about drugs and not giving alternative solutions that work.

[Gedankenverbrecher84]

Not everybody who is agains psychiatry and pro human rights is a scientologist.

[pellhell]

Nonsense. Not everyone who speaks against psychiatry and their irrational and dangerous practices is a scientologist.

[NeuroParadise]

in particular antidepressants are the worst drug thats percieved as a medicine. Depression cant be diagnosed because its no more a disease than starvation is. The NLP programming used in education and training, the messages in media and the materialistic work work work mentality makes people like zombies. These drugs stop you feeling anything or make you suicidal, they are evil and dangerous and have side effects which are often medicated then youre on more drugs.

[NeuroParadise]

hmm when you take into account the breakdown of society here there will be a big gap between those who are unaware and those who see. I agree about drink, in my local shop there are 2 drinks without aspartame. I tried to stop giving it to my kids but they hated me for it so i had to give in. I feel this has to come from the top really,Mcdonalds are still advertising without a health warning and the working day is too long in winter, we need to relax more etc.

[pellhell]

It's better to give them sugared drinks than aspartame or splenda.

[NeuroParadise]

theres not a court in the land they dont own , and we expect justice. Once we realise they rip us off and we dont need them or their drugs we have won. I wholly belive in your view marbles but how do you convince people to stand up to it? they dont care they just sit watching tv pretending its not happening.

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

I don't know the answer , all I know is that if each and every person who believes in herbal medicine uses it and spreads the word , really spreads the word ...at the school gate talking to other parents , online, at social gatherings , anywhere ...the tide IS turning , even the BBC in England are starting to advocate a healthy diet even showing progs on ho to make your own herbal tinctures etc ...the BBC has a lot of viewers in the brit isles !

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

...cont ..

the tide is definitely turning, if only just every single person who has an interest got involved then the tide would become a deluge and changes for the better would inevitably occur .

start a group in your area maybe ?!, encourage your friends to do the same if so inclined, do what you can for what you know is right , ....thats my suggestion.

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

Just want to say John ,... your a star imho. one of the most informative folks on 'tube

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

please for goodness sake one day let the masses awake to the reality of what' simple' plants and herbs can do for our human species.... I believe there is ( or was) a plant for each and every ailment for each creature and in some way  we heal plants ....

wtf are we doing with all these chemicals ???

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

maybe I could sue too ,I was forced to take an anti psychotic many years ago after I was spiked with LSD and became , well...you know .... thing is the LSd had an after effect of making me depressed etc so they stuck me on this anti psychotic which made me very il indeed for a few years ...I managed to get off it with help from family, thing is I found out they thought I was a schizophrenic ...(which I am not) ...can / should I sue ?

[studentoflife01]

I was forced to take zyprexa can I sue. I'm 18 now 09-01-91!

[Sparklette]

Thank you good sir! :)

[Honestinwilkesbarre]

What about "legitimate" drugs whose only use is to control children, not for their own good but for the convenience of the so called "care giver"?

About 60% of the children in my children's school are on some sort of meds for ADD, ADHD and/or autism.

Perhaps today's society is the true disorder.

[CuttressMedia]

ADD, ADHD can be controlled by diet and exercise.

As for autism, I cannot speak. I lack knowledge here.

[troglodyte3344]

@CuttressMedia can you recommend a good dietary website for ADHD for me? thanks

[quitejaded]

Me too I need some help with that. I don't understand what is causing my ADD>

[quitejaded]

Suggest an ADD diet. I am a dancer and I also eat relatively healthy. So I don't understand what else to do.

[grasshutz]

not a doctor, just a guy on youtube but. i would recommend more omega fatty acids, for the brain. get the 3's 6's and 9's. flax seed oil. salmon oil. fatty acids good for the brain, helps for smooth nerotransmition. make sure your getting the right amount of glucose. glucose is what the brain runs off of. anyways look into those...

[quitejaded]

Extra virgin olive oil has omegas and everything I cook or fry is using EVOO. I used to take fish oil pills and it didn't do shit. I still eat fish frequently simply because I enjoy fish, but I don't think omegas are doing anything. Or its one of those things that I have to take A LOT in order for it to do anything.

I don't know much about glucose, though. I bought some flaxseed to put in smoothies recently. Dunno if that will do anything.

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

Organic coconut oil , almond oil, basil and oregano oil and some avacado oil for good measure , top off with a good diet .

happy days that is what I am currently taking to help me regain weight n stop me dieing basically after dropping to less than 10 stone from 14.5 after a RTA and developing crohns like symptoms following a RTA.

dont over do anthing man, small amounts can do wonders but only over time... taking too much will jsut create imbalance IMHO

[NeuroParadise]

depression cant even be diagnosed, and yet nearly every case is because the person feels insignificant because they are loosing the materialistic game. To be rich and intelligent is the goal but even that isnt spiritually satisfying. In japan there are millions of working poor on similar drugs. So many have seen the only logical escape as suicide. Kids are commiting suicide, and being put on drugs younger and younger, its so shocking people cant belive it.

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

hmm, not always is this the case with depression but certainly does seem a dominant factor ... I feel that the main cause of depression is simply lack of adequate nutrition and hydration.

shocking to see how little people actually drink ...just watch one or two folks you know

imho if folks are not getting the right vitamins and minerals or only getting them from pill bottles etc then they are going to get run down fast and if on top of that they don't get enough water .......

[NeuroParadise]

I dont want to sound pedantic but depression cant even be diagnosed- Its appalling that a condition which cant be diagnosed is prescribed especially when it relates to brain activity. Also hormone medications are seriously bad for us - contraceptive pill and hrt. I would like to know the statistics regarding people on a/depressants who commit suicide

[quitejaded]

No... I think a lot of people who are depressed are depressed about their situations and need to do some modification on their outlook (I forgot what that kind of psychology is called), but some people are actually depressed and I do think a lot of times diet and excercise can alleviate that.

[NeuroParadise]

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[quitejaded]

What is in those oils that is not in extra virgin olive oil? And so I guess the fact that the omega 3,6,9s didn't help in regular doses means that that's not the answer either. And I have no clue what else you're talking about.

I'm just trying to understand why people think simply a change in diet can solve all problems. I really think sometimes it can't and yall need to stop hating on medicines all the time.

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

You would be surprised what a human body can achieve given the right fuel and exercise !

But basically I realized that diet has a massive effect on how we feel, act and generally do what we do, the old saying of ' you are what you eat" is sooo true .

I trust plants and foods because they have been here millenia ( natural ones anyway) moden medicines have been here what ? 50 years ??

I know what I trust .

research

[quitejaded]

I'm not finding that much convincing information. I'm only finding the generic "helps with X, Y, Z" that you read about ANYTHING. I'm calling BS on you. :/ I'm really tired of people like you feeding others bullocks.

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

maybe you don't look far enough , look I used to eat shit and additives an all the rest of it, then I realized thanks goodness and have spent years ! researching .

TBH if your calling BS on me ...you have to pretty much call BS on herbalism .. you come back to me after almost a day !!

an tell me I'm BS to you ...

get real ..

[quitejaded]

Oh, good for you. I DON'T eat shit and additives. Glad eating shit then eating healthy worked for you. Doesn't work for everyone. Yes, when something DOESN'T WORK and no one can show that it works, I call BS on it.

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

I'll try an explain another way.

I was brought up without much knowledge of good foods etc .

NO, eating shite food did NOT work for me .. it nearly killed me as it happens .

Which is partly why I studied for several years to attain the knowledge I currently posses

Unlike yourself who seems convinced this is BS after searching for an hour or so.

glad that works for you, although I call BS on your shoddy googling which your trying to pass off as research grow up !

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

oh, ... I almost forgot if you are expecting me or anyone else to explain this to you in yt comments, then your sillier than I first thought.

I suggest you stop reviewing TV shows an the like and do some research that will possibly help you as you mature.

best regards.

[quitejaded]

Yeah, I've done my research. Which is how I can tell you're BS.

[quitejaded]

No, I have been doing research on this stuff for a while and tried different stuff based on my research. After googling your oils, I find the same kind of information I read about the other things I've tried. I would like for someone to make a point about food and natural healing and actually have some support behind their argument. And some more detail. Maybe have an actual doctor who has studied biology extensively. Because I've tried a lot of things and I've started to begin spotting BS

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

oh ok then ... you have done a lil research on google an your all clued up eh ? good for you !

[studentoflife01]

It's Buddhism in a nutshell.

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

what is ?

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

I got bowel disorders after a road accident but the solicitors are saying it isnt connected ...no prior history in family or in myself .....someone help I'm really stuck

[DRDNIBOY]

Your stress has increased and so your body cannot digest properly when your stressed. So you have bowel disorders.

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

fair point, I am stressed, very true.... Iasked the doc for something to combat this, they rufused!! .. what to do now , you knoiw they actually gave me an anti depresant and said that it wil help with stress and help me relax, its making me feel manic...am not depressed as such just streed and unable yto relax properly because of muscle spasm, tightness etc ..

my doc isnt much help tbh ... changing is difficult in my area ...

[NeuroParadise]

I used to care for sectioned patients with all sorts of conditions from anti psychotics and concoctions. When my 2 kids were taken by their dad the doctor had no time to talk or help or support me (wouldnt even look me in the eye) but just gave me prozac which I put in the bin. 'depression' is a normal part of life, and will affect all normal human beings who are forced to live such a soulless materialistic lifestyle as the western world provides.

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

but there is something that can be done .. I am living proof .

[edewit08]

St. John's wort is today most widely known as an herbal treatment for depression. A report in the Cochrane Review states,

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

agreed , St. Johns Wart is excellent for depression, worked for several I know... also, Valerian is good for sleep ... no sleep can make folks depressed so...

herbs are the way forward in curing dis-ease IMHO ... just the big companys can't patent plants so they make up crazy potions which they can, patent ...

the barstewards !

[TheCastellan]

Just watch, we'll soon see ritalins shaped like the Flinstones next. x_x

[lvecsey]

Medical Free is a nice term and another one that caught my attention recently is humanness. I think like the religion/myth dichotomy, the definition or essence of being human is also being redefined. Out with the old and in with the new.

It's relevant in the sense that understanding how the mind works and what we consider to be consciousness and perception underpins many of the psych fields.

[mbleek2001]

the underlining problem is capitalism out of control in this country. Some I say SOME evil companies are willing to kill millions in this country to a make a profit. We have to re-exam capitalism and regulate it. I am not surprised at all. How far are we willing to go to make a dollar should be the question?

[TheCastellan]

Yes. Here in Michigan, our then governor, Engler, made suing the drug companies illegal back in 1996. I remember seeing a news story on a daughter who's father died from these sorta drugs and, crying, screamed into the camera, "WHY, ENGLER, WHY?!" The FDA is the police force used by the drug companies. The drug companies sold their souls and are sitting on a huge pile of blood money.

[maggoli67]

Man, I just watched an old South Park episode last night on Ritalin and kid prescriptions. Weird coincidence (wait, I'm a Calvinist...don't believe in coincidence.)

God bless the victims, and let justice prevail. Protect the kids!

[NeuroParadise]

does anyone know if theres any advice for uk residents?

[bonzaibb12]

Eli Lily only compensated me $2,300 for causing me to develop type 2 diabetes and gain 100lbs in only a 6 month period while taking Zyprexa. My Dr's at the time said my medications could not cause that an accused me of having an eating disorder. After quitting Zyprexa my weight came off in 1 year and I learned my instincts were correct from a new DR I started seeing. I have been Medication Free 2 years now with great success using supplements and avoiding stress.

[vsaldanas]

I pray to God that, these Psychiatry Drug Makers go to Prison, for months and years!

[Nishie900]

..Uhm.. why would the makers go to prison? That's like putting sword makers and/or gun makers in prison for creating guns. But like they say "guns don't kill people, people kill people." Ethically speaking, it should be the FDA held responsible for having even approved it and the doctors prescribing harmful drugs to young children who aren't even fully developed.

[logsliderrjh]

Yes they should go to prison because the drugs are harmful. Using your example of the gun makers if the gun makers made defective guns that harmed the gun owners and hid the fact then they would go to prison.

[Caerbanorg]

These drugs where not approved by the FDA for use in children. That is the whole point. The drug companies told the doctors it was approved and many doctors then prescribed them and charged Medicaid. That is fraud.

For the Gun analogy to be equal the gun manufacturers would be passing out loaded guns on the playground and trying to jail parents that objected and charging the cost to the police.

[shakaama]

the fda has not approved it. so that point is moot. the doctor has little to no knowledge of the effects of the drugs. sorry to burst anyone's bubble on that. they rely on the salesmen that come to their door, that tell them what the drug is allegedly supposed to do. the drug manus are the one with the army of pharmacists and researchers. and the doctor is relying on that, to fill his scripts.

the drug manus have a direct responsibility in this, if anyone does.

[wendy3711]

AGREED! great idea

[quitejaded]

The drug has helped me focus in school so I can graduate, so I really hope god doesn't answer your prayers.

[CuttressMedia]

What if you weren't the problem? Many people are being misdiagnosed.

Think about this, if a teacher only obtained 60% on their teachers exam, all the students they teach, can only reach 60%.

If a Doctor only obtained 60% on their Doctors exam, than all the patients they have, have a 40% greater chance of getting sick or being misdiagnosed.

[quitejaded]

What do you mean what if I'm not the problem? Cuttress, the only reason I even went to get diagnosed was because the ADD was fucking up my life and I needed to figure out wtf is wrong with me...

[quitejaded]

Like.. its not like you go to the doctor and he's like 'OHP! you've got add!" ... you have a problem that is so bad you're willing to dish out the hundreds it costs to get tested. So you're question of me not being the problem makes no sense. OBVIOUSLY there is a PROBLEM.

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

mire than likely additives eaten by you, yuor parent etc have affected you ?.. certainly possible , I mean who knopws what kind of effect adding chemicls to everyday food will have ... oh yes I remember they started doing this in the late 60's0-70's (adding preservatives colours etc) ... hmm now currently we see a massive spike in the worlds dis- ease .

2 + 2 = ??

[quitejaded]

Uhm... I just told you I don't eat food with additives. We have our own garden. I'm telling you, I did my research and I smell BS. People like you want to blame the world for problems without accepting that maybe yes... maybe mental problems are real.

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

hmm ok, my bad. but I bet you don't eat all organic all the time and have the occasional 'treat "?? so to speak.

look v good you have a garden , you dont know how much that makes me happy.I

just hope your using it's to full potential, seriously.

YES mental probs are real, I never said the were not !

However, the majority of mental issues can be solved, cured/... call it what you will/ ..by that " simple" change in diet IMHO.

you are what you eat

[quitejaded]

Sometimes its not worth the money to buy organic since studies have shown that organic doesn't have any more nutritional value than conventional foods. On top of that, sometimes organic foods have more hazardous wastes on them since they are more susceptible to spoiling. If its not that much extra, I will buy organic, but in the end, if you wash your food well and grow your own food, I don't see the difference.

[joemann797]

Maybe you should see the video Food, Inc. I dont see anything so 'conventional' about conventional foods. It's not about getting extra nutrition by eating organic. It's about avoiding all the extra harmful crap the food industry puts into your food.

Watch the documentary, then come back and reply on my comment after you've seen it.

[quitejaded]

Dude, I have been emailing my library to get Food, Inc so I can borrow it. They keep giving me excuses as to why they don't have it yet. They told me it hasn't been released on DVD, but I think it has by now. how did you watch it? Did you download it?

Also, like I said organic food has shit in it too because it is organic and spoils faster and is more susceptible to shit.

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

trouble is with buying food which has been chemical produced using pesticides, growth enhancers and the like cannot just be " washed off" and made 'clean' these substances become part of the make up of the food.

-did you know food is being irradiated to make it last longer on the shelf.. I bet they will say studies have been done an its ok to eat , me I trust the earth

If your food is spoiling , then your buying too much !

just buy what you need daily ?! OR if you grow an pick when needed

[joemann797]

I watched it off xbox live, since they had it available. I do believe netflix has it on their website, so, it should be out on DVD.

Sure, organic *may not* be perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than 'conventional'. I'd prefer eating something that is pure, compared to something that has been loaded with hormones, and chemicals, such as MSG, High-Fructose Corn Syrup, Aspartame, Maltodextrose, and the list goes on.

Plus, organic doesn't use pestisides.

[joemann797]

Also, if you think organic is equivalent to non-organic foods, you're sadly mistaken. The food industry wants you to think they are the same. The food you find to be 'conventional' is as conventional as buying a cheeseburger at Mc Donald's.  Not that everything that is non-organic is bad, since not everything can be found as organic, but by buying more organic, we are telling the industry that we want change in the foods that we eat.

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

" studies " oh ok then , must be right .... the pharma industry tell us they study what they produce and it's 'safe'

yet we see all to often people not getting the help they actually need from meds and often serious side effects.

..sorry I digress.

[quitejaded]

Uhm... the study said there is no significant nutritional value in the fruits. That's all the study said. Whatever information that gives you is the information that gives you. If you're not retarded, you can read a study and draw a conclusion that is not based on false implications but based on the data represented...

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

oh dear , no talking with you is there .

I think `I////////'m going to have to throw in the towel on this conversation, it is going nowhere IMHO and tbh I thought I may have been able to help you, however continually ~I find your attitude makes my teeth itch .

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

what are your thoughts on the facts that we now currently have a major spike in health issues world wide ... not long after preservative and various additives have started to be added to our food stocks.

2+2 =??

[quitejaded]

Obviously people are eating more junk food more often... which is not good... what is your point?

[joemann797]

Also, I have to agree that yes, sometimes organic has less vitamins than non-organic foods, but let me tell you this..... if the vitamins the non-organic foods are giving you are synthetic, you'd be better off without them anyway. So, really, saying that organic is shit really shows that you really need to educate yourself a bit more about what you eat. I think watching Food, Inc, if you get ahold of it, will be a big eye opener regarding the food industry.

Well, I'm out.

[quitejaded]

I disagree that you're better off with NO vitamins than synthetic vitamins. That's like telling someone to stop taking vitamins because they are synthetic and just allow them to go on being malnutritioned. Something is better than nothing, I think. I haven't come across anything to tell me otherwise. The 'naturalists' " arguments are not convincing when it comes to these details.

And I never said conventional food is the equivalent of organic food. And some organic foods DO use pesticides

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

wrong, organic is not using ANY chemicals , if your organic does , then someone is telling you porky pies.

Honestly just stick to what your doing and keep on growing your own veg, herbs etc, eat LOTS of them in a wide mixture of colours and stick to it STRICTLY for 1 year.

Although it will require you to cut out/ditch  all junk foods also (ie: food with ANY made man substance in) tbh be better off not touching anything thats been though a factory, just to be sure

[quitejaded]

Organic food for sure is not perfect and I am really tired of people talking about it as if it is. Its not. There is shit in organic food. And pollutants in it and other crap that must be done to it, too. You have to research each type of food you get because you don't know in which case is the ORGANIC better than the conventional. Its not just as simple as people keep trying to make it. The best thing you can do is to just grow your own food.

[quitejaded]

Finally got my hands on Food, Inc. It didn't really TEACH me anything I didn't already know, but it gave me some more connections I didn't think about.

But some things they don't ... they don't clarify that somethings are YOUR responsibility. Such as cleaning your food (whether it is organic of conventional), cooking your food well, etc.

[quitejaded]

I don't know what your point is, but I jumped on you because I suspect you believe anything can be cured with "diet and exercise" which I believe to be false. Sometimes that is not enough.

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

nope, I don't believe just anything that I'm told, I check, double check then research facts.

I do think diet and exercise can cure many things , although all too often people don't stick rigidly to it and f course don't succeed,

It takes a lot of effort to avoid chemicals in food these days.

I believe that there is (or was) a plant to cure all ailments,

Sometimes it could well be a hereditary issue..

I dont have all the answers but by goodness Im doin me best to keep my family and I healthy

[djmisplacedmarblesTV]

I do believe that eating correctly for oneself is paramount to optimum health and can cure many ailments with the correct knowledge.

However, all too often people don't stick rigidly to it and of course don't succeed .

It takes a gargantuan effort to avoid additives in food today.

I believe there is a plant (or was) to cure dis-ease affecting every species living on this rock we are all made from!!

I don't have all the answers but by goodness I try my best to keep my family and I healthy

[Kyuugirl]

Up to six years back? Does this apply to Canadians?

[haze42082]

thanks dr.

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