Rationalists--who are overwhelmingly atheists--are the ones who built this lovely modern world. The others just live here. Maybe we should go on strike like Ayn Rand said (even though I hate that bitch...). It's starting to sound like a good idea.
Hearing Venomfangx even say the word "science" is like watching roadkill. That brain of his would be perfectly capable of rational thought if only he'd let it. It's just sad.
Sometimes I think it would be good to be religious, it's kinda like inviting people over to your house making up a game and then bending the rules to however you want. And then saying it's ok cause my dad said so, even though he has no idea what you are talking about and you never told him.
Anybody who says the Bible is the most scientifically accurate book in the world already loses ALL credibility to me. They aren't even worthy of a debate unless I see a modicum of hope that they might alter their viewpoint or unless I am bored.
a person who is not color blind bus a balloon and tells his color blind friend it is red. His friends disagrees and tells hims no it's blue. Who is right here? In this case they both are, they are just looking at the balloon from two different side points. The thing about truth is it's true, whether you believe it or not.
he keeps saying how Science is the real deal and how much human can benefit from it yet not realize the God we believe in, created science,in this world everyone is a"student" God or the flying spaghetti monster call it whatever you want does not need to study his whole existence to acquire knowledge because he MADE ALL SCIENCES.
@zacharykelway first of all God is eternal, he's the creator not the creature, therefore no need to keep asking who created God, you think i never asked myself? you get it? obviously the chicken was first! you were born before your mother? duh..
@zacharykelway i beleive in God but i don't really consider myself as a christian i don't go to church i basicly really understood the Bible's message anyway i actually try to listen to what you evolutionists think, and i aslo pretend to be a curious atheist to to other christians to see how they can defend their CONVICTION. there is so many evindences that dissaproves evolution, here's one : THE ORIGIN OF WORDS
@Modafuckaz Origin of words that disproves evolution? Really? Well, I guess this is better than the banana example. Hey, how about this one... White-Americans came from Europe. A few centuries later, voila! HOWDY PARTNER! Have you heard a native African tribe speak to each other? Clicks and grunts. I'm pretty damn sure that's how it sounded in the beginning.
@Modafuckaz Your comments about evolution prove you know nothing about paleontology or Evolution. You obviously are lying and did not watch the video I suggested. Otherwise you would have anwsered accordingly. SO your saying God is no linear? I'm confused? You think something can exist without a beginning? What is god made of? What did he make the universe out of? Serious Don't you need materials? I'm sorry you were probably taught not to question this stuff. YOU CAN LIVE A LIE UNTIL YOU DIE!
@zacharykelway i'v watched it long time ago.. i already told you i asked myself them questions but i got my answers, AND WHAT DOES THE WORD ETERNAL MEANS! GOD IS A SPIRIT! nobody thaught me nothing! i searched the truth, and yes you'r right i don't know much about paloeontology and evolution, but everything i heard and read was nonsense! i can understand you doubting about God but evolution is scientificly impossible! oh no its a proven fact right? nah its just lies covering other lies.
@Modafuckaz i beleive in God but i don't really consider myself as a christian i don't go to church i basicly really understood the Bible's message anyway i actually try to listen to what you evolutionists think, and i aslo pretend to be a curious atheist to to other christians to see how they can defend their CONVICTION. there is so many evindences that dissaproves evolution, here's one : THE ORIGIN OF WORDS
The origin of words? Etymology itself is evidence of evolution. In The Beginning (to put it biblically) there were just grunts; different grunts for different objects or concepts. These evolved as we evolved. Humans use their speech organs to communicate, just as we use our opposable thumbs to help us survive. Case in point? Children who grow up in the wild develop their own language; nouns, verbs, grammar. It's natural, not divine.
you appear to me as a blind person who has never seen an apple, but have seen a pear, but someone told you the pear is an apple, and you beleived it your whole life, so now the its a fact, that pear is an apple!
@zacharykelway and every child learn communication skill and eloquence from his parents or sibling, you probably think when that first man became human language popped out his brain? how was he able to mention word such as "the" "because" "it's" ? oh and why are animals called animals? the bible tells us that God let them choose a name for individuals but God names the scpecies! monkey=animal animal= animal
human=human where the word human comes from? why aren't called boxes? you get it?
@Modafuckaz In the bible it talks about unicorns...Unicorns are not real. In the bible it calls a bat a bird...A bat is a mamal. In the bible it says the earth is flat...The earth is round. You think because humankind has developed hundreds of languages over thousands of years that proves god. Or are you saying because there are nouns and conjunction words in each language god is real? Not sure what your point is. The Human genome is 97% chimpanzee.Your a monkey right where you sit.
@Modafuckaz In the bible it talks about unicorns...Unicorns are not real. In the bible it calls a bat a bird...A bat is a mamal. In the bible it says the earth is flat...The earth is round. You think because humankind has developed hundreds of languages over thousands of years that proves god. Or are you saying because there are nouns and conjunction words in each language god is real? Not sure what your point is. The Human genome is 97% chimpanzee.Your a monkey right where you sit.
@Zentz29 your opinion has no value to my eyes. i know you're ignorant blind and hopeless, you think everything is about science, be it i don't care about you or your future.
i rather be dead than ignorant about the truth. Hit me up when you evolve again k?
TFoot, stop wasting time on this imbecile. VFangx is on of millions that need religion as an anesthetic for subjects they can't comprehend. His understanding of scientific method is similar to a fishes understanding of flight.
TFoot, stop wasting time on this imbecile. VFangx is on of millions that need religion as an anesthetic for subjects they can't comprehend. His understanding of scientific method is similar to a fishes understanding of flight.
I think you are wrong. Reality is no bubble, it is a needle and that needle is gleefully speeding toward the the bubble of ignorance that keeps many pineing for a more moral past that never actually existed, and science is the hand that speeds the needle on its way.
Now i can stop being poetic and just hope that your efforts make the future of the generations to come brighter that i will never know.
@420gma I know, Buddhists as far as I know are just spiritual and don't worship any god or higher being. Just reading some scripture about Buddhism has convinced me that if everyone lived their life with Buddha's teachings than the world would be a much better place. It's the least violent religion.
VenomfangX really is going out of his way to prove that
If someone yells something long enough and loud enough, and eliminates those who disagree, it becomes fact.
I pointed out some fallacies in his videos calmly and quoting my sources, I am now blocked from commenting and most of his videos have ratings disabled.
I guess that sure taught me that facts aren't facts if he doesn't like it.
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once 4:44 hit i loled hard. but in all seriousness this all leads to a very valid truth that creationist type people simply make illogical allusions when dealing with science that someone with similar knowledge to his or own sees as logical and therefore truthful. they avoid anything they dont understand in the argument and write it off with a bull crap statement basically.
VFX Is the product of early childhood conditioning, (brainwashing). The the most astonishing thing about religious people is how difficult it is to reach them with the truth. How unfortunate! I use to be a christian. It took years of hard inner struggle against reality to shake my faith. Now the only struggle I have is taking christians seriously. Thank you thunderf00t for all the hard work that went into this series, It is by far my favorite.
honestly i dont understand christians who are attacking science.... they are sitting in front of a computer for crying out loud!!! did their god give it to them? nope, sorry, it was science
They weren't killing people for saying that it was round. They were killing/arresting/excommunicating people on the grounds that they were saying that it wasn't the center of the universe. That was always the big issue that got them rilled up.
2. God or any form of higher intelligence, if it exist, cannot be proven or disproven. You show me a book that says about a God, i will show you a book about Leprechauns. Then we can debate, you can say i never seen a Leprechaun, and i can say i never seen a God.
3.All religions have they're dark side, but they have a good side, if you somehow manage to join all religions, you probably have more holidays than anyone.
@boblafro I'm guessing the idea is that if they do anything thats later pointed out as immoral--especially killing, then they're not a true christian, right??? **steps away from god**
@Omot1122 what about the Spanish inquisition, and that was between to sects of the same religion. Oh and there was the crusades, colonization, forced 'enrolment'.
@Omot1122 i was referring the sentence not my misunderstanding of the words. look up what the church did to people during the inquisition and then tell me again they were human too
Why do people always 'Thank God' when things go well for them, but refuse to condemn their imaginary friend when things go bad? Tsunami kills 180,000 people and the church says nothing. One bloke found floating at sea on a raft afterwards and it's gods will that he survived. Hmmmm. Religion is simply the biggest con ever played on mankind.
This cracks me up, you have no understanding do you? Lets but for a moment ponder on theses thoughts, you would rather believe that when you die, your done because after all we have no purpose, we are here by blind miracles.. ehem.. i mean chance so we might as well kill other people for natural selection(hitler did it). To be honest with you i was agnostic but coming from your lack of evidence i would much rather die knowing i can go to heaven, plus they dont speak in jargon!
@77FallenHero77 Yes, because "natural" selection dictates that total genocide is good for a species. Oh wait, no, that's just you and your primitive fantasies. Natural selection in reality dictates that those that are willing to band together and survive will live, wheras those that do not must adapt somehow, such as by using camoflague. Adolph Hitler though believed in Social Darwinism, which was created by an opponet of evolution who said it meant "Survival of the fittest"
@77FallenHero77 So if I want to go to a heaven made of chocolate and delicious fruit, I can just choose to believ that it works like that and it will happen. Ok, I choose to believe in the chocolate heaven. I'd rather believe that, so it must be true.
you thunderfoot are swaying peoples opinions with your factual based videos, im not saying that what you are saying is innacurate but instead of throwing your opinion out there for the world (or in this case youtube) to argue you should get on with life and not preach them to everyone else, claiming at the same time that everyone is wrong,
funnily enough i would have agreed with you, but after watching your burning of the qurans and claiming its for free speech i see your videos as pathetic
It makes me so angry that people can be that ignorant and dumb. When I graduate from college, I am honestly debating moving to Sweden to escape this idiocy.
most scientifically accurate book in the world? ok..show me where in the bible it explains 1+1=2...until i see that passage..i'll have to assume an elementary mathematics book is superior. shouldn't be hard..even the most simple scientific fact should be in the most scientifically accurate book ever.....right?
Today I wrote an Essay in school about the subject of "Hope" and what it can cause for the future. I stated that I hoped for less hope, seeing how Religion prevents Science. Afterwards, me and my BEST FRIEND who's an Atheist (like me) had a personal debate weather mankind needs the hope for God or not. He was pro I was not. At the end of our debate I concluded that just because you're an Atheist you don't need to mock Religion, which I do but my friend don't. :) Nice guy huh?
now back it up just a smidge thats a pretty big absolute saying that religion has never achieved anything ever, and its also wrong, religions have achieved philosophies followed by billions, amassed huge wealth and political power and it is because of religious patronage that we have a lot of great art not to mention it is because of catholicism and Islam that so many great writings were saved and preserved in a time when literacy was nil in most of Africa and northern Europe after Rome(cont)
Does anybody else see the irony in VF's surroundings? Science apparently is so flawed and flimsy an endeavor that he is proving it by running his microphone, computer, and editing software all by magical unicorn juice. Those components must have materialized for his personal crusade which was posted to Youtube (Again..amazing job unicorns) as instruments of truth. And...you guessed it...his pillows, sheets, bed, hair care products, clothes, room, soap, and compound bow..all conceived by Unicorn.
these clowns attack science on a continual bases, yet if we removed them out of there bubble, thed come running sceaming to get use of all the mod cons thats been developed through science technology. creationist fools like fang are so embeded in there religion, theve lost all sense of reality. how sad that we have to drag these idoits kicking and screaming like little children resisting there first day at school into this millenia. this subjet should not be up for debate. its outdated nonsense
hahaha "the bible is the most scientifically accurate book in the entire world!" except for that whole part where it says that god created light before the sun and vegitation before the sun although the sun is needed for just about all life to exist (except deep sea creatures)
@wickwack12 No, no, no - you miss Venom's point. He's really making a very clever statement. Remember, he doesn't have any belief in science. He thinks its flawed and ridiculous. Saying that the bible is the most scientifically accurate book in the entire world is just his way of saying "my religion is stupid." Or, better yet, "I'm stupid." And I think that no amount of philosophers or scientific method would find this point in doubt.
You know, that would be lovely. PLEASE stop offering us you secular humanist logic, and let us preach the Word uninhibited. You are so gorged into your sins you don't even realize that we are coming from a good place. God has very specific judgments for those who deny His creator-ship and I would very much like to spare as many of my brothers and sisters this turmoil as I can.
@GodIncreasesFreedom And what exactly will all your preaching do? What sins has Thunerf00t gorged into? Again if your claims are that we can't understand God how are you so sure of his specific judgments and his "creator-ship"? Instead of issuing people threats on God's will, give us evidence (not the Bible) that will allow us to even consider thinking about the mere existence of this invisible man. For now, keep God to yourself. Logic has better things to offer than religion.
The problem with all you people is that when some Christian troll (PCS or GodIncreasesFreedom) says that the Bible is scientifically accurate, you go out of your way to give them a rational reply.
If some troll made the claim that his penis is so large, its gravitational pull is the reason why the moon still orbits the earth.....are you going to start proving him wrong with logic?
These people should be treated as trolls till they get the message that they, and their magic book are a joke.
Other than the papyrus, the old testament said all those things before the things u have listed (FYI some of the bible had been written by that point)
And it was the pope and the Vatican that punished people for believing Heliocentric beliefs. (The pope also thinks he is god on earth, which is also anti-bible) The Vatican used to kill Christians for OWNING a bible (Coucil of Talrouse) As an agency of the Devil, of course the Vatican would obscure the scientific facts found in the bible.
And before science proved that bats are mammals the bible claimed that they were birds.
Before science proved that our universe holds MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of galaxies and that the earth orbits the sun, the bible said that God just needed one day to create the stars (suns and galaxies) but 6 to create earth and that the sun and all the stars would orbit earth.
@NKA23 A rough estimate is given in the appropriate Darkmatter2525 video. The Most Wrong Anyone Ever Was. I believe the number was somewhere around the neighbourhood of 49 Octillion days to create all the stars. That's 49,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. That'd really ruin your weekend.
douchebag! dont you listen? look at the other vids of tunderfoot and shut up! how can you believe your own words? open your little mind and step out of your little fantasy world! its science bitches! ^^ greets from germany!
The bible did say the earth was round: a circle, a dome, a tent. All of which have a flat base. the bible preaches flat earth.
And whats with your name? god increases freedom?
omniscience. all knowing. knows your future. that means the things you do isn't free will, but merely following the footsteps of a pre-designed life where free-will only exists in the deluded minds of the follower.
@Stairc The bible has been made for people who knows in his heart that there is a God, with bible or without it, becasue this one has to happen first inside the person, and (second) try to understand the bible, according to his capacity, which will be increased in continuing meditation, and the most important, asking God for understanding becasue this book is simple and extremely profound at the same time. The bible doesnt say the sun moved around the Earth.
@xchris1800 The bible does imply that the sun moves around the earth, which is why the church burned anyone who said otherwise for so long. However, it doesn't matter. I notice you didn't discount any of the other claims above - which are just some of the crazy, obviously wrong things in it (obvious now, not then).
I like that you admit that the Bible is made for people who already have succumbed to the comfortable delusion of an imaginary parent. I couldn't agree with you more. =)
@Stairc "Evolution has nothing to do with the creation of the universe"
You are right, I asked How can evolutionist be confused about the origin of the universe? or you will say that you dont think and makes comments in that matter?
"the answer is as yet unknown."
But what do you think? why dont you try to get an intelligent explanation. we do not need to be very scientist to get a coherent answer.
"The bible does imply that the sun moves around the earth", your argument (cnt1)
@xchris1800 I referenced evolution because you specified evolutionists. If it has nothing to do with your question, don't frame it that way.
Per the answer being unknown, that's how an intelligent mind treats such a tremendous question of the nature of reality's very foundation without there yet being conclusive evidence for any suggested model. Without evidence, how can a rational mind NOT be confused as to the origin of the universe?
However, the lecture I provided is a compelling argument
@Stairc "However, the lecture I provided is a compelling argument"
This is your compelling argument "- the answer is as yet unknown. However, it's likely, "Both and Neither". But I may guess that you are sure, that God does not exist.
Now, you know that we believe that God created the universe from literally nothing. It sounds absurd. however by using maths we are not surprise to get this:
@Stairc "the church burned anyone.. ". You yourself realize that it is not the bible that claim that.
"I notice you didn't discount any of the other claims above"
I think the rest of them are easier than the first to answer. So if you can prove your first assertion, I will give for granted that you are right in the other assertions.
What happens to us after death? Is everything over? Is there no God, is there not Jesus? (cnt2)
@xchris1800 The bible claims rape, murder and genocide done by holy men and burnings too. Commandments to burn people in the name of god as well. You haven't read the bible have you?
But the burnings I'm talking about are historical facts. That's why I trust them.
In your questions as to what happens after death - you reveal your motivation. You have questions that scare you so you want a comforting answer. Religion claims to offer one, so you throw yourself at it without a rational thought.
@xchris1800 And this is where you lose all credibility. Simply defining one ill-informed proposition as a number and another as another number and then giving a non-numerical concept as god is patently ridiculous. The universe is far more complex than you describe, and what scientists refer to as 'nothing' is actually a series of quantum fields that make up more than 70% of the energy in the universe. You should learn more about what you claim to discuss.
@xchris1800 You can hardly be surprised that I find it unreasonable to describe the most convincing model for the birth of the universe within 500 characters in a youtube comment. I instead provided you an hour long lecture on the subject by a brilliant physicist. The argument can't be adequately distilled into 500 characters. This is an answer to your question, however you might like to ignore it for cheap points. "A Universe from Nothing". Search the video now.
@xchris1800 Regarding your repeated questions about what happens after death, I repeat that we don't know. If you asked me the capital of North Dakota I also would not know. However, I would not feel compelled to make up a fake city name and pass it off as genuine knowledge, nor would I think that lack of this personal knowledge proves there must be a supernatural force at work.
Lack of knowledge of a subject is not unacceptable. There are many things we do not know. Faith solves nothing.
@xchris1800 However, since you seem desperate for a suggestion - I expect that, considering how all our studies demonstrate that identity and personality depends on the physical functions of the brain - when that brain is no longer operating the 'person' in question simply stops existing. You might as well ask what happens to computer software after the computer dies.
Of course, I could be utterly wrong about this - but based on the science involved it seems reasonable to conclude.I don't know
@Stairc How can evolutionist be confused about the origin of the universe? Is that true that nothing created everything? or is that true that the universe is eternal? Can you explain your position?
@xchris1800 Easily. Evolution has nothing to do with the creation of the universe. It only has to do with an explanation of how lifeforms become the way they are.
As for your questions about the universe's beginning - the answer is as yet unknown. However, it's likely, "Both and Neither". It's a lot more complicated than a simple explanation. If you're curious, check out the youtube lecture, "A Universe From Nothing" - it explains current physicists' ideas.
@MrRik338 I have other fantasy books on my shelf and their much better written than the bible. They actually have coherent plots and their main characters are noble heroes, not genocidal madmen.
@Stairc To be honest I find that the Quran has much more scientific facts, at least ones less vague. I'm an Atheist and can say that but weighed against the prejudices in either the bible or the Quran.....I'm gonna have to say that Buddhists are some of the most chill people on Earth.
If the unicorn is invisible, how can it be pink?
BrandonSchleifer 4 days ago
@BrandonSchleifer You just gotta have faith that it's pink.
SuperFlameRing 1 day ago
Prior to claiming science cannot touch it, how would you know something exists outside of the physical world in the first place?
The answer is 'feelings.'
Arcexey 1 week ago
Rationalists--who are overwhelmingly atheists--are the ones who built this lovely modern world. The others just live here. Maybe we should go on strike like Ayn Rand said (even though I hate that bitch...). It's starting to sound like a good idea.
tstruss912 1 week ago
Why would a person who CLEARLY uses things only made possible by science be against science, Venomfangx is obviously a mastermind POE.
grimmnekrokvlt 1 week ago
"The Bible is scientifically accurate."
"God can't be proved or disproved by science."
Which one is it? You can't have both.
MastermindX 2 weeks ago
Laugh my ass off everytime he says "The bible is the most scientifically accurate book in the world" of fuck that was good XD
tiger1chu 1 month ago 19
@tiger1chu Try the McGraw-Hill encyclopedia of science and technology 10000 some pages of scientifically and technologically accurate facts! :D haha
poodlelord 3 weeks ago
Hearing Venomfangx even say the word "science" is like watching roadkill. That brain of his would be perfectly capable of rational thought if only he'd let it. It's just sad.
offwithurhead 1 month ago
I thought thought VFXs videos were spoof videos!
indexfossil1967 1 month ago
What the Fuck is this? Why are you moving your lips over thunderf00t's wise remarks?
EinSofQuester 2 months ago
hahaha this is awesome :D
Floortjahh 2 months ago
Sometimes I think it would be good to be religious, it's kinda like inviting people over to your house making up a game and then bending the rules to however you want. And then saying it's ok cause my dad said so, even though he has no idea what you are talking about and you never told him.
TheDipwom 2 months ago
5:32 "fucks over our future" ....nice
SANHEDRIN666 3 months ago
Anybody who says the Bible is the most scientifically accurate book in the world already loses ALL credibility to me. They aren't even worthy of a debate unless I see a modicum of hope that they might alter their viewpoint or unless I am bored.
MrNicMachiavelli 3 months ago
I'm embarrassed to be from the same hemisphere as venomfangx.....
DoItYouWont100 4 months ago
"as long as it doesn't scare the horses" LMFAO
bobthecat420 4 months ago
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU TRY READING SOME BOOKS ON REA;LTIY YOU ARE AN ASS
dutchinforres 5 months ago
a person who is not color blind bus a balloon and tells his color blind friend it is red. His friends disagrees and tells hims no it's blue. Who is right here? In this case they both are, they are just looking at the balloon from two different side points. The thing about truth is it's true, whether you believe it or not.
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*facepalm* thunderfoot you're lost lol..
he keeps saying how Science is the real deal and how much human can benefit from it yet not realize the God we believe in, created science,in this world everyone is a"student" God or the flying spaghetti monster call it whatever you want does not need to study his whole existence to acquire knowledge because he MADE ALL SCIENCES.
Modafuckaz 5 months ago
@Modafuckaz IF THERE WAS NOTHING BEFORE GOD CREATED IT? WHO OR WHAT CREATED GOD. Your whole argument is little more than the chicken and the egg.
zacharykelway 5 months ago
@zacharykelway first of all God is eternal, he's the creator not the creature, therefore no need to keep asking who created God, you think i never asked myself? you get it? obviously the chicken was first! you were born before your mother? duh..
Modafuckaz 5 months ago
@zacharykelway i beleive in God but i don't really consider myself as a christian i don't go to church i basicly really understood the Bible's message anyway i actually try to listen to what you evolutionists think, and i aslo pretend to be a curious atheist to to other christians to see how they can defend their CONVICTION. there is so many evindences that dissaproves evolution, here's one : THE ORIGIN OF WORDS
Modafuckaz 5 months ago
@Modafuckaz Origin of words that disproves evolution? Really? Well, I guess this is better than the banana example. Hey, how about this one... White-Americans came from Europe. A few centuries later, voila! HOWDY PARTNER! Have you heard a native African tribe speak to each other? Clicks and grunts. I'm pretty damn sure that's how it sounded in the beginning.
iz2sicc 3 months ago
@iz2sicc i'm talking about way back, wayyyyy back..
Modafuckaz 3 months ago
@Modafuckaz KEEP WATCHING DUDE. MAKE SURE U WATCH Venomfangx apologizes to internets.
zacharykelway 5 months ago
@zacharykelway i'v watched it and he was obvioulsy not mentaly strong enuff.. hit me up when you evolve again k?
Modafuckaz 5 months ago
@Modafuckaz Your comments about evolution prove you know nothing about paleontology or Evolution. You obviously are lying and did not watch the video I suggested. Otherwise you would have anwsered accordingly. SO your saying God is no linear? I'm confused? You think something can exist without a beginning? What is god made of? What did he make the universe out of? Serious Don't you need materials? I'm sorry you were probably taught not to question this stuff. YOU CAN LIVE A LIE UNTIL YOU DIE!
zacharykelway 5 months ago
@zacharykelway i'v watched it long time ago.. i already told you i asked myself them questions but i got my answers, AND WHAT DOES THE WORD ETERNAL MEANS! GOD IS A SPIRIT! nobody thaught me nothing! i searched the truth, and yes you'r right i don't know much about paloeontology and evolution, but everything i heard and read was nonsense! i can understand you doubting about God but evolution is scientificly impossible! oh no its a proven fact right? nah its just lies covering other lies.
Modafuckaz 5 months ago
@Modafuckaz i beleive in God but i don't really consider myself as a christian i don't go to church i basicly really understood the Bible's message anyway i actually try to listen to what you evolutionists think, and i aslo pretend to be a curious atheist to to other christians to see how they can defend their CONVICTION. there is so many evindences that dissaproves evolution, here's one : THE ORIGIN OF WORDS
Modafuckaz 5 months ago
@Modafuckaz
The origin of words? Etymology itself is evidence of evolution. In The Beginning (to put it biblically) there were just grunts; different grunts for different objects or concepts. These evolved as we evolved. Humans use their speech organs to communicate, just as we use our opposable thumbs to help us survive. Case in point? Children who grow up in the wild develop their own language; nouns, verbs, grammar. It's natural, not divine.
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Modafuckaz 5 months ago
@zacharykelway
you appear to me as a blind person who has never seen an apple, but have seen a pear, but someone told you the pear is an apple, and you beleived it your whole life, so now the its a fact, that pear is an apple!
Modafuckaz 5 months ago
@zacharykelway and every child learn communication skill and eloquence from his parents or sibling, you probably think when that first man became human language popped out his brain? how was he able to mention word such as "the" "because" "it's" ? oh and why are animals called animals? the bible tells us that God let them choose a name for individuals but God names the scpecies! monkey=animal animal= animal
human=human where the word human comes from? why aren't called boxes? you get it?
Modafuckaz 5 months ago
@Modafuckaz In the bible it talks about unicorns...Unicorns are not real. In the bible it calls a bat a bird...A bat is a mamal. In the bible it says the earth is flat...The earth is round. You think because humankind has developed hundreds of languages over thousands of years that proves god. Or are you saying because there are nouns and conjunction words in each language god is real? Not sure what your point is. The Human genome is 97% chimpanzee.Your a monkey right where you sit.
zacharykelway 5 months ago
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@Modafuckaz In the bible it talks about unicorns...Unicorns are not real. In the bible it calls a bat a bird...A bat is a mamal. In the bible it says the earth is flat...The earth is round. You think because humankind has developed hundreds of languages over thousands of years that proves god. Or are you saying because there are nouns and conjunction words in each language god is real? Not sure what your point is. The Human genome is 97% chimpanzee.Your a monkey right where you sit.
zacharykelway 5 months ago
@Modafuckaz You are so fucking stupid. Please remove yourself from the gene pool, moron...
Zentz29 3 months ago
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@Zentz29 your opinion has no value to my eyes. i know you're ignorant blind and hopeless, you think everything is about science, be it i don't care about you or your future.
i rather be dead than ignorant about the truth. Hit me up when you evolve again k?
Modafuckaz 3 months ago
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Modafuckaz 5 months ago
I passionately and wholeheartedly agree with this video. Creationism is an absurdity that has no place in our intellectually advanced society.
Aeolianshredhead 5 months ago
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TFoot, stop wasting time on this imbecile. VFangx is on of millions that need religion as an anesthetic for subjects they can't comprehend. His understanding of scientific method is similar to a fishes understanding of flight.
FrodoDojo 5 months ago
TFoot, stop wasting time on this imbecile. VFangx is on of millions that need religion as an anesthetic for subjects they can't comprehend. His understanding of scientific method is similar to a fishes understanding of flight.
FrodoDojo 5 months ago
I think you are wrong. Reality is no bubble, it is a needle and that needle is gleefully speeding toward the the bubble of ignorance that keeps many pineing for a more moral past that never actually existed, and science is the hand that speeds the needle on its way.
Now i can stop being poetic and just hope that your efforts make the future of the generations to come brighter that i will never know.
FattyMcFox 5 months ago
Would 'totally destroyed' be an understatement?
Battleguild 5 months ago
@420gma I know, Buddhists as far as I know are just spiritual and don't worship any god or higher being. Just reading some scripture about Buddhism has convinced me that if everyone lived their life with Buddha's teachings than the world would be a much better place. It's the least violent religion.
pat5168 5 months ago
@kamenridertiki Or blocks the ratings or stops comments.
pat5168 6 months ago
I will have you know the invisible pink unicorn likes jalapenos on it's pizza.
kamenridertiki 6 months ago 46
@kamenridertiki You fucking blasphemer! She eats green peppers and tomatos.
Repent, sinner or she will crush you under her hooves..
TheDirectorBrad 5 months ago
@kamenridertiki its*
TearsOfWar1 1 week ago
@TearsOfWar1 It's been 5 months since that post, no one cares anymore.
Alakrit 2 days ago
1st world refers to capitalist countries.
jaykgrey 6 months ago
VenomfangX really is going out of his way to prove that
If someone yells something long enough and loud enough, and eliminates those who disagree, it becomes fact.
I pointed out some fallacies in his videos calmly and quoting my sources, I am now blocked from commenting and most of his videos have ratings disabled.
I guess that sure taught me that facts aren't facts if he doesn't like it.
pat5168 6 months ago
@pat5168 its interesting that a person who wants a debate blocks any one with a different opinion.
kamenridertiki 6 months ago
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TheServiceWeb 6 months ago
Creationism seems to me to be a result of cognitive dissonance.
jeremythehuman 6 months ago
Science bubble?, man you spent too much of your time debating this uneducated fella.
hectoreguiluz 6 months ago
In science we trust.
MoralRapist 6 months ago
I pray to Stephen Hawking, Neil deGrass Tyson , and Michio Kaku, those are the real "gods"
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TheServiceWeb 6 months ago
I pray to Rassilon when the shit gets out of hand but when he cant help! I go for SPLIFF
yeah Tardis baby, take me to where ever -_-
pure blue smoke, mild and cough free better than any Captain Jack can provide
The8thDOCTOR 6 months ago
Going of what I have learned for this, religion is basicly an excuse for people to kill one another, how can anyone defend and have faith in something like that. Religion is a hinderance on humanity, it causes no good, only greef and destruction and turns fellow man against each other. Thunderfoot hit the nail on the head in this video. VenomfangX, you are a twat and you are too stupid and blind to even see this, what a waste of a human being.
NANOFORGE 7 months ago
thank god for this video!
calm down its a figure of speech.
i didnt mean it literally
TheCowboySantos 7 months ago
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TheServiceWeb 7 months ago
"I'm sure you are aware of this, but the scientific method cannot be applied to god" -PCS
AHAHAhAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAhahaha ahah ahahH A HAH AHAHAHAHAHAH HA!!
No shit!
Ozarkorganicshiitake 7 months ago
Bubble = reality
I lol'd so hard XD
DenoNomer 7 months ago
"You're engaging in an activity that fucks over our future." Haha couldn't have said it any better myself.
TheGeofile 7 months ago
At least Venomfang is somewhat attractive =/
FalseProphet501 7 months ago
once 4:44 hit i loled hard. but in all seriousness this all leads to a very valid truth that creationist type people simply make illogical allusions when dealing with science that someone with similar knowledge to his or own sees as logical and therefore truthful. they avoid anything they dont understand in the argument and write it off with a bull crap statement basically.
ajb3177 7 months ago
everybody knows that the invisible pink unicorn is allergic to pizza
TheHeineken1990 7 months ago
@TheHeineken1990 It IS!? Dude, I've been sharing my pizza with it for the last few weeks! Holy moley, I gotta get it to a hospital now!
Toshinben 7 months ago
its a shame, he's really hot- but he won't put out, much less to a gay guy haha!
DoolaDoola 8 months ago 38
@DoolaDoola Yes I too find it depressing that such a cutie would be a willfully ignorant bigot. What a waste.
FiveStarsPerShoulder 7 months ago
@DoolaDoola Well I wouldn't bet on that remember ted haggert ?! lol
420gma 5 months ago
@DoolaDoola Best comment ever.
Gagi420 4 months ago
VFX Is the product of early childhood conditioning, (brainwashing). The the most astonishing thing about religious people is how difficult it is to reach them with the truth. How unfortunate! I use to be a christian. It took years of hard inner struggle against reality to shake my faith. Now the only struggle I have is taking christians seriously. Thank you thunderf00t for all the hard work that went into this series, It is by far my favorite.
Crazy80563 8 months ago
2:20 D'AWWW THE BABY SQUIRREL!!!!!!
BlueChewingGum 8 months ago
VFX is a comedian??
What a pile of uneducated shit?
Refused2Break 8 months ago
Yes, this is the point. Faith is not limited.
sowcratees 9 months ago
@Thunderf00t man you are a legend keep up the good work of owning the brainwashed creationists
Adzer2k10 9 months ago
honestly i dont understand christians who are attacking science.... they are sitting in front of a computer for crying out loud!!! did their god give it to them? nope, sorry, it was science
shandow15 9 months ago
@boblafro
They weren't killing people for saying that it was round. They were killing/arresting/excommunicating people on the grounds that they were saying that it wasn't the center of the universe. That was always the big issue that got them rilled up.
Einargizz 9 months ago
1. The bible was just a book.
2. God or any form of higher intelligence, if it exist, cannot be proven or disproven. You show me a book that says about a God, i will show you a book about Leprechauns. Then we can debate, you can say i never seen a Leprechaun, and i can say i never seen a God.
3.All religions have they're dark side, but they have a good side, if you somehow manage to join all religions, you probably have more holidays than anyone.
villalba874 9 months ago
@boblafro I'm guessing the idea is that if they do anything thats later pointed out as immoral--especially killing, then they're not a true christian, right??? **steps away from god**
miretchin 9 months ago
@boblafro
christians dont kill people
people kill people
understand?
Omot1122 10 months ago
@Omot1122 what about the Spanish inquisition, and that was between to sects of the same religion. Oh and there was the crusades, colonization, forced 'enrolment'.
harryvonlipwig 9 months ago
@harryvonlipwig yeah they were humans too
Omot1122 9 months ago
@Omot1122 what???
harryvonlipwig 9 months ago
@harryvonlipwig Indeed.
Omot1122 9 months ago
@Omot1122 i was referring the sentence not my misunderstanding of the words. look up what the church did to people during the inquisition and then tell me again they were human too
harryvonlipwig 9 months ago
@harryvonlipwig Indeed you did
Omot1122 9 months ago
@Omot1122 hahaha i thought you'd say that again .. just like a kid, i bet you say because to a lot of questions asked to you
harryvonlipwig 9 months ago
@harryvonlipwig but of course
Omot1122 9 months ago
@Omot1122 that's some shitty trolling and you'll prove it by replying
harryvonlipwig 9 months ago
@harryvonlipwig yes you are right
Omot1122 9 months ago
I think the invisible pink unicorn likes cheese pizza...
Andy32268 10 months ago
Why do people always 'Thank God' when things go well for them, but refuse to condemn their imaginary friend when things go bad? Tsunami kills 180,000 people and the church says nothing. One bloke found floating at sea on a raft afterwards and it's gods will that he survived. Hmmmm. Religion is simply the biggest con ever played on mankind.
channelboomer 10 months ago
this retard dude with the bad haircut is logically inconsistent.
ArsonistInUrFirewall 10 months ago
Press 3 repeatedly
altairx26 10 months ago
Thunderfoot, have you nothing better to do? Why don't you try picking on someone your own size. This makes you look pathetic.
nicolibri 10 months ago
@nicolibri You look pathetic for saying this about 3 years after the Venomfangx controversy when it would have been relevant.
crazyinsane500 10 months ago
This cracks me up, you have no understanding do you? Lets but for a moment ponder on theses thoughts, you would rather believe that when you die, your done because after all we have no purpose, we are here by blind miracles.. ehem.. i mean chance so we might as well kill other people for natural selection(hitler did it). To be honest with you i was agnostic but coming from your lack of evidence i would much rather die knowing i can go to heaven, plus they dont speak in jargon!
77FallenHero77 10 months ago
@77FallenHero77 Yes, because "natural" selection dictates that total genocide is good for a species. Oh wait, no, that's just you and your primitive fantasies. Natural selection in reality dictates that those that are willing to band together and survive will live, wheras those that do not must adapt somehow, such as by using camoflague. Adolph Hitler though believed in Social Darwinism, which was created by an opponet of evolution who said it meant "Survival of the fittest"
crazyinsane500 10 months ago
@77FallenHero77 So if I want to go to a heaven made of chocolate and delicious fruit, I can just choose to believ that it works like that and it will happen. Ok, I choose to believe in the chocolate heaven. I'd rather believe that, so it must be true.
floatingpineapple 10 months ago
you thunderfoot are swaying peoples opinions with your factual based videos, im not saying that what you are saying is innacurate but instead of throwing your opinion out there for the world (or in this case youtube) to argue you should get on with life and not preach them to everyone else, claiming at the same time that everyone is wrong,
funnily enough i would have agreed with you, but after watching your burning of the qurans and claiming its for free speech i see your videos as pathetic
TheUberCayk 10 months ago
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john17972 11 months ago
02:42 Hahahahah. WHat a fucking idiot.
gulbirk 11 months ago
VenomFang is a moron. Everybody knows that the Qur'an is the most accurate scientific book(is such a thing even possible?) in the entire world.
ahmedeox 11 months ago
It makes me so angry that people can be that ignorant and dumb. When I graduate from college, I am honestly debating moving to Sweden to escape this idiocy.
gnarly2smooth 11 months ago
@boblafro Ezekiel 23 19:20. look it up, and lol
Gnomeman55 11 months ago
most scientifically accurate book in the world? ok..show me where in the bible it explains 1+1=2...until i see that passage..i'll have to assume an elementary mathematics book is superior. shouldn't be hard..even the most simple scientific fact should be in the most scientifically accurate book ever.....right?
Digityus 11 months ago
khhhtshhhh whipped
modify91 11 months ago
i just found your channel today. You are so awesome thunder.
royal69 11 months ago
Today I wrote an Essay in school about the subject of "Hope" and what it can cause for the future. I stated that I hoped for less hope, seeing how Religion prevents Science. Afterwards, me and my BEST FRIEND who's an Atheist (like me) had a personal debate weather mankind needs the hope for God or not. He was pro I was not. At the end of our debate I concluded that just because you're an Atheist you don't need to mock Religion, which I do but my friend don't. :) Nice guy huh?
Rex0142king 11 months ago
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ngathant88 11 months ago
VenomFangX: Worst Canadian in Human History
MorseCoach 11 months ago
now back it up just a smidge thats a pretty big absolute saying that religion has never achieved anything ever, and its also wrong, religions have achieved philosophies followed by billions, amassed huge wealth and political power and it is because of religious patronage that we have a lot of great art not to mention it is because of catholicism and Islam that so many great writings were saved and preserved in a time when literacy was nil in most of Africa and northern Europe after Rome(cont)
Bleakillusion 11 months ago
@Bleakillusion (cont) using blanket statements like that makes you know better than Creationists
Bleakillusion 11 months ago
Does anybody else see the irony in VF's surroundings? Science apparently is so flawed and flimsy an endeavor that he is proving it by running his microphone, computer, and editing software all by magical unicorn juice. Those components must have materialized for his personal crusade which was posted to Youtube (Again..amazing job unicorns) as instruments of truth. And...you guessed it...his pillows, sheets, bed, hair care products, clothes, room, soap, and compound bow..all conceived by Unicorn.
Sn4pDr4gon 11 months ago
awesome video, matrix-reference is indeed very accurate, good job !
SpacedNL 11 months ago
these clowns attack science on a continual bases, yet if we removed them out of there bubble, thed come running sceaming to get use of all the mod cons thats been developed through science technology. creationist fools like fang are so embeded in there religion, theve lost all sense of reality. how sad that we have to drag these idoits kicking and screaming like little children resisting there first day at school into this millenia. this subjet should not be up for debate. its outdated nonsense
kram83au 1 year ago
hahaha "the bible is the most scientifically accurate book in the entire world!" except for that whole part where it says that god created light before the sun and vegitation before the sun although the sun is needed for just about all life to exist (except deep sea creatures)
wickwack12 1 year ago
@wickwack12 No, no, no - you miss Venom's point. He's really making a very clever statement. Remember, he doesn't have any belief in science. He thinks its flawed and ridiculous. Saying that the bible is the most scientifically accurate book in the entire world is just his way of saying "my religion is stupid." Or, better yet, "I'm stupid." And I think that no amount of philosophers or scientific method would find this point in doubt.
Stairc 1 year ago
@Stairc Good point XD
RestlessMalevolance 1 year ago
@RestlessMalevolance Thanks, I try. =)
Stairc 1 year ago
i love you for making this video
undergroundpoet 1 year ago
I actually love your voice. And the words you say.
Evalowyn 1 year ago
I liked the part with Cypher.
ZeDingoBlag 1 year ago
"The bubble I live in is called reality" I thought that was pretty funny.
GodIncreasesFreedom is right except God isn't real, sorry!
wolfieatthedoor 1 year ago
You know, that would be lovely. PLEASE stop offering us you secular humanist logic, and let us preach the Word uninhibited. You are so gorged into your sins you don't even realize that we are coming from a good place. God has very specific judgments for those who deny His creator-ship and I would very much like to spare as many of my brothers and sisters this turmoil as I can.
GodIncreasesFreedom 1 year ago
@GodIncreasesFreedom And what exactly will all your preaching do? What sins has Thunerf00t gorged into? Again if your claims are that we can't understand God how are you so sure of his specific judgments and his "creator-ship"? Instead of issuing people threats on God's will, give us evidence (not the Bible) that will allow us to even consider thinking about the mere existence of this invisible man. For now, keep God to yourself. Logic has better things to offer than religion.
Woopeehole1337 1 year ago
The problem with all you people is that when some Christian troll (PCS or GodIncreasesFreedom) says that the Bible is scientifically accurate, you go out of your way to give them a rational reply.
If some troll made the claim that his penis is so large, its gravitational pull is the reason why the moon still orbits the earth.....are you going to start proving him wrong with logic?
These people should be treated as trolls till they get the message that they, and their magic book are a joke.
AziMeX 1 year ago 7
Other than the papyrus, the old testament said all those things before the things u have listed (FYI some of the bible had been written by that point)
And it was the pope and the Vatican that punished people for believing Heliocentric beliefs. (The pope also thinks he is god on earth, which is also anti-bible) The Vatican used to kill Christians for OWNING a bible (Coucil of Talrouse) As an agency of the Devil, of course the Vatican would obscure the scientific facts found in the bible.
GodIncreasesFreedom 1 year ago
@GodIncreasesFreedom Before the bible declared anything at all...
Eratosthenes (276-194 BC) calculated the circumference of the earth to be about 40,000km
Euclid (300-~ BC) Implemented the mathematical system of Euclidian Geometry
Democritus (460-370BC) stated the initial Atomic Hypothesis
The Rhind papyrus (1700 BC) gives a very close number to pi. This number was 3.16049
Pythagoras (570-495 BC) proved a2 + b2 = c2; a theorem that is taught very early to kids
edualmendras 1 year ago 3
Before science declared it......
The Bible said the earth was round
The Bible said the sun had a path through the heavens (i.e. outer space)
The bible said there were springs on the ocean floor
The Bible said that the belt of Orion was widening
The Bible said there were polar ice caps at the furthest north and furthest south (Pretty impressive for a bunch archaic desert guys, doncha think?)
People who slam the Bible and Creation Theorists are ignorant of what they speak.
GodIncreasesFreedom 1 year ago
@GodIncreasesFreedom Can you back it up with scriptures?
animevet 1 year ago
And before science proved that bats are mammals the bible claimed that they were birds.
Before science proved that our universe holds MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of galaxies and that the earth orbits the sun, the bible said that God just needed one day to create the stars (suns and galaxies) but 6 to create earth and that the sun and all the stars would orbit earth.
NKA23 1 year ago
@NKA23 A rough estimate is given in the appropriate Darkmatter2525 video. The Most Wrong Anyone Ever Was. I believe the number was somewhere around the neighbourhood of 49 Octillion days to create all the stars. That's 49,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. That'd really ruin your weekend.
Zuifan 1 year ago
@GodIncreasesFreedom
douchebag! dont you listen? look at the other vids of tunderfoot and shut up! how can you believe your own words? open your little mind and step out of your little fantasy world! its science bitches! ^^ greets from germany!
GhostofZara 1 year ago
@GodIncreasesFreedom
The bible did say the earth was round: a circle, a dome, a tent. All of which have a flat base. the bible preaches flat earth.
And whats with your name? god increases freedom?
omniscience. all knowing. knows your future. that means the things you do isn't free will, but merely following the footsteps of a pre-designed life where free-will only exists in the deluded minds of the follower.
hawkister 1 year ago
@GodIncreasesFreedom Before science proved it wrong declared it...
The Bible said the sun moved around the earth
The Bible said that the earth rests on pillars
The Bible said that diseases are caused by demons
The Bible said that the earth was 6,000-10,000 years old
The Bible said the entire world was drowned in a flood
Pretty unimpressive, doncha think? But just what you'd expect from a bunch of archaic desert nomads. =)
Stairc 1 year ago 63
@Stairc The bible has been made for people who knows in his heart that there is a God, with bible or without it, becasue this one has to happen first inside the person, and (second) try to understand the bible, according to his capacity, which will be increased in continuing meditation, and the most important, asking God for understanding becasue this book is simple and extremely profound at the same time. The bible doesnt say the sun moved around the Earth.
xchris1800 11 months ago
@xchris1800 The bible does imply that the sun moves around the earth, which is why the church burned anyone who said otherwise for so long. However, it doesn't matter. I notice you didn't discount any of the other claims above - which are just some of the crazy, obviously wrong things in it (obvious now, not then).
I like that you admit that the Bible is made for people who already have succumbed to the comfortable delusion of an imaginary parent. I couldn't agree with you more. =)
Stairc 11 months ago
@Stairc "Evolution has nothing to do with the creation of the universe"
You are right, I asked How can evolutionist be confused about the origin of the universe? or you will say that you dont think and makes comments in that matter?
"the answer is as yet unknown."
But what do you think? why dont you try to get an intelligent explanation. we do not need to be very scientist to get a coherent answer.
"The bible does imply that the sun moves around the earth", your argument (cnt1)
xchris1800 11 months ago
@xchris1800 I referenced evolution because you specified evolutionists. If it has nothing to do with your question, don't frame it that way.
Per the answer being unknown, that's how an intelligent mind treats such a tremendous question of the nature of reality's very foundation without there yet being conclusive evidence for any suggested model. Without evidence, how can a rational mind NOT be confused as to the origin of the universe?
However, the lecture I provided is a compelling argument
Stairc 11 months ago
@Stairc "However, the lecture I provided is a compelling argument"
This is your compelling argument "- the answer is as yet unknown. However, it's likely, "Both and Neither". But I may guess that you are sure, that God does not exist.
Now, you know that we believe that God created the universe from literally nothing. It sounds absurd. however by using maths we are not surprise to get this:
1 = 0*(infinite)
previously making this calculations:
1/0.000...1 = 10000... (cnt1)
xchris1800 11 months ago
@Stairc "the church burned anyone.. ". You yourself realize that it is not the bible that claim that.
"I notice you didn't discount any of the other claims above"
I think the rest of them are easier than the first to answer. So if you can prove your first assertion, I will give for granted that you are right in the other assertions.
What happens to us after death? Is everything over? Is there no God, is there not Jesus? (cnt2)
xchris1800 11 months ago
@xchris1800 The bible claims rape, murder and genocide done by holy men and burnings too. Commandments to burn people in the name of god as well. You haven't read the bible have you?
But the burnings I'm talking about are historical facts. That's why I trust them.
In your questions as to what happens after death - you reveal your motivation. You have questions that scare you so you want a comforting answer. Religion claims to offer one, so you throw yourself at it without a rational thought.
Stairc 11 months ago
@Stairc 1 may represent the limited universe.
0 may represent nothing.
(infinite) may represent God.
it's interesting to see that 1 has both properties, of zero and infinite in it, if you think in a numeric line starting from zero.
You give up giving not argument showing your first assertion, your comments against the bible is just because you hate it or dont understand it.
the same happens with my question about what after death, and you dont give your answer, is there (cnt2)
xchris1800 11 months ago
@xchris1800 And this is where you lose all credibility. Simply defining one ill-informed proposition as a number and another as another number and then giving a non-numerical concept as god is patently ridiculous. The universe is far more complex than you describe, and what scientists refer to as 'nothing' is actually a series of quantum fields that make up more than 70% of the energy in the universe. You should learn more about what you claim to discuss.
Stairc 11 months ago
@xchris1800 You can hardly be surprised that I find it unreasonable to describe the most convincing model for the birth of the universe within 500 characters in a youtube comment. I instead provided you an hour long lecture on the subject by a brilliant physicist. The argument can't be adequately distilled into 500 characters. This is an answer to your question, however you might like to ignore it for cheap points. "A Universe from Nothing". Search the video now.
Stairc 11 months ago
@xchris1800 Regarding your repeated questions about what happens after death, I repeat that we don't know. If you asked me the capital of North Dakota I also would not know. However, I would not feel compelled to make up a fake city name and pass it off as genuine knowledge, nor would I think that lack of this personal knowledge proves there must be a supernatural force at work.
Lack of knowledge of a subject is not unacceptable. There are many things we do not know. Faith solves nothing.
Stairc 11 months ago
@xchris1800 However, since you seem desperate for a suggestion - I expect that, considering how all our studies demonstrate that identity and personality depends on the physical functions of the brain - when that brain is no longer operating the 'person' in question simply stops existing. You might as well ask what happens to computer software after the computer dies.
Of course, I could be utterly wrong about this - but based on the science involved it seems reasonable to conclude.I don't know
Stairc 11 months ago
@Stairc something dis-honest between us?
Is not my point gain an argument, my point is to know how solid an opossite argument against God can be.
Have a good day my friend.(cnt3)
xchris1800 11 months ago
@xchris1800 "Is not my point gain an argument, my point is to know how solid an opossite argument against God can be."
The argument against god is identical to the argument for reasoned, rational thinking. And that argument is rather strong.
Stairc 11 months ago
@Stairc How can evolutionist be confused about the origin of the universe? Is that true that nothing created everything? or is that true that the universe is eternal? Can you explain your position?
xchris1800 11 months ago
@xchris1800 Easily. Evolution has nothing to do with the creation of the universe. It only has to do with an explanation of how lifeforms become the way they are.
As for your questions about the universe's beginning - the answer is as yet unknown. However, it's likely, "Both and Neither". It's a lot more complicated than a simple explanation. If you're curious, check out the youtube lecture, "A Universe From Nothing" - it explains current physicists' ideas.
Stairc 11 months ago
@Stairc if u read the bible just read it as a fantasy book or something.
MrRik338 8 months ago
@MrRik338 I have other fantasy books on my shelf and their much better written than the bible. They actually have coherent plots and their main characters are noble heroes, not genocidal madmen.
Stairc 8 months ago
@Stairc haha true true here is the same
MrRik338 8 months ago
@Stairc
and the sad thing is, 2 of those things are stil believed by many idiot christians.
and the more hardcore ones still believe desease is caused by demons.
nothing has changed, religious idiots are still in power
Mikeybetts 8 months ago
@Mikeybetts And yet, we progress despite religion. It's a battle worth fighting. And that alone is enough to hope.
Stairc 8 months ago
@Stairc
Youtube -
They Sold Their Souls For Rock And Roll
PrayEveryDayNOW 7 months ago
@PrayEveryDayNOW *laughs*
Stairc 7 months ago
@Stairc To be honest I find that the Quran has much more scientific facts, at least ones less vague. I'm an Atheist and can say that but weighed against the prejudices in either the bible or the Quran.....I'm gonna have to say that Buddhists are some of the most chill people on Earth.
pat5168 6 months ago