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  • Good honest video - thanks for sharing. My opinion is that you are normal to have the views on evolution that you do - I had word for word the same sentiments as you prior to being around 30 years old. With age and observation you gradually realise that few things are for certain, and if you are intelligent enough, and study the subject thoroughly, you will discover that considering evolution to be a fact is niave. Evolution theory sounds logical, but it is founded on unproveable conjecture!

  • @UTKitty Gravity is a law dude.

  • You're in a microphone and I still can't hear you!

  • Evolutionism exists only as a theory. Evolutionism has yet to find any evidence to back it up. I've seen people say it is both a fact and a theory. Well, evolutionism is either true, or it isn't. The theory has yet prove itself. It's like saying the moon's core is made of cork. It's a fact and theory. No, it's not a fact because no one has proven what's at the core, but someone can have a theory that the moon has a cork center. Also, gravity is a physical law, not a theory.

  • Intuitive feelings against evolution are very strong in some people. Ayer, the philosopher, told Richard Dawkins, the biologist, that he couldn't imagine how anyone could believe in God after 1779 (publication of "Dialogues...") Dawkins disagreed -- he said before Darwin finally explained things, he would have had a very hard time accepting that the world hadn't been created by an intelligent being. Evolution is a VERY strong theory, but some still can't grasp the cumulative power of chance.

  • @Godusesamac

    I know that Wikipedia is hardly a noteworthy source, but their article on Gravitation has an excellent subsection on 'Newton's Theory of Gravitation' that clearly explains how the theory was replaced by General Relativity, based on a large number of observations that relativity explained, but the Theory of Gravity didn't.

    Compare this to the Theory of Evolution, which continues to be the dominant theory (and the only one that implies the data discovered as time goes by.)

  • @Godusesamac Also, at BEST that would be an argument against the THEORY of evolution, and not the PROCESS of evolution. Like saying "gravity is caused by elves"...doesn't claim that gravity doesn't exist, just gives an (obviously...I hope) false reason for how it might work. "Evolution", and the theory that attempts to explain it, are two separate, and very different things.

  • @Godusesamac Even if that were true (it's not, as evidenced by the entire fields of biology, chemistry, and genetics working how they do), it would not be an argument against evolution. Evolution does not require an increase in information (in whatever vague way you want to define that term), it simply requires change over time based on heredity. Such a claim, if true, MIGHT be an argument against specific examples of evolution that would go against that claim,but life on Earth isn't one of them

  • @Godusesamac The problem is, you choose to frame the "problem" around false definitions and 150 year old research. Update your search for knowledge to include modern science and maybe there would be something to talk about, but until then it's just not worth it. You've given no reasons to discount the current form of evolutionary theory, and actually given examples of how you DO believe evolution happens...you just refuse to label it as such. So I'm not sure what case you wish me to make...

  • @Godusesamac no it was not. it would only be ambiguous to someone who doesnt know how to distinguish between a scientific theory and a lack of belief in gods. the two are not related, but apparently you cant tell the difference.

  • GUAM you are being too polite to this person. Their original comment was a stupid ass remark as if they are keeping score as to whom is "winning" here on you tube. I suggest, ihmen, you go back to your partying and leave the conversation to the adults here because you do not have the slightest fucking clue what you are talking about. Rebuilding? What an IDIOT!!!!

  • @Godusesamac i did not suggest anything of the sort. i said the evolution supporters have a leg up on the creationists. evolution supporters are not all atheists. I myself am jewish and i support evolutionary theory. so do not assume that evolution vs creationism is synonymous with atheism vs theism.

  • @Godusesamac Mutation is NOT a loss of information...it's a CHANGE of information. You clearly have not looked into the concept of evolution in any meaningful way, and so I'm forced to bow out of this one sided conversation before I lose more brain cells than I already have. I highly suggest you update your arguments to at least something from the last 50 years of anti-evolutionary theory. You'd still be wrong, but at least you'd be using the up-to-date fallacies instead of stuff from the 1800's

  • @Godusesamac Darwin cited a lack of transitional forms 150 years ago, some of the more modern (read:within the last 70-130 years) research has been updated since then. I suggest expanding your personal library slightly if you haven't read anything newer than 100 years old in a field where new discoveries are being made on a DAILY basis. I'm sorry, but the very fact that you'd even make that statement makes me think you're not serious in any way about learning about reality.

  • @Godusesamac Evolution and speciesation are different things. Dog breeding is clearly evidence of change passed through heredity, which is pretty much the definition of evolution. Speciesation goes beyond that, where the change has become so great that the two species can no longer breed (to use one of several definitions of the term)...and HAS been shown to be the case for many types of birds/mammals (dogs not included, unless you include other canine species', which most biologists WOULD)

  • @Godusesamac "The only thing science has done is compared species via fossils, DNA, and other things and made comparisons." So all we've got is evidence in every scientific field...and your argument boils down to "but we can't live long enough to see it happen, therefore it isn't happening"... which isn't even true, as evidenced by things like bacteria, and even dog/bird/horse/fruit breeding, in which we CAN see "major changes".. What sort of evidence are we missing exactly?

  • @Godusesamac when i posted that comment jezuzfreek777 did not have over 10k subs. also that was still when venomfangx was gone, and no one at that time expected him to come back. but why do you bring up atheists? i said evolution supports, not atheists. i know christians who accept evolution and i know atheists who dont. the two are not related. and the creationists are still trying to rebuild, i havent seen an original creationism argument in years.

  • I get nervous about controversial topics like evolution. Here's what I have to say: The whole concept of evolution is fascinating, but sometimes i'm ambivolent about it. I would think that it really is the basis of mankind and sometimes I won't. But frankly I just don't know what side to choose. Speaking of mutations they're very real. My favorite genetic mutation that I learned about is the "delta 32" in the CCR5 protein which makes some people have resistance to the HIV virus

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  • You're awesome. n_n

  • Sir Francis Newport : to those alongside his deathbed “I know I am lost forever, oh that fire !oh the sufferable pangs of hell!” And there is many more like this. I pray for you and hope that you will realize that there is a just and almighty God before it is to late like these men.

  • @Rediahs There is one documented case of a women who was clinically dead for 45 minutes no brain activity or heartbeat. The moment she came back she asked her nurse to Go up to highst level of the hospital because there would be a shoe and she described the shoe sitting in the corner of the top of the building while she said she was ascending upward out of her body.The nurse went up crawled out of the window and was astounded that the shoe was there just like the describe how is that the brain

  • @hbbism Where is it documented?

  • It's interesting that you say something cannot come from nothing and yet you say that God has always existed? How is that possible, what about the universe? Couldn't it also have always existed? How exactly does adding God to the equation make things simpler whatsoever? The base of it is, adding God only complicates, not simplifies. People used God to explain things when they didn't know how they worked. Now we sort of know. And we know better than to say "God did it".

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  • @Rediahs Contrast this with those who believe evolutionism to be true. They simply say "time did it". God is eternal, has no beginning or end. Nothing existed before God. God is not bound by the constraints of time. The statement in the Bible "In the beginning,(time) God created the heavens, (space) and the earth (matter)" shows where time/space/matter came into being and God existed before all 3.

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  • up? Well we don’t but there are some cases that can be proven, research it.Like cases where when the person flat lined and had to brain activity they can tell the doctors exactly what they were sayng in the ER and what instruments they used. These are the only cases that can be proven, and most go on to describe their experience of life after death and what they saw.How is that not proof that there is a greater being

  • @hbbism Near death experiences are simply a result of our brain getting confused and sending conflicting signals. They aren't proof of God any more than drugs are.

  • Was sending signals and getting confused? This case was documented. There is no possible way she could have known .&Here is what some of the great known Atheists have said on their deathbeds and their last final words:

    Sir Thomas Scott” Until this moment I thought there was neither God nor hell now I know and feel that there are both and I am doomed to perdition, by the just judgment of the almighty.”

  • thermodynamics would state. A rock doesn't suddenly change from being a rock into say an axe head unless acted upon by something else.

    Also when you get into looking into NDE near death experiences and you research ones on people who are brain dead and not heartbeat for say an hour and they talk about there experience either a place described as heaven or a place describe as fire or darkness.But how do we know these people aren’t making it

  • to say the universe brought itself into existence, then that would be illogical since something that does not exist has no nature and with no nature, there are no attributes, and with no attributes, actions can’t be performed such as bringing itself into existence. universe has always existed, that doesn’t work either because that would mean the universe was infinitely old. If it is infinitely old then why hasn’t it run out of useable energy by now as the 2nd law of

  • That created it .The forces of gravity are also set to precise measurements. The force of gravity is large. Take a ruler that stretched across the entire universe and was broken down into inches stretching billions of light years. But it happens to be set at just the right spot. If you moved it by one inch catastrophic consequences would happen, intelligent life would be impossible in the universe if you moved it one inch. That is how finely tuned it is. Is that an accident?

  • Whatever begins has a cause. Something cannot come from nothing. Noone created God he is ,was and always will be. I jus said 10 components for 10 components the chance is 1 in 3 million 628 thousand 800 that is just 10 a human being is made up 13 billion components this is impossible. If it is a 1 in 3 million chance for 10.Not only how was humans evolve, but how did the universe evolve? Did it just happen to be chance too? The universe is so complex that there had to be an intelligent being

  • Evolution is basically based on chance.When you get into the study of evolution you find the chance of the components combining correctly.take 10 components having to combine correctly the chance is 1 in 3 million 628 thousand 800 for 10 components to combine correctly 1 chance in 3 and a half million attempts.It it not more rational to understand that we was created by a greater being?

  • @hbbism The problem is that being created by a greater being doesn't solve the problem - where did the greater being come from? I think it's less probable that an amazing omnipotent, omniscient being exists than for some amino acids to combine in an interesting way.

    An interesting thought: We are only here because of chance. But we never knew of the millions and billions of failed "chances". We only know of the one that worked. So it doesn't matter how unlikely it is - there being any

  • chance at all means that it has to have happened. It's not like we would have known if it had failed. Since we are here, the chances worked.

    It's like saying that because winning the lottery is so rare, nobody wins the lottery. Well, somebody does. The chance of SOMEBODY winning the lottery is (theoretically) 1 (or 100%). Similarly, the chance of SOME SORT OF LIFE having evolved is 100%. That 100% is us, because we wouldn't know if we weren't.

  • probability does a cell appear from non living matter and turn into a human being composed of thirteen billion components, each component having an encyclopedia of DNA information about the individual body? Even if given one hundred years, one million years or one billion years, it makes no difference.

  • It is irrational to believe that we evolved from one cell.It is rational to believe that we were made by a greater being heres why.. For a living cell to appear, certain conditions must be present. Furthermore, many components must combine in such a specific manner that we are able to calculate the probability of this occurrence. One might add that even if it were possible for this to occur, how would this cell know how to grow, let alone how to replicate By what peculiar law of

  • here on youtube the evolution supporters pretty much won the war. few years ago we had a bunch of creationists, lead by their leader venomfangx. back then they were a real threat with subscribers in the hundreds of thousands. thunderf00t and others battled these creationists until their leader venomfangx was defeated. today we have some remaining creationists trying to rebuild from the ruins. none of them have more than 10k subs though.

  • Couldn't agree with ya more. Evolution is an indisputable fact. "Evolution" is just the label we give the process of the changes that living things go through from generation to generation. The "theory" of evolution(by natural selection) is the theory that attempts to explain that process...and does so EXTREMELY well.

  • People take the word "theory" too lightly or think of it as a guess when it IS practically a proven fact, or at least the most proven one we have currently. The main problem with this the evolution theory is religious belief. I have spoken to people who believe profusely in Jesus and God and they seemed to think that evolution was proved wrong somehow.

  • The Theory of Evolution is the only currently accepted scientific theory for the diversity and history of life. I think that the evidence overwhelmingly supports it, and that (so far) the more evidence scientists find, the stronger the theory is.

    In science "Theory" doesn't mean "guess" or "hypothesis". The Theory of Evolution is as well supported as Atomic Theory or Cell Theory, and MORE supported than the Theory of Gravity.

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