Velvet Cacoon - Avalon Polo

[ManWalkingStraight]

one word psychedelic

[Angloth]

they are capable of producing much better material then the stuff they ripped off.. dont understand why they ruined their reputation so much, this stuff is amazing..

[RedGramophone]

@Angloth

They didn't ripped off others material...it was their material. The ecofacist thing, the cult, the whole usual bullshit in BM was all set up. They said in an interview that they wanted to make fun of the scene. Although they said the music was real and made with passion.

To me black metal is a sound, a force. Fucking good metal. Just like VC.

[SemperEAS7]

2:23 'Ohhk...uhahukk' xD

[IAmNutria]

I live close to where these guys formed!

[themarchofmarch]

The Best Song......

Velvet Cacoon / Clair Cassis are awesome..!!!!

[ZebraMu]

When Eno goes evil

[Ravaskeith]

The only stolen albums were their shoegaze albums, none of their black metal albums are stolen.

[trebajunt332]

LOL to the varg neo nazi comment

[eisendorn]

no words for this masterpiece!!

deep listening into black metal!!PERFECT!!PERFECT!!

[theatarijaguar]

How is this music?

[Watchmaker312]

@theatarijaguar How is this not music?

[JordanECMusic]

@theatarijaguar seems like you dont study music. You probably dont even know who devin townsend or gene hoglan is?

[PsionikMushroom]

@werdd909the2nd Dextronaut? What about Genevieve?

As lame as it sounds, I actually really like what I've heard from this album. But I don't want to get fooled into buying plagiarized material.

[Possesssed666]

Fucking drug-craved, stealing frauds

[cardboarddalek]

i hate people who hate cacoon and xasthur and chalice etc, i mean theyre a fairly small subdivision of black metal so theyre not gonna give people the wrong impression of black metal anyway, and theyre equally true and talented and evil

[marloweowsley]

@cardboarddalek haha "chalice"-- everyone i know calls it "lurker"... :|

[cardboarddalek]

@marloweowsley Oh well? lol

[marloweowsley]

@cardboarddalek Haha, yeah. I suppose regardless of what you call it, you have impeccable taste. lol

[cardboarddalek]

@marloweowsley Well thank you! I'm sure you do too

[PsionikMushroom]

Anyone know which of their albums were actually stolen from other people? The workding on Encyclopedia Metallum is unclear as to whether either that early album or all of their albums were stolen.

[johncboobs123]

@PsionikMushroom i dont think it was any of the released albums that were ripped off, they actually uploaded an album of supposedly new material onto their website and their myspace page, once the scam was revealed they removed it from myapace and completely shut down their own website... crazy bastards. nothing like a bit of contreversy to get people talking. shame their latest album is so poor...

[LifeOfDelusion]

This was a great listen on DXM :)

[c4m2d3]

Anyone else super fucking excited about the Clair Cassis debut?

[ShadicPT]

Me.

[triflind]

according to encyclopedia Metallum the music is all stolen

[c4m2d3]

@ triflind: The music is stolen from..... ? If so, wouldn't there be a lawsuit pending?

[alifeofarcticsounds]

the main guy in the band admitted that the first albums he claimed to have made don't even exist and that one or two of their albums are entirely stolen. i don't know which ones. i don't think this album is stolen.

[cardboarddalek]

@triflind not all just quite a bit

[TomasuSA]

@c4m2d3

I for one am :D

[GinGerKidZz]

whos making all that crappy noice?

sounds like my vakumcleaner..

[Bpet18]

@GinGerKidZz if my vacuum cleaner could play drums it would sound just like this

[lacruzdelachela]

-Chingona banda, esta de poca madre!!! Bien!!!!

[joemj413]

This shit is so bad, amazing people fell for their hype back in the day.

[cardboarddalek]

shhh trying to listen

[ohBlackMetal]

man im super high right now too

[Connroy17]

im toooo high to even care about what u guys are arguing about

[xREX92x]

@Connroy17

YOU READ MY MIND WHAT A TRIP lols

haha

[alexthedub]

Varg rules.

[cardboarddalek]

true but irrelevant

[alexthedub]

I mean that he rules because he gave birth to such music

[cardboarddalek]

oh right as in he inspired Cacoon and such?

[alexthedub]

exactly

[cardboarddalek]

ok yeah in that sense he's awesome, i thought you were just randomly stating that xD

[drukqsi]

Hey I didn't know this was a Burzum video! That would explain why everyone's talking about him!

[seaofseeof]

Just because Varg believes in racial segregation/superiority doesn't make him a neo-Nazi, I mean, it makes him an idiot, but not a neo-Nazi (I guess they're related?). White supremacy and antisemitism are only a part of national socialism and part of what separates NS from fascism, but 'white supremacy' and 'Nazism' are not synonymous.

[SiT1986]

@seaofseeof National Socialism stands for Nazism. It's a shorter way of saying it. And Nazism IS a form of fascism. Varg is a Neo-Nazi, as well but, has never afflicted them into his music. It's just during the time other bands were born he made a statement which lead them to becoming Nazis, as well.

[james163163]

@SiT1986 varg is not a neo nazi lol.

[philinthesilence]

varg wasnt nsbm until he got out of jail.

[alexthedub]

he never was and never will be NSBM.

[AstralMelancholy]

This Is Fucking Great!

[NecroticGrace]

Great video!

[triumphelf]

Check out, Morrigan-Roaring Warlike and Victious.

[DarkRoland666]

Great Video with great Song from one of the best Black Metal Bands of the World!

[watgoat]

oooooooo..... i dont have words to say.....this is so beatiful..... i thing that the black metal its more thtas music its more more more....

[BERLINCLUBKIDS]

nice words!

[exclipse2000]

Make no mistake; this is an ambient record, it just happens to be played in a black metal style. The drone and Atmosphere achived here is magnificent

[sorrystateout]

nice vocals,lol

[fireninjaxxx]

YAY COUGH SYRUP!!!!1!111!!11111111111111­one!!!!!111111111

[SigilOfSauron]

im guessing the music video was based off of dunkelheit lol. great job otherwise 5 stars.

[Aldelirium]

What kind of retard enjoys this crap?

[HatesNewAge]

Most of youtube blows fagknees. :p Velvet Cacoon rules !

[DavidSellCR]

utopic

[zts99]

awesome

[MiliganAjonegro]

Velvet Cacoon rules, man! One of the things I like about them is that they defy all the satanic aesthetic, you don't really need that to have a metal band.

[Thosis]

Yes, you don't need that to have a metal band, but if you label yourself "(ambient) black metal", then satanic aesthetics are necessary.

In my opinion, this is not an awesome song, but it has some good things and isn't overall a bad song.

[seaofseeof]

Most of the original second wave only claimed satanism for shock value, by admittance, and have since denounced it as counter-Christianity. It's the music that matters, not what the musician thinks. Most musicians are douche bags anyway.

[Thosis]

I know this.

[rapethenun]

Ambient music has nothing to do with satanism, and Black Metal doesn't have to be satanic at all. Look at all the bands that don't cover religion at all, or are pagan, Norse, etc.

[Thosis]

"Ambient music has nothing to do with satanism"

I know this.

"Black Metal doesn't have to be satanic at all"

In order to be BLACK metal, you'll have to be satanic. There's nothing you or anyone else can do about it.

Of course there zillions of bands that sound like black metal, but say they have nothing to do with Satan or satanism. But I think that even in these cases Satan has more than anything to do with them.

[rapethenun]

Dude the whole satanism thing is second wave shenanigans for shock value.

[Thosis]

Actually it was the first wave (search for example: Venom!) which used satanism for shock value. Still, I refuse to think/believe, that there wasn't any kind of "satanist styrken" behind them and their actions, when they made "music for Satan".

Early Venom records just sounds and feels so revolutionary, evil and satanic, that it can't be just "people who like to play music loud" behind it. It requires true mentality to accomplish such dark art.

[seaofseeof]

The only thing we get out of you is some sort of circular reasoning. If hip-hop sounds the way it does because of the production and vocal delivery, if powerviolence sounds the way it does because of the slow/fast dynamics and if electro is characterized by the funk, hip-hop and Kraftwerk influences, we're not going to make any special exceptions for black metal. It's the sound, not what some asshole in his mom's basement (aka the black metal musician) is convinced of. Period.

[Thosis]

These are your own conclusions, not the way everyone else sees music/black metal, and you know it. Still you say "...we're not going to make any special exceptions for black metal" though my feelings towards black metal oppose this.

Of course we do exceptions, especially when there are things we love and hate on the scale.

Black metal isn't just something "just", it is (also) something much more.

[seaofseeof]

Mine are rational conclusions. I don't get it, so many people in black metal oppose religion but they treat metal as some sort of religious entity that they worship which they consider universally special and thus immune from logic and objectivity (just like a lot of religious zealots think that _their_ religion deserves special treatment). Just because you 'love' it (I love bm too) doesn't make it universally special. That's a very egocentric and immature way of viewing things.

[Thosis]

I don't treat metal in general as a sort of religious entity nor black metal. Most metal music is just shit. But black metal is something more; it's a channel of religious ecstasy for me.

I've no problems with being religious and believing things. I believe in Satan (archetype). Also, I'm not encouraging people to give black metal a special treatment. I do it myself and am not searching for your approval.

You're blind to your own subjectiveness. That's the main problem of being objective.

[seaofseeof]

"I don't treat metal in general as some sort of religious entity nor black metal ... .. black metal is something more; it's a channel of religious ecstasy for me". That's a contradiction and by saying that black metal isn't black metal without some underlying ideology and actively disagreeing with people who say otherwise and stating why they're wrong, you're projecting your 'special treatment' onto others and 'reality'.

[Thosis]

You really simplify these things too much. If you don't "get" something, then you should just leave it to the others or shut up.

The effect of black metal is like that, because something great and strong lies beneath the surface that you can't reach or understand, so you just simplify it, by saying "it's just music" and "it's the same as every other religion, why why why".

I don't know when you got into black metal, but you know nothing about it.

[Angloth]

Well, if you are a part of one religion, then you exclude all others. Naturaly people who view black metal as a religion, exclude all the other religions. Wether it is immature or not i am not certain, but black metal has had the effect on people just as strong as christianity has. I also believe that alot of the black metal fanbase is much more devoted to black metal.

[seaofseeof]

How can someone who criticizes religion as a whole (the majority of the black metal fanbase) treat black metal as a religion? Why does it matter if it;s called "religion" when the effects of something called "black metal" are the same? Sounds like hypocrisy to me.

[Angloth]

Black metal does not critize religion for religion itself, but rather for the weak mentality of monotheistic religions. Very many embrace the pagan religions of old.

Therefore to call black metal anti-religious is actually kind of wrong when its more like anti-monotheistic-religious. Strictly anti-religion is actually more of an earlier death-metal thing. Imolation, Death, etc etc

[Thosis]

If you want to continue this, please do that by (private) messaging, I'd be happy to discuss about this without these limitations (500 characters).

[DisembowelMe]

You have yet to explain WHY black metal has to be satanic.

What else do Burzum, Immortal or Velvet Cacoon play than black metal?

[Thosis]

"No single book were behelden by me,

Oh, no question I cannot do answer,

Only one single lamp do show me this way,

And that is the Eye of Satan."

[DisembowelMe]

Okay, uh.. I don't think you misunderstood me, I asked for _proof_.

[Thosis]

No you didn't. You asked me to explain, "why, oh why can't I understand anything?".

[DisembowelMe]

Hahahah, what the tits.

That's some subtle trolling you got there, gotta give you that.

[Thosis]

Yes.

[76sin]

because thats what black metal is

go listen to manowar and get drunk if you don't like it

and by the way burzum and immortal are not satanic

and i almost wouldn't consider either of them black metal

[DisembowelMe]

"because thats what black metal is."

Great reasoning there, chump.

Your comment is especially ironic considering I spent $160 worth of black metal just yesterday.

[76sin]

you spent black metal

i hope English is your second language

and what's your point?

[DisembowelMe]

English is my second language actually. And yeah, silly mistake. "I spent $160 on black metal just yesterday"*

My point is that I actually like black metal, as opposed to what you seem to think.

What would you consider Immortal and Burzum if not black metal?

[76sin]

ah, sorry for the sarcasm then

there is nothing i dislike more than people who can hardly form coherent sentences in their native language i consider immortal to be more of a normal metal band with corpse paint, burzum i consider folk music because of the lyrics

black metal to me deals primarily with satanism

look on my channel

[DisembowelMe]

Hehe okay, but "normal metal" isn't really a genre, and burzum doesn't have an ounce of folk in it. (except perhaps the ambient records of course). If we are to use lyrics to categorize, Cannibal Corpse and Dying Fetus wouldn't even belong to the same genre, which of course, is bullshit.

[76sin]

i know

in my opinion though black metal IS one of the few genres that are more categorized by the lyrical content

look up "gloomy grim - blood" and compare that to nattefrost, the two sounds don't sound anything like eachother

and then bands like sterbend and silencer compared to bands like xasthur and Arkha Sva

i also think cannibal corpse and dying fetus sound very similar

[DisembowelMe]

Why should black metal be more categorized by it's lyrical contents rather than the music?

Plus, calling Burzum folk music still makes zero sense. Black metal is the only fitting genre for this sort of music.

[johnm8h]

burzum is not fucking folk!!! burzum is pagan heathenist and NS bm idiot!...fucking posers!!!! and immortal is just over produced "pagan/battle bm"...

satanic warmaster is above all!!!

[SverdIFjell]

Burzum is not NSBM he is Black/Ambient Metal.

[johnm8h]

SverdIFjell actually burzum is nsbm/pagan heathenist...and varg is a nazi idiot! don't talk to m about what's what! 88!

[SverdIFjell]

Actually, no Burzum is not NSBM, do you see his lyrics stating anything about any of that fucking NSBM shit? No, dont tell me whats what if you dont know anything about it in the first place. Yes, I know Varg had National Socialist views, but he grew out of that, moron, you should read up on your Black Metal shit before you go around acting like an idiot.

[johnm8h]

SverdIFjell actually varg still believes in it idiot fuckin poser!!! and yes his music is nsbm...idiots like you can't read between lines fucker! many other pagan bands that don't right openly about ns are in fact ns idiot like drowning the light darkthrone and satanic warmaster tho they refuse any comment....even taake is ns tho they deny it as well! you know SHIT! AND YES burzums my journey to the stars hints at this ns belief fag! "war between the races a goal is reached chaos hate"

[SverdIFjell]

Yeah, okay, you beleive what you want, call me what you want, or whatever the fuck you immature posers do. Honestly i dont give a fuck about your OPINION, i beleive my FACTS.

[AryanJihad]

darkthrone isn't nsbm, have you ever even met fenriz

also varg didn't really get into odalism until he was a couple years into prison.

[TyrantGoat]

@johnm8h:

No. Vargs only interest in NS is its acceptance of paganism. He even said its ridiculous he started the wave of NSBM. I personally don't care either way. You fucking idiots have to go around spreading rumors. Almost as bad as the group of ignorant shits that think he is a satanist. Why don't you all stop gossiping like little old church women and read his fucking interviews and website. Ugh... goddamn...

[johnm8h]

hey TyrantGoat(ess) i never said he was a fuckin satanist !

i been into fucking black metal since i was 10 now 30! when everyone else was into fuckin nigger music ! don't come at me like you know who i am! i know what burzum music is! as far as varg interviews go everyone says things in the moment! so fuck you! varg also said guitar was nigger music and he would not do black metal again, yet he is doing black metal soon again, so people sometimes just say shit in the moment fag! 88!

[TyrantGoat]

I never said you said that. I SAID your NSBM comment is ALMOST AS BAD as that. Read.

I'm pretty sure stating ones political beliefs is not a "in the moment" situation.

Again. No. His reason for not wanting to make black metal anymore is because there is so much of it. He even said that there are Burzum inspired bands that make better music than him.

I dont know where you are getting your information but you need to look elsewhere.

[seaofseeof]

Fenriz was rather excited about getting a picture taken with Katon from Hirax.

Hell who can blame him, Katon fucking rules. Fuck yeah, Hirax.

[seaofseeof]

Basically, what I'm saying is, stop pulling shit out of your ass.

[VikingLord13]

yup, or mental illness and nature, not all is satanic, even tho i like that too.

[xSynergy]

this makes me want to dissolve my conciousness into dusk. music for mescalyn?

[frozendarknessreyes]

black metal should sound awesome .... but instead i cant hear it or the guy say anything

[ToxiDude]

dude, that guy is just grownling and howling xD

and its better than words..

[Stormrider444]

love the monotonic, mesmerizing beat in his music

[NazareneDecomposing]

velvet blackcoon me la pela

black hardcore blows

[fireninjaxxx]

That was one of the best things i have ever seen.

[JSzwedo]

Very good.

[123kddd]

Where is this band ? it is  said they are not exist ??

[kittykatzombie]

Bravo! bravisimo!

This is perfect.

[severetorture]

fuck.

[lovelyshadeofred]

that's a great idea.

[chthonic1666]

I just love falling into a trance listening to this.

[hungh0rse]

4! 24! 13!

[sgtmcguckin2]

Yeah I dont a single gay person who likes velvet cacoon. But velvet cacoon are still great.

[Skvl3]

Velvet Cacoon <3

[BPMFronT]

this is so, so , so , damn! i dont have the right words, perfect track, perfect video .

thanks and many thanks again.

Hailz!!!

[fersalrod77]

excelente banda!!!!

[locusamoris]

i love this song

thanks for the video (:

[rafneves]

I really love the video..

thanks

[suicidepark]

excellent

[carhlote]

dünyanın tek ve gerçek black metal grubu.....

[BPMFronT]

+1! excellent!

[sgtmcguckin2]

This was beautiful! I really do like ambient black metal!

[Vinteraand]

Played by a Diesel-harp...

[KrystalMeth]

That's not actually true.

[Phthgn]

hm, mr blackmetalwings, maybe consider moving the camera 'under the water' for the next vc video? this is the basic concept of the band, anyway. I liked the first part of the video but the second was far too minimalistic and lofi, I think.

[kamikazekrieg]

reminded me of burzum's dunkelheit vid. my velvet cacoon video idea is this: as the song fades in, an image of a newly lit cigarette comes into view out of a blur effect, as the song goes, the cigarette just sits there burning away, and when the song is finally over and fading out, the cigarette burns out and the video slowly fades into black. the cigarette should be a sampoerna or a djarum black.

take my idea if you like, taking credit for things is for asses.

[PR0CY0N]

kill yourself.

[kamikazekrieg]

anyone else think this is a cheap ripp off of the classic burzum music video for dunkelheit?

can anyone reason why vc would allow this? maybe next a cohosted show between lala and sandon?

[Powelloseven]

Nicely done blackmetalwings ;) I enjoyed it as well! You should do another one, indeed, for Laudanum, perhaps?

[ArfnOmega]

Gorgeous! Just when I check to see if VC's site is back up too. You keep on plugging away at that video arty and make VC a seeing thing.

[Powelloseven]

Is this official?

[blackmetalwings]

I made this for Full Moon Productions, you can also check it out on my page and on Full Moon's homepage. Velvet Cacoon enjoyed this and asked me to do another one for them

[Sadtreesong]

My favourite Velvet Cacoon track.