Oh, shut-up liar Galloway!Palestine was not "somebody else's country" it was no mans desert land,(read Mark Twains visit to Palestine)it was conquered by some empires,but always was is and will be the Jewish ancient homeland!The reason it was called Palestine is because when the Greeks conquered the region,they called it "Provinkia Palestina".This ignorant Galloway is distorting history! I just came from Spain and read it's Jews and Muslims history in Spain very thoroughly.Again he is a LIAR!
(finkako = fuck up ) ( 8 = mouth pussy ) ( 6 = sex ) shut up u nasty dog yusuf chambers wy u send messege like this to george gollaway . now my messege wat heppen in palestine about 7 decete wat is the justice for israel . justice for israel is israel has to be out of map .
Keep on your nasty words, or the curse will be on you!!! and a dog ,by the way, is the sweetest pet, he is called man's best friend, because he is much better than people like you!
First,watch your dirty mouth,second,what happened in Israel 7 decades ago is pure justice!!! Israel is
the ancient home of the Jewish people for 4,000 yeas always was, is and will be(way before there was bloody Islam)!before Muhammad the rapist and pedophile,Muslims were pedophile.Islam should be erased from the face of the earth,we are too nice to Muslims,enough,it is time that the western world understand what is Islam and how much chaos and bloodshed it brings to our world!!!
im actually watchin your videos,just to learn what the truth is about the palestinian area,jews,war and the current political establishments.keep up the good work mate-nice one
Who is the one you watch his videos? this is not the way to learn anything,especially not the truth,the Jews,war or the current political establishment". That is the worst way, because you hear only one side of an opinion of one person! The way to learn is the Encyclopedia,fair and not bias newspapers,news on tv,or listen to honest
courageous politicians (like Stefen Harper,Prime Minister of Canada),or debates and interviews,read a lot and research,than you can form a fair opinion!
If anyone listen to Galloway,he will learn a distortion of the truth!This guy is either so ignorant a liar or has some agenda behind it! He is full of hatred toward Israel,so he is producing fictions!
People like him instigate hatred and that would lead to confusion,hate and war!
You and others should get their knowledge from real history books and the encyclopedia if you want the truth and not fiction! otherwise you will stay ignorant and make a comment like the one you made!
@011jaffa I do not support instigating hatred or war on anyone. And of course Mr. Galloway has an agenda – making Israelis realize that they can not live in a perpetual war with their fellow men. That idea is very honest, and the only path to stability in the region.
There will never be peace in the Middle East as long as Muslim and Jew fanatics brainwash their children with religion and hatred towards their neighbors. Don't shoot the messenger.
Thanks for your honesty,but your facts are not based on knowledge,It is true,there never will be peace if the Muslims brainwash their children with religious fanatics,but,I grew-up in Israel,and I served in the IDF,I raised children,I never heard anyone raise their children with hate,on the contrary,Israel has 1.5 million Muslims,and we lived side by side as equals,they have an Israeli citizenship,get state of the art medicine and education,they live in beautiful homes and democracy
I respect your honesty that there will never be peace in the Middle East as long as Israel has fanatic Muslims as it's neighbors!for us Israeli Jews it is very unfortunate,but better live in our homeland so we can defend ourselves,than in any other country in which we can't fight for ourselves!In every generation comes a new Hitler or Torquemada,and Now Ahmedinijaad! But,TG Israel has the IDF to defend itself!There is a saying in Israel
Israel does not "brainwash"their children to hate(there are some bad seeds in every society)the proof is that 1.5 million Israeli Muslims live in Harmony along with Israelis.Israel has workshops to bring Arab and Jewish kids together! but,children are not stupid,many of their dads died or wounded in the wars,and many died or wounded by suicide bombers,or children in the north and south born and grow-up all their lives in shelters,so what do you expect?should they love their enemy?
Yes,you are right,we should all live in peace,but here comes reality and bends all the rules!You stretch your hand for peace and the hand is cut off by your enemies,so what can you do?you hand them your other,than your legs,they will amputate all of your limbs,Rather than make peace with you!How can you "sit to the table" with people who don't want to make concessions?who do not agree to recognize Israel's right to exist?they want it all and to "dump Israelis into the sea"they say!
I am absolutely not hateful I understand that there are people who are suffering on the other side and I fill for
them,but it is not Israel's fault,it is their terrorist regimes!Yes,it is very nice,I accept my fellow man,but do they accept me?absolutely not! they want to(I quote)"dump all Israelis to the sea"! Israels Defense minister offered them an unbelievable gesture of the return to all 67 borders including east Jerusalem..but,Arafat refused!he wanted it all. all of Israel!!!
@finkako86 Living in peace with Hamas thugs hellbent on destroying you? Kinda impossible. And it's quite pathetic this communist useful idiot Galloway is such a troll who misees no opportunity to support Europe's enemies.
3. George Galloway said that Muslims always lived in peace and protected the Jews, i gave an example that in1929, prior to any declaration of Israel, Muslims massacred Jews at Hebron.
Tomorrow Israel will release 1027 Terrorists who participated on hundreds of massacres against Israeli civilians.
You gave only one example for a tragic event during the Israeli Independence war that by the way Arab countries started and attacked new born Israel (but still defeated).
What George Galloway sase is all garbage!!! he was declared as "Persona non Grata" in many countries and he is not allowed to enter them! so he is not the guy you should listen or learn from!!!
Well-said,but not enough in August 1929 there was a whole week of Jews massacres though out Palestine(not only Hebron)in Safed,in Jerusalem,Haifa and more, Muslims massacred 133 Jews and wounded 339! The Mufti of Jerusalem Hajj Amin al Husseini(who was Yasser Arafat's uncle) wanted to "finish the job",he went to Hitler and asked him to help annihilate all the Jews of Palestine(watch on you tube documentary) and together he and Hitler
Dude, have you ever considered the size of Israel? Israel is as small as Rhode Island, and surrounded by Islamic countries 640 times the size of Israel, who own most of the worlds oil, and have one goal: kill everybody who is not muslim. By the way, Israel is the only democratic country over there, and the most multiculturel country in the world. Thats right, many muslims live in Israel side by side with jews. Something that could not happen in Islamic countries!
@econochannel Did you not just hear George? Muslims, Christians and Jews were living side by side for centuries upon centuries in Palestine and also in the muslim world. In Israel Palestinians are treateted as dogs like second-class citizens they can't vote, can't marry a Jew, serached if they want to go to the mosque to pray etc. what kind of life is that? Never mind how the Israeli's are killing off the Palestinians in Gaza.
1. Palestine was a geographical region in the Middle East but never a country.
This area was indeed home for many people for centuries but those people never called "Palestinians".
those people were Muslim Bedouins that wandered in the Middle East, Jews that remained for centuries in their settlements and more people and tribes that migrated on and off in this area.
2. the land has a history of changing caliphates, not Palestinian.
And what about the massacres on all Palestinian 133 slaughtered, kids in front of their parent, amputations of limbs and burning at the stake? the Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin al Husseini(Arafat's uncle) didn't have enough, he wanted to annihilate all the Jews,met with Hitler for the "final solution of the Jews of Palestine (you can watch the documentaries on you tube) and together they formed the Muslim Nazi unit, that thanks God was too late it was to wards the end of WW2!
For you intelligence;Always was a Jewish presence in Palestine(the ancient Greeks who conquered the area at the time named it"Palestina Provinkia")province of Palestine.The Brits never"gave"Palestine to the Jews,the UN members voted for it,but even in 1920 San-Remo resolution conference the countries involved signed a document"Palestine belongs to the Jews"watch on you tube:San Remo resolution,Palestine belongs to the Jews.Shame it was too late to save Jews from Hitler`s claws
@011jaffa 1. Brits did give a few Zionist, atheist Jews a state in Palestine (check Balfour agreement). 2. They were also considering places such as Madagascar to set up state but they chose Palestine. 3. The Jews were never expelled from Palestine 4. The Zionist Jews have taken more land then they were given- they illegally occupy the west bank and east Juresalem. 3. Why must you always have to bring up Hitler to get the sympathy vote? The Oppressed can turn into oppressors perfect ex. Israel
Actually,I think you should go back to the history books:1.Brits did not give "a few Atheist Jews"Palestine,actually the Brits screwed-up the Jews 1/3 of what has been signed in the San-Remo agreement (all the west bank and Jordan)! 2.Bull..only Herzl brought Madagascar as an option which was immediately removed (the Jews wanted their ancient homelands)! 3.Not true,actually they have been given much more land (Lord Balfour signed on it) and you should check it!even on you tube
Now about the bastard SOB Hitler! I did not bring him-up to get sympathy, I merely said that Hajj Amin al Husseini
was in cahoots with him they made a plan to annihilate all the Jews of Palestine,and they formed an Arab-German
unit,ready to go to Palestine!but luckily for the Jews, the allies "finished Hitler"and the 3rd Reich so the plan did not go through! I never bring the Murderer Satan Hitler (who massacred most of my family) for sympathy,it will never bring them back!
@011jaffa Yeah, yeah all I'm saying is that Jews seem to forget the Holocaust happened in EUROPE. Ever since the state of Isreal its all this: Jews vs. Muslims bullshit. Considering the small population of the Jews and its centuries of bad treatment in Western countries Jews it seems to me muslims were your greatest allies till the state of Isreal.
Listen well:if you want to change history and make a fictitious one based on you vivid imagination,you are welcome,but facts are fact!I believe in encyclopedia and documentaries as proof of real history,but about the Muslims,it is a fact that Hajj Amin al Husseini did order his people to massacre the Jews,and it is a fact that there was a Muslim unit in the German Reich,their intent was to annihilate Jew of Palestine!Today there are 1.5Mil Muslims equal to it's Jewish ones!
Why is that "Brits did give a few Zionist atheist"?why atheists?there are religious Zionists and there are Christian Zionists.Why"a few"? the idea of Madagascar came-up in the Jewish conference(but was dismissed) and not by the Brits!No,the Jews actually "took"less than the land which was granted to them,actually,the border of the land was all the way from the Mediterranean sea to the Jordan river(which included all the Jewish holy ancestry places,all in the West-Bank)legally!
@011jaffa It may be legal in your mind but according to INTERNATIONAL LAW the west bank is occupied Palestinian teritory and therefore the Jewish settlers are ILLEGAL.
I believe that the moment has come whereby both sides, Israel and the occupied territories, put to one side the blood shed that has transfused and engulfed the holy land in the most bottomless of pits. What is now needed, above all other things, is a purposeful and meaningful leadership steered by those at the helm. The stewardship is now in the hands of those who it seems have already made up their minds. May the heavens grant the suffering people of this world a quick end and eternal peace.
and you make the males of banu qurayza look so innocent! They were punished for their crimes after they broke the pact with the Muslims and allied with the enemy who was to come and wipe the Muslims out, men, women and children. The jews of banu qurayza were punished according to their own book of Deuteronomy 20: 12-14.
The prophet even gave them the choice to pick their own judge, and they picked Saad Muaz, who was a convert to Islam from Judaism.
and you make the males of banu qurayza look so innocent! They were punished for their crimes after they broke the pact with the Muslims and allied with the enemy who was to come and wipe the Muslims out, men, women and children. The jews of banu qurayza were punished according to their own book of Deuteronomy 20: 12-14.
The prophet even gave them the choice to pick their own judge, and they picked Saad Muaz, who was a convert to Islam from Judaism.
Generalizing an entire population of people over the acts of a minority is pure shameful.
You have clearly fallen for the propaganda you see on TV.
These so called terrorists raid small villages and force husbands to kill themselves in order to save their families from forced rape and murder. I don't understand why you justify your hate for over 2 billion people over the acts of 300 or so politically influenced figures portrayed on your television screen.
Again, the British did not "give" Palestine to the Jews(watch on you tube; THE SAN REMO CONFERENCE,and read(or watch on you tube)the UN vote for the return of the Jews to their ancient homeland!(Galloway is a liar, and was declared as a "PERSONA NON GRATA`in many countries(not Muslims,obviously)he befriended all the Arab dictators,like Assad, Qaddafi, and terrorists leaders like Hamas and Hezbollah..in WW2 Hajj Amin l Husseini met with Hitler to Annihilate all the Jews of Palestine!
He could not answer the questions because he sound very young,and Galloway is very dominating and damn aggressive! He is Mr.Know-it-all...let me tell you Galloway is a demagogue who speaks to the ignorant! He can't fool the intelligent people! And about the fact that Israel cannot fight a perpetual war with the Arabs is a statement that everyone sase,and not honesty.I have news to you,Israel is fighting a war of no choice,and it will fight as long as it needs in order to survive!
oh bullshit. It was nothing more than desert land. worthless, no buildings, no businesses, no homes just a few goat herders! Britain was doing something good and moral! Britain was trying to help a Race of people to Survive. Muslims are NEVER innocent. This guy is so full of shit! Even America's First WAR was against ISLAMIC MUSLIMS!
Generalizing an entire population of people over the acts of a minority is pure shameful.
You have clearly fallen for the propaganda you see on TV.
These so called terrorists raid small villages and force husbands to kill themselves in order to save their families from forced rape and murder. I don't understand why you justify your hate for over 2 billion people over the acts of 300 or so politically influenced figures portrayed on your television screen.
WHY ARE PALESTINIANS EVEN PAYING FOR THE HOLOCAUST!!! THE WORLD IS BLINDED BECAUSE OF THE MEDIA. ZIONISTS ARE REDOING THE HOLOCAUST IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES! THE DAY IS COMING SOON ! LONG LIVE PALESTINE
Blah blah blah George’s highly developed imagination is mixed up with a minute amount of truth! …Regected even by the p.c Arab loving BBC, This person is a insignificant little prick, really a NOTHING in the British political map, admired by the Jihadist Muslims and hated by most real British persons. Even despised by his own Scottish people who feel he sold his soul to the Muslim devils.
george galloway u absolute champion everything he said is 100% correct the muslims protected the jews when they left spain because the jews were worried that they were going to get persecuted all over again, so the muslims protected them from that. wow george ur an awesome history teacher
@Seinisonacsi the brits had only conquered it a few months ago, and as george says at around 0:50, Britain didn't have the right to displace the indigenous population for a population of people who weren't even really Britishers.
@johnykalykaba Archaeological findings? try recent history. the place you call Israel had been part of the Ottoman Empire up to the 1940's. the Brit's conquered Ottoman Turkey, and then named the region Palestine and set up a separate Jewish state called Israel, which took over most of Palestine. so now the Israelites say, there was not Palestine befo Israel--- it was there dumbasses you just gave it a new name
@011jaffa back to ancient history. i'm talking about RECENT history, the last few centuries to be precise. the land that Israel now claims belonged to the Ottoman Turkish empire, the reason there were Arabs living there. the name of Palestine only emerged after the British broke up the old ottoman empire. it didn't matter to the Arabs already living in the region, it was out of their hands. they went to sleep in the one country and woke up in another one, never having moved an inch.
Excuse me?Israel "belonged"to the Ottomans?what a bunch of crock! Why do you think that it belongs to the Ottomans?The Greek Empire was ruling Israel for a long time and the Roman Empire ruled Israel for a long
time,so why the Ottomans?they were conquered by the British,so why Ottomans?why are they different than
any other rulers?First, the Ottoman Empire does not exist anymore,and the word Palestine was named by the Greeks!even the Turks don't claim Israel to belong to Ottomans!
@011jaffa i didn't say it belonged to the Ottomans. it belonged to the people already living there, whatever you call them. the Turks don't ask for it cuz they got their own country. the Ottoman empire comprised both turks and arabs, and it's specifically the arabs who lived in the Israeli region before it's creation that are fighting for it.
"It belonged to the people already living there",Ha??? the people who been living there were Christians,Jews,Muslims and so on!!! and No! it does not belongs to the Turks, because the Ottoman Empire does not exist anymore, and by your stupid sense they should claim;the Balkan,Albania,Armenia,Azerbaijan,Bosnia Herzegovina,Crete,Crima,Cyprus,Georgia,Greece,Hungary,Macedonia,Montenegro,and more!Get it into your thick skull! There is no more Ottoman Empire! Stop arguing on the Ottomans!
@011jaffa yours is the thick skull. i never said that it belonged to the ottoman empire, it belongs to the people who lived there during the rule of the Ottoman Empire, up to 1947 when a bunch of people who'd never set foot on the land came out of nowhere to throw them out of their homes.
Nop! it belonged to the Jews only!!! it will help you to read and watch archaeological excavations to learn that there were about 200 Synagogues all over Israel (and maybe even more)!!! every Jewish village and every Jewish Synagogue were found through the Bible, evidences to the fact that the only owners of so called "Palestine" region,
that today is called Israel, belongs to the Israelis!!!
@011jaffa lets say after 50 years Red Indians stand up and tell all americans to go back Europe to where they came from...what do you think the rest of the world will do ?...and here is the 64k$ question like George gallowy says '' do you think Europe is going to welcome them back home ?
@011jaffa lets say after 50 years Red Indians stand up and tell all americans to go back Europe to where they came from...what do you think the rest of the world will do ?...and here is the 64k$ question like George gallowy says '' do you think Europe is going to welcome them back home ?
@011jaffa lets say after 50 years Red Indians stand up and tell all americans to go back Europe to where they came from...what do you think the rest of the world will do ?...and here is the 64k$ question like George gallowy says '' do you think Europe is going to welcome them back home ?
@011jaffa the Jews owned it almost 2000 years ago(the reason you require ARCHAEOLOGICAL evidence). not anymore. my great-great grandfather lived in northern India, that doesn't mean i can just go and kick the new residents out because we left didn't we? and that's what you did. you left, as you admitted yourself you sprayed, and so let up the land to other people. it's not yours anymore, and no book can give you the right to it.
How much history do you know?My great great great grandparents(and so on)lived in Israel many years ago,so the Romans and the Ottomans had the right to kick them out of there?there were almost 1 million Jews who lived in the Arab States,way,way before the Arabs lived in "Palestine"!in 1948 at the same time as the Palestinian Arabs left (because they were told by their leaders to leave)!but the Jews in the Arab states were kicked out from their homes,lands,many were hung!!!Is that OK?
Oh,you are 16 years young,live in Pakistan,and your information comes from your bias schools,of course they tell you only one side of the story! At the beginning of the 20th Century there were 2 Jewish congregations in Karachi and Peshawar about 3,000 Jews lived there!There were 2 Synagogues one still exist but it's locked!the other,in 1988 the government of Pakistan demolished it to build a shopping center!on Jewish land!there are no Jews left in Pakistan since 1947, No wonder!Ha?
@011jaffa i don't rely on state information. like any responsible young individual, i don't trust what the state. there is no denying that Jews suffered much in Pakistan. and they were abused wrongfully. that however, does not justify the treatment dished out, several times worse, that Israel has handed out to the Palestinians. maybe you should check what your own state tell you sometime.
@011jaffa no they didn't. the people are still there. however your comment clearly expresses the mentality of most other Israelites, who like to pretend the Ottoman Empire never existed, that 1700 years never happened, that the Jews walked out one day and came back the next.
You are showing your ignorance again.First, it is not Israelites,but Israelis! Second,since when Israeli pretend that the Ottoman Empire never existed?are you a total idiot? All Israelis study history in school,to say that the Ottoman Empire never existed is stupid! All the Israelis know real history! nobody pretends that it never happened,what's the matter with you?!but there was the Greek Empire,The Roman Empire,the Persian Empire and more,not only Ottoman empire!non of them exists
@011jaffa "but there is no more Ottoman Empire,it vanished!" "the Ottoman Empire?..Pooof !!! no more!"
get this in your head yeah? the greeks and persians don't matter cuz 1)they lost control of the land long before Israel and 2)they never settled the land, only conquered it. the inhabitants remained the same (Arabs) through the course of time. rulers changed but the people were still there. until Israelis came along and kicked them out.
I don't think you should call @johnykalykaba a "dumbass" because you are the one! he is right! Archaeological findings confirm that the only people and country of what was called Palestine was ancient Israel and the nation in Israel was the Jews!!! you can look it up on the net and also on you tube if you are too lazy to read the Encyclopedia and history books!!!
@011jaffa so i'm sure that during the centuries of Ottoman rule, or as the guy in the video says, 1700 years of Jewish absence., the rest of the population just evaporated? there was no other country with the borders of Israel, but all of modern Israel fell under the rule of the Ottoman Empire, and there were indigenous Arabs living there before the Jews were sent there in their boats. if there had been no country there before Israel, you wouldn't have had to fight for it.
First, not all Jews left Israel, many sprayed,another thing is that the Jews were a very small nation who could not fight huge empires!the Jewish absence from Israel was not their choice,but they always kept their Judaism,they prayed towards Jerusalem, and always dreamed to return to their homeland!If your(ignorant)logic would have been true,all the Arabs lands and lots of European countries Ottomans conquered belong to the Ottomans?but there is no more Ottoman Empire,it vanished!
@moiz2468 Actually, according to your words there was no Palestine either. The Brits called the entire region Palestine which included Jordan. If you want a Palestinian state, go to Jordan. To conclude, this region had many names throughout history but Israel (old and new) was the only actual country during that time.
Mind you own business Mr. Galloway, what right do you have to judge other country?!
Fascist dirt bag!
Nobody granted Israel other peoples country...Ha? It is an historical fact that Israel is the homeland of the Jews!!!
Talking about the Arabs in the region called Palestine, Jews were absolutely massacred by the Arabs!!! The Mufti of Jerusalem, Arafat's uncle went to Hitler and asked him for help to wipe the Jews of Israel and kill them all! Learn history sir!!! you are an idiot liar moron!!!
The Jews never left their homeland "eventually" by their own will! they were exiled by the Romans, but not all of them there where Jews who stayed and lived there for many many generations!...
There is no idea such as Intifada in Zionism/ Judaism. we came to Israel looking for refuge from the Holocaust and we were refused by the English and the surrounding Arabs ( except for a righteous few) attacked us. should we have just waited to be thrown into another Holocaust? we fought a defensive battle and won! read about the Hebron Massacre for example
@AthosAmo Of course you are. You're reluctantly admitting to Muslim murders of Jews and saying "well at least it wasn't as bad as what the Christians did". It's a mitigation. You should aim higher than that.
@DanielBerlinTV "Of course you are." So admitting to Muslim people having persecuted Jews is exculpating them.... No. Implying that they persecuted is the opposite of exculpation. I was not reluctant to say that Muslims murdered, but to disagree with Galloway. You took it the wrong way. I'm not afraid of pointing out when people do wrong, or my own wrongs. And Galloway lost much of my respect since I made that comment. I've seen more videos of the guy I did not know existed 'til recently.
@AthosAmo You're mitigating what Muslims did to Jews by saying that what Christians did was worse when in fact what both did was wrong independently of each other. There's no need to mitigate via league table.
@DanielBerlinTV Whenever anyone compares ANYTHING bad, to something worse, some doofus like you can come around and say: "HEY! You're making that bad thing look not-as-bad as the other thing!" DUH! It's compared to worse. It's inevitable that it looks less bad. I was not the decider of history; the Muslims who persecuted Jews, and the fake Christians who persecuted Jews (some of whom were fake Jews), decided that one would be less bad than the other. The truth is not anti-semitic, fool.
@AthosAmo@AthosAmo I can see by your ad hominem you know you've already lost this point. Historical facts don't decide moral points. One person being murdered is no better or worse than another person. Fake Christians? Is this another mitigation? Another attempt to distance Christianity from its crimes? Please tell me i'm not discussing this with a child because you sure as hell argue as one.
@DanielBerlinTV Ad hominem is when a person is attacked instead of their argument. I didn't do that.
"One person being murdered is no better or worse than another person." Of course. But more Jews have been murdered by fake Christians than by Muslims, methinks.
A Christian is someone who obeys Jesus and repents when they don't. Roman Catholics perpetually disobey Jesus, particularly those committing the Inquisition and the Crusades. They are heretics. As are most Protestants.
@AthosAmo You called me a DOOFUS. Are you suffering from memory loss now? And please stop trying to distance Christian history from its crimes by labelling them fake - it's really morally repugnant.
@DanielBerlinTV "You called me a DOOFUS. Are you suffering from memory loss now?" Let me repeat for you, hypocrite. The one who suffers from memory loss is YOU, for forgetting what I just said: "Ad hominem is when a person is attacked instead of their argument. I didn't do that." Do you know what "instead" means? If not, you're a DOOFUS.
@DanielBerlinTV What do you know about morality, Zionazi, Palestinian murderer? As you point your finger at me, I point at the blood on the floor, dripping from it.
@AthosAmo OK you really have lost this. I point you not only to the millions of dead Arabs at the hands of their own governments but at all the Arabs today fighting for their very lives to have the exact same freedoms and rights their fellow Arabs have...in Israel. Game, set, and match to @DanielBerlinTV. But thanks for playing :)
@DanielBerlinTV I don't deny that Muslims massacre people. All right?
So you're saying that Israhell has the right to exist because it gives many rights to people, like the U.S. does? Well, ignoring the fact that there's much discrimination there by racist Zionists against dark-skinned, alleged Jews, Palestinians, and alleged Christians, your argument can be used by the English on the Native Americans. Were they justified in stealing the Natives' lands?
@AthosAmo For someone who just justified the targeting of civilians by conveniently rewriting history, you really are in no position to lecture on human rights, discrimination and all the other words you only use when it suits you.
@AthosAmo You can't call a country that was democratically elected into existence by other countries an occupier because it means all the countries that weren't democratically created by world vote are occupiers even more, which includes all the Arab states you love so much.
@DanielBerlinTV Who says I love "the Arab states." I love Arabs, and Jews. I don't like Zionist governments NOR Muslim governments, but the former is worse, because it brings the name of the Jews into disrepute, and is the manifestation of Jewish rebellion against their God.
@DanielBerlinTV No European powers had the right to make Israhell happen. Britain had no right to the land, so giving it away to European "Jews," primarily Ashkenazim, was unwarranted.
Don't act like your imperialist, European invasion and colonization was a "democratic" thing. Why didn't the inhabitants of the Holy Land get a vote? Rich foreigners decided the fate of the poor inhabitants, fool!
@AthosAmo You didn't attack my argument, you made a real piss poor attempt at that. Instead you called me a doofus in an even weaker attempt to cover up how weak your points are. That is ad hominem - an attack of the person.
@DanielBerlinTV No. An ad hominem isn't merely "an attack of the person." Otherwise, you are guilty of it by your own standard, DOOFUS. You''ve attacked me, too.
And implying that I'm anti-semitic certainly qualifies as one if any attacks by me do.
@DanielBerlinTV "And please stop trying to distance Christian history from its crimes by labelling them fake - it's really morally repugnant." Now you have chosen to outright LIE. Slanderer. I NEVER said that crimes by alleged Christians were fake. NEVER! What I said, was that the alleged Christians were fake. Jesus said to love your enemies. Roman Catholic Crusaders and Inquisitors obviously did not. And they persecuted God's chosen people, for crying out loud! So of course they're fake.
@AthosAmo Whether you agree with each individual church is irrelevant to the phenomenon of Jew hatred across Christendom. You calling such Christians fake therefore is either irrelevant to the discussion or a ploy by you to say "that's not true Christianity" - when any reading of the NT shows it's vehemently anti-Jewish.
@DanielBerlinTV You conveniently regard mass murderers like Crusader popes to be true Christians, because you are an atheist who hates religions. And many of the religious, it seems. Define Christian.
The most "anti-Jewish" book is the Old Testament, which calls the Jews a "stiff-necked people" who deserve to die and who are not good enough for God, as no one can be. You resort to slander because you can't defend the existence of the illegal polity Israhell.
@AthosAmo It's not whether someone is a true X or Y in your opinion, it's whether they purport to be an X or Y. With all the Jew hatred in the source of Christianity, the NT, it matters not if you think such Christians are real or fake. You misquote the OT. Altho desert psychopath "god" calls Israelites stiff-necked and nothing special, they're the only people willing to keep his laws. That's as true today as it was then if Paul is anything to go by. This is off topic btw.
Numbers 16: 41-45: The next day the whole Israelite community grumbled against Moses and Aaron. “You have killed the LORD’s people,” they said. But when the assembly gathered in opposition to Moses and Aaron and turned toward the tent of meeting, suddenly the cloud covered it and the glory of the LORD appeared. Then Moses and Aaron went to the front of the tent of meeting, and the LORD said to Moses, “Get away from this assembly so I can put an end to them at once.” And they fell facedown.
@AthosAmo wow a snippet of the bible taken out of its textual and historical and religious context. You wouldn't be a Christian by any chance would you?
@DanielBerlinTV What a loser. If I quoted the whole book of Numbers, you would still say: "You're taking out of context." Show me how the context changes the fact that the Old Testament is "anti-Jewish" there. God loves the Jews, but he punishes them when they sin just as he punishes any other people when THEY sin.
I love the Jews. You want to portray me as anti-semitic, because you can't beat my arguments.
We could claim the crimes committed by Communists is not true Communism. At some point those we know them by their fruits. As a defender of the evil that is religion, you should be familiar with who is purported to have said that.
@DanielBerlinTV By the way, you seem to be defending the "Jews," so I want to ask YOU: are you a Zionist? If so, you are not only defending many (but not all) murders of Palestinians (and others) for the "defence" of Israhell, which is an illegal occupier; you are guilty of the same by being an accomplice, as a defender of Zionism, which makes such murders inevitable.
@AthosAmo Great moral inversion there and very wishful thinking on your part - it requires no response from me. By your logic all Germans during WW2 were Nazis by default. You can see where that's ludicrous as being in support of some things doesnt mean you support all of it, except when the word Jew gets mentioned you become blinkered. Have you ever wondered why? Illegal is such a devalued word today thanks to people like you and Galloway.
@DanielBerlinTV You are ignorant of history if you think that all Germans were either Nazis or accomplices to Hitler. "-it requires no response from me." Great defence there! Begging the question!
Why don't you explain how the Europeans' taking control of the Holy Land is not wrong? Because it can't be defended well, since it's patent wickedness.
@AthosAmo Great so now you see how not all Zionists are defenders of the Israeli government and not all defenders of Israel are necessarily Zionists. We got somewhere. Your "you're a Zionist therefore an accomplice of the Israeli gov't action" was childish to say the least.
@DanielBerlinTV A Zionist, by definition, supports the existence of the current illegitimate state that calls itself "Israel," which, as I said, makes murders of Palestinians inevitable. You seem to be saying that since you disagree with certain policies of the Israeli govenment, that you are innocent of any crimes of Israel. Well, the issue is not about the Netanyahu team, or what have you. The issue is your condoning of the occupation AT ALL. If you do, then you have blood on your hands.
@AthosAmo A new day, a new moral inversion. LIkewise your call for a smaller, weaker or non-existent Israel leaves Jewish civilian blood on your hands. Much of the Palestinian cause you support targets Israeli civilians with the full intention of murdering them. Stop reading the Hamas Charter and use it for all it's good for: toilet paper.
@DanielBerlinTV "LIkewise your call for a smaller, weaker or non-existent Israel leaves Jewish civilian blood on your hands." All I said was that the illegal occupation meant inevitable murders, and you think that I am guilty of Jewish blood because I say that? How about this one: the illegal theft of America by Europe meant inevitable murders. Now, are you going to be consistent and accuse me of European blood because I say that?
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@DanielBerlinTV You accuse me of having "Jewish civilian blood" on my hands. Who are the civilians? Occupiers. Only the children and the literally retarded are innocent if they die there, because the rest of the Zionists there are accomplices to the occupation, being ILLEGAL OCCUPIERS themselves. They're not innocent. And when small children of Zionists die (which is a # far less than small Palestinian kids' deaths), it's the adult Zionists' fault for having risked their lives by living there.
@AthosAmo It's also obvious that in a world where 11 million Arabs can be murdered off by Arab regimes in less time than Israel has existed, your obsession with Israel has something pathological about it. It's almost as if Israel fulfils certain needs of your own...
@DanielBerlinTV My obsession with Israel is to be expected, since I'm Christian. I used to be a Zionist as late as '08 because I had thought that since the Holy Land belongs to the Jews, that they have the right to it, and that their return to it is the fulfillment of prophecies. Indeed it fulfills some. But when I learned about the Neturei Karta, I questioned my position. I now know that the second exile was due to the rejection of Jesus, so as long as Jews reject him, they forfeit the land.
@AthosAmo Cue the Twilight Zone music - there's a Christian online.... Oh dear, you must really struggle with the archaeology then that shows significantly that your "god" was man-made. Israel has more right to exist than most other countries: it's one of the few that was democratically created by the whole world. Not your invisible sky daddy psychopath, but the human race at the UN.
@DanielBerlinTV Listen, stupid atheist who acts as if he's not another evil Zionist with blood on his hands. For you to reject all of the supernatural is to embrace the only alternative to account for the origin of the great order in nature: ACCIDENTS. Your creator-gods are Accidenthor and Accidenthena. Only an idiiot would believe that DNA and the rest of the greatly ordered things in the Cosmos were ACCIDENTALLY formed. i.e. without any intention involved.
@AthosAmo So your true motive against Israel not really being Palestinian rights and your new ad hominem against me aside, which scientist says any of it was purely accidental, and what has the creation of the universe got to do the diversity of life on this planet? Evolution explains life with evidence. You've created an infinite regress: who created the creator? It'd have to be something or someone greater than god by your "logic".
@DanielBerlinTV I have several reasons to hate Zionism. I have religious reasons, which overlap with my caring for others, no matter who they are. I committed no ad hominem. I didn't say that scientists say -with the exact words- that DNA and the like were purely accidental. Most scientists who fall for the myth you buy into don't want their myth to sound bad, so they don't call it one of accidents, though it is. Common descent of species is unfalsifiable, so it is unscientific.
@AthosAmo Also it's not very intelligent to beg a question with "god done it" - apart from being intellectually lazy, it's also been demonstrably shown that god was man-made.
@DanielBerlinTV My argument for the supernatural is simple: accidents always destroy the little order they create, never reaching the heights. For example, erosion. It can never create something as orderly as Michelangelo's David, no matter how much time is given. The David is nothing compared to DNA and a cell.
@DanielBerlinTV As if I haven't heard that one before. The supernatural creator is not subject to the physical laws he established. Neither is he something within nature. He is SUPERnatural; above the natural.
You keep failing as long as you can't falsify common descent, with a scenario.
@AthosAmo to create the supernatural to prove the natural explains nothing about the natural. what created the supernatural? you mean this invisible sky daddy sat with nothing for billions of years until one day he thought "ya know what i'm a gunna create some shit. yeah dat be about right. let dere be light!" hmm.. please tell me you're not still in kindergarten.
@DanielBerlinTV Asking for the origin of the SUPER/NON-natural Creator is assuming that the supernatural is just like the natural, needing an ultimate explanation. It doesn't.
You shouldn't describe yourself as "shit," though your words amount to it.
I see you are shamelessly committing ad hominem fallacies left and right, atheist fool.
@AthosAmo oh how convenient - the supernatural doesn't need an explanation - a cause - a reason to exist - but the natural does and somehow illogically that explanation is the supernatural - you're getting circular now.
Please, your ad hominem is always priceless, don't stop on my behalf :)
@AthosAmo um do you know what DNA is? do you know what chemistry is? DNA can be created all on its own without any intelligent input. But that's science, not religion so you're not interested in that.
@DanielBerlinTV You don't get it, atheist. You beg the question, since DNA replication is possible only with existing DNA. You need to explain the origin of the first DNA, but you can't do that, fool.
@AthosAmo no go read normative authentic science - it's not my job to educate you - you confessed to your anti-Israel bias being religiously motivated and your anti-science bias is similarly motivated. You have the issue here, not science.
@DanielBerlinTV Well, I'm done with you. Unless you attempt to falsify the theory that needs to be falsifiable for it to be SCIENTIFIC. No deluded atheist idiot like you has ever been able, or will ever be able, to do it.
You're worse than most of your fellow brethren. You Palestinian murdering, Science polluting imbecile.
@AthosAmo The fact that you find science and its conclusions hard to accept tells us everything we need to know about you - it tells us nothing about the true nature & history of the universe. Alternatively, I doubt if there were a god (and there demonstrably isn't) that he'd create all this just so the Pope can tell people not to jerk off.
@DanielBerlinTV You beg the question that it is real science you defend. You cannot falsify common descent of species, sucker! So it is unscientific. The establishment is guilty of a double standard.
I'm not a Roman Caatholic, as should be clear from previous comments of mine, condemning that heretical group.
@DanielBerlinTV You're a coward who is incapable -like all other science-polluting atheists- of falsifying common descent of species with a scenario. Since you can't do it, it shows how unscientific the "theory" of "evolution" is.
@AthosAmo except the theory of evolution has over 200,000 pieces of evidence, genetics, and can be demonstrated in the lab. Science also proves god was man-made.
Your man-made desert psychopath "god" has 0 evidence it is some super-natural being. It's only supernatural because you believe it so and that settles it right? D.E.L.U.S.I.O.N.A.L.
@DanielBerlinTV Macro-evolution can't be demonstrated anywhere except in your imagination. Micro-evolution is true, however.
"Science also proves god was man-made." You're a delusional hypocrite, and a Zionazi who fails at 1. defending your Zionist crimes/the Zionist state, 2. Science. You are incapable of falsifying what must be falsifiable to be a scientific theory. 3. Life. You are an evil fool who deserves to get shot by Hamas.
@AthosAmo um sorry - macro-evolution is the result of micro-evolution - they're part of the same system - where you have micro-evolution you have a macro-evolutionary effect. You really need to read some science. It's painful to watch you #Fail like that but amusing at the same time lol.
i hope there is a god cause only then will the people that need justice will get it cause no one else in this world will listen.
swiv2d 1 month ago
@swiv2d dont worry.. there will be justice...It is prophesized.
The100black100 1 month ago
Oh, shut-up liar Galloway!Palestine was not "somebody else's country" it was no mans desert land,(read Mark Twains visit to Palestine)it was conquered by some empires,but always was is and will be the Jewish ancient homeland!The reason it was called Palestine is because when the Greeks conquered the region,they called it "Provinkia Palestina".This ignorant Galloway is distorting history! I just came from Spain and read it's Jews and Muslims history in Spain very thoroughly.Again he is a LIAR!
011jaffa 2 months ago
GEORGE FOR PM
missysummertime 2 months ago
@missysummertime
GEORGE FOR THE TRASH!
011jaffa 2 months ago
(finkako = fuck up ) ( 8 = mouth pussy ) ( 6 = sex ) shut up u nasty dog yusuf chambers wy u send messege like this to george gollaway . now my messege wat heppen in palestine about 7 decete wat is the justice for israel . justice for israel is israel has to be out of map .
DidarMiahMA 2 months ago
@DidarMiahMA
Keep on your nasty words, or the curse will be on you!!! and a dog ,by the way, is the sweetest pet, he is called man's best friend, because he is much better than people like you!
011jaffa 2 months ago
@DidarMiahMA
First,watch your dirty mouth,second,what happened in Israel 7 decades ago is pure justice!!! Israel is
the ancient home of the Jewish people for 4,000 yeas always was, is and will be(way before there was bloody Islam)!before Muhammad the rapist and pedophile,Muslims were pedophile.Islam should be erased from the face of the earth,we are too nice to Muslims,enough,it is time that the western world understand what is Islam and how much chaos and bloodshed it brings to our world!!!
011jaffa 2 months ago
im actually watchin your videos,just to learn what the truth is about the palestinian area,jews,war and the current political establishments.keep up the good work mate-nice one
MrProktah 3 months ago
@MrProktah
Who is the one you watch his videos? this is not the way to learn anything,especially not the truth,the Jews,war or the current political establishment". That is the worst way, because you hear only one side of an opinion of one person! The way to learn is the Encyclopedia,fair and not bias newspapers,news on tv,or listen to honest
courageous politicians (like Stefen Harper,Prime Minister of Canada),or debates and interviews,read a lot and research,than you can form a fair opinion!
011jaffa 2 months ago
whoa, just incredible.
if everyone listened to this man, there would be world peace.
finkako86 3 months ago 2
@finkako86
If anyone listen to Galloway,he will learn a distortion of the truth!This guy is either so ignorant a liar or has some agenda behind it! He is full of hatred toward Israel,so he is producing fictions!
People like him instigate hatred and that would lead to confusion,hate and war!
You and others should get their knowledge from real history books and the encyclopedia if you want the truth and not fiction! otherwise you will stay ignorant and make a comment like the one you made!
011jaffa 2 months ago
@011jaffa I do not support instigating hatred or war on anyone. And of course Mr. Galloway has an agenda – making Israelis realize that they can not live in a perpetual war with their fellow men. That idea is very honest, and the only path to stability in the region.
There will never be peace in the Middle East as long as Muslim and Jew fanatics brainwash their children with religion and hatred towards their neighbors. Don't shoot the messenger.
finkako86 2 months ago
@finkako86
Thanks for your honesty,but your facts are not based on knowledge,It is true,there never will be peace if the Muslims brainwash their children with religious fanatics,but,I grew-up in Israel,and I served in the IDF,I raised children,I never heard anyone raise their children with hate,on the contrary,Israel has 1.5 million Muslims,and we lived side by side as equals,they have an Israeli citizenship,get state of the art medicine and education,they live in beautiful homes and democracy
011jaffa 2 months ago
@finkako86
I respect your honesty that there will never be peace in the Middle East as long as Israel has fanatic Muslims as it's neighbors!for us Israeli Jews it is very unfortunate,but better live in our homeland so we can defend ourselves,than in any other country in which we can't fight for ourselves!In every generation comes a new Hitler or Torquemada,and Now Ahmedinijaad! But,TG Israel has the IDF to defend itself!There is a saying in Israel
that "Masada won`t fall for the 2nd time"!
011jaffa 2 months ago
@finkako86
Israel does not "brainwash"their children to hate(there are some bad seeds in every society)the proof is that 1.5 million Israeli Muslims live in Harmony along with Israelis.Israel has workshops to bring Arab and Jewish kids together! but,children are not stupid,many of their dads died or wounded in the wars,and many died or wounded by suicide bombers,or children in the north and south born and grow-up all their lives in shelters,so what do you expect?should they love their enemy?
011jaffa 2 months ago
@011jaffa You hateful blustering only hurts yourself and your people. Learn to accept your fellow man and live in harmony. Peace out.
finkako86 2 months ago
@finkako86
Yes,you are right,we should all live in peace,but here comes reality and bends all the rules!You stretch your hand for peace and the hand is cut off by your enemies,so what can you do?you hand them your other,than your legs,they will amputate all of your limbs,Rather than make peace with you!How can you "sit to the table" with people who don't want to make concessions?who do not agree to recognize Israel's right to exist?they want it all and to "dump Israelis into the sea"they say!
011jaffa 2 months ago
@finkako86
I am absolutely not hateful I understand that there are people who are suffering on the other side and I fill for
them,but it is not Israel's fault,it is their terrorist regimes!Yes,it is very nice,I accept my fellow man,but do they accept me?absolutely not! they want to(I quote)"dump all Israelis to the sea"! Israels Defense minister offered them an unbelievable gesture of the return to all 67 borders including east Jerusalem..but,Arafat refused!he wanted it all. all of Israel!!!
011jaffa 2 months ago
@finkako86 Living in peace with Hamas thugs hellbent on destroying you? Kinda impossible. And it's quite pathetic this communist useful idiot Galloway is such a troll who misees no opportunity to support Europe's enemies.
LKHK76 1 week ago
@missysummertime
3. George Galloway said that Muslims always lived in peace and protected the Jews, i gave an example that in1929, prior to any declaration of Israel, Muslims massacred Jews at Hebron.
Tomorrow Israel will release 1027 Terrorists who participated on hundreds of massacres against Israeli civilians.
You gave only one example for a tragic event during the Israeli Independence war that by the way Arab countries started and attacked new born Israel (but still defeated).
uvsilver 3 months ago
@missysummertime
What George Galloway sase is all garbage!!! he was declared as "Persona non Grata" in many countries and he is not allowed to enter them! so he is not the guy you should listen or learn from!!!
011jaffa 2 months ago
@uvsilver
Well-said,but not enough in August 1929 there was a whole week of Jews massacres though out Palestine(not only Hebron)in Safed,in Jerusalem,Haifa and more, Muslims massacred 133 Jews and wounded 339! The Mufti of Jerusalem Hajj Amin al Husseini(who was Yasser Arafat's uncle) wanted to "finish the job",he went to Hitler and asked him to help annihilate all the Jews of Palestine(watch on you tube documentary) and together he and Hitler
formed an Arab-Nazi unit,lucky the WW2 ended!
011jaffa 2 months ago
Dude, have you ever considered the size of Israel? Israel is as small as Rhode Island, and surrounded by Islamic countries 640 times the size of Israel, who own most of the worlds oil, and have one goal: kill everybody who is not muslim. By the way, Israel is the only democratic country over there, and the most multiculturel country in the world. Thats right, many muslims live in Israel side by side with jews. Something that could not happen in Islamic countries!
econochannel 3 months ago
@econochannel Did you not just hear George? Muslims, Christians and Jews were living side by side for centuries upon centuries in Palestine and also in the muslim world. In Israel Palestinians are treateted as dogs like second-class citizens they can't vote, can't marry a Jew, serached if they want to go to the mosque to pray etc. what kind of life is that? Never mind how the Israeli's are killing off the Palestinians in Gaza.
missysummertime 3 months ago
missysummertime, Galloway was always biased in his opinions against Israel and in favor of the Palestinians.
Muslims maybe lived side by side with Jews in the 16 century.. many decades ago.
1. England conquered Palestine from the Turks Outman empire, it had every right to do with this area what ever it wanted and indeed it did.
2. There was never a country called Palestine, it was just a vast area in the Middle East.
3. Muslims did massacred Jews in Hebron on 24-Oug-1929.
uvsilver 3 months ago
@uvsilver
1. Palestine has been home to Palestinian people for many centuries thus the British had no right to give away someone elses country.
2. The land has a history of being Palestine from early as the 5th century.
3. Jews massacred Palestinians in the Der Yasin massacre.
missysummertime 3 months ago
@missysummertime
1. Palestine was a geographical region in the Middle East but never a country.
This area was indeed home for many people for centuries but those people never called "Palestinians".
those people were Muslim Bedouins that wandered in the Middle East, Jews that remained for centuries in their settlements and more people and tribes that migrated on and off in this area.
2. the land has a history of changing caliphates, not Palestinian.
uvsilver 3 months ago
@missysummertime
And what about the massacres on all Palestinian 133 slaughtered, kids in front of their parent, amputations of limbs and burning at the stake? the Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin al Husseini(Arafat's uncle) didn't have enough, he wanted to annihilate all the Jews,met with Hitler for the "final solution of the Jews of Palestine (you can watch the documentaries on you tube) and together they formed the Muslim Nazi unit, that thanks God was too late it was to wards the end of WW2!
011jaffa 2 months ago
@missysummertime
For you intelligence;Always was a Jewish presence in Palestine(the ancient Greeks who conquered the area at the time named it"Palestina Provinkia")province of Palestine.The Brits never"gave"Palestine to the Jews,the UN members voted for it,but even in 1920 San-Remo resolution conference the countries involved signed a document"Palestine belongs to the Jews"watch on you tube:San Remo resolution,Palestine belongs to the Jews.Shame it was too late to save Jews from Hitler`s claws
011jaffa 2 months ago
@011jaffa 1. Brits did give a few Zionist, atheist Jews a state in Palestine (check Balfour agreement). 2. They were also considering places such as Madagascar to set up state but they chose Palestine. 3. The Jews were never expelled from Palestine 4. The Zionist Jews have taken more land then they were given- they illegally occupy the west bank and east Juresalem. 3. Why must you always have to bring up Hitler to get the sympathy vote? The Oppressed can turn into oppressors perfect ex. Israel
missysummertime 2 months ago
@missysummertime
Actually,I think you should go back to the history books:1.Brits did not give "a few Atheist Jews"Palestine,actually the Brits screwed-up the Jews 1/3 of what has been signed in the San-Remo agreement (all the west bank and Jordan)! 2.Bull..only Herzl brought Madagascar as an option which was immediately removed (the Jews wanted their ancient homelands)! 3.Not true,actually they have been given much more land (Lord Balfour signed on it) and you should check it!even on you tube
011jaffa 2 months ago
@missysummertime
Now about the bastard SOB Hitler! I did not bring him-up to get sympathy, I merely said that Hajj Amin al Husseini
was in cahoots with him they made a plan to annihilate all the Jews of Palestine,and they formed an Arab-German
unit,ready to go to Palestine!but luckily for the Jews, the allies "finished Hitler"and the 3rd Reich so the plan did not go through! I never bring the Murderer Satan Hitler (who massacred most of my family) for sympathy,it will never bring them back!
011jaffa 2 months ago
@011jaffa Yeah, yeah all I'm saying is that Jews seem to forget the Holocaust happened in EUROPE. Ever since the state of Isreal its all this: Jews vs. Muslims bullshit. Considering the small population of the Jews and its centuries of bad treatment in Western countries Jews it seems to me muslims were your greatest allies till the state of Isreal.
missysummertime 2 months ago
@missysummertime
Listen well:if you want to change history and make a fictitious one based on you vivid imagination,you are welcome,but facts are fact!I believe in encyclopedia and documentaries as proof of real history,but about the Muslims,it is a fact that Hajj Amin al Husseini did order his people to massacre the Jews,and it is a fact that there was a Muslim unit in the German Reich,their intent was to annihilate Jew of Palestine!Today there are 1.5Mil Muslims equal to it's Jewish ones!
011jaffa 2 months ago
@missysummertime
Why is that "Brits did give a few Zionist atheist"?why atheists?there are religious Zionists and there are Christian Zionists.Why"a few"? the idea of Madagascar came-up in the Jewish conference(but was dismissed) and not by the Brits!No,the Jews actually "took"less than the land which was granted to them,actually,the border of the land was all the way from the Mediterranean sea to the Jordan river(which included all the Jewish holy ancestry places,all in the West-Bank)legally!
011jaffa 2 months ago
@011jaffa It may be legal in your mind but according to INTERNATIONAL LAW the west bank is occupied Palestinian teritory and therefore the Jewish settlers are ILLEGAL.
missysummertime 2 months ago
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011jaffa 2 months ago
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I believe that the moment has come whereby both sides, Israel and the occupied territories, put to one side the blood shed that has transfused and engulfed the holy land in the most bottomless of pits. What is now needed, above all other things, is a purposeful and meaningful leadership steered by those at the helm. The stewardship is now in the hands of those who it seems have already made up their minds. May the heavens grant the suffering people of this world a quick end and eternal peace.
westernise 3 months ago
Zionazi
13dachronic 4 months ago
no right at all..thats the answer..
davycrocketful 4 months ago
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and you make the males of banu qurayza look so innocent! They were punished for their crimes after they broke the pact with the Muslims and allied with the enemy who was to come and wipe the Muslims out, men, women and children. The jews of banu qurayza were punished according to their own book of Deuteronomy 20: 12-14.
The prophet even gave them the choice to pick their own judge, and they picked Saad Muaz, who was a convert to Islam from Judaism.
muhyiddine 4 months ago
and you make the males of banu qurayza look so innocent! They were punished for their crimes after they broke the pact with the Muslims and allied with the enemy who was to come and wipe the Muslims out, men, women and children. The jews of banu qurayza were punished according to their own book of Deuteronomy 20: 12-14.
The prophet even gave them the choice to pick their own judge, and they picked Saad Muaz, who was a convert to Islam from Judaism.
muhyiddine 4 months ago
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Generalizing an entire population of people over the acts of a minority is pure shameful.
You have clearly fallen for the propaganda you see on TV.
These so called terrorists raid small villages and force husbands to kill themselves in order to save their families from forced rape and murder. I don't understand why you justify your hate for over 2 billion people over the acts of 300 or so politically influenced figures portrayed on your television screen.
amirjitsu 4 months ago
Shame to all Zionists!
amirjitsu 4 months ago
I agree British has no right to give other People country to anyone
But I wonder do George Galloway knows about the 600 Jews male who have been Slaughter by Prophet Muhammad and Their wives have been raped ?
Search for "Bani Quraizah"
satmuts 4 months ago 2
@satmuts cool story bro.
sabelilah 4 months ago
@satmuts
Again, the British did not "give" Palestine to the Jews(watch on you tube; THE SAN REMO CONFERENCE,and read(or watch on you tube)the UN vote for the return of the Jews to their ancient homeland!(Galloway is a liar, and was declared as a "PERSONA NON GRATA`in many countries(not Muslims,obviously)he befriended all the Arab dictators,like Assad, Qaddafi, and terrorists leaders like Hamas and Hezbollah..in WW2 Hajj Amin l Husseini met with Hitler to Annihilate all the Jews of Palestine!
011jaffa 2 months ago
Dare voice!
You are completely right, he could not answer the question even for the fourth time!they have no rights at all.
mykhaledi 4 months ago 7
@mykhaledi
He could not answer the questions because he sound very young,and Galloway is very dominating and damn aggressive! He is Mr.Know-it-all...let me tell you Galloway is a demagogue who speaks to the ignorant! He can't fool the intelligent people! And about the fact that Israel cannot fight a perpetual war with the Arabs is a statement that everyone sase,and not honesty.I have news to you,Israel is fighting a war of no choice,and it will fight as long as it needs in order to survive!
011jaffa 2 months ago
oh bullshit. It was nothing more than desert land. worthless, no buildings, no businesses, no homes just a few goat herders! Britain was doing something good and moral! Britain was trying to help a Race of people to Survive. Muslims are NEVER innocent. This guy is so full of shit! Even America's First WAR was against ISLAMIC MUSLIMS!
Zalahblue 4 months ago
@Zalahblue bullshit ur face :)
sabelilah 4 months ago
@sabelilah Stay Stupid. It's your only hope. (ړײ)
Zalahblue 4 months ago
@Zalahblue "Muslims are NEVER innocent" Most Racist Sentence EVER !!!!!
Bosalih 4 months ago
@Bosalih Don't be stupid. Muslim is not a race of Humans.
Zalahblue 4 months ago
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@Zalahblue
Generalizing an entire population of people over the acts of a minority is pure shameful.
You have clearly fallen for the propaganda you see on TV.
These so called terrorists raid small villages and force husbands to kill themselves in order to save their families from forced rape and murder. I don't understand why you justify your hate for over 2 billion people over the acts of 300 or so politically influenced figures portrayed on your television screen.
amirjitsu 4 months ago
Again, what right did Britain have to grant you somebody else's country?
SamFaris7 4 months ago 2
WHY ARE PALESTINIANS EVEN PAYING FOR THE HOLOCAUST!!! THE WORLD IS BLINDED BECAUSE OF THE MEDIA. ZIONISTS ARE REDOING THE HOLOCAUST IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES! THE DAY IS COMING SOON ! LONG LIVE PALESTINE
TheKoukieMonster 4 months ago
Blah blah blah George’s highly developed imagination is mixed up with a minute amount of truth! …Regected even by the p.c Arab loving BBC, This person is a insignificant little prick, really a NOTHING in the British political map, admired by the Jihadist Muslims and hated by most real British persons. Even despised by his own Scottish people who feel he sold his soul to the Muslim devils.
2011rawtruth 4 months ago
george galloway u absolute champion everything he said is 100% correct the muslims protected the jews when they left spain because the jews were worried that they were going to get persecuted all over again, so the muslims protected them from that. wow george ur an awesome history teacher
82ayda 5 months ago 13
Israel was NOT somebody else's land! It was a part of the British Empire!!! Read history George!
Seinisonacsi 5 months ago
@Seinisonacsi the brits had only conquered it a few months ago, and as george says at around 0:50, Britain didn't have the right to displace the indigenous population for a population of people who weren't even really Britishers.
moiz2468 5 months ago
Who say it was palestinians country? Archologic finding show that the only country that was there before israel is eintient israel
johnykalykaba 6 months ago
@johnykalykaba Archaeological findings? try recent history. the place you call Israel had been part of the Ottoman Empire up to the 1940's. the Brit's conquered Ottoman Turkey, and then named the region Palestine and set up a separate Jewish state called Israel, which took over most of Palestine. so now the Israelites say, there was not Palestine befo Israel--- it was there dumbasses you just gave it a new name
moiz2468 5 months ago
@moiz2468
Not true!The Greeks conquered Israel in 312BCE,they called Israel "Provinkia Palestina"
All the inhabitance of that region whether they were Jews Christians or Arabs were called Palestinians!
So there was never a nation called Palestinian,it was a name of a region! The British did not "set-up" a
separate Jewish state,the UN voted for it!learn some real history Man! don't show your ignorance!
Israelis never say there wasn't a region of Palestine!but it was on the land of Israel!!!
011jaffa 5 months ago
@011jaffa back to ancient history. i'm talking about RECENT history, the last few centuries to be precise. the land that Israel now claims belonged to the Ottoman Turkish empire, the reason there were Arabs living there. the name of Palestine only emerged after the British broke up the old ottoman empire. it didn't matter to the Arabs already living in the region, it was out of their hands. they went to sleep in the one country and woke up in another one, never having moved an inch.
moiz2468 5 months ago
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011jaffa 5 months ago
@moiz2468
Excuse me?Israel "belonged"to the Ottomans?what a bunch of crock! Why do you think that it belongs to the Ottomans?The Greek Empire was ruling Israel for a long time and the Roman Empire ruled Israel for a long
time,so why the Ottomans?they were conquered by the British,so why Ottomans?why are they different than
any other rulers?First, the Ottoman Empire does not exist anymore,and the word Palestine was named by the Greeks!even the Turks don't claim Israel to belong to Ottomans!
011jaffa 5 months ago
@011jaffa i didn't say it belonged to the Ottomans. it belonged to the people already living there, whatever you call them. the Turks don't ask for it cuz they got their own country. the Ottoman empire comprised both turks and arabs, and it's specifically the arabs who lived in the Israeli region before it's creation that are fighting for it.
moiz2468 5 months ago
@moiz2468
"It belonged to the people already living there",Ha??? the people who been living there were Christians,Jews,Muslims and so on!!! and No! it does not belongs to the Turks, because the Ottoman Empire does not exist anymore, and by your stupid sense they should claim;the Balkan,Albania,Armenia,Azerbaijan,Bosnia Herzegovina,Crete,Crima,Cyprus,Georgia,Greece,Hungary,Macedonia,Montenegro,and more!Get it into your thick skull! There is no more Ottoman Empire! Stop arguing on the Ottomans!
011jaffa 5 months ago
@011jaffa yours is the thick skull. i never said that it belonged to the ottoman empire, it belongs to the people who lived there during the rule of the Ottoman Empire, up to 1947 when a bunch of people who'd never set foot on the land came out of nowhere to throw them out of their homes.
moiz2468 5 months ago
@moiz2468
Nop! it belonged to the Jews only!!! it will help you to read and watch archaeological excavations to learn that there were about 200 Synagogues all over Israel (and maybe even more)!!! every Jewish village and every Jewish Synagogue were found through the Bible, evidences to the fact that the only owners of so called "Palestine" region,
that today is called Israel, belongs to the Israelis!!!
011jaffa 5 months ago
@011jaffa lets say after 50 years Red Indians stand up and tell all americans to go back Europe to where they came from...what do you think the rest of the world will do ?...and here is the 64k$ question like George gallowy says '' do you think Europe is going to welcome them back home ?
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@011jaffa lets say after 50 years Red Indians stand up and tell all americans to go back Europe to where they came from...what do you think the rest of the world will do ?...and here is the 64k$ question like George gallowy says '' do you think Europe is going to welcome them back home ?
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@011jaffa lets say after 50 years Red Indians stand up and tell all americans to go back Europe to where they came from...what do you think the rest of the world will do ?...and here is the 64k$ question like George gallowy says '' do you think Europe is going to welcome them back home ?
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@011jaffa the Jews owned it almost 2000 years ago(the reason you require ARCHAEOLOGICAL evidence). not anymore. my great-great grandfather lived in northern India, that doesn't mean i can just go and kick the new residents out because we left didn't we? and that's what you did. you left, as you admitted yourself you sprayed, and so let up the land to other people. it's not yours anymore, and no book can give you the right to it.
moiz2468 5 months ago
@moiz2468
How much history do you know?My great great great grandparents(and so on)lived in Israel many years ago,so the Romans and the Ottomans had the right to kick them out of there?there were almost 1 million Jews who lived in the Arab States,way,way before the Arabs lived in "Palestine"!in 1948 at the same time as the Palestinian Arabs left (because they were told by their leaders to leave)!but the Jews in the Arab states were kicked out from their homes,lands,many were hung!!!Is that OK?
011jaffa 5 months ago
@moiz2468
Oh,you are 16 years young,live in Pakistan,and your information comes from your bias schools,of course they tell you only one side of the story! At the beginning of the 20th Century there were 2 Jewish congregations in Karachi and Peshawar about 3,000 Jews lived there!There were 2 Synagogues one still exist but it's locked!the other,in 1988 the government of Pakistan demolished it to build a shopping center!on Jewish land!there are no Jews left in Pakistan since 1947, No wonder!Ha?
011jaffa 5 months ago
@011jaffa i don't rely on state information. like any responsible young individual, i don't trust what the state. there is no denying that Jews suffered much in Pakistan. and they were abused wrongfully. that however, does not justify the treatment dished out, several times worse, that Israel has handed out to the Palestinians. maybe you should check what your own state tell you sometime.
moiz2468 5 months ago
@moiz2468
What are you sooo obsessed with the Ottoman Empire?....they no longer exist!!! they vanished...Pooof !!! no more!
011jaffa 5 months ago
@011jaffa no they didn't. the people are still there. however your comment clearly expresses the mentality of most other Israelites, who like to pretend the Ottoman Empire never existed, that 1700 years never happened, that the Jews walked out one day and came back the next.
moiz2468 5 months ago
@moiz2468
You are showing your ignorance again.First, it is not Israelites,but Israelis! Second,since when Israeli pretend that the Ottoman Empire never existed?are you a total idiot? All Israelis study history in school,to say that the Ottoman Empire never existed is stupid! All the Israelis know real history! nobody pretends that it never happened,what's the matter with you?!but there was the Greek Empire,The Roman Empire,the Persian Empire and more,not only Ottoman empire!non of them exists
011jaffa 5 months ago
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@011jaffa "but there is no more Ottoman Empire,it vanished!" "the Ottoman Empire?..Pooof !!! no more!"
get this in your head yeah? the greeks and persians don't matter cuz 1)they lost control of the land long before Israel and 2)they never settled the land, only conquered it. the inhabitants remained the same (Arabs) through the course of time. rulers changed but the people were still there. until Israelis came along and kicked them out.
moiz2468 5 months ago
@moiz2468
I don't think you should call @johnykalykaba a "dumbass" because you are the one! he is right! Archaeological findings confirm that the only people and country of what was called Palestine was ancient Israel and the nation in Israel was the Jews!!! you can look it up on the net and also on you tube if you are too lazy to read the Encyclopedia and history books!!!
011jaffa 5 months ago
@011jaffa so i'm sure that during the centuries of Ottoman rule, or as the guy in the video says, 1700 years of Jewish absence., the rest of the population just evaporated? there was no other country with the borders of Israel, but all of modern Israel fell under the rule of the Ottoman Empire, and there were indigenous Arabs living there before the Jews were sent there in their boats. if there had been no country there before Israel, you wouldn't have had to fight for it.
moiz2468 5 months ago
@moiz2468
First, not all Jews left Israel, many sprayed,another thing is that the Jews were a very small nation who could not fight huge empires!the Jewish absence from Israel was not their choice,but they always kept their Judaism,they prayed towards Jerusalem, and always dreamed to return to their homeland!If your(ignorant)logic would have been true,all the Arabs lands and lots of European countries Ottomans conquered belong to the Ottomans?but there is no more Ottoman Empire,it vanished!
011jaffa 5 months ago
@moiz2468
Do you also think that the Kurds don't deserve a country of their own? I think the do!...every nation should have their own country!!!
011jaffa 5 months ago
@011jaffa Thanks.
johnykalykaba 2 months ago
@moiz2468 Actually, according to your words there was no Palestine either. The Brits called the entire region Palestine which included Jordan. If you want a Palestinian state, go to Jordan. To conclude, this region had many names throughout history but Israel (old and new) was the only actual country during that time.
johnykalykaba 2 months ago
Mind you own business Mr. Galloway, what right do you have to judge other country?!
Fascist dirt bag!
Nobody granted Israel other peoples country...Ha? It is an historical fact that Israel is the homeland of the Jews!!!
Talking about the Arabs in the region called Palestine, Jews were absolutely massacred by the Arabs!!! The Mufti of Jerusalem, Arafat's uncle went to Hitler and asked him for help to wipe the Jews of Israel and kill them all! Learn history sir!!! you are an idiot liar moron!!!
011jaffa 6 months ago
@011jaffa more like a biblical fact. and it was the homeland of the Jews. they left it eventually.
moiz2468 5 months ago
@moiz2468
The Jews never left their homeland "eventually" by their own will! they were exiled by the Romans, but not all of them there where Jews who stayed and lived there for many many generations!...
011jaffa 5 months ago
There is no idea such as Intifada in Zionism/ Judaism. we came to Israel looking for refuge from the Holocaust and we were refused by the English and the surrounding Arabs ( except for a righteous few) attacked us. should we have just waited to be thrown into another Holocaust? we fought a defensive battle and won! read about the Hebron Massacre for example
tytuv 7 months ago
@tytuv nope.
CocaoTenPuff 6 months ago
I wouldn't say that Muslims have not persecuted Jews, but they HAVE BEEN better than fake Christian Roman Catholics and fake Christian Protestants.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo Gee, and that makes all the difference.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV All the difference to what? I'm not exculpating anyone.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo Of course you are. You're reluctantly admitting to Muslim murders of Jews and saying "well at least it wasn't as bad as what the Christians did". It's a mitigation. You should aim higher than that.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV "Of course you are." So admitting to Muslim people having persecuted Jews is exculpating them.... No. Implying that they persecuted is the opposite of exculpation. I was not reluctant to say that Muslims murdered, but to disagree with Galloway. You took it the wrong way. I'm not afraid of pointing out when people do wrong, or my own wrongs. And Galloway lost much of my respect since I made that comment. I've seen more videos of the guy I did not know existed 'til recently.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo You're mitigating what Muslims did to Jews by saying that what Christians did was worse when in fact what both did was wrong independently of each other. There's no need to mitigate via league table.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV Whenever anyone compares ANYTHING bad, to something worse, some doofus like you can come around and say: "HEY! You're making that bad thing look not-as-bad as the other thing!" DUH! It's compared to worse. It's inevitable that it looks less bad. I was not the decider of history; the Muslims who persecuted Jews, and the fake Christians who persecuted Jews (some of whom were fake Jews), decided that one would be less bad than the other. The truth is not anti-semitic, fool.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
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@AthosAmo @AthosAmo I can see by your ad hominem you know you've already lost this point. Historical facts don't decide moral points. One person being murdered is no better or worse than another person. Fake Christians? Is this another mitigation? Another attempt to distance Christianity from its crimes? Please tell me i'm not discussing this with a child because you sure as hell argue as one.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV Ad hominem is when a person is attacked instead of their argument. I didn't do that.
"One person being murdered is no better or worse than another person." Of course. But more Jews have been murdered by fake Christians than by Muslims, methinks.
A Christian is someone who obeys Jesus and repents when they don't. Roman Catholics perpetually disobey Jesus, particularly those committing the Inquisition and the Crusades. They are heretics. As are most Protestants.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo You called me a DOOFUS. Are you suffering from memory loss now? And please stop trying to distance Christian history from its crimes by labelling them fake - it's really morally repugnant.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV "You called me a DOOFUS. Are you suffering from memory loss now?" Let me repeat for you, hypocrite. The one who suffers from memory loss is YOU, for forgetting what I just said: "Ad hominem is when a person is attacked instead of their argument. I didn't do that." Do you know what "instead" means? If not, you're a DOOFUS.
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AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo You should really work for Galloway. Your talents at moral inversion are wasted on here.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV What do you know about morality, Zionazi, Palestinian murderer? As you point your finger at me, I point at the blood on the floor, dripping from it.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo OK you really have lost this. I point you not only to the millions of dead Arabs at the hands of their own governments but at all the Arabs today fighting for their very lives to have the exact same freedoms and rights their fellow Arabs have...in Israel. Game, set, and match to @DanielBerlinTV. But thanks for playing :)
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV I don't deny that Muslims massacre people. All right?
So you're saying that Israhell has the right to exist because it gives many rights to people, like the U.S. does? Well, ignoring the fact that there's much discrimination there by racist Zionists against dark-skinned, alleged Jews, Palestinians, and alleged Christians, your argument can be used by the English on the Native Americans. Were they justified in stealing the Natives' lands?
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo For someone who just justified the targeting of civilians by conveniently rewriting history, you really are in no position to lecture on human rights, discrimination and all the other words you only use when it suits you.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV You beg the question when you say that I am guilty of "rewriting history." You need to do better than that. Show it.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo You can't call a country that was democratically elected into existence by other countries an occupier because it means all the countries that weren't democratically created by world vote are occupiers even more, which includes all the Arab states you love so much.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV Who says I love "the Arab states." I love Arabs, and Jews. I don't like Zionist governments NOR Muslim governments, but the former is worse, because it brings the name of the Jews into disrepute, and is the manifestation of Jewish rebellion against their God.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV No European powers had the right to make Israhell happen. Britain had no right to the land, so giving it away to European "Jews," primarily Ashkenazim, was unwarranted.
Don't act like your imperialist, European invasion and colonization was a "democratic" thing. Why didn't the inhabitants of the Holy Land get a vote? Rich foreigners decided the fate of the poor inhabitants, fool!
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo You didn't attack my argument, you made a real piss poor attempt at that. Instead you called me a doofus in an even weaker attempt to cover up how weak your points are. That is ad hominem - an attack of the person.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV No. An ad hominem isn't merely "an attack of the person." Otherwise, you are guilty of it by your own standard, DOOFUS. You''ve attacked me, too.
And implying that I'm anti-semitic certainly qualifies as one if any attacks by me do.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV "And please stop trying to distance Christian history from its crimes by labelling them fake - it's really morally repugnant." Now you have chosen to outright LIE. Slanderer. I NEVER said that crimes by alleged Christians were fake. NEVER! What I said, was that the alleged Christians were fake. Jesus said to love your enemies. Roman Catholic Crusaders and Inquisitors obviously did not. And they persecuted God's chosen people, for crying out loud! So of course they're fake.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo Whether you agree with each individual church is irrelevant to the phenomenon of Jew hatred across Christendom. You calling such Christians fake therefore is either irrelevant to the discussion or a ploy by you to say "that's not true Christianity" - when any reading of the NT shows it's vehemently anti-Jewish.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV You conveniently regard mass murderers like Crusader popes to be true Christians, because you are an atheist who hates religions. And many of the religious, it seems. Define Christian.
The most "anti-Jewish" book is the Old Testament, which calls the Jews a "stiff-necked people" who deserve to die and who are not good enough for God, as no one can be. You resort to slander because you can't defend the existence of the illegal polity Israhell.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo It's not whether someone is a true X or Y in your opinion, it's whether they purport to be an X or Y. With all the Jew hatred in the source of Christianity, the NT, it matters not if you think such Christians are real or fake. You misquote the OT. Altho desert psychopath "god" calls Israelites stiff-necked and nothing special, they're the only people willing to keep his laws. That's as true today as it was then if Paul is anything to go by. This is off topic btw.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
Numbers 16: 41-45: The next day the whole Israelite community grumbled against Moses and Aaron. “You have killed the LORD’s people,” they said. But when the assembly gathered in opposition to Moses and Aaron and turned toward the tent of meeting, suddenly the cloud covered it and the glory of the LORD appeared. Then Moses and Aaron went to the front of the tent of meeting, and the LORD said to Moses, “Get away from this assembly so I can put an end to them at once.” And they fell facedown.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo wow a snippet of the bible taken out of its textual and historical and religious context. You wouldn't be a Christian by any chance would you?
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
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@DanielBerlinTV What a loser. If I quoted the whole book of Numbers, you would still say: "You're taking out of context." Show me how the context changes the fact that the Old Testament is "anti-Jewish" there. God loves the Jews, but he punishes them when they sin just as he punishes any other people when THEY sin.
I love the Jews. You want to portray me as anti-semitic, because you can't beat my arguments.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
We could claim the crimes committed by Communists is not true Communism. At some point those we know them by their fruits. As a defender of the evil that is religion, you should be familiar with who is purported to have said that.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV By the way, you seem to be defending the "Jews," so I want to ask YOU: are you a Zionist? If so, you are not only defending many (but not all) murders of Palestinians (and others) for the "defence" of Israhell, which is an illegal occupier; you are guilty of the same by being an accomplice, as a defender of Zionism, which makes such murders inevitable.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo Great moral inversion there and very wishful thinking on your part - it requires no response from me. By your logic all Germans during WW2 were Nazis by default. You can see where that's ludicrous as being in support of some things doesnt mean you support all of it, except when the word Jew gets mentioned you become blinkered. Have you ever wondered why? Illegal is such a devalued word today thanks to people like you and Galloway.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV You are ignorant of history if you think that all Germans were either Nazis or accomplices to Hitler. "-it requires no response from me." Great defence there! Begging the question!
Why don't you explain how the Europeans' taking control of the Holy Land is not wrong? Because it can't be defended well, since it's patent wickedness.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo Great so now you see how not all Zionists are defenders of the Israeli government and not all defenders of Israel are necessarily Zionists. We got somewhere. Your "you're a Zionist therefore an accomplice of the Israeli gov't action" was childish to say the least.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV A Zionist, by definition, supports the existence of the current illegitimate state that calls itself "Israel," which, as I said, makes murders of Palestinians inevitable. You seem to be saying that since you disagree with certain policies of the Israeli govenment, that you are innocent of any crimes of Israel. Well, the issue is not about the Netanyahu team, or what have you. The issue is your condoning of the occupation AT ALL. If you do, then you have blood on your hands.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo A new day, a new moral inversion. LIkewise your call for a smaller, weaker or non-existent Israel leaves Jewish civilian blood on your hands. Much of the Palestinian cause you support targets Israeli civilians with the full intention of murdering them. Stop reading the Hamas Charter and use it for all it's good for: toilet paper.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
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@DanielBerlinTV "LIkewise your call for a smaller, weaker or non-existent Israel leaves Jewish civilian blood on your hands." All I said was that the illegal occupation meant inevitable murders, and you think that I am guilty of Jewish blood because I say that? How about this one: the illegal theft of America by Europe meant inevitable murders. Now, are you going to be consistent and accuse me of European blood because I say that?
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AthosAmo 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV You accuse me of having "Jewish civilian blood" on my hands. Who are the civilians? Occupiers. Only the children and the literally retarded are innocent if they die there, because the rest of the Zionists there are accomplices to the occupation, being ILLEGAL OCCUPIERS themselves. They're not innocent. And when small children of Zionists die (which is a # far less than small Palestinian kids' deaths), it's the adult Zionists' fault for having risked their lives by living there.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo It's also obvious that in a world where 11 million Arabs can be murdered off by Arab regimes in less time than Israel has existed, your obsession with Israel has something pathological about it. It's almost as if Israel fulfils certain needs of your own...
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV My obsession with Israel is to be expected, since I'm Christian. I used to be a Zionist as late as '08 because I had thought that since the Holy Land belongs to the Jews, that they have the right to it, and that their return to it is the fulfillment of prophecies. Indeed it fulfills some. But when I learned about the Neturei Karta, I questioned my position. I now know that the second exile was due to the rejection of Jesus, so as long as Jews reject him, they forfeit the land.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo Cue the Twilight Zone music - there's a Christian online.... Oh dear, you must really struggle with the archaeology then that shows significantly that your "god" was man-made. Israel has more right to exist than most other countries: it's one of the few that was democratically created by the whole world. Not your invisible sky daddy psychopath, but the human race at the UN.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV Listen, stupid atheist who acts as if he's not another evil Zionist with blood on his hands. For you to reject all of the supernatural is to embrace the only alternative to account for the origin of the great order in nature: ACCIDENTS. Your creator-gods are Accidenthor and Accidenthena. Only an idiiot would believe that DNA and the rest of the greatly ordered things in the Cosmos were ACCIDENTALLY formed. i.e. without any intention involved.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo So your true motive against Israel not really being Palestinian rights and your new ad hominem against me aside, which scientist says any of it was purely accidental, and what has the creation of the universe got to do the diversity of life on this planet? Evolution explains life with evidence. You've created an infinite regress: who created the creator? It'd have to be something or someone greater than god by your "logic".
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV I have several reasons to hate Zionism. I have religious reasons, which overlap with my caring for others, no matter who they are. I committed no ad hominem. I didn't say that scientists say -with the exact words- that DNA and the like were purely accidental. Most scientists who fall for the myth you buy into don't want their myth to sound bad, so they don't call it one of accidents, though it is. Common descent of species is unfalsifiable, so it is unscientific.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo Also it's not very intelligent to beg a question with "god done it" - apart from being intellectually lazy, it's also been demonstrably shown that god was man-made.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV My argument for the supernatural is simple: accidents always destroy the little order they create, never reaching the heights. For example, erosion. It can never create something as orderly as Michelangelo's David, no matter how much time is given. The David is nothing compared to DNA and a cell.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo Great - you just created an infinite regress: who/what created the creator?
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV As if I haven't heard that one before. The supernatural creator is not subject to the physical laws he established. Neither is he something within nature. He is SUPERnatural; above the natural.
You keep failing as long as you can't falsify common descent, with a scenario.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo to create the supernatural to prove the natural explains nothing about the natural. what created the supernatural? you mean this invisible sky daddy sat with nothing for billions of years until one day he thought "ya know what i'm a gunna create some shit. yeah dat be about right. let dere be light!" hmm.. please tell me you're not still in kindergarten.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV Asking for the origin of the SUPER/NON-natural Creator is assuming that the supernatural is just like the natural, needing an ultimate explanation. It doesn't.
You shouldn't describe yourself as "shit," though your words amount to it.
I see you are shamelessly committing ad hominem fallacies left and right, atheist fool.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo oh how convenient - the supernatural doesn't need an explanation - a cause - a reason to exist - but the natural does and somehow illogically that explanation is the supernatural - you're getting circular now.
Please, your ad hominem is always priceless, don't stop on my behalf :)
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV Accidents can't create DNA. Only intelligence can. By rejecting intelligence, you choose stupidity.
Why does the supernatural have to have cause and effect? It's not the natural! Deal with it.
You know what, you must be trolling me.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo um do you know what DNA is? do you know what chemistry is? DNA can be created all on its own without any intelligent input. But that's science, not religion so you're not interested in that.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV You don't get it, atheist. You beg the question, since DNA replication is possible only with existing DNA. You need to explain the origin of the first DNA, but you can't do that, fool.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo there are several explanations and very reliable sources - "god done it d'oh" ain't one of them.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV That's a strawman FALLACY, stupid atheist.
Falsify common descent with a scenario, and I'll respond to you. Zionazi coward.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo no go read normative authentic science - it's not my job to educate you - you confessed to your anti-Israel bias being religiously motivated and your anti-science bias is similarly motivated. You have the issue here, not science.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
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@DanielBerlinTV "That's an argument from authority FALLACY, stupid atheist.
Falsify common descent with a scenario, and I'll respond to you with something new besides this."
It's pretty clear you can't do it. Since you have been asked it so many times, yet turned a blind eye to it.
You turn a blind eye to the truth.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo you're beggin your own circular reasoning now - this really is priceless.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV Well, I'm done with you. Unless you attempt to falsify the theory that needs to be falsifiable for it to be SCIENTIFIC. No deluded atheist idiot like you has ever been able, or will ever be able, to do it.
You're worse than most of your fellow brethren. You Palestinian murdering, Science polluting imbecile.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo more slew of ad hominem - did i mention they reveal you have no evidence and no point to make?
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@AthosAmo The fact that you find science and its conclusions hard to accept tells us everything we need to know about you - it tells us nothing about the true nature & history of the universe. Alternatively, I doubt if there were a god (and there demonstrably isn't) that he'd create all this just so the Pope can tell people not to jerk off.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV You beg the question that it is real science you defend. You cannot falsify common descent of species, sucker! So it is unscientific. The establishment is guilty of a double standard.
I'm not a Roman Caatholic, as should be clear from previous comments of mine, condemning that heretical group.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo um apart from the 200,000 pieces of evidence and the genetic evidence.... apart from that stacked against you - keep on deluding yourself.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV Evidence is INTERPRETED, moron. Stop begging the question. It's a logical FALLACY atheists are wont to do.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo oh dear you really know nothing about genetics do you?
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV Falsify common descent of species with a scenario already, science polluter.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo yeah it's plain to see why people such as Dawkins refer to people like you as delusional.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV You're a coward who is incapable -like all other science-polluting atheists- of falsifying common descent of species with a scenario. Since you can't do it, it shows how unscientific the "theory" of "evolution" is.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo except the theory of evolution has over 200,000 pieces of evidence, genetics, and can be demonstrated in the lab. Science also proves god was man-made.
Your man-made desert psychopath "god" has 0 evidence it is some super-natural being. It's only supernatural because you believe it so and that settles it right? D.E.L.U.S.I.O.N.A.L.
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago
@DanielBerlinTV Macro-evolution can't be demonstrated anywhere except in your imagination. Micro-evolution is true, however.
"Science also proves god was man-made." You're a delusional hypocrite, and a Zionazi who fails at 1. defending your Zionist crimes/the Zionist state, 2. Science. You are incapable of falsifying what must be falsifiable to be a scientific theory. 3. Life. You are an evil fool who deserves to get shot by Hamas.
AthosAmo 7 months ago
@AthosAmo um sorry - macro-evolution is the result of micro-evolution - they're part of the same system - where you have micro-evolution you have a macro-evolutionary effect. You really need to read some science. It's painful to watch you #Fail like that but amusing at the same time lol.
As for your religion fetish:
j . mp / m0n0theism
Watch it & stop talking to yourself (praying).
DanielBerlinTV 7 months ago