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Are Void Rays or Immortals better against Ultralisks? Lots of times when I go into a 3 Gate FE then the Zerg always go for a Kraken Build (Speedlings, Ultralisks, Infestors, and Brood Lords.
@navrozlal ultralisks cant attack air. so voids have no chance of dying vs ultras. if you want to know what would kill an ultralisk faster. a void or an immortal. a void ray would win. the immortal would die quicker.
@navrozlal "Are Void Rays or Immortals better against Ultralisks? Lots of times when I go into a 3 Gate FE then the Zerg always go for a Kraken Build (Speedlings, Ultralisks, Infestors, and Brood Lords. "
3 of those have nothing able to target void rays so uh yeah, voids :P
this build will NOT save you from a 7 roach rush. Just so everyone is aware, a 7 roach rush will usually hit your ramp at about the 5 minute mark. At 4:50 this player didn't even have his first sentry out yet. 1 forcefield will not hold off 7 roachs for very long when you have a zealot sentry and stalker. jesus.
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thanks alot force! im using this build alot in my gold league. i found out that instead going for colossi, going for mothership is amazingly strong too. people don't expect cloak around 15 minutes, so i won alot of games with it.
After watching this replay and cast; I played a custom game with a diamond play that I did not know was Diamond. I won using lots of stalker, sentry and gollys and some immortals. I ended up wining! I know leagues and ranks don't matter, but for me to beat any diamond player being bronze I was very happy sentry Force field rocks as a skill! My opponent was Terran. I am not saying this because I think I am really any good, however I think since watching Forces videos I have gotten a lot better!
@ZipArray if u wanna win every single game cannon rush behind mineral line and make 4 gates and start warping stalkers in his base since u already have pylons in his base. People get to grandmaster like this.
i love ur vids but recently you haven't been following with the camera when u talk sometimes so pleasse follow the units and such. but seriously best starcraft you tube channel. keep it up!!1
@ForceSC2strategy when he has so much mineals in plus at 4:00, why doesn't he build a forge to protect his base with some cannons? I mean, he cannot be sure that there is no buried roach or Mutalisk eco-attack coming soon, and even against zerglings its a good blocker/ time creeper.
@EmeraldEchelon I agree, get's predictable sometimes, granted you answer with a strategy to defend and counter, but I like playing late/end game with "the big guns."
I dont understand why he GG'd He was working off 4 bases. All he had to do was tech to Broodlords or Ultralisks to run past the force fields and go roach or hydra. But awesome tutorial. Great commentator
@lidochris Broodlords and Ultras both get owned by Void Rays. ANd if you're going brood lords/ultralisks then you're not going to have a lot of gas left over for mutas/hydras.
quick question force, how do you force field correctly. Let's say you want to chain some FF to divide an army in 2. Is that done by pressing F repeatedly or by shift clicking? I've tried to shift click but sentrys seem to put that on a queue after attack...
The forcefields can't really be queued because of the smartcast mechanism in place for the skill - it'll only have one cast to maximise the use of energy even with multiple sentries. Best to manually cast it because you can override that mechanism then.
@hi9880 a lot of options. 2 exp is 600 minerals. and if he saturates them fully its 90 workers. which he cannot afford because he wont have any attacking units then. a timing attack is very powerful, attacking exactly when number 3 is done. either destroying it or reducing the enemys army size. if you reduce a zerg players army size he cant produce workers and then he has a hatchery for decoration.
@HDErikBlog o ok what happens if he pins you with mutas D: then he just goes out of control and you die by being out macroed that's what I do as zerg any way im in plat so all my opinions are from plat players.
@centercity1 ya In the lower shit leagues, but who cares about that. look at the gsl 3 terrans and one protoss in it and the jinro only made it there because he didnt face terrans. All the zergs got beat out by terran cheesy shit
the problem is on very large maps there is usually only chokes around your base, so moving out and expanding against a zerg is very hard as these forcefeild arent effective enough, while the zerg can expans at will, should i continue to adopt this sentury build or change my tatic compleatly? (on a large map)
@sTressICK I'd say <10 min is early game 10-20 min is mid game and 20min + is late game. By the 20min mark end-game units start popping out..like the HTs, Ultras etc..
humm im wondering cant you do sentry harass get a warp prism warp in a couple of sentries forcefield mineral patches to block mining from gas or minerals and then just pick them up and run away
@skaptiben Not really worth the expense. Better to warp in a zealot or two and just kill however many probes you can or force them to stop mining for a few. Much less investment for the same amount of damage.
i just realized why people would use their scouting probe to take a chunk of the opponent's minerals. its 2 things. one is u get to steal a sweet 5 minerals lol. and the other thing is instead of right clicking on a mineral patch when surrounded or stuck by units attacking it, u can just press c to phase through and return to base
Im from the future where its patch 2.0.1 and the Force field is two times smaller causing sentries to throw down 2 force fields on ramps to fully block it.
i just realized with perfect micro your stalkers and sentries can beat anything! blink micro and forcefield placements! imagine it!
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MickieMelendez71 7 months ago
Force Field OP´ness LOL
12345DJay 7 months ago
Are Void Rays or Immortals better against Ultralisks? Lots of times when I go into a 3 Gate FE then the Zerg always go for a Kraken Build (Speedlings, Ultralisks, Infestors, and Brood Lords.
navrozlal 8 months ago
@navrozlal ......... voids, obviously.
KryptonDubs 8 months ago
@KryptonDubs You sure? 'Cause Immortals have a higher DPS.
navrozlal 8 months ago
@navrozlal ultralisks cant attack air. so voids have no chance of dying vs ultras. if you want to know what would kill an ultralisk faster. a void or an immortal. a void ray would win. the immortal would die quicker.
KryptonDubs 8 months ago
@KryptonDubs Ahhhhhh.
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@navrozlal "Are Void Rays or Immortals better against Ultralisks? Lots of times when I go into a 3 Gate FE then the Zerg always go for a Kraken Build (Speedlings, Ultralisks, Infestors, and Brood Lords. "
3 of those have nothing able to target void rays so uh yeah, voids :P
Adeon55 8 months ago in playlist SCII
Hey Force, how good are force fields again? I don't think you've made your point yet ;)
benben829 1 year ago
wait so force fields are gewd???!!11!!1
therealinus 1 year ago
Nice Video =) keep on doing strategy videos.They help me a lot.
Ripkin194 1 year ago
drifting zealot at 02:46
wasabay 1 year ago
this build will NOT save you from a 7 roach rush. Just so everyone is aware, a 7 roach rush will usually hit your ramp at about the 5 minute mark. At 4:50 this player didn't even have his first sentry out yet. 1 forcefield will not hold off 7 roachs for very long when you have a zealot sentry and stalker. jesus.
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I hate these ads that load 10x slower than the actual video
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jchase1970 1 year ago
thanks alot force! im using this build alot in my gold league. i found out that instead going for colossi, going for mothership is amazingly strong too. people don't expect cloak around 15 minutes, so i won alot of games with it.
josener26 1 year ago
Force looks at the power of the dark side of the Force....field in this vid.
exhebetche 1 year ago
After watching this replay and cast; I played a custom game with a diamond play that I did not know was Diamond. I won using lots of stalker, sentry and gollys and some immortals. I ended up wining! I know leagues and ranks don't matter, but for me to beat any diamond player being bronze I was very happy sentry Force field rocks as a skill! My opponent was Terran. I am not saying this because I think I am really any good, however I think since watching Forces videos I have gotten a lot better!
ZipArray 1 year ago 19
@ZipArray lol plz dont rage on me, but whats a golly :P
lambhunter0 9 months ago
@ZipArray if u wanna win every single game cannon rush behind mineral line and make 4 gates and start warping stalkers in his base since u already have pylons in his base. People get to grandmaster like this.
ThePsionicMatrixTM 1 month ago
i love ur vids but recently you haven't been following with the camera when u talk sometimes so pleasse follow the units and such. but seriously best starcraft you tube channel. keep it up!!1
StfuSiriusly 1 year ago
@ForceSC2strategy when he has so much mineals in plus at 4:00, why doesn't he build a forge to protect his base with some cannons? I mean, he cannot be sure that there is no buried roach or Mutalisk eco-attack coming soon, and even against zerglings its a good blocker/ time creeper.
romanoswestwood 1 year ago
can I ask how do you get the HP bars up consantly?
JasonnBaiin 1 year ago
@JasonnBaiin It's found in game options
Firebert16 1 year ago
I love the late game.. Getting attacked after 3 minutes is kind of lame
EmeraldEchelon 1 year ago
@EmeraldEchelon I agree, get's predictable sometimes, granted you answer with a strategy to defend and counter, but I like playing late/end game with "the big guns."
SeoulMan 1 year ago
OMG IT FINALLY HAPPENED 13:39 force said "UN"fortunate instead of Misfortunate!
Zmapes89 1 year ago
Great video, I always have trouble playing PvZ and I think this will help a ton.
IFrapAllDay 1 year ago
I dont understand why he GG'd He was working off 4 bases. All he had to do was tech to Broodlords or Ultralisks to run past the force fields and go roach or hydra. But awesome tutorial. Great commentator
lidochris 1 year ago
@lidochris Broodlords and Ultras both get owned by Void Rays. ANd if you're going brood lords/ultralisks then you're not going to have a lot of gas left over for mutas/hydras.
gimplar 1 year ago
quick question force, how do you force field correctly. Let's say you want to chain some FF to divide an army in 2. Is that done by pressing F repeatedly or by shift clicking? I've tried to shift click but sentrys seem to put that on a queue after attack...
TheProseph 1 year ago
@TheProseph
The forcefields can't really be queued because of the smartcast mechanism in place for the skill - it'll only have one cast to maximise the use of energy even with multiple sentries. Best to manually cast it because you can override that mechanism then.
Psychol0gist 1 year ago
what happens if he gets a fast 3rd
hi9880 1 year ago
@hi9880 a lot of options. 2 exp is 600 minerals. and if he saturates them fully its 90 workers. which he cannot afford because he wont have any attacking units then. a timing attack is very powerful, attacking exactly when number 3 is done. either destroying it or reducing the enemys army size. if you reduce a zerg players army size he cant produce workers and then he has a hatchery for decoration.
HDErikBlog 1 year ago
@HDErikBlog o ok what happens if he pins you with mutas D: then he just goes out of control and you die by being out macroed that's what I do as zerg any way im in plat so all my opinions are from plat players.
hi9880 1 year ago
@hi9880 like he said, macro up more.
oliveboyzz 1 year ago
@oliveboyzz zerg would just out macro you would die before you could even get a 3rd D:
hi9880 1 year ago
P is op
centercity1 1 year ago
@centercity1 no zerg is op that's why the pros play it
hi9880 1 year ago
@hi9880 Pros play every race...
Kanarfka 1 year ago
@Kanarfka i know most pros play zerg because its op spreading creep mutas doom drops its op
hi9880 1 year ago
@centercity1 If a race was truly OP Blizz would make drastic changes to weaken them
Gertofius1 1 year ago
@Gertofius1 as of right now 60% of games are won by protos
centercity1 1 year ago
@centercity1 ya In the lower shit leagues, but who cares about that. look at the gsl 3 terrans and one protoss in it and the jinro only made it there because he didnt face terrans. All the zergs got beat out by terran cheesy shit
aarchas 1 year ago
@aarchas "but who cares about that" most people tha play the game ARE in that league... that's who
only fanboys without a life get to the higher top leagues, I couldn't give two shits what the top players do and most players don't give a shit,
top players play this game like its a job, I only play for fun
centercity1 1 year ago
@centercity1 lmao tell that to 1/3 of the Korean population
aarchas 1 year ago
@centercity1 if you posted this on team liquid you would get endless rage.
rawrnomnomnomgrrrrrr 1 year ago
Nice match :)
good strategy, too.
xNucL3aRx 1 year ago
wow that was pretty good
ragtimest 1 year ago
Thanks for the vids ,Force!
MrFaireman 1 year ago
mass sentries@!#$@4
kingwolf555 1 year ago
i wanna see a mass sentries bulid!
ZeWitchKid 1 year ago 11
the problem is on very large maps there is usually only chokes around your base, so moving out and expanding against a zerg is very hard as these forcefeild arent effective enough, while the zerg can expans at will, should i continue to adopt this sentury build or change my tatic compleatly? (on a large map)
brandonpringle16 1 year ago
Can someone here tell me how he put an overlay on is screen ?
Veltonar 1 year ago
@Veltonar I used Sony Vegas to put overlays on my videos. Not sure if he uses Sony Vegas though.
AmbientReplays 1 year ago
20 minutes isnt late game dude
sTressICK 1 year ago
@sTressICK yes it is
SgtPepper1548 1 year ago
@sTressICK I'd say <10 min is early game 10-20 min is mid game and 20min + is late game. By the 20min mark end-game units start popping out..like the HTs, Ultras etc..
gimplar 1 year ago
@gimplar is that irl time or starcraft time?
ilandelle 1 year ago
I've had several games last over an hour long.
squirrel17404p 1 year ago
hallucination is the best thingey ever, sentries are beast
brennanww 1 year ago
what about the second pylon supply?
tugarados 1 year ago
humm im wondering cant you do sentry harass get a warp prism warp in a couple of sentries forcefield mineral patches to block mining from gas or minerals and then just pick them up and run away
skaptiben 1 year ago
@skaptiben Not really worth the expense. Better to warp in a zealot or two and just kill however many probes you can or force them to stop mining for a few. Much less investment for the same amount of damage.
headies07 1 year ago
@skaptiben By the time you have a couple of sentries and a warp prism the zerg player will have mutas or hydras..which will wreck your drop.
Sentries cost 50min/100 gas, robotics facility costs 150 gas 200min and warp prism costs 200min.
So for a 4 sentry drop it costs 600min/550gas...and you'll probably get spanked.
If you want early pressure just 2-gate rush or korean warp-gate them. Makes much more sense.
gimplar 1 year ago
i just realized why people would use their scouting probe to take a chunk of the opponent's minerals. its 2 things. one is u get to steal a sweet 5 minerals lol. and the other thing is instead of right clicking on a mineral patch when surrounded or stuck by units attacking it, u can just press c to phase through and return to base
hahaidontcarexP 1 year ago 2
@hahaidontcarexP Aaaaah thanks! :D
CopperStarcraft 1 year ago
Force Field = OP
discuss!
gringo533 1 year ago
@gringo533 no i wont discuss this
Thoomash1 1 year ago
@gringo533 whats op ?
DiLamee 1 year ago
@DiLamee Over Powered.
xluryan 1 year ago
@xluryan k thanks
DiLamee 1 year ago
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Does this build rely on pushing to the late game, or would it be possible to do a timing attack?
RandomGlass 1 year ago
Does this build rely on pushing to the late game, or would it be possible to do a timing attack?
RandomGlass 1 year ago
Another great commentary on SC2 gameplay. Thumbs up for you buddy, always a pleasure watching your vids.
aco1224 1 year ago
dude this is awesome, this protos player has the mentality and stamina to maintain the "environment"
brackpersian 1 year ago
Im from the future where its patch 2.0.1 and the Force field is two times smaller causing sentries to throw down 2 force fields on ramps to fully block it.
Yoonjin90 1 year ago
@Yoonjin90 I don't wanna live in your future=(
Taiki1234 1 year ago 2
@Yoonjin90 hi future man. please tell me marauders costs twice as much to make as well!
84xennion 1 year ago
surprised the zerg player never harassed with mutas
twhittick 1 year ago 2
@twhittick me2..
stoiberbund 1 year ago
very nice guide
wallahaa 1 year ago
hm i love watching these evn tho i have never played star craft :D
phur3i0n 1 year ago
CLICK ME TO SKIP ADDS! 0:01 Thumbs up. ;)
FoRealJuggalos 1 year ago
@FoRealJuggalos
That doesnt work, dumbass
sup4567890 1 year ago
dont u think the zerg gg'd kinda early?
sebachan 1 year ago
@sebachan No, he needed hive tech badly and would have been mining off of only one base.
Jobob501 1 year ago
@sebachan after that last expo goes down the zerg is down to two bases vs 3 base toss no point
Joesterisk 1 year ago
In the Title, what does "FE" mean
Dez88Bryant 1 year ago
@Dez88Bryant fast expand = FE
weasle109 1 year ago
@weasle109 thanks
Dez88Bryant 1 year ago
@Dez88Bryant Fast Expansion
Jobob501 1 year ago
@Jobob501 Thanks
Dez88Bryant 1 year ago
Thanks Force, I'm a Protoss Man myself, since the 'Toss are awesome
Dez88Bryant 1 year ago