They owe us Welsh big time!! They tried to stop everyone from speaking Welsh in WALES, dumb idiots, by passing a law in 1847 "Royal Commission". Welsh was spoken before English was ever a language.
@Blackfriday420 I said ALL the countries not 2 :) Also the guy leading this whole thing dosn't even go about it in a proffesional manner but acts like a ten year old taking the piss out of another country. Also all the great things that britain has gave the worl pretty much pays the price. The man leading this says it's britains fault global warmings happening because of the industrial period :/ but if he's traced thing back like that then guess what? I've traced back things even further...
@Blackfriday420 If Rome never went to Britain then alot of the things Britain done would have happened, for instance the industrial period. So if he wants to track things back then il track back even further :) feel free to aurgue, but before you do, don't argue a pointless argument with no logic placed behind. If you still feel you can prove me wrong then go a head, explain...
@JammyBullet1 I was just joking, of course the British owe no one reparations. There is certain people in society who feel the need to blame all there problems on someone else. It's just like the African Americans wanting reparations, even though they were never personally slaves and the white people alive today have never slaves. It's just people wanting handouts for absolutely no real reason.
@BasilFawlty4444 fair enuff, but still the country would have been different and changed the events of time. By the way when the guy behind this was confronted about the Romans he didn't even deny it and just went on to say how it's not just the British but europeans in general.
you do realize that scotland, wales and northern Ireland are all part of the UK, and are as much to blame for the british empire as just england. there is a difference between england and Britain and the UK!
lol i love how it says no english man women or child will get paid, considering the population of america are considerably decendants, no money for you then
@Curt1233brit yes, but I believe ( god I hope so) that it is a bunch of bullshit.. It does nothing but bait more Yank bashing, while insulting England. . And Im so weary of that.
yeah take money off british citzens who donate to charity for good cause like malaria and ohh wait an american wants a poney, ahh well we will pay for that then, FUCK WHIT AMERICANS NEED TO LEARN THAT THE WOLRD WORKS AROUND VIOLENCE, I MEAN THAT HOW YOU WIPED THE NATIVES NEARLY COMPLETLY OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH
lol ok we pay this, how about america gives west USA to the natives, compensates for the trama in vietnam ( Babys still being born deformed because of chemical weapons) and the My lai massacre. Also while hwere here lets make the germans pay for killing 6 million jews , give it to isreal. Make the spainish pay the entire continet of south america. see how fucking down sydrome this causes is, it highlights the worst thing in history, its history, as in in the past not now you fucking nobs
everybodies getting paid? Ha not a penny of my moneys going to u dumbasses. Steven A Grasse uv made a big mistake. U will be looking over your shoulder for the rest of your shitty fucked up in the head life.
This is getting to racist agaist the English now, i'm calling barack obama, Hang on he might also want $8000 dolllars lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll FUCK ME KID GET A FUCKING LIFE AND A JOB WHILE YOUR AT IT, YOU TIT
Of course, all this came at the cost of all political independence and self determination for Indians themselves.However,it should be pointed out that the native Indians had lost this some 250 years before the expansion of British power to the invading Mughals, a Mongol Muslim dynasty from Persia.
The rule of Britain was far less of an imposition, and far more beneficial to India and Indians, than the despotic rule of the Mughals had even been.
I tell you what. On a personal level, I've met Persians, and most have treated me like a cousin or a long lost brother. They were a sister civilization to India. There was no threat from that quarter.
Infact long before the British imposed their rule over India, it was Persian that was the language of diplomacy, poetry and of high society.
What did I just finish tell you? The Persians and even the Afghans werel ike out relatives.
As for the Mughal Empire, its destruction was a foregone conclusion, but eventually another strong Indian dynasty would of risen up and established its own hegemony.
As for the French, they were in India at the time and they really weren't as bad as the British. I have been to Pondicherry, have you??
(5) continuous warfare between rival shifting states
(f) mutual assention of the States into a union
The Brits gave India democracy, a canal system in Punjab, a railway network, common law, [Madras, New Delhi, Calcutta, Mumbai among other cities], English, Unity (despite your assertion to the contrary), and deliverence from Feudal rule (also despite your assertion to the contrary)
No they didn't. The British never gave India democracy. That is a fallacy.
The British Raj was a dictatorship, pure and simple. And everytime the Indians wanted Dominion status which would give them self-rule and democracy, guys like Churchill refused. Y'all were never about democracy, so who are we really fooling?
The only thing that y'all can legitimately brag about are the rail ways which were paid for by the Indian tax payer.
Oh I don't know. That's what happened in Britain. Your railways were built by private enterprise. Y'all certainly did not go the tax & spend route in your home country.
rudeydudey, what are you talking about deliverance from feudal rule?? Do you hear the bull shit coming out of your mouth?
In 1947 there were hundreds of FEUDAL states that were around because they had been allied to the British. The only feudal kingdoms y'all took out were the ones that were pro-French or pro-Dutch or Pro-Portuguese or that fought against you for their independence.
You did nothing to defeat feudalism. You kept it around because there were feudal lords who go along with your rule. Power politics pure and simple. Don't get all idealistic here.
Over the centuries, India had suffered invasion, conquest, and wars between rival states within the subcontinent itself.Once the British had taken over,there were no more invasions, and no more internal wars.This made life much safer and stable for everyone.
rudeydudey, when the Mughals ruled in their prime there was poltiical and economic security.
Even during the reign of Aurangzeb, it was estimated that India had 20-25% of the world economy which made them the largest economy in the world at the time!!!
When the British left India in 1947, India's share of the world economy was 4%!!!!
The Mughals, Marathas, and so on were despots - they did as they pleased and ruled arbitrarily, law and justice being haphazard and often administered by whim. The British introduced laws that were the same for everyone, and, on the whole, upheld and enforced them.
Nope. The Mughals has a system of law and order. And except for the reign of Aurangzeb, the Mughals were religiously tolerant. Infact many many Hindus went on to be generals and court advisors in the old Mughal Empire.
Infact the Mughals even had a system of civil servants and bureaucrats that administered the Empire.
Britain provided Job opportunities leading to self betterment.
Ordinary Indians could better themselves by joining the army, working in the administration, or get jobs as servants to British families and administrators. Rich Indians sometimes sent their sons to Britain for their education.Gandhi qualified as lawyer through studying in England.
If Britain really want to provide for betterment, why didn't they do more in education?? Here's another factoid for ya. According to a UNESCO study on the history of literacy in India, literacy rates among adults in 1947 at the end of British rule was 18%. You call this betterment and opportunity?!!
Doesn't matter. Y'all go on and on about how you created a modern state and did so much for the Indians. How y'all were supposedly better than the successor Republican government.
The British built roads, railways, schools, hospitals, vital buildings of infrastucture even built most of the cities in India. Which are the life blood of modern India.
What has America done for India? apart from make things worse by allowing Firms like Microsoft and Intel taking advantage of cheap (Slave) labour.
Oh and rudeydudey, the railways were paid for through taxation of the Indian farmers and farm laborers. Y'all didn't give shit. The bill was footed by the Indians. Meanwhile in Britain, your railways were built through private enterprise.
As for colleges in a list of the best universities in the world back in 2006, the three Indian universities on the list were all built AFTER independence.
All Indians paid a Land Tax.Under the Mughals and other native regimes, this was often increased arbitrarily when the ruler needed extra money for some purpose.This often caused want and even famine for millions of ordinary Indians. Although the British continued to collect the Land Tax, they left it at the same rate, providing economic stability.
Y'all collected taxes by other means. What about the salt tax? ehh?
And by the way, when a famine occured in the late 1600s, the Mughal Emperor Shah Jahan ordered that the granaries be opened and that food be distributed among those afflicted.
Britain put an End of 'barbarous' religious practices.
Both suttee - the practice whereby Hindu widows were forced to burn themselves to death on their husband's funeral pyres, and Thugee, the ritual murder of travellers in worship of the goddess Kali, were stamped out by the British, saving literally millions of lives over the nearly 200 years of British rule.
oh please, rudeydudey, don't give me this. millions more men, women and children died during the many, many famines that broke out during the late 1800s. In the 1943 Bengal famine alone, 6 million Indians died. What the British administrators do to alleviate these famines and save lives? Absolutely nothing. Barbarous, don't you think? Didn't come across that fact in your travels over there, did you?
do you invisage people eating feasts and having large manor houses, if i said people never starved in us before the newdeal would you disagree, that was nothing to britains starvation
I like the way speaker interchanges British to English. Last i checked it was the British Empire and not just a English one.
This should be a warning to any country thinking of becoming allies or friends with America, just like judas they will stab you in the back for a few bucks.
But our gov will continue to back America in her illegal wars for oil, god knows why we follow America into wars?? We should be looking more to europe and peace and let America go on its own.
I only wish America did sit back, you might still have your twin towers and the whole world might still have a bit of respect for you. The world is hell in a basket because of your help and assistance. Thanks
I love the fantasy that Americans share that Britain will be on her knees without America. We have never needed you in the past and we dont need you now.
Then why the Hell did y'all come to us in the Second World War then?? Why did you want us to modify our neutrality treaty? Your Churchill even asked about delivery of weapons in exchange for technical knowledge when the gold to pay for those weapons ran out.
So y'all came to us.
But never mind. I think while we're at it we ought to discuss about the US to withdraw from the UN and cease all funding.
Hey, I think America would be better off for doing it. Why should our tax-paying dollars go overseas when there are many things in a the homeland that need upgrading?
Oh and before you leave our fair shores, take your butt ugly Winston Churchill bust with you....
What the fuck are you on you dick. The education and life in the 13 colonies was better than in England at the time of the war. If you unhappy with your colonial experience, do you mind if we move Harvard University back to England?
It's okay, I was being sarcastic. A comment to be treated with the same kind of laughter as one claiming that you can buy a Lamborghini Diablo for little over $8000.
Enviromental suffering lol who creates the most greenhouse gasses oh that is right the USA maybe i should oask for compo on regards to my grandmother for contracting lung cancer from the dity air or maybe the USa should provide compo for all the Iraq civillians they have killed!
You believe it? Ok, I want reparations for the British Police Officer shot dead by an American on Boxing day 2005, for the 5 British soldiers killed by Americain friendly fire in Iraq and Afghanistan, for the American CIA who trained Osama Bin Laden and the Muhajideen and gave them $3 billion and for the global recession which America started.
Come on mate you really cant believe this crap. I and the majority of Britain have no problem with the USA, in fact I have several American friends and I have been there 4 times. The stuff this guy preaches is bullshit. The petition is called "British Reparations" when it says even the Scotish and Welsh are entitled even though there British. By the way I was only joking about wanting reparations from America because all countries have done bad things inlcuding Britain.
Well then if your parents are from the empire I guess you'll be held responsible too along with all the other brits who have been inhabiting america for the past 500 years.
Obviously I'm referring to those of british descent who's anscestors were responsible for all of these accused crimes. If the ones living in britain have to pay then so do the ones living in america and elsewhere. Although let's face it if America had to pay for all of their mistakes then they'd be in serious trouble and would not be able to afford any inhabitants.
yes,yes yo do, you have hawi which was taken by a briti-american conspiracy, you have islabds from ww2 and you refused independence to the south,making it an empire
no it is, they arent allowed to leave, britain let half her colonies leave, one day america will know democracy,just hang in there.given you though british citizens where rich during the empire i question your knowledge of the topic
I certainly think y'all were better off than the people in Asia and Africa, that's for sure.
Did you guys have famines hit Gloucester, Manchester, Cornwall and London like the ones that afflicted the British Raj?? Would the British Empire have allowed millions of people to die from famine in England proper if God Forbid it happened??
there was starvation,first irish who then came to scotland,famine hit uk,many starved,unlike india many brits had no jobs and almost all had no water,so we drank beer, india were lucky
hi suryavajra i think that Pinochet was our savior :)
is a savior because he smash the communism in '70s & '80s and Chile lived much better than Allende to power. Allende was a bastard. that is my honest opinion that i can give you
Well what was the deal with Allende?? Over hear when people talk about Pinochet, they talk about horrible he was. But nobody really says who Allende was or what he really stood for...
Also what do you think of Galtieri in nearby Argentina??
somehow I have the feeling that they will be forthcoming...;)
I can't just mail the happy meal...I'd have to freeze it and send it over that way? You wouldn't have a good microwave oven that can thaw well, would you?? And don't mention it! LOL! I'll even make sure that you get the free toy...hahahha!
They owe us Welsh big time!! They tried to stop everyone from speaking Welsh in WALES, dumb idiots, by passing a law in 1847 "Royal Commission". Welsh was spoken before English was ever a language.
So I`ll take my $8,350.
MrArthddu 3 weeks ago
@MrArthddu he he he, come on world.
Just try.
BasilFawlty4444 3 weeks ago
You suck John Malkovich/REM clone guy!
Hellsconsort 4 months ago
When USA gives back all the money to all the countries they've damaged, then we will pay up :)
JammyBullet1 5 months ago
@JammyBullet1 We give Iraq and Afghanistan billions of $'s each year, so pay up.
Blackfriday420 2 months ago
@Blackfriday420 I said ALL the countries not 2 :) Also the guy leading this whole thing dosn't even go about it in a proffesional manner but acts like a ten year old taking the piss out of another country. Also all the great things that britain has gave the worl pretty much pays the price. The man leading this says it's britains fault global warmings happening because of the industrial period :/ but if he's traced thing back like that then guess what? I've traced back things even further...
JammyBullet1 2 months ago
@Blackfriday420 If Rome never went to Britain then alot of the things Britain done would have happened, for instance the industrial period. So if he wants to track things back then il track back even further :) feel free to aurgue, but before you do, don't argue a pointless argument with no logic placed behind. If you still feel you can prove me wrong then go a head, explain...
JammyBullet1 2 months ago
@JammyBullet1 I was just joking, of course the British owe no one reparations. There is certain people in society who feel the need to blame all there problems on someone else. It's just like the African Americans wanting reparations, even though they were never personally slaves and the white people alive today have never slaves. It's just people wanting handouts for absolutely no real reason.
Blackfriday420 2 months ago
@JammyBullet1 How is the industrial revolution at all linked to Rome?
BasilFawlty4444 3 weeks ago
@BasilFawlty4444 because if Rome never went the britain then there's know way England would have been that well of an organized or powerful country.
JammyBullet1 3 weeks ago
@JammyBullet1 Britain was not at all an organised or structured society after the Romans left. It fell into a disorganised, backward period.
Even the Feudal system, which came after the Romans, was dead and gone before the Industrial Revolution arrived.
BasilFawlty4444 3 weeks ago
@BasilFawlty4444 fair enuff, but still the country would have been different and changed the events of time. By the way when the guy behind this was confronted about the Romans he didn't even deny it and just went on to say how it's not just the British but europeans in general.
JammyBullet1 3 weeks ago
@BasilFawlty4444 + the guy behind it all is a fucking retard he dosn't know the difference between Britian and England.
JammyBullet1 3 weeks ago
YOUR NOT GETTING NO MONEY!
JammyBullet1 5 months ago
8,350 X 6.3 billion = £50100000000000 Ummmmmmmm...... There isnt that much cash on the planet!!!!!
Crape101 7 months ago
you do realize that scotland, wales and northern Ireland are all part of the UK, and are as much to blame for the british empire as just england. there is a difference between england and Britain and the UK!
so clearly you don't research this
millwalleltham 8 months ago
so, any sign of these reparations yet then? didn't think so!! ha ha
apincle 9 months ago
Oasis is the greatest band of the last 20 years.
redbe75 10 months ago
lol i love how it says no english man women or child will get paid, considering the population of america are considerably decendants, no money for you then
Curt1233brit 10 months ago
@Curt1233brit Nope.. Im native. Cree tribe. pay up.lol
redbe75 10 months ago
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redbe75 10 months ago
@Curt1233brit completely joking. no offense.
redbe75 10 months ago
@redbe75 there is actually a web site for this though lol
Curt1233brit 10 months ago
@Curt1233brit yes, but I believe ( god I hope so) that it is a bunch of bullshit.. It does nothing but bait more Yank bashing, while insulting England. . And Im so weary of that.
redbe75 10 months ago
yeah take money off british citzens who donate to charity for good cause like malaria and ohh wait an american wants a poney, ahh well we will pay for that then, FUCK WHIT AMERICANS NEED TO LEARN THAT THE WOLRD WORKS AROUND VIOLENCE, I MEAN THAT HOW YOU WIPED THE NATIVES NEARLY COMPLETLY OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH
Curt1233brit 10 months ago
lol ok we pay this, how about america gives west USA to the natives, compensates for the trama in vietnam ( Babys still being born deformed because of chemical weapons) and the My lai massacre. Also while hwere here lets make the germans pay for killing 6 million jews , give it to isreal. Make the spainish pay the entire continet of south america. see how fucking down sydrome this causes is, it highlights the worst thing in history, its history, as in in the past not now you fucking nobs
Curt1233brit 10 months ago
We'll give us the Money when you return all the land your hemp smoking slave owning founder stole from us and all the Catholics he starved.
Rhyden11 11 months ago
well we will wil pay when america gives there land back to the natives
jackho1412 11 months ago
This is just Anglophobia.
IKnowTheWayToSanJose 1 year ago
The Oasis bit had me laughing so much XD
Ah wow that's class. Fuck you British arseholes!!! >: )
mariotaz 1 year ago
@mariotaz fuck yourself, your not getting no money your fat faggot.
JammyBullet1 5 months ago
@JammyBullet1
I'm am British XD
But shhh I am pretend to not be British so I can get free money.
mariotaz 5 months ago
@mariotaz I think they would no whether your British or not -_-
JammyBullet1 5 months ago
@JammyBullet1
Wha'?
mariotaz 5 months ago
@mariotaz you said you will get free money if you pretend not to be british.... if so they will know your british.
JammyBullet1 5 months ago
@JammyBullet1
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mariotaz 5 months ago
Guys, if the Oasis reference wasn't an obvious sign that britishreparations is a troll site, then I don't know what is.
Thumbs up for people to see this.
meepmeepjeep 1 year ago
everybodies getting paid? Ha not a penny of my moneys going to u dumbasses. Steven A Grasse uv made a big mistake. U will be looking over your shoulder for the rest of your shitty fucked up in the head life.
DodgyIdeot 1 year ago
At least Britain doesn't have a MONKEY PRESIDENT.
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kinkaid25 1 year ago
This is getting to racist agaist the English now, i'm calling barack obama, Hang on he might also want $8000 dolllars lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll FUCK ME KID GET A FUCKING LIFE AND A JOB WHILE YOUR AT IT, YOU TIT
kinkaid25 1 year ago 16
You could even buy a bigger trailers yankydoodles hahahaha
toweronepower 1 year ago
Oasis is awesome
LlamasOnAcid 1 year ago 8
hahahahahahahhahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahhaahh
B1gBassa 1 year ago
Buuuaaahahahaha. Some people actually think this is serious too.
jollyradical 2 years ago
Another beliver of the reperations fever, Take hither of the last deceiver who claimed thirty pieces of silver.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
You call it reparations, I call it a celebration, I'll be taking the gold & go on vacation...lol!
suryavajra 2 years ago
While you all are waiting to get paid, i'll be getting laid.
Dont wait up...
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
You'll be getting played, when I get paid just after my Gold is weighed.
suryavajra 2 years ago
I hope you enjoyed your lesson, i'm quite glad we were willing to give democracy to india.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
You did nothing of the kind....LOL!!
It was something that went along with the Indian Republic.
suryavajra 2 years ago
Of course, all this came at the cost of all political independence and self determination for Indians themselves.However,it should be pointed out that the native Indians had lost this some 250 years before the expansion of British power to the invading Mughals, a Mongol Muslim dynasty from Persia.
The rule of Britain was far less of an imposition, and far more beneficial to India and Indians, than the despotic rule of the Mughals had even been.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
rudeydudey, now you bring up the Persians.
I tell you what. On a personal level, I've met Persians, and most have treated me like a cousin or a long lost brother. They were a sister civilization to India. There was no threat from that quarter.
Infact long before the British imposed their rule over India, it was Persian that was the language of diplomacy, poetry and of high society.
suryavajra 2 years ago
You gotta ask youself What would have happened had the East India Company and Britain never entered the subcontinent?
Allow me to answer this question...
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
India would of been a strong nation, with none of the bull crap in between.
suryavajra 2 years ago
(1) colonisation by another more brutal regime ie French or Japanese
(2) conquest by Persian/Afghan powers
(3) an internal destruction of the Mughal Empire and rule of Marathas or another internal faction.
Cont...
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
rudeydudey,
What did I just finish tell you? The Persians and even the Afghans werel ike out relatives.
As for the Mughal Empire, its destruction was a foregone conclusion, but eventually another strong Indian dynasty would of risen up and established its own hegemony.
As for the French, they were in India at the time and they really weren't as bad as the British. I have been to Pondicherry, have you??
suryavajra 2 years ago
**were like their relatives
suryavajra 2 years ago
(4) a resurgence of the Mughal powers
(5) continuous warfare between rival shifting states
(f) mutual assention of the States into a union
The Brits gave India democracy, a canal system in Punjab, a railway network, common law, [Madras, New Delhi, Calcutta, Mumbai among other cities], English, Unity (despite your assertion to the contrary), and deliverence from Feudal rule (also despite your assertion to the contrary)
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
No they didn't. The British never gave India democracy. That is a fallacy.
The British Raj was a dictatorship, pure and simple. And everytime the Indians wanted Dominion status which would give them self-rule and democracy, guys like Churchill refused. Y'all were never about democracy, so who are we really fooling?
The only thing that y'all can legitimately brag about are the rail ways which were paid for by the Indian tax payer.
suryavajra 2 years ago
Was you expecting a bridge and a rail system for free?
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
Oh I don't know. That's what happened in Britain. Your railways were built by private enterprise. Y'all certainly did not go the tax & spend route in your home country.
suryavajra 2 years ago
rudeydudey, what are you talking about deliverance from feudal rule?? Do you hear the bull shit coming out of your mouth?
In 1947 there were hundreds of FEUDAL states that were around because they had been allied to the British. The only feudal kingdoms y'all took out were the ones that were pro-French or pro-Dutch or Pro-Portuguese or that fought against you for their independence.
suryavajra 2 years ago
rudeydudey,
After independence, the Nawab of Hyderabad went on record saying that he would go down fighting and take millions of Hindus with him.
And he was YOUR dear ally.
suryavajra 2 years ago
You did nothing to defeat feudalism. You kept it around because there were feudal lords who go along with your rule. Power politics pure and simple. Don't get all idealistic here.
suryavajra 2 years ago
I thought it was good of us to share something like democracy.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
LOL!!!!!! You're a funny man!!!
suryavajra 2 years ago
democracy isnt funny.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
I was laughing at the ludicrous nature of the claim.
suryavajra 2 years ago
Well you have deep seeded hatrid, it will be hard for you to except.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
Not Hatred.....
I'm just telling it the way it was.....
suryavajra 2 years ago
Which leads to my bottom line.
The British Raj was not that much of a radical departure from the preceding Mughal Empire and Dehli Sultanate.
Sure there were some unique aspects. But there were also negatives that made it worse than the preceding regimes.
real modernization and western republican ideals came with the birth of the Republic.
suryavajra 2 years ago
From your own experience?
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
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suryavajra 2 years ago
Sure....
suryavajra 2 years ago
Thats his problem, we didnt force him to say it.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
Well he was your FEUDAL ALLY.
suryavajra 2 years ago
Political stability.
Over the centuries, India had suffered invasion, conquest, and wars between rival states within the subcontinent itself.Once the British had taken over,there were no more invasions, and no more internal wars.This made life much safer and stable for everyone.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
rudeydudey, when the Mughals ruled in their prime there was poltiical and economic security.
Even during the reign of Aurangzeb, it was estimated that India had 20-25% of the world economy which made them the largest economy in the world at the time!!!
When the British left India in 1947, India's share of the world economy was 4%!!!!
suryavajra 2 years ago
I wouldnt believe those percentages, they lie to you.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
Numbers don't lie. They cut through the bull crap of the politics.
suryavajra 2 years ago
Face it, we were simply fantastic.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
If the British Empire represented a brand of dog food, it would of been recalled a long time ago!!!! LOL!!
suryavajra 2 years ago
I'm sure the dog still enjoyed eating it.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
yep...before poor Fido eeled over with its feet up in the air. :((
suryavajra 2 years ago
*keeled
suryavajra 2 years ago
Bringing Law to the lawless.
The Mughals, Marathas, and so on were despots - they did as they pleased and ruled arbitrarily, law and justice being haphazard and often administered by whim. The British introduced laws that were the same for everyone, and, on the whole, upheld and enforced them.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
Nope. The Mughals has a system of law and order. And except for the reign of Aurangzeb, the Mughals were religiously tolerant. Infact many many Hindus went on to be generals and court advisors in the old Mughal Empire.
Infact the Mughals even had a system of civil servants and bureaucrats that administered the Empire.
suryavajra 2 years ago
Britain provided Job opportunities leading to self betterment.
Ordinary Indians could better themselves by joining the army, working in the administration, or get jobs as servants to British families and administrators. Rich Indians sometimes sent their sons to Britain for their education.Gandhi qualified as lawyer through studying in England.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
Again more bull crap.
If Britain really want to provide for betterment, why didn't they do more in education?? Here's another factoid for ya. According to a UNESCO study on the history of literacy in India, literacy rates among adults in 1947 at the end of British rule was 18%. You call this betterment and opportunity?!!
suryavajra 2 years ago
It was 3% before the Brits arrived.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
Doesn't matter. Y'all go on and on about how you created a modern state and did so much for the Indians. How y'all were supposedly better than the successor Republican government.
The numbers don't bear that contention out.
suryavajra 2 years ago
The British built roads, railways, schools, hospitals, vital buildings of infrastucture even built most of the cities in India. Which are the life blood of modern India.
What has America done for India? apart from make things worse by allowing Firms like Microsoft and Intel taking advantage of cheap (Slave) labour.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
rudeydudey, I'm allergic to bull shit. Y'all most definitely did not build the cities in India. They were already there. Y'all just added on to it.
As for America. The Rockefeller Center did more for the Indians than the Brits for 190 years failed to do.
suryavajra 2 years ago
The Rockefeller Center just taught Indian men how to beat their wives.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
Naah...now you're giving lip.
suryavajra 2 years ago
Oh and rudeydudey, the railways were paid for through taxation of the Indian farmers and farm laborers. Y'all didn't give shit. The bill was footed by the Indians. Meanwhile in Britain, your railways were built through private enterprise.
As for colleges in a list of the best universities in the world back in 2006, the three Indian universities on the list were all built AFTER independence.
What up, now.....
suryavajra 2 years ago
Stabilization of the Land Tax.
All Indians paid a Land Tax.Under the Mughals and other native regimes, this was often increased arbitrarily when the ruler needed extra money for some purpose.This often caused want and even famine for millions of ordinary Indians. Although the British continued to collect the Land Tax, they left it at the same rate, providing economic stability.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
rudeydudey,
Y'all collected taxes by other means. What about the salt tax? ehh?
And by the way, when a famine occured in the late 1600s, the Mughal Emperor Shah Jahan ordered that the granaries be opened and that food be distributed among those afflicted.
So don't even go there, my man.....
suryavajra 2 years ago
British granaries, granaries that wouldnt of been there if the brits didnt build them.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
Now you're just reaching.....LOL!!!
suryavajra 2 years ago
Britain put an End of 'barbarous' religious practices.
Both suttee - the practice whereby Hindu widows were forced to burn themselves to death on their husband's funeral pyres, and Thugee, the ritual murder of travellers in worship of the goddess Kali, were stamped out by the British, saving literally millions of lives over the nearly 200 years of British rule.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
oh please, rudeydudey, don't give me this. millions more men, women and children died during the many, many famines that broke out during the late 1800s. In the 1943 Bengal famine alone, 6 million Indians died. What the British administrators do to alleviate these famines and save lives? Absolutely nothing. Barbarous, don't you think? Didn't come across that fact in your travels over there, did you?
suryavajra 2 years ago
India was lucky
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
rudeydudey, India WAS NOT lucky. 190 years of British misrule.
The bad old days...
suryavajra 2 years ago
thats what i said, they had it better than most brits
Georgebushbent 2 years ago
I don't see how they're lucky when million of their own died in the famines.
suryavajra 2 years ago
because percentage wise few died,unlike britain
Georgebushbent 2 years ago
I don't think so GeorgebushBent. In 1943 alone, six million died.
suryavajra 2 years ago
& how many in india? many millions, small chips, britain had it worse
Georgebushbent 2 years ago
how is it small chips. It's MILLIONS of people, man.
Kinda like saying that the Great Leap Forward or the Cultural Revolution in China were small chips or like Stalin's purges were just small fries.
Or are you implying that person for person, Indian lives are worth less than British ones?
suryavajra 2 years ago
are you not hearing me?millions die in india today, percentage wise very few died during the empire, britain was doing the dying
Georgebushbent 2 years ago
No they don't. They don't die of actual starvation. They don't die of hunger.
Yeah, I think y'all in Britain were living it up and screwing around.
suryavajra 2 years ago
no,you have no grasp of history, brits were starving, why u think they leave for australia, africa, america?
Georgebushbent 2 years ago
do you invisage people eating feasts and having large manor houses, if i said people never starved in us before the newdeal would you disagree, that was nothing to britains starvation
Georgebushbent 2 years ago
In all seriousness, I think you guys had an aristocracy, a middle class, and ofcourse the working poor.
Were conditions really, really rough for the working class? Of course.
But to say that Britain was worse off than India in empire that was called the British Empire is a pretty hard to believe.
suryavajra 2 years ago
well regardles of belief it dosent change facts,if it hadnt of been for starvation americaa would not have grown so fast,people left to survive
Georgebushbent 2 years ago
Georgebushbent, pretty horrible isn't it?
suryavajra 2 years ago
I like the way speaker interchanges British to English. Last i checked it was the British Empire and not just a English one.
This should be a warning to any country thinking of becoming allies or friends with America, just like judas they will stab you in the back for a few bucks.
But our gov will continue to back America in her illegal wars for oil, god knows why we follow America into wars?? We should be looking more to europe and peace and let America go on its own.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
kinda funny coming from a country known as ''Perfidious Albion'', ehhh?? LOL!
suryavajra 2 years ago
Perfidious? Funny how its the other way round. I really cant wait until Britain completly severes ties with the US.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
But rudeydudey, I think y'all should go as well. Go to Europe. Don't let the door hit y'all on the way out, you hear? :))
suryavajra 2 years ago
Funny your military leaders and president dont have the same attitude as you, its better than begging Britain to join in all your illegal wars.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
I can say the same for you, man.
But really, why don't you just go?
I wish there was a way that we Americans just sat back and pulled out all of our troops from all over the world and brought them back to the US.
It wouldn't be a week before y'all come begging on your hands and knees for American assistance as the world goes to Hell in a handbasket.
suryavajra 2 years ago
I only wish America did sit back, you might still have your twin towers and the whole world might still have a bit of respect for you. The world is hell in a basket because of your help and assistance. Thanks
I love the fantasy that Americans share that Britain will be on her knees without America. We have never needed you in the past and we dont need you now.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
Then why the Hell did y'all come to us in the Second World War then?? Why did you want us to modify our neutrality treaty? Your Churchill even asked about delivery of weapons in exchange for technical knowledge when the gold to pay for those weapons ran out.
So y'all came to us.
But never mind. I think while we're at it we ought to discuss about the US to withdraw from the UN and cease all funding.
suryavajra 2 years ago
Please by all means do it, the world would be a better place if America just fucked the hell off.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
Hey, I think America would be better off for doing it. Why should our tax-paying dollars go overseas when there are many things in a the homeland that need upgrading?
Oh and before you leave our fair shores, take your butt ugly Winston Churchill bust with you....
suryavajra 2 years ago
He is half American, of course he is ugly.
rudeydudey05 2 years ago
Correction: he is half British.
suryavajra 2 years ago
rudeydudey, we are a continental nation. We really don't need you.
Why don't you go to Europe, join hands and sing Kumbaya, yeah?? That will save the rest of us from your bitching and whining....
suryavajra 2 years ago
"England caused this country a lot of money."
What the fuck are you on you dick. The education and life in the 13 colonies was better than in England at the time of the war. If you unhappy with your colonial experience, do you mind if we move Harvard University back to England?
omsct 2 years ago
omsct, you can't move a university, unless you take into account every brick and move it back.
By the way, life in the colonies were tough. Though I will concede that you guys were taxed by the government more at the time of the War.
suryavajra 2 years ago
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omsct 2 years ago
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omsct 2 years ago
It's okay, I was being sarcastic. A comment to be treated with the same kind of laughter as one claiming that you can buy a Lamborghini Diablo for little over $8000.
omsct 2 years ago
$8,350 for a Lamborghini? wtf lol
bubbles867 2 years ago
Enviromental suffering lol who creates the most greenhouse gasses oh that is right the USA maybe i should oask for compo on regards to my grandmother for contracting lung cancer from the dity air or maybe the USa should provide compo for all the Iraq civillians they have killed!
bubbles867 2 years ago
The author of this book has less of a chip on his shoulder and more like the entire forest.
390904902 2 years ago
I cant believe this.
BritACF 2 years ago
oh...believe it!! LOL!
suryavajra 2 years ago
You believe it? Ok, I want reparations for the British Police Officer shot dead by an American on Boxing day 2005, for the 5 British soldiers killed by Americain friendly fire in Iraq and Afghanistan, for the American CIA who trained Osama Bin Laden and the Muhajideen and gave them $3 billion and for the global recession which America started.
BritACF 2 years ago 3
BritACF, I think you got this all wrong. It's you guys that pay the rest of us...That's how it works. :)
suryavajra 2 years ago
Come on mate you really cant believe this crap. I and the majority of Britain have no problem with the USA, in fact I have several American friends and I have been there 4 times. The stuff this guy preaches is bullshit. The petition is called "British Reparations" when it says even the Scotish and Welsh are entitled even though there British. By the way I was only joking about wanting reparations from America because all countries have done bad things inlcuding Britain.
BritACF 2 years ago
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suryavajra 2 years ago
Ohhhh I don't know....he's taliong about putting money my pocket. That alone is cause to take it seriously...LOL!
By the way, my folks come from the former Empire. And that really was far worse than any Oasis song...hahahaha!
suryavajra 2 years ago
Well then if your parents are from the empire I guess you'll be held responsible too along with all the other brits who have been inhabiting america for the past 500 years.
jayforrester123 2 years ago
There are no Brits inhabiting America, save those who are over here with British passports.
suryavajra 2 years ago
Obviously I'm referring to those of british descent who's anscestors were responsible for all of these accused crimes. If the ones living in britain have to pay then so do the ones living in america and elsewhere. Although let's face it if America had to pay for all of their mistakes then they'd be in serious trouble and would not be able to afford any inhabitants.
jayforrester123 2 years ago
I see no reparations have been proffered as yet.
Could it be we're not in the slightest bit sorry for all the Excesses of the British Empire?
I do believe so!!
apincle 2 years ago
Well you should be. The British Empire sucked more than Cold Play!!! LOL!!!
suryavajra 2 years ago
Suryavajra, can't see a belt without hitting below it!!
You REALLY know how to hurt a limey!
apincle 2 years ago
LOL!!!
Sorry about that apincle....
Didn't know that you would take the air out of you.
suryavajra 2 years ago
the american empire is worse
Georgebushbent 2 years ago
Americans don't have an Empire nor want one.
suryavajra 2 years ago
yes,yes yo do, you have hawi which was taken by a briti-american conspiracy, you have islabds from ww2 and you refused independence to the south,making it an empire
Georgebushbent 2 years ago
Georgebushbent, Hawaii is a state equal to all other states. They have representation in Washington DC.
As for the South, they are one of the most politically influential region in American politics today!!!
Nice try, but it is nowhere near as bad as the old British Empire.
suryavajra 2 years ago
no it is, they arent allowed to leave, britain let half her colonies leave, one day america will know democracy,just hang in there.given you though british citizens where rich during the empire i question your knowledge of the topic
Georgebushbent 2 years ago
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suryavajra 2 years ago
I certainly think y'all were better off than the people in Asia and Africa, that's for sure.
Did you guys have famines hit Gloucester, Manchester, Cornwall and London like the ones that afflicted the British Raj?? Would the British Empire have allowed millions of people to die from famine in England proper if God Forbid it happened??
So really.....
suryavajra 2 years ago
there was starvation,first irish who then came to scotland,famine hit uk,many starved,unlike india many brits had no jobs and almost all had no water,so we drank beer, india were lucky
Georgebushbent 2 years ago
Oh please, India was far from lucky.
You had MILLIONS in India dying in EACH of the famines and there were almost a dozen of them.
suryavajra 2 years ago
that may have something to do with the fact india had more people,percentage wise they were lucky
Georgebushbent 2 years ago
It would never happen anyway we would be bankrupt.
BritACF 2 years ago
You never know!!!! LOL!
suryavajra 2 years ago
dear mamucium55:
ok cockhead now shut the fuck up dumbritish
do you like that satanic-moors & islamists invading again england?
yankees are sons of the british empire of hell
fucking wankers
all problems are thanks to yankees & britees
death to england & usa of bollocks
rulehispannia1 2 years ago
hola rulehispania....
soy estadounidense. hay muchas personas en el mundo hispania que no gustan communismo?? que piensas a Pinochet??
suryavajra 2 years ago
hi suryavajra i think that Pinochet was our savior :)
is a savior because he smash the communism in '70s & '80s and Chile lived much better than Allende to power. Allende was a bastard. that is my honest opinion that i can give you
rulehispannia1 2 years ago
Well what was the deal with Allende?? Over hear when people talk about Pinochet, they talk about horrible he was. But nobody really says who Allende was or what he really stood for...
Also what do you think of Galtieri in nearby Argentina??
suryavajra 2 years ago
humm i don't know....Galtieri sought to show that Argentina had sovereignty over the Falkland Islands, but it is not at war with UK
this is my basic point of view about the Falkland war
rulehispannia1 2 years ago
It's England's fault we can't play rugby
It's England's fault we're obese
It's England's fault we have high school shootings
It's England's fault we have spray-on cheese
It's England's fault we're in recession
apincle 2 years ago
It's England's fault we have mexican illegals
It's England's fault we whine so much
It's even England's fault that it's England's fault!
We hate the English so much that we're going to dam well adopt their culture! Ha! That'll teach 'em!
apincle 2 years ago
everyone's getting paid??????? no out of our pocket they're not!
apincle 2 years ago
apincle..I'll buy you a Maccy d's Happy Meal with my share of the reparations...LOL!!
suryavajra 2 years ago
Why, that's very kind of you good sir!
Though Her Majesty's government my not be forth coming with said reparations.
My guess is about, two thousand and twenty never.
But let's now wait! buy me the happy meal now an just mail it over. The food here is beyond contempt, so I'll really appriciate it!
apincle 2 years ago
somehow I have the feeling that they will be forthcoming...;)
I can't just mail the happy meal...I'd have to freeze it and send it over that way? You wouldn't have a good microwave oven that can thaw well, would you?? And don't mention it! LOL! I'll even make sure that you get the free toy...hahahha!
suryavajra 2 years ago