@kermite86 Actually i just back date you mate. In my day, this was a 'Zottman Curl" I know what the newbies now call a Zottman Curl. I've done my research mate. 4 decades worth. Labels change, so what? Cal it whatever you want. The "new" version of the last several years is a movement that makes no sense to me at all, from an application perspective
Hello coaches - what do you make of the "pausing and squeezing" in the contracted position (i.e. holding the peak contraction in exercises like e.g. curls, rows & pulls for back)? Does it really allow for a stronger contraction & is it advisible or is it a waste of time for development training? If I remember right Dorian used to say: "if you can't hold it in the peak contraction, you didn't lift it with your muscles alone". However Kevin goes non-stop like a piston.
@biglabrador Only certain exercises lend to peak contraction emphasis, not all of them. So sometimes its appropriate and sometimes not. And some exercises allow for it to be done either way. But I always prefer continuous tension more or less. Remember do not get so caught up in what is tactical- strategical - as in proper programming, is much more important
@scottabelcoaching Dear Scott - isn't part of the problem with pausing at the peak contraction the fact that in such a case one has to use lower weights (as muscle in peak contraction is weaker than in stretched position) - possibly too low to allow for a sufficient overload of the muscle in the stretched position? And bigger weights, although potentially unmanagable for peak contraction, should allow for an overload in the most effective stretched phase - what is your opinion?
yea god scott and kevin... using momentum on a curl.... all the teenage experts with huge 13 inch guns know that you should really slowly move the weight and hold that peak contraction to fully activate the muscle.....lol sorry I just had to have a go
i love hammer curls..possibley the most underrated arm exercise period. not only do get the feeling of your biceps and elbow flexors being on the brink of combustion but the added pump in the forearm flexors and extensors.. def an exercise that gives a bang for your buck..
have always found curls more effective if the elbow is supported aka preachers (also using a variety of grips obviously). Maintains continuous tension on the eccentric phase. Obviously there's multiple ways to skin a cat I would just suggest that preachers are the best way most of the time.
@brendonrabbitt No one here is suggesting to use one exercise only. And there is seldom one exercise that best suits everyone. But nothing wrong with preachers either
Also look at the way hes swinging the weights. That is bad practise. Your muscle should be doing the work, not momentum from swinging it. If you swing it like this it kind of makes it pointless because your not REALLY working the muscle as much as you could be.
@liquidbadger06 When people are inexperienced they often can not tell the difference between using a little body leverage to make the exercise harder rather than swinging and cheating to make it easier. Proper use of leverage allows for more tension on the muscle not less, thus a more productive set. Sorry you won't find that in you personal trainer manuel but talk to someone who has actually built a physique and they will tell you the same thing.
This is wrong. Hes basically shown 2 different ways to do hammer curls here! The zottman curl is something completely different. Research that if you dont believe me.
Uhhhh so this IS a zottman curl? so confusing to name these shit
SeriouslyPissedOff 4 months ago
this isn't a zottman curl !!! Do a little research before showing something that's not the right thing.
kermite86 6 months ago
@kermite86 Actually i just back date you mate. In my day, this was a 'Zottman Curl" I know what the newbies now call a Zottman Curl. I've done my research mate. 4 decades worth. Labels change, so what? Cal it whatever you want. The "new" version of the last several years is a movement that makes no sense to me at all, from an application perspective
scottabelcoaching 6 months ago 8
Hello coaches - what do you make of the "pausing and squeezing" in the contracted position (i.e. holding the peak contraction in exercises like e.g. curls, rows & pulls for back)? Does it really allow for a stronger contraction & is it advisible or is it a waste of time for development training? If I remember right Dorian used to say: "if you can't hold it in the peak contraction, you didn't lift it with your muscles alone". However Kevin goes non-stop like a piston.
biglabrador 6 months ago
@biglabrador Only certain exercises lend to peak contraction emphasis, not all of them. So sometimes its appropriate and sometimes not. And some exercises allow for it to be done either way. But I always prefer continuous tension more or less. Remember do not get so caught up in what is tactical- strategical - as in proper programming, is much more important
scottabelcoaching 6 months ago
@scottabelcoaching Dear Scott - isn't part of the problem with pausing at the peak contraction the fact that in such a case one has to use lower weights (as muscle in peak contraction is weaker than in stretched position) - possibly too low to allow for a sufficient overload of the muscle in the stretched position? And bigger weights, although potentially unmanagable for peak contraction, should allow for an overload in the most effective stretched phase - what is your opinion?
biglabrador 6 months ago
yea god scott and kevin... using momentum on a curl.... all the teenage experts with huge 13 inch guns know that you should really slowly move the weight and hold that peak contraction to fully activate the muscle.....lol sorry I just had to have a go
ethanomglolz 1 year ago
i love hammer curls..possibley the most underrated arm exercise period. not only do get the feeling of your biceps and elbow flexors being on the brink of combustion but the added pump in the forearm flexors and extensors.. def an exercise that gives a bang for your buck..
rufusbeebarbell 1 year ago
have always found curls more effective if the elbow is supported aka preachers (also using a variety of grips obviously). Maintains continuous tension on the eccentric phase. Obviously there's multiple ways to skin a cat I would just suggest that preachers are the best way most of the time.
brendonrabbitt 1 year ago
@brendonrabbitt No one here is suggesting to use one exercise only. And there is seldom one exercise that best suits everyone. But nothing wrong with preachers either
scottabelcoaching 1 year ago
Also look at the way hes swinging the weights. That is bad practise. Your muscle should be doing the work, not momentum from swinging it. If you swing it like this it kind of makes it pointless because your not REALLY working the muscle as much as you could be.
liquidbadger06 1 year ago
@liquidbadger06 When people are inexperienced they often can not tell the difference between using a little body leverage to make the exercise harder rather than swinging and cheating to make it easier. Proper use of leverage allows for more tension on the muscle not less, thus a more productive set. Sorry you won't find that in you personal trainer manuel but talk to someone who has actually built a physique and they will tell you the same thing.
Kevin Weiss
scottabelcoaching 1 year ago
This is wrong. Hes basically shown 2 different ways to do hammer curls here! The zottman curl is something completely different. Research that if you dont believe me.
liquidbadger06 1 year ago
@liquidbadger06 Yes I'm aware of the label. You could call these 'Frontal Plane Hammer Curls" then if that makes you feel better
scottabelcoaching 1 year ago
dam bro you swing terribly nice genetics
bppump4life 2 years ago