That was the year when he averaged an unbelievable 35.4 points in a season and 43 in a month and he carried the D-league Laker team to the playoffs and played 7 games against the heavily favored Suns.
i think le bron is better now, but kobe is wiser. le bron's just brute force. kobe is graceful and wise. well, coz kobe played longer. but i think even in the long run, no one could match kobe's intensity and competitiveness. watching him is scary especially during the nuggets and orlando finals series.
mj never invented the fade away only mastered it and used it more routinely but every player in league does it its just kobe is one of the best at it. kg probably uses more now tho idk might be tied btw the two...lebron uses it quite a bit as well
tony parker either leads the league in points in the paint or among the top 5 each season. he's lay- upper! not a shooter! if jordan or tony would even attempt the shots kobe can make on the perimeter both of their percentages would'nt even be at kobe's. thats why kobe is a better shooter than both...like we didnt already know that. think b4 you post lol.
Lol.You missed the entire point and that was directed to kareneiron.I was being sarcastic.The point was a higher field goal percentage doesn't always mean a better shooter.I used Tony as an example.Field goal percentage is a result of shot selection/shooting ability.Kobe shoots alot of jumpshots.Tony drives to the hole.That is why his field goal percentage for that season is higher then Kobe and Jordans.Think before you post :-).
lol my bad. i tried to use tony as an example like u did, but not in a sarcastic manner, so ppl can further understand that kobe is actually a better shooter than mj. to contrast jordan's shot selection with kobe's and to allow ppl to understand that percentages are not a direct correlation with shooting ability. because some1 used mj's fg percentage to say that he was better shooter.
if kobe would shoot at around 48% or better (coz now he's only shooting at 45, but still good for a FG percentage anyways....) then i will say he is a better shooter than mj. i remember when he first started off this season almost halfway, he was shooting at a blistering
.487. i wish he was more consistent. and yep, kobe's J is the most graceful in the nba today.
when mj is at his 30's he relied on jumpshots more so than driving to the lane. just like kobe. the fg percentage is one proof that mj is a better shooter. kobe has had off nights when he shoots 5-20, or 8-23, while jordan never really had those kind of nights while JUMPSHOOTING. so, now, sorry to say that mj is better. oh and dont say kobe has better 3. mj never really attempted behind there.
no he doesnt. if you look at the percentage then "yes" but if you look at their make per attempts, jordan doesnt attempt as much as kobe. NOW, look at jordan's percent in the playoffs, you'll see that mj shoots around 33-50% on three. how can kobe be a better shooter?
well, theyre both great players but i just know kobe can be as great if he can shoot a little better. kobe's D is on par with mike. so... there. peace
maybe becuase mj had the advantage of shooting all of his shots right up near the rim. lol jordans shot was the same each time and against undersized defenders. kobe never shoots the same way twice and he shoots from every angle imaginable. even kareem said so. kobe takes inhuman shots while mike was rehaersed and with no range
you cant argue that if jordan has the ball during clutch time, you know the ball is going in, an issue sometimes on kobe not making clutch shots. i guess jordan jacks up 'smarter' shots than kobe that's why an effective and higher FG %.
oh, what do you mean kobe doesnt shoot the same way twice? i saw him banging up jaret jack more than twice shooting the same the whole game. he scored 40-ish something. now that's smart, and effective.
ps. mj had his time, i know you're a kobe fan.... so am i.
c'mon everyone knows Kobe shoots better, most jordan fans would probably say Kobe's a better shooter, they won't call him better than MJ, but a better shooter,,,,
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I respect Kobe's skill and heart. But the reason I HATE Kobe is because of his attitude, his dimeener, and mainly cuz hes a cry baby after losing to the Celtics last year.
what do you mean by his attitude? alot of ppl don't like cause of his attitude, but i don't understand what the problem is. So I'm asking you since you're a Kobe hater, what is it about his attitude that you and so many other ppl dont like??
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Ok ill tell you why i dont like his attitude. People are only thinking about right now how Kobe's acting now that shit is all good and peachy. But 2-3 years ago Kobe was bashing his teammates on Youtube. He was talking shit about Bynum Farmer and Sasha. He was also talking about how he wanted to be traded away from the Lakers. But then as soon as they started winning games hes now talking about his team comes first. It so fake. He wasnt saying that shit when he was losing.
its a lot u dont know about the realtionship with kobe and the management of the team 3 years ago. this is how it went down:
once shaq got traded kobe understood he was the sole leader of the team but the team was dismantled. there wasnt much of a team besides kobe. u cant win without a team and he understood that. kobe and the lakers had an agreement that they would immediately start to build a winnable team around kobe so they could be back in contention again.
things were not moving fast enough for kobe and for laker fans as well. 2 yrs had passed after shaq and it didnt seem like the lakers were trying to make any big moves to get back to winning tradition like they had discussed with kobe yrs b4. wouldn't he have a right to be upset and want to be traded if he felt the team wasn't working to be as good as they could be? especially if its the best player in the league..u need support to win, he didnt have it.
i read about the pau trade and how it was in the plans for the lakers to aquire pau 3 years before they actually did it. i guess they were waiting to build up some players to trade..lmao kwame brown..perfect. even b4 the pau trade in 07-08 season the lakers came off a 1st round 5 game series loss to phx in 1st place in western conf. thru the 1st half of the season and started looking much better. then feb 1, 08 the trade went down. and the lake show was back.
no1 player can win by themself. kobe clearly understood that. thats why he demanded the lakers make moves after the team was depleated- doesnt seem hard to understand why the man was upset. the lakers rookies that were drafted did get better and are still on the team (sasha, andrew, luke, jordan) all got better as lakers players to help the team win a chamionship. not to mention lamar is playing much better and trevor is straight dope. kobe is a 4time champ. his attitude is winning respect it!
I thought it was because of the loss of Andrew Bynum who was playing really good up to that point and they were first in the west before he got injured. But still who cares Lakers 09 champs. Why doesn't anyone complain about the trade for KG,Ray Allen and all those veterans for the Celtics.
What do you mean? The trade worked out well for the Celtics. Celtics traded about 5 "ok" players and a draft pick for a "sure All Star" KG who brought depth in the post as well as a good mid-range game and free throw shooting. Ray Allen was a smart choice with pure shooting, free throws and decent defense. Paul Pierce was already an All Star player who has a good inside-outside game and they won a championship their 1st season together. Why would anyone complain about them?
i dont understand kobe haters at all. i dont think any1 does. i hear too much: i like his game but hate his attitude. wth r u talking about? don't u realize his attitude is the main reason how he lead his team to the finals and got the 2 larry obrien and the bill russel?? dont u c that??! kobe haters are jus slow people i guess. at least u have enuff up there to realize his greatness; many of u haters can't even do that.
spick134 you're a tard. you respect but hate him because he cried? He congratulated the Celtics and as any real competitor would, came back the next year with a vengeance. Admit it, you're hating cause you're just another Kobe Hater.
He'll never get to jordan in terms of accomplishments and accolades, he never even get close but with that being said I actually this kobe has been a better player than jordan for quite some time now. That's just my opinion don't chastise me for it :P
not really he takes the same shots that jordan took, but makes more from a longer distance than jordan, but jordan took shots at the same level of difficulty
Kobe is Skilled I agree on that but to say that he has more skills than Jordan?
Most of Kobe fadeaways where already invented by MJ...
and he had to put up a ton of shots to carry his team that would make him the target of the opponents defense.. He had make to throw difficult shots, either he makes them or not..
(remember the post shaq - pre gasol period?)
and I know someone who took every diffcult shot in the book during his prime too....
yea true, but jordan was quicker, faster, stronger.. and could jump higher (wr for hangtime).. jordan jumped over guards too, he was put @ the 3 spot too.. when the bulls spread the floor with shooters. yes, they put small forwards on him to be more physical. i like kobe, theres no reason why he shouldnt be more skilled.
Six, but you're close, kid. And you cannot use that in an argument on who is better, i.e. Robert Horry (who I love, until he left the Lakers) has more rings than Charles Barkley, and that's just one example. It's so hard to compare Kobe and Michael because their abilities are on par with each other and they didn't face each other when both were in prime. I would say Michael was more physically gifted, but Kobe has more skill, which makes up the difference, but doesn't surpass.
being the best and the best skilled is different...
there is no reason why kobe shouldn't be more skilled than jordan. jordan was more physically gifted than kobe, but im close to giving kobe the skilled title. jordan just wouldn't let himself lose, or his team.. jordan is still better
crazi omg how the hell does he do tat whenever he makes em it doesn even touch the rim ..... lol he should have an aprentice, cause if he doesnt once he retires the nba is gonna be realli boring for me
Kobe has such a superb body control. To be able to fadeaway and elevate, depending only on his upper body strength and control to shoot the ball in. You need heck a lot of body control to do that.
ok this is cool and all..but i dont get it. it just looks like one of his regular jumpshots. can someone explain whats so special about it and what makes is so hard to me?
look at all the clocks at the time he was shooting. look at the scores. every one of those shots he took was clutch. its not a gamewinner but those shots are very clutch. all stepping up. this vid really should go out to please who say kobe is bust in the clutch.
only un-clutch shot was vs. SAC but he hates them anyway haha
to all da kobenuthuggers mike would avg. 45 points a game in diz era of da NBA ye feel me real talk 91-93(dont even got 2 bring out 84-90 jordan)polished jordan would make kobe look like how kobe make T-mac look 2nd best ye dig..lmao t-mac still shit on yobe
"kobe bryant will go down as the greatest basketball player that has ever lived" kobe= greatest of all time so far, he has passed jordan, not in accomplishments(even though jordan had a stacked team for a longer period of time) but in skill level. Watch jordan tapes, and take another look at this video. kobe is a scoring machine
i have watched as many jordan videos as i have kobe bryants, and when i watch kobe's videos he does things in more difficult situations. are u serious, jordan hit fadeaways like this? nah man, u can be a jordan fan if u want to, i am too, i just think kobe's shot is better, mid & long range. The fact that u said "not even close" makes me laugh. Get serious.
Lol mreman3000 ur 19 years old man..Dont talk about what u dont know..U watched MJ vids huh? Not enough vids i guess if u didnt see MJ doin the same thing KB is doin now. Take it from someone who actually watched MJ's career..Fadeaway threes, double pump threes, behind the backboard u name it MJ has done it. U should pick ur vids better.
Wow you're stupid. For every 1 of these "difficult" shots that Kobe makes, there are 5 that he misses. For every 1 fade away he makes, there are 2 that he misses. You don't see those in mixes, do you? He's missed a lot more shots than he has made. True greatness is NOT taking these stupid shots. Jordan's fade away was better because it went in more, end of story. Who cares how far from the basket it is? If it goes in more, it's a better shot. Period.
Michael was far more efficient. Their mid range shots are similiar, but Michael went to it more then Kobe does. Most of these are bad shots to take. It does not matter whether you can hit them, they are low percantage shots and show either low Basketball I.Q. or ego. Long range he is better, not by much. Every other skill Michael is ahead, especially defensively and intangibles.
Although i agree with most of what u said i have to disagree with the long range bit. Dont fall for that. KB isnt better than MJ at 3's. He just takes them a lot more which inflates his percentages. KB often starts cold from the 3. If he shot 1 or 2 threes per game like MJ did in his younger years u can be sure his % would be pathetic.
I not just referring to 3 point shots, I was referring to deep shots in general. Kobe takes and makes difficult shots more than any player I have ever seen on any level. The nature of the shots are more difficult. Michael rarely if ever took those type of shots, but Kobe is more proficient at them than anyone in League history. They are bad shots in nature, but require a tremendous amount of skill to hit them at the rate that he does. Kobe is using the mid range shot more, which is good.
U mean fadeaway 3's? MJ made them too.. But its like u said, if he takes them a lot more than anyone in the history of the game, he sure is gonna hit some. Again i wouldnt fool myself into thinkin he has some kind of unhuman ability to make them when he tries them so much..
I agree with the most you have said, although I think the main difference between kobe and jordan is in basketball maturity, not skills. the point is, kobe has taken a way more difficult shots then he had to in his career, while MJ was all about creating the best opportunity for himself and his teammates. only over the past 2 years, kobe has started to play at jordan type level, trusting his teamates more and taking less of the impossible shots.
I agree with most of it but kobe and jordan have the same defense, post up game & just bout eveything else. MJ has an edge in intangibles & shot selection although kobe can make difficult ones. Kobe has da edge in outside game & handles. Kobe in his early yrs w/o horry, fox, shaq, fisher etc had to take alot of shots so da team could compete in games. He shoots less now bc he doesnt have to anymore.
get your facts straight. shaq and most of this players u mentioned were already with the lakers when kobe joined the team. they also had van exel and eddie jones starting at guard positions, so he had to come off the bench in his first 2 years.
idiot, i was talkin about the 04-06 seasons. thats kobes early yrs w/o the players i mentioned. everyone knows kobe came off of the bench cause harris doesnt play young players. learn to read and understand
your mom is idiot,fuckin son of the bitch. you like insulting ppl over the net for no reason? little pussy faggot.Learn to speak and write properly fuckin moron.you said "kobe in his early years didnt have shaq, horry" etc.So you are either a stupid fucktard who doesnt know shit about b-ball, or you are a fuckin mentally-retarded idiot with the intelectual capabilities of a 5-year-old kid for not being able to express yourself in simple sentences.How could kobe's "early years" be 04-06 seasons?!
It all depends on how Kobe decides to play. When he does like Jordan and takes 2-3 3pointers a game, like how hes doing in the playoffs, his FG% is higher. He's shooting 50% so far.
because he penetrates more then he was doing in the regular season. If he took shots lebron did whole season, his fg% would be 55-60%. However,lebron cant do shit against real defense because unlike kobe he doesnt have an outside game
kobe took shots because he had to, and it still wasn't enough. once shaq left kobe was left with some crappy teams that he had to carry. even with him averaging 40 ppg for over a month his team couldnt get it done. as for kobe taking bad shots etc, it doesnt really matter as long as he makes a decent percentage of them, and he does.
as for mj kobe comparisons, kobes outside game is far better than mj's. no disrespect but your talking about the man who drained 12 threes in a game, 9 in a row
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laugh my ass off defense u have got to be kidding me Jordan>Kobe end of discussion no comparsion Kobe is Kobe Jordan is Jordan Kobe=biggest swagger jacker of all time i think the only person who will surpass Jordan statistic wise and could be better than him will Be Lebron James
U hardly ever see Mj Post up as much and as good as Kobe because MJs offensive Mindset was different and in this basketball era guards are becoming more versatile in terms of scoring so in MJs era scoring was in a different phase
Kobe Bryant is the best player in the game today, but better than Jordan in skill level? That is debatable. Bryant is not the defender that Jordan was, nor the rebounder nor passer. Michael was far more efficient on both ends with better intangibles. Have you seen the old Jordan videos from Hoopsencyclopedia? Kobe has never played with that type of charisma nor fluidity. Long range shooting is the only skill I will state that Bryant has over Jordan.
i have to agree with blueballgamer.... lebron or wade dont have that touch that kobe has..kobe just haves a gift that no one else has..he just kobe and nobody else all he has to do is to keep his dick in his pans and he will go down as one of the best of all times..
what do u mean KOBE wants to play like MIKE?? alot of people dont understand that GREAT PLAYERS play ALIKE.. and even if he is copying MIKE>.. By god.. i bet no one else can do taht.
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Jordan and Kobe are great players. Jordan by far is the better player and Kobe has a chance to go down as a top 5 player from his own era. Jordan should be compared to Shaq and Duncan who are the only leaders with multi-championships. Read my channel description. I guarantee you that it teaches you more about the game and the history of MJ and the history of Kobe.
Respectfully, you are wrong. Jordan is NOT BY FAR.. the better player. Kobe should not be compared to shaq (They are two different players) Shaq himself CALLED KOBE the best player in the nba when KObe was only 22..
i've always disliked kobe for some reason. i've spoken negatively about him on numerous occasions. i guess it's prolly coz' im a big MJ fan and i think he tries to play it off like he's the next mike. although admist all my negativity towards him i've never neglected his talent, i just ddnt dig his manorism but with the new dream team he's really shown me something different. especially with his defense, way to go kobe, keep it up!
Why do little fanboys flame on Kobe for being good at what he does? Yeah, he's sometimes a ballhog, he's sometimes a jerk and maybe a rapist, so what? That doesn't stop him from being in the ranks of MJ, Wilt and such. You pussies just have to accept the fact that he belongs in that category and will finish his career being one, Pussies.
hahha this debate again...look, kobe's either the best or one of the best in the league as far as pure athletic talent is concerned. but friends, it takes far more than athletic talent to win championships! in my honest opinion kobe's mini-mike, a sheer mimicry of the greatest.
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o yeah not mention 30 points in a quarter vs the jazz 10 50 point games in a season and barkley reggie kenny the jet lebron wade mike d'antoni gilbert arenas and countless others even say kobes the best right now and average most assist on his team andtony parker is a foul line and under player meanin closer to the basket higher percentage shots dumbass
whoa zopoundsakpase ur a an idiot kobes the best face it and if you hate the guy wy wach his videos fucking loser and he did score 81 points in a game and 4 straight 50+ games 2 of them 60+ avergae 40 points in a month scorin champ 2 yrs 62 in 3 quarters
yo dunn. how many shots do you think MJ takes in a season... he's the greatest BALLHUG in the entire NBA. he averages 1800 attemps in a season... kobe doesn't take more shots than MJ and he still ends up posting huge points.
UTfanatic keeps talking about FG%..even MJ had struggles; UT keeps citing one instance; that doesn't count at all.
If I take 6 shots and sink 4 that's 67%... that doesn't mean I'm helping my team... especially when peolple like kwame and odom can do more... they both rather pass the ball than drive in or dunk even when there's a clear lane.
What about drawing fouls,Free throws, Defense, attitude... like being aggressive... Nobody -apart from KB- on the laker team wants to win.
kobe shot them out of it? who took them in the win for game 2 moron? yeah he has to shoot out of the offense to get the points..usually when that happens they win? dumbass phil even had MJ plays out of the triangle for the bulls to win..get your facts straight..
for instance three pointers which he doen't make a decent percentage of,he isn't athletic enough to get to the rim so he has to settle for jump shots little bastard,thats his problem not mine
For one thing, you obviously do not know how to judge ability, as Kobe is still athletic, although not as much as he use to be, due to his injuries and wear and tear, but he still a borderline elite level athlete.
lmao this bitch chitownmo,said "his shooting percentage is not a matter of efficency",lmao then wtf is it then,if he converts at a high clip then he's should be taking all the shots
Name another Laker, or even a player in the League that can do what he does any time out on the floor? None, not TD, Shaq, LBJ, Melo, A.I., no one. Pure skill, he has no equal, and not for awhile.
oh thats what you must mean,thats a big fuckin no,just because he scores alot of points doesn't mean he scores them efficently,and without taking away from the team concept
lets see if he could score those same points without taking a million shots a game,his field goal percentage is worst than tony parkers,and he's a bigger player than parker bitch and supposedly stronger
Kobe is the best player in the League for the last several years, and the best perimeter player since MJ in 98. I have never said that he was better than MJ, he is not, but he is better than everyone else, especially in pure skill. If you actually analyzed his game the way scouts do, such as myself, people who work and are around players like Bryant on a daily basis, you would understand that, but you don't, so please keep you ignorant rantings to yourself.
and why don't you define best for me asshole since you keep running it,he's the best at what exactly,making his teammates better,thats a no,rebounding thats a no,playing defense thats a no,passing thats a no,turning the ball over thats a yes
Kobe is 5 and 5 for his career as a rebounder and passer, which is solid for a shooting guard, and he has been on the All-Defensive team for 7 of the last 8 years. Bye, I am done with you, regardless of what you type. Go do your homework, read a book, or something better than making a complete schmuck of yourself.
him on the defensive team,is a fuckin joke pussy he got lit up by gilbert arenas,lebron james and dwayne wade,carmelo,and a host of other perimeter players go fuck yourself with the defense thing chitownmo,your arguments have been stomped
yeah jordan takes alot of shots,do you know why bitch ass memesiz,its because his fg percentage was better than his entire team ever since he entered the nba, (kobe's fg percentage is not)and was among the highest in the league
Even Anti-Kobe fans like Utfantatic2000 and BruceBlitz know that Kobe is great, and is a Hall of Famer, even though they dislike the way he plays at times, even I do too, he is not perfect. But his combination of skill, athleticism, and determination makes him the best in the game. He is not the best person, not by a long shot, but the best player.
Most players go towards shots they know they can make, even when they are not falling, Kobe is not the only player to do this. It is called reinforced function, especially in tight situations players go to what feels the most comfortable, even when it is unsuccessful. That is not justifiable, but it is understandable, and common.
If you actually know how to judge talent, and know the changes that the game has undergone for the last 15 years, you would better understand why he and other players in the League shoot the lower percentage that most shoot at, which goes beyond the NBA level, down to the grassroot level in base instruction and development, but you would know nothing about that.
lets see..when kobe utilizes his team? what happens they get torched..when kobe scores do they win? apparently so? when kobe gets his team involved I.E. the suns series..they LOST! get your facts straight..MJ had a team to score..everyone on that team was reliable let alone consistent..look at lamar..always complaints about lack of consistency..smush lake of effort..kwame..lack of consistency..thats the core of the team moron
Kobe's team often loses when Kobe shoots a lot bc he shoots so poorly. For instance, game 5 against the suns, Kobe goes a horrid 13-33 for 39% with only 1 assist while his team shoots 53% and Odom is on fire at 13-21 at 63%. Kobe is a poor team player and poor leader. The lakers can't win with him as leader. Nobody can.
kobe averages 46% and lower in most of his games, he shouldn't be taking the amount of shots that he does because he takes low percentage shots to begin with bitch,
His shooting percentage is not a matter of efficiency, especially when you actually see him play. He makes plays that no one else in the League can make almost at will. Most of his shooting flaws have been to his lack of trust in his teammates, which is partially justified, and his competitiveness.
Your insults are unjust, and frankly unwarranted, take your ignorant rantings somewhere else please, and leave the real Kobe analysis to a real analyst like Utfanatic2000.
he should at that time either pass the ball or look for a higher percentage shot dumb fuck,he can't get the higher percentage shot because he can't finish like jordan could at the rim
Kobe mostly drives to hole late in games. As you may not know, he has had several knee surgeries, as well as the constant wear and tear on his legs, resulting in his change in playing style. MJ did the same thing after his first comeback, but did not play with the ultra competitiveness that Bryant plays with, which is reasonable, that has been counterproductive at times, and more with sound intelligence and teamplay, due to the Bulls great squad then.
excuses,excuse bitch,i don't want to hear it,if he's the socalled best he should be able to score in all the pahses of the game cocksucker chiownmo,you're the rambler ,i make perfect sense because i know basketball you don't. i'm not caught up in the hype of kobe you are
kobe is a way better shooter in comparison to jardan
tefterakos 2 years ago
That was the year when he averaged an unbelievable 35.4 points in a season and 43 in a month and he carried the D-league Laker team to the playoffs and played 7 games against the heavily favored Suns.
z4ng3tsu1ch1g0 2 years ago
nobodys better than this man
Chaenemi 2 years ago 3
lebron is...maybe not now. but in time he will.
foofoo314 2 years ago
i think le bron is better now, but kobe is wiser. le bron's just brute force. kobe is graceful and wise. well, coz kobe played longer. but i think even in the long run, no one could match kobe's intensity and competitiveness. watching him is scary especially during the nuggets and orlando finals series.
beshrew5 2 years ago
In rings maybe (and I'm being reallyyyyy generous), but credentials no.
superflypandaguy 2 years ago
Kobe and Jordan pretty much perfected that shallow postup then step back and fade shot. It's hard to do.
JKFrazier 2 years ago 5
did someone said raep? :O
lebonhart 2 years ago 2
haha kobe raped someone hahahaha
xx360Maddenxx 2 years ago
BEAST
neeor10 2 years ago
hE HAS THAT FADAWAY JUMPER LIKE HIS TEACHER MJ LOL!!!
joshuaofjericho 2 years ago
too bad he does it better
DRUMMA911 2 years ago
mj never invented the fade away only mastered it and used it more routinely but every player in league does it its just kobe is one of the best at it. kg probably uses more now tho idk might be tied btw the two...lebron uses it quite a bit as well
fmcneillii 2 years ago
Jordan's actually faded away when he shot a fadeaway. Kobe's is more like a turnaround jumper.
superflypandaguy 2 years ago
not a kobe fan, but hes a great player
i think he looks better with #8. thats just him. alot of players have 24
pacboy24 2 years ago
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fuck kobe! GO SUNS!
Noonerbits 2 years ago
song: army of doom
chemicalculus 2 years ago
I guess Tony Parker can shoot better then both of them.He has a season where he shot 55% from the field.Think before you post ;-)
00thecool00 2 years ago
tony parker either leads the league in points in the paint or among the top 5 each season. he's lay- upper! not a shooter! if jordan or tony would even attempt the shots kobe can make on the perimeter both of their percentages would'nt even be at kobe's. thats why kobe is a better shooter than both...like we didnt already know that. think b4 you post lol.
nikekid11 2 years ago
Lol.You missed the entire point and that was directed to kareneiron.I was being sarcastic.The point was a higher field goal percentage doesn't always mean a better shooter.I used Tony as an example.Field goal percentage is a result of shot selection/shooting ability.Kobe shoots alot of jumpshots.Tony drives to the hole.That is why his field goal percentage for that season is higher then Kobe and Jordans.Think before you post :-).
00thecool00 2 years ago
lol my bad. i tried to use tony as an example like u did, but not in a sarcastic manner, so ppl can further understand that kobe is actually a better shooter than mj. to contrast jordan's shot selection with kobe's and to allow ppl to understand that percentages are not a direct correlation with shooting ability. because some1 used mj's fg percentage to say that he was better shooter.
nikekid11 2 years ago
if kobe would shoot at around 48% or better (coz now he's only shooting at 45, but still good for a FG percentage anyways....) then i will say he is a better shooter than mj. i remember when he first started off this season almost halfway, he was shooting at a blistering
.487. i wish he was more consistent. and yep, kobe's J is the most graceful in the nba today.
beshrew5 2 years ago
MJ is def a better shooter than kobe.
when mj is at his 30's he relied on jumpshots more so than driving to the lane. just like kobe. the fg percentage is one proof that mj is a better shooter. kobe has had off nights when he shoots 5-20, or 8-23, while jordan never really had those kind of nights while JUMPSHOOTING. so, now, sorry to say that mj is better. oh and dont say kobe has better 3. mj never really attempted behind there.
ps. im a kobe fan but admits mj is better.
beshrew5 2 years ago
kobe has a better 3 point shot to let you know,
59FIFTYMAX 2 years ago
no he doesnt. if you look at the percentage then "yes" but if you look at their make per attempts, jordan doesnt attempt as much as kobe. NOW, look at jordan's percent in the playoffs, you'll see that mj shoots around 33-50% on three. how can kobe be a better shooter?
well, theyre both great players but i just know kobe can be as great if he can shoot a little better. kobe's D is on par with mike. so... there. peace
beshrew5 2 years ago
maybe becuase mj had the advantage of shooting all of his shots right up near the rim. lol jordans shot was the same each time and against undersized defenders. kobe never shoots the same way twice and he shoots from every angle imaginable. even kareem said so. kobe takes inhuman shots while mike was rehaersed and with no range
peponation 2 years ago
you cant argue that if jordan has the ball during clutch time, you know the ball is going in, an issue sometimes on kobe not making clutch shots. i guess jordan jacks up 'smarter' shots than kobe that's why an effective and higher FG %.
oh, what do you mean kobe doesnt shoot the same way twice? i saw him banging up jaret jack more than twice shooting the same the whole game. he scored 40-ish something. now that's smart, and effective.
ps. mj had his time, i know you're a kobe fan.... so am i.
beshrew5 2 years ago
c'mon everyone knows Kobe shoots better, most jordan fans would probably say Kobe's a better shooter, they won't call him better than MJ, but a better shooter,,,,
KobeBryantROXz 2 years ago
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I respect Kobe's skill and heart. But the reason I HATE Kobe is because of his attitude, his dimeener, and mainly cuz hes a cry baby after losing to the Celtics last year.
spick134 2 years ago
what do you mean by his attitude? alot of ppl don't like cause of his attitude, but i don't understand what the problem is. So I'm asking you since you're a Kobe hater, what is it about his attitude that you and so many other ppl dont like??
KobeBryantROXz 2 years ago 2
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Ok ill tell you why i dont like his attitude. People are only thinking about right now how Kobe's acting now that shit is all good and peachy. But 2-3 years ago Kobe was bashing his teammates on Youtube. He was talking shit about Bynum Farmer and Sasha. He was also talking about how he wanted to be traded away from the Lakers. But then as soon as they started winning games hes now talking about his team comes first. It so fake. He wasnt saying that shit when he was losing.
spick134 2 years ago
its a lot u dont know about the realtionship with kobe and the management of the team 3 years ago. this is how it went down:
once shaq got traded kobe understood he was the sole leader of the team but the team was dismantled. there wasnt much of a team besides kobe. u cant win without a team and he understood that. kobe and the lakers had an agreement that they would immediately start to build a winnable team around kobe so they could be back in contention again.
nikekid11 2 years ago 2
things were not moving fast enough for kobe and for laker fans as well. 2 yrs had passed after shaq and it didnt seem like the lakers were trying to make any big moves to get back to winning tradition like they had discussed with kobe yrs b4. wouldn't he have a right to be upset and want to be traded if he felt the team wasn't working to be as good as they could be? especially if its the best player in the league..u need support to win, he didnt have it.
nikekid11 2 years ago
i read about the pau trade and how it was in the plans for the lakers to aquire pau 3 years before they actually did it. i guess they were waiting to build up some players to trade..lmao kwame brown..perfect. even b4 the pau trade in 07-08 season the lakers came off a 1st round 5 game series loss to phx in 1st place in western conf. thru the 1st half of the season and started looking much better. then feb 1, 08 the trade went down. and the lake show was back.
nikekid11 2 years ago
no1 player can win by themself. kobe clearly understood that. thats why he demanded the lakers make moves after the team was depleated- doesnt seem hard to understand why the man was upset. the lakers rookies that were drafted did get better and are still on the team (sasha, andrew, luke, jordan) all got better as lakers players to help the team win a chamionship. not to mention lamar is playing much better and trevor is straight dope. kobe is a 4time champ. his attitude is winning respect it!
nikekid11 2 years ago
I thought it was because of the loss of Andrew Bynum who was playing really good up to that point and they were first in the west before he got injured. But still who cares Lakers 09 champs. Why doesn't anyone complain about the trade for KG,Ray Allen and all those veterans for the Celtics.
Ricesiaw 2 years ago
What do you mean? The trade worked out well for the Celtics. Celtics traded about 5 "ok" players and a draft pick for a "sure All Star" KG who brought depth in the post as well as a good mid-range game and free throw shooting. Ray Allen was a smart choice with pure shooting, free throws and decent defense. Paul Pierce was already an All Star player who has a good inside-outside game and they won a championship their 1st season together. Why would anyone complain about them?
SmoothMM 2 years ago
i dont understand kobe haters at all. i dont think any1 does. i hear too much: i like his game but hate his attitude. wth r u talking about? don't u realize his attitude is the main reason how he lead his team to the finals and got the 2 larry obrien and the bill russel?? dont u c that??! kobe haters are jus slow people i guess. at least u have enuff up there to realize his greatness; many of u haters can't even do that.
nikekid11 2 years ago
spick134 you're a tard. you respect but hate him because he cried? He congratulated the Celtics and as any real competitor would, came back the next year with a vengeance. Admit it, you're hating cause you're just another Kobe Hater.
itsjuspeter 2 years ago 7
KOBE
Giotube93 2 years ago 4
Because Kobe attempts more shots.
and these shots are harder compared to Jordan's.
That's why. Why do people call Kobe a selfish player?
LeBron has more attempts than Kobe and he's not called a selfish player.
Stop hating cuz you know he's the best. /swt
phirephaxL 2 years ago 6
his being kinda selfish because his team mates sucks anyway XD, his the only one that can actually score
lalambz2 2 years ago 3
please stop camparing kobe to jordan..
theres only 1 jordan!!
syfon33 2 years ago 4
i agree there is only one fucking player in the history
johnnykb24 2 years ago
name of the song please :)
JovanH6 2 years ago
name of the song@!
vipersian 2 years ago 2
He'll never get to jordan in terms of accomplishments and accolades, he never even get close but with that being said I actually this kobe has been a better player than jordan for quite some time now. That's just my opinion don't chastise me for it :P
kittycat2062 2 years ago
kobes a better shooter than michael jordan
on average, kobe makes 10 times harder shots than jordan
rachitballer 3 years ago 10
not really he takes the same shots that jordan took, but makes more from a longer distance than jordan, but jordan took shots at the same level of difficulty
goldenstateketchup 3 years ago 2
''Kobe Bryant will go down as the greatest basketball player that has ever lived''
KobeBryantROXz 3 years ago 11
after jordan
bigmickey737 2 years ago
quicker, faster, stronger.. and could jump higher (wr for hangtime)
Those are Skills.....
sling143 3 years ago
wrong
NoMercyDB 2 years ago
Kobe is Skilled I agree on that but to say that he has more skills than Jordan?
Most of Kobe fadeaways where already invented by MJ...
and he had to put up a ton of shots to carry his team that would make him the target of the opponents defense.. He had make to throw difficult shots, either he makes them or not..
(remember the post shaq - pre gasol period?)
and I know someone who took every diffcult shot in the book during his prime too....
A.I.
sling143 3 years ago
yeah. AI. my idol.
deuzeph 3 years ago
To me, Kobe has the best overall SKILL in the NBA.
Iethereal 3 years ago
naahh... MJ more physically gifted?
both stands 6'6.. and plays the guard position..
but, kobe has a reach advantage over jordan... longer wingspan... thats why kobe is unstoppable rising over average NBA guards which is about 6'4-6'5
and he's 205 Lbs. most players that match up to him "atleast" are small forwrds.
I say, Kobe is physically gifted than MJ...
Skilled? Come on its a no brainer....
sling143 3 years ago
yea true, but jordan was quicker, faster, stronger.. and could jump higher (wr for hangtime).. jordan jumped over guards too, he was put @ the 3 spot too.. when the bulls spread the floor with shooters. yes, they put small forwards on him to be more physical. i like kobe, theres no reason why he shouldnt be more skilled.
dcb592 3 years ago
there will rarely ever be a such skilled player like kobe bottom line dont say mj is better no hes not period.
Prudence671 3 years ago
pshh, michael jordan is the best, proof.. 7 time nba champoin!
krumpinAnnanth 3 years ago
Six, but you're close, kid. And you cannot use that in an argument on who is better, i.e. Robert Horry (who I love, until he left the Lakers) has more rings than Charles Barkley, and that's just one example. It's so hard to compare Kobe and Michael because their abilities are on par with each other and they didn't face each other when both were in prime. I would say Michael was more physically gifted, but Kobe has more skill, which makes up the difference, but doesn't surpass.
tommytooclean 3 years ago
being the best and the best skilled is different...
there is no reason why kobe shouldn't be more skilled than jordan. jordan was more physically gifted than kobe, but im close to giving kobe the skilled title. jordan just wouldn't let himself lose, or his team.. jordan is still better
dcb592 3 years ago
song?
therobinslideshow 3 years ago
crazi omg how the hell does he do tat whenever he makes em it doesn even touch the rim ..... lol he should have an aprentice, cause if he doesnt once he retires the nba is gonna be realli boring for me
azngothopz 3 years ago
look out for OJ MAYO.. hes the next superstar breed for shooting guards... has great work ethic too.
dcb592 3 years ago 2
yeah ture say.
krumpinAnnanth 3 years ago
whats that guy say at about 1:30 ?????????
asdfjkl516 3 years ago
Kobe has such a superb body control. To be able to fadeaway and elevate, depending only on his upper body strength and control to shoot the ball in. You need heck a lot of body control to do that.
rainbowcicak 3 years ago
what is the name of the song ? can you please tell me title of the song thanx =)
karl1423 3 years ago
ok this is cool and all..but i dont get it. it just looks like one of his regular jumpshots. can someone explain whats so special about it and what makes is so hard to me?
lazystevie 3 years ago
try to make a shot while jumping backwards with full force, you'll know what's so great about these shots ;)
tks91 3 years ago
some of them he doesnt even look at the rim plus most are fadeaways
johnthecoolguy 3 years ago
Thou hast escaped me! he repeated more than once, Thou hast escaped me!(306)
k24bfan 3 years ago
holy cow dude, all those shots were over someone and they were all net
ajtmusic 3 years ago
greatest to ever live......... well, next to me
diamonte5 3 years ago
same kind of shot everytime in this video....face up puller...and still no1 can stop it
tdotballer90 3 years ago
look at all the clocks at the time he was shooting. look at the scores. every one of those shots he took was clutch. its not a gamewinner but those shots are very clutch. all stepping up. this vid really should go out to please who say kobe is bust in the clutch.
only un-clutch shot was vs. SAC but he hates them anyway haha
XBball4lifeX 3 years ago 3
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to all da kobenuthuggers mike would avg. 45 points a game in diz era of da NBA ye feel me real talk 91-93(dont even got 2 bring out 84-90 jordan)polished jordan would make kobe look like how kobe make T-mac look 2nd best ye dig..lmao t-mac still shit on yobe
niiieman2da 3 years ago
i love using this move
peteandjordanlover23 3 years ago
behind*
mreman3000 3 years ago
just take in 1:43. thats looks like its behingd the back board. who else does that with consistency?
mreman3000 3 years ago
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He does it once and you say he does it consistently?
SolidSnakeRules 3 years ago
What if Kobe would put a higher arc on his shot, a Ben Gordon arc.
garyboy46 3 years ago
He makes his shots so easy but when average players do it, its all brick
vipersian 4 years ago 3
"kobe bryant will go down as the greatest basketball player that has ever lived" kobe= greatest of all time so far, he has passed jordan, not in accomplishments(even though jordan had a stacked team for a longer period of time) but in skill level. Watch jordan tapes, and take another look at this video. kobe is a scoring machine
mreman3000 4 years ago 3
lmao you must have lost your damn mind mreman, kobe hasn't passed michael jordan you idiot, not even close. Go watch michael jordan vids
FlamesXT10 3 years ago
jordan is OLD NEWS
sabybear 3 years ago
what you mean old news? he's a legend you retard
FlamesXT10 3 years ago 2
still old news
sabybear 3 years ago
whats old news? you dont forget legends, just because he's retired, doesn't make him better than kobe
FlamesXT10 3 years ago 2
i have watched as many jordan videos as i have kobe bryants, and when i watch kobe's videos he does things in more difficult situations. are u serious, jordan hit fadeaways like this? nah man, u can be a jordan fan if u want to, i am too, i just think kobe's shot is better, mid & long range. The fact that u said "not even close" makes me laugh. Get serious.
mreman3000 3 years ago 2
i agree wit mreman3000
sabybear 3 years ago
what are u talking about? kobe isn't even close to jordan, are u joking or something, lmmfao!!!
FlamesXT10 3 years ago
Lol mreman3000 ur 19 years old man..Dont talk about what u dont know..U watched MJ vids huh? Not enough vids i guess if u didnt see MJ doin the same thing KB is doin now. Take it from someone who actually watched MJ's career..Fadeaway threes, double pump threes, behind the backboard u name it MJ has done it. U should pick ur vids better.
rrTale 3 years ago 2
Wow you're stupid. For every 1 of these "difficult" shots that Kobe makes, there are 5 that he misses. For every 1 fade away he makes, there are 2 that he misses. You don't see those in mixes, do you? He's missed a lot more shots than he has made. True greatness is NOT taking these stupid shots. Jordan's fade away was better because it went in more, end of story. Who cares how far from the basket it is? If it goes in more, it's a better shot. Period.
SolidSnakeRules 3 years ago
Michael was far more efficient. Their mid range shots are similiar, but Michael went to it more then Kobe does. Most of these are bad shots to take. It does not matter whether you can hit them, they are low percantage shots and show either low Basketball I.Q. or ego. Long range he is better, not by much. Every other skill Michael is ahead, especially defensively and intangibles.
chitownmo 3 years ago
Although i agree with most of what u said i have to disagree with the long range bit. Dont fall for that. KB isnt better than MJ at 3's. He just takes them a lot more which inflates his percentages. KB often starts cold from the 3. If he shot 1 or 2 threes per game like MJ did in his younger years u can be sure his % would be pathetic.
rrTale 3 years ago
I not just referring to 3 point shots, I was referring to deep shots in general. Kobe takes and makes difficult shots more than any player I have ever seen on any level. The nature of the shots are more difficult. Michael rarely if ever took those type of shots, but Kobe is more proficient at them than anyone in League history. They are bad shots in nature, but require a tremendous amount of skill to hit them at the rate that he does. Kobe is using the mid range shot more, which is good.
chitownmo 3 years ago 4
U mean fadeaway 3's? MJ made them too.. But its like u said, if he takes them a lot more than anyone in the history of the game, he sure is gonna hit some. Again i wouldnt fool myself into thinkin he has some kind of unhuman ability to make them when he tries them so much..
But hey opinions..
rrTale 3 years ago
I agree with the most you have said, although I think the main difference between kobe and jordan is in basketball maturity, not skills. the point is, kobe has taken a way more difficult shots then he had to in his career, while MJ was all about creating the best opportunity for himself and his teammates. only over the past 2 years, kobe has started to play at jordan type level, trusting his teamates more and taking less of the impossible shots.
Killuminati1996 3 years ago 3
I agree with most of it but kobe and jordan have the same defense, post up game & just bout eveything else. MJ has an edge in intangibles & shot selection although kobe can make difficult ones. Kobe has da edge in outside game & handles. Kobe in his early yrs w/o horry, fox, shaq, fisher etc had to take alot of shots so da team could compete in games. He shoots less now bc he doesnt have to anymore.
wzup44 3 years ago
get your facts straight. shaq and most of this players u mentioned were already with the lakers when kobe joined the team. they also had van exel and eddie jones starting at guard positions, so he had to come off the bench in his first 2 years.
Killuminati1996 3 years ago
idiot, i was talkin about the 04-06 seasons. thats kobes early yrs w/o the players i mentioned. everyone knows kobe came off of the bench cause harris doesnt play young players. learn to read and understand
wzup44 3 years ago
your mom is idiot,fuckin son of the bitch. you like insulting ppl over the net for no reason? little pussy faggot.Learn to speak and write properly fuckin moron.you said "kobe in his early years didnt have shaq, horry" etc.So you are either a stupid fucktard who doesnt know shit about b-ball, or you are a fuckin mentally-retarded idiot with the intelectual capabilities of a 5-year-old kid for not being able to express yourself in simple sentences.How could kobe's "early years" be 04-06 seasons?!
Killuminati1996 3 years ago
It all depends on how Kobe decides to play. When he does like Jordan and takes 2-3 3pointers a game, like how hes doing in the playoffs, his FG% is higher. He's shooting 50% so far.
MoGunz24 3 years ago 2
because he penetrates more then he was doing in the regular season. If he took shots lebron did whole season, his fg% would be 55-60%. However,lebron cant do shit against real defense because unlike kobe he doesnt have an outside game
Killuminati1996 3 years ago
kobe took shots because he had to, and it still wasn't enough. once shaq left kobe was left with some crappy teams that he had to carry. even with him averaging 40 ppg for over a month his team couldnt get it done. as for kobe taking bad shots etc, it doesnt really matter as long as he makes a decent percentage of them, and he does.
as for mj kobe comparisons, kobes outside game is far better than mj's. no disrespect but your talking about the man who drained 12 threes in a game, 9 in a row
billclinton 3 years ago 3
no shit genius...tell me something I dont know
Killuminati1996 3 years ago
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laugh my ass off defense u have got to be kidding me Jordan>Kobe end of discussion no comparsion Kobe is Kobe Jordan is Jordan Kobe=biggest swagger jacker of all time i think the only person who will surpass Jordan statistic wise and could be better than him will Be Lebron James
peteandjordanlover09 3 years ago
KOBE > JORDAN any day of the week.
jumpman3210 3 years ago
Jordan, Russell, Chamberlain, Magic, and Bird > Kobe any day of the week.
nbahistorian23 3 years ago
Kobe's dick > all any day of NBA history
jumpman3210 3 years ago
LOOOL
Kev2501 3 years ago
do you ever see Lebron shoot better than mike or kobe lebron is a highflyer nothing more!!
666dvl666 3 years ago
U hardly ever see Mj Post up as much and as good as Kobe because MJs offensive Mindset was different and in this basketball era guards are becoming more versatile in terms of scoring so in MJs era scoring was in a different phase
Ns205 3 years ago 2
Kobe Bryant is the best player in the game today, but better than Jordan in skill level? That is debatable. Bryant is not the defender that Jordan was, nor the rebounder nor passer. Michael was far more efficient on both ends with better intangibles. Have you seen the old Jordan videos from Hoopsencyclopedia? Kobe has never played with that type of charisma nor fluidity. Long range shooting is the only skill I will state that Bryant has over Jordan.
chitownmo 3 years ago
i have to agree with blueballgamer.... lebron or wade dont have that touch that kobe has..kobe just haves a gift that no one else has..he just kobe and nobody else all he has to do is to keep his dick in his pans and he will go down as one of the best of all times..
chivas4life0023 4 years ago
what do u mean KOBE wants to play like MIKE?? alot of people dont understand that GREAT PLAYERS play ALIKE.. and even if he is copying MIKE>.. By god.. i bet no one else can do taht.
880330145789 4 years ago 9
im not sure how you can watch this and not be impressed....im sorry but lebron james and dwayne wade cannot master this type of unstoppable shot
blueballgamer 4 years ago 8
????...i don't know what that statement is in reference to but Kobe was a Laker before Shaq was a thought in Jerry Bus's head.
gqiq 4 years ago
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Jordan and Kobe are great players. Jordan by far is the better player and Kobe has a chance to go down as a top 5 player from his own era. Jordan should be compared to Shaq and Duncan who are the only leaders with multi-championships. Read my channel description. I guarantee you that it teaches you more about the game and the history of MJ and the history of Kobe.
Lebronmvp07 4 years ago
Respectfully, you are wrong. Jordan is NOT BY FAR.. the better player. Kobe should not be compared to shaq (They are two different players) Shaq himself CALLED KOBE the best player in the nba when KObe was only 22..
Regnova 4 years ago 4
Foolz!!! XD
Jmcp24 4 years ago
i've always disliked kobe for some reason. i've spoken negatively about him on numerous occasions. i guess it's prolly coz' im a big MJ fan and i think he tries to play it off like he's the next mike. although admist all my negativity towards him i've never neglected his talent, i just ddnt dig his manorism but with the new dream team he's really shown me something different. especially with his defense, way to go kobe, keep it up!
ryanyeh913 4 years ago 12
awesome vid!!! wads the title of the song u used?
tekkenlong 4 years ago
Why do little fanboys flame on Kobe for being good at what he does? Yeah, he's sometimes a ballhog, he's sometimes a jerk and maybe a rapist, so what? That doesn't stop him from being in the ranks of MJ, Wilt and such. You pussies just have to accept the fact that he belongs in that category and will finish his career being one, Pussies.
kukreisis 4 years ago 5
well said
letmelogthefuckin 4 years ago
Do you even look at stats?
Jackpwnz 4 years ago
Mark Jackson is such a hack
flamethisuser 4 years ago
hahha this debate again...look, kobe's either the best or one of the best in the league as far as pure athletic talent is concerned. but friends, it takes far more than athletic talent to win championships! in my honest opinion kobe's mini-mike, a sheer mimicry of the greatest.
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jump24man 4 years ago
o yeah not mention 30 points in a quarter vs the jazz 10 50 point games in a season and barkley reggie kenny the jet lebron wade mike d'antoni gilbert arenas and countless others even say kobes the best right now and average most assist on his team andtony parker is a foul line and under player meanin closer to the basket higher percentage shots dumbass
joshd9124 4 years ago
whoa zopoundsakpase ur a an idiot kobes the best face it and if you hate the guy wy wach his videos fucking loser and he did score 81 points in a game and 4 straight 50+ games 2 of them 60+ avergae 40 points in a month scorin champ 2 yrs 62 in 3 quarters
joshd9124 4 years ago
lolz
flamethisuser 4 years ago
yo dunn. how many shots do you think MJ takes in a season... he's the greatest BALLHUG in the entire NBA. he averages 1800 attemps in a season... kobe doesn't take more shots than MJ and he still ends up posting huge points.
nemesiz201 4 years ago
Let me tell you why FG % doesn't count...
Kwame has a 59% FG for the season.. is he better than MJ? MJ has never hit 59% for a season....
It is this simple... few attempts = high FG
If you say that the laker team shoots better than KB; that means Kwame, and odom are better than MJ himself..
besides; Free Ts, steals, 3pts don't count towards Fg... tell me how Kb's team is shooting better?
nemesiz201 4 years ago
UTfanatic keeps talking about FG%..even MJ had struggles; UT keeps citing one instance; that doesn't count at all.
If I take 6 shots and sink 4 that's 67%... that doesn't mean I'm helping my team... especially when peolple like kwame and odom can do more... they both rather pass the ball than drive in or dunk even when there's a clear lane.
What about drawing fouls,Free throws, Defense, attitude... like being aggressive... Nobody -apart from KB- on the laker team wants to win.
nemesiz201 4 years ago
you dumb fuck nenesiz,when we say fg percentage bitch were not talking about some fuck like kwame brown who shoots 6 fuckin times a game moron
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
you dumber fuck-tart i was talking to utfanatic who compared KB and Kwame... know stuff before you start throwing beef... douche!
nemesiz201 4 years ago
kobe shot them out of it? who took them in the win for game 2 moron? yeah he has to shoot out of the offense to get the points..usually when that happens they win? dumbass phil even had MJ plays out of the triangle for the bulls to win..get your facts straight..
reiflores8 4 years ago
for instance three pointers which he doen't make a decent percentage of,he isn't athletic enough to get to the rim so he has to settle for jump shots little bastard,thats his problem not mine
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
For one thing, you obviously do not know how to judge ability, as Kobe is still athletic, although not as much as he use to be, due to his injuries and wear and tear, but he still a borderline elite level athlete.
chitownmo 4 years ago
lmao this bitch chitownmo,said "his shooting percentage is not a matter of efficency",lmao then wtf is it then,if he converts at a high clip then he's should be taking all the shots
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
Name another Laker, or even a player in the League that can do what he does any time out on the floor? None, not TD, Shaq, LBJ, Melo, A.I., no one. Pure skill, he has no equal, and not for awhile.
chitownmo 4 years ago
oh thats what you must mean,thats a big fuckin no,just because he scores alot of points doesn't mean he scores them efficently,and without taking away from the team concept
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
lets see if he could score those same points without taking a million shots a game,his field goal percentage is worst than tony parkers,and he's a bigger player than parker bitch and supposedly stronger
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
Kobe is the best player in the League for the last several years, and the best perimeter player since MJ in 98. I have never said that he was better than MJ, he is not, but he is better than everyone else, especially in pure skill. If you actually analyzed his game the way scouts do, such as myself, people who work and are around players like Bryant on a daily basis, you would understand that, but you don't, so please keep you ignorant rantings to yourself.
chitownmo 4 years ago
and why don't you define best for me asshole since you keep running it,he's the best at what exactly,making his teammates better,thats a no,rebounding thats a no,playing defense thats a no,passing thats a no,turning the ball over thats a yes
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
Kobe is 5 and 5 for his career as a rebounder and passer, which is solid for a shooting guard, and he has been on the All-Defensive team for 7 of the last 8 years. Bye, I am done with you, regardless of what you type. Go do your homework, read a book, or something better than making a complete schmuck of yourself.
chitownmo 4 years ago
him on the defensive team,is a fuckin joke pussy he got lit up by gilbert arenas,lebron james and dwayne wade,carmelo,and a host of other perimeter players go fuck yourself with the defense thing chitownmo,your arguments have been stomped
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
yeah jordan takes alot of shots,do you know why bitch ass memesiz,its because his fg percentage was better than his entire team ever since he entered the nba, (kobe's fg percentage is not)and was among the highest in the league
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
lol and then you see when jordan left everybody on the team's fg % went up.
justpflo 4 years ago
yes! but they ddnt win any games! so what are you trying to reference with ur statement? i dont understand...
ryanyeh913 4 years ago
Even Anti-Kobe fans like Utfantatic2000 and BruceBlitz know that Kobe is great, and is a Hall of Famer, even though they dislike the way he plays at times, even I do too, he is not perfect. But his combination of skill, athleticism, and determination makes him the best in the game. He is not the best person, not by a long shot, but the best player.
chitownmo 4 years ago
if he's clinking jumper after jumper then why in the fuck does he continue to shoot huh moron
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
Most players go towards shots they know they can make, even when they are not falling, Kobe is not the only player to do this. It is called reinforced function, especially in tight situations players go to what feels the most comfortable, even when it is unsuccessful. That is not justifiable, but it is understandable, and common.
chitownmo 4 years ago
If you actually know how to judge talent, and know the changes that the game has undergone for the last 15 years, you would better understand why he and other players in the League shoot the lower percentage that most shoot at, which goes beyond the NBA level, down to the grassroot level in base instruction and development, but you would know nothing about that.
chitownmo 4 years ago
is he the best scorer or the most winning player in the league. he can't even lead his team to 50 wins asshole save it
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
lets see..when kobe utilizes his team? what happens they get torched..when kobe scores do they win? apparently so? when kobe gets his team involved I.E. the suns series..they LOST! get your facts straight..MJ had a team to score..everyone on that team was reliable let alone consistent..look at lamar..always complaints about lack of consistency..smush lake of effort..kwame..lack of consistency..thats the core of the team moron
reiflores8 4 years ago
Kobe's team often loses when Kobe shoots a lot bc he shoots so poorly. For instance, game 5 against the suns, Kobe goes a horrid 13-33 for 39% with only 1 assist while his team shoots 53% and Odom is on fire at 13-21 at 63%. Kobe is a poor team player and poor leader. The lakers can't win with him as leader. Nobody can.
utfanatic2000 4 years ago
Do you ever take a day off?
chitownmo 4 years ago
kobe averages 46% and lower in most of his games, he shouldn't be taking the amount of shots that he does because he takes low percentage shots to begin with bitch,
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
His shooting percentage is not a matter of efficiency, especially when you actually see him play. He makes plays that no one else in the League can make almost at will. Most of his shooting flaws have been to his lack of trust in his teammates, which is partially justified, and his competitiveness.
chitownmo 4 years ago
Your insults are unjust, and frankly unwarranted, take your ignorant rantings somewhere else please, and leave the real Kobe analysis to a real analyst like Utfanatic2000.
chitownmo 4 years ago
he should at that time either pass the ball or look for a higher percentage shot dumb fuck,he can't get the higher percentage shot because he can't finish like jordan could at the rim
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
so if he can't do that then he should look to pass the ball or take less shots you fuckin drip
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
Kobe mostly drives to hole late in games. As you may not know, he has had several knee surgeries, as well as the constant wear and tear on his legs, resulting in his change in playing style. MJ did the same thing after his first comeback, but did not play with the ultra competitiveness that Bryant plays with, which is reasonable, that has been counterproductive at times, and more with sound intelligence and teamplay, due to the Bulls great squad then.
chitownmo 4 years ago
excuses,excuse bitch,i don't want to hear it,if he's the socalled best he should be able to score in all the pahses of the game cocksucker chiownmo,you're the rambler ,i make perfect sense because i know basketball you don't. i'm not caught up in the hype of kobe you are
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago