Honestly, I'm not sure what to think, I've known persons who have supposedly gone through this. if this is real and of God, and it really heals the soul, I really need it at this point. :-(
The only time in scripture that God laughs is in derision against the raging heathen. The Holy Spirit convicts the lost of their sin, and brings joy (not laughter) to the saved.
@aioee NO where in the BIBLe does it say..when the holyghost came over someone..they laughed..continuously..there has to be some kind of order..i know this mess would NOT fly in Church of God in Christ. Go study Pauls teachings to Corinth About the Holyghost.
@thecritiquevirtuoso Funny you would say that! (pun intended) This actually prevents the mental institution because it breaks off the fear of man. How? All of us are full of the pain of rejection, abuse, trauma, shame... This pain distorts our identity, causes us to walk in pride, suspicion, unable to trust with walls up. It causes bondage, addictions, bad habits, & bad attitudes we get when struggle to please others, to be right, to deal with pain. Learn more on my profile.
@durrtyballa yes it is real & it is biblical on Pentecost the bystanders said the apostles were DRUNK & Peter said No this is what the prophet Joel prophesied - look it up in the book of Acts
@durrtyballa Yes, I have experienced it. It is very real. Check out the many videos on this phenomenon called God's glory, such as the glory cloud (of gold dust) at Bethel, or the literal clouds of mist or rain falling inside of churches. Check out the videos of angels singing with Jason Upton or Elias or in Kansas City or Israel. God has always let us know he is there but few believe it unless they see it or feel it. Even then, as you can see here, there is great opposition.
@HealedandOpenHearts By the way, I have a bunch of those videos on my profile. Message me and I can tell and show you oh so much more! It is very exciting!
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law." (Galatians 5:22-23)
"A man without self-control is like a city broken into and left without walls." (Proverbs 25:28)
@Keruaran START reading the Bible:Acts 2 ...they asked... “What does this mean?” Some, however, made fun of them &said, “They have had too much wine. Then Peter stood up with the Eleven and addressed the crowd: “Fellow Jews and all of you who live in Jerusalem, let me explain; listen carefully to what I say. These people ARE NOT DRUNK AS U SUPPOSE It’s only9 in the morning! No, this is what was prophet Joel said"In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
@Keruaran This is not a loss of control. These people choose to submit to the Lord's free gift of grace. Religious pride and control are things God wants us to get set free from. Do we gotta look religious to be righteous? No! Think about it. That is self-righteousness, an idol before God, to make you righteous absent of His grace. Those fruits you talk about are rarely seen among the religious because they are so pent up with the fear of man that they always feel the need to be right.
You have not supported a single statement you've made with scripture. Everything you've said is merely your opinion. And you have maligned the grace of God by associating His grace with people behaving like complete fools. And "those fruits" are what SCRIPTURE talks about. If you rarely see them, you're in the wrong Church.
I usually laugh when something is funny. Just a quirk of my personality. There people are emotiionally disturbed.. OR just confused and following the 'pied piper'
Like I said, the only way we can judge a person is by the fruit on their tree. That's what the bible says. We'll never meet this woman so we'll never see hers. What happened here is between her & God anyway. I believe in it because I've experienced it many times & each time, I came out a better person, changed, better life, and closer to my Lord & Savior. His presence is real and good. Satan is not a part of my life in anyway whatsoever:) Goodnight...
@HisLily7 2) ..not also the one who causes it (Holy Laughter) in church? U cant exclude this possibility then.(Except u say it depends on the place where it happens.if it happens in church its the HS,if it happens at a guru-setting its Satan)
u: "I've never heard of Satan causing joy", "I believe joy only comes from God"
i: ok, then (again) why is Holy laughter and other strange church phenomena also happen in non-christian places like guru-sessions? It's GOD then instead of Satan?
@TheK1N1 because the source is different so one is genuine, the other is a counterfeit- a good counterfeit looks very much like the original. Counterfeits r to deceive! Only God/Christ is the Creator. Other spiritual forces are counterfeits. they cannot create anything except falsehoods- counterfeits. As you learn the truth thru study of Bible thru the indwelling Holy Spirit you will see these matters come clearer & clearer. receive Christ as Lord & Savior to receive the Holy Spirit.
@jwsyt2@jwsyt2 You're using the same argument as HisLily
u:Yes it can be the Holy Spirit who causes that in church! And in non-christian settings it's Satan who causes that.
So here's my same argument to you
i: Ok,so u say Satan is able to do exactly the same that the Holy Spirit does in church. What then makes u sure that Satan is ..not also the one who causes it (Holy Laughter) in church? U cant exclude this possibility then.
@TheK1N1 God NEVER gives his children anything negative or satanic: see Matthew 7:9 onwards and Luke 11:11 onwards God gives only good things to those who ask for the Holy Spirit.. hope this clarifies-
PS:You should repent from your judgemental spirit. You can't conclude that everyone who doesnt share the exactly same opinion like u didnt receive Christ or doesnt have the Holy Spirit.
"As you learn the truth thru study of Bible" It's very arrogant of u to think I didnt study the bible just because I didnt come to the same conclusions than u!I DID study the Bible and Not even ONCE! in the Bible "the joy of the Lord" is mentioned as expressing itself in uncontrollable laughter
@TheK1N1 I regret offending you. A very good non-denominational Biblical explanation about this topic of can be found here: on youtube type in Derek Prince Receive the Holy Spirit. Parts 1 thru 6 give you the bilbical explanations as to receiving the Holy Spirit. a blessed Christmas to you
Holy laughter people often defend their practices as being of God, while these other practices are counterfeits. But holy laughter as we know it today came lately. All attempts to link it to Scripture or early revival history are without merit. Its real precedent is coincidental to New Age philosophy. Does God mimic something Satan originates? Or is He taken off guard by Satan? Then He would be guilty of causing confusion among His people. And God is not the author of confusion. (1 Cor. 14:33)
@TheK1N1 Amen! God is not the author of confusion and I am not confused:) I do believe that He is the author of joy. We can ONLY judge a person by the fruit on the tree:)
Jude 19-20 "These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit. But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost."
James 3:15 "This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish."
Sensual experiences and ecstatic experientials highs are a poor substitute for the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit in a Christian's life.
@skaha77 What I obviously can't get through your mind is that, YES I WAS born again and, YES I did have Jesus in my body and whole life and for a long, long time - try 50 years, BUT, little by little I saw the flaws with the whole yarn and little by little started seeing that it is just the very same as all the other saviours who lived before J.C. came along and all of his 'miracles' are copied, almost word for word from earlier times. I've seen through it and can never go back now.
@zideffil u say u were born again but evidently u never were.Were u baptized in water thru immersion? above all were u baptized in the Holy Spirit? did u move in the gifts of the Holy Spirit such as tongues, healing, prophecy, etc? Did you minister healing to others? Did you WITNESS MIRACLES in your walk with Jesus? Was the supernatural a vital part of your walk with Christ? Evidently not. Yet all these things r the sign of a CHRISTian according to...CHRIST Himself see Mark16:17 & 18
@TheK1N1 )As you personally, I & every other follower of Christ are COMMANDED BY JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF we are ALL to move in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. So please do NOT DISOBEY Jesus. Pls get baptized in the Holy Spirit TODAY then begin moving in the gifts of mark 16 :17 -19. Did Jesus perform these things because He was God? No! He did them as a Man THRU THE POWER OF THE HS. That is why WE ALL can do them . As every follower of Christ I have indeed moved in all these things see 2).
@TheK1N1 2) We do not tempt God, Satan told Jesus to fall from the Temple top...so i have not gulped poison intentionally, Nor have i been bitten by a serpent. The verse does not instruct us to drink poison or to pick up snakes.Rather obviously It says that we are protected from the toxicity of these things by God. As I give thanks & BLESS my food I know that God is making it good- removing those things that can be harmful. Hope this clarifies
@skaha77 Thank you for your kind wishes.I wish that God blesses and keeps you too and makes us strong and gives us the power to show people His love trough us.
@HisLily7 is there any verse in the bible where "being filled with joy" (not with the holy spirit but with joy!) is mentioned? And what about my arguments that I adressed directly at you? Do you agree with me on that?
@TheK1N1 I've never heard of Satan causing joy but I have heard of witches who get power from Satan to heal people. I'm not sure what you mean by discerning the spirits by the setting. I don't think setting has anything to do with it. It has to do with what is going on in the person's heart, their hunger for more of God & we can only judge them by the "fruit on the tree". There are tons of scriptures about joy. I believe joy only comes from God. We could argue scripture all day long...
@HisLily7 The bible is not going to describe every emotional experience of people, whether they laughed or cried. I honestly have to get to bed so I don't have time for debate. I can only testify that I have experienced this kind of joy many times & each time, my life was changed for the better, I was set free from junk in my life & went deeper in my relationship with Jesus. You can believe it or not, His presence is real:)
i: Holy laughter and other strange church phenomena also happen in non-christian places like guru-sessions.Therefore this cant be the Holy sprit who causes that,cuz why would He cause that in non-christian settings?
u:Yes it can be the Holy Spirit who causes that in church! And in non-christian settings it's Satan who causes that.
i: Ok,so u say Satan is able to do exactly the same that the Holy Spirit does in church. What then makes u sure that Satan is
because the source is different so one is genuine, the other is a counterfeit- a good counterfeit looks very much like the original. Counterfeits r to deceive! Only God/Christ is the Creator. Other spiritual forces are counterfeits. they cannot create anything except falsehoods- counterfeits. As you learn the truth thru study of Bible thru the indwelling Holy Spirit you will see these matters come clearer & clearer. receive Christ as Lord & Savior to receive the Holy Spirit.
@TheK1N1 satan can create nothing because God is Creative. Satan can ONLY make COUNTERFEITS of God's works. Remember in the Bible how the false prophets and magicians imitated the miracles of Moses & Elijah but were defeated? So today: satan can produce apparent "healing" thru healers, people can make predictions thru the satanic power of divination rather than God's gift of prophecy of His Holy Spirit etc.Simply put:: God's genuine gifts of his Holy Spirit & satan's counterfeits
@HisLily7 with "discerning the spirits by the setting" I meant, that if Satan is able to create the exactly same phenomenons and feelings than the Holy Spirit in church, than the only way to discern the spirits is by the place.Like for instance
"I get healed in a new age setting/place and fall back to the ground, well this must be Satan" vs.
"I get healed and fall back to the ground.Hmm, where am I now? In church? Oh than now this must be the Holy Spirit"
@TheK1N1 1Corinthains12:10 the gift of the Holy Spirit of DISCERNMENT allows you 2 discern the source of phenomena eg divination rather than prophecy. Pls watch Derek Prince seriesReceive the Holy Spirit on youtube pray & receive baptism in the Holy Spirit. Jesus does not suggest but COMMANDS it. No Christian is to be without active use of the gifts of the Holy Spirit.that would be like a soldier without weapons or a worker without tools!pls let me know if you got baptized inHolySpirit
@TheK1N1 No... you gotta have the baptism of the Holy Spirit to be able to discern many times. Look at the fruit of the lives of those participating & the vessels doing the ministry. You might point to Todd Bentley. Like all of us he was not perfect (also young) & God used him to challenge us. The overall fruit was there. Like reading the Bible & seeing the whole picture versus only one section. Some judge God to be vengeful this way when He is not. Check my blog for more, see profile.
@TheK1N1 there are two separate receptions of the Holy Spirit: one at salvation the other thru baptism in the Holy Spirit. to save me time & typing , please See" Derek Prince receive the Holy Spirit" on Youtube- follow thru 1 -6 then please let me know if you were baptized in the Holy Spirit and if you received the gift of tongues. blessings
@kenstasia That is an incorrect usage of that chapter. If you were referring to being orderly, that was referring to taking turns because the Holy Spirit can be so energizing (Hebrew term naba) that the excitement can cause people not to hear important words from the Lord due to not taking turns. The entirety of Scripture speaks of shedding our pride, depending on God, not turning to idols like masks of pious religion for our self-righteousness. Check out my blog, see profile 4 more.
@kenstasia (continued...) Nothing sheds pride and sets our uptight, wounded hearts free from man-pleasing fear like laughter, rolling on the floor, shaking, wobbling, & the tangible Presence of God's awesome Love. I pointed you to my blog to help you understand this movement better. Healing wounded hearts can bring unity back to the Church, whereas the spirit of strife is based upon stinky pride. Pride comes from fears, suspicions, shame, & walls to protect our wounded hearts.
I experienced this in the mid-90s. Absolutely God-inspired. What's really neat is that laughter--be it genuine or fake--releases feel-good hormones. Many people who have experienced this laughter have also been healed of depression. Recent science of neuroplasticity has shown that positive emotion can actually heal trauma. I wouldn't be surprised if God was using laughter to heal. Anyway, laughing is fun, people are too serious man.
@theoriginalskinsey AMEN!! I have experienced this joy many times in my 18 yr walk with the Lord and each time, I was set free from stuff, came out a better person (with more fruit on my tree) and felt closer to God. Not a thing wrong with that! We can ONLY judge a person by the fruit on the tree!
Acts 2 ...they asked one another, “What does this mean?” Some, however, made fun of them and said, “They have had too much wine. Then Peter stood up with the Eleven and addressed the crowd: “Fellow Jews and all of you who live in Jerusalem, let me explain this to you; listen carefully to what I say. These people are not drunk, as you suppose. It’s only nine in the morning! No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel. In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people."
This isn't in the bible, but it is a quote by P.T. Barnham: 'There's a sucker born every minute" In Canada, people are spending over 12 billion dollars a year on lottery tickets, which pay back about 1.2 cents on the dollar. Then there's the laughing ministries.
@skaha77 I couldn't agree more. It is astounding how many completely STUPID people there are everywhere. If only they could realise the simple truth that gods were invented by men and every god is only an extension of each man's heart. That is the reason why 'god' is so very different from place to plce. There's actually nothing to argue over nor to fight wars over at all except for greed.
@zideffil Well there's one thing I think we are divided on: GOD is real, he is Holy, and we can know him personally, through his SON, the Lord Jesus Christ. who was delivered for OUR offences, and raised again (from the dead) for our justification. Much fighting isn't over greed as much as lust for power, and only by pride comes contention. You can have a realtionship with almighty God and he can be your real heavenly father. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and U will be saved, and know it
@skaha77 Well, I hope that you are young and still have lots of time in which to evolve. I too was a Christian for most of my life and I can remember praying when I was all of 5 years old. I felt Jesus in me, and outside me, helping me and I loved him and all that. The Presbyterian church where I went for years though, sees a LOT of the Bible stories just as pleasant stories for the children - alegories, and nothing more but, the Baptists see it differently, Methodists again cont'd...
@zideffil You don't 'feel' Jesus. You either belong to him, or you don't. You were never saved. You never knew him and he never knew you. It's not too late, though.Whosoever shall call apon the name of the lord SHALL BE SAVED.
@skaha77 If you 're going to use semantics to make your point, well,...I realise that I have been conversing with a complete brainwashed dummy. You 'know' so very much about me and about my relationship with Jesus, yet you have never met me. That says it all regarding what you're about. Nothing that would interest me in the least. Just keep deluding yourself, I guess, is my only suggestion.
@skaha77 cont'd...differently and on and on. I got so tired of asking questions about this and that and NEVER getting an intelligent answer to any of them, so I started checking up on ancient history and was astounded at what I found. I found TONS of info that totally blew the Bible myths out of the water. Try some Barbara Walker, Christopher Hitchens, and Richard Dawkins. Oh,...DO read books by D.M. Murdock. You will be astounded by the sheer amount of solid info all around us.
@zideffil Hitchens and Dawkins = LOSERS. Why would I wastem my time reading what the devil's children are saying? The bible is the word of God. That said, you have heard the gospel and chosen to reject the Lord Jesus Christ and his offer of everlasting life, and total forgiveness for all of your sin. I don't feel one bit sorry for you, but on judgment day you will be cast into the Lake of Fire that burns forever. U won't see any of your friends there b/c that would bring relief
@zideffil 1) "I got so tired of asking questions about this and that and NEVER getting an intelligent answer to any of them" I really feel sorry for you that people in your church never answered you but I think you shouldnt fall for the first who answers you. So if you're listening to the arguments of atheists and new agers you should at least listen to the counterarguments of the christian side as well before you give into it.Did you ever listen what christian Apologetics had to say?
@TheK1N1 Christian apologetics have nothing of intelligene to say at all. They just repeat endlessly the same age-old myths on and on and on... Poor, poor lost sheep.
@zideffil 2) They are there to prevent an intelligent answer cuz Christian apologetics (from Greek ἀπολογία, "speaking in defense") is a field of Christian theology that aims to present a rational basis for the Christian faith, defend the faith against objections, and expose the perceived flaws of other world views. Apologists have based their defense of Christianity on historical evidence, philosophical arguments, scientific investigation, and arguments from other disciplines.
@zideffil 3) Therefore they have as well "TONS of solid info". Ravi Zacharias is an excellent apologetic and he has lots of logical arguments for why he is not an atheist, and he also adresses bible myths and shows the logical flaws in doctrines like the new age one.
You can listen to his arguments here on youtube ("Ravi Zacharias at his best") and see if it does make sense to you. Cuz how can you be sure you're right if you dont know the christian counterarguments are wrong? Right?;-)
@zideffil 4) God said "If you seek me with all your heart I will be found by you" I hope you you dont give up too soon in your search but also seek Him in the apologetic area.
And please dont get turned off by other "christians" wrong behavior.Just because they act in a certain manner doesnt mean that God is like this. He still loves you and wants to draw you close to Him.And even though some christians "don't feel one bit sorry for you" He has compassion for you cuz He sees your heart
@zideffil 5) and therefore He knows where you came from and that you have your reasons to think like yoo do. Its not that you werent ready to believe in Him and receive Him if you at least got some answers.And even though God is not obligated to answer you and you should believe even if you dont understand everything, God knows you're just a human being and have your weaknesses and therefore are receptive for deception because of your longing to understand.God is like the God shepherd
@zideffil 6) He loves each single one of us so much that if one of us gets lost, he leaves the herd alone and seeks out for the lost sheep to get it back. Thats what Hes doing with you right now. Hes reaching out for you in many ways and He has not given up on you and when you come back to Him He'll rejoyce over you just like the Father in the story of the lost son. May God bless you and I pray that He might give you a revelation of His love for You!
Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. 13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. Suggestion: Deceivers are not dressed like demons, but are dressed up like Christians, and they speak great swelling words.... Deceiving, if it were possible; the very elect.
When our definition of truth depends upon our experience of the world, we are a very short way from becoming entirely relative in our thinking. Feelings are not bad, and sometimes they are aligned with scriptural truth but more often with our sin nature. The fickle nature of the heart makes it a very unreliable compass. "The heart is more deceitful than all else, and is desperately sick; who can understand it?" (Jer 17:9)
@TheK1N1 Nope. the closest thing I have seen to this 'Holy laughter' thing is in the bible. Nebachadnezzar believed he was a cow and he ate grass, for a while. I guess these gurus could be creative enough to inlcude that in their cirruculum.
@TheK1N1 The bible mentions one time Jesus crying. Does that mean He only cried once in His entire lifetime? I don't recall the bible ever mentioning that Jesus laughed at all. Does that mean He never laughed? Laughter is not a sin. Have you ever had an experience when you were really happy just hanging out with your friends and you laughed and laughed because something was so funny and you just couldn't stop laughing? I have. That does not mean that I was an out of control sinner!
@HisLily7 I laugh a lot. do it every day. I don't alugh much in a worship service though. Neither did Moses, Isaiah, John the Baptist, Stephen, Matthew.. PRAY FOR COMMON SENSE pleeeeze
@skaha77 How do you know when they laughed? Were you there? I go to a non denominational church 3 times a week and this doesn't typically happen to anybody. It happens sometimes though when I'm just by myself and I'm focusing on how good God is. Experiencing this kind of joy is not common but when it happens, it's wonderful & life changing:)
@AnusimCentral even if its just hypnosis-whats hypnosis doing in 'GODs house'? mind control has no connections with YHWH.(religion yes) GOD no-you either worship HIM because you want to/and love HIM or dont bother.....there is no mention in the bible of YEHOSHUA or the disciples rolling on the floor-acting like this! and brainwashing/domination/deception are the tools of lucifer....
...people believe what they want to believe...if the truth came straight up and introduced itself to them, there are those who would turn away because they love a lie...the truth isn't usually much fun, I guess...
**************URGENT WARNING TO CHRISTIANS******************
2 Thess. 2:11 = Most Christians today are deceived and believe a false gospel
2 Tim 3,4 = they act like Christians but deny God's power, always learning but never understanding, lovers of pleasure, led by entertainer pastors/musicians.
2 Cor 13:5 = are you holy? are you seperate? Is your faith real?
John 15:5 = Jesus is the vine, abide in Him continually, not just on Sunday, Jesus is LORD of all your life, every part!
How can God not be the author of confusion, if everything in the manifest Universe (including Satan) is of His design. If it exists, it is of God; otherwise it is apart from God and He didn't create it and therefore has no power over it.
@buzzbud52 You'll never get it unless you experience it;) You ever been really, really happy? Ever had those times when you're w/ a friend and you're just laughing & having a good time & you just can't stop laughing? That's what it's like. As a roller coaster junkie, I compare this to being on a fast, wild, fun roller coaster-you know how you laugh & scream cuz you're having so much fun? God is like that sometimes:)
@Britney24able Act 2:13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine. But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, & said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, & all [ye] that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, & hearken to my words: For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is [but] the third hour of the day. But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh
"And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you."
In Jesus' day this was known as demon possession.Only the devil wants to debase man to animals
"And one of the multitude answered and said, Master, I have brought unto thee my son, which hath a dumb spirit; And wheresoever he taketh him, he teareth him: and he foameth, and gnasheth with his teeth, and pineth away: and I spake to thy disciples that they should cast him out; and they could not." and onward Mark 9:18 -27
@TheK1N1 I have had many experiences like this. I did not gnash my teeth or foam at the mouth. I simply felt really, really happy and I laughed a lot (or sometimes I cried in repentance) Every time, I was totally sane & aware of my surroundings and afterwards I was different. I was set free from sins or demonic oppressions and I was much closer to my Lord & King afterward. God gets all the glory for the changes that occurred in me in His presence:)
@TheK1N1 Not true at all. I have had many experiences like this. I was not demon possessed-ever! I simply felt really, really happy and I laughed a lot (or sometimes I cried in repentance) Every time, I was totally sane & aware of my surroundings and afterward I was different. I was set free from sins or demonic oppressions and it would bring me closer to God. It's easy to mock what you don't understand.
@HisLily7 "It's easy to mock what you don't understand." Im not claiming to know or understand anything, of course I can err.But what makes you so sure that YOU understand and are not deceived? Your "experience" alone? Or also the scripture? Cuz I can't find any scripture who backs that up and I even googled a lot.Satan can act as an "angel of light".
If this kind of laughter really is the Holy Spirit, why does it also happen in NON-christian settings (like New Age,Hindu or Yoga practiques)?
@TheK1N1 I appreciate your perspective on this. Yes, I know that the Satan does come as an "angel of light", but I can assure you that Satan is not at work in my life. I've been walking strong with the Lord for 18 yrs. As far as this kind of thing happening in non christian settings, I think that's because the devil has a counterfeit for everything & uses it with others to discredit Christianity. Just like there are witches who heal people with the power of Satan.
@HisLily7 "As far as this kind of thing happening in non christian settings, I think that's because the devil has a counterfeit for everything & uses it with others to discredit Christianity. Just like there are witches who heal people with the power of Satan."
So if you say Satan IS ABLE to do the same as the Holy Spirit (like healing and causing good feelings of "joy" etc.) but in non-christian settings to discredit Christianity there are two possible conlusions:
And also if many " false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect“ (Matt. 24:23) then how can we exclude that they also are able to perform those „manifestations“ like healing and causing holy laughter?
@TheK1N1 Your are right God is not the author of confusion this is in line with the prophecy of Rev 16:14 out of the mouth come spirits to deceive from the false prophet.
I love this!!! I know some of you find this hard to believe that's it's a part of God. But I'll tell you from personal experience, God brings joy!!! It's a spiritual high that no drug could ever ever even compare to. They're drowning in the Holy Spirit right now. They've just let go, they don't care how silly it looks. I think this is awesome!!!
@Liz73851 So if I decide to quit church and go to a bar.. I can see the exact same thing right near closing time. THIS IS NOT WORSHIPPING GOD IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH. Laughter is good medicine, but this is hysteria. These folks are emotional wrecks
@Liz73851 Liz, the biggest joy I have is when God shows me a hungry lost person, and allows me to share Christ with theml; in the power of the indwelling presence of the Holy spirit. The real joy is when they 'come through the door' It is an honour to be used like that. Everything else is just frosting on the cake
@skaha77 Then we'll agree to disagree! Anyway, God bless u! I wish you grace and mercy and peace of salvation, and satisfaction in bringing God all the glory!
@dzpisx OK. sorry for the insult. The fruit of the spirit is love, joy peace... 5 more and also temperance. Temperance is self control. I do not see that here.
@skaha77 It's not hysteria. It's sheer, plain JOY:) I have had many experiences like this. I simply felt really, really happy and I laughed a lot (or sometimes I cried in repentance) Every time, I was totally sane & aware of my surroundings and afterwards I was different. I was set free from sins or demonic oppressions and I was much closer to my Lord & King afterward. God gets all the glory for the changes that occurred in me in His presence:)
@HisLily7 I think you were hoodwinked, by a deceiver. You are NOT set free from your sins by 'laughter' you ARE set free by the shed blood of the Lord Jesus Christ. I know the joy of the Lord, and it truly IS my source of strength. The Holy Spirit does not cause this kind of hysteria. People who have emotional disorders are taken in by this hype. Please, just read God's word, and ask him to speak to your heart. Suggest the KJV
@skaha77 You're right. Jesus set me free from my sins on October 15th, 1993. But there still are things continually in my life that He has to help me overcome. No one will ever be perfect before Heaven. I'm glad that you have the joy of the Lord. I don't have emotional disorders and I do read my bible regularly. He speaks to my heart all the time. I have a very good relationship with Him and I really enjoy times like this when I get an extra dose of His joy & presence:)
@skaha77 It's not a typical worship service. I go to church 3 times a week and this doesn't typically happen. But when it does, in the right setting, when everyone is seeking it, it's wonderful:)
This move is influenced by a spirit all right, but not the Holy Spirit. In Scripture only those under the negative judgement of God fall backwards. Those in his holy presence bow face down before him in compete fear and reverence. Lots of deception in the last days.
@thewordrules exactly!.. been doing come research and this is a demonic spirit called Kundalini. Looks real similiar to the real thing but its not! only ones in the bible who rolled on the ground, foamed at the mouth, made strange banshe noises were those who were demon possessed. After Jesus delivered them they were clothed in their right minds. No where in the bible did any baptized, holyspirit believers did any of this mess! so many are def being deceived my this false spirit!
It is obvious that many people, sometimes even great Saints, are never given notable consolations in their Faith, much less extraordinary manifestations of the Holy Ghost. To say that an unbaptized person who has experienced this "Baptism in the Holy Spirit" is somehow as close to God as (or even closer than) a pious, baptized Catholic who has never had such an experience is clearly absurd.
Elohim has a name and it is Yahuah and the messiahs name is Yahusha and not Jesus. Jesus means hay-Zeus in Hebrew means horse, Satan is behind all religion this is his world remember. And the first followers of Yahusha are called the Natsarim. everything in Christianity came from pagan Babylon, I came out of Christianity and came to the truth. Don’t call the mighty one Lord or God they are pagan terms from Babylon not names. this is all demonic and got nothing to do with the messiah at all.
@wsfog the truth is that Yahusha never came to abolish the Torah or the prophets he came to complete them. he completed the sacrificial of animals by dying for our sins on the stake. we still have to obey the Torah teachings instructions the feasts of Yahuah. and the circumcision is also completed by circumcision of the heart by Yahusha. you know what you don't even have to be a Jew to obey yahuahs Torah. Yahusha never created religion it was Satan to drive away the names and truth.
How do you know this is "holy?" And where do you see this "holy" reaction in the Bible? Watch Andrew Strom's "Kundalini Warning" on youtube for some insight on the topic
This is not of God and anyone who doesn't know God will think it's the manifestation of the Holy Spirit. This IS demonic, and God is not in this church. Why would God allow laughter when people need healing? When people are sick? When they're addicted to sin like fornication, alcohol, drugs and pornagraphy? When homes are broken and people have broken hearts? God will never laugh at any of you. This is not God!
@MrLaterian I don't really understand what your saying because your grammar is hard to figure out. I was replying to a previous comment. It was a joke but at the same time I really don't have a problem with those things.
Honestly, I'm not sure what to think, I've known persons who have supposedly gone through this. if this is real and of God, and it really heals the soul, I really need it at this point. :-(
harpstrings1060 2 weeks ago
The only time in scripture that God laughs is in derision against the raging heathen. The Holy Spirit convicts the lost of their sin, and brings joy (not laughter) to the saved.
This 'revival' is false and demonic.
RBNightlinger 2 weeks ago
This type group likes to pump your emotions, make you FEEL saved. Believe me it's not all emotions.
seekingtruth52 1 month ago
fake...
seekingtruth52 1 month ago
Ha ha ha, ho ho ho, and a couple of la-di-das,
That's how we laugh and play all day in the merry old land of Oz.
ferociousgumby 1 month ago
@aioee NO where in the BIBLe does it say..when the holyghost came over someone..they laughed..continuously..there has to be some kind of order..i know this mess would NOT fly in Church of God in Christ. Go study Pauls teachings to Corinth About the Holyghost.
atgreen1285 1 month ago
Someone call the mental institutions.
thecritiquevirtuoso 1 month ago
@thecritiquevirtuoso Funny you would say that! (pun intended) This actually prevents the mental institution because it breaks off the fear of man. How? All of us are full of the pain of rejection, abuse, trauma, shame... This pain distorts our identity, causes us to walk in pride, suspicion, unable to trust with walls up. It causes bondage, addictions, bad habits, & bad attitudes we get when struggle to please others, to be right, to deal with pain. Learn more on my profile.
HealedandOpenHearts 1 month ago
UMMMM LIKE ARE YOU SERIOUS? IS THIS REAL?
durrtyballa 1 month ago
@durrtyballa yes it is real & it is biblical on Pentecost the bystanders said the apostles were DRUNK & Peter said No this is what the prophet Joel prophesied - look it up in the book of Acts
jwsyt2 1 month ago
@durrtyballa Yes, I have experienced it. It is very real. Check out the many videos on this phenomenon called God's glory, such as the glory cloud (of gold dust) at Bethel, or the literal clouds of mist or rain falling inside of churches. Check out the videos of angels singing with Jason Upton or Elias or in Kansas City or Israel. God has always let us know he is there but few believe it unless they see it or feel it. Even then, as you can see here, there is great opposition.
HealedandOpenHearts 1 month ago
@HealedandOpenHearts By the way, I have a bunch of those videos on my profile. Message me and I can tell and show you oh so much more! It is very exciting!
HealedandOpenHearts 1 month ago
im 100% sure that people opposing this didn't experienced this :)
can man control himself if he IS filled with the Spirit??
makulitkaha 1 month ago
@makulitkaha
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law." (Galatians 5:22-23)
"A man without self-control is like a city broken into and left without walls." (Proverbs 25:28)
Keruaran 1 month ago
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@Keruaran START reading the Bible:Acts 2 ...they asked... “What does this mean?” Some, however, made fun of them &said, “They have had too much wine. Then Peter stood up with the Eleven and addressed the crowd: “Fellow Jews and all of you who live in Jerusalem, let me explain; listen carefully to what I say. These people ARE NOT DRUNK AS U SUPPOSE It’s only9 in the morning! No, this is what was prophet Joel said"In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
jwsyt2 1 month ago
@Keruaran This is not a loss of control. These people choose to submit to the Lord's free gift of grace. Religious pride and control are things God wants us to get set free from. Do we gotta look religious to be righteous? No! Think about it. That is self-righteousness, an idol before God, to make you righteous absent of His grace. Those fruits you talk about are rarely seen among the religious because they are so pent up with the fear of man that they always feel the need to be right.
HealedandOpenHearts 1 month ago
@HealedandOpenHearts
You have not supported a single statement you've made with scripture. Everything you've said is merely your opinion. And you have maligned the grace of God by associating His grace with people behaving like complete fools. And "those fruits" are what SCRIPTURE talks about. If you rarely see them, you're in the wrong Church.
Keruaran 1 month ago
I usually laugh when something is funny. Just a quirk of my personality. There people are emotiionally disturbed.. OR just confused and following the 'pied piper'
skaha77 1 month ago
Like I said, the only way we can judge a person is by the fruit on their tree. That's what the bible says. We'll never meet this woman so we'll never see hers. What happened here is between her & God anyway. I believe in it because I've experienced it many times & each time, I came out a better person, changed, better life, and closer to my Lord & Savior. His presence is real and good. Satan is not a part of my life in anyway whatsoever:) Goodnight...
HisLily7 1 month ago
@HisLily7 2) ..not also the one who causes it (Holy Laughter) in church? U cant exclude this possibility then.(Except u say it depends on the place where it happens.if it happens in church its the HS,if it happens at a guru-setting its Satan)
u: "I've never heard of Satan causing joy", "I believe joy only comes from God"
i: ok, then (again) why is Holy laughter and other strange church phenomena also happen in non-christian places like guru-sessions? It's GOD then instead of Satan?
TheK1N1 1 month ago
@TheK1N1 because the source is different so one is genuine, the other is a counterfeit- a good counterfeit looks very much like the original. Counterfeits r to deceive! Only God/Christ is the Creator. Other spiritual forces are counterfeits. they cannot create anything except falsehoods- counterfeits. As you learn the truth thru study of Bible thru the indwelling Holy Spirit you will see these matters come clearer & clearer. receive Christ as Lord & Savior to receive the Holy Spirit.
jwsyt2 1 month ago
@jwsyt2 @jwsyt2 You're using the same argument as HisLily
u:Yes it can be the Holy Spirit who causes that in church! And in non-christian settings it's Satan who causes that.
So here's my same argument to you
i: Ok,so u say Satan is able to do exactly the same that the Holy Spirit does in church. What then makes u sure that Satan is ..not also the one who causes it (Holy Laughter) in church? U cant exclude this possibility then.
TheK1N1 1 month ago
@TheK1N1 God NEVER gives his children anything negative or satanic: see Matthew 7:9 onwards and Luke 11:11 onwards God gives only good things to those who ask for the Holy Spirit.. hope this clarifies-
jwsyt2 1 month ago
@jwsyt2 2)
PS:You should repent from your judgemental spirit. You can't conclude that everyone who doesnt share the exactly same opinion like u didnt receive Christ or doesnt have the Holy Spirit.
"As you learn the truth thru study of Bible" It's very arrogant of u to think I didnt study the bible just because I didnt come to the same conclusions than u!I DID study the Bible and Not even ONCE! in the Bible "the joy of the Lord" is mentioned as expressing itself in uncontrollable laughter
TheK1N1 1 month ago
@TheK1N1 I regret offending you. A very good non-denominational Biblical explanation about this topic of can be found here: on youtube type in Derek Prince Receive the Holy Spirit. Parts 1 thru 6 give you the bilbical explanations as to receiving the Holy Spirit. a blessed Christmas to you
jwsyt2 1 month ago
The JOY OF THE LORD Is my strength! What a sweet Holy Spirit! ; )
Janon35 1 month ago
Holy laughter people often defend their practices as being of God, while these other practices are counterfeits. But holy laughter as we know it today came lately. All attempts to link it to Scripture or early revival history are without merit. Its real precedent is coincidental to New Age philosophy. Does God mimic something Satan originates? Or is He taken off guard by Satan? Then He would be guilty of causing confusion among His people. And God is not the author of confusion. (1 Cor. 14:33)
TheK1N1 1 month ago
@TheK1N1 Amen! God is not the author of confusion and I am not confused:) I do believe that He is the author of joy. We can ONLY judge a person by the fruit on the tree:)
HisLily7 1 month ago
Jude 19-20 "These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit. But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost."
James 3:15 "This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish."
Sensual experiences and ecstatic experientials highs are a poor substitute for the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit in a Christian's life.
TheK1N1 1 month ago
@TheK1N1 God bless you, and keep you.
skaha77 1 month ago
@skaha77 What I obviously can't get through your mind is that, YES I WAS born again and, YES I did have Jesus in my body and whole life and for a long, long time - try 50 years, BUT, little by little I saw the flaws with the whole yarn and little by little started seeing that it is just the very same as all the other saviours who lived before J.C. came along and all of his 'miracles' are copied, almost word for word from earlier times. I've seen through it and can never go back now.
zideffil 1 month ago
@zideffil u say u were born again but evidently u never were.Were u baptized in water thru immersion? above all were u baptized in the Holy Spirit? did u move in the gifts of the Holy Spirit such as tongues, healing, prophecy, etc? Did you minister healing to others? Did you WITNESS MIRACLES in your walk with Jesus? Was the supernatural a vital part of your walk with Christ? Evidently not. Yet all these things r the sign of a CHRISTian according to...CHRIST Himself see Mark16:17 & 18
jwsyt2 1 month ago
@jwsyt2
Mark 16: 18 "they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all" Did you do this?
TheK1N1 1 month ago
@TheK1N1 )As you personally, I & every other follower of Christ are COMMANDED BY JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF we are ALL to move in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. So please do NOT DISOBEY Jesus. Pls get baptized in the Holy Spirit TODAY then begin moving in the gifts of mark 16 :17 -19. Did Jesus perform these things because He was God? No! He did them as a Man THRU THE POWER OF THE HS. That is why WE ALL can do them . As every follower of Christ I have indeed moved in all these things see 2).
jwsyt2 1 month ago
@TheK1N1 2) We do not tempt God, Satan told Jesus to fall from the Temple top...so i have not gulped poison intentionally, Nor have i been bitten by a serpent. The verse does not instruct us to drink poison or to pick up snakes.Rather obviously It says that we are protected from the toxicity of these things by God. As I give thanks & BLESS my food I know that God is making it good- removing those things that can be harmful. Hope this clarifies
jwsyt2 1 month ago
@skaha77 Thank you for your kind wishes.I wish that God blesses and keeps you too and makes us strong and gives us the power to show people His love trough us.
TheK1N1 1 month ago
@TheK1N1 Being filled with joy is not a substitute of the Holy Spirit, it's a bonus;)
HisLily7 1 month ago
@HisLily7 is there any verse in the bible where "being filled with joy" (not with the holy spirit but with joy!) is mentioned? And what about my arguments that I adressed directly at you? Do you agree with me on that?
TheK1N1 1 month ago
@TheK1N1 I've never heard of Satan causing joy but I have heard of witches who get power from Satan to heal people. I'm not sure what you mean by discerning the spirits by the setting. I don't think setting has anything to do with it. It has to do with what is going on in the person's heart, their hunger for more of God & we can only judge them by the "fruit on the tree". There are tons of scriptures about joy. I believe joy only comes from God. We could argue scripture all day long...
HisLily7 1 month ago
@HisLily7 The bible is not going to describe every emotional experience of people, whether they laughed or cried. I honestly have to get to bed so I don't have time for debate. I can only testify that I have experienced this kind of joy many times & each time, my life was changed for the better, I was set free from junk in my life & went deeper in my relationship with Jesus. You can believe it or not, His presence is real:)
HisLily7 1 month ago
@HisLily7 SUMMARIZATION ;-)
i: Holy laughter and other strange church phenomena also happen in non-christian places like guru-sessions.Therefore this cant be the Holy sprit who causes that,cuz why would He cause that in non-christian settings?
u:Yes it can be the Holy Spirit who causes that in church! And in non-christian settings it's Satan who causes that.
i: Ok,so u say Satan is able to do exactly the same that the Holy Spirit does in church. What then makes u sure that Satan is
TheK1N1 1 month ago
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because the source is different so one is genuine, the other is a counterfeit- a good counterfeit looks very much like the original. Counterfeits r to deceive! Only God/Christ is the Creator. Other spiritual forces are counterfeits. they cannot create anything except falsehoods- counterfeits. As you learn the truth thru study of Bible thru the indwelling Holy Spirit you will see these matters come clearer & clearer. receive Christ as Lord & Savior to receive the Holy Spirit.
jwsyt2 1 month ago
@TheK1N1 satan can create nothing because God is Creative. Satan can ONLY make COUNTERFEITS of God's works. Remember in the Bible how the false prophets and magicians imitated the miracles of Moses & Elijah but were defeated? So today: satan can produce apparent "healing" thru healers, people can make predictions thru the satanic power of divination rather than God's gift of prophecy of His Holy Spirit etc.Simply put:: God's genuine gifts of his Holy Spirit & satan's counterfeits
jwsyt2 1 month ago
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TheK1N1 1 month ago
@HisLily7 with "discerning the spirits by the setting" I meant, that if Satan is able to create the exactly same phenomenons and feelings than the Holy Spirit in church, than the only way to discern the spirits is by the place.Like for instance
"I get healed in a new age setting/place and fall back to the ground, well this must be Satan" vs.
"I get healed and fall back to the ground.Hmm, where am I now? In church? Oh than now this must be the Holy Spirit"
TheK1N1 1 month ago
@TheK1N1 1Corinthains12:10 the gift of the Holy Spirit of DISCERNMENT allows you 2 discern the source of phenomena eg divination rather than prophecy. Pls watch Derek Prince seriesReceive the Holy Spirit on youtube pray & receive baptism in the Holy Spirit. Jesus does not suggest but COMMANDS it. No Christian is to be without active use of the gifts of the Holy Spirit.that would be like a soldier without weapons or a worker without tools!pls let me know if you got baptized inHolySpirit
jwsyt2 1 month ago
@TheK1N1 of course it is NOT setting or place but the SOURCE Go's genuine gift or satan's very similar counterfeit
jwsyt2 1 month ago
@TheK1N1 No... you gotta have the baptism of the Holy Spirit to be able to discern many times. Look at the fruit of the lives of those participating & the vessels doing the ministry. You might point to Todd Bentley. Like all of us he was not perfect (also young) & God used him to challenge us. The overall fruit was there. Like reading the Bible & seeing the whole picture versus only one section. Some judge God to be vengeful this way when He is not. Check my blog for more, see profile.
HealedandOpenHearts 1 month ago
@TheK1N1 there are two separate receptions of the Holy Spirit: one at salvation the other thru baptism in the Holy Spirit. to save me time & typing , please See" Derek Prince receive the Holy Spirit" on Youtube- follow thru 1 -6 then please let me know if you were baptized in the Holy Spirit and if you received the gift of tongues. blessings
jwsyt2 1 month ago
Lol.................this is contagious
TheFawkman 1 month ago
laughter is contagious...and ignorance is bliss
Holidayprince 1 month ago
NOT IN 1st CORINTHIANS 14!
kenstasia 2 months ago
@kenstasia That is an incorrect usage of that chapter. If you were referring to being orderly, that was referring to taking turns because the Holy Spirit can be so energizing (Hebrew term naba) that the excitement can cause people not to hear important words from the Lord due to not taking turns. The entirety of Scripture speaks of shedding our pride, depending on God, not turning to idols like masks of pious religion for our self-righteousness. Check out my blog, see profile 4 more.
HealedandOpenHearts 1 month ago
@kenstasia (continued...) Nothing sheds pride and sets our uptight, wounded hearts free from man-pleasing fear like laughter, rolling on the floor, shaking, wobbling, & the tangible Presence of God's awesome Love. I pointed you to my blog to help you understand this movement better. Healing wounded hearts can bring unity back to the Church, whereas the spirit of strife is based upon stinky pride. Pride comes from fears, suspicions, shame, & walls to protect our wounded hearts.
HealedandOpenHearts 1 month ago
I experienced this in the mid-90s. Absolutely God-inspired. What's really neat is that laughter--be it genuine or fake--releases feel-good hormones. Many people who have experienced this laughter have also been healed of depression. Recent science of neuroplasticity has shown that positive emotion can actually heal trauma. I wouldn't be surprised if God was using laughter to heal. Anyway, laughing is fun, people are too serious man.
theoriginalskinsey 2 months ago 2
@theoriginalskinsey AMEN!! I have experienced this joy many times in my 18 yr walk with the Lord and each time, I was set free from stuff, came out a better person (with more fruit on my tree) and felt closer to God. Not a thing wrong with that! We can ONLY judge a person by the fruit on the tree!
HisLily7 1 month ago
Acts 2 ...they asked one another, “What does this mean?” Some, however, made fun of them and said, “They have had too much wine. Then Peter stood up with the Eleven and addressed the crowd: “Fellow Jews and all of you who live in Jerusalem, let me explain this to you; listen carefully to what I say. These people are not drunk, as you suppose. It’s only nine in the morning! No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel. In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people."
tscottmorton 2 months ago 2
I love how God does amazing things (:
daddyslilgal28 2 months ago 2
This isn't in the bible, but it is a quote by P.T. Barnham: 'There's a sucker born every minute" In Canada, people are spending over 12 billion dollars a year on lottery tickets, which pay back about 1.2 cents on the dollar. Then there's the laughing ministries.
skaha77 2 months ago
@skaha77 I couldn't agree more. It is astounding how many completely STUPID people there are everywhere. If only they could realise the simple truth that gods were invented by men and every god is only an extension of each man's heart. That is the reason why 'god' is so very different from place to plce. There's actually nothing to argue over nor to fight wars over at all except for greed.
zideffil 1 month ago
@zideffil Well there's one thing I think we are divided on: GOD is real, he is Holy, and we can know him personally, through his SON, the Lord Jesus Christ. who was delivered for OUR offences, and raised again (from the dead) for our justification. Much fighting isn't over greed as much as lust for power, and only by pride comes contention. You can have a realtionship with almighty God and he can be your real heavenly father. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and U will be saved, and know it
skaha77 1 month ago 2
@skaha77 Well, I hope that you are young and still have lots of time in which to evolve. I too was a Christian for most of my life and I can remember praying when I was all of 5 years old. I felt Jesus in me, and outside me, helping me and I loved him and all that. The Presbyterian church where I went for years though, sees a LOT of the Bible stories just as pleasant stories for the children - alegories, and nothing more but, the Baptists see it differently, Methodists again cont'd...
zideffil 1 month ago
@zideffil You don't 'feel' Jesus. You either belong to him, or you don't. You were never saved. You never knew him and he never knew you. It's not too late, though.Whosoever shall call apon the name of the lord SHALL BE SAVED.
skaha77 1 month ago
@skaha77 If you 're going to use semantics to make your point, well,...I realise that I have been conversing with a complete brainwashed dummy. You 'know' so very much about me and about my relationship with Jesus, yet you have never met me. That says it all regarding what you're about. Nothing that would interest me in the least. Just keep deluding yourself, I guess, is my only suggestion.
zideffil 1 month ago
@skaha77 Yes you can feel God's presence. Even on this earth you can if you seek it with all your heart. It's wonderful and life changing:)
HisLily7 1 month ago
@skaha77 cont'd...differently and on and on. I got so tired of asking questions about this and that and NEVER getting an intelligent answer to any of them, so I started checking up on ancient history and was astounded at what I found. I found TONS of info that totally blew the Bible myths out of the water. Try some Barbara Walker, Christopher Hitchens, and Richard Dawkins. Oh,...DO read books by D.M. Murdock. You will be astounded by the sheer amount of solid info all around us.
zideffil 1 month ago
@zideffil Hitchens and Dawkins = LOSERS. Why would I wastem my time reading what the devil's children are saying? The bible is the word of God. That said, you have heard the gospel and chosen to reject the Lord Jesus Christ and his offer of everlasting life, and total forgiveness for all of your sin. I don't feel one bit sorry for you, but on judgment day you will be cast into the Lake of Fire that burns forever. U won't see any of your friends there b/c that would bring relief
skaha77 1 month ago
@zideffil 1) "I got so tired of asking questions about this and that and NEVER getting an intelligent answer to any of them" I really feel sorry for you that people in your church never answered you but I think you shouldnt fall for the first who answers you. So if you're listening to the arguments of atheists and new agers you should at least listen to the counterarguments of the christian side as well before you give into it.Did you ever listen what christian Apologetics had to say?
TheK1N1 1 month ago
@TheK1N1 Christian apologetics have nothing of intelligene to say at all. They just repeat endlessly the same age-old myths on and on and on... Poor, poor lost sheep.
zideffil 1 month ago
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@zideffil "Christian apologetics have nothing of intelligene to say at all"
Can you tell me which apologetics did you listen to?
TheK1N1 1 month ago
@zideffil 2) They are there to prevent an intelligent answer cuz Christian apologetics (from Greek ἀπολογία, "speaking in defense") is a field of Christian theology that aims to present a rational basis for the Christian faith, defend the faith against objections, and expose the perceived flaws of other world views. Apologists have based their defense of Christianity on historical evidence, philosophical arguments, scientific investigation, and arguments from other disciplines.
TheK1N1 1 month ago
@zideffil 3) Therefore they have as well "TONS of solid info". Ravi Zacharias is an excellent apologetic and he has lots of logical arguments for why he is not an atheist, and he also adresses bible myths and shows the logical flaws in doctrines like the new age one.
You can listen to his arguments here on youtube ("Ravi Zacharias at his best") and see if it does make sense to you. Cuz how can you be sure you're right if you dont know the christian counterarguments are wrong? Right?;-)
TheK1N1 1 month ago
@zideffil 4) God said "If you seek me with all your heart I will be found by you" I hope you you dont give up too soon in your search but also seek Him in the apologetic area.
And please dont get turned off by other "christians" wrong behavior.Just because they act in a certain manner doesnt mean that God is like this. He still loves you and wants to draw you close to Him.And even though some christians "don't feel one bit sorry for you" He has compassion for you cuz He sees your heart
TheK1N1 1 month ago
@zideffil 5) and therefore He knows where you came from and that you have your reasons to think like yoo do. Its not that you werent ready to believe in Him and receive Him if you at least got some answers.And even though God is not obligated to answer you and you should believe even if you dont understand everything, God knows you're just a human being and have your weaknesses and therefore are receptive for deception because of your longing to understand.God is like the God shepherd
TheK1N1 1 month ago
@zideffil 6) He loves each single one of us so much that if one of us gets lost, he leaves the herd alone and seeks out for the lost sheep to get it back. Thats what Hes doing with you right now. Hes reaching out for you in many ways and He has not given up on you and when you come back to Him He'll rejoyce over you just like the Father in the story of the lost son. May God bless you and I pray that He might give you a revelation of His love for You!
TheK1N1 1 month ago
@skaha77 Experiencing the joy of the Lord won't cost you a dime but it'll change your life for the better;)
HisLily7 1 month ago
Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. 13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. Suggestion: Deceivers are not dressed like demons, but are dressed up like Christians, and they speak great swelling words.... Deceiving, if it were possible; the very elect.
skaha77 2 months ago
When our definition of truth depends upon our experience of the world, we are a very short way from becoming entirely relative in our thinking. Feelings are not bad, and sometimes they are aligned with scriptural truth but more often with our sin nature. The fickle nature of the heart makes it a very unreliable compass. "The heart is more deceitful than all else, and is desperately sick; who can understand it?" (Jer 17:9)
TheK1N1 2 months ago
If self-control is a fruit of the Spirit of God, how can uncontrollable laughter also be a fruit of His Spirit?
No one in the Bible was more filled with the Holy Spirit than Jesus, and not once does the Bible ever record Him laughing uncontrollably.
TheK1N1 2 months ago 2
@TheK1N1 Nope. the closest thing I have seen to this 'Holy laughter' thing is in the bible. Nebachadnezzar believed he was a cow and he ate grass, for a while. I guess these gurus could be creative enough to inlcude that in their cirruculum.
skaha77 2 months ago
@TheK1N1 The bible mentions one time Jesus crying. Does that mean He only cried once in His entire lifetime? I don't recall the bible ever mentioning that Jesus laughed at all. Does that mean He never laughed? Laughter is not a sin. Have you ever had an experience when you were really happy just hanging out with your friends and you laughed and laughed because something was so funny and you just couldn't stop laughing? I have. That does not mean that I was an out of control sinner!
HisLily7 2 months ago
@HisLily7 I laugh a lot. do it every day. I don't alugh much in a worship service though. Neither did Moses, Isaiah, John the Baptist, Stephen, Matthew.. PRAY FOR COMMON SENSE pleeeeze
skaha77 1 month ago
@skaha77 How do you know when they laughed? Were you there? I go to a non denominational church 3 times a week and this doesn't typically happen to anybody. It happens sometimes though when I'm just by myself and I'm focusing on how good God is. Experiencing this kind of joy is not common but when it happens, it's wonderful & life changing:)
HisLily7 1 month ago
holy planking?
iwaslikepfffft 2 months ago
I just waste 4 min 47 of my life
jojuma91 2 months ago
@jojuma91 If you ever get touched by the joyful presence of God like this, you'll want it to last way longer;)
HisLily7 2 months ago
@AnusimCentral even if its just hypnosis-whats hypnosis doing in 'GODs house'? mind control has no connections with YHWH.(religion yes) GOD no-you either worship HIM because you want to/and love HIM or dont bother.....there is no mention in the bible of YEHOSHUA or the disciples rolling on the floor-acting like this! and brainwashing/domination/deception are the tools of lucifer....
VUPdingCLICK 2 months ago
@VUPdingCLICK It's not hypnosis. It's called JOY:)
HisLily7 2 months ago
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VUPdingCLICK 2 months ago
This looks fun. Leroy
leroybumssluts 2 months ago
@leroybumssluts It is:)
HisLily7 2 months ago
looks more like kunulini to me
MultiDenise36 2 months ago
@MultiDenise36 Satan has a counterfeit for everything. God Himself came up with this first. It's nothing less than sheer joy:)
HisLily7 2 months ago
...people believe what they want to believe...if the truth came straight up and introduced itself to them, there are those who would turn away because they love a lie...the truth isn't usually much fun, I guess...
kathberry8 2 months ago
@kathberry8 And who has the balls to claim that he knows the truth ?
Jimlead 2 months ago
@Jimlead ...offhand, (altho I won't use your terminology) I personally think Jesus Christ knows the truth, ...
kathberry8 2 months ago
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@kathberry8 Jesus Christ is the truth.
Jimlead 2 months ago
@strandwolf
Indeed, that is the question. So too could the question of "Where did the innate existence of the properties for the Universe arise?" be made.
Life truly is mysterious.
HylianSpirit 2 months ago
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**************URGENT WARNING TO CHRISTIANS******************
2 Thess. 2:11 = Most Christians today are deceived and believe a false gospel
2 Tim 3,4 = they act like Christians but deny God's power, always learning but never understanding, lovers of pleasure, led by entertainer pastors/musicians.
2 Cor 13:5 = are you holy? are you seperate? Is your faith real?
John 15:5 = Jesus is the vine, abide in Him continually, not just on Sunday, Jesus is LORD of all your life, every part!
servant714 2 months ago
bull shit
cj4161 2 months ago
@cj4161 What's wrong with being really happy and laughing??
HisLily7 2 months ago
@VvCHRISTINAvV
How can God not be the author of confusion, if everything in the manifest Universe (including Satan) is of His design. If it exists, it is of God; otherwise it is apart from God and He didn't create it and therefore has no power over it.
HylianSpirit 2 months ago
@HylianSpirit i don't see the confusion.
koenvdkerkhof 2 months ago
@HylianSpirit How did God Himself come to be, I wonder...
strandwolf 2 months ago
oh my god... it's retardation.... i've seen this once before, as a rookie... keep distance...
pussteh 2 months ago
@pussteh no its not it is possible to laugh in the Spirit, when the holy spirit comes not only does he bring power but he brings joy
Charles21670 2 months ago
@Charles21670 Life changing joy:)
HisLily7 2 months ago
WTF
gobprnosirve 2 months ago
i dont get it
buzzbud52 2 months ago
@buzzbud52 You'll never get it unless you experience it;) You ever been really, really happy? Ever had those times when you're w/ a friend and you're just laughing & having a good time & you just can't stop laughing? That's what it's like. As a roller coaster junkie, I compare this to being on a fast, wild, fun roller coaster-you know how you laugh & scream cuz you're having so much fun? God is like that sometimes:)
HisLily7 2 months ago
Uuuuum oooook, some 1 show me scripture for this!
Britney24able 2 months ago
@Britney24able Act 2:13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine. But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, & said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, & all [ye] that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, & hearken to my words: For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is [but] the third hour of the day. But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh
HisLily7 2 months ago
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"And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you."
In Jesus' day this was known as demon possession.Only the devil wants to debase man to animals
"And one of the multitude answered and said, Master, I have brought unto thee my son, which hath a dumb spirit; And wheresoever he taketh him, he teareth him: and he foameth, and gnasheth with his teeth, and pineth away: and I spake to thy disciples that they should cast him out; and they could not." and onward Mark 9:18 -27
TheK1N1 2 months ago
@TheK1N1 I have had many experiences like this. I did not gnash my teeth or foam at the mouth. I simply felt really, really happy and I laughed a lot (or sometimes I cried in repentance) Every time, I was totally sane & aware of my surroundings and afterwards I was different. I was set free from sins or demonic oppressions and I was much closer to my Lord & King afterward. God gets all the glory for the changes that occurred in me in His presence:)
HisLily7 2 months ago
This is not from God.These are demonic forces who cause that. And it freaks me out
TheK1N1 2 months ago 14
@TheK1N1 I absolutely agree with you! This is confusion and God is not the author of confusion! How on earth does one bring glory to God like this?
VvCHRISTINAvV 2 months ago 8
@TheK1N1 Not true at all. I have had many experiences like this. I was not demon possessed-ever! I simply felt really, really happy and I laughed a lot (or sometimes I cried in repentance) Every time, I was totally sane & aware of my surroundings and afterward I was different. I was set free from sins or demonic oppressions and it would bring me closer to God. It's easy to mock what you don't understand.
HisLily7 2 months ago
@HisLily7 "It's easy to mock what you don't understand." Im not claiming to know or understand anything, of course I can err.But what makes you so sure that YOU understand and are not deceived? Your "experience" alone? Or also the scripture? Cuz I can't find any scripture who backs that up and I even googled a lot.Satan can act as an "angel of light".
If this kind of laughter really is the Holy Spirit, why does it also happen in NON-christian settings (like New Age,Hindu or Yoga practiques)?
TheK1N1 2 months ago
@TheK1N1 I appreciate your perspective on this. Yes, I know that the Satan does come as an "angel of light", but I can assure you that Satan is not at work in my life. I've been walking strong with the Lord for 18 yrs. As far as this kind of thing happening in non christian settings, I think that's because the devil has a counterfeit for everything & uses it with others to discredit Christianity. Just like there are witches who heal people with the power of Satan.
HisLily7 2 months ago
@HisLily7 "As far as this kind of thing happening in non christian settings, I think that's because the devil has a counterfeit for everything & uses it with others to discredit Christianity. Just like there are witches who heal people with the power of Satan."
So if you say Satan IS ABLE to do the same as the Holy Spirit (like healing and causing good feelings of "joy" etc.) but in non-christian settings to discredit Christianity there are two possible conlusions:
TheK1N1 1 month ago
@HisLily7 ..continued...
1.The only possible way to discern the Spirits (Holy or Evil) is by the setting OR
2. Satan is working in both settings, and the people in the christian settings are being deceived.
At least you cannot exclude the last one cuz you admitted that Satan IS able to cause healing and all the good feelings.
TheK1N1 1 month ago
@HisLily7 ...continued..
And also if many " false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect“ (Matt. 24:23) then how can we exclude that they also are able to perform those „manifestations“ like healing and causing holy laughter?
TheK1N1 1 month ago
@TheK1N1 Your are right God is not the author of confusion this is in line with the prophecy of Rev 16:14 out of the mouth come spirits to deceive from the false prophet.
1struthalways 1 month ago in playlist (*_*)WILL THE REAL HOLY SPIRIT PLEASE STAND UP!!!?
Umm okay?
Jen9109 3 months ago
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People, drunk in the spirit is fake, holy laughter is fake, slain in the spirit is not real. Read the word! Eat the bread of life!
coolboysoldier1 3 months ago
what would happen i wonder if that happened to nelson from simpsons.......
jamesgates12 3 months ago
I love this!!! I know some of you find this hard to believe that's it's a part of God. But I'll tell you from personal experience, God brings joy!!! It's a spiritual high that no drug could ever ever even compare to. They're drowning in the Holy Spirit right now. They've just let go, they don't care how silly it looks. I think this is awesome!!!
Liz73851 3 months ago
@Liz73851 So if I decide to quit church and go to a bar.. I can see the exact same thing right near closing time. THIS IS NOT WORSHIPPING GOD IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH. Laughter is good medicine, but this is hysteria. These folks are emotional wrecks
skaha77 3 months ago
@Liz73851 Liz, the biggest joy I have is when God shows me a hungry lost person, and allows me to share Christ with theml; in the power of the indwelling presence of the Holy spirit. The real joy is when they 'come through the door' It is an honour to be used like that. Everything else is just frosting on the cake
skaha77 3 months ago
Oh boy, humanity is fucked.
CommanderRoth 3 months ago
they're all laughing because they just finished tea bagging that guy on the floor in the name of jesus.
danielvittet 3 months ago
Ooooh you all are wrong for that...LOL
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urbannewsnow 3 months ago
This makes God want to vomit, and the Holy spirit is NOT THERE
skaha77 3 months ago
@skaha77 I agree!!!
trudiamond30 3 months ago
@skaha77 right, cuz "In the presence of God is the fullness of sorrow."
dzpisx 3 months ago
@dzpisx HUH?? If you think this is of the Lord, you are just plain STUPID. No way I can even have a meaningful discussion on this. Have a nice day
skaha77 3 months ago
@skaha77 Then we'll agree to disagree! Anyway, God bless u! I wish you grace and mercy and peace of salvation, and satisfaction in bringing God all the glory!
dzpisx 3 months ago
@dzpisx OK. sorry for the insult. The fruit of the spirit is love, joy peace... 5 more and also temperance. Temperance is self control. I do not see that here.
skaha77 3 months ago
@skaha77 I'm going to send you a Personal Message, and in it will be my answer to your reply, and my defense of this believe it or not movement. :)
dzpisx 3 months ago
@dzpisx OK. I just don't see how this hysteria glorifies the Lord
skaha77 3 months ago
@skaha77 I sent the message, did you get it?
dzpisx 3 months ago
@dzpisx I didn't get it. I added you as friend. Try again.
skaha77 3 months ago
@skaha77 It's not hysteria. It's sheer, plain JOY:) I have had many experiences like this. I simply felt really, really happy and I laughed a lot (or sometimes I cried in repentance) Every time, I was totally sane & aware of my surroundings and afterwards I was different. I was set free from sins or demonic oppressions and I was much closer to my Lord & King afterward. God gets all the glory for the changes that occurred in me in His presence:)
HisLily7 2 months ago
@HisLily7 I think you were hoodwinked, by a deceiver. You are NOT set free from your sins by 'laughter' you ARE set free by the shed blood of the Lord Jesus Christ. I know the joy of the Lord, and it truly IS my source of strength. The Holy Spirit does not cause this kind of hysteria. People who have emotional disorders are taken in by this hype. Please, just read God's word, and ask him to speak to your heart. Suggest the KJV
skaha77 2 months ago
@skaha77 You're right. Jesus set me free from my sins on October 15th, 1993. But there still are things continually in my life that He has to help me overcome. No one will ever be perfect before Heaven. I'm glad that you have the joy of the Lord. I don't have emotional disorders and I do read my bible regularly. He speaks to my heart all the time. I have a very good relationship with Him and I really enjoy times like this when I get an extra dose of His joy & presence:)
HisLily7 2 months ago
@HisLily7 God has me laughing too. often at myself .. but never when in worship.. Maybe that isn;'t a worship service though. Could be a LAUGH IN
skaha77 1 month ago
@skaha77 It's not a typical worship service. I go to church 3 times a week and this doesn't typically happen. But when it does, in the right setting, when everyone is seeking it, it's wonderful:)
HisLily7 1 month ago
drunk as !@@!$@#!#@!#
123belljr 3 months ago
yea, religion is funny.
genext7 3 months ago
This move is influenced by a spirit all right, but not the Holy Spirit. In Scripture only those under the negative judgement of God fall backwards. Those in his holy presence bow face down before him in compete fear and reverence. Lots of deception in the last days.
thewordrules 3 months ago
@thewordrules exactly!.. been doing come research and this is a demonic spirit called Kundalini. Looks real similiar to the real thing but its not! only ones in the bible who rolled on the ground, foamed at the mouth, made strange banshe noises were those who were demon possessed. After Jesus delivered them they were clothed in their right minds. No where in the bible did any baptized, holyspirit believers did any of this mess! so many are def being deceived my this false spirit!
rachelmm05 3 months ago
Being hyponotized and being in the Spirit is TWO DIFFERENT THINGS!
TerryTheTiger8000 3 months ago
OH MY GOSH!!! This happend to me just a few years ago!!!! Oh wow!!!!! Oh I hope it happens again!! WOW!!!
Tarafriend33 3 months ago
It is obvious that many people, sometimes even great Saints, are never given notable consolations in their Faith, much less extraordinary manifestations of the Holy Ghost. To say that an unbaptized person who has experienced this "Baptism in the Holy Spirit" is somehow as close to God as (or even closer than) a pious, baptized Catholic who has never had such an experience is clearly absurd.
WeepingStellaMaris 3 months ago
woooo love this
TheDebbiedoodles 4 months ago
Elohim has a name and it is Yahuah and the messiahs name is Yahusha and not Jesus. Jesus means hay-Zeus in Hebrew means horse, Satan is behind all religion this is his world remember. And the first followers of Yahusha are called the Natsarim. everything in Christianity came from pagan Babylon, I came out of Christianity and came to the truth. Don’t call the mighty one Lord or God they are pagan terms from Babylon not names. this is all demonic and got nothing to do with the messiah at all.
gatekeeperoflight 4 months ago
@gatekeeperoflight if you came out of Christianity, what Truth do you follow? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm just asking an honest question.
wsfog 3 months ago
@wsfog the truth is that Yahusha never came to abolish the Torah or the prophets he came to complete them. he completed the sacrificial of animals by dying for our sins on the stake. we still have to obey the Torah teachings instructions the feasts of Yahuah. and the circumcision is also completed by circumcision of the heart by Yahusha. you know what you don't even have to be a Jew to obey yahuahs Torah. Yahusha never created religion it was Satan to drive away the names and truth.
gatekeeperoflight 3 months ago
so dumb!!!!!!!!!!!!
butterskullz 4 months ago
I sneaked some ganja in the holy water that day..
fimbles101 4 months ago
suddenly a wild laughter appears?
TylerTR4G3DY 4 months ago 2
THIS IS NOT THE HOLY GHOST!!!! THESE ARE THE FALSE SPIRITS THAT PAUL PROPHESIED ABOUT INVADING THE CHURCH IN THE LAST DAYS. BE NOT DECEIVED.
h t t p : / / w w w . y o u t u b e . c o m / w a t c h ? v = e B p w 2 o Q r v M M
1 John 4:1
1 Timothy 4:1
avissony 4 months ago
What did they put in the Holy Water? A few hundred tabs of blotter acid or something?
Mineav 4 months ago
they act like they are on acid
Tilleyass 4 months ago
How do you know this is "holy?" And where do you see this "holy" reaction in the Bible? Watch Andrew Strom's "Kundalini Warning" on youtube for some insight on the topic
Americanlynn1 4 months ago
This is not of God and anyone who doesn't know God will think it's the manifestation of the Holy Spirit. This IS demonic, and God is not in this church. Why would God allow laughter when people need healing? When people are sick? When they're addicted to sin like fornication, alcohol, drugs and pornagraphy? When homes are broken and people have broken hearts? God will never laugh at any of you. This is not God!
JosephChaparroNY 4 months ago 2
@JosephChaparroNY sounds like you've got your work cut out for you now.
OrangeLight08 4 months ago
@JosephChaparroNY I fucking love fornication, alcohol, drugs, and porn. Thank the lord for demons.
jscott181 4 months ago
@jscott181 whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat! i hope you was saying it seems like what their laughing for........
MrLaterian 4 months ago
@MrLaterian I don't really understand what your saying because your grammar is hard to figure out. I was replying to a previous comment. It was a joke but at the same time I really don't have a problem with those things.
jscott181 4 months ago