The Patriot Game (part 2)

[LibertyorDeath777]

Please forgive my ignorance on the matter, obviously there are other things involved but all i know is the British wanted control over Ireland/N.Ireland. So how is it wrong that the i.r.a. were wrong in wanting to kick the fuckers out? Anybody would do the same thing! I'm not on one side or the other. its very sad so many people died. Help me understand.

[Bushido91328]

lmfao. "2 and a half thousand people out of work?" Cry me a river.

[harpicecold1916]

@Bushido91328 Let me guess, without having to check your profile, do you come from the US? if so then that says it all. If you listened to what she was saying you would had heard "in Nerwy two in a half thousand people" not in the country, Newry today has a population of around 27,000 people today so think about what the population was back then, A LOT LESS. Dumb twat get an education.

[harpicecold1916]

@harpicecold1916 Newry*

[oldfaithful07]

Poor Satan having to deal with Paisley when he pops it!

[PaytonWestlake]

There is a lot of hate here on these pages. Hate is nothing more than a very long wait. We are still waiting for a free and united Ireland. Hate will only extend that wait. The end move in politics is to pick up a gun. We were forced to that end many decades ago and picked up the gun, and the gun gave us a new beginning of politics. Our day will come but by ballot not by gun. Forgive but never forget.

[SANDSER]

I HATE orange scum!!

[sjhannigan1]

To bad Ian Paisly was not targeted.He was a piece a shit,and would been a deserved target.

[northernsoul44]

@sjhannigan1 They were to wise to go after him. He did more harm alive. They learned from Britains mistakes.

[oreilg1]

paisley wanted for war crimes!!

[boattrainpaddy]

Ian Paisley is indeed a cocksucker... But it is easy to say 'Paisley's rhetoric made it impossible for the Brit Gov't to offer any concessions to the Republicans'. In fact, the Brit Gov't waited far to long... they should have been 'offering concessions' in 1920, not waiting until '69 and '70. They waited until the powder keg blew, and then stood back and baited both sides and blamed both sides. They are practiced in this type of behaviour.

[mellielli]

I don't understand how the Britons thought that executing the leaders of the 1916 rebellion could help? They should have pretended to be going to execute them and then shown what good people they are by going "All right, well let you go because we are bigger than this." Just a thought;) Anyway, people have always been stupid and killed each other for various reasons and they never learn...

[mugmugmug11]

true, people have killed each other for various reasons.. and when you killed innocents for 800 years you see that you went wrong somewhere so you try to make up for it

In America, they hunted and killed native american indians... now they have the utmost respect for them because of the murder they committed... Loyalists will never grow up like that. someone gave them a false sense of right to a land not native to them and attempted to win a battle where they didnt have the home field advantage.

[juanitaxoxo]

paisley was the cause of it all

[1798Greenflag1916]

This documentary is histrically unsound and should not be trusted

[Dilzybhoy]

In what way? Yes I know it is undoubtedly biased. But I'd like to know in what way it is historically unsound. I know there are one or two mistakes but I'd like your input as to what bits are unsound.

I would value your contribution.

[RamsesIreland]

Why discuss the word "Unsound". In the name of God, do not get into talking about bloody words. The English invaded Ireland, that is simply it.. No fucking discussion

[RamsesIreland]

God Almighty, when will the Irish get some backbone. I have given my all of my life to fight for a United Ireland. I have seen colleagues of mine die. Jesus Christ, I hate the Brits

[1798Greenflag1916]

Well the first thing ..... " James Connolly led the IRA " That hit me like a ton of bricks , Its completely wrong and destroys the memory of the ICA and IRB along with other facts like where they say people began supporting republicanism the day after the easter rising , When it in fact took many weeks along with many other things

although its a very intresting documentary dont get me wrong

[TheTollundWoman]

@1798Greenflag1916

How is it historically inaccurate?

[COMMUNISTGUERRILLA92]

paisley was a right sectarian wanker

[eyewrenchee]

I agree, not only northern Ireland all of Ireland.

And wow the so called Real IRA murdered 2 young Brit soldiers and an Polish immigrant Domino Pizza delivery guy, what a bunch of tough guys, what a bunch of fucking bog Irish losers.

[D0MZ08]

fuck u they shouldnt have been there theres no more war so fuck off home

[eyewrenchee]

So DOMZ08 does your logic also apply to polish migrant pizza delivery guys?

[D0MZ08]

naw it dost because he wasn't their d fight a war that no longer exists was he was their to make money but an sure ur gona say so was the brits well thats what there getten paid d get shot at they no know the dangers

[gerrymoke]

the polish cunts shouldnt be delivering pizzas to the brits

[eyewrenchee]

Poor pizza delivery guy.

[taibshe]

the pizza delivery guy and those young soldiers killed was an atrocity committed by the disident republican movement who do not speak on the part of ireland, her nationalist people or the IRA who protected the nationalist communities during years of violence, trouble and police brutality.

[godbrother10]

at 04:37 they've spelt James Connolly's name wrong

[Dilzybhoy]

Well spotted. But it wasn't spelt wrong. It was just spelled differently. Like Spelled and Spelt for example.

[godbrother10]

yeah you're right, but still if you're gonna quote someone at least spell their name the way they spell it.

[stuart7034]

@Dilzybhoy the irish national movement lost its soul from 1968 ,i am a protestant socialist but the ira became a religious right wing movemnt ther4 exluding people like me who h8td the ulster unionst ruling class

[Dilzybhoy]

@stuart7034 Stuart, I am really sorry you felt and feel that way. I don't believe they did. Certainly some of it's supporters were sectarian idiots with no political analysis. But the war was not with the unionist community. Even when the unionist working class were being fed fascist bullshit from Paisley and the like. The war was with the crown forces. Invariably, that meant protestant UDR men were targeted. We couldn't just sit there and hope the protestants would join NICRA. They were asked.

[Dilzybhoy]

I belive there were certain elements within the republican movement who were right ring religous bigots. But the left was by far in the majority and in control. I wished that more protestants would join the republican movement to avoid the secterian conflict but the unionist rulling class were hellbent on making it a secterian war. They [Unionst WC] were fed lies that the OIRA were planning an armed revolution. But it was Paisley's and other prominent unioist leaders UPV that was it stirring up.

[stuart7034]

@Dilzybhoy i have to think about ur rply , serious monment going on in my mind , will right back when i hve more thoughts i can express by the way watched "irish ways" ,excellent

[blunt1984]

It's British Hitler, Rev Ian Paisley!

[revosuicide86]

invaluable information for the world to behold. end all occupation and oppression. FREE PALESTINE!!

[phact11]

I saw this movie in 1980 in Cambridge MA about a year before the infamous hunger strike. Every Amrican of Irish descent needs to see this film and learn of the history of their people. Also, for all the pop culture notoriety of Bloody Sunday (U2, the Greengrass film) remember that the march was in protest over internment. Think about that the next time you hear expressions like rendition, wire-tapping w/o a warrant, waterboarding, Gitmo.

[zombiekiller]

Very well said. Very true.