did you guys catch Eddie's talking guitar at beginning ? It was pretty woman Valerie calling for Eddie, "Eddie? Eddie? Ehhdieee . . ?" I think Im the only one who has ever noticed this.
Eddie Van Halen is one of those ingenious "Inventors Of Sound" that musicians have to back themselves up with. Knowledge makes us all grow in our learning about sound...in music of course, and without the great balls that Michael Anthony gave to their sound, Dave wouldn't probably have gotten the DLR FLASH that goes with ALL of their greatest songs! ...in my opinion, that is.
Listening to the raw guitar tracks like this has actually cheered me up greatly.All these years of trying to get the EVH sound like the albums frustrated me ,because I thought it never quite sounded right.It turns out I was playing and sounding pretty darn close to Eddie after all.The trick is to use a dry sound and not too much distortion.
Do you know that lots of guitarists (particularly punk guys) doing recordings today will actually wrap the high 3 strings (e,b,g) in electrical tape to keep them from ringing out?!?! They don't even know how to keep an electric guitar quiet! Useless.
i can't believe after listening to the isolated track that anyone in their right mind could ACTUALLY believe that a frikkin "beer can" was used to create those sounds. it is incrdibley obvious that it is the springs of the trem that are being manipulated to create those sounds. as a guitarist of over 30 years myself, i can attest to how those sounds were created. if ya got a trem guitar, simply scrape the springs with a pick and you can hear as plain as day the SAME SOUNDS.
His timing IS technically "off", but it works in the song, and that's what makes it sound a bit more real. Today, you would try to fix that either by splicing together multiple takes or using software that would fix the timing. And that's why today's rock sounds dead. Like it was played by computers, because it is!
@andrewroudny exactly dude. everything today sounds boring and perfect in a bad way. everything is worked so everything is perfect. i dont like it. they should all go back to the 8 track tapes and maybe theyll sound better lol
Roy Orbison had to have approved! Diver Down - Eddie's least favourite album because of the covers. Like most perfectiionists, way too hard on himself. What a tone.
@sonitusdeus Yeah, i never noticed until i hear the isolated guitar track. There's a lot of places where it sounds like eddie lost his timing but left them in anyway. It tells me that there were few takes during the recording sessions and that there were no "punched in" segments as its the unfortunate norm in today's recording sessions. Today, artist digitally splice their crappy music from hundreds of small pieces since they can't play thier own songs all the way thought without f-ing up.
you're all wrong...i remember when this came out. what he did was mike up the actual springs in the trem and scraped the springs themselves. that's why it sounds so odd. what you are hearing is him picking the springs in conjunction with depressing the whammy bar. reall cool sounds only eddie would think to do something this pshycotic.
funny thing is...a lot of the high pitched squeels...were not done how most thought, he just pushed the string down onto the pickup at a high distorted sound level. It had nothing to do with bending strings up to raise the pitch. He did use the trem toget a few of the squeels though
@vSupaSonic2051 lol he didnt use the drill till poundcake i think been playing too much guitar hero ive read his interviews where he stated how he used a beer can and even went as far to say what brand
@gargano3000 many people notice this in several of his isolated tracks . . .from what i can tell though, it's him making slight adjustments to stay in balance with alex . . . cause sometimes they get a little off, and need to re-adjust to be in time with eachother . . .
@gargano3000 He's not off. Whoever made the tracks did them off Guitar Hero and the timing has been a problem. People have figured how to do it without those issues now.
@codyjt5150 trust me.. do coke or beer bottle.. just simple Floyd Rose bar tricks...
ie: you pull the string off.. G string @ 2nd and 3rd fret in this case ) then grab the bar and PULL up... to make the noise... I think after playing for 30 years I can say I can hear it...
BTW: NO slam at all..!!!!! HONEST..!!!!!!!
just explaining is all...
as a FYI.. the "other part " .. he is using a old keyboard to make "those" sounds.. the man did come up with some killer stuff for sure.. lol
@kb7010 believe it or not dave did the keyboards and of course ed did the guitar dave stated it in a interview the reason this track was done was because the video they made for pretty women was too long and dave decided to make a instrumental up so they wouldnt have to cut any out.
Thanks for posting this. I believe Ed ran a beer bottle up the fretboard to get the high pitched sounds. My favorite moment is 1:21, great filler. The distortion at the beginning sounds like old Hendrix, especially "ESP" at the beginning of the Axis-Bold as Love album.
He doesn't play in perfect segmented time, but more like a pianist who plays with feeling for each note. Part of how he sounds so good, I think, because he listens to it as he plays instead of just hoping to get it perfect.
My day I had to put a couple of quaters on the record to slow it down also changing he pitch.I see now alot of Ed Heads including myself missed alot of nuanses.Back to the drawing board for me Fuck you Ed LOL...
Damn guitar players today who are learning have it easy.Not only can hear just Ed you can snatch these up convert them to mp3 to make it easier by playing these on Windows media player and slowing down the tune without effecting the pitch
'Intuder' sounds like something out of a Science Fiction film done with computer generated technology, but he was only using an electric guitar!!!! Sounds like the speakers are ripping apart. I love it!
Yeah, me too. I learned to play by ear from copying RECORDS becasue we doidn;t have a tape player when I was a teen( in the 80s). I had to literally take needle and repeatedly place it over the parts I wanted to learn. Today, I think that a person almost has to be slow or something to not be able to at least develop some skills. I mean, players can now download entire songs with isolated tracks and tab to learn how to play. None of that was available to me when I was starting out.
@SpaceBear77 I don't know if they're any better, really. If you look at them side by side on an EQ, the "remastered" ones are just louder. All you have to do is turn up your old ones.
Holy SHIT,I love these isolated tracks!
eliizme 2 weeks ago in playlist More videos from VanHalenStoreDOTcom
A living GENIUS. WOW! GREAT SONG IN ISOLATION!
arrdvarks 1 month ago in playlist More videos from VanHalenStoreDOTcom
Fantastic btw is that Gene Simmons in the background?
racecar06 1 month ago
did you guys catch Eddie's talking guitar at beginning ? It was pretty woman Valerie calling for Eddie, "Eddie? Eddie? Ehhdieee . . ?" I think Im the only one who has ever noticed this.
craziesthorse 1 month ago in playlist More videos from VanHalenStoreDOTcom
Eddie=Genius
giuliopoli69 2 months ago 2
Eddie Van Halen is one of those ingenious "Inventors Of Sound" that musicians have to back themselves up with. Knowledge makes us all grow in our learning about sound...in music of course, and without the great balls that Michael Anthony gave to their sound, Dave wouldn't probably have gotten the DLR FLASH that goes with ALL of their greatest songs! ...in my opinion, that is.
wizzzeeee 3 months ago
Listening to the raw guitar tracks like this has actually cheered me up greatly.All these years of trying to get the EVH sound like the albums frustrated me ,because I thought it never quite sounded right.It turns out I was playing and sounding pretty darn close to Eddie after all.The trick is to use a dry sound and not too much distortion.
laiosto 4 months ago
...wow...my favorite guitar player speeds up and slows down too !!!....cool now i don't have to practice TOO hard to get it..thanks, Ed...
boocho1 4 months ago
amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bsouthe 5 months ago
Do you know that lots of guitarists (particularly punk guys) doing recordings today will actually wrap the high 3 strings (e,b,g) in electrical tape to keep them from ringing out?!?! They don't even know how to keep an electric guitar quiet! Useless.
andrewroudny 6 months ago
i can't believe after listening to the isolated track that anyone in their right mind could ACTUALLY believe that a frikkin "beer can" was used to create those sounds. it is incrdibley obvious that it is the springs of the trem that are being manipulated to create those sounds. as a guitarist of over 30 years myself, i can attest to how those sounds were created. if ya got a trem guitar, simply scrape the springs with a pick and you can hear as plain as day the SAME SOUNDS.
bach5150 6 months ago
The volume in that room must have been insane.
Icepacalapse 6 months ago 2
That was great! Thanks for sharing.
Tat2Dragons 6 months ago
His timing IS technically "off", but it works in the song, and that's what makes it sound a bit more real. Today, you would try to fix that either by splicing together multiple takes or using software that would fix the timing. And that's why today's rock sounds dead. Like it was played by computers, because it is!
andrewroudny 7 months ago 2
@andrewroudny exactly dude. everything today sounds boring and perfect in a bad way. everything is worked so everything is perfect. i dont like it. they should all go back to the 8 track tapes and maybe theyll sound better lol
frankenstrat25 6 months ago 7
@frankenstrat25 , agreed. Whatever the genre of music, today everything is contrived and over processed. No soul or spontaneity.
144wychwood 3 months ago
never heard this .... I have fallen,and I can't get up....This is off the charts..........
rd80schild 7 months ago
His timing is NOT off, it's the way this track was isolated which created that.
raremountainbear 7 months ago
Drill is on Poundcake
emailflyers 7 months ago
damn THIS is what I wanted to hear all those years ago---back in the cassette days!!!
philosovitz 8 months ago
the universe conspired a creation for all to behold. It first took the form of an electric guitar and then a human by the name of Eddie Van Halen.
scat311 8 months ago
I would LOVE to hear the isolate drum track too! Alex kills it with this beat
nuve9 8 months ago
EDWARD "VAN HALEN" IS A MUSICAL "GENIUS"!!!!!!!!!!
MrMegaFredzeppelin 9 months ago
"AWESOME"!!!!!!!!
MrMegaFredzeppelin 9 months ago
Roy Orbison had to have approved! Diver Down - Eddie's least favourite album because of the covers. Like most perfectiionists, way too hard on himself. What a tone.
kchamz 9 months ago
his timing seems off in quite a few places...weird...
maybe it's just me though
sonitusdeus 10 months ago
@sonitusdeus Yeah, i never noticed until i hear the isolated guitar track. There's a lot of places where it sounds like eddie lost his timing but left them in anyway. It tells me that there were few takes during the recording sessions and that there were no "punched in" segments as its the unfortunate norm in today's recording sessions. Today, artist digitally splice their crappy music from hundreds of small pieces since they can't play thier own songs all the way thought without f-ing up.
zer0dahero 9 months ago
@vSupaSonic2051 This is not a drill gun. That came much later. Longracing25 is correct !!!
EVH is GOD
ckr1231 11 months ago
@ckr1231 No, no, no. EVH is the HARD ROCK GOD!!!!
MrMostaza1 11 months ago
@MrMostaza1 EVH is GOD and that is all there is to it !!!
ckr1231 11 months ago
you're all wrong...i remember when this came out. what he did was mike up the actual springs in the trem and scraped the springs themselves. that's why it sounds so odd. what you are hearing is him picking the springs in conjunction with depressing the whammy bar. reall cool sounds only eddie would think to do something this pshycotic.
bach5150 11 months ago
@bach5150 he used a beer can and scarped it against the strings eddie did a whole interview about this album track by track
motleycrue24 6 months ago
Randy Rhoads was his only equal.
Jim21680 11 months ago 3
@Jim21680 very close but to me Randy Rhoads came a close second...(:
thisgirlalexaa 10 months ago
funny thing is...a lot of the high pitched squeels...were not done how most thought, he just pushed the string down onto the pickup at a high distorted sound level. It had nothing to do with bending strings up to raise the pitch. He did use the trem toget a few of the squeels though
longracing25 1 year ago
@vSupaSonic2051 he doesn't use a drill for this
dokken447 1 year ago 2
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@vSupaSonic2051 he used a Schlitz Malt Liquor beer can he did a whole interview on the diver down album track by track look it up
motleycrue24 1 year ago
@vSupaSonic2051 lol he didnt use the drill till poundcake i think been playing too much guitar hero ive read his interviews where he stated how he used a beer can and even went as far to say what brand
motleycrue24 1 year ago
Is this the original or is it re-recorded by Ed recently?
t3hPoundcake 1 year ago
his timin is off on the riff at some points
gargano3000 1 year ago
@gargano3000 many people notice this in several of his isolated tracks . . .from what i can tell though, it's him making slight adjustments to stay in balance with alex . . . cause sometimes they get a little off, and need to re-adjust to be in time with eachother . . .
Chillybeef123 1 year ago
@gargano3000 He's not off. Whoever made the tracks did them off Guitar Hero and the timing has been a problem. People have figured how to do it without those issues now.
darkknight91 1 year ago
i realized how other instruments are important!
tkrjpn 1 year ago
THANK YOU I HAVE BEEN LOOKING OFR THIS FOR MONTH'S THX
GTA1234565432 1 year ago
The tone here is unbelievable.
ByrdWhiteMovie 1 year ago 2
@Cliner98 he's also using either a coke can or a beer bottle on some parts from what i've heard lol
codyjt5150 1 year ago
@codyjt5150 trust me.. do coke or beer bottle.. just simple Floyd Rose bar tricks...
ie: you pull the string off.. G string @ 2nd and 3rd fret in this case ) then grab the bar and PULL up... to make the noise... I think after playing for 30 years I can say I can hear it...
BTW: NO slam at all..!!!!! HONEST..!!!!!!!
just explaining is all...
as a FYI.. the "other part " .. he is using a old keyboard to make "those" sounds.. the man did come up with some killer stuff for sure.. lol
kb7010 1 year ago
@kb7010 believe it or not dave did the keyboards and of course ed did the guitar dave stated it in a interview the reason this track was done was because the video they made for pretty women was too long and dave decided to make a instrumental up so they wouldnt have to cut any out.
motleycrue24 1 year ago
@motleycrue24 oh ok mr know it all
roneelynn1 1 year ago
@roneelynn1 oh you know it
motleycrue24 1 year ago
@codyjt5150 Schlitz Malt Liquor
garbeaj 1 year ago
What did you use to isolate this? I would love to be able to do that. Thanks'
myway43 1 year ago
I love intruder, he uses a power drill to get the sound! amazing
batesy200 1 year ago
@batesy200 no hes said in an interview that he used a beer can
frankenstrat25 1 year ago 2
@frankenstrat25 yea i heard that too.
codyjt5150 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this. I believe Ed ran a beer bottle up the fretboard to get the high pitched sounds. My favorite moment is 1:21, great filler. The distortion at the beginning sounds like old Hendrix, especially "ESP" at the beginning of the Axis-Bold as Love album.
JTripper 1 year ago
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JTripper 1 year ago
so fucking sic
skirbyr 1 year ago
He doesn't play in perfect segmented time, but more like a pianist who plays with feeling for each note. Part of how he sounds so good, I think, because he listens to it as he plays instead of just hoping to get it perfect.
jhop5150 1 year ago
My day I had to put a couple of quaters on the record to slow it down also changing he pitch.I see now alot of Ed Heads including myself missed alot of nuanses.Back to the drawing board for me Fuck you Ed LOL...
SAMMARTINO68 1 year ago
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SAMMARTINO68 1 year ago
Damn guitar players today who are learning have it easy.Not only can hear just Ed you can snatch these up convert them to mp3 to make it easier by playing these on Windows media player and slowing down the tune without effecting the pitch
SAMMARTINO68 1 year ago
my best friends little brother thought that the sound of intruder was puppies run over by mac trucks
dkitty8124 1 year ago 2
'Intuder' sounds like something out of a Science Fiction film done with computer generated technology, but he was only using an electric guitar!!!! Sounds like the speakers are ripping apart. I love it!
seasmoke5151 2 years ago 23
@seasmoke5151 he used a drill to make that sound
MrPsychokid11 1 year ago
@MrPsychokid11 he used a beer can brotha
motleycrue24 1 year ago
@seasmoke5151 he also used a drill
gingerguitars 8 months ago
@seasmoke5151
sounds like star trek. where that ship is trying to communicate with the whales.
stusixtyone 4 months ago
@seasmoke5151 Nahh it wasnt the speakers it was just our ears from the awsomeness
MrBobbyhill5150 4 weeks ago
ahhhhh
rOck On
equipt4sound 2 years ago
So sick
aldomania 2 years ago 9
I used to play guitar along to these 2 songs when i was 14.
Man wish i had this then!
johnnybeane 2 years ago
Yeah, me too. I learned to play by ear from copying RECORDS becasue we doidn;t have a tape player when I was a teen( in the 80s). I had to literally take needle and repeatedly place it over the parts I wanted to learn. Today, I think that a person almost has to be slow or something to not be able to at least develop some skills. I mean, players can now download entire songs with isolated tracks and tab to learn how to play. None of that was available to me when I was starting out.
ritter89 2 years ago 2
Same here.
I played along with the LP.
johnnybeane 2 years ago
"Diver Down" has the coolest LP sleeve too.
It's a collage of photos from the 81 tour.
I haven't bought the album on cd since the late 80's so i don't know if the new cd's have those photos in the insert.
johnnybeane 2 years ago
buy it! the sound quality is awesome, much better than on the old 80's cd's
SpaceBear77 2 years ago
the remastered version?
johnnybeane 2 years ago
Yeah. It's clearer and it has more punch.
SpaceBear77 1 year ago 2
cool
johnnybeane 1 year ago
@SpaceBear77 I don't know if they're any better, really. If you look at them side by side on an EQ, the "remastered" ones are just louder. All you have to do is turn up your old ones.
jhop5150 1 year ago
@SpaceBear77 i agree 1000%
x170063 1 year ago