Anyone who is still confused about the public option plan is welcome to visit my profile. I have answers to some of the most commonly asked questions, a link to the ez to read version of the bill sent out by congress and much more. I also have ways in which you can get more involved including phone #'s and petitions.
According to the Economist the total US spending on health care is 17.6% of GDP or 2.2 Trillion dollars. With that we get 2.6 doctors & 3.3 hospital beds per 1,000 people, and we live to an avg. age of 78.2 As a whole Europe spends 9.6% of GDP on health care, has 3.9 doctors & 6.6 hospital beds per 1,000 people and live until they are 81.15 old. If we would just model the European health plan we would save 1 Trillion Dollars a year. Thats 1 Trillion!!!
well it all about the VOTES IN THE NEXT DIVISION CYCLEcalled -elections.govment cheese is a taker not A giver.takers say more ,more ,more,so i aint got be responsible for me....hobo with a dam SSI check...dont debate BEGGARS they have no workin experience.ya should give me what i want,cause im a lazy shitbird.say lame duck ,mr,give me cheese.HEALTH CARE IS DEAD so is stoppin the wars and closin gauntanamo ,say nothing,cause your change is the same old nothing,,WHAT HAS CHANGED?WAITING........
bagdad bob said we aint under attack.just wait we will kill the infidels when they invade.like some one will come to rescue??what has bho done that he said he would if you believe????what
stay tuned for more doing nothing.the wars RAGE.gauntanamo is open for business,healthcare is dead in the water .unless reps get to speak rational change.what has the changer ,changed??.its tough to say i've been had,bamboozled buy another used car salesman...its hard when you believe only to be let down ONCE MORE,,SAY 4 PARTY SYSTEM NOT 2 THAT IS DIVISION IN ITS SELF...THINK...IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY,THINK CHANGE IN US NOT THEM BOOK WRITIN MILLIONAIRE LAWYERS
Since when has it been the federal government's fucking right to be a part of "choice and competition" in a free-market (flawed- but still FREE) system.
BTW are these the same "you guys" who helped elect this Marxist hack from the bowels of Chicago politics, to be our President?
White House need to have concise, clear messages of what they are favor or oppose to when it comes to health care reform. Right now, they are not winning "message war", +40% of people believes death panels, covering illegal immigrate, cutting Medicare benefits etc....
The people needs to understand that public option is only way (except Single Payer) to combat ever increasing premium cost.
Just force everybody to buy insurance for a large insurance corporation, you know like you are force to buy car insurance even though you have never been in an accident. You know what I am saying they are GUILTY before anything has happen, and should be forced to by insurance, yea that's it.
Oh and don't worry Congress will write good laws this time to protects us.
When it comes up for senate vote, repubs should walk out. Let the dems own it. when it is bankrupt, they will blame the repubs anyway, but they won't get away with it. Remember, they own it. It's theirs. Won't be long until they regret it. Of course, when it's bankrupt, they'l try to blame the repubs. LOL
The dems will be happy to own it. Just like they own Medicare, Social Security, the G.I. Bill and all the other great programs that have advanced this country.
"A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs, who has never learned to walk." - FDR
He's completely right. Obama knows what he's doing. He's just letting these people race ahead and jump to all these conclusions while he's pacing himself. The dining room tables will run out of steam soon and the Democrats will pass a plan with the public option.
what value does the Health Insurance industry provide to the US economy? They don't build anything, they don't contribute to scientific understanding or education, they don't improve transportation or telecommunication.
I'd rather pay a tax and not have to worry about it than play games w/ deductibles while they fly their corporate jets.
All we need is a handful of Blue Dogs who'd be willing to shit in their grandchildren's Easter basket. Come on, the rest of the Dems are doing it, it's a hoot.
Hey Gibbs, don't shit where you eat. The press has been Obama's guardian angle, piss them off and they may start doing their jobs. Then you may as well pack and go home.
There is no room for another public program. Deficit neutral, driving down cost....all lies. The only thing that can create competition between companies is THE CONSUMER. Allow cross state insurance buys so people have a choice outside of statewide monopolies. When people really have choice, there is competition. We are taxed so much already. What sense does it make to make up new taxes to pay for spending that we shouldn't even be spending!
It is morally wrong to spend money that we do not have. Create jobs, get people working. Educate. Stop running for office, you already are in. "Washington is broken," said Barack Obama while on the campaign trail -- and now that he's safely in office, he's busy making it worse. Much worse.
And who do you think is going to challenge him? Have conservatives increased in numbers since the election? Republicans haven't done shit, and most Americans are pissed off with them blocking the government from fulfilling campaign promises that people voted for. go cast your vote for Sarah Palin, write it out on a napkin and keep it in your boot ready for 2012.
In the same way that people were upset with Bush, and voted anything dem, just to voice their opinion, the same will happen in reverse. People who have voted for Obama have now expressed that they made a mistake. Those are not all R's that you see out there protesting!! If you think that then you too are in denial. Obama knows that he doesn't have enough votes in the senate to pass this bill if it has a public option. Americans no longer trust Obama in the same way that they once did.
ladylordess, you say it's morally wrong to spend money that we don't have? If that is the case then you right-wing kooks should have started protesting, screaming, and waving your guns when Reagan came into office and ran up record deficits.
Spending money we don't have and putting it on credit is the GOP's mantra. At least Dems raise taxes to pay for their follies.
"Reagan proved deficits don't matter." - Dick Cheney, 2004
Yes, MrGovtCheese: It is morally wrong to spend money that you don't have. That is exactly how we arrived at the housing mess we find ourselves in now. I don't know much about the "right-wing kooks" as you stated, however I'm not really old enough. Were you one, until you lost your job? Obama should not be trying to play politics now. He should worry about getting jobs and an education for these people who can't afford to pay for insurance.
They need a job first, and before a job they need education. They need to be able to purchase affordable insurance and by the Prez working on tort reform, and allowing competition across state lines and doing something about pre-existing conditions, these people can afford to purchase insurance, like the rest of us. Less Government, more free market competition. This is America!!
With your "less government" rant, I suppose you feel that Medicare, Social Security, and the Veterans Administration should be abolished and turned over private enterprise. Yes?
You can't have it both ways and pick and choose the 'socialism' you want, while denigrating what you don't like as evil socialism.
RAnt? lol...... UR still free to think whatever you want for now.......... however once Medicare, Social Security and the Veterans Admin are fixed, BHO can come and talk to us about doing more. Was Government successful in discovering and protecting the world from Madoff???? What good are they? I never mentioned socialism at all. I just believe in the free market and think that if a company deserves to die, we should let it. Not prop it up and subsidize it, by picking and choosing.
AND don't even get me started on Fannie and Freddie and how the government allowed this housing fiasco............. More government??? no thanks!!! Let them stick to roads and bridges and dams.
You never answered my question. Do you want Medicare, Social Security, and the Veterans Administration abolished and turned over to private companies? All those are run by the government, and you stated that you have a problem with that.
You didn't read my response. I answered your question. WHEN the government fixes them, come and talk to me. Don't try to sell me another piece of shit car that you KNOW doesn't work when I have a driveway full of them!!! Unconscionable!!!!!!!
The government CAN'T fix them according to folks like you because the government can't do anything right... right?
You said yourself, "Less Government, more free market competition." So I simply asked if you're in favor of getting rid of Medicare, Social Security, and the Veterans Administration and turning it over to free market? They'll run it better and cheaper according to your logic-- correct?
It figures you won't answer the question. Because everyone knows that the U.S. already has "socialist" programs in place that most voters do not want to give up - like Medicare, Social Security, and the Veterans Administration - all 100% government run.
People like you can run your mouth all day about how the U.S. govt. sucks and is socialist, but when it comes down to brass tacks, reality, and SOLUTIONS your arguments fall flat.
I did answer the question. The judge would even direct you to stop badgering the witness, as she already answered you. Just because I am not saying what you want to hear................... You put words in my mouth, or at least you try too..... LOL.
Medicare isn't a piece of shit car, it's an awesome car that everyone loves, but it's got pretty a pretty bad mpg rating.
Look throughout history at every time you remove government oversight and supposedly empower people with freedom of choice for necessities. Instead of having government (representing all the people) against the insurance companies, now you have individuals fighting insurance companies. Who has more power in that situation?
Agreed people do love medicare (and have earned it) currently. They do not want benefits cut from it. What BHO has proposed would cut payments to doctors to save money. Should we copy a broken system for everyone to draw from the same well that has gone dry? Where do you think this money is going to come from? U guessed it, taxpayers. Middle class taxpayers. I prefer to have a tax line on the current form, so I can donate (100% deductible) to those who are not covered by any existing option.
You do realize that middle class Americans have already received a tax cut as part of the stimulus bill. Not to mention that we're earning profits from the bailed out banks that have repaid their loans, and cracking down on tax evaders by new treaties with Switzerland. If we build this country on a solid foundation, we'll have enough money to provide coverage for those left without a private insurer. Don't forget that illness costs the economy money as well as fixing illness.
He's backing off the public option because even they know how much this will cost. When you try to insure 40 to 60 million who are uninsured, because they cannot afford it or they dont work and get it there. Then the public (taxpayers) who will fund this will have to keep paying more and more to make up for the ones who don't. Like the pres said, the post office is always in trouble not UPS or Fed Ex. Like stamps the price of his so called cheap plan will continually rise, helping no tax payer
OBAMA don't back down on the Public Option. they should get Public Option thru the house w/o blue dogs, i mean how many blue dogs are there? Not enough to hold up the public option so fuck em. Pelosi can get this done. In the senate the can use budget procederals to ram it thru with 50 votes so Liberman and company can go to hell. I don't get it, aren't there 50 dems in the senate who are willing to vote public option? this is going to go thru people. Stay tuned indeed.
Now you'll have to find out how many blue dogs are against the Public Option.
Now the only Public Option there shold be is the option to move to a socialist country. Which that option has always been there. Use it and stop begging like a worthless bum.
Obama will NOT get my vote a second time if he fails with the public option. Grow a pair, Mr. President and do what you promised to do.
almamatters2471 2 years ago
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Anyone who is still confused about the public option plan is welcome to visit my profile. I have answers to some of the most commonly asked questions, a link to the ez to read version of the bill sent out by congress and much more. I also have ways in which you can get more involved including phone #'s and petitions.
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
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Public Option Save a Trillion per year
According to the Economist the total US spending on health care is 17.6% of GDP or 2.2 Trillion dollars. With that we get 2.6 doctors & 3.3 hospital beds per 1,000 people, and we live to an avg. age of 78.2 As a whole Europe spends 9.6% of GDP on health care, has 3.9 doctors & 6.6 hospital beds per 1,000 people and live until they are 81.15 old. If we would just model the European health plan we would save 1 Trillion Dollars a year. Thats 1 Trillion!!!
MyImago 2 years ago
The Obama guys are nothing but liars. If obama employs these types of guys what does that say about him?
maximouni 2 years ago 2
Obama is cutting and running on the public option.
Don't try to rewrite history, Gibbs.
CastorT64 2 years ago 2
Hey, Gibbs, don't you have to run along and polish Obama's "knob".
CastorT64 2 years ago
well it all about the VOTES IN THE NEXT DIVISION CYCLEcalled -elections.govment cheese is a taker not A giver.takers say more ,more ,more,so i aint got be responsible for me....hobo with a dam SSI check...dont debate BEGGARS they have no workin experience.ya should give me what i want,cause im a lazy shitbird.say lame duck ,mr,give me cheese.HEALTH CARE IS DEAD so is stoppin the wars and closin gauntanamo ,say nothing,cause your change is the same old nothing,,WHAT HAS CHANGED?WAITING........
ignorantgullible 2 years ago
bagdad bob said we aint under attack.just wait we will kill the infidels when they invade.like some one will come to rescue??what has bho done that he said he would if you believe????what
ignorantgullible 2 years ago
P-p-p-p-orky the p-p-pig.
seau92037 2 years ago
stay tuned for more doing nothing.the wars RAGE.gauntanamo is open for business,healthcare is dead in the water .unless reps get to speak rational change.what has the changer ,changed??.its tough to say i've been had,bamboozled buy another used car salesman...its hard when you believe only to be let down ONCE MORE,,SAY 4 PARTY SYSTEM NOT 2 THAT IS DIVISION IN ITS SELF...THINK...IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY,THINK CHANGE IN US NOT THEM BOOK WRITIN MILLIONAIRE LAWYERS
ignorantgullible 2 years ago
Since when has it been the federal government's fucking right to be a part of "choice and competition" in a free-market (flawed- but still FREE) system.
BTW are these the same "you guys" who helped elect this Marxist hack from the bowels of Chicago politics, to be our President?
hejustleft 2 years ago
White House need to have concise, clear messages of what they are favor or oppose to when it comes to health care reform. Right now, they are not winning "message war", +40% of people believes death panels, covering illegal immigrate, cutting Medicare benefits etc....
The people needs to understand that public option is only way (except Single Payer) to combat ever increasing premium cost.
USB06 2 years ago
Just force everybody to buy insurance for a large insurance corporation, you know like you are force to buy car insurance even though you have never been in an accident. You know what I am saying they are GUILTY before anything has happen, and should be forced to by insurance, yea that's it.
Oh and don't worry Congress will write good laws this time to protects us.
putittogether 2 years ago
They are going to pass this one way or the other!!We the people are coming for you Obama!!!
killergames187 2 years ago
It is goverment option----not public option.
john51880 2 years ago
When it comes up for senate vote, repubs should walk out. Let the dems own it. when it is bankrupt, they will blame the repubs anyway, but they won't get away with it. Remember, they own it. It's theirs. Won't be long until they regret it. Of course, when it's bankrupt, they'l try to blame the repubs. LOL
OneTokeOver 2 years ago
The dems will be happy to own it. Just like they own Medicare, Social Security, the G.I. Bill and all the other great programs that have advanced this country.
"A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs, who has never learned to walk." - FDR
MrGovtCheese 2 years ago
He's completely right. Obama knows what he's doing. He's just letting these people race ahead and jump to all these conclusions while he's pacing himself. The dining room tables will run out of steam soon and the Democrats will pass a plan with the public option.
themarycity 2 years ago
what value does the Health Insurance industry provide to the US economy? They don't build anything, they don't contribute to scientific understanding or education, they don't improve transportation or telecommunication.
I'd rather pay a tax and not have to worry about it than play games w/ deductibles while they fly their corporate jets.
jrubin22 2 years ago
All we need is a handful of Blue Dogs who'd be willing to shit in their grandchildren's Easter basket. Come on, the rest of the Dems are doing it, it's a hoot.
StalinsLoveChild 2 years ago 2
Hey Gibbs, don't shit where you eat. The press has been Obama's guardian angle, piss them off and they may start doing their jobs. Then you may as well pack and go home.
RightWingTerrorist 2 years ago 2
There is no room for another public program. Deficit neutral, driving down cost....all lies. The only thing that can create competition between companies is THE CONSUMER. Allow cross state insurance buys so people have a choice outside of statewide monopolies. When people really have choice, there is competition. We are taxed so much already. What sense does it make to make up new taxes to pay for spending that we shouldn't even be spending!
Zoklor 2 years ago
It is morally wrong to spend money that we do not have. Create jobs, get people working. Educate. Stop running for office, you already are in. "Washington is broken," said Barack Obama while on the campaign trail -- and now that he's safely in office, he's busy making it worse. Much worse.
ladylordess 2 years ago
4 years is not long enough to plan for anything, he has to put things in place for the future.
Aussiemoo 2 years ago
LOL, Based on his performance, his campaign promises, and his lies, he isn't going to be here in 2012!!!
ladylordess 2 years ago
And who do you think is going to challenge him? Have conservatives increased in numbers since the election? Republicans haven't done shit, and most Americans are pissed off with them blocking the government from fulfilling campaign promises that people voted for. go cast your vote for Sarah Palin, write it out on a napkin and keep it in your boot ready for 2012.
Aussiemoo 2 years ago
In the same way that people were upset with Bush, and voted anything dem, just to voice their opinion, the same will happen in reverse. People who have voted for Obama have now expressed that they made a mistake. Those are not all R's that you see out there protesting!! If you think that then you too are in denial. Obama knows that he doesn't have enough votes in the senate to pass this bill if it has a public option. Americans no longer trust Obama in the same way that they once did.
ladylordess 2 years ago
Aussie this country isnt a dictatorship so just cuz he promised socialism doesnt mean he is gonna get his marxist wish
MrHairyNutz 2 years ago
ladylordess, you say it's morally wrong to spend money that we don't have? If that is the case then you right-wing kooks should have started protesting, screaming, and waving your guns when Reagan came into office and ran up record deficits.
Spending money we don't have and putting it on credit is the GOP's mantra. At least Dems raise taxes to pay for their follies.
"Reagan proved deficits don't matter." - Dick Cheney, 2004
MrGovtCheese 2 years ago
Yes, MrGovtCheese: It is morally wrong to spend money that you don't have. That is exactly how we arrived at the housing mess we find ourselves in now. I don't know much about the "right-wing kooks" as you stated, however I'm not really old enough. Were you one, until you lost your job? Obama should not be trying to play politics now. He should worry about getting jobs and an education for these people who can't afford to pay for insurance.
ladylordess 2 years ago
That's exactly why you need health care reform. So people can afford to the pay for insurance.
MrGovtCheese 2 years ago
They need a job first, and before a job they need education. They need to be able to purchase affordable insurance and by the Prez working on tort reform, and allowing competition across state lines and doing something about pre-existing conditions, these people can afford to purchase insurance, like the rest of us. Less Government, more free market competition. This is America!!
ladylordess 2 years ago
With your "less government" rant, I suppose you feel that Medicare, Social Security, and the Veterans Administration should be abolished and turned over private enterprise. Yes?
You can't have it both ways and pick and choose the 'socialism' you want, while denigrating what you don't like as evil socialism.
MrGovtCheese 2 years ago
RAnt? lol...... UR still free to think whatever you want for now.......... however once Medicare, Social Security and the Veterans Admin are fixed, BHO can come and talk to us about doing more. Was Government successful in discovering and protecting the world from Madoff???? What good are they? I never mentioned socialism at all. I just believe in the free market and think that if a company deserves to die, we should let it. Not prop it up and subsidize it, by picking and choosing.
ladylordess 2 years ago
AND don't even get me started on Fannie and Freddie and how the government allowed this housing fiasco............. More government??? no thanks!!! Let them stick to roads and bridges and dams.
ladylordess 2 years ago
You never answered my question. Do you want Medicare, Social Security, and the Veterans Administration abolished and turned over to private companies? All those are run by the government, and you stated that you have a problem with that.
MrGovtCheese 2 years ago
You didn't read my response. I answered your question. WHEN the government fixes them, come and talk to me. Don't try to sell me another piece of shit car that you KNOW doesn't work when I have a driveway full of them!!! Unconscionable!!!!!!!
ladylordess 2 years ago
The government CAN'T fix them according to folks like you because the government can't do anything right... right?
You said yourself, "Less Government, more free market competition." So I simply asked if you're in favor of getting rid of Medicare, Social Security, and the Veterans Administration and turning it over to free market? They'll run it better and cheaper according to your logic-- correct?
MrGovtCheese 2 years ago
Play the victim!!! It looks so good on you MrGovtCheese. You have said it all!!!
Discussing anything with you is pointless. All you want is FREE GovtCheese. You should consider getting a new name!!!
ladylordess 2 years ago
It figures you won't answer the question. Because everyone knows that the U.S. already has "socialist" programs in place that most voters do not want to give up - like Medicare, Social Security, and the Veterans Administration - all 100% government run.
People like you can run your mouth all day about how the U.S. govt. sucks and is socialist, but when it comes down to brass tacks, reality, and SOLUTIONS your arguments fall flat.
MrGovtCheese 2 years ago
I did answer the question. The judge would even direct you to stop badgering the witness, as she already answered you. Just because I am not saying what you want to hear................... You put words in my mouth, or at least you try too..... LOL.
ladylordess 2 years ago
And you loved every minute of it. :P
MrGovtCheese 2 years ago
Medicare isn't a piece of shit car, it's an awesome car that everyone loves, but it's got pretty a pretty bad mpg rating.
Look throughout history at every time you remove government oversight and supposedly empower people with freedom of choice for necessities. Instead of having government (representing all the people) against the insurance companies, now you have individuals fighting insurance companies. Who has more power in that situation?
Aussiemoo 2 years ago
Agreed people do love medicare (and have earned it) currently. They do not want benefits cut from it. What BHO has proposed would cut payments to doctors to save money. Should we copy a broken system for everyone to draw from the same well that has gone dry? Where do you think this money is going to come from? U guessed it, taxpayers. Middle class taxpayers. I prefer to have a tax line on the current form, so I can donate (100% deductible) to those who are not covered by any existing option.
ladylordess 2 years ago
You do realize that middle class Americans have already received a tax cut as part of the stimulus bill. Not to mention that we're earning profits from the bailed out banks that have repaid their loans, and cracking down on tax evaders by new treaties with Switzerland. If we build this country on a solid foundation, we'll have enough money to provide coverage for those left without a private insurer. Don't forget that illness costs the economy money as well as fixing illness.
Aussiemoo 2 years ago
He's backing off the public option because even they know how much this will cost. When you try to insure 40 to 60 million who are uninsured, because they cannot afford it or they dont work and get it there. Then the public (taxpayers) who will fund this will have to keep paying more and more to make up for the ones who don't. Like the pres said, the post office is always in trouble not UPS or Fed Ex. Like stamps the price of his so called cheap plan will continually rise, helping no tax payer
panthersno15 2 years ago 2
OBAMA don't back down on the Public Option. they should get Public Option thru the house w/o blue dogs, i mean how many blue dogs are there? Not enough to hold up the public option so fuck em. Pelosi can get this done. In the senate the can use budget procederals to ram it thru with 50 votes so Liberman and company can go to hell. I don't get it, aren't there 50 dems in the senate who are willing to vote public option? this is going to go thru people. Stay tuned indeed.
looseperfection 2 years ago
Let's see, Democratic Caucus
(60 members)
And there are 52 members that are blue dog.
Now you'll have to find out how many blue dogs are against the Public Option.
Now the only Public Option there shold be is the option to move to a socialist country. Which that option has always been there. Use it and stop begging like a worthless bum.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 2 years ago 3
Obviously there isn't or we wouldn't have all this hand wringing and bed wetting.
RightWingTerrorist 2 years ago
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davidpark68 2 years ago
Barack must show leadership & say any bill he signs MUST HAVE the Public Option.
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dadaa1234567 2 years ago
worst press sec ever for the worst pres ever
Hellpig 2 years ago 2
God this guy is terrible. Even Helen Thomas (big lib) questioned this buffoon. Dance clown.....dance!
mjnr7777 2 years ago
This guy would be best represented by those Spitting Image puppets...
It wouldn't be very far off. Nazi figurehead douchebag.
HollywoodWags 2 years ago
Worst WH Press Secretary in history
bigkeys72 2 years ago 6