@armadillo4495 he's adding dextrin which slows it down, dont use dextrin on this, and you have granulated bp. However to make "lift" powder, theres a few things. One, use soft wood airfloat charcoal, i use cedar cuz i like the smell when im cooking it. I plan on trying some redwood just for the hell of it. Second, the only way to get your black powder in its meal form to burn faster is by milling it. some as little as 1 hour, 3 hours or the guarenteed to knock sox off 13 hours. my vids!!!
@molywhopx4 You've picked a rad hobbie, I've successfully made a lot of lift (flash grade bp) and this fella isn't the right guy to teach people to make lift powder. First off, dextrin is just a binding agent, and slows burnrate..... PERIOD I only use dextrin in blackmatch fuse, or stars. Without dextrin in your fuse mix, the bp will just fall off when bent. Check out my vid on ball mills, because if you want lift grade bp, you must have one. start off by finding Lead balls like at walmart
i did this on my bp my bp was a little bit slower tha n tthe 1 in my vid i granulated it and nows it like super slow i only let it fry for liek 1 hour tho and the granules can be squished into paste with a spoon please write back
hey do u have to ballmill ur bp and then granulate it or can u just granulate once made? Also when ballmill i understand how it crushes bp too its finest but how does granulating make bp fast just like ballmilled powder.
Ok thanks for the heads up. Also i dont have a mortar pestle or ball mill right now is there any other way i can grind the chemicals fine to make bp for mortar shells?
you can use a ceramic bowl (regular bowl) and a hammer and use it like a mortar and pestle it will be pretty much the same thing just make nice and fine then just granulate =]
because that would make meal powder and it doesnt burn as fast. lift powder is used to lift shells.. or starmine stars because it is granulated so it burned faster
yes,coffee grind each seperate then seive together about four times.Mix with hot water and cold isopropol to wet then mesh screen to granulate and get fast as hell crap.I have had some thats is like flash powder.For lift it needs to be fast but not to fast can be dangerous.
I mentioned this in one of my other videos, i have a crappy rock tumbler not a real ball mill so it took me 32 hours a real ball mill it should take 3-5 hours.
Hi - good video, i understand what the purpose of granulating with dextrin is and im giving it a go for myself soon but what i dont get is, when you ram your granules into a rocket dont they just press into one solid mass again like meal powder would or are they too hard? if they are too hard what stops them just falling out of the bottom of the rocket? ty for any feedback
oh i use dextrin for my stars.. but with granulateing bp what does the dextrin do i just use bp than ad rubbing alchol and than granulate it.. plz tell me another way that makes stronger granules. does the dextrin make it into 1 thing and make it so it wont fall apart when ur granulated it
No regular BP is so fine there is very little air between the particles so fire starts at one end and burns through. w/ granulated BP there are large air pockets allowing the fire to propagate very quickly.
ive made and launched shells but granulateing bp is a pain when i make it to wet and it goes into stringey clumps. so my question is. u said ad the dextrin but why not ad the dextrin when ball milling or is it cause u might want to use the normal bp with no dextrin for something else
If your BP is too wet add less water. Dextrin is only used to make the wet BP clumps stick together adding it to meal would do nothing. you might get away with meal lift for 2" shells but anything bigger your gonna have problems.
Dextrin is a binder it is like a weak powdered glue when it becomes wet it becomes gummy and it holds the black powder into little granules and makes them hard when they dry.
because of the dextrin or riche starch you can make little grains of black powder. they do this for two reasons: 1: there is more air between the grains and therefore it will burn more violently. 2: no more dusty black powder flies around when scooping it in a tube or whereever;thus easy to work with.
you know a easyer way dont you its mp lift powder not as powderfull can lift maby 1 pound or maby 2 if ur lucky aroung 50 feet up!! harder to make but if u dont got black powder itll work ill have it posted withit 5 days if i can!!
dextrin is a water soluble binder it can be purchased at sky lighter or made by baking corn starch in an oven at 400 degrees for a couple hours until it turns golden brown.
Mines need lifting?
PyroLukeUk 4 months ago
@PyroLukeUk Yes, how else would the stars be propelled upwards and ignited?
crazyboy0602 4 months ago
@crazyboy0602 true, my bad i was thinking along the lines of lift asin like the lift charge on shells lol
PyroLukeUk 3 months ago
2:30 - 2:39 thats what she said
breckenridge21 5 months ago
please use latex gloves cuz your hand could in fact cause a spark that could set you on *FIRE*
12345678klisfil 6 months ago
@12345678klisfil That is a lie. Stop spreading misinformation.
crazyboy0602 6 months ago
@crazyboy0602 THATS REAL
12345678klisfil 6 months ago
how long do i dry it for?!?!
thawdani 10 months ago
where do i get spoon?
YoungMaqler 1 year ago
iv seen people use all alcholoe and i think it burns faster and more consistent.
Vforceboy 1 year ago
cool vid
Chriscrew101 1 year ago
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9DragonMaster 1 year ago
2:37 - 2:39
That's what she said xD
pyr0ph1L 1 year ago
how do you make dextrin or where to get it
napalmonfire 2 years ago
Do you really need detrin???
Jasongenesiran 2 years ago
@Jasongenesiran Dextrin, not detrin and yes you need it. It can be made very easily at home with common a household item.
crazyboy0602 2 years ago
@crazyboy0602 i dontnuse dextrin and my granulated bp is perfectly fine
WEDFED908 1 year ago
you can also use liquid starch! and liquid starch doesn't slow down the bruning rate like dextrin does.
XXXXPyrofreakXXXX 2 years ago
@Jasongenesiran where can i get dextrin? or how do you make it?
molywhopx4 1 year ago
@molywhopx4 bake corn starch
TheXxhalofanxX 11 months ago
thats the same stuff to make tiger tail stars.
FIREWORKSgalor 2 years ago
yeah if your lift burns slower than your meal that defeats the whole porpuse of it and your doing something wrong bro
armadillo4495 2 years ago
1g of meal burns faster than 1g of lift but 100g of lift burns faster than 100g of meal.
crazyboy0602 2 years ago
@armadillo4495 he's adding dextrin which slows it down, dont use dextrin on this, and you have granulated bp. However to make "lift" powder, theres a few things. One, use soft wood airfloat charcoal, i use cedar cuz i like the smell when im cooking it. I plan on trying some redwood just for the hell of it. Second, the only way to get your black powder in its meal form to burn faster is by milling it. some as little as 1 hour, 3 hours or the guarenteed to knock sox off 13 hours. my vids!!!
9DragonMaster 1 year ago
@9DragonMaster how can i make Bp burn faster?
molywhopx4 1 year ago
@molywhopx4 You've picked a rad hobbie, I've successfully made a lot of lift (flash grade bp) and this fella isn't the right guy to teach people to make lift powder. First off, dextrin is just a binding agent, and slows burnrate..... PERIOD I only use dextrin in blackmatch fuse, or stars. Without dextrin in your fuse mix, the bp will just fall off when bent. Check out my vid on ball mills, because if you want lift grade bp, you must have one. start off by finding Lead balls like at walmart
9DragonMaster 1 year ago
why not just skip granulating it
MacsCanfly 2 years ago
becoz it won't burn fast enough to lift the firework out of the firing tube (the shell out of the mortar)
HaydenPK 2 years ago
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Why did you say it burns slower than meal? Granulation improves burn rate..
companyof1 2 years ago
Why did you say it burns slower than regular meal? Granulated BP is much faster..
companyof1 2 years ago 2
because real bp lift is 74/14/12 ratio
KarenYannick 2 years ago
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companyof1 2 years ago
This doesnt actually show how to make lift powder it just showing us how to granualte black powder, wrong title man!!
QuarterSticks 2 years ago
Granulated black powder = Lift powder.
crazyboy0602 2 years ago 2
i did this on my bp my bp was a little bit slower tha n tthe 1 in my vid i granulated it and nows it like super slow i only let it fry for liek 1 hour tho and the granules can be squished into paste with a spoon please write back
skarrip 2 years ago
I don't understand you.
crazyboy0602 2 years ago
u can use the black powder right as soon as your done tbh....
flashsn1pe 3 years ago
hey there could u use ethanol
catchAlite 3 years ago
what is dexter or, what he mix with the black powder
Massivfanstyle 3 years ago
Read the comments.
crazyboy0602 3 years ago
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PyroHawk1 3 years ago
Dextrin is a binder ;)
PyroHawk1 3 years ago
hey do u have to ballmill ur bp and then granulate it or can u just granulate once made? Also when ballmill i understand how it crushes bp too its finest but how does granulating make bp fast just like ballmilled powder.
badb0y1300 3 years ago
if you don't ball mill it first you don't have BP you have green mix.
crazyboy0602 3 years ago
Ok thanks for the heads up. Also i dont have a mortar pestle or ball mill right now is there any other way i can grind the chemicals fine to make bp for mortar shells?
badb0y1300 3 years ago
Not really only the CIA method might work. but you really need a ball mill. if you can't get decent BP what can you launch?
crazyboy0602 3 years ago
actually... there is a way.
you can use a ceramic bowl (regular bowl) and a hammer and use it like a mortar and pestle it will be pretty much the same thing just make nice and fine then just granulate =]
dr09294 3 years ago
why make lift powder? why dont u use just bp? please reply :)
tittytwister5251 3 years ago
because that would make meal powder and it doesnt burn as fast. lift powder is used to lift shells.. or starmine stars because it is granulated so it burned faster
BuiltCrazy 3 years ago
lol lift powder is bp hahaha
badb0y1300 3 years ago
lift powder is granulated bp which is what hes doing
lol
robeezy789 3 years ago
yes,coffee grind each seperate then seive together about four times.Mix with hot water and cold isopropol to wet then mesh screen to granulate and get fast as hell crap.I have had some thats is like flash powder.For lift it needs to be fast but not to fast can be dangerous.
Jeffrocket55 3 years ago
I use the boil method and get extremely fast burning bp.Sometimes i am amazed how fast some of it is.!great vid
Jeffrocket55 3 years ago
Have you tried the other methods?
Atevra 3 years ago
how long did yo ball mill the bp prior to granulating it? nice vids too. im about to make a d1 batch soon
spookyevo1985 3 years ago
I mentioned this in one of my other videos, i have a crappy rock tumbler not a real ball mill so it took me 32 hours a real ball mill it should take 3-5 hours.
crazyboy0602 3 years ago
3-5 will get you decent with a ballmill but with mine i mill it for 12 hours and get a really nice meal i just suck at granulating
plasm7 3 years ago
Hi - good video, i understand what the purpose of granulating with dextrin is and im giving it a go for myself soon but what i dont get is, when you ram your granules into a rocket dont they just press into one solid mass again like meal powder would or are they too hard? if they are too hard what stops them just falling out of the bottom of the rocket? ty for any feedback
Homotapir 3 years ago
For ramming rockets you use meal powder not lift.
crazyboy0602 3 years ago
oh i use dextrin for my stars.. but with granulateing bp what does the dextrin do i just use bp than ad rubbing alchol and than granulate it.. plz tell me another way that makes stronger granules. does the dextrin make it into 1 thing and make it so it wont fall apart when ur granulated it
runescapeplayer321 3 years ago
why not just use normal BP as a lift powder???
corndog815 3 years ago
It wont burn the same.
crazyboy0602 3 years ago
so it will burn quicker
corndog815 3 years ago
No regular BP is so fine there is very little air between the particles so fire starts at one end and burns through. w/ granulated BP there are large air pockets allowing the fire to propagate very quickly.
crazyboy0602 3 years ago
oh sweet, im gonna make this
is the diff between stars and aerial shells that
star sit inside the mortar while shells sit on top?
corndog815 3 years ago
You really need to do some research stars are the little balls of composition that are loaded in aerial shells they burn red or blue or maybe glitter.
I mention that lift can be used to lift stars because in a starmine you essentially put BP lift in a mortar and cover it with stars then fuse it.
crazyboy0602 3 years ago
ok thanx
corndog815 3 years ago
even tho i use streight bp for lift
runescapeplayer321 3 years ago
ive made and launched shells but granulateing bp is a pain when i make it to wet and it goes into stringey clumps. so my question is. u said ad the dextrin but why not ad the dextrin when ball milling or is it cause u might want to use the normal bp with no dextrin for something else
runescapeplayer321 3 years ago
If your BP is too wet add less water. Dextrin is only used to make the wet BP clumps stick together adding it to meal would do nothing. you might get away with meal lift for 2" shells but anything bigger your gonna have problems.
crazyboy0602 3 years ago
i wouldnt use dextrin before i dont know why but i milled a batch with some and the bath was horrible it went really slow so i wouldnt
plasm7 3 years ago
What i don't get is why is dextrin needed to make lift powder?
menu12345 3 years ago
Dextrin is a binder it is like a weak powdered glue when it becomes wet it becomes gummy and it holds the black powder into little granules and makes them hard when they dry.
crazyboy0602 3 years ago
yes i know, i use it to make stars but why is it added to lift powder?
menu12345 3 years ago
For the exact same reason to hold it together and make it hard.
crazyboy0602 3 years ago
because of the dextrin or riche starch you can make little grains of black powder. they do this for two reasons: 1: there is more air between the grains and therefore it will burn more violently. 2: no more dusty black powder flies around when scooping it in a tube or whereever;thus easy to work with.
KraftPaper 3 years ago
you know a easyer way dont you its mp lift powder not as powderfull can lift maby 1 pound or maby 2 if ur lucky aroung 50 feet up!! harder to make but if u dont got black powder itll work ill have it posted withit 5 days if i can!!
cloudlighter 3 years ago
match powder is not legitimate pyrotechnics.
crazyboy0602 3 years ago
srry but whats ''dextrin'' and where do you get it?
jasper903 4 years ago
dextrin is a water soluble binder it can be purchased at sky lighter or made by baking corn starch in an oven at 400 degrees for a couple hours until it turns golden brown.
crazyboy0602 3 years ago
the video is stace my computer disn't play it
dikkevettehap 4 years ago
you know it burns faster if you don't use dextrin right.
mormanman13 4 years ago
edit++++
good tutorial though
mormanman13 4 years ago
cool ive been tryin to make this forever!!!!
shootme500 4 years ago
yeah me to i didnt mix the water well. thanks man
fatworshiper 4 years ago