Sometimes they are gay couples in Dallas, Texas which I saw on the TV show Cheaters and live in person. But all I am saying is it doesn't matter where you live because they would always be gay marriage almost in every state even in popular cities such as Dallas, TX, Los Angeles, CA, Las Vegas, NV, and maybe Phoenix, AZ.
I want all you christians who thing being gay is wrong to wach the true film, Prayers for bobby, u can wach it on Youtube just type in Prayers for bobby in youtube its based on a true story. I hope that can give you a beter understanding
Religion today cant seem to exist without hating someone or something. What happened to Love and the care of your brother, feeding the hungry and clothing the poor. Love seems to be only for themselves. Christianity in America has been warped into a self righteous body of small mindedness and hate for anything outside their own narrow belief. Jesus himself would not recognize Christianity today. It ALL a travesty.
We won't be able to keep Christian morals in this country for too long. It's sad, but gay marriage will pass. God knows this. He will come when everything is immoral. We can't stop it, so be ready. Christians, affirm your faith.
This country wasn't built on Christianity. It was built on DEISM. The man who wrote our CONSTITUTION was an Episcopalian and DEIST.
There is a separation of church and state and freedom of religion for a reason. Keep your God out of everyone else's lives. If you were really devout in your religion, I'd think you'd be helping someone in need rather than trying to take away the rights of your fellow humans.
Your history is skewed. I won't hold that against you. I think you'll find that congress has spent federal moneys on forwarding the gospel of Jesus Christ. And the seperation of church and state is where in the constitution?
perhaps you might want to take the time and actually READ the constitution yourself. You will find that "your" history is skewed. Where has congress spent federal money of forwarding the gospel ????? THIS is what the Religious fanatics do best ... simply make things up to support their agenda and pass it off as fact. It all falls apart when put up to ANY scrutiny .
$375,000 of tax money going to Camp Barnabas, a summer camp in Purdy, MO. Its webite proclaims that all volunteers working there should be "ready to help us spread the good news of the Gospel of Jesus Christ to all campers that come through our gates."
$282,000 to the World Impact Youth Program: "A Christian missions organization seeking to present Christ to the unchurched through all of our ministries."
Thats because they don't really believe in Christ and what he stood for .. They are just the KKK hiding behind religion now days. They get the Free religious pass this way. pretty smart for a bunch of rednecks eh
$595,000 of tax money going to Morning Star Ranch in Florence, KS. The ranch offers a Christian leadership training program that includes Bible studies and devotions. It also operates camps for children, the goals of which are described as "relationship building, evangelism, spirital growth and wholesome fun." The ranch's operators say its facilities are "made available to all followers of Christ."
Is it possible for you to turn around and see your own belief as being immoral as a Christian ? You place yourself before Gods plan. Gays were also created by HIM.. stop messing with his plans and Speaking for HIM. Be more Christ like in your religion that reports to follow his word..
God did not create gays. Being gay is not an identity- it's a behavior/ sin. God created man in his own image and gave him a free will. I have one and so do you. It's all in what you do with it. The fact is we are all guilty of sin and someone guilty of sodomy is guilty same as a liar or a lover of self. James 2:10 says we are guilty of all if we commit just one sin. So, I don't put myself before God's plan nor do I put myself before you. Don't presume to know what I think or what I know!
God DID create homosexuality. If you look at Genesis, after God created Adam, HE made all the animals, but none was found to be a suitable helpmate so he made Eve. Since homosexuality is found in thousands of animal species, technically it existed BEFORE heterosexuality, and before God created Eve. Oh, and if we all have free will and I'm gay because of my "choice", then the only reason you aren't is because you resist all your desires to screw other men then, right?
If you look at genisis it says that god judged all flesh because it had corrupted itself. God told the animals to be fruitful and multiply. I doubt that you can show gay sex took place prior to straight sex. It is true that you can freely choose to sin against God. You seem to have the problem of not seeing your sin as sin as God does. Therefore you can't seem to want to turn from it. Instead, you make up all these ideas about how your particular behavior is fine; how your beliefs are valid.
Long term homosexual relationships occur naturally in baboons, dolphins and certian monkeys. Not just one time incidents, but long term partnerships (in the wild as well as captivity). Homosexuality is naturally occuring. I wonder if animals have free will or the ability to sin?
Can you read or only write? I already said that the Bible says that ALL flesh has corrupted itself. About natural occurences- The Bible says that the NATURAL man receiveth not the things of the spirit because they are spiritually discerned. You are trying to discern without the spirit of truth. The Bible says there would be those who are ever learning but never come to the know the truth. Why do you care to tell me these amazing facts? Is this a debate?
how is this becoming a church and state arguement? Thats just straight up in - humane! a pee pee in a bumm bum? Sick! aside frm religion.. thats just sick!
mikeywells sounds like an absolute moron ABSOLUTELY NO ON 8 straight people straight poeple engage in anal sex too soo do you think they are perverts too?
What are conservatives so afraid of anyway? That you're kid is going to go to school and learn that two people of the same sex can actually like each other, fall in love and get married? Really is that what they are trying to hide? Trying to live by the good book? News flash THEY'RE GOING TO KNOW ABOUT IT EITHER WAY. Especially if they live in California. As a parent you're going to have to explain to your kid one way or another about gay couples. They'll see it in public and they'll ask ?'s
There's no grey area here, it's pretty black and white and it's wrong that Prop 8 passed. I don't care what anybody says. It's a shame that we take such a giant leap forward with the election of Obama and then two steps back with this nonsense.
If these people have less rights then the regular us citizen and can't get married then they shouldn't have to do regular us citizen things like say uhhhhh.... pay taxes. Yea why not right? This prop was a joke. A complete joke. It'll be revoked soon.
I dont promote bestiality, or rape, or incest then why would I promote another sick and perverted view of affection? Ive never been taught that rape is alright then why is homosexuality? Oh yeah stop pushin your gayness on us just as much as we, push our religion on you, youre pushin you shit on us we dont have STAIGHT MARCHES but here are you gays go, parading around, announcing how GAY you are!! Why do that? You lost. We won. As long as there are Christians, well always win.
Protect the minority from the majority? The truth is to protect the rights of the states from the tyranny of the rich minority. You are making no point anyway. They voted- the homos lost. If they'd won, I'd say "that's how the system works." But not you. It only works when you get your way. If you don't, it's unfair, unconstitutional, unchristian or something.
I AM A PROUD ASS HOLE GET IT RIGHT GAY IS NOT A CHOICE IT'S WHAT YOUR SICC MIND MAKE YOU THINK THAT and i am tried of people saying they where born gay so you saying god made in perfect people i don't think so.... CONGRADULATIONS ON THE PEOPLE WHO CAME OUT AND VOTE THE RIGHT WAY WHICH WAS yes on 8 and i mean that.one man and one woman let god plan it.. I KNOW YOU GOING TO LASH OUT ON MY COMMENTS SO WHAT I DON'T CARE
So, today we heard on the news that a guy got attacked for saying yes on 8 at one of these protests.. your attacking people who dont think the way you do?? what are they trying to accomplish? people voted yes! you cant just annoy and attack people and expect them to agree with you. knock it off- your making yourself look stupid no reason for violence cuz you dont like how someone voted
You say Californians are smart people. Okay, then why are you saying that they were lied to and were swayed into voting "yes" on Prop. 8? Come on. You're "too smart" for that....
Stop plaguing the Mormon Church with threats. They've done nothing wrong. The people donated to a cause they believed in. The Mormon Church made NO ads about this, the Prop. 8 supporters did. The Church even asked protesters to stop and they did.
Geez. Stop being so rude. I thought you guys were better than that.
do you LIVE in California? I'm guessing not since you didn't SEE the commercials that lied to Californians about what is taught in our school system. You did not HEAR the radio advertisements using children to win a vote....You judge californians by what YOU have heard, what is so different in Californians trusting what THEY hear....I am not and will not blame the morman church...but you need to get your facts straight...my friend.
Do you HAVE an open mind? I'm guessing not, since you didn't even pay attention to the blatant attacks on the Mormon Church that were run.
Hey, I'm judging you Californians to be smart people. I doubt that you could have been swayed to vote yes by some commercial you disagree with. Geez. It was a compliment.
Don't assume I haven't been following this and that I don't know anything just because I wasn't there.
Also: don't call me your friend. Frankly, I think you're an ass.
Blacks came out in force to elect Obama and to vote in Prop 8. The oppressed have now become the oppressors. How quickly the black community has forgotten the arguments used to prevent interracial marriage in this country just a few decades ago. Many of them the same arguments used to deny gays the civil right to a civil marriage ceremony in CA. Shame on them and their narrow-minded and bigoted stand. Blacks in this country should know better.
I don't know who marked your comment as spam, but apparently they don't realize that the majority of the people who voted for prop 8 agree with you and your opinion. It's practices like silencing people for what they believe that scare me.
Whether I voted for the prop or not, it is over and the yes vote won.
I think it was better to not bring attention to any beatings that may have occurred. Look at the overall tone of this segment, it was very beneficial to the homosexual community and this battle they are fighting. I think it was handled perfectly.
What kind of church actively pays people to lie in television commercials and political campaigns? The IRS should strip the Mormon Church of their nonprofit status because of the millions they pumped into this political movement.
Sometimes they are gay couples in Dallas, Texas which I saw on the TV show Cheaters and live in person. But all I am saying is it doesn't matter where you live because they would always be gay marriage almost in every state even in popular cities such as Dallas, TX, Los Angeles, CA, Las Vegas, NV, and maybe Phoenix, AZ.
DJTechWizard 1 year ago
I want all you christians who thing being gay is wrong to wach the true film, Prayers for bobby, u can wach it on Youtube just type in Prayers for bobby in youtube its based on a true story. I hope that can give you a beter understanding
ian789001 2 years ago
Unfortionatly Prop 8 is only the beginning, its passed now yes but I can garuntee it wont last, this is only the begining
ian789001 2 years ago
Think again. You're on the losing end. Better get used to it, 'cause 2010 will change everything in California.
You won this round. Round two will be ours. The Mormons won't matter anymore, the people will be on our side.
Just take a deep breath, then try to get used to it.
riotcunt86 2 years ago
Religion today cant seem to exist without hating someone or something. What happened to Love and the care of your brother, feeding the hungry and clothing the poor. Love seems to be only for themselves. Christianity in America has been warped into a self righteous body of small mindedness and hate for anything outside their own narrow belief. Jesus himself would not recognize Christianity today. It ALL a travesty.
MasterMark123 3 years ago
Could you please learn how to spell and construct coherent thoughts before commenting?
Ferreita 3 years ago
hell yeah!! im glad theyre still fighting it
the taught in schools thing is NOT TRUE its propaganda crap. this comes down to homophobia and its wrong. NO ON 8!!!!
arilalala58 3 years ago
Read Revelation 22:10-12
We won't be able to keep Christian morals in this country for too long. It's sad, but gay marriage will pass. God knows this. He will come when everything is immoral. We can't stop it, so be ready. Christians, affirm your faith.
NovaCoveSki 3 years ago
This country wasn't built on Christianity. It was built on DEISM. The man who wrote our CONSTITUTION was an Episcopalian and DEIST.
There is a separation of church and state and freedom of religion for a reason. Keep your God out of everyone else's lives. If you were really devout in your religion, I'd think you'd be helping someone in need rather than trying to take away the rights of your fellow humans.
DORKx101 3 years ago
Your history is skewed. I won't hold that against you. I think you'll find that congress has spent federal moneys on forwarding the gospel of Jesus Christ. And the seperation of church and state is where in the constitution?
donotresussitate 3 years ago
perhaps you might want to take the time and actually READ the constitution yourself. You will find that "your" history is skewed. Where has congress spent federal money of forwarding the gospel ????? THIS is what the Religious fanatics do best ... simply make things up to support their agenda and pass it off as fact. It all falls apart when put up to ANY scrutiny .
MasterMark123 3 years ago
$375,000 of tax money going to Camp Barnabas, a summer camp in Purdy, MO. Its webite proclaims that all volunteers working there should be "ready to help us spread the good news of the Gospel of Jesus Christ to all campers that come through our gates."
$282,000 to the World Impact Youth Program: "A Christian missions organization seeking to present Christ to the unchurched through all of our ministries."
donotresussitate 3 years ago
Thats because they don't really believe in Christ and what he stood for .. They are just the KKK hiding behind religion now days. They get the Free religious pass this way. pretty smart for a bunch of rednecks eh
MasterMark123 3 years ago
oh my god. i love you. for the bottom response and this one - it's so true. christianity is just a way to impose their fake morality on people.
DORKx101 3 years ago
thanks DORKx101
MasterMark123 3 years ago
$595,000 of tax money going to Morning Star Ranch in Florence, KS. The ranch offers a Christian leadership training program that includes Bible studies and devotions. It also operates camps for children, the goals of which are described as "relationship building, evangelism, spirital growth and wholesome fun." The ranch's operators say its facilities are "made available to all followers of Christ."
donotresussitate 3 years ago
separation of church and state
acordian 3 years ago
Is it possible for you to turn around and see your own belief as being immoral as a Christian ? You place yourself before Gods plan. Gays were also created by HIM.. stop messing with his plans and Speaking for HIM. Be more Christ like in your religion that reports to follow his word..
MasterMark123 3 years ago
God did not create gays. Being gay is not an identity- it's a behavior/ sin. God created man in his own image and gave him a free will. I have one and so do you. It's all in what you do with it. The fact is we are all guilty of sin and someone guilty of sodomy is guilty same as a liar or a lover of self. James 2:10 says we are guilty of all if we commit just one sin. So, I don't put myself before God's plan nor do I put myself before you. Don't presume to know what I think or what I know!
donotresussitate 3 years ago
donotresussitate,
God DID create homosexuality. If you look at Genesis, after God created Adam, HE made all the animals, but none was found to be a suitable helpmate so he made Eve. Since homosexuality is found in thousands of animal species, technically it existed BEFORE heterosexuality, and before God created Eve. Oh, and if we all have free will and I'm gay because of my "choice", then the only reason you aren't is because you resist all your desires to screw other men then, right?
chrisehogan 3 years ago
If you look at genisis it says that god judged all flesh because it had corrupted itself. God told the animals to be fruitful and multiply. I doubt that you can show gay sex took place prior to straight sex. It is true that you can freely choose to sin against God. You seem to have the problem of not seeing your sin as sin as God does. Therefore you can't seem to want to turn from it. Instead, you make up all these ideas about how your particular behavior is fine; how your beliefs are valid.
donotresussitate 3 years ago
Long term homosexual relationships occur naturally in baboons, dolphins and certian monkeys. Not just one time incidents, but long term partnerships (in the wild as well as captivity). Homosexuality is naturally occuring. I wonder if animals have free will or the ability to sin?
fntsywlkr 3 years ago
Can you read or only write? I already said that the Bible says that ALL flesh has corrupted itself. About natural occurences- The Bible says that the NATURAL man receiveth not the things of the spirit because they are spiritually discerned. You are trying to discern without the spirit of truth. The Bible says there would be those who are ever learning but never come to the know the truth. Why do you care to tell me these amazing facts? Is this a debate?
donotresussitate 3 years ago
how is this becoming a church and state arguement? Thats just straight up in - humane! a pee pee in a bumm bum? Sick! aside frm religion.. thats just sick!
mikeywells92 3 years ago
LOL mikeywells LOL Damn right!!!
meinside99 3 years ago
YES ON 8
MACCAPONE60 3 years ago
mikeywells sounds like an absolute moron ABSOLUTELY NO ON 8 straight people straight poeple engage in anal sex too soo do you think they are perverts too?
Cinepet 3 years ago
prop 8 shouldn't have passed! This sucks! LOVE IS LOVE!
tutanktunak 3 years ago 4
What are conservatives so afraid of anyway? That you're kid is going to go to school and learn that two people of the same sex can actually like each other, fall in love and get married? Really is that what they are trying to hide? Trying to live by the good book? News flash THEY'RE GOING TO KNOW ABOUT IT EITHER WAY. Especially if they live in California. As a parent you're going to have to explain to your kid one way or another about gay couples. They'll see it in public and they'll ask ?'s
mikeoley 3 years ago 7
There's no grey area here, it's pretty black and white and it's wrong that Prop 8 passed. I don't care what anybody says. It's a shame that we take such a giant leap forward with the election of Obama and then two steps back with this nonsense.
If these people have less rights then the regular us citizen and can't get married then they shouldn't have to do regular us citizen things like say uhhhhh.... pay taxes. Yea why not right? This prop was a joke. A complete joke. It'll be revoked soon.
mikeoley 3 years ago 2
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I dont promote bestiality, or rape, or incest then why would I promote another sick and perverted view of affection? Ive never been taught that rape is alright then why is homosexuality? Oh yeah stop pushin your gayness on us just as much as we, push our religion on you, youre pushin you shit on us we dont have STAIGHT MARCHES but here are you gays go, parading around, announcing how GAY you are!! Why do that? You lost. We won. As long as there are Christians, well always win.
66oct 3 years ago
Equality For all
BECAUSE WE CAN
BECAUSE WE ARE ONLY HUMAN AFTER ALL
hotstuff2286 3 years ago
BECAUSE WE CAN
hotstuff2286 3 years ago
What do they plan on accomplishing? They need to go home and get on with their lives. This is not how the system works.
donotresussitate 3 years ago
Actually, it is. The constitution was set out to protect the minority from the majority.
DORKx101 3 years ago
Protect the minority from the majority? The truth is to protect the rights of the states from the tyranny of the rich minority. You are making no point anyway. They voted- the homos lost. If they'd won, I'd say "that's how the system works." But not you. It only works when you get your way. If you don't, it's unfair, unconstitutional, unchristian or something.
donotresussitate 3 years ago
i must say thats an excellent argument :). but the state was bribed, and that makes them the rish majority.
tofylennox 3 years ago
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YES ON 8 ALL DAY CALIFORNIA DID A GREATT JOB.
I AM A PROUD ASS HOLE GET IT RIGHT GAY IS NOT A CHOICE IT'S WHAT YOUR SICC MIND MAKE YOU THINK THAT and i am tried of people saying they where born gay so you saying god made in perfect people i don't think so.... CONGRADULATIONS ON THE PEOPLE WHO CAME OUT AND VOTE THE RIGHT WAY WHICH WAS yes on 8 and i mean that.one man and one woman let god plan it.. I KNOW YOU GOING TO LASH OUT ON MY COMMENTS SO WHAT I DON'T CARE
MACCAPONE60 3 years ago 3
bitch, save ur hate 4 someone who gives a fuck what homophobes think =] snap snap.
tofylennox 3 years ago 3
THANKS YOU FOR PASSING THIS LAW GOOD JOB AGAIN AMERICA I AM PROUD TO SEE A AMERICAN ALL DAY LIKE I SAID BEFORE yes on 8 yes on 8 fags
MACCAPONE60 3 years ago
intolerant gays go away
djpoppy1 3 years ago
So, today we heard on the news that a guy got attacked for saying yes on 8 at one of these protests.. your attacking people who dont think the way you do?? what are they trying to accomplish? people voted yes! you cant just annoy and attack people and expect them to agree with you. knock it off- your making yourself look stupid no reason for violence cuz you dont like how someone voted
heathero1022 3 years ago 3
Civil marriage is not the same as marriage. Civil marriage is LESS rights than marriage. Do your research lady.
strangeseraph 3 years ago 2
You say Californians are smart people. Okay, then why are you saying that they were lied to and were swayed into voting "yes" on Prop. 8? Come on. You're "too smart" for that....
Stop plaguing the Mormon Church with threats. They've done nothing wrong. The people donated to a cause they believed in. The Mormon Church made NO ads about this, the Prop. 8 supporters did. The Church even asked protesters to stop and they did.
Geez. Stop being so rude. I thought you guys were better than that.
mschmitz31 3 years ago
do you LIVE in California? I'm guessing not since you didn't SEE the commercials that lied to Californians about what is taught in our school system. You did not HEAR the radio advertisements using children to win a vote....You judge californians by what YOU have heard, what is so different in Californians trusting what THEY hear....I am not and will not blame the morman church...but you need to get your facts straight...my friend.
mikeoley 3 years ago
I live in california, and haven't seen a single liberal proposition that isnt nothing but a bunch of lies.
grabyourgat 3 years ago
Do you HAVE an open mind? I'm guessing not, since you didn't even pay attention to the blatant attacks on the Mormon Church that were run.
Hey, I'm judging you Californians to be smart people. I doubt that you could have been swayed to vote yes by some commercial you disagree with. Geez. It was a compliment.
Don't assume I haven't been following this and that I don't know anything just because I wasn't there.
Also: don't call me your friend. Frankly, I think you're an ass.
mschmitz31 3 years ago
Hey, yeah with friends like you who needs enemies. Bwa ha.
All I can tell you is seperate church and state.
johncross0909 3 years ago
Blacks came out in force to elect Obama and to vote in Prop 8. The oppressed have now become the oppressors. How quickly the black community has forgotten the arguments used to prevent interracial marriage in this country just a few decades ago. Many of them the same arguments used to deny gays the civil right to a civil marriage ceremony in CA. Shame on them and their narrow-minded and bigoted stand. Blacks in this country should know better.
wafuuwafuu 3 years ago 6
i agree!
pbmax1980 3 years ago
I thought Democrats embraced the black vote. Now, they're slandering them.
StoogeWatcher 3 years ago
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uafireman 3 years ago
shutup asshole
pbmax1980 3 years ago
No, you shut up, fascist. That's the problem with the heterophobic bigots.
StoogeWatcher 3 years ago
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Homosexuality is just plain sick and wrong!!!
The people have voted. Now let it go!!!
If you continue to try to push this sick homosexual agenda in our face. You are nothing but societal sexual predators and should be treated as such.
enyalid 3 years ago
I don't know who marked your comment as spam, but apparently they don't realize that the majority of the people who voted for prop 8 agree with you and your opinion. It's practices like silencing people for what they believe that scare me.
Whether I voted for the prop or not, it is over and the yes vote won.
joshisthebestwooha20 3 years ago
I think it was better to not bring attention to any beatings that may have occurred. Look at the overall tone of this segment, it was very beneficial to the homosexual community and this battle they are fighting. I think it was handled perfectly.
sevendash 3 years ago 2
What the media won't tell you is that some gay protesters were beaten by police with batons. The fact that no rioting has taken place is amazing.
omgCoreyLynxx 3 years ago
Yeah... sad times we live in.
ItsAlexChristopher 3 years ago
What kind of church actively pays people to lie in television commercials and political campaigns? The IRS should strip the Mormon Church of their nonprofit status because of the millions they pumped into this political movement.
bookwrm1 3 years ago 2