Amateur piano tuning tutorial

[ZiggyLazer]

some strong coffee, karo kaffee!

[danielbarley]

Your in the wrong job

[CharmedQuarkZ99]

I use long felt strip mutes and most all outside strings of tri-chord are muted, then set a C fork, then set temperament using 4th and 5th mostly and use 3rds and 6ths and 8va for check. Many dont realize that aural tuning is best as each piano has a slightly different inharmonicity factor. Nice informative video. I was taught in school the 'key' was called a 'tuning hammer' as in old times it was used to hammer loose pins.

[popiriki77]

wonderful the korg will do a nice shit even with a far more sophisticated software you must be a tuner to enter the right parameters for tuning your piano so take the risk of break your piano?

[popiriki77]

that's true and this is why horowitz rubinstein herbie hancock lang lang needs professionals piano tuners for there concerts because you will never never be able to understand what we are doing .you need at least to tune 7 pianos a day during 10 years to start being a good tuner so make some maths and later you can go home and this is only for tuning

[popiriki77]

poor boy he don't even know what will happen to his poor piano....go back to a tuner school!!!!!!!!

[olliebobs99]

Surely being a piano tuner makes easy money, if you don't want to work full-time.

[firishman]

you creep me out

[belmontleo]

Dude, after 30 seconds, I believe you are actually a plumber!

[jmalinow]

WTF are you on drugs, dude?

[eagleseye12]

At best, quite amusing.

[R3INCARNATION]

Hello friend. I wrote you some time ago. You should make some more videos with crazy things. It´s been fun and was a great help for tunning my piano as I told you before. Thanx. But, make more videooooooooossssssss please! :D

[surrealsound]

how much does a piano string cost? how long do all the strings of a piano last?

[pianoorganman]

Normally 10-20 Bucks & they last just about forever in some cases

[R3INCARNATION]

I like this video :D Makes it easy andmakes yu belive you can tune your piano without fear. His voice is calm and makes you feel you can do it. The only thing you need is a tunner, the tune key and a good ear. Thanks for this video. It´s cool the way you videoded you jeje.

[detubator]

Annoying.

[SlightlyBitch]

he's mental ?

[SlightlyBitch]

i wouldnt risk a +$3500 piano just to save $120. god... u only tune it ONCE ayear anyways

[toneringer]

I am a professional piano technician. Please never tune your own piano! Especially dont use door stops as mutes! I have seen some real abortions of home piano service and it only costs more to fix!!! It is worth the $90.

[arg13415]

That's rediculous. I've tuned my own and all of my friend's pianos twice a year for years. There is absolutely no reason why you can't learn to tune your own piano.

[lugia660]

it's very risky for people who don't know what you're doing. I'm not saying you don't know, but there is always a chance that you will get seriously injured (A deep laceration on the face, for example). Remember, some strings are under 30 tons of pressure. Also, each piano is different. My strings are 50+ years old, brittle, a half-step lower than they should be, but haven't broken. But the tuner said to never tune them up because they will break.

[arg13415]

Piano strings break, it happens all the time to tuners. There are plenty of tutorials on how to do a full repair or a wire splice. Piano wire is very very stiff, so it is unlikely that it will hit you when it breaks.

It is unlikely that your piano is tuned down because of a risk of the strings breaking. It is more likely that the piano was left too long without being tuned, and your piano tuner doesn't want to take the 8 hours to do a proper pitch raise.

[lugia660]

not true. You misunderstood. My piano is not purposefully tuned down. The pegs don't hold the pitch as well as they used to, so the pitch simply does not stay up anymore in addition to the fact that they will likely break. In order to get it fixed it will cost up to $2,000 to replace all of the strings. Few tuners also know the type of piano we have because it's over 100 years old.

We've tuned it constantly since we've got it.

[yak55x]

you're not right dude. sorry. Please see a doctor.

[x3AngelDeFeux3]

omg

[KyleB1988]

good advice

[waalesk]

funny guy!

[buyatribe]

can you marry me...your tuning video is hilarious...it was so great I watched all of it..yes the whole ten minutes of it...you rock my socks...

[Tariq093]

weirdo

[bigstU25]

WTF is wrong with this guy?

[bigstU25]

who the fuck is ever in this video! if its you man you are seriously a fuckin nut case..lol!

[chelseythebagel]

Haha I like that he just zoomed in on his eye...

Thanks. I just shadowed a tuner so I could learn how. Just reviewing! :)

[knumberd]

ive got a motif es6 keyboard , im gonna try and tune it up to that

[knumberd]

coolest freakin piano tuning vid ive seen so far!!! good shyit

[freakyhead20]

kinda creepy video anyway I use a lint when I tune a upright/grand piano..A-a-e-e-b-f#-f-c#-g#-g#­-eflat-eflat-bflat-f-f-c-g-g-d­-a

:)

[kuernodechivo]

Whoa... I'm not sure what to think about that.

[damiandmn]

Sometimes when you are tuning and the sound change a little a first but after dont change is because the string is close to break by itself

[dottoreguzmanrulz]

crazy and a little creepy

[mamamcqueen]

WTF?

[XxXxClooneyxXxX]

i have tht clock... it exacly th same...

[SidewalkFrequencies]

get some therapy!!

[iPikee]

U SUCK

[tiroirdelmare]

oh, I'm shocked!

[lakshmiwynter]

i wouldnt let him tune my frreakin radio let alone my yam

[SteinbachPlayer]

WHAT THE?

[GaryF300]

teaching one to tune a piano? You may as claim you are trying to teach someone Brain Surgery!

[mcgiver02]

Tuning pianos is FAR LESS complex and involved than brain surgery. You can learn the principles of piano tuning from ONE book. For example J. Cree Fischer or Don Affleck.

[ahlan3g]

Hey, how's Kabul back home ?

[CarroT0P]

LOL at 2:00.

[metalfreak13]

obviously 1 of the more unorthadox tutorials but helpful.

[nickcage63]

don't smoke dope when you show somebody something

[sydstranda]

to answer your question, we cannot use 12 tuning forks because the relationship between the pitches is slightly different for every piano. also, not all tuners use an "a" tuning fork, many start with a "c" fork.

[tiroirdelmare]

many thanks for answering this question! Does this also mean that tuning machines are wrong, or do they "understand" for each piano how the relationship differs?

[Brucemusical]

The really good electronic tuning devices, or ETDs, are calibrated to "hear" the variations within each piano in order to provide the best tuning for that piano. They are not just fixed pitches like a tuning fork would be. I thought the video was somewhat humorous. I am a piano tuner who tunes aurally with a A fork.

[ahlan3g]

it's smart to store, as suggested, 12 mp3 files of an EQUAL TEMPERAMENT of the middle octave.

Then tune the piano to those files.

Then tune ALL other notes by octaves.

That is tune A5 to A4, A6 to A5 etc

[CharmedQuarkZ99]

Inharmonicity factor. After temperament is set I tune 8va beatless up and down. A strobe would measure them as 'sharp' or 'flat'. I use a C fork because I can hear the beats in the 4ths and 5ths easier. Tuning machines are OK if you know how to calibrate for each piano.

[BornAgain2989]

i still love this video :) i like how you look pretty stressed around 4:40 lol. My piano is very old, i inherited from my grandmother (it was her mothers) and the intonation is pretty bad, there are also a few dead notes but they are tempramental..its a shame. i mainly use a digital piano now, saves a lot of money (tuning and what not)

[helmsmusic]

Trust me, it's worth $200/yr to have a pro maintain your piano. The reason you can't use 12 tuning forks is that each piano is tuned according to the length and thickness of each string (which varies from piano to piano) and the resulting variation in the overtones. That's why it won't work to tune your piano to a keyboard -- it doesn't have the same overtones as the piano. Should YOU take piano tuning advice from somebody who doesn't understand tuning theory and uses doorstops as tuning tools?

[tiroirdelmare]

Thanks for stressing this is an Amateur Piano Tuning Tutorial.

But rest assured, most users will understand this is a joke ;)

[ahlan3g]

you are absolutely right to say not TWELVE (12) forks are needed. Indeed, once you have set A4 at an arbitray frequence, say, 430 hz, then ALL other notes ( in the middle octave ) would be calibrated by a Korg electronic tuner. Then you can tune individual notes, the Korg will tell you when they are in tune, flat or sharp.

[helmsmusic]

You're close but not quite - it's not arbitrary, the international pitch standard for A4 is 440 Hz. Also, you can't get a good tuning with a Korg tuner. Those tuners are not nearly sophisticated enough to tune a piano because of something called inharmonicity, which is only present in pianos and which means that every piano is tuned differently according to its inharmonicity. Only a tuning software program that's designed for piano tuningcan handle tuning a piano.

[ahlan3g]

What is inharmonicity ?

How come a Korg can't hear what an

experienced tuner can ?

[superwesman]

the issue is that a piano isn't tuned with every A (and all other notes) being exactly one octave apart - the shorter strings are tuned sharp and the longer strings are tuned flat - it's by a small amount, but it's not exact - look up temperment (and piano tuning) on wikipedia - you'll get lots of information

[stixx2000]

I remember hearing something about this in school. They had different pianos tuned to different tunings, mean tone tuning and whatever else. I think the intervals we use aren't exact. It's kind of weird but I know some of tunings sounded a little off but were just different tunings having been accustomed to a different sound.

[R3INCARNATION]

Another way to tune the piano is having aside a Keyboard. I have a Roland and an Ensoniq. I put on my headphones and then I play one tune, whatever. And then I use the key tune of the piano :D It´s great because you can compare both sounds. The correct one of the keyboard, and the piano as well :D It´s great, and you can tune it perfectly. Not just comparing with any of the pitch of the strings of the piano. Because the keyboard has the pure tone :D Good luck pianists :D

R3

[alelamayor2]

Why don't you record all the process? I'm learning tune pianos by my own since my piano tuner leave my piano so tune that sounds awfull!!I wonder if you can help me.

[tiroirdelmare]

Hmmm, ok but I'll need some time.

[c0string]

It's alot easier to lay the bearing yourself, I'm a piano technician, I've been trained by Steinway's chief technician, I've tried the MP3 thing, and it's easier to lay bearings yourself, by a fork.

Maybe you'd conciter making a video about regulation it's alot more important than what most people think.

[almighty123]

how much does it cost to tune an upright piano?

[marthymel]

Not sure what it costs in the States. In Europe you usually (depending on the country/region) can find a professional tuner starting from roughly 50€ or 60€

[awatkins69]

That was pretty trippy. I wouldn't mind watching it on acid. Good though.

[tiroirdelmare]

"Player" is the right word yes.

[BankFace]

I wish I could tune my piano and save $200/yr. lol

[adjustments]

shrooms?

[dicom]

Although I don't play the piano or even own one, I found this video strangely interesting.

[tiroirdelmare]

You can make them with a test tone generating software.

If you want I can send put them online somewhere and send you the URL

[ganadvalvas]

Where can I find these mp3s?