@naddogg89 I know ^ i thought i was the only one to notice... lol its kinda cool/funny .. i like that style. I was watching this Eid al-Fitr khutbah I believe by him.. a recent one... he gives it on a podium, and then as SOON as he said his last word (it was a duaa in Arabic or something) he's zooming off in that thougtful, fixated way... ;D
:D i see someone else sees it the same way i see it....Stop with the Debates about which sect is the best...stop arguing over semantics...and lets be Muslim all of us together lets put aside the details and get down to core of our faith... Allah(swt) and his oneness and servitude and leading by example of righteousness and piety for the whole world...now fighting amongst ourselves about semantics
So sad that scholars like Hamzah are accused by the so called fake salafist and Wahabists as kafir. We Muslims are so closed minded now that we have to rely on opinions of others and follow them to the extreme that we would considered those who are not in agreement with our opinion as untworthy muslims. So sad. Now the enemies of Islam will be so happy to know that they dont have to instill enmity among Muslim and shoot them with bullets when they see Muslims are destroying themselves.
Lets stop the debates!! Kill all muslim sick retarded mother fucking, shit smelling, pedo worshipping, dirty, brain dead, dress wearing pieces of shit!! I despise all radical muslim bastards!! I want them all dead!! NOW!!!!
The only way we can put aside our differences and work together is to stop debating and dividing among ourselves! You can have a dialogue but a debate is worthless. Every creed has its negative and positive aspects. Saying I'm right and you're wrong doesn't work. Such a thing never existed in Islam. There has always been diversity in practices among the people in Islam.
We need to just agree to disagree on our aqeeda and practices and work together as a single ummah. May the best dawah win.
I agree with him that we need to cooperate and become a collective force, but I disagree with him on how we should avoid debates relating to 'belief'. Is anyone here willing to live a lie?
@RefutingActs17 The shia vs. sunni, salafi vs. sufi debates have been going on for centuries and will continue to go on till the end of time. We can not resolve them. The only thing we'll end up doing is wasting our time and increasing our sins by back biting, slandering and saying harsh things to one another which will only lead to polarization of the muslim communities.
The best way to resolve these debates is to just agree to disagree. As HY said, May the best dawah win!
Agreed. But then you're also guilty of insinuating that Islam is so heavily diluted with sectarianism that 'Absolute Truth' doesn't stand out from the rest. And yes - of course you can resolve them, it SHOULD be as plain as daylight. It just depends on how willing you are to be taken in on what you believe.
Who said there should be backbiting involved? Can't we still act as a cohesive force in spite of our differences? My two best friends are Sufis, and never spoke ill of them.
@RefutingActs17 Well, some things aren't plain as daylight though! There are many different ways what's in the Quran and Hadith can be interpreted and this is where the differences come from. Especially in the case of the sufi vs. salafi debate. This is something that just can not be resolved. And if you look at it, they're just two different paths in Islam.
I have seen many times such debates just end up in bickering, back biting, slandering etc. Especially over the internet.
Based on retrospective historical studies of certain Hadiths - yes they can be interpreted differently, but as for the Qur'an and the early scholars of Islam I'm not too sure about that.
-> Furthermore, are you willing to admit that there are variants of Islam? That's a scary thought for me. I'll leave the 'debate' here, because I'm not knowledgeable about Islam at all. As far as I know - there's the Siraqtul Mustaqeem - the straight path, a non-divisible path. ;)
@RefutingActs17 I didn't say variants of Islam. I said diversity in the way Islam is practiced and followed. For example the salafis emphasize on following the sunnah and not deviating from what the prophet and his companions practiced. The sufis on the other hand follow a long tradition of sufis who spent their entire lives in the devotion and praise of Allah and the prophet. They emphasize on spirituality and taking awe in the beauty of Allah.
Takbeeeer. There are no sects in Islam. There is worshipping Allah alone with no partners, no worship of the dead, no worship of divine imams. That is Islam.
Islam begins with knowing Allah. Knowing his rights and our obligations. If anybody decides to say grave worship is ok, debate until the grave for that is a form of major shirk.
@darklight254 Never hear any scholar say worshiping the dead is fine either. They sure praise the prophet and the saints. Nothing wrong with that now?
I agree there is nothing wrong with praising the prophet sws. But sadly there are some deviant ignorant groups like the shia who worship the dead. Shia's travel to Samarra to worship at the tombs of Ali al-Hadi and al-Hasan al-Askari on their pilgrimage. Hamza Yusuf is a Sufi, and in his institute they read from Burda poem, where they worship the prophet sws.
Yes, I agree he does worship Allah, but sadly in his institute, they recite a poem where they give the rights of Allah to the prophet sws. It is called the burda poem, and although I agree with the general message of this video, Muslims still need to be aware that not every sheikh is a reliable sheikh.
are you talking about the Qasida Burda then there is no shirk in it - there is only shirk if someone INTENTIONALLY Joins partners with Allah swt or worships other then Allah swt - The poem is just a poem which praises the prophet Muhammad pbuh - the last of the prophets and the best of creation.
@darklight254 you people are really fools. Muslims should also be aware of Wannabe Scholars giving there own Fatwas on noble and intelligent scholars like Hamza yusuf.
a. hamzah y. has said openly he is a sufi...whether he practices the full essence of sufism, which involves a lot of shirk, is besides the point that he is calling people to it.
b. BURDA. I repeat BURDAH! It is a shirk filled poem, giving the rights of Allah to the prophets sws. Openly read and preached in his institute.
I can give more, but for those who are sincere, b. is enough.
This is not a fiqh error, or human error. It is major shirk!
please, I am not giving my own fatwas as you claim. I can refer you to a link sh bin baaz who refuted the poem. Throughout history every scholar upon tawheed has refuted the poem.
Steven Hawking could also be considered intelligent, but do you follow him in his atheism. As intelligent H.Y. may be still, are you going to abandon tawheed to follow him in his mistake. Sure he is prominent and does good, but sincerely I tell you he is not one who has correct understanding of tawheed.
''but sincerely I tell you he is not one who has correct understanding of tawheed.''
And who have you studied with? Whats your knowledge in Arabic grammar,rhetoric ,logic and so on? Sorry but who are you to tell people that shaykh Hamza Yusuf doesnt have a correct understanding of tawheed??? Whats your background? Seriously ,people need to stop with all this crap.
Ok its been 4 months since the original comment, and if I could just clarify, I respect Hamza Yusuf, for the positive works he has done for Islam, and his role in dawah and academic Islamic work. However, this does not make a person perfect. There are YouTube videos of him reading the burdah poem which negates tawheed.
The Qasida Burda is not shirk, that's been dealt with a trillion times by now. It doesn't negate tawheed as well, not a single line of it. Its a poem which expresses the love for the Prophet peace be upon him, not shirk....
"O noblest of creation, I have no one but you to turn to except you when major calamity strikes." - referring to Muhammed sws.
This is giving the right's of Allah to the prophet sws, (ie shirk).
If you want to kid yourself into thinking this poem is acceptable, and those who agree with the poem by reciting it are reliable, then that is between you and Allah, but if anyone is sincere, then beware of this shirk.
oh my, look, there's certain pre requisites you need before attempting to even criticise a text. Like shaykh Hamza Yusuf says on his blog, in traditional Islam for a debate one needed to master grammar, rhetoric and a branch of logic. And in reading there are 4 levels before one even begins to attempt to criticise a piece, read his excellent blog about the subtleties of language, sandala(.)org/blog/2011/03/26/the-importance-of-being-ambiguous-or-the-sin-tax-of-ignoring-syntax/
None of those are my words, but it makes it clearer. One needs to really study and learn things like that before making some haphazard judgement, or ask the people that know.
''The Qasida Burda has been accepted by the mainstream of Islamic scholarship as one of the greatest statements of love for the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him)....There are dozens of commentaries on it, by many of the greatest scholars of Islam, none of whom saw any “blatant shirk” in its beautiful praise of the Beloved Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him).
''given its eloquence and depth, certain verses-such as those criticized by our respected critic-need to be understood as the author meant them. It is unfair to interpret others’ words in ways they did not mean.''
And no, its not about being sincere, and if it is, its being sincere about not trying to understand what you think you understand.
As for the verse you posted of the Burda, the calamity is referring to the day of judgement. Authentic hadiths say--
Authentic hadiths say all of creation will go from one prophet to another, and each of them is busy with themselves out of awe of Allah and tells them to go to another prophet. Finally, all of creation goes to our Prophet peace be upon him, seeking refuge from the tribulation and distress of that day. The Prophet answers their call, affirming that this is from what Allah granted him, and turns to Allah seeking respite for creation, and this is granted to him by Allah.
-and that on that Day all creation will find none in creation to turn to for assistance but Allah’s Beloved (Allah bless him and give him peace).
This also shows that seeking the assistance of creation-whether in material or spiritual matters-does in no way negate one’s understanding that Allah alone is the ultimate granter.
his is the aqida of the mainstream of Muslims: we affirm the taking of material and spiritual means, and affirm that the granter is only Allah Himself.
There is no suggestion in this verse that a believer shouldn’t turn to Allah Himself when distress and problems occur. Rather, it is simply affirming something the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) affirmed: that Allah has granted His Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) general intercession for all creation from the intensity of the tribulations of the Day of Judgment, and that on that Day all creation will find none in creation to --
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good man! lots of respect!!!!!
halakukhan 4 months ago
did anyone else notice that whenever sheikh Hamza finishes his talks he walks of super fast? 1:00 lol
naddogg89 5 months ago
@naddogg89 I know ^ i thought i was the only one to notice... lol its kinda cool/funny .. i like that style. I was watching this Eid al-Fitr khutbah I believe by him.. a recent one... he gives it on a podium, and then as SOON as he said his last word (it was a duaa in Arabic or something) he's zooming off in that thougtful, fixated way... ;D
abdelbaasit1 1 month ago
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naddogg89 5 months ago
Mashallah.
Maturidi333 6 months ago
he needs to shut up!!
jihad68 10 months ago
:D i see someone else sees it the same way i see it....Stop with the Debates about which sect is the best...stop arguing over semantics...and lets be Muslim all of us together lets put aside the details and get down to core of our faith... Allah(swt) and his oneness and servitude and leading by example of righteousness and piety for the whole world...now fighting amongst ourselves about semantics
BigDJuggalo420 10 months ago
So sad that scholars like Hamzah are accused by the so called fake salafist and Wahabists as kafir. We Muslims are so closed minded now that we have to rely on opinions of others and follow them to the extreme that we would considered those who are not in agreement with our opinion as untworthy muslims. So sad. Now the enemies of Islam will be so happy to know that they dont have to instill enmity among Muslim and shoot them with bullets when they see Muslims are destroying themselves.
zatoichiable 11 months ago
masha Allah!
28happilyeverafter24 11 months ago
Lets stop the debates!! Kill all muslim sick retarded mother fucking, shit smelling, pedo worshipping, dirty, brain dead, dress wearing pieces of shit!! I despise all radical muslim bastards!! I want them all dead!! NOW!!!!
coltsuperocean10 1 year ago
@coltsuperocean10 you sick son of a bitch.
1spiders1 1 year ago
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@1spiders1 ...what did I say?
coltsuperocean10 1 year ago
The only way we can put aside our differences and work together is to stop debating and dividing among ourselves! You can have a dialogue but a debate is worthless. Every creed has its negative and positive aspects. Saying I'm right and you're wrong doesn't work. Such a thing never existed in Islam. There has always been diversity in practices among the people in Islam.
We need to just agree to disagree on our aqeeda and practices and work together as a single ummah. May the best dawah win.
afthefragile 1 year ago
Forgot to thumb-up this video. Yes, lucky number 35!!!
RefutingActs17 1 year ago
I agree with him that we need to cooperate and become a collective force, but I disagree with him on how we should avoid debates relating to 'belief'. Is anyone here willing to live a lie?
RefutingActs17 1 year ago
@RefutingActs17 The shia vs. sunni, salafi vs. sufi debates have been going on for centuries and will continue to go on till the end of time. We can not resolve them. The only thing we'll end up doing is wasting our time and increasing our sins by back biting, slandering and saying harsh things to one another which will only lead to polarization of the muslim communities.
The best way to resolve these debates is to just agree to disagree. As HY said, May the best dawah win!
afthefragile 1 year ago
@afthefragile
Agreed. But then you're also guilty of insinuating that Islam is so heavily diluted with sectarianism that 'Absolute Truth' doesn't stand out from the rest. And yes - of course you can resolve them, it SHOULD be as plain as daylight. It just depends on how willing you are to be taken in on what you believe.
Who said there should be backbiting involved? Can't we still act as a cohesive force in spite of our differences? My two best friends are Sufis, and never spoke ill of them.
RefutingActs17 1 year ago
@RefutingActs17 Well, some things aren't plain as daylight though! There are many different ways what's in the Quran and Hadith can be interpreted and this is where the differences come from. Especially in the case of the sufi vs. salafi debate. This is something that just can not be resolved. And if you look at it, they're just two different paths in Islam.
I have seen many times such debates just end up in bickering, back biting, slandering etc. Especially over the internet.
afthefragile 1 year ago
@afthefragile
Based on retrospective historical studies of certain Hadiths - yes they can be interpreted differently, but as for the Qur'an and the early scholars of Islam I'm not too sure about that.
-> Furthermore, are you willing to admit that there are variants of Islam? That's a scary thought for me. I'll leave the 'debate' here, because I'm not knowledgeable about Islam at all. As far as I know - there's the Siraqtul Mustaqeem - the straight path, a non-divisible path. ;)
RefutingActs17 1 year ago
@RefutingActs17 I didn't say variants of Islam. I said diversity in the way Islam is practiced and followed. For example the salafis emphasize on following the sunnah and not deviating from what the prophet and his companions practiced. The sufis on the other hand follow a long tradition of sufis who spent their entire lives in the devotion and praise of Allah and the prophet. They emphasize on spirituality and taking awe in the beauty of Allah.
Different ways of following Islam. Salam n Peace!
afthefragile 1 year ago
@afthefragile
Ahhh...I want to keep debating! :P
RefutingActs17 1 year ago
@afthefragile
Another day my brother in Islam, another day....:P
RefutingActs17 1 year ago
@RefutingActs17 Its fine. Feel free to send me a message it you wanna talk, discuss about anything.
Basically I'm just repeating what brother Hamza Yusuf said in this talk!
Anyway, Salaam and Peace! :)
afthefragile 1 year ago
Takbeeeer. There are no sects in Islam. There is worshipping Allah alone with no partners, no worship of the dead, no worship of divine imams. That is Islam.
Islam begins with knowing Allah. Knowing his rights and our obligations. If anybody decides to say grave worship is ok, debate until the grave for that is a form of major shirk.
darklight254 1 year ago
@darklight254 I haven't herd anyone saying grave worship is ok. Even the sufi scholars say grave worship is shirk.
afthefragile 1 year ago
@afthefragile
Sorry, worshipping the dead*
They direct their dua to dead people, be it "saints" or the prophet sws, it doesn't make it ok.
Dua is the essence of worship as reported in an authentic hadith (tirmidhi if I remeber correct), so doing dua to the dead is a form of shirk
darklight254 1 year ago
@darklight254 Never hear any scholar say worshiping the dead is fine either. They sure praise the prophet and the saints. Nothing wrong with that now?
afthefragile 1 year ago
@afthefragile
I agree there is nothing wrong with praising the prophet sws. But sadly there are some deviant ignorant groups like the shia who worship the dead. Shia's travel to Samarra to worship at the tombs of Ali al-Hadi and al-Hasan al-Askari on their pilgrimage. Hamza Yusuf is a Sufi, and in his institute they read from Burda poem, where they worship the prophet sws.
darklight254 1 year ago
@darklight254 Bro i don't think they worship. Who worships created things, rather Hamza worships Allah.
Yeppox 1 year ago
@Yeppox
Yes, I agree he does worship Allah, but sadly in his institute, they recite a poem where they give the rights of Allah to the prophet sws. It is called the burda poem, and although I agree with the general message of this video, Muslims still need to be aware that not every sheikh is a reliable sheikh.
darklight254 1 year ago
@darklight254
Salaam
are you talking about the Qasida Burda then there is no shirk in it - there is only shirk if someone INTENTIONALLY Joins partners with Allah swt or worships other then Allah swt - The poem is just a poem which praises the prophet Muhammad pbuh - the last of the prophets and the best of creation.
peace.
zafthedon 1 year ago
@darklight254 you people are really fools. Muslims should also be aware of Wannabe Scholars giving there own Fatwas on noble and intelligent scholars like Hamza yusuf.
funkyfaz55 11 months ago
@funkyfaz55
ok let me clarify the above points:
a. hamzah y. has said openly he is a sufi...whether he practices the full essence of sufism, which involves a lot of shirk, is besides the point that he is calling people to it.
b. BURDA. I repeat BURDAH! It is a shirk filled poem, giving the rights of Allah to the prophets sws. Openly read and preached in his institute.
I can give more, but for those who are sincere, b. is enough.
This is not a fiqh error, or human error. It is major shirk!
darklight254 11 months ago
@funkyfaz55
please, I am not giving my own fatwas as you claim. I can refer you to a link sh bin baaz who refuted the poem. Throughout history every scholar upon tawheed has refuted the poem.
Steven Hawking could also be considered intelligent, but do you follow him in his atheism. As intelligent H.Y. may be still, are you going to abandon tawheed to follow him in his mistake. Sure he is prominent and does good, but sincerely I tell you he is not one who has correct understanding of tawheed.
darklight254 11 months ago
@darklight254
''but sincerely I tell you he is not one who has correct understanding of tawheed.''
And who have you studied with? Whats your knowledge in Arabic grammar,rhetoric ,logic and so on? Sorry but who are you to tell people that shaykh Hamza Yusuf doesnt have a correct understanding of tawheed??? Whats your background? Seriously ,people need to stop with all this crap.
TheKap1an 9 months ago
@TheKap1an
Ok its been 4 months since the original comment, and if I could just clarify, I respect Hamza Yusuf, for the positive works he has done for Islam, and his role in dawah and academic Islamic work. However, this does not make a person perfect. There are YouTube videos of him reading the burdah poem which negates tawheed.
I refer you to this link:
islam-qa(.)com/en/ref/115502/burdah
Delete the brackets from the (.)
darklight254 9 months ago
@darklight254
The Qasida Burda is not shirk, that's been dealt with a trillion times by now. It doesn't negate tawheed as well, not a single line of it. Its a poem which expresses the love for the Prophet peace be upon him, not shirk....
TheKap1an 9 months ago
@TheKap1an
Did you even read the link?
darklight254 9 months ago
@darklight254
Ive seen that one a million times before, like I said, its been refuted, theres no shirk in that poem, just wishful thinking.
TheKap1an 9 months ago
@TheKap1an
"O noblest of creation, I have no one but you to turn to except you when major calamity strikes." - referring to Muhammed sws.
This is giving the right's of Allah to the prophet sws, (ie shirk).
If you want to kid yourself into thinking this poem is acceptable, and those who agree with the poem by reciting it are reliable, then that is between you and Allah, but if anyone is sincere, then beware of this shirk.
darklight254 9 months ago
@darklight254
oh my, look, there's certain pre requisites you need before attempting to even criticise a text. Like shaykh Hamza Yusuf says on his blog, in traditional Islam for a debate one needed to master grammar, rhetoric and a branch of logic. And in reading there are 4 levels before one even begins to attempt to criticise a piece, read his excellent blog about the subtleties of language, sandala(.)org/blog/2011/03/26/the-importance-of-being-ambiguous-or-the-sin-tax-of-ignoring-syntax/
TheKap1an 9 months ago
@darklight254
None of those are my words, but it makes it clearer. One needs to really study and learn things like that before making some haphazard judgement, or ask the people that know.
TheKap1an 9 months ago
@darklight254
''The Qasida Burda has been accepted by the mainstream of Islamic scholarship as one of the greatest statements of love for the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him)....There are dozens of commentaries on it, by many of the greatest scholars of Islam, none of whom saw any “blatant shirk” in its beautiful praise of the Beloved Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him).
TheKap1an 9 months ago
@darklight254
''given its eloquence and depth, certain verses-such as those criticized by our respected critic-need to be understood as the author meant them. It is unfair to interpret others’ words in ways they did not mean.''
And no, its not about being sincere, and if it is, its being sincere about not trying to understand what you think you understand.
As for the verse you posted of the Burda, the calamity is referring to the day of judgement. Authentic hadiths say--
TheKap1an 9 months ago
@darklight254
Authentic hadiths say all of creation will go from one prophet to another, and each of them is busy with themselves out of awe of Allah and tells them to go to another prophet. Finally, all of creation goes to our Prophet peace be upon him, seeking refuge from the tribulation and distress of that day. The Prophet answers their call, affirming that this is from what Allah granted him, and turns to Allah seeking respite for creation, and this is granted to him by Allah.
TheKap1an 9 months ago
@darklight254
-and that on that Day all creation will find none in creation to turn to for assistance but Allah’s Beloved (Allah bless him and give him peace).
This also shows that seeking the assistance of creation-whether in material or spiritual matters-does in no way negate one’s understanding that Allah alone is the ultimate granter.
his is the aqida of the mainstream of Muslims: we affirm the taking of material and spiritual means, and affirm that the granter is only Allah Himself.
TheKap1an 9 months ago
@darklight254
There is no suggestion in this verse that a believer shouldn’t turn to Allah Himself when distress and problems occur. Rather, it is simply affirming something the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) affirmed: that Allah has granted His Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) general intercession for all creation from the intensity of the tribulations of the Day of Judgment, and that on that Day all creation will find none in creation to --
TheKap1an 9 months ago
ALLAH do not divide into sects, buit still the ISLAM divided intoi sects and divided so badly thats y thet deserved ALLAH curse and punishment....
MrRahim62 1 year ago
wow he has aged and looks tired, allah bless him for his hardwork
ask120 1 year ago 7
Let's stop the bickering. May the reasonable debate go on!
IpsaPaphum 1 year ago
Very Good Speaker!!
Drzhivago11 1 year ago 2
Amen!
HanafiTheMC100 2 years ago
DIRECTOR'S CUT,,,,,LOLZZZ
redline2311 2 years ago 15
@redline2311 And some behind the scenes and special effects too I guess :D
saqib09 1 year ago 2