@sharpendintothedark Maybe Paul shouldn't have used the language he did but I'm Irish and proud of Paul as he's got more bottle than 99% of the peleton for speaking the truth even when it's going to make him a figure of hate by people who know little about what really happens inside the peleton. LA 's
Oh Lance pretending that he doesn't know who Paul Kimmage is. I've read Lance's book which is pretty inspiring, but I've read Rough Ride and who do I really believe?
If you read Paul's book (Blood sport) you will see lance in a whole new light, let me tell you, it is all nevative. as for lance's argument mentioning cancer, he was the one who bought up the topic. what paul said about cance was only a small fraction in his book which in context makes sence. Blood sport is a very good read, it is honest and factual just like Paul kimmage
I love the little dainty nods from Hincapie............and knowing what he knew, it only a matter of time before the truth will come out.fair play to kimmage for asking him real questions............
I'll bet Lance has looked at the footage of Marion Jones crying in public while admitting to using performance enhancers and brokenly saying "I have betrayed your trust" and thought to himself: "Hell, man, I don't want to go through that."
So he gets on his cancer soapbox and pulls the suckers in.
Are you within 100 miles of Lance? *YOU* are in the spin zone. Sure, Kimmage went over the top, but now in 2011, we have his accusers coming clean, and the answer is now "who can believe a liar". So are they forgiven and can move on or not? Hypocrit.
What a great example of a professional response in a moment of emotional turmoil! Thank you Lance for so many years of amazing cycling action! Doping or no doping Still the greatest cyclist to walk the face of this earth!
@McCormickAnimation He just got on the cancer soapbox and you and a lot of other naivetes fell for it. He is a cheat. I'm glad he didn't die of cancer and yes he is doing some good in assisting research, but you fall for the face he puts on to hide the fact that he DID cheat.
You are good in turning the allegations around, but as I said before it is logical that the WADA doesn't approve research that criticises them and exposes their corruption in their witch-hunt against LA.
The Vrijman report is a 132 page document full of sourced prove and evidence where the conclusions are drawn from. The press release from the WADA however does not provide any reasoning WHY the report was lacking professionalism. So who is making the smoke screen here?
@4FalconAF Clearly you have never read Vrijman's report. It's a farcical report as said by WADA, we are still waiting UCI promised lawsuit against WADA for their statement.
No scientists who had validated the new testing method had disapproved their method too.
How can a lawyer dismiss their work without understanding science?
Has Vrijman attacked the science part in his report? NO!
He just said that the testing methods had not followed UCI requirements!
The reporter is right; Lance DOPEstrong is the cancer of cycling. He would have never won the tour without doping. There are mountains of evidence suggesting his guilt. He should be required to relinquish all of his money and property and sent to prison for being a fraud. It’s really sad that so many thought of him as some kind of hero only to find out that he’s one big lie.
Wether or not you like lance armstrong no one should ever make fun of other who have a terrible disease. So a VERY nice comeback from armstrong. I hope that paul kimmage got his ass fired.
I know Kimmage and his family and he has let himself and all of Ireland down. I am so perfoundly hurt by Kimmage . I am so perfoundly disappointed in Kimmage. He is an embarrassment to Ireland. A failed man a failed professional. Some issues go outside the paramaters of sport. He will be remembered for this , attacking an individual who fought and won againist cancer, cycling is irrelevant when matched against this one single issue. How can Mr Kimmage can live with himself ?
well if Lance didn't wanna see the doctor and didn't wanna take the meds, then it wouldn't be cured either. I say Lance has a great if not equal role in curing himself.
@u368 I'll let the sarcasm roll off here. Say what you like, but if Lance had given up on himself things may turn out different. His upbeat attitude towards his cancer issues gave him a psychological edge against the disease. Call it a placebo effect, but it beats seeing the depressed patients getting their treatments in the hospital.
@u368 I thought that it was Lance's body that defeated the cancer. The fact that he was/is so fit, his body was able to cope with the amount of drugs that would otherwise make a person so weak it would kill them.
We stereotype and we use gay as an insult and are racist in this generation but cmon people how low can you sink to cancer like that. Sexuality and Race don't kill, least not as much as cancer does.
@hghepo He never compared doping to cancer he compared LANCE to cancer listen clearly. Second your kidding right... cancer itself kills almost 2000 people each day doping doesn't even scratch the surface even for the athlete demographic. And just to add doping is not a disease it's the use of performance enhancers, it's a choice to use them, cancer is not. I saw your other comment and seriously? if he did dope he was only hurting himself, it's a sport, a game, a game that doesn't compare to life
@MrAnimated Yes Kimmage compared Lance to cancer because Lance is the doping master, and doping kills cycling.
Of course cancer kills more people than doping, but malnutrition still kills much more people than cancer. A lot of poor people would be happy to live old enough to get cancer like the wealthiest people.
Hey Lance is big business now. Who's gonna bring Lance down? With real proof, who? Tell me? What believable cyclist who did not dope and has receipts, recordings and pictures gonna step forward? Nobody is coming forward cause they know they will end up like the security guard that found out the Watergate scandal. He never worked again and died a broken man
that doesn't really change the situation. lance armstrong is not only a cheap cheater, he hasn't even got the balls to admit it and tries to talk people down who point to his wrongdoings... he's a piece of shit. he DESERVES NO SUPPORT.
I understand what youre saying...I just would like to know why they are letting this drugging keep going on? Someone must want to bag a fish that is lance Armstrong. Right??
the sports associations and the media are not really interested, because they KNOW they can make TONS of money with them.
doping creates new records, doping creates "super" athletes which are idolised and used to keep the sports in the memories of people = more attention = more moneys.
I don't think Armstrong dopes. He must have had SO many tests that it is hardly possible. His return for cancer and his chance of winning can't be stood by someone who lies and fakes. He seems too fair, a person knowing that he is wrong simply can't fake such important things.
ALL top pro cyclists are what you call "dopers". Thats part of their profession, and btw its still better than sitting at home, drinking beer, smoking, taking drugs etc...just my opinion...
So you would admit that is difficult to be an inspiration to fight cancer or illness when using drugs that can give cancer and to inspire other people to do like you.
BTW why did he had to treat so badly people pointing his doping?
hes not inspiring people to take drugs or to "dope"! he has overcome cancer and won the TDF. Thats an inspiration to fight even when someone has a disease like cancer! peace out.
@u368 Why would Lance give his permission to test the samples to the UCI if he knew they would come up positive. Is there a rock solid chain of custody in the samples? The whole retest for academic purposes seems somewhat fishy as well.
Doping is not a disease, it's your own choice to use doping or not.
Cancer is a disease, because you do not have that choice, you get it or you won’t. Simple as that.
I personally don’t care if mr. Amstrong uses doping or not, it’s His choice. It is not allowed and if he did use it, he should be punished. Also simple
No one must use metaphors like this one. In this case mr. Amstrong isn’t important, it is the choice of words of mr. Kimmage that shocked me and a lot of people.
Everyone who uses cancer to illustrate such an opinion or a believe, is in my book wrong. Obviously you do not know the effects in ones life, when diagnosed with cancer. It changes your life forever. I have to test myself 2 times a month, just to make sure that I am clear. And therefore: Yes I am offended
@ARKA35 Sorry if you are offended but I know a man who died by cancer and has always joked with it and with death, he said death is joking of us, we have to joke of him too.
Considering the relationship between doping and sports as cancer is unbelievable ignorant. Doping is used out of free will, cancer is not. The money and fame involved in sports are pushing the weaker into obscure methods to regain some glory and money. When it is discovered, we communicate, punish and move on. Cheating is related to sports since De Coubertin started the Olympic Games. But cancer is an uncurable disease that distroyes lives. Including that of me and my family.
Indeed, i agree, figting against doping is a good thing, absolutely true, but the way Kimmage did this was extremely stupid and grieving/painful for all people with cancer.
u368, bestde that, in many other sports dope is involved unfortunatly.
lance is so right, my mother had pancreatic cancer and survived and admires lance armstrong. 9 years later she now has cancer on the liver so lance is an inspiration for my mother and what he stands for. I will never forgive that reporter for that statement
I pray that Lance NEVER gets caught cheating. Not because I have an opinion either way about whether he has, but because it will do more damage to this beloved sport than ALL other cheaters who have been ejected from the TDF and other races.
I can't believe all the bashin on Lance as a rider and his foundation. Lance has overcome a horrible disease, and DOMINATED the TOF and the cycling world on top of that. Like him or not, have some respect for a man that has a lot of drive and focus. He is a strong man for overcoming something that PEOPLE DIE every day for. His foundation has done nothing but HELP those with this disease. Contador is a selfish prick who will get his reality check. He's done nothing compared to Lance. Bash him!
Lance dominated TDF BECAUSE of DOPING. Before meeting Dr. Ferrari, known and condemned in Italia for EPO doping, Lance was unable to finish TDF with contender.
So clearly he cheated and continue to cheat and lie. Hopefully, it seems that he could be stopped with the new doping affair of last TDF.
Continue? Huh interesting, when was the last time he was accused of doping? How many tests have he received? Like I said before, whether or not you like him, you shouldn't bash his foundation and say he is doing it for himself. Thats ignorant
you shouldn't so so much bad stuff about Lance Armstrong... you don't know how it feels 2 look death into the eyes... to say he only does it for his own good.... I think you or just are very dumb and stupid... you must have been there to feel how Lance Armstrong feels about cancer... he has the right to be pissed at Paul Klimmage. And about Lance stabbing Contador in the back... eventually he did work 4 Contador maybe you were just to focused on his bad things that you didn't notice the good.
furthermore, Like him or not, lance has done more for cancer than you will everr know. his campaign remains one of the biggest contributers to the fight against the disease, and anything that he his done to "sell himself as the reborn messiah" is in attempt to free the world of this malady. And i watched the giro, the tour de california, ireland, the Vuelta and others. and i am american. in short, say what you want, hear what you want, and continue to live in ignorance if thats what you like.
What exactly has Armstrong done for cancer? "Awareness" in itself is not going to produce scientific results or pay anybody's medical bills.
He has made pro/contra Armstrong into pro/contra cancer for very selfish reasons, knowing that nobody is pro cancer.
Disliking Armstrong's shady methods has nothing to do with hating him or loving cancer. It only has to do with forming an opinion based on facts rather than on unreflected emotional hysteria.
felixhausdorff. What has Lance done for cancer?????
Until youve done the least that Lance has done for cancer (Science or Awareness), then youre a hypocrite for criticizing his efforts! Lance is not a Doctor or a Scientisthes a leader and motivator. And in that, hes given 100% to cancer. How about you?
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thats horsecrap, Contador was talking crap after he won, and actually Lance helped him win. Contador is a terrible person for that. And lance won 7 times compared to 1. So there ya go.
Lance was talking and twittering crap before during and after. Lance did not help Contador, he stabbed him in his back at any given occasion. Contador won the Tour twice, the Vuelta once and the Giro once.
Lance is a self righteous hypocrite. He has taken the cancer cause hostage, and the only reason he cares is that it helps him sell himself as the reborn messiah to the stupid americans that know nothing about cycling and only follow the tour.
That is absolutely an ureasonable thing to say. if you watched all of last year's tour and knew anything about cycling, you would know that lance was a tremendously loyal team player, sometimes where it was not warrented. in fact, it was the other way around, such as when contador broke away against team stratagy in the early mountain stages and again when he dropped kloden and cost the team a full house on the podium. get your facts straight, turn off the tv, research and quit hating americans
Contador attacked his own teammate (Adreas Kloden) in stage 17.
The plan was for Kloden to pull Contador further away from the Schlecks and then Kloden or Contador would win stage 17. Contador would also have more time over the Schlecks! Instead, he helped the Schlecks build more time over Astana and still failed to win stage 17. Contador helped Andy S. That's just dumb. Very poor strategy!!!
Because Armstrong and Bruyneel would have not let him win if the second rider were an Astana, Contador had to consolid Schleck second place to protect himself against the treason of Lance and The Hog as we had already see it on stage 4!
Contador won TDF against other contenders and had to fight his own disloyal team since the return of Lance. What a shame for those crooks.
Hghepo, Lance was not a factor on stage 17, so its a stretch to blame him for Contadors failure. The issue is Contador attacking teammate (Kloden) who was trying to help Astana win the stage. The treasonous act was done by Contador on Kloden and team Astana! At least in that case!!!
I like Contador! Hes one of my favorite riders. And he got a raw deal when Lance came. I admit that! But his anti-team strategy on stage 17 was just wrong and cant be justified by team politics.
Klöden was already cooked, but the most important is to understand what happened that day is the result of Lance's war of words and his behaviour on precedent stages. Since stage 4 Astana team was not riding for Contador, we see it on Haitacam, at Verbier,.. so Contador has to act for himself.
FIGNON, JALABERT, CRIQUELION, ZOOTEMELK, Guimard, Thevenet and many others stated that point clearly. Can you cite a retired rider or DS supporting your point.
Hghepo: I agree Kloden may have already been burnt. But Contador didnt know that until afterwards. But to be fair to Contador, I think its possible that Contador believed Kloden could follow his attack. Id like to believe that anyway.
But on the Astana issue, lets assume what you say is true; then it would have been more honorable for Contador to publicly and completely disassociate from Astana after stage 4.
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I don't like Lance at all and I think he acted like a baby when COntador beat him in the TDF this year.
But he was completely on point here. One, you just don't compare a human being to cancer. Especially in the context of talking with a person who overcame cancer. Two, he came off as an immature prick with the way he posed his "what do you admire so much about these dopers" blast. What a loaded question. Just an unprofessional and intellectually dishonest remark on his part. Kudos, Lance
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Wow, I can't believe someone would say that. I can guarantee you he is one of the lucky ones never to have had cancer affect himself or a close family member. What an asshole, good job Lance, very classy remark considering the circumstances.
I have to hand it to Kimmage....although he is a whiner and should not have used the word'cancer' to describe Lance, he is highlighting the very real fact that there is drugs in the sport and all the guys at the top table are using them.....however within the sport/industry no one really wants to acknowledge this.........
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Lance, c'mon, just ride your bike and stop talking so much. i admire you for what you did/do on your bike, not what you do in front of reporters, way WAY too much publicity.
LMAO I'm pretty sure Lance isn't someone that enjoys a lot of publicity. Even if he is getting a lot of publicity, it's mostly for promoting Livestrong.
maybe he doesn't, but it just seems like too much, too much advertising, too much talking, you don't want Livestrong turning into some kind of "Oprah - like" 3 ring circus sideshow, you know what i mean? enough with all the Lance blogs and home videos already, keep it classy and dignified.
He is at a PRESS CONFERENCE. Do you understand the definition? The event is publicity-based, contractually required, and does include reporters. 'PRESS" being the keyword...
Sorry you got dropped on your head at a young age, it clearly has had its effects. LIVESTRONG!
i'm not talking about press conferences, if that's required, that's fine, i'm talking about all the commercials and money he receives for endorsing products and doing commercials, and going on talk shows, etc.. stuff like that, whatever, i'm over this.
Don't look into Mr. Armstong's impact on cycling, people. It's not allowed.
Also, he now owns the word 'cancer'; so you'll have to check with him before using it, regardless of the context.
If you question him in anyway it's clear that the only reason you are doing so is because you are a perverse individual who wishes the disease of cancer on all human beings.
It's funny how you go to the reporter's defence when of all metaphors he uses cancer on Lance Armstrong. Obviously you don't know how cancer effects people.
In behalf of my fellow Dutch countrymen/women sincere apologies for DownLowProductions ' stupidity and rudeness. And please know he's part of a very very small minority in my county, thinking this way many of whom worship Jan ullrich btw (believe it or not :P)
Kimmage is a disgrace for his profession with his remarks
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kimmage has seen the professional scene like very few others have and got out.
his family are all in cycling when lance calls doping -hand in the cookie jar-he is condeming the sport and everyone in it to ten years drugs.would you give your mother drugs to make her a better mother or your wife ...well then why should sport be different ...anyone who puts a syringe in their skin to survive one day [athlete / addict]other than in a hospital lives to regret it.
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Kimmage got out of the sport because he had all the cycling talent of a legless spider with late-stage emphysema, and he has less journalistic acumen than Johann Hari, whom George Galloway, Noam Chomsky and the Dalai Lama all recognize as a fat Stalinist drug addict. dodo3366, I pronounce you guilty of acute and terminal ignorance, and sentence you to "ten years drugs." And since when does Lance surround himself with the likes of you?
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ihatenoodles your the asshole. If anyone knows about the shit that goes on in cycling it's a former pro like Paul Kimmage. your probably one of these gullible fucks who thinks lance was totally clean. Read Paul's book and then reassess your comments.
Paul Kimmage is not a journalist with class and I will never read a book that was written with obvious frustration by someone who enjoys making others feel bad.
There are proper ways to practice decent journalism. He doesn't know them yet.
Lance Armstrong is not only a great cyclist but a great human being who deserves respect and admiration.
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So you presume to know Kimmage's motivations and deride his journalism; while making clear that you have not and intend to never actually read what he has to say.
Also Sir, I'm gravely offended by your username.
Noodles are a source of nutrition that have kept many people in this world alive.
Perhaps you don't respect noodles and would rather see those those people dead.
^^^ wow for a paddy mick, you don't even sound drunk. Thick as fuck, but stone cold sober. Might try some Jamesons... Bushmills... maybe then you will come around to the fact that Kimmage has zero in terms of journalistic, let alone cycling (lol right) credentials. What a rank twat he is, albeit mildly entertaining.
Instead of posting shite on youtube, why not fight for your country? The Real IRA might find you useful, and when you botch the pipe bomb construction, Eire shall be a fairer land.
I notice you launched into a barrage of insults regarding my nationality rather than offer a cogent argument on the issue at hand.
Which says it all, really.
I shall pour myself a drink, perhaps a fine whiskey distilled in this fair land, and ruminate on the knowledge contained in your well thought out reply.
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yeah drink, fuck your sister, do wtf ever. haha ride a bike for once in your life even -- but i'll switch out with EPO all day every day and you can't stop us
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kimmage was a pro he was notorious in the peleton for trying to tour a tour a l'eau[on water].-this was considered ridulous at the time and it seems like it still is..unfortunately.
In 1999, Bassons wrote that leader Lance Armstrong approached him and suggested that he leave the race. "Armstrong told me: Why don't you just go away?"
According to Christophe Bassons, there had been one day where a number of riders wanted to rebel against the drugs. This was the day when Lance Armstrong won the stage from Le Grand Bornand to Sestrières.
Sunday Times is a shit paper. They are incapable of writing a balanced article where Lance Armstrong is involved. Paul Kimmage is a shit sucking wanker.
He was a triathlete through junior high, high school, and professionally. He had determination as a child that most kids will not have till they become adults. You knock someone down and say they cheat cause your absolutely jealous of his mental, and physical strength. if you don't like him what the point of watching the videos? just to make yourself more pissed off that you do not have what he has in all aspects of life. Grow up and focus on your own life. you might actually get something done.
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lol.. i just noticedmt comments are deleted..
don't you just love censorship.
ill keep the moderator busy..
So:
Lance: did dope, he didn't deserve his career wich is based on deception intimidation and blackmail, he lies to everyones face everyday and ppl love him for it, is a disgrace to cycling,
I dont think this guy does anything. Hes so against doping and goes out of his was to speak against that if he did it would be too much to loose, he'd loose all his validility and so would his cancer message. Most of the guys that do get caught arnt too much in the spotlight and keep quiet so they dont make asses of themselves when they get caught.
oh come on! tht frozen urine has been used already! nobody stop them to find the proof! still they got nothing! he is good! in wht he is doing! u cant destroy a good man!!
fuck all you hatin' ass little virgins!!!! LANCE IS THE BEST !!!! $ EVER !!! FUCK YA'LL ! h ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hah a ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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Lance Armstrong ultimate example of blindness to who the conspirators who will execute him in the next days.
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Lance Armstrong like Floyd Landis and Jan Urllrich were or like Usain Bolt will be. Victims of a conspiracy set up by WADA, or better said, by the US and EU "governments" all controlled by the illuminati.
@sharpendintothedark Maybe Paul shouldn't have used the language he did but I'm Irish and proud of Paul as he's got more bottle than 99% of the peleton for speaking the truth even when it's going to make him a figure of hate by people who know little about what really happens inside the peleton. LA 's
lleweybyrne 1 month ago
Oh Lance pretending that he doesn't know who Paul Kimmage is. I've read Lance's book which is pretty inspiring, but I've read Rough Ride and who do I really believe?
TheMimifur 2 months ago
If you read Paul's book (Blood sport) you will see lance in a whole new light, let me tell you, it is all nevative. as for lance's argument mentioning cancer, he was the one who bought up the topic. what paul said about cance was only a small fraction in his book which in context makes sence. Blood sport is a very good read, it is honest and factual just like Paul kimmage
prittyboy01 3 months ago in playlist cycling
@prittyboy01 its rough ride
GiantDefy954 2 weeks ago
I love the little dainty nods from Hincapie............and knowing what he knew, it only a matter of time before the truth will come out.fair play to kimmage for asking him real questions............
calerbass 3 months ago
tough to watch his self righteousness with recent Hamilton/Hincape revelations.
flatswing 6 months ago
Lance Doping-strong
PornobrillenAli 6 months ago
Google: Lance Armstrong gebruikte doping. Most of it's in English. Paul Kimmage, the reporter here, is featured in it.
wtw88 6 months ago
I'll bet Lance has looked at the footage of Marion Jones crying in public while admitting to using performance enhancers and brokenly saying "I have betrayed your trust" and thought to himself: "Hell, man, I don't want to go through that."
So he gets on his cancer soapbox and pulls the suckers in.
wtw88 6 months ago
Are you within 100 miles of Lance? *YOU* are in the spin zone. Sure, Kimmage went over the top, but now in 2011, we have his accusers coming clean, and the answer is now "who can believe a liar". So are they forgiven and can move on or not? Hypocrit.
ltgnerd 7 months ago
Enjoy Rykers doper
Check out Hincapie's face
Lance took Kimmage totally out of context by the way.
TheNorthernTom 8 months ago
well done paul seeking the truth! lance trying his best oscar speech!
hokkk2200 8 months ago 4
What a great example of a professional response in a moment of emotional turmoil! Thank you Lance for so many years of amazing cycling action! Doping or no doping Still the greatest cyclist to walk the face of this earth!
munimatt 8 months ago
cancer bla bla bla, yeah, were sorry you had cancer..im sorry for the ones in my family who have died of cancer... still, youre a cheater armstrong!
zaurtrien 9 months ago
Lance Armstrong made some good points there. I would hardlings call this a "Heated " discussion though.
steveindenmark 10 months ago
That is the swiftest, most eloquent kick in the ass I have ever seen. Fantastic.
McCormickAnimation 1 year ago
@McCormickAnimation He just got on the cancer soapbox and you and a lot of other naivetes fell for it. He is a cheat. I'm glad he didn't die of cancer and yes he is doing some good in assisting research, but you fall for the face he puts on to hide the fact that he DID cheat.
wtw88 6 months ago
You are good in turning the allegations around, but as I said before it is logical that the WADA doesn't approve research that criticises them and exposes their corruption in their witch-hunt against LA.
The Vrijman report is a 132 page document full of sourced prove and evidence where the conclusions are drawn from. The press release from the WADA however does not provide any reasoning WHY the report was lacking professionalism. So who is making the smoke screen here?
4FalconAF 1 year ago
@4FalconAF Clearly you have never read Vrijman's report. It's a farcical report as said by WADA, we are still waiting UCI promised lawsuit against WADA for their statement.
No scientists who had validated the new testing method had disapproved their method too.
How can a lawyer dismiss their work without understanding science?
Has Vrijman attacked the science part in his report? NO!
He just said that the testing methods had not followed UCI requirements!
no doubt it was scientist purpose!
hghepo 1 year ago
The reporter is right; Lance DOPEstrong is the cancer of cycling. He would have never won the tour without doping. There are mountains of evidence suggesting his guilt. He should be required to relinquish all of his money and property and sent to prison for being a fraud. It’s really sad that so many thought of him as some kind of hero only to find out that he’s one big lie.
mrcardio9r 1 year ago
I invite you to watch "Lance Armstrong gebruikte doping" on Netherland TV (nos . nl website), it's mostly in english !
A good explanation about the cancer of cycling that is Lance.
hghepo 1 year ago 2
@hghepo "Lance Armstrong gebruikte doping" a very good article in (nos . nl) thx
VeloTrip 1 year ago
Hell Yeah! Lance kicked his ass! Good job Lance! it is not right to say something like this about a cancersurvivor and fighter...
eloyn14 1 year ago
You tell em Lance!
flyMTL 1 year ago 2
Heated discussion? Armstrong is just kicking Paul Kimmage's butt here completely by reacting so good! Respect.
eearie 1 year ago 3
he does in his bollox
slashgalvin 1 year ago
Doesn't it strike anyone else funny that they are having this conversation in front of an AMGEN banner? AMGEN makes EPO
hahahahahaha
SaltyTank07 1 year ago
Wether or not you like lance armstrong no one should ever make fun of other who have a terrible disease. So a VERY nice comeback from armstrong. I hope that paul kimmage got his ass fired.
tommyboy331 1 year ago
I know Kimmage and his family and he has let himself and all of Ireland down. I am so perfoundly hurt by Kimmage . I am so perfoundly disappointed in Kimmage. He is an embarrassment to Ireland. A failed man a failed professional. Some issues go outside the paramaters of sport. He will be remembered for this , attacking an individual who fought and won againist cancer, cycling is irrelevant when matched against this one single issue. How can Mr Kimmage can live with himself ?
sharpendintothedark 1 year ago
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u368 1 year ago
@sharpendintothedark @sharpendintothedark
Would Lance have win his battle against cancer alone?
No so that is medicine and doctors who defeated his cancer, Lance's part, if existed, is very small in the recovery.
u368 1 year ago
@u368
well if Lance didn't wanna see the doctor and didn't wanna take the meds, then it wouldn't be cured either. I say Lance has a great if not equal role in curing himself.
bRaja87 1 year ago
@bRaja87 Yes you are right, we are all great survivorsbecause we don't kill ourselves everyday. Thanks for your point.
u368 1 year ago
@u368 I'll let the sarcasm roll off here. Say what you like, but if Lance had given up on himself things may turn out different. His upbeat attitude towards his cancer issues gave him a psychological edge against the disease. Call it a placebo effect, but it beats seeing the depressed patients getting their treatments in the hospital.
bRaja87 1 year ago
@u368 I thought that it was Lance's body that defeated the cancer. The fact that he was/is so fit, his body was able to cope with the amount of drugs that would otherwise make a person so weak it would kill them.
RCPenney 1 year ago
Very well said Lance......
funkyflights 1 year ago
Doper!!!
Vambo1958 1 year ago
We stereotype and we use gay as an insult and are racist in this generation but cmon people how low can you sink to cancer like that. Sexuality and Race don't kill, least not as much as cancer does.
MrAnimated 1 year ago
@MrAnimated Doping kills much more young and healthy athletes than cancer does.
hghepo 1 year ago
@hghepo He never compared doping to cancer he compared LANCE to cancer listen clearly. Second your kidding right... cancer itself kills almost 2000 people each day doping doesn't even scratch the surface even for the athlete demographic. And just to add doping is not a disease it's the use of performance enhancers, it's a choice to use them, cancer is not. I saw your other comment and seriously? if he did dope he was only hurting himself, it's a sport, a game, a game that doesn't compare to life
MrAnimated 1 year ago
@MrAnimated Yes Kimmage compared Lance to cancer because Lance is the doping master, and doping kills cycling.
Of course cancer kills more people than doping, but malnutrition still kills much more people than cancer. A lot of poor people would be happy to live old enough to get cancer like the wealthiest people.
hghepo 1 year ago
hahaha... now he got beaten by 11 MINUTES and 44 SECS during a single track section LOLOLO ... well it's HARD if you can't dope hahah
LANCE,THE #FAIL IS STRONG IN YOU !
sooperfukker 1 year ago
mr. armstrong is a cheapass to hide his wrongdoings behind cancer... what a crapper
sooperfukker 1 year ago
@sooperfukker
Hey Lance is big business now. Who's gonna bring Lance down? With real proof, who? Tell me? What believable cyclist who did not dope and has receipts, recordings and pictures gonna step forward? Nobody is coming forward cause they know they will end up like the security guard that found out the Watergate scandal. He never worked again and died a broken man
videolover61 1 year ago
@videolover61
that doesn't really change the situation. lance armstrong is not only a cheap cheater, he hasn't even got the balls to admit it and tries to talk people down who point to his wrongdoings... he's a piece of shit. he DESERVES NO SUPPORT.
sooperfukker 1 year ago
@sooperfukker
I understand what youre saying...I just would like to know why they are letting this drugging keep going on? Someone must want to bag a fish that is lance Armstrong. Right??
videolover61 1 year ago
@videolover61
the ultimate reason: money.
the sports associations and the media are not really interested, because they KNOW they can make TONS of money with them.
doping creates new records, doping creates "super" athletes which are idolised and used to keep the sports in the memories of people = more attention = more moneys.
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that's the whole deal.
sooperfukker 1 year ago 2
@sooperfukker
Good point indeed...
in essence: the chasing of dopers is all an illusion.
videolover61 1 year ago
nicely said.
ch3333z 1 year ago
I don't think Armstrong dopes. He must have had SO many tests that it is hardly possible. His return for cancer and his chance of winning can't be stood by someone who lies and fakes. He seems too fair, a person knowing that he is wrong simply can't fake such important things.
eearie 1 year ago
bore off U38. Pull your knickers up and go for a hard ride in the mountains
wooders1000 1 year ago
blaah blaah blaah
jonnymilan 1 year ago
Paul Kimmage should ask that question again...Perhaps we'd get a less sanctimonious response this time around.....
TheDerridian 1 year ago 6
LANCE ARMSTRONG RULEZ!!!
Chrisesset88 1 year ago
im not a huge Lance fan - but this is admirable. Just show how strong Lance is
habis99 1 year ago
Lance is a cheater, you must be blind not to see that.
dielsman 1 year ago
@dielsman You say he is a cheater...where is the proof?
quarvis 1 year ago
@dielsman oddly enough he has never tested positive, unlike eddie merckx.
quarvis 1 year ago
I love the Amgen logo in the background. :P
CJ7with285andt18 2 years ago 4
Lance is an inspiration for many people. Hes helping them to survive. Thats way more than any Paul Kimmage will ever achieve!
Go Lance!
differdange08 2 years ago
Shame that only a doper and acheater could be an inspiration to people.
u368 2 years ago 5
ALL top pro cyclists are what you call "dopers". Thats part of their profession, and btw its still better than sitting at home, drinking beer, smoking, taking drugs etc...just my opinion...
differdange08 2 years ago
So you would admit that is difficult to be an inspiration to fight cancer or illness when using drugs that can give cancer and to inspire other people to do like you.
BTW why did he had to treat so badly people pointing his doping?
u368 2 years ago 3
hes not inspiring people to take drugs or to "dope"! he has overcome cancer and won the TDF. Thats an inspiration to fight even when someone has a disease like cancer! peace out.
differdange08 2 years ago
@u368 Where is the proof of the doping?
quarvis 1 year ago
@quarvis Blood science gives you the answer : how can hematocrite go up when reticulocytes were going down?
Have you read Ashenden'interview about the 1999 EPO samples of Lance?
u368 1 year ago
@u368 Why would Lance give his permission to test the samples to the UCI if he knew they would come up positive. Is there a rock solid chain of custody in the samples? The whole retest for academic purposes seems somewhat fishy as well.
quarvis 1 year ago
@quarvis Fishy like giving secretly $500.000 to UCI after a positive test to buy a none-existent blood testing machine at that time?
u368 1 year ago
@u368 Is this alberto Contador?
quarvis 1 year ago
when a common athlete like Lance can win the most prestigious race with doping, that is a terrible inspiration for other athletes to do so.
No surprise that a lot of athletes died on sport field o broken heart and so, or to die much younger.
Kimmage didn't inspire people to dope.
u368 2 years ago 5
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Respect for Lance
Whether you think he's good for the sport or not, he makes a fair point on both issues. That can't be contested.
y2kcjc 2 years ago
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Bam ... in your face Paul, in your face!
eKh79 2 years ago
Good job Paul to point the obvious, Lance's comeback was the worst thing for the anti-doping fight.
hghepo 2 years ago
@hghepo
He made a point with a very wrong statement, It hurts everyone who've had this disease.
Including me.
ARKA35 1 year ago 3
@ARKA35 Doping is a serious disease...To label it as cancer of cycling, that is a good analogy, and there is no reason to be hurt by such image.
Lance should have responded about the doping question but he preferred to escape and use cancer as shield to not face his sins.
hghepo 1 year ago
@hghepo i do not agree. You chose to use doping. You don't chose to get cancer...Quite a difference dont you think?
dizzr123 1 year ago
@dizzr123
I agree
@hghepo
Doping is not a disease, it's your own choice to use doping or not.
Cancer is a disease, because you do not have that choice, you get it or you won’t. Simple as that.
I personally don’t care if mr. Amstrong uses doping or not, it’s His choice. It is not allowed and if he did use it, he should be punished. Also simple
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@hghepo i do not agree. You chose to use doping. You don't chose to get cancer...Quite a difference dont you think?
dizzr123 1 year ago
@hghepo
No one must use metaphors like this one. In this case mr. Amstrong isn’t important, it is the choice of words of mr. Kimmage that shocked me and a lot of people.
Everyone who uses cancer to illustrate such an opinion or a believe, is in my book wrong. Obviously you do not know the effects in ones life, when diagnosed with cancer. It changes your life forever. I have to test myself 2 times a month, just to make sure that I am clear. And therefore: Yes I am offended
ARKA35 1 year ago 2
@ARKA35 Sorry if you are offended but I know a man who died by cancer and has always joked with it and with death, he said death is joking of us, we have to joke of him too.
hghepo 1 year ago
@hghepo
You're friend is right, but I am very sure that your friend also didn't like this comment of mr. Kimmage.
And btw I also make jokes about My disease, No problem, it's part of accepting.
it.
ARKA35 1 year ago
I like the way Lance reply all the infamies of kimmage.
Go Lance. Ftw!
jekellhyde 2 years ago
I am stunned with the control that Lance has on replying this a**hole journalist.
I am suffering from renal cancer myself and with a comment like that I would have jumped over the table and gone frenzy on this guys head.
How can make such a comment about someone who has overcome such a disease? His license as a sports journalist should be revoked.
fullyspecialized 2 years ago
Even if Kimmage could had chosen better words, he has done his job by pointing the fact that doping is the cancer of sport and cycling.
And as the overwhelmning evidences of Lance doping make of Lance a doping symbol.
You are confusing journalist and commentator who are just there to promote myths, lies and receive bribes.
hellsadore 2 years ago 5
Considering the relationship between doping and sports as cancer is unbelievable ignorant. Doping is used out of free will, cancer is not. The money and fame involved in sports are pushing the weaker into obscure methods to regain some glory and money. When it is discovered, we communicate, punish and move on. Cheating is related to sports since De Coubertin started the Olympic Games. But cancer is an uncurable disease that distroyes lives. Including that of me and my family.
fullyspecialized 2 years ago
Just for the record Axelson has been caught for EPO use... he had been cured for testicular cancer too.
Doping destroyes lives too and with the huge advantage of blood doping that forces other riders to dope.
hellsadore 2 years ago
Paul Kimmage is just a frustrated ex-cyclist with a small shitty career, he is a shame for cycling and everybody suffering of cancer,
Kimmage: POGUE MAHONE, CUNT!!!
I know many Irish people, much nicer and politer than you, shame on you, you have hurt so many people all over the world, you idiot.
I was never a big Armstrong-fan, but we in Holland, including myself fully support Armstrong!
fietsframexyz 2 years ago
Wasn't it in Holland that died the first cyclists from EPO? What happened to PDM team?
I was thinking that Nederlander would support anti-doping fight? Maybe some of them prefer the cancer of sport: the doping!
u368 2 years ago
Indeed, i agree, figting against doping is a good thing, absolutely true, but the way Kimmage did this was extremely stupid and grieving/painful for all people with cancer.
u368, bestde that, in many other sports dope is involved unfortunatly.
fietsframexyz 2 years ago 3
lance is so right, my mother had pancreatic cancer and survived and admires lance armstrong. 9 years later she now has cancer on the liver so lance is an inspiration for my mother and what he stands for. I will never forgive that reporter for that statement
danm050 2 years ago 7
@fietsframexyz, póg mo thóin right form. I belive. - lol - síochán!
jekellhyde 2 years ago
I pray that Lance NEVER gets caught cheating. Not because I have an opinion either way about whether he has, but because it will do more damage to this beloved sport than ALL other cheaters who have been ejected from the TDF and other races.
oraclepw 2 years ago
Amen Lance...well said!
givemetoast 2 years ago
I can't believe all the bashin on Lance as a rider and his foundation. Lance has overcome a horrible disease, and DOMINATED the TOF and the cycling world on top of that. Like him or not, have some respect for a man that has a lot of drive and focus. He is a strong man for overcoming something that PEOPLE DIE every day for. His foundation has done nothing but HELP those with this disease. Contador is a selfish prick who will get his reality check. He's done nothing compared to Lance. Bash him!
MustangBritney 2 years ago
Lance dominated TDF BECAUSE of DOPING. Before meeting Dr. Ferrari, known and condemned in Italia for EPO doping, Lance was unable to finish TDF with contender.
So clearly he cheated and continue to cheat and lie. Hopefully, it seems that he could be stopped with the new doping affair of last TDF.
(Everyone hav suffered directly or not of cancer)
hghepo 2 years ago
Continue? Huh interesting, when was the last time he was accused of doping? How many tests have he received? Like I said before, whether or not you like him, you shouldn't bash his foundation and say he is doing it for himself. Thats ignorant
MustangBritney 2 years ago
Maybe you missed the yesterday report stating that Astana team is under police investigation to have used perfusion equipment on last TDF.
Who is bashing LAF? People just said that Lance is a cheater, a lier and a doper, so it's difficult to trust him, isn't it?
And clearly he uses his cancer to deflect the justified question that people have about all his doping stories
hghepo 2 years ago
you shouldn't so so much bad stuff about Lance Armstrong... you don't know how it feels 2 look death into the eyes... to say he only does it for his own good.... I think you or just are very dumb and stupid... you must have been there to feel how Lance Armstrong feels about cancer... he has the right to be pissed at Paul Klimmage. And about Lance stabbing Contador in the back... eventually he did work 4 Contador maybe you were just to focused on his bad things that you didn't notice the good.
omgeverynameistoken 2 years ago
No Lance has no reason to be pissed, he can't ignore that he is a symbol doping of cyclism so he is the cancer of that sport.
Kimmage made a fault by giving Lance a possibility to deflect the doping question a,d his 6 EPO samples of 1999.
u368 2 years ago
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reallycoolvids 2 years ago
furthermore, Like him or not, lance has done more for cancer than you will everr know. his campaign remains one of the biggest contributers to the fight against the disease, and anything that he his done to "sell himself as the reborn messiah" is in attempt to free the world of this malady. And i watched the giro, the tour de california, ireland, the Vuelta and others. and i am american. in short, say what you want, hear what you want, and continue to live in ignorance if thats what you like.
reallycoolvids 2 years ago
What exactly has Armstrong done for cancer? "Awareness" in itself is not going to produce scientific results or pay anybody's medical bills.
He has made pro/contra Armstrong into pro/contra cancer for very selfish reasons, knowing that nobody is pro cancer.
Disliking Armstrong's shady methods has nothing to do with hating him or loving cancer. It only has to do with forming an opinion based on facts rather than on unreflected emotional hysteria.
felixhausdorff 2 years ago
felixhausdorff. What has Lance done for cancer?????
Until youve done the least that Lance has done for cancer (Science or Awareness), then youre a hypocrite for criticizing his efforts! Lance is not a Doctor or a Scientisthes a leader and motivator. And in that, hes given 100% to cancer. How about you?
givemetoast 2 years ago
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ebexperience 2 years ago
"everyone should forgive and forget, but I will never forgive you" what a hypocrite
10brink 2 years ago
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thats horsecrap, Contador was talking crap after he won, and actually Lance helped him win. Contador is a terrible person for that. And lance won 7 times compared to 1. So there ya go.
treybo10 2 years ago
Lance was talking and twittering crap before during and after. Lance did not help Contador, he stabbed him in his back at any given occasion. Contador won the Tour twice, the Vuelta once and the Giro once.
Lance is a self righteous hypocrite. He has taken the cancer cause hostage, and the only reason he cares is that it helps him sell himself as the reborn messiah to the stupid americans that know nothing about cycling and only follow the tour.
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ebexperience 2 years ago
That is absolutely an ureasonable thing to say. if you watched all of last year's tour and knew anything about cycling, you would know that lance was a tremendously loyal team player, sometimes where it was not warrented. in fact, it was the other way around, such as when contador broke away against team stratagy in the early mountain stages and again when he dropped kloden and cost the team a full house on the podium. get your facts straight, turn off the tv, research and quit hating americans
reallycoolvids 2 years ago
Because of the superiority of Andy Schleck there was never going to be an Astana full house on the podium.
Armstrong directly attacked his teammate Contador on Verbier. Is that considered "tremendously loyal" in the USA?
felixhausdorff 2 years ago
Contador attacked his own teammate (Adreas Kloden) in stage 17.
The plan was for Kloden to pull Contador further away from the Schlecks and then Kloden or Contador would win stage 17. Contador would also have more time over the Schlecks! Instead, he helped the Schlecks build more time over Astana and still failed to win stage 17. Contador helped Andy S. That's just dumb. Very poor strategy!!!
givemetoast 2 years ago
Because Armstrong and Bruyneel would have not let him win if the second rider were an Astana, Contador had to consolid Schleck second place to protect himself against the treason of Lance and The Hog as we had already see it on stage 4!
Contador won TDF against other contenders and had to fight his own disloyal team since the return of Lance. What a shame for those crooks.
hghepo 2 years ago
Hghepo, Lance was not a factor on stage 17, so its a stretch to blame him for Contadors failure. The issue is Contador attacking teammate (Kloden) who was trying to help Astana win the stage. The treasonous act was done by Contador on Kloden and team Astana! At least in that case!!!
I like Contador! Hes one of my favorite riders. And he got a raw deal when Lance came. I admit that! But his anti-team strategy on stage 17 was just wrong and cant be justified by team politics.
givemetoast 2 years ago
Klöden was already cooked, but the most important is to understand what happened that day is the result of Lance's war of words and his behaviour on precedent stages. Since stage 4 Astana team was not riding for Contador, we see it on Haitacam, at Verbier,.. so Contador has to act for himself.
FIGNON, JALABERT, CRIQUELION, ZOOTEMELK, Guimard, Thevenet and many others stated that point clearly. Can you cite a retired rider or DS supporting your point.
hghepo 2 years ago
Hghepo: I agree Kloden may have already been burnt. But Contador didnt know that until afterwards. But to be fair to Contador, I think its possible that Contador believed Kloden could follow his attack. Id like to believe that anyway.
But on the Astana issue, lets assume what you say is true; then it would have been more honorable for Contador to publicly and completely disassociate from Astana after stage 4.
givemetoast 2 years ago
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I don't like Lance at all and I think he acted like a baby when COntador beat him in the TDF this year.
But he was completely on point here. One, you just don't compare a human being to cancer. Especially in the context of talking with a person who overcame cancer. Two, he came off as an immature prick with the way he posed his "what do you admire so much about these dopers" blast. What a loaded question. Just an unprofessional and intellectually dishonest remark on his part. Kudos, Lance
jk59beads 2 years ago
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Wow, I can't believe someone would say that. I can guarantee you he is one of the lucky ones never to have had cancer affect himself or a close family member. What an asshole, good job Lance, very classy remark considering the circumstances.
pyropig7 2 years ago
I have to hand it to Kimmage....although he is a whiner and should not have used the word'cancer' to describe Lance, he is highlighting the very real fact that there is drugs in the sport and all the guys at the top table are using them.....however within the sport/industry no one really wants to acknowledge this.........
andrewchapple 2 years ago
Oh come on Lance...Floyd's on drugs.
ScabbyNubtail 2 years ago 14
Why should a clean Lance be better than all the cheaters?
What a fu...... loser
VikingInvaders 2 years ago
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I'm a huge Lance Armstong fan.
Anyone who wishes to question St. Lance or, god forbid, stand up for a journalists right to ask questions regarding the sport of cycling, beware.
I lie in wait to give you the thumbs down and accuse you of hating all those who have suffered or know anyone who has suffered the disease of cancer.
I know it's not a big deal; most rational people, thanks to dopers, regard cycling as a drug ridden sport not worth caring about anymore.
Still, I stand ever vigilant.
hautelick 2 years ago
rofl
JonesyJackson 2 years ago
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Lance, c'mon, just ride your bike and stop talking so much. i admire you for what you did/do on your bike, not what you do in front of reporters, way WAY too much publicity.
maynardminion 2 years ago
LMAO I'm pretty sure Lance isn't someone that enjoys a lot of publicity. Even if he is getting a lot of publicity, it's mostly for promoting Livestrong.
Pierre06424 2 years ago
maybe he doesn't, but it just seems like too much, too much advertising, too much talking, you don't want Livestrong turning into some kind of "Oprah - like" 3 ring circus sideshow, you know what i mean? enough with all the Lance blogs and home videos already, keep it classy and dignified.
maynardminion 2 years ago
If you're so tired of it why are you here watching and commenting on this vid? :p
on another note; The more publicity for Livestrong the better. he's doing incredibly good work on that field as well
cyberfalcon2 2 years ago 8
boredom, duh. haha, just giving my two cents.
I agree , Livestrong is great, but all the home web cams and stuff, tons of endorsements, etc.. takes away from the real cause.
maynardminion 2 years ago
He is at a PRESS CONFERENCE. Do you understand the definition? The event is publicity-based, contractually required, and does include reporters. 'PRESS" being the keyword...
Sorry you got dropped on your head at a young age, it clearly has had its effects. LIVESTRONG!
mrdysgo 2 years ago 4
i'm not talking about press conferences, if that's required, that's fine, i'm talking about all the commercials and money he receives for endorsing products and doing commercials, and going on talk shows, etc.. stuff like that, whatever, i'm over this.
maynardminion 2 years ago
kimmage is a asshoole.
lockhart143 2 years ago 6
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Just to clarify. I checked with Lance before using the word 'cancer' in my previous post.
He gave me the OK.
hautelick 2 years ago
Don't look into Mr. Armstong's impact on cycling, people. It's not allowed.
Also, he now owns the word 'cancer'; so you'll have to check with him before using it, regardless of the context.
If you question him in anyway it's clear that the only reason you are doing so is because you are a perverse individual who wishes the disease of cancer on all human beings.
hautelick 2 years ago
It's funny how you go to the reporter's defence when of all metaphors he uses cancer on Lance Armstrong. Obviously you don't know how cancer effects people.
Pierre06424 2 years ago
In behalf of my fellow Dutch countrymen/women sincere apologies for DownLowProductions ' stupidity and rudeness. And please know he's part of a very very small minority in my county, thinking this way many of whom worship Jan ullrich btw (believe it or not :P)
Kimmage is a disgrace for his profession with his remarks
cyberfalcon2 2 years ago 7
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kimmage has seen the professional scene like very few others have and got out.
his family are all in cycling when lance calls doping -hand in the cookie jar-he is condeming the sport and everyone in it to ten years drugs.would you give your mother drugs to make her a better mother or your wife ...well then why should sport be different ...anyone who puts a syringe in their skin to survive one day [athlete / addict]other than in a hospital lives to regret it.
dodo3366 2 years ago
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Kimmage got out of the sport because he had all the cycling talent of a legless spider with late-stage emphysema, and he has less journalistic acumen than Johann Hari, whom George Galloway, Noam Chomsky and the Dalai Lama all recognize as a fat Stalinist drug addict. dodo3366, I pronounce you guilty of acute and terminal ignorance, and sentence you to "ten years drugs." And since when does Lance surround himself with the likes of you?
JonesyJackson 2 years ago
the culture of cycling is something we will never understand...best just to enjoy the drama within the drama
boshintang 2 years ago
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You people need to read about Lance Armstrong's 1999 EPO test or his relationship with notorious blood doping doctor Michele Ferrari.
This guy is an absolute cheater, jerk, and publicity hound.
DTDB1225 2 years ago
sexboy/ seriously? wat do u think ur cool that u lost ur virginity er something and that noone in ur 6 grade class has fucked/ lol
poopchunk3 2 years ago
Who is this Kimmage asshole?....Why would anyone make such a heartless comment about Lance & his return?
ihatenoodles 2 years ago 3
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ihatenoodles your the asshole. If anyone knows about the shit that goes on in cycling it's a former pro like Paul Kimmage. your probably one of these gullible fucks who thinks lance was totally clean. Read Paul's book and then reassess your comments.
damoc10 2 years ago
Paul Kimmage is not a journalist with class and I will never read a book that was written with obvious frustration by someone who enjoys making others feel bad.
There are proper ways to practice decent journalism. He doesn't know them yet.
Lance Armstrong is not only a great cyclist but a great human being who deserves respect and admiration.
ihatenoodles 2 years ago 4
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So you presume to know Kimmage's motivations and deride his journalism; while making clear that you have not and intend to never actually read what he has to say.
Also Sir, I'm gravely offended by your username.
Noodles are a source of nutrition that have kept many people in this world alive.
Perhaps you don't respect noodles and would rather see those those people dead.
I don't think i'll ever respect you, Sir.
Just using Lance's logic.
hautelick 2 years ago
^^^ wow for a paddy mick, you don't even sound drunk. Thick as fuck, but stone cold sober. Might try some Jamesons... Bushmills... maybe then you will come around to the fact that Kimmage has zero in terms of journalistic, let alone cycling (lol right) credentials. What a rank twat he is, albeit mildly entertaining.
Instead of posting shite on youtube, why not fight for your country? The Real IRA might find you useful, and when you botch the pipe bomb construction, Eire shall be a fairer land.
JonesyJackson 2 years ago
Thanks for that.
I notice you launched into a barrage of insults regarding my nationality rather than offer a cogent argument on the issue at hand.
Which says it all, really.
I shall pour myself a drink, perhaps a fine whiskey distilled in this fair land, and ruminate on the knowledge contained in your well thought out reply.
Or maybe not.
hautelick 2 years ago 3
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yeah drink, fuck your sister, do wtf ever. haha ride a bike for once in your life even -- but i'll switch out with EPO all day every day and you can't stop us
JonesyJackson 2 years ago
you need help...
dodo3366 2 years ago
True, but only because I hate needles.
JonesyJackson 2 years ago
"Leave me in peace; everybody takes dope." -- French cyclist Jacques Anquetil
"Doping? What doping? Did he or did he not make them play the Marseillaise abroad?" -- Général Charles de Gaulle
JonesyJackson 2 years ago
Kimmage is a bitter man. 3 decades later he is still pissed off that he was nt good enough to be pro
dbokboy 2 years ago 6
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kimmage was a pro he was notorious in the peleton for trying to tour a tour a l'eau[on water].-this was considered ridulous at the time and it seems like it still is..unfortunately.
dodo3366 2 years ago
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Paul Kimmage is one of my new heroes. Lance Armstrong is a fraud.
DTDB1225 2 years ago
LMAOOOOOOOO!!! You say that he is a fraud and yet you watch vids on youtube about him??
Pierre06424 2 years ago 3
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i think lance is a foolish man,he seems to surround himself with very weak beavis and butthead style characters.
dodo3366 2 years ago
In 1999, Bassons wrote that leader Lance Armstrong approached him and suggested that he leave the race. "Armstrong told me: Why don't you just go away?"
According to Christophe Bassons, there had been one day where a number of riders wanted to rebel against the drugs. This was the day when Lance Armstrong won the stage from Le Grand Bornand to Sestrières.
nsousa817 2 years ago
Did Lance have previous knowledge of the question? Very scathing response from him, but Kimmage was very much out of line.
koos987654 2 years ago
lance has been targeted by this anti doping people! in the process they become addicted and obssesed, poor people, you cant put, a good man down!!
dessam2 2 years ago 4
watch your mouth Paul!!!
dessam2 2 years ago 2
self righteous twat armstrong
allybelge 2 years ago
Sunday Times is a shit paper. They are incapable of writing a balanced article where Lance Armstrong is involved. Paul Kimmage is a shit sucking wanker.
herefordmsv 2 years ago 4
He was a triathlete through junior high, high school, and professionally. He had determination as a child that most kids will not have till they become adults. You knock someone down and say they cheat cause your absolutely jealous of his mental, and physical strength. if you don't like him what the point of watching the videos? just to make yourself more pissed off that you do not have what he has in all aspects of life. Grow up and focus on your own life. you might actually get something done.
DesperateTimes25 2 years ago
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lol.. i just noticedmt comments are deleted..
don't you just love censorship.
ill keep the moderator busy..
So:
Lance: did dope, he didn't deserve his career wich is based on deception intimidation and blackmail, he lies to everyones face everyday and ppl love him for it, is a disgrace to cycling,
wait! i have a great idea..
L.A. should become the next US president!
Better, faster, stronger - lier, cheater, doper.
DownLowProductions 2 years ago
You really have no class whatsoever. Why don't you stay in the Netherlands and just keep your mouth shot.
DesperateTimes25 2 years ago
DownLow Productions truly lives up to his alias.
dzee127 2 years ago
I dont think this guy does anything. Hes so against doping and goes out of his was to speak against that if he did it would be too much to loose, he'd loose all his validility and so would his cancer message. Most of the guys that do get caught arnt too much in the spotlight and keep quiet so they dont make asses of themselves when they get caught.
211123436 2 years ago
one word...CHEAT...hes been lucky his hand hasnt been caught in the cookie jar...hes always one step ahead with his frozen urine...
CELTOO 2 years ago
phh. wise up
racketer 2 years ago
oh come on! tht frozen urine has been used already! nobody stop them to find the proof! still they got nothing! he is good! in wht he is doing! u cant destroy a good man!!
dessam2 2 years ago 3
fuck all you hatin' ass little virgins!!!! LANCE IS THE BEST !!!! $ EVER !!! FUCK YA'LL ! h ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hah a ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
yeaheverday 2 years ago
Very low of Kimmage to use the word "Cancer", when Armstrong has suffered from that....as many have.
Lance dopes, as all pro cyclists do!
But so low of Kimmage to describe Armstrong as a "cancer"
And I have to admire Armstrong for being such a cool headed individual and just rising above the whole question.
But he dopes, they all dope.
Year after year riders are caught and some admit to it...it's just silly to say they don't do it.
edmonddantes64 2 years ago
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Lance Armstrong ultimate example of blindness to who the conspirators who will execute him in the next days.
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Lance Armstrong like Floyd Landis and Jan Urllrich were or like Usain Bolt will be. Victims of a conspiracy set up by WADA, or better said, by the US and EU "governments" all controlled by the illuminati.
Goals include:
- advance the BIG PHARMA agendas
- terrorize citîzens
- destroy natural sportsGoogle
doping conspiracy Matt Marriott
Truth666 2 years ago