FUCK. Every time I think I'm going to finish this episode, the Dalek Emperor has his "The Dalek race died in your inferno. But my ship survived. Falling through time, crippled, but alive." line, and I have to go back and replay that fucking scene about 30 times because the intonation is absolutely perfectly evil.
It was great to see the Dalek Emperor again after all these years, although I wish they'd used his original design from the Dalek comics (a golden casing with a large spheroid head section and three globes on each panel), because that version of the Emperor could actually move.
@Zimplony im guessing so, as they say "evil of the daleks" is the last dalek story chronologically before the time war as the dalek emperor is seen surviving the events of that story i guess his next move was to invade gallifrey
@MrKakuzukun ...in the Resurrection of the Daleks, I think it's that one, the one with Sylvester McCoy, Davros has the Imperial Daleks....and when the Hand of Omega backfires and returns to the Mother Ship...Davros makes a run for his escape pod, while the Imperial Daleks are saying "Emperor abandoning ship"...maybe it was a one off...
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Hail the Doctor THE GREAT EXTERMINATOR!! That is an awesome supervillian move right there - force your mortal adversary, a paragon of good, to destroy an entire race just to watch him squirm.
Doctor: "I think your forgetting something. I'm doctor and one thing i can is talk. i got 5 billion languages and you only got one way of stoping me. So anybody that got to shut up IS YOU".
3:00. I've always believed this to be one of the most EPIC moments in -all- Doctor Who history, new series' or old. And the Emperor was going to win, as well. Rose becomes Deus Ex Machina; basically through the will of the TARDIS, but still. Davros wanted to destroy reality, but the Dalek Emperor literally wanted to conquer the universe, the old fashioned way; and the Doctor took the notion dead seriously.
He survived the Time War, but continued the fight against evil in all its forms. Rose gave him a new lease of life - and he gave it all up to save her
@Planetbomb2 indeed it was, i was scared when i watched this, it gave that scary appeal as if this was a real event and the daleks acted as if they were actually alive, not like in series 3+ they're not the same anymore...
I think he was just not willing to accept the fact he was going to die...after all he stared into they eye of harmony and gained all of the knowledge of a time lord and i think in that one single moment he saw what awaited for all things after death and did not like it.
The way I see it: The Daleks must win and detonate the reality bomb in some reality since the multiverse is infinite with all probabilities occuring. However, thats the flaw in Davros's plan...the fact there are infinitely spawning universes therefore they can never be all destroyed. In short, the Daleks can erase all matter in our universe, the wavelength can destroy other universes as well, BUT it cannot destroy all universes as creation is inifinately large.. thats my opinion anyway
Ladies ladies please! at the end of the day your both making tits of urselfs by arguing over this. i dont know if anyone has told you this yet but... its not real. sorry guys.
no he is he has only his head in the classic series he keeps losing body parts but in stolen earth journeys end he has his body back again how did he do that probably grew himself a body then again he might be disguising himself like in revelation of the daleks where he calls himself the great healer
its not the dalek emperor in stolen earth/journeys end that the supreme dalek, completely different, im not even sure that the dalek emperor in this clip is even part of the old series, i thought he was just one of the last surviving daleks of the time war, went insane and thought himself god and remade the daleks, but i dont know if im right on that bit or not
He may have been, because later on, when the cult of skaaro comes into it, rose mentions the emperor and they recognize him -- however the emperor may have existed in their parallel universe and not the one in which the doctor exists
well that doesn't even make sense, how can the cult of skaro exist in a parrallel universe, when the doctor knows them and they know him. Not only that but the emperor was involved in the time war and the doctor knew, theyre all in this universe. the cult of skaro built the void ship and escaped there to be sort of a time capsule so the daleks would survive. the emperor survived in a damaged ship or as he put put it 'crippled but alive'
Uh...yes it DOES make sense. There's OBVIOUSLY a Doctor in the alternate Universe. Like, duh. Of COURSE that cult of Skaaro came from the alternate Universe, because they came out of the void ship that they had used to cross the nothingness between two dimensions.
The cybermen even followed in their wake, from the alternate Universe, so the Cult of Skaaro came from the other Universe from 'The Age of Steel'. Now, how does that not make sense, smartass?
You seem to have misunderstood. I wasn't saying that THIS instance of the emperor could have been from an alternate Universe -- I was saying that there could have been another Dalek emperor in this alternate reality which the Cult of Skaaro recognized.
Because the Cult of Skaaro came from the alternate Universe and they knew who the Dalek Emperor was when Rose told them she killed him, this means that their alternate Universe MUST have had a Time war, and a Dalek Emperor, too.
yeah but thats making things way too complicated. yes there may well have been another time war etc in the alternate universe. But to intigrate that into a simple storyline such as the daleks sat in the void makes it too fluid in explination, DW storylines are usually more solid than that cos people like us will find holes in the storyline otherwise. the cult of skaaro came from the void yes, but that doesnt mean they originated from pete's world, bearing in mind the void has no space time etc
Omfg, dude, just shut the hell up -- you're a freaking idiot. It's not a theory, it's fucking obvious that there was a Dalek Emperor in the parallel Universe that they originated from too, because they fucking knew of him. You still want to try and argue with your fucking stupidity, then too bad. Accept it, you were wrong. kthxbye
oh sorry here i was thinking i was talking to someone willing to have a decent discussion. instead im talking to a cowardly child who runs away as soon as hes show a different point of view. rly difficult to try and explain things within 500 letters but hey. as i said in last comment. the doctor said in the void 'there's no light, no dark, no up, no down, no , time, no space.' so if theres no distance in the void, how do you know that the void ship came from pete's world?
I didn't say they came from Pete's world specifically, but it's an obvious assumption, BECAUSE THE DAMN CYBERMEN FOLLOWED IN THEIR WAKE. I MEAN HAVE YOU EVEN SEEN THE DAMN EPISODE WHERE THEY COME THROUGH THE VOID? I bet you haven't. If you had, you wouldn't be making yourself look so stupid right now.
i have seen the episode, god know how many times, dyou rly think id be able to argue this long without seeing the episode, how dyou think i QUOTED from those two episode 'army of ghosts' and 'doomsday' without seeing the damn thing, and if you didn't mean petes world specifically for the void ship why didnt you say, and also that doesn't make sense, because as the doctor explained in the army of ghosts the universes are stacked together, like a line of book, the gaps in between is the void...
think about this for a sceond then you might see where im comming from. In this universe, the time war went on, DW 101, the cult of skaaro was created 'above and beyond the emperor himself' made to help keep the dalek race alive, they build the void ship in this universe, the send it to the void, to act as a time capsule, set on a timer to come back, like a time capsule is supposed to , it comes back, rips a whole in the fabric on the universe, because theres no distance or space in the void....
.... the void is basically sandwiches between realities, when the void ship blasted through to this reality, the rip it made in the fabric of the universe created fault lines which were accessible from pete's world , the cybermen said they 'followed in the sphere's wake' now that doesn't mean the traipsed along behind the sphere, it means they came through the fault lines it created 'in the sphere's wake'. so the cult knew the doctor of this universe, the emperor of this universe.
Uh, but how? If they knew the Doctor and Emperor of THIS Universe and they did not COME FROM THIS Universe, then how did they know the Doctor and Emperor of THIS Universe specifically? Explain how, buddy. Since you yourself just said the void ship blasted through to this reality, meaning it must have come from another one, explain what makes you think that they knew the Doctor and Emperor of THIS universe.
ive already explained that, read my earlier comments youll find it, im saying that the void CAME FROM THIS UNIVERSE then CAME BACK TO THIS UNIVERSE, it came form here, went to the void, then came back, thats how the cult know the time war, the doctor and the emperor, they didnt come from an alternate universe, petes or otherwise, they came from this universe, ive been arguing this point from the start
think of it like making a U turn, you start where you finish, te reason i say this is that ive already explained why the sphere didnt come from petes world. and if the realities are stacked next to each other, the sphere had to be sitting between this universe and petes, if it came from any other void, it wouldnt have come out in this universe, unless it was the other adjacent universe, in which case the cybermen wouldve been able to follow cos the fault lines wouldnt be their side
you yourself said that the cult had to have come from and alternate reality with and alternate time war, an alternate emperor and an alternate doctor. That doesn't make sense, again ive said this before. according to what's been said in the episodes, theres no alternate doctor, other than now the doctor/donna, if there was another doctor, why didnt rose just find that one instead of building the dimension cannon to come through to this one, simple answer because our doctor is the only doctor
@gastrozum facepalm the cult of skaro fled this universes time war in a void ship with the genesis ark an hid in the void they then smashed back through into are universe what is their not to understand the cybermen followed through due to cracks that happened with the void ship entering the void an leaving GOT IT
@brigeboy95 yeah i know that, if you read all my comments on this, thats what i was arguing the entire time, its Kingtom0001 thats been arguing with me trying to say that there was an alternate yime war, emperor, cult of skaro, doctor etc. And all of my comments were proving him wrong and that the cult and the emperor all came from this universe, its pretty simple to understand, which was why i didn't get why Kingtom0001 had decided that everything was completely different.
now do you see what ive been trying to say from the start? if not then try re-reading all my comments from the start and you might. If you do have a counter argument or something else sensible to say im happy to listen, again im not trying to get funny with you, im just explaining my opinion on this matter as you have yours, one is a more likely and more reasonable explanation than the other, again however if you can provide sufficient and concrete enough evidence im happy to hear it
1. im not a smartass, but from what youve explained so far theres still gaps in your theory, if you can provide the right answers then im happy to accept your idea, however theres too many holes atm. For one, if there's obviously a doctor in the alternate universe, why does rose (series 4) and the torchwood of that universe always try and find the doctor from THIS universe. it's alot of trouble ripping holes in the fabric of the universe to get hold of one man when hes in their universe as well.
Because that's what truly and properly restores things to normal with Donna. For all we know, the Doctor in their Universe could be dead, or could have never met Donna.
No I think he just ranked himself, since he's only a wired-up head in Remembrance he might as well join the ranks of his creations, thus getting a more dalek-esque casing, having it full.
Davros doesnt approve of the dalek emperors he would take full power and he considers himself their creator although did anyone hear the 8th doctor audio where davros is fused with a Emperor dalek
I love the daleks. It's like someone read a description of R2D2 to the designers over the phone, but got cut off halfway through. Even though I'm pretty sure the daleks came before Star Wars.
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Lmao, this was the most rediculous thing ever, i was hopeing it was gonna be davros, then i saw that giant dalek head and i just cracked up. Absolutely pathetic idea. And why on earth are all the daleks gold? Supposed to be grey or white.
Daleks have almost always had different colors to differentiate the leaders from lower Daleks. When Davros usurped the Dalek leader in Remembrance of the Daleks, the Imperial Daleks were then white. But the older movie with Peter Cushing had red and black Daleks also.
Scrambled eggs, WTF?! It's a Dalek mutant it looks nothing like scrambled eggs! What do you think its going to look like, Elvis Presley with a meat grinder stuck to its forehead maybe?
You know, if the Daleks survive the Time War, by escaping in a Void Ship, some Time Lords must have survive by the same way! Just like The Master survive by running away
U have a point, i hope so. I bet is was de best dado his kidz and best husband. does dat mean doctor who kidz might have survive, God, he is so lonely. We humans don't last long. The amoumt of people he has meet and seen dem die. Dat must be killin him inside :(
I wish the Emperor Dalek was made into Toy by Character Options , they have proven that they can build BIG toys such as the Electronic Tardis Playset , so i dont see why they havint made an Emperor Dalek Toy which you can put toghter just like with a Tardis Playset . . . . Typical of them i souppose ! .
FUCK. Every time I think I'm going to finish this episode, the Dalek Emperor has his "The Dalek race died in your inferno. But my ship survived. Falling through time, crippled, but alive." line, and I have to go back and replay that fucking scene about 30 times because the intonation is absolutely perfectly evil.
Assasin0021 1 week ago
It was great to see the Dalek Emperor again after all these years, although I wish they'd used his original design from the Dalek comics (a golden casing with a large spheroid head section and three globes on each panel), because that version of the Emperor could actually move.
zvermilyer3 2 months ago
3 PEOPLE WERE FILLETED, PULPED, SIFTED
dalektaliban 2 months ago 3
6:59 Epic Dalek Voice
BonnySlob 3 months ago
"so that makes them...half human"
"THOSE WORDS ARE BLASPHEMY"
heh heh, i get it. clever.
Capstain259 3 months ago
cow penis
dragerdet 3 months ago
The Dalek Emperor was badass and terrifying when it started acting up its delusions of Godhood. Also remembering how hardcore Nine was :D
SinDawg030 3 months ago 2
The Dalek Emperor was badass and terrifying when it started acting up its delusions of Godhood. Also remembering how hardcore Nine was :D
SinDawg030 3 months ago
Is this the Emperor from the 2nd doctor episode?
Zimplony 4 months ago
@Zimplony im guessing so, as they say "evil of the daleks" is the last dalek story chronologically before the time war as the dalek emperor is seen surviving the events of that story i guess his next move was to invade gallifrey
jhibbitt1 2 weeks ago
why dont the emperor have a weapon..
MrKakuzukun 4 months ago
...I thought Davros was the Emperor.....
SleepWhenIamDead 4 months ago
@SleepWhenIamDead
no hes the creater, not the emperor
MrKakuzukun 4 months ago
@MrKakuzukun ...in the Resurrection of the Daleks, I think it's that one, the one with Sylvester McCoy, Davros has the Imperial Daleks....and when the Hand of Omega backfires and returns to the Mother Ship...Davros makes a run for his escape pod, while the Imperial Daleks are saying "Emperor abandoning ship"...maybe it was a one off...
SleepWhenIamDead 4 months ago
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UnknownGuy014 5 months ago
The Doctor: "You really want to think about this? Cos if I activate the signal, every living creature dies."
Dalek Emperor: "I am immortal."
The Doctor: "You wanna put that to the test?"
Dalek Emperor: "I want to see you become like me. Hail the Doctor! THE GREAT EXTERMINATOR!!"
Wow. what a comeback. And if you think about it, it works because he's wiped out the Daleks and another race before. His *own* race, in fact.
Afriboy10 5 months ago 2
Purify the earth with fire, the planet will become my temple and we will rise. THIS WILL BE OUR PARADISE!!!!
Hyperguy2000 5 months ago
FILLETED
PULPED
SIFTED
dalektaliban 5 months ago
Hail the Doctor THE GREAT EXTERMINATOR!! That is an awesome supervillian move right there - force your mortal adversary, a paragon of good, to destroy an entire race just to watch him squirm.
BigBadMonkey23 5 months ago
I'm really glad Moffat decided to reuse the Emperor's voice for the White Supreme Dalek. It's an awesome voice.
purplebananafish 5 months ago
I would look into the time vortex and Be bad wolf
roboman34 6 months ago
Okee dook
roboman34 6 months ago
THATS ONE RELIGOUS Dalek
pablotheepic 6 months ago
@pablotheepic oh dear god the dalek emperor is the founder of the westboro church!
crypto457 6 months ago
@crypto457 Please make a donation to the.....
STOP THAT DAMM DALEK
pablotheepic 6 months ago
The Doctor would make an EPIC Dalek!
NoahIdeaFilms 7 months ago
"If I am God the creator of all things then what does that make you Doctor?" Talk about epic!
MrAnonymous13000 7 months ago
The GREAT EXTERMINATOR
quentinocama 7 months ago
0:45-0:57
Doctor: "I think your forgetting something. I'm doctor and one thing i can is talk. i got 5 billion languages and you only got one way of stoping me. So anybody that got to shut up IS YOU".
skywalker071292 8 months ago 2
he returnd ohhh he died
iQuiCKsCoPeDu 8 months ago
The Doctor said it, worshippers are insane.
fenc3r 9 months ago
THEY SURVIVED THROUGH ME.
Great pants-wetting moment.
JamesOhGoodie 9 months ago
this guy being insane is wrong condiering he was above davros, the creator this is jyst sorta, aqward not trying to make a nazi reference
pizazzi 9 months ago
press 9 then press 2
MrSmithy5 9 months ago
WORSHIP HIM WORSHIP HIM WORSHIP HIM!
MrComedy01 9 months ago
3:00. I've always believed this to be one of the most EPIC moments in -all- Doctor Who history, new series' or old. And the Emperor was going to win, as well. Rose becomes Deus Ex Machina; basically through the will of the TARDIS, but still. Davros wanted to destroy reality, but the Dalek Emperor literally wanted to conquer the universe, the old fashioned way; and the Doctor took the notion dead seriously.
VampireYoshi 11 months ago 14
Dalek Emperor: I have returned. Awaiting instructions. Receiving. Za Khaladas. Lok pii. Initiating. Confirmed. For vengeance.
barisaxkid 1 year ago
Still the best Big Bad in Doctor Who!
GodComplexFish 1 year ago 2
@GodComplexFish i agree, most people might think it's Davros.
ok Davros was the god of Daleks but look at it this way:
The Dalek Emperor: Badass Commander
Davros: Cranky Old man
Don't give me wrong Davros is still cool
Anacondas101 1 year ago
He survived the Time War, but continued the fight against evil in all its forms. Rose gave him a new lease of life - and he gave it all up to save her
HITTMAN123445 1 year ago
Name of the Episode plz!
NoMenCity 1 year ago
@NoMenCity "The Parting of the Ways'
MrPsychic8472 1 year ago
@MrPsychic8472 Thank You
NoMenCity 10 months ago
If anyone's going to shut up, IT'S YOU!!!
*daleks move backwards*
Must have scared the SHIT out of them XD
peronix8 1 year ago
@peronix8 hes the only one they fear XD
LeoArctica 1 year ago
I keep thinking the Emporor was the Dalek from The Dalek. After all he could of lied about his desstruction.
GTAIVFan17 1 year ago
yeah everybody that starts believing gods become real morons!
remanuelmr 1 year ago
WOR-SHIP HIM! WOR-SHIP HIM!
whosaidsoup13 1 year ago
the whole dalek religion was stupid, but the emperor was badass in this.
It was by far the best ending of the Davies era.
ZKoftherebellion 1 year ago 9
@ZKoftherebellion well atl east they believed in a real god lol!
remanuelmr 1 year ago
@ZKoftherebellion Dalek religion ? These Daleks was scavengers, mad, they worship their emperor but still it's not a religion :/
roro21123456 1 year ago
@ZKoftherebellion Not really...it made them even more terrifying.
dd4rri3n 1 month ago
if lego and BBC make a dail.. then the Emperor could be a set
LDtheBrachio 1 year ago
all hail the dalek emperor
NICOL2K8 1 year ago
aah...i remember this episode.very good one
Planetbomb2 1 year ago
@Planetbomb2 indeed it was, i was scared when i watched this, it gave that scary appeal as if this was a real event and the daleks acted as if they were actually alive, not like in series 3+ they're not the same anymore...
LichKingBoi 1 year ago
3:05. The most awesomely over-the-top villain quote ever uttered on Doctor Who.
VampireYoshi 1 year ago
u no when they say do not interupt hey sound like there singin
peckypoo592 1 year ago
is it me or does this voice remind you of the voice in the tardis in todays episode ??
speed4demon1991 1 year ago
davros quote the emporors last 2 sentances "i will not die, i cannot die!"
ironhidewatson 1 year ago
when i heard the "they survived through me" i literally shit myself i was only 9 im 16 now XD
ironhidewatson 1 year ago
@ironhidewatson How is that possible? This episode was made 5 years ago, and you must have been 9 7 years ago
chainsawgood123 1 year ago
@chainsawgood123 i couldnt be assed for adding up plus i did know the number i preesed the wrong one i did mean 11
ironhidewatson 1 year ago
"Purify the earth with fire. The planet will become my temple and we shall rise. This will be our paradise!"
PhazonPhantom 1 year ago 4
At 5:30 the best insult delivered to the Doctor. "I want to see you become like me. Hail the Doctor, the Great Exterminator!" I miss the God-Emperor.
rlkitterman 1 year ago 3
BADWOLF=Davros
The emporor back in 05 sort of gave that away for me
LiamXDXD 1 year ago
@LiamXDXD nah it was the tardis
kaneinite4eva 1 year ago
was the dalek emperor ever in any other episodes in the older series or was this his only story-line?
superFrontrunner 1 year ago
@superFrontrunner There are lots of different Dalek Emperors in the old series. It's unclear if this is one of them.
Lightice1 1 year ago
He was also in the Evil of the Daleks episodes, thought not all of the epsiodes of that series has survived the years.
FrozenAirStudio 1 year ago
(He has also been in some Big Finish audio adventures i think but some may contain Davros as the Emperor)
FrozenAirStudio 1 year ago
Every single atom of your excistance and I divide them. LMAO, PWNED!!!
xenmaku 2 years ago 3
I will not die......I CAN NOT DIE.
I think he was just not willing to accept the fact he was going to die...after all he stared into they eye of harmony and gained all of the knowledge of a time lord and i think in that one single moment he saw what awaited for all things after death and did not like it.
TheDeviantLord 2 years ago
@TheDeviantLord Er...when did the Dalek Emperor stare into the Eye of Harmony?
Kaagh178 9 months ago
this is my theory in the end of time the leader of the sycorax returns as we never realy saw him die or the emperor or davros return
F6121H 2 years ago
I love it when he says this is the truth of god
sailorcuteness 2 years ago 3
@sailorcuteness Me too. Loved it.
Slowshyy 1 year ago
The way I see it: The Daleks must win and detonate the reality bomb in some reality since the multiverse is infinite with all probabilities occuring. However, thats the flaw in Davros's plan...the fact there are infinitely spawning universes therefore they can never be all destroyed. In short, the Daleks can erase all matter in our universe, the wavelength can destroy other universes as well, BUT it cannot destroy all universes as creation is inifinately large.. thats my opinion anyway
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Ladies ladies please! at the end of the day your both making tits of urselfs by arguing over this. i dont know if anyone has told you this yet but... its not real. sorry guys.
Arcaneguitarist 2 years ago
The Dalek Emperor had the very same final words as Davros himself.
"I cannot die"
lolfearme 2 years ago
"THEY SURVIVED THROUGH ME"
:D
Noimnotyouarenoob 2 years ago
Is anyone excited for Chrisopher Eccleston in GI JOE this summer?
polgarfan 2 years ago
Lol OWNED at 0:56!
doctorwhoobawooba 2 years ago
I just realized how much better this finale was now.
someone332 2 years ago
The emperor has an awesome voice!
etak00 2 years ago 64
Captain Jack looks so young..
MrPsychic8472 2 years ago
The daleks always hav a chance too kill the doctor der always right infront of him wen hes powerless but they never do it.. dats what i dnt get
mossbournegoodie 2 years ago 3
no he is he has only his head in the classic series he keeps losing body parts but in stolen earth journeys end he has his body back again how did he do that probably grew himself a body then again he might be disguising himself like in revelation of the daleks where he calls himself the great healer
timedragontheater 2 years ago
how did he lose his body?
superwilldonaghue 2 years ago
its not the dalek emperor in stolen earth/journeys end that the supreme dalek, completely different, im not even sure that the dalek emperor in this clip is even part of the old series, i thought he was just one of the last surviving daleks of the time war, went insane and thought himself god and remade the daleks, but i dont know if im right on that bit or not
gastrozum 2 years ago 2
He may have been, because later on, when the cult of skaaro comes into it, rose mentions the emperor and they recognize him -- however the emperor may have existed in their parallel universe and not the one in which the doctor exists
Kingtom0001 2 years ago
well that doesn't even make sense, how can the cult of skaro exist in a parrallel universe, when the doctor knows them and they know him. Not only that but the emperor was involved in the time war and the doctor knew, theyre all in this universe. the cult of skaro built the void ship and escaped there to be sort of a time capsule so the daleks would survive. the emperor survived in a damaged ship or as he put put it 'crippled but alive'
gastrozum 2 years ago
Uh...yes it DOES make sense. There's OBVIOUSLY a Doctor in the alternate Universe. Like, duh. Of COURSE that cult of Skaaro came from the alternate Universe, because they came out of the void ship that they had used to cross the nothingness between two dimensions.
The cybermen even followed in their wake, from the alternate Universe, so the Cult of Skaaro came from the other Universe from 'The Age of Steel'. Now, how does that not make sense, smartass?
Kingtom0001 2 years ago
You seem to have misunderstood. I wasn't saying that THIS instance of the emperor could have been from an alternate Universe -- I was saying that there could have been another Dalek emperor in this alternate reality which the Cult of Skaaro recognized.
Because the Cult of Skaaro came from the alternate Universe and they knew who the Dalek Emperor was when Rose told them she killed him, this means that their alternate Universe MUST have had a Time war, and a Dalek Emperor, too.
Kingtom0001 2 years ago
yeah but thats making things way too complicated. yes there may well have been another time war etc in the alternate universe. But to intigrate that into a simple storyline such as the daleks sat in the void makes it too fluid in explination, DW storylines are usually more solid than that cos people like us will find holes in the storyline otherwise. the cult of skaaro came from the void yes, but that doesnt mean they originated from pete's world, bearing in mind the void has no space time etc
gastrozum 2 years ago
Omfg, dude, just shut the hell up -- you're a freaking idiot. It's not a theory, it's fucking obvious that there was a Dalek Emperor in the parallel Universe that they originated from too, because they fucking knew of him. You still want to try and argue with your fucking stupidity, then too bad. Accept it, you were wrong. kthxbye
Kingtom0001 2 years ago
oh sorry here i was thinking i was talking to someone willing to have a decent discussion. instead im talking to a cowardly child who runs away as soon as hes show a different point of view. rly difficult to try and explain things within 500 letters but hey. as i said in last comment. the doctor said in the void 'there's no light, no dark, no up, no down, no , time, no space.' so if theres no distance in the void, how do you know that the void ship came from pete's world?
gastrozum 2 years ago
I didn't say they came from Pete's world specifically, but it's an obvious assumption, BECAUSE THE DAMN CYBERMEN FOLLOWED IN THEIR WAKE. I MEAN HAVE YOU EVEN SEEN THE DAMN EPISODE WHERE THEY COME THROUGH THE VOID? I bet you haven't. If you had, you wouldn't be making yourself look so stupid right now.
Kingtom0001 2 years ago
i have seen the episode, god know how many times, dyou rly think id be able to argue this long without seeing the episode, how dyou think i QUOTED from those two episode 'army of ghosts' and 'doomsday' without seeing the damn thing, and if you didn't mean petes world specifically for the void ship why didnt you say, and also that doesn't make sense, because as the doctor explained in the army of ghosts the universes are stacked together, like a line of book, the gaps in between is the void...
gastrozum 2 years ago
think about this for a sceond then you might see where im comming from. In this universe, the time war went on, DW 101, the cult of skaaro was created 'above and beyond the emperor himself' made to help keep the dalek race alive, they build the void ship in this universe, the send it to the void, to act as a time capsule, set on a timer to come back, like a time capsule is supposed to , it comes back, rips a whole in the fabric on the universe, because theres no distance or space in the void....
gastrozum 2 years ago
.... the void is basically sandwiches between realities, when the void ship blasted through to this reality, the rip it made in the fabric of the universe created fault lines which were accessible from pete's world , the cybermen said they 'followed in the sphere's wake' now that doesn't mean the traipsed along behind the sphere, it means they came through the fault lines it created 'in the sphere's wake'. so the cult knew the doctor of this universe, the emperor of this universe.
gastrozum 2 years ago
Uh, but how? If they knew the Doctor and Emperor of THIS Universe and they did not COME FROM THIS Universe, then how did they know the Doctor and Emperor of THIS Universe specifically? Explain how, buddy. Since you yourself just said the void ship blasted through to this reality, meaning it must have come from another one, explain what makes you think that they knew the Doctor and Emperor of THIS universe.
Kingtom0001 2 years ago
ive already explained that, read my earlier comments youll find it, im saying that the void CAME FROM THIS UNIVERSE then CAME BACK TO THIS UNIVERSE, it came form here, went to the void, then came back, thats how the cult know the time war, the doctor and the emperor, they didnt come from an alternate universe, petes or otherwise, they came from this universe, ive been arguing this point from the start
gastrozum 2 years ago
think of it like making a U turn, you start where you finish, te reason i say this is that ive already explained why the sphere didnt come from petes world. and if the realities are stacked next to each other, the sphere had to be sitting between this universe and petes, if it came from any other void, it wouldnt have come out in this universe, unless it was the other adjacent universe, in which case the cybermen wouldve been able to follow cos the fault lines wouldnt be their side
gastrozum 2 years ago
you yourself said that the cult had to have come from and alternate reality with and alternate time war, an alternate emperor and an alternate doctor. That doesn't make sense, again ive said this before. according to what's been said in the episodes, theres no alternate doctor, other than now the doctor/donna, if there was another doctor, why didnt rose just find that one instead of building the dimension cannon to come through to this one, simple answer because our doctor is the only doctor
gastrozum 2 years ago
@gastrozum facepalm the cult of skaro fled this universes time war in a void ship with the genesis ark an hid in the void they then smashed back through into are universe what is their not to understand the cybermen followed through due to cracks that happened with the void ship entering the void an leaving GOT IT
brigeboy95 5 months ago
@brigeboy95 yeah i know that, if you read all my comments on this, thats what i was arguing the entire time, its Kingtom0001 thats been arguing with me trying to say that there was an alternate yime war, emperor, cult of skaro, doctor etc. And all of my comments were proving him wrong and that the cult and the emperor all came from this universe, its pretty simple to understand, which was why i didn't get why Kingtom0001 had decided that everything was completely different.
gastrozum 5 months ago
@gastrozum ahh sorry mixed you up lol
brigeboy95 5 months ago
now do you see what ive been trying to say from the start? if not then try re-reading all my comments from the start and you might. If you do have a counter argument or something else sensible to say im happy to listen, again im not trying to get funny with you, im just explaining my opinion on this matter as you have yours, one is a more likely and more reasonable explanation than the other, again however if you can provide sufficient and concrete enough evidence im happy to hear it
gastrozum 2 years ago
1. im not a smartass, but from what youve explained so far theres still gaps in your theory, if you can provide the right answers then im happy to accept your idea, however theres too many holes atm. For one, if there's obviously a doctor in the alternate universe, why does rose (series 4) and the torchwood of that universe always try and find the doctor from THIS universe. it's alot of trouble ripping holes in the fabric of the universe to get hold of one man when hes in their universe as well.
gastrozum 2 years ago
Because that's what truly and properly restores things to normal with Donna. For all we know, the Doctor in their Universe could be dead, or could have never met Donna.
Kingtom0001 2 years ago
although hes also part emperor in rememberance of the daleks
timedragontheater 2 years ago
no he's not part emperror in remeberence that's just a disguise so the Doctor won't notice him (I think)
Peadarisback 2 years ago
No I think he just ranked himself, since he's only a wired-up head in Remembrance he might as well join the ranks of his creations, thus getting a more dalek-esque casing, having it full.
doctorwhoobawooba 2 years ago
Davros doesnt approve of the dalek emperors he would take full power and he considers himself their creator although did anyone hear the 8th doctor audio where davros is fused with a Emperor dalek
timedragontheater 2 years ago
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he fused?? when?
jjet125 2 years ago
I love the daleks. It's like someone read a description of R2D2 to the designers over the phone, but got cut off halfway through. Even though I'm pretty sure the daleks came before Star Wars.
FireofSekhmet 3 years ago
if i could change my voice id want the emperors!
brawn777 3 years ago 30
he is god
jjet2 3 years ago
I love the Dalek Emperor's eye, it's so interesting to look at.
stewiegriffin1963 3 years ago
His real one or meichanical one?
gfahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 3 years ago
do not interupt
jjet2 3 years ago
Bad wolf rose rules doctor was ok to
TheDoctor99999 3 years ago
Make you wonder if he used temrol shift
johnnygamer95 3 years ago
Yeah it would be cool to see him again
johnnygamer95 3 years ago
technically and Sadly Rose had power of time ,space ,and basically reality at her command.
I doubt he got away.
leeacher2k 3 years ago
he probaly did hell be back hes one of doctor whos rivals like the master.
78184746546 3 years ago
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Lmao, this was the most rediculous thing ever, i was hopeing it was gonna be davros, then i saw that giant dalek head and i just cracked up. Absolutely pathetic idea. And why on earth are all the daleks gold? Supposed to be grey or white.
avfcmonk 3 years ago
The Dalek Emperor was always a giant Dalek head conected to the control ship. And they can make the Daleks whatever colour they want.
LaserScrewdriver 3 years ago
Daleks have almost always had different colors to differentiate the leaders from lower Daleks. When Davros usurped the Dalek leader in Remembrance of the Daleks, the Imperial Daleks were then white. But the older movie with Peter Cushing had red and black Daleks also.
happytravelling 3 years ago
yeah, rofl dalek's insides look like scrambled eggs
michaelthonger 3 years ago
Scrambled eggs, WTF?! It's a Dalek mutant it looks nothing like scrambled eggs! What do you think its going to look like, Elvis Presley with a meat grinder stuck to its forehead maybe?
stewiegriffin1963 3 years ago 3
has any one uploaded this episode
yoman9854 3 years ago
awesome!
utube1226 3 years ago 2
...well- the plot just went to bullshit.
supergodzilla1 3 years ago
i love it sooooooo much
mrjames9999 3 years ago 4
You know, if the Daleks survive the Time War, by escaping in a Void Ship, some Time Lords must have survive by the same way! Just like The Master survive by running away
Rushour717 3 years ago 5
U have a point, i hope so. I bet is was de best dado his kidz and best husband. does dat mean doctor who kidz might have survive, God, he is so lonely. We humans don't last long. The amoumt of people he has meet and seen dem die. Dat must be killin him inside :(
Josieluvsyou 3 years ago 2
I wish the Emperor Dalek was made into Toy by Character Options , they have proven that they can build BIG toys such as the Electronic Tardis Playset , so i dont see why they havint made an Emperor Dalek Toy which you can put toghter just like with a Tardis Playset . . . . Typical of them i souppose ! .
Cheers , Jason [ Doctor Who One ]
doctorwhoone 3 years ago 6