You don't want to call racists, racists? It's pretty clear they're racists, perhaps not with ill intent but they are making their decisions not to rent based on the race of the individual, that is pretty much the definition of racism.
@0hmyy0utubeusername The test is usually having a family member as hoshonin in Japan - this means Koreans and Chinese often can rent where pure foreigners with no can't. It's not as simple as pure race.
I love japan but they just go to far...ughhh.!!! I want an apartment but i don't want to deal with the STUPID fees that they give you... I know they don't like white people that much... but what about mexicans???
Nice video but I've always been lucky when it comes to finding apartments in Japan. I first lived in apartments that my company found for me but later on I found a cheaper apartment by myself. I found a real estate agent in Chiba who likes to help foreigners find apartments. As for the guarantor, I used a guarantor company set up for foreigners who don't have one. Now I'm staying in a Leo Palace. It's a bit expensive but it's semi furnished and has free high speed internet.
I am not a single person - I have a family. I have Bachelors and Masters in English and we want to move to Japan - how would I go about getting employment, finding a home etc?
Yeah i knew they had big thing about garbage for all the anime i watch separate burnable from unburnables. . .the closet thing to that is recycling cans, papers, and electronics, and landscaping(grass, leaves,etc) and you pay a fee if ur living house in the states. . .so i don't mind
Sorry, don't mean to disparage all your good efforts, here. Just wanted to tell you that ANY background music, then you are trying to learn all you can about a foreign culture, is really hard to take in.
you and everyone on youtube knows absolutely nothing about japanese people. just by watching you video and reading the subtitles you have lived in the "past" generation of japanese culture.
In this generation I found that people are more open to foriegners they are just shy thats all. oh and ps my rent is 30,000yen (air con, OWN apartment, 40 mins away from shinjyuku and is next to a japanese exchange school). THAT is cheaper then where i live in london. nobody goes through estate agents
@LightInfection infact not even japanese people go through estate agents , unless they want to buy a house or flat etc. you never even mentioned once about checking on the web? huge competition = cheaper rent. great advice simon (roles eyes), you obviously being living ten years with your head in the sand
@strati5 Well, there are gaijin house specialist real estate offices, and for normal apartments, openness to gaijins varies - in 8 moves within Tokyo, my experience is that roughly 80% of landlords won't allow any foreigners - which is disheartening, but the remaining 20% still leaves a lot to choose from. They key after that is sorting out a guarantor. Incidentally, I have had friends in Kyushu and rural towns that have not been able to find normal accommodation at all, and end up in dorms.
I plan to go to Japan for college in 2 years, and I planned on living in an apartment while going to college. You mentioned that the college acts as a guarantor, would that work if I wasn't living in the dorm too?
One of the reasons Japanese landlord dislike foreign tenants is as you said "mendokusai." "Feudalistic landlords" think they are the "lord," and consider tenants as peasants or sheeps. So, they dislike foreigners because they think foreigners will assert their rights. Standing up for their rights and being assertive is good thing in the West, especially English speaking countries but they are not good things in Japan, actually... I avoided Japanese landlords in Canada because of this.
Great video! I've been wanting to live in Japan for as long as I can remember and this video has just inspired me to actually make definite plans to go. It looks like such an amazing and unique country, so different to anything we have over here. Thanks so much for the upload.
I went to japan and it was a wierd place to be in my opinion, it almost felt like living in some strange dream cartoon world full of wacky things. Alot of the things I saw in japan as regards to cartoons would be considered just plain wrong over here in the U.K . I can't realy see why people wanna move to an already overcrouded and high cost country, The technology is great over there but anything good ends up over here anyway so think 1 trip to Japan is enough for me :)
How are you doing? I've come to find your video after looking to learn Japanese Sign Language!
Eh, to be honest with you, I'm looking for apartment with reasonable price like 55,000 Yen. It's far not enough for me to save it a whole lot.
So..I plan on to live there for only three years. I wouldn't be surprise if I ending up stay there longer! I hope you can help me to make my life there in Japan much easier! Sayonara!
I've become very interested in East Asian culture, and i really hope one year i will be able to travel to all countries.
Japan worries me a bit though. A lot of people say that Japanese people would rather have all foreigners leave and that they do not like them very much. I know that its absurd to think that an entire country hates foreigners, but i was just wondering with your experience as a foreigner, is there a great dislike of foreigners in Japan.
In my 11 years living in Japan as a foreigner, I can say there is no great dislike of foreigners. In fact, if anything, foreigners, particularly exotic ones like white and black foreigners, often get more doors open and more opportunities than ordinary Japanese. A few racist people exist, but Japanese are not very race-conscious as a country. It is easy to date and marry Japanese, and I think most people are very open minded and friendly toward foreigners.
Just to add - the main thing to remember is that 90% of Japanese have no real sense of national pride. This makes them very interested in other countries. Of the 10% or so who are nationalists, most of those like foreigners too, if only to discuss shared love of Japan. A very small minority of extremists, like neo-nazi types don't like foreigners, but even then, target large minorities like Koreans, Chinese and Brazilians.
@Hikosaemon Don't just make up statistics bro. Also, from my own experiences I would fully disagree and say that in my sample a strong 60%+ showed a lot of nationalistic sentiment, in the form of speaking everything in terms of the japanese people's group 我々日本人 and the outside world, speaking in this way repeatedly on many different topics with no clear relations to japan. It always comes back to how things are in japan and how the japanese people are, this is strong nationalism my friend.
@0hmyy0utubeusername I think you're making up statistics now, cuz. Plus, I would distinguish being domestic-oriented/oriented from being nationalistic. They can overlap, but they're different things. You won't many Japanese who would consider ever joining the armed forces or fighting in Japan. SDF are generally and unfairly looked at as losers. Teachers oppose singing the anthem. The country couldn't even agree on having a flag until 10 years ago.
@0hmyy0utubeusername That's not to say that right wingers don't exist. They are obvious of course - but they are a small bunch of outcasts within the society - and not always purely what they appear to be either.
@Hikosaemon The world view is strictly tied to the fact that they are japanese and the brainwashing is quite strong imo. Imagine a Canadian or Australian speaking the same way (and dont make an excuse about the language, Im going for jlpt 1 this year and understand enough japanese to know better), they would be thought of extremists, better yet imagine germans speaking that way again... We Germans do things this way, in Germany we look at things this way. Nationalism isan outdated mental prison.
@0hmyy0utubeusername Australia and Canada think as they do about multiculturalism because they needed widescale immigration in order to complete the colonization of those countries and displacement of the indigenous peoples. As a Kiwi, I benefitted from that too. But you could argue that the use of "multiculturalism" by colonial governments wasn't a virtue, but used to wipe out indigenous peoples without their consent. Japan wasn't colonized by anyone, so it has a different world view
@0hmyy0utubeusername All that said, of course I think the practice of refusing tenants based on nationality is wrong and should be wiped out - but point is if you come to Japan, you've got no choice but be ready to deal with it. Whinging just alienates the people trying to help you, and being a crappy tenant makes it worse for the gaijins that follow. There are guys like Debito Arudou who dedicate their lives to fighting these laws - you're welcome to join his groups if you want to.
@Hikosaemon About my "statistics", I was only referring to my own sample. But no I agree with you on most points. I will not deal with the issue of nationalism here because it would be too long winded.But when it comes to the legalized discrimination of foreigners in Japan, "whining" about discrimination is actually precisely what needs to be done. Alienating is precisely what is being done now my friend, the majority of houses are not available to rent for foreign tenants.
@Hikosaemon I understand that being highly active in fighting these matters will in another way make the participating foreigner seen as meiwaku, but we must ask what type of individuals will see someone who is acting in such a way as meiwaku? Those people will be the masses who simply are 洗脳された by an anti-foreigner media, and are unable to think critically for themselves. Personally I willingly alienate myself from such people anyways regardless of the country I'm in at the time.
@Hikosaemon My final point is just that issues aren't resolved for minorities without some exertion of pressure either coming from the minority group/s, or from socially-conscious members of the majority. History spells it out pretty clearly, and although I understand you may not want to be involved in such activities which is of course understandable. However knowing that in other countries, particularly your country of birth, you would be unlikely to submit to this discrimination,...
@Hikosaemon ...so even though you do not want to be active in these issues, please be upfront and honest about the situation as it is clear from any sort of standardized measure, that Japan practices systematic legally-defensible racial discrimination against minorities within the countries. I'm from America (although I am not nationalistic whatsoever and consider myself a human being who has been labelled "American"), I am very honest about the faults here, in this jingoistic police state.
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I have had a lot of experiences where I was rejected for an apartment. They always try to cover it up with a lame lie. Japanese people are racists, pure and simple. This is why I would NEVER rent to a Japanese in my home country. Turnabout is fair play right? I would rent to any other foreigner except Japanese based on the experience I had traveling around the world. You mistreat me in your country, then I will remember it. Goddamn Japs.
There are racist people in Japan - just like there are in NZ, US, Korea, India, everywhere. It doesn't make everyone racist, and it is not justification to slander and hate all Japanese. If you are bitter from your apartment hunting experiences, I'm not surprised, I am too, but if you want to start throwing around your own anti-Japanese racist comments, please start your own vlog, and make your own videos doing it.
@Wakako77 it's not the same to not rent out to a Japanese person if he/she had nothing to do with it, I can understand it's frustrating when they reject you for it. But I know for a fact that there are many Japanese people that would even offer you to stay at there house if you are friendly. I do feel sorry for you that you were treated unkindly. ^^
(if I spelled something incorrect please reply to it and forgive me English isn't my native language.)
@Hikosaemon: I live in an apartment in a city and we can still talk in a normal voice. Nonetheless, I would never have known that a softer voice is required in a Tokyo highrise. Thanks dude! 5* and subscribed.
I want to go to Japan so bad. I actually had a chance to go this upcoming summer. However, it would have been too expensive for me to go. It really stinks too because lately I have been very interested in the Japanese culture and langauge. I'm only 15 though, so hopefully I will have more chances to go in the future.
Im only 15 too and absolutely LOVE japan, their culture , the technology and their CARS!!, by senior year of highschool i will start planning to move over there =D
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here's the problem--- japanese are not actually humans. they make a good show of attempting human-like qualities; but i learned long ago japanese are actually robots.
Hmmm, not exactly. You need a visa sponsor (ie - school or employer) - and even then, you don't always get a visa, or a renewal. It varies a lot by country and by person. For info on getting a visa for Japan, you should check the web information for your nearest Japanese embassy or consulate. Best of luck!
Not necessarily - if you are not eligible for a working holiday visa or such, you need to either have a Japanese spouse, or a sponsor for a work visa. You can of course come and stay for 3 months (from most countries) on a tourist visa - that is when you can find a job. Another way to come is as a student on a student visa. You don't need a masters degree - you qualify as a high school teacher with ANY kind of degree - but you need the job first. Hope that helps.
i love japan but im onl 12 oh and some lettes on m keboad dont wok i feel bad about that but anwa how do i lean japanese fast because im goin to japan w/m dad in a few months and i know onl basics??????????please answe back if u get this comment
If you are 12, you should pick it up fast without even trying hard. I would say just get used to listening to it - check out some JPOP music and Japanese tv vids on YouTube. Maybe look at nicodouga and see all the Japanese vids there. Have a great time in Japan!
Actually, I am a native Japanese but I totally agree your opinions about racial prejudice on Japanese society. The reason of why they have the sense of discrimintation for foreigners is that they don't have enough experience to live with forigners in historically. And stil mostly Japanese population is composed by native Japanese. So I can say that Japanese society is not matured to live with foerigners.
Hello - your English is perfect, and thank you for the comment. I think that there is a problem that many Japanese apply negative stereotypes (偏見) to weak people, such as women, elderly, disabled people, and ethnic minorities like foreigners, Zainichi, Ryukyu and Ainu people, etc. Ignorance is common in every country, so Japan is not unique, and most Japanese are very considerate about these people. I believe that people who act unfairly towards 弱者 just need a little more 理解.
I still think most people are good, and I like Japanese people a lot. Generally speaking, Japanese are well mannered and very considerate, so it is disappointing when a few bad people make Japan look bad by treating weaker people badly, just like I hate it when I see a few stupid 外人 make us the majority of gaijins who are good look bad by being rude and inconsiderate. I think it is up to everyone, foreigners, Japanese, elderly, women, to enhance mutual understanding.
I am thinking about moving to Japan because I love the culture and the language. I'm learning Japanese now (it's hard living in Wisconsin) but I think this video does give some important points. I'm hoping to stay with the company that I work for and transfer there and see if they can help with housing.
Kind of helpful and I definitely agree with everything you said! I have until around next January before I have to start searching out an apartment though, luckily. ^^;
Have you heard of kimiwillbe apartments? I've been looking those up as a possibility, but I've only been able to get one other opinion on them. They're supposed to very gaijin-friendly but "normal" apartments.
what a bummer...i wanted moved out to japan (not tokyo) so i can learn proper tuning and open shop...but yea i dont think they'll take me serious and accept me. :'(
It's not like that - it's just important to understand that it's not easy, and what you can and should do to make things easier. Generally if you can get an apprenticeship, the place you are working for should be good about helping you find accommodation.
yea i guess so. im just so tired of the states, im from crimea, but im russian, and grew up in south florida (us)..whats gOing on here is just a joke..
Somehow this was the top related video for my most recent vid. :P
That's great advice man.
Getting an apartment on my own here was one of the most stressful things I've ever done in my life. The stress actually drove me ill and moaning on the floor for the first few days I lived in my new apartment.
But it's been one of the most meaningful successes of my life. My landlord is now my best friend in Japan. For those of you thinking about doing it - it's tough, but totally worth it!
Haha, I know exactly what you mean, although in my sixth place since coming to Japan now, I seem to be a glutton for punishment! Agreed, it's a draining but important part of the Japan experience!
2) Remember you need to recruit the estate agent and make them your advocate so be nice to them, no matter how frustrating it gets
3) Take your time, there's nothing worse than living in a place you rushed into chosing without realizing all the downsides and small problems in advance.
Like I say, ultimately, I think it is a good experience to do, but it can be a pretty demoralizing exercise at times.
Sorry for the slow response. Everything is relative, but compared to any other country in the world I know about, the answer is no, Japan really is the safest place on earth that I know. Which isn't to say there is no crime or that people don't worry about it, but compared to everywhere else, it hardly has any.
1) Always remember that Japan is not the only place for you to work.
2) Don't jump to conclusions based on one bad experience.
3) Don't judge or try to change things. That is what many loser gaijin do.
4) Never forget the fact that there are millions of Japanese who are pissed at other Japanese and are treated much worse by other Japanese than most gaijin here..
Remember that almost all Japanese tend to oversimplify stuff when explainining something to gaijin whether they are either speaking Japanaese or English.
@LenderSender I try and change things all the time from the people around me it works fine if you do it the right way, number 5 is alot of crap, they must be treating you like a dumb ass
Would've really assisted me if I watch it before coming to Japan! But very informative! Cheers mate! Yeah I agree with everything on your vid! I've been here just shy of seven months and the 2 months were pretty grueling! But I love Japan and managed to overcome most of the difficult problems, thanks to great friends & perseverance. I guess that why all this strictness makes Japan so advanced!
I notice you have decks/records in the background - is your apartment soundproofed, and do you get complaints about the music?
When I move back to Japan, I'll be producing music, so there'll be lots of bass/drums at high volumes sometimes, which I know will be a no no since most Japanese apartments have really thin walls.
I see your point. That could be a major issue for me as well as foreigners in Japan since I am planning of going back to Japan after I finish college here.
By the way, I like your videos becasue they show me the struggles that the foreigners in Japan are facing with. By watching those videos, I can see how foreigners think of living in Japan and that eventually allows me to understand those people better since I have some foreign friends in Japan.
Thanks man! I kind of have a policy now on this channel that I make all videos bilingual so Japanese and English speakers can watch, and if I can help people to understand each other a bit, that is cool - I think the comments on this vid in both languages are really interesting, so I will make some more like this. I'm sure you have some stories from being overseas yourself ;)
I watched your video, and it made me think of my experience in U.S. I, as an international student, found it pretty difficult to rent an apartment in U.S. because it was sometimes hard to rent an apartment without SSN. But, I am sure that it would be much more difficult for foreigners to rent an apartment in Japan.
Right, it is kind of similar to that perhaps, except that the system in Japan makes it hard even for many ordinary Japanese. For example, at the moment, many contract workers are being fired from companies, and so they have to move out of company dormitories, but most don't make enough money to save anything, which means many can't afford the up front costs needed to rent an apartment. In the next 12 months, this will become a big issue for many Japanese as much as it is for gaijins.
If you can read Japanese, there is plenty of info out there on the issues behind this. It is not uncommon for factory workers to get less than 15man a month, and even in dormitories, food and rent is still deducted from pay, so they have less than 10man per month to start with. To be unemployed and suddenly need to put up six months rent in fees to move to a new place is tough for those people, especially those unable to move back with their parents.
Contract workers are contract workers. They should have known that they could have been let go anytime as their employers pleased.
All laws are not perfect, but the media and YOU should, IMO, stop targetting companites abiding by laws and targetting guys who are not abiding by laws.
NHK subscriptions fees are such example. I have met many gaijin who totally ridicule them but who smarttalk about the issues like the one you raised.
Again, you are too much influenced by the media reporting if you truly feel sory for those contract workers.
There ARE jobs in Japan unless you are picky and extremely ill or something. It is never impossible to survive in this country
A large number of those contract workers sought freedom, which certainly involves great risk, instead of securiity, and they are paying for their choice now.
Mate, I worked in a factory in the boonies for a couple of years and have Japanese friends in precisely this situation. People don't take up contract jobs on sub 15man salaries in a parts factory in the middle of nowhere for the "freedom". They do it because it is the best they can get, and they hope of later being made a safe "seishain". This is something totally different to the freeters who work in coffee shops as a lifestyle choice that you seem to be getting this mixed up with.
And I had a good laugh about your boonies experience.
When talking with you, those "friends" of yours must have oversimplified the things they assumed they should tell you regarding their situations because of the language barrier.
Yeah, don't believe everything you hear when talking with Japanese.
And if you understand some Japanese, tell your countrymen to work harder to learn the language.
Look at those chinese guys and Koreans living here. Those guys don't mind working their asses off at convenience stores earning maybe one thirrd of what guys like you earn teaching English.
And do they make videos like this and post them on YouTube to pamper their countrymen?
Mate, I'm not targeting anyone - I'm feeling sympathy for people finding themselves in a situation that is without precedent in post-war Japan. That's it.
Oops, I used my other login! Anyway, the conclusion is to get your work or school to set it all up for you. Some companies even pay rent, and no question, that is the best solution, if you are lucky enough to get it!
I personally did things possibly the hardest way. I came working for a company but with no accommodation in place for me at all. I started staying with my girlfriend's parents (awkward...) until I could afford key money, but searching on my own was very stressful. It was a Japanese company and they didn't know what to do, and I didn't know what to ask for - hopefully this vid will help people in my position....
Thanks, I really appreciate the feedback! Well, as you probably know too, I think apartment hunting is the hardest part of being a foreigner in Japan, and I've never really seen a good vid explaining what all the issues were, so I figured hey, why not? Cheers!
Good question - like everything else, it varies by person to person. Generally speaking, things can be more awkward in smaller towns outside of Tokyo, but I know plenty of foreigners who have second homes in Shimoda, Niseko, Nagano and so on. It is certainly much better now than 10 years ago, and unless you really are trying to be a pioneer somewhere, buying or renting should be a hassle, but not impossible, as I understand it anyway.
Thanks. I was thinking about a second home somewhere rural and I take your point about being a pioneer ;o) I think I'd much rather try and fit in - why bother being in Japan if one doesn't at least try to integrate.
Thank you for the information, and thank you for your perspective.
Xenophobia is a pretty unfortunate aspect of a lot of cultures, and is perpetuated when ignored.
Bringing it up for a rational discussion like you are doing really contributes to people having a more world-centered outlook (which is always for the better).
When I first came to Japan to work, and looked for a place on my own, I looked for an apartment in Kashiwa City, near my work at the time. Very few places would rent but when I finally found a place, I was asked about my hoshounin. All I had was my company and I assumed that they would step up. However, come signing day, I get a call from work saying they wouldn't do that for me. The reason they gave was "we don't do that for Japanese staff, and we don't want to discriminate against them (!)"
Naturally I complained, but no luck, and I was going to lose the apartment. However, the president of the real estate company felt bad for me and offered to be my Hoshonin for me himeself, on condition I teach his daughter English once a week on Sundays. I was so relieved, at first I said great, thank you. But then I realized, I was working six days a week, and this would mean losing my one day off, to work for free, all so I can rent an apartment...
When I told my supervisor at work about this and how this meant I had no days off and couldn't work sundays, he flipped out on my behalf at the company, and they made a "special exemption" to be my guarantor. I ended up in a great little apartment, and began surfing on those very valuable days off. It was nice to see so many people stand up for me, but I just about got an ulcer over the stress of the whole thing. Moral of the story is to get that stuff sorted early on.
Post script - the company suggested I use a gaijin house - besides not wanting to be in a gaijin dorm, the nearest one I knew of was 2 hours commute away in central Tokyo (work was in Noda). I was a bit unnecessarily pig headed about trying to do things the "normal" way, but I learned a lot in the process, including some of the good nature of my supervisor, my real estate agent company president, and the nice landlord who rented to me. That's why I separate my garbage properly.
Yep, actually I was caught out on this - I'll post the story below, but definitely, even as a student, it can be a huge drama to get accommodation sorted out. 2 Hoshonins plus a letter of referral is a big effort! What part of Japan was that in?
Thanks man, much appreciated. I'll work on putting one of these up every half dozen vids or so. What I really appreciate is the bilingual feedback too. Really rewarding. Cheers mate.
Good Points! English: Dinosaur JP points out that Sumai Public Housing (see links) don't require guarantors and many foreigners use them so check that. There are of course foreigner specific agents too. DinosaurJpさん、コメントをありがおつございますね！
junonijo - good point, and you may have noticed I had the link for the government koudan info site in the sidebar - I didn't really have time to mention it in the vid, but if you can get in, it can be a good solution. The thing is in Tokyo there is high demand for those apartments so they are often allocated by lottery. Excellent Point! Cheers
i have green black and blue bin.. is it the same? trash, compost, and recycle?
Natsumeii 3 months ago
You don't want to call racists, racists? It's pretty clear they're racists, perhaps not with ill intent but they are making their decisions not to rent based on the race of the individual, that is pretty much the definition of racism.
0hmyy0utubeusername 8 months ago
@0hmyy0utubeusername The test is usually having a family member as hoshonin in Japan - this means Koreans and Chinese often can rent where pure foreigners with no can't. It's not as simple as pure race.
Hikosaemon 8 months ago
I love japan but they just go to far...ughhh.!!! I want an apartment but i don't want to deal with the STUPID fees that they give you... I know they don't like white people that much... but what about mexicans???
01miguel0122 8 months ago
hi man how about being a 6fut 1' tale ginger welsh-man
A. do you think they'll like me for that
2. can you please tell me how much an Apartment Ikebukuro (Tokyo) will cost vs a ginza, tokyo vs in shinjuu
3. i don't mind about size but i need somthing thats big anuff for me and one big ass bed ]
people help me ouuuut
oldlyswansea 9 months ago
THANK YOU FOR THE ENGLISH. I WISH THERE WEREN'T THE BACKGROUND MUSIC (VERY DISTRACTING), ACTUALLY. BUT THANK YOU, NONETHELESS ... ;)
GimmeKitty 1 year ago
外国人と日本人ではくくりが大きく異なるので、外国人だと様々な文化、人種をひとまとめにしているため、一部の文化圏の外国人は「料理の香辛料の臭いがすさまじいので近所のクリーニング屋から苦情が出る」、一部の文化圏の外国人は「パーティをするので深夜に騒音がする」。
これらは日本の面積が狭い為、仕方ない事態だと思います。
しかし、一部の外国人の中には「一人暮らし契約をしているのに複数人で住み込みをしている」など契約違反をしていることがあります。もちろん日本人にもそういった契約違反をしている人間がいますが、外国人の場合、２〜３人レベルではなく５〜６人レベルも平気で住み込みを行うことが比較的多い印象の為、懸念されています。
日本人でさえ引越しの際はたくさんのお金と交渉が必要になります。トラブルもあります。
kargenrock 1 year ago
Nice video but I've always been lucky when it comes to finding apartments in Japan. I first lived in apartments that my company found for me but later on I found a cheaper apartment by myself. I found a real estate agent in Chiba who likes to help foreigners find apartments. As for the guarantor, I used a guarantor company set up for foreigners who don't have one. Now I'm staying in a Leo Palace. It's a bit expensive but it's semi furnished and has free high speed internet.
gokuo64 1 year ago
good stuff!
worldtravel101 1 year ago
I am not a single person - I have a family. I have Bachelors and Masters in English and we want to move to Japan - how would I go about getting employment, finding a home etc?
chibomato78 1 year ago
Interested in how many hours are required in Cosmetology in Tokyo/Japan??? Rules etc there????
fireeeeeee 1 year ago
Yeah i knew they had big thing about garbage for all the anime i watch separate burnable from unburnables. . .the closet thing to that is recycling cans, papers, and electronics, and landscaping(grass, leaves,etc) and you pay a fee if ur living house in the states. . .so i don't mind
Ash2theB 1 year ago
Sorry, don't mean to disparage all your good efforts, here. Just wanted to tell you that ANY background music, then you are trying to learn all you can about a foreign culture, is really hard to take in.
Thanks for the information though.
I found it all to be helpful.
GimmeKitty 1 year ago
The music on is VERRRRY distracting. Sorry about that, but man ... very disconcerting.
GimmeKitty 1 year ago
you and everyone on youtube knows absolutely nothing about japanese people. just by watching you video and reading the subtitles you have lived in the "past" generation of japanese culture.
In this generation I found that people are more open to foriegners they are just shy thats all. oh and ps my rent is 30,000yen (air con, OWN apartment, 40 mins away from shinjyuku and is next to a japanese exchange school). THAT is cheaper then where i live in london. nobody goes through estate agents
LightInfection 1 year ago
@LightInfection infact not even japanese people go through estate agents , unless they want to buy a house or flat etc. you never even mentioned once about checking on the web? huge competition = cheaper rent. great advice simon (roles eyes), you obviously being living ten years with your head in the sand
LightInfection 1 year ago
結局日本は島国で鎖国の流れで異文化コミュニケーション能力において難しい部分があるのかもしれない。まず圧倒的に国民の英語力不足っていうのは原因の１つだと思うし、不動産自体が日本人も疑問を抱くような昔からのシステムが残っているものの一つ。結構これはビジネスチャンスでもあると思うのは自分だけだろうか。
htksr 1 year ago
@strati5 Well, there are gaijin house specialist real estate offices, and for normal apartments, openness to gaijins varies - in 8 moves within Tokyo, my experience is that roughly 80% of landlords won't allow any foreigners - which is disheartening, but the remaining 20% still leaves a lot to choose from. They key after that is sorting out a guarantor. Incidentally, I have had friends in Kyushu and rural towns that have not been able to find normal accommodation at all, and end up in dorms.
Hikosaemon 1 year ago
確かに外国人の全てがルールに従わなかったり話が通じないわけでもないし、日本人でもそういう輩はいるけど、もし何かが起きた場合、例えば近隣住民と揉めた場合とか家の中を荒らされた場合、日本人だったら親に連絡するとか警察に言うとか、最悪訴えることも可能だけど、外国人の場合、何かあったときに国へ逃げ帰られたら誰が責任を取るの？って話ですよ。日本の警察に言っても治外法権で自ら動けないし、現地の警察までちゃんと話が伝わったとしても、日本のルールやマナーがその国でどれだけ理解されるか分からないし、なぜそんなに日本人が怒っているのか理解してもらえないかもしれない。訴えるにしても対日本人なら日本語でいいけど、外国人の場合はこちらがその言葉を知らないとだめじゃない？
逆に言うと、その全ての問題を解決するのが保証人制度なわけで。保証人になりたくないと思うのも分かるでしょ？
でも日本の慣習をよく理解していて日本語が達者ならコミュニケーションに支障はないだろうし、国籍だけの問題じゃないとも思いますね。日本語に自信があるなら不動産屋の電話口で大家さんと直接交渉してみるのも手だと思います。
Mieta79 1 year ago
I plan to go to Japan for college in 2 years, and I planned on living in an apartment while going to college. You mentioned that the college acts as a guarantor, would that work if I wasn't living in the dorm too?
JnVcookieproductions 1 year ago
One of the reasons Japanese landlord dislike foreign tenants is as you said "mendokusai." "Feudalistic landlords" think they are the "lord," and consider tenants as peasants or sheeps. So, they dislike foreigners because they think foreigners will assert their rights. Standing up for their rights and being assertive is good thing in the West, especially English speaking countries but they are not good things in Japan, actually... I avoided Japanese landlords in Canada because of this.
BruceIno 1 year ago
Great video! I've been wanting to live in Japan for as long as I can remember and this video has just inspired me to actually make definite plans to go. It looks like such an amazing and unique country, so different to anything we have over here. Thanks so much for the upload.
Devilock79 1 year ago
I went to japan and it was a wierd place to be in my opinion, it almost felt like living in some strange dream cartoon world full of wacky things. Alot of the things I saw in japan as regards to cartoons would be considered just plain wrong over here in the U.K . I can't realy see why people wanna move to an already overcrouded and high cost country, The technology is great over there but anything good ends up over here anyway so think 1 trip to Japan is enough for me :)
deathsmate100 2 years ago
foreclosedjapan,could you see ?
ginza036327759 2 years ago
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ginza036327759 2 years ago
Hey there,
How are you doing? I've come to find your video after looking to learn Japanese Sign Language!
Eh, to be honest with you, I'm looking for apartment with reasonable price like 55,000 Yen. It's far not enough for me to save it a whole lot.
So..I plan on to live there for only three years. I wouldn't be surprise if I ending up stay there longer! I hope you can help me to make my life there in Japan much easier! Sayonara!
Arrowhokie23 2 years ago
hey.
I've become very interested in East Asian culture, and i really hope one year i will be able to travel to all countries.
Japan worries me a bit though. A lot of people say that Japanese people would rather have all foreigners leave and that they do not like them very much. I know that its absurd to think that an entire country hates foreigners, but i was just wondering with your experience as a foreigner, is there a great dislike of foreigners in Japan.
Thanks.
CMFordonFordain 2 years ago
Thanks for the comment :)
In my 11 years living in Japan as a foreigner, I can say there is no great dislike of foreigners. In fact, if anything, foreigners, particularly exotic ones like white and black foreigners, often get more doors open and more opportunities than ordinary Japanese. A few racist people exist, but Japanese are not very race-conscious as a country. It is easy to date and marry Japanese, and I think most people are very open minded and friendly toward foreigners.
Hikosaemon 2 years ago
Just to add - the main thing to remember is that 90% of Japanese have no real sense of national pride. This makes them very interested in other countries. Of the 10% or so who are nationalists, most of those like foreigners too, if only to discuss shared love of Japan. A very small minority of extremists, like neo-nazi types don't like foreigners, but even then, target large minorities like Koreans, Chinese and Brazilians.
Hikosaemon 2 years ago
@Hikosaemon Don't just make up statistics bro. Also, from my own experiences I would fully disagree and say that in my sample a strong 60%+ showed a lot of nationalistic sentiment, in the form of speaking everything in terms of the japanese people's group 我々日本人 and the outside world, speaking in this way repeatedly on many different topics with no clear relations to japan. It always comes back to how things are in japan and how the japanese people are, this is strong nationalism my friend.
0hmyy0utubeusername 8 months ago
@0hmyy0utubeusername I think you're making up statistics now, cuz. Plus, I would distinguish being domestic-oriented/oriented from being nationalistic. They can overlap, but they're different things. You won't many Japanese who would consider ever joining the armed forces or fighting in Japan. SDF are generally and unfairly looked at as losers. Teachers oppose singing the anthem. The country couldn't even agree on having a flag until 10 years ago.
Hikosaemon 8 months ago
@0hmyy0utubeusername That's not to say that right wingers don't exist. They are obvious of course - but they are a small bunch of outcasts within the society - and not always purely what they appear to be either.
Hikosaemon 8 months ago
@Hikosaemon The world view is strictly tied to the fact that they are japanese and the brainwashing is quite strong imo. Imagine a Canadian or Australian speaking the same way (and dont make an excuse about the language, Im going for jlpt 1 this year and understand enough japanese to know better), they would be thought of extremists, better yet imagine germans speaking that way again... We Germans do things this way, in Germany we look at things this way. Nationalism isan outdated mental prison.
0hmyy0utubeusername 8 months ago 2
@0hmyy0utubeusername Australia and Canada think as they do about multiculturalism because they needed widescale immigration in order to complete the colonization of those countries and displacement of the indigenous peoples. As a Kiwi, I benefitted from that too. But you could argue that the use of "multiculturalism" by colonial governments wasn't a virtue, but used to wipe out indigenous peoples without their consent. Japan wasn't colonized by anyone, so it has a different world view
Hikosaemon 8 months ago
@0hmyy0utubeusername All that said, of course I think the practice of refusing tenants based on nationality is wrong and should be wiped out - but point is if you come to Japan, you've got no choice but be ready to deal with it. Whinging just alienates the people trying to help you, and being a crappy tenant makes it worse for the gaijins that follow. There are guys like Debito Arudou who dedicate their lives to fighting these laws - you're welcome to join his groups if you want to.
Hikosaemon 8 months ago
@Hikosaemon About my "statistics", I was only referring to my own sample. But no I agree with you on most points. I will not deal with the issue of nationalism here because it would be too long winded.But when it comes to the legalized discrimination of foreigners in Japan, "whining" about discrimination is actually precisely what needs to be done. Alienating is precisely what is being done now my friend, the majority of houses are not available to rent for foreign tenants.
0hmyy0utubeusername 8 months ago
@Hikosaemon I understand that being highly active in fighting these matters will in another way make the participating foreigner seen as meiwaku, but we must ask what type of individuals will see someone who is acting in such a way as meiwaku? Those people will be the masses who simply are 洗脳された by an anti-foreigner media, and are unable to think critically for themselves. Personally I willingly alienate myself from such people anyways regardless of the country I'm in at the time.
0hmyy0utubeusername 8 months ago
@Hikosaemon My final point is just that issues aren't resolved for minorities without some exertion of pressure either coming from the minority group/s, or from socially-conscious members of the majority. History spells it out pretty clearly, and although I understand you may not want to be involved in such activities which is of course understandable. However knowing that in other countries, particularly your country of birth, you would be unlikely to submit to this discrimination,...
0hmyy0utubeusername 8 months ago
@Hikosaemon ...so even though you do not want to be active in these issues, please be upfront and honest about the situation as it is clear from any sort of standardized measure, that Japan practices systematic legally-defensible racial discrimination against minorities within the countries. I'm from America (although I am not nationalistic whatsoever and consider myself a human being who has been labelled "American"), I am very honest about the faults here, in this jingoistic police state.
0hmyy0utubeusername 8 months ago
@CMFordonFordain I have been quite around the world and i have to say I have never been treated better in any other country (espacially my own :<)
I do look half asian tho, my dad had a *go back to America* shouted at him once tho. (me and my dad are from Holland.) but i shouldn't worry about it.
jiriterp 2 years ago
Hi there. I love your videos keep up the good work! apny
apny909 2 years ago
日本人の中でもまともな友達が多い人は、日本に差別はないと答えるでしょう。
でも、実際には日本人でも差別する人がいるのは真実。
一つのことで全ては語れない。
また外人といっても、さまざまな国の人がいるから、単に外人というのも違うのかな～。
日本人が改善するべき点も多くあるし、外人が改善するべき点も多くあると思う。
realismnotideology 2 years ago 5
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I have had a lot of experiences where I was rejected for an apartment. They always try to cover it up with a lame lie. Japanese people are racists, pure and simple. This is why I would NEVER rent to a Japanese in my home country. Turnabout is fair play right? I would rent to any other foreigner except Japanese based on the experience I had traveling around the world. You mistreat me in your country, then I will remember it. Goddamn Japs.
Wakako77 2 years ago
There are racist people in Japan - just like there are in NZ, US, Korea, India, everywhere. It doesn't make everyone racist, and it is not justification to slander and hate all Japanese. If you are bitter from your apartment hunting experiences, I'm not surprised, I am too, but if you want to start throwing around your own anti-Japanese racist comments, please start your own vlog, and make your own videos doing it.
Hikosaemon 2 years ago
@Wakako77 it's not the same to not rent out to a Japanese person if he/she had nothing to do with it, I can understand it's frustrating when they reject you for it. But I know for a fact that there are many Japanese people that would even offer you to stay at there house if you are friendly. I do feel sorry for you that you were treated unkindly. ^^
(if I spelled something incorrect please reply to it and forgive me English isn't my native language.)
jiriterp 2 years ago
THANK YOU!!! Good Job))
IlyaNash25 2 years ago
Why were you whispering?
LivingDog94 2 years ago
Late at night in Japanese apartments, you have to keep tv and voices down. Another adjustment to living in highrise apartment blocks in Tokyo.
Hikosaemon 2 years ago
@Hikosaemon: I live in an apartment in a city and we can still talk in a normal voice. Nonetheless, I would never have known that a softer voice is required in a Tokyo highrise. Thanks dude! 5* and subscribed.
LivingDog94 2 years ago
I want to go to Japan so bad. I actually had a chance to go this upcoming summer. However, it would have been too expensive for me to go. It really stinks too because lately I have been very interested in the Japanese culture and langauge. I'm only 15 though, so hopefully I will have more chances to go in the future.
Amutofan123 2 years ago
Im only 15 too and absolutely LOVE japan, their culture , the technology and their CARS!!, by senior year of highschool i will start planning to move over there =D
dominicanboy12 2 years ago
good luck geting the visa :s
mindbotling 2 years ago
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here's the problem--- japanese are not actually humans. they make a good show of attempting human-like qualities; but i learned long ago japanese are actually robots.
MargaritasAntesPorco 2 years ago
外国人の方にオススメなのはＵＲ都市機構です。
敷金（３ヶ月分の家賃）以外の礼金・更新料・保証人が不要。キャンペーン期間だと敷金の分割払いＯＫな時もあったり。外国人を理由に断られることはないはず。
michio1979 2 years ago
コメントをありがとうございます！
一応ＵＲ都市機構へのリンクを情報欄に加えました。
Hikosaemon 2 years ago
知らない日本語 how would i sayt that in english? :]
gmanhero 2 years ago
Hmmm, not exactly. You need a visa sponsor (ie - school or employer) - and even then, you don't always get a visa, or a renewal. It varies a lot by country and by person. For info on getting a visa for Japan, you should check the web information for your nearest Japanese embassy or consulate. Best of luck!
Hikosaemon 2 years ago
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rsilvia1999 2 years ago
Not necessarily - if you are not eligible for a working holiday visa or such, you need to either have a Japanese spouse, or a sponsor for a work visa. You can of course come and stay for 3 months (from most countries) on a tourist visa - that is when you can find a job. Another way to come is as a student on a student visa. You don't need a masters degree - you qualify as a high school teacher with ANY kind of degree - but you need the job first. Hope that helps.
Peace
Hikosaemon 2 years ago
i love japan but im onl 12 oh and some lettes on m keboad dont wok i feel bad about that but anwa how do i lean japanese fast because im goin to japan w/m dad in a few months and i know onl basics??????????please answe back if u get this comment
dreavelgis 2 years ago
If you are 12, you should pick it up fast without even trying hard. I would say just get used to listening to it - check out some JPOP music and Japanese tv vids on YouTube. Maybe look at nicodouga and see all the Japanese vids there. Have a great time in Japan!
Hikosaemon 2 years ago
I really like your videos.
Actually, I am a native Japanese but I totally agree your opinions about racial prejudice on Japanese society. The reason of why they have the sense of discrimintation for foreigners is that they don't have enough experience to live with forigners in historically. And stil mostly Japanese population is composed by native Japanese. So I can say that Japanese society is not matured to live with foerigners.
Anyway is my English correct?
Thanks.
einousamber 2 years ago
Hello - your English is perfect, and thank you for the comment. I think that there is a problem that many Japanese apply negative stereotypes (偏見) to weak people, such as women, elderly, disabled people, and ethnic minorities like foreigners, Zainichi, Ryukyu and Ainu people, etc. Ignorance is common in every country, so Japan is not unique, and most Japanese are very considerate about these people. I believe that people who act unfairly towards 弱者 just need a little more 理解.
Hikosaemon 2 years ago
um...well.....u may not hav noticed when u wnet, but r there a lot of gundam shops in japan
jointron33 2 years ago
@jointron33 it would take you 10 years to visit them all trust me it's like disneyland but then 1million times bigger and filled with anime goodies
jiriterp 2 years ago
I still think most people are good, and I like Japanese people a lot. Generally speaking, Japanese are well mannered and very considerate, so it is disappointing when a few bad people make Japan look bad by treating weaker people badly, just like I hate it when I see a few stupid 外人 make us the majority of gaijins who are good look bad by being rude and inconsiderate. I think it is up to everyone, foreigners, Japanese, elderly, women, to enhance mutual understanding.
Peace
Hikosaemon 2 years ago
I am thinking about moving to Japan because I love the culture and the language. I'm learning Japanese now (it's hard living in Wisconsin) but I think this video does give some important points. I'm hoping to stay with the company that I work for and transfer there and see if they can help with housing.
jldyr2 2 years ago
Kind of helpful and I definitely agree with everything you said! I have until around next January before I have to start searching out an apartment though, luckily. ^^;
Have you heard of kimiwillbe apartments? I've been looking those up as a possibility, but I've only been able to get one other opinion on them. They're supposed to very gaijin-friendly but "normal" apartments.
invixus 2 years ago
nice video..
reyshare 2 years ago
i subscribed!
TheLateRiser 2 years ago
Cool, thanks!
Hikosaemon 2 years ago
what a bummer...i wanted moved out to japan (not tokyo) so i can learn proper tuning and open shop...but yea i dont think they'll take me serious and accept me. :'(
TheLateRiser 2 years ago
It's not like that - it's just important to understand that it's not easy, and what you can and should do to make things easier. Generally if you can get an apprenticeship, the place you are working for should be good about helping you find accommodation.
Peace
Hikosaemon 2 years ago
yea i guess so. im just so tired of the states, im from crimea, but im russian, and grew up in south florida (us)..whats gOing on here is just a joke..
TheLateRiser 2 years ago
Kiwi?
TOKObee 2 years ago 2
Hell yeah!
Hikosaemon 2 years ago
Somehow this was the top related video for my most recent vid. :P
That's great advice man.
Getting an apartment on my own here was one of the most stressful things I've ever done in my life. The stress actually drove me ill and moaning on the floor for the first few days I lived in my new apartment.
But it's been one of the most meaningful successes of my life. My landlord is now my best friend in Japan. For those of you thinking about doing it - it's tough, but totally worth it!
ToLokyo 2 years ago
Haha, I know exactly what you mean, although in my sixth place since coming to Japan now, I seem to be a glutton for punishment! Agreed, it's a draining but important part of the Japan experience!
Hikosaemon 2 years ago
hey saemon.. I really enjoyed this older vid of yours. I'm currently looking everywhere for an apartment. I'm having a hard time.
I think I'll post a vid about it sometime. until then.. PEACE!
Radrey 2 years ago
Ahaa, the old apartment hunting gig. My advice is
1) Have lots of money
2) Remember you need to recruit the estate agent and make them your advocate so be nice to them, no matter how frustrating it gets
3) Take your time, there's nothing worse than living in a place you rushed into chosing without realizing all the downsides and small problems in advance.
Like I say, ultimately, I think it is a good experience to do, but it can be a pretty demoralizing exercise at times.
Peace
Hikosaemon 2 years ago
is there alot of crime in Japan?
RamanWalkthrough 2 years ago
Sorry for the slow response. Everything is relative, but compared to any other country in the world I know about, the answer is no, Japan really is the safest place on earth that I know. Which isn't to say there is no crime or that people don't worry about it, but compared to everywhere else, it hardly has any.
Peace
Hikosaemon 2 years ago
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shari4minipigz 2 years ago
MY advice for guys and girls watching this video.
1) Always remember that Japan is not the only place for you to work.
2) Don't jump to conclusions based on one bad experience.
3) Don't judge or try to change things. That is what many loser gaijin do.
4) Never forget the fact that there are millions of Japanese who are pissed at other Japanese and are treated much worse by other Japanese than most gaijin here..
LenderSender 2 years ago 10
Good advice.
Cheers mate
Peace
Hikosaemon 2 years ago
5)'(NEW!)
Remember that almost all Japanese tend to oversimplify stuff when explainining something to gaijin whether they are either speaking Japanaese or English.
LenderSender 2 years ago 6
@LenderSender I try and change things all the time from the people around me it works fine if you do it the right way, number 5 is alot of crap, they must be treating you like a dumb ass
LightInfection 1 year ago
Big deal.
Just leave Japan. It is not the only place to live.
LenderSender 3 years ago
I am going the stress of finding an apartment right now. What a headache!!!!!!!!!!
mitchgara 3 years ago
このビデオ面白いジャン！
Would've really assisted me if I watch it before coming to Japan! But very informative! Cheers mate! Yeah I agree with everything on your vid! I've been here just shy of seven months and the 2 months were pretty grueling! But I love Japan and managed to overcome most of the difficult problems, thanks to great friends & perseverance. I guess that why all this strictness makes Japan so advanced!
また今度ね〜
Takeru1983 3 years ago
appreciate the insight.
SneakySolidSnake 3 years ago
i never thougth it would be that hard 2 get a apartment in tokyo. that's it i going 2 tokyo with a friend
bluespirit212 3 years ago
Hi,
I notice you have decks/records in the background - is your apartment soundproofed, and do you get complaints about the music?
When I move back to Japan, I'll be producing music, so there'll be lots of bass/drums at high volumes sometimes, which I know will be a no no since most Japanese apartments have really thin walls.
Cheers
thejakeyboi 3 years ago
I see your point. That could be a major issue for me as well as foreigners in Japan since I am planning of going back to Japan after I finish college here.
By the way, I like your videos becasue they show me the struggles that the foreigners in Japan are facing with. By watching those videos, I can see how foreigners think of living in Japan and that eventually allows me to understand those people better since I have some foreign friends in Japan.
tomboharmonica 3 years ago
Thanks man! I kind of have a policy now on this channel that I make all videos bilingual so Japanese and English speakers can watch, and if I can help people to understand each other a bit, that is cool - I think the comments on this vid in both languages are really interesting, so I will make some more like this. I'm sure you have some stories from being overseas yourself ;)
Peace
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
I watched your video, and it made me think of my experience in U.S. I, as an international student, found it pretty difficult to rent an apartment in U.S. because it was sometimes hard to rent an apartment without SSN. But, I am sure that it would be much more difficult for foreigners to rent an apartment in Japan.
tomboharmonica 3 years ago
Right, it is kind of similar to that perhaps, except that the system in Japan makes it hard even for many ordinary Japanese. For example, at the moment, many contract workers are being fired from companies, and so they have to move out of company dormitories, but most don't make enough money to save anything, which means many can't afford the up front costs needed to rent an apartment. In the next 12 months, this will become a big issue for many Japanese as much as it is for gaijins.
Peace
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
Contract workers who were fortunate e enought to live in company dormitories must have saved some money, which should be enough for starters.
LenderSender 3 years ago
If you can read Japanese, there is plenty of info out there on the issues behind this. It is not uncommon for factory workers to get less than 15man a month, and even in dormitories, food and rent is still deducted from pay, so they have less than 10man per month to start with. To be unemployed and suddenly need to put up six months rent in fees to move to a new place is tough for those people, especially those unable to move back with their parents.
Peace
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
Contract workers are contract workers. They should have known that they could have been let go anytime as their employers pleased.
All laws are not perfect, but the media and YOU should, IMO, stop targetting companites abiding by laws and targetting guys who are not abiding by laws.
NHK subscriptions fees are such example. I have met many gaijin who totally ridicule them but who smarttalk about the issues like the one you raised.
LenderSender 2 years ago
Again, you are too much influenced by the media reporting if you truly feel sory for those contract workers.
There ARE jobs in Japan unless you are picky and extremely ill or something. It is never impossible to survive in this country
A large number of those contract workers sought freedom, which certainly involves great risk, instead of securiity, and they are paying for their choice now.
LenderSender 2 years ago
Mate, I worked in a factory in the boonies for a couple of years and have Japanese friends in precisely this situation. People don't take up contract jobs on sub 15man salaries in a parts factory in the middle of nowhere for the "freedom". They do it because it is the best they can get, and they hope of later being made a safe "seishain". This is something totally different to the freeters who work in coffee shops as a lifestyle choice that you seem to be getting this mixed up with.
Hikosaemon 2 years ago
"They do it because it is the best they can get, and they hope of later being made a safe "seishain""
I musr say that you truly sound like someone who believes everything you read in the Japan Times.
The ecnomic decline begain in the 90s, and don't you think that it was ignorant of your "friends(cough, cough)" to hope to become full time staffers??
LenderSender 2 years ago
And I had a good laugh about your boonies experience.
When talking with you, those "friends" of yours must have oversimplified the things they assumed they should tell you regarding their situations because of the language barrier.
Yeah, don't believe everything you hear when talking with Japanese.
LenderSender 2 years ago
Mate, your self confidence in your knowledge is inspiring. Cheers.
Peace
Hikosaemon 2 years ago
I just laid out some facts. That's all.
The language barrior is too big a mattter.
And if you understand some Japanese, tell your countrymen to work harder to learn the language.
Look at those chinese guys and Koreans living here. Those guys don't mind working their asses off at convenience stores earning maybe one thirrd of what guys like you earn teaching English.
And do they make videos like this and post them on YouTube to pamper their countrymen?
I doubt it.
LenderSender 2 years ago
Mate, I'm not targeting anyone - I'm feeling sympathy for people finding themselves in a situation that is without precedent in post-war Japan. That's it.
Hikosaemon 2 years ago
Oops, I used my other login! Anyway, the conclusion is to get your work or school to set it all up for you. Some companies even pay rent, and no question, that is the best solution, if you are lucky enough to get it!
Peace
hikotalk 3 years ago
I personally did things possibly the hardest way. I came working for a company but with no accommodation in place for me at all. I started staying with my girlfriend's parents (awkward...) until I could afford key money, but searching on my own was very stressful. It was a Japanese company and they didn't know what to do, and I didn't know what to ask for - hopefully this vid will help people in my position....
hikotalk 3 years ago
This is really great information that foreigners who are new to Japan should know. Good on you for taking the time to put this together.
DreamAcademyJapan 3 years ago
Thanks, I really appreciate the feedback! Well, as you probably know too, I think apartment hunting is the hardest part of being a foreigner in Japan, and I've never really seen a good vid explaining what all the issues were, so I figured hey, why not? Cheers!
Peace
hikotalk 3 years ago
Out of interest, would this resistance also be felt when buying a property? Do they vary by prefecture?
acromel 3 years ago
Good question - like everything else, it varies by person to person. Generally speaking, things can be more awkward in smaller towns outside of Tokyo, but I know plenty of foreigners who have second homes in Shimoda, Niseko, Nagano and so on. It is certainly much better now than 10 years ago, and unless you really are trying to be a pioneer somewhere, buying or renting should be a hassle, but not impossible, as I understand it anyway.
Peace
hikotalk 3 years ago
Thanks. I was thinking about a second home somewhere rural and I take your point about being a pioneer ;o) I think I'd much rather try and fit in - why bother being in Japan if one doesn't at least try to integrate.
acromel 3 years ago
Thank you for the information, and thank you for your perspective.
Xenophobia is a pretty unfortunate aspect of a lot of cultures, and is perpetuated when ignored.
Bringing it up for a rational discussion like you are doing really contributes to people having a more world-centered outlook (which is always for the better).
Thanks again, peace.
particlegaze 3 years ago
I appreciate the comment mate. I agree, the tone of people commenting here in both languages is pretty good.
Cheers!
Peace
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
外国人が日本人と同程度の手続きで入居出来るようになるには、外国人であっても問題は無い、という事を家主の人達に広報し続けるしかないでしょうね。
日本の言葉、文化、法律への理解度を保障出来る検定を作って家主の人達にそれを周知させれば「この人は日本理解度準一級だから貸しても平気だ」という世の中になるかも知れません。
godgriffon 3 years ago
コメントをありがとうございました。まぁ、何の国でも外国人とか特定の国民に対して単純な偏見を持つ方は必ずいるのは仕方ないですが、良い人もいるので住居探しの外国人にその偏見を配慮して、イメージを自ら改善する方向に運びましょう。国籍に問わず、個人で判断するのが一番公平だと思いますね。気持ちを理解して下さって、ありがとうございました
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
アメリカじゃ家賃二～三倍分の前払いがありますからね。日本の不動産事情の悪口いう人間は、自国で一人暮らし生活経験をしたことが無いからでしょう。親と暮らしてきた人がいきなり海外で他人と共同生活をしようとするものなら、大変。セキュリティ専用の家賃一ヶ月分も払いなさい、と言われるのがほとんどですから。
chichiny1 3 years ago
すべてはマナーの悪さが原因だ。電車内で大声で話すのがマナーなのか？これは主に白人と中国人を多く目撃する。一部の人とは思えないほど頻繁に目撃する！彼等の国は基本的にマナーが悪いのだ。日本に来て自国にいるような振る舞いは許されない。基本的にマナーの悪い国から来ていて当の本人はマナーが悪いと自覚してないからトラブルになりやすいわけだ。
banbibu1 3 years ago
マナー？ 何それ？ 日本人はみんなマナーがいいということ？ thats just racist . 私の隣の日本人でもいつも大声でけんかするから、私は一度も文句言ったことはないよ。日本のアパートは壁が薄いから、何をやっても聞こえるから、大声で話すぐらいは我慢しろ
nikjey 3 years ago
nikjeyあんたがマナーに自信があるならそれで良い。うるさい日本人がいるなら文句を言えよ。
estrea007 3 years ago
外国人お断りは当然の話しだと思う。基本的に外国人は日本人よりもマナーが悪いからだ。秩序意識が欠落していると思う家主もいるだろう。マナーが悪いから家主に嫌われ当然だ。特に白人と中国人はお断りされて当然だ。アパート経営している叔父の話しを聞いてるからすべて分かっている。
banbibu1 3 years ago
コメントをありがとうございます。では、海外では日本人もみんなお断りも当然ですか？
私は個人で判断をしないと不公平だと思っています。
まぁ、Banbibu1さんの考え方は確かに日本によくあって、しょうがないと認めているので、特に文句を思うのではなくて、外国人がこれを理解した上で住居施設を探すべきだと思います。
Peace
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
まああれだ、外国人の住居問題は外国人自身が行動で示して解決していく問題だな。日本人が納得するようにね。将来日本に来るかもしれないニュージーランドの同胞にそれを広めるためにここでせいぜい頑張ってくれよ。
banbibu1 3 years ago
ちょっと厳しい事を書くかもしれませんが...私の友人や知人にアパート経営をしている者が何人かいます。そして彼らが言うには、外国人を入居させた場合かなりの高確率で問題を起こすそうです。ゴミ分別の問題をはじめ、部屋を汚したり破壊したり、夜中に数人で大声で騒ぐ、などが多いとのことです（もちろん日本人でもそのような人がいるのは否定しません）。
kamikazesakura 3 years ago
家主たちは、外国人とどう接して良いか解らないというより、既に多くの実害を受けているというのが現状でした。しかも何度注意しても改善してくれない、と。やはり人間として最低限の、公共の場で暴れない・破壊しない・夜中に騒がない、などのマナーは守ってもらいたいと思います。
kamikazesakura 3 years ago
kamikazesakuraさん、こういうマナーの意識問題もわかりますし、動画で英語で意識させるようにしたり、それについての情報のリンクもいれましたね。実に、アパートの家主の大半の方はまさにこういう考え方なので、外国人もこういう意見があるのが理解すべきだと思うので、コメントを感謝しています。
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
ただ、多くの外国人は日本人よりもマナー等、を気をつけるなのに、アパートが見つけられない現状がありますよね。日本人が、一定外国人を拒否するんじゃなくて、日本人と同じく「信用できそうな人なのか、出来なさそうなのか」を見て公平に判断すれば幸いと思いますね。コメントをありがとうございました！
Peace
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
When I first came to Japan to work, and looked for a place on my own, I looked for an apartment in Kashiwa City, near my work at the time. Very few places would rent but when I finally found a place, I was asked about my hoshounin. All I had was my company and I assumed that they would step up. However, come signing day, I get a call from work saying they wouldn't do that for me. The reason they gave was "we don't do that for Japanese staff, and we don't want to discriminate against them (!)"
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
Naturally I complained, but no luck, and I was going to lose the apartment. However, the president of the real estate company felt bad for me and offered to be my Hoshonin for me himeself, on condition I teach his daughter English once a week on Sundays. I was so relieved, at first I said great, thank you. But then I realized, I was working six days a week, and this would mean losing my one day off, to work for free, all so I can rent an apartment...
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
When I told my supervisor at work about this and how this meant I had no days off and couldn't work sundays, he flipped out on my behalf at the company, and they made a "special exemption" to be my guarantor. I ended up in a great little apartment, and began surfing on those very valuable days off. It was nice to see so many people stand up for me, but I just about got an ulcer over the stress of the whole thing. Moral of the story is to get that stuff sorted early on.
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
Post script - the company suggested I use a gaijin house - besides not wanting to be in a gaijin dorm, the nearest one I knew of was 2 hours commute away in central Tokyo (work was in Noda). I was a bit unnecessarily pig headed about trying to do things the "normal" way, but I learned a lot in the process, including some of the good nature of my supervisor, my real estate agent company president, and the nice landlord who rented to me. That's why I separate my garbage properly.
Peace
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
Yep, actually I was caught out on this - I'll post the story below, but definitely, even as a student, it can be a huge drama to get accommodation sorted out. 2 Hoshonins plus a letter of referral is a big effort! What part of Japan was that in?
Peace
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
夫が外国人という理由で何度も断られましたが最後に良い物件が決まりました。国籍によると正直な仲介業者に言われました。（中国人は台所を油で汚し、敷金で賄えないほどケースが多い・同居者が知らない間に増えている、など偏見もあるようです）ドイツでも同じです。
akikoLiljan 3 years ago
いやですね。前の引越しに結婚した日本人の妻もあまりにも不動産屋の断りに疲れて、頭が来て「もう一緒に暮らすのやめよう！」までも言った！でも頑張って、最終的に素敵な良いアパートを見つけました。だけど苦労している中では、自分に適しない偏見を言い訳に言われるのが結構参っちゃうね（ごみ、犯罪、靴、音、等等）
Peace
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
敷金・礼金・保証人は悪しき風習だと思うので、その辺は改善されれば、良いですね。
ioskp 3 years ago
敷金は世界的にあるんだけど、礼金・保証人制度は今の時代では日本が目立ちますね。特に礼金は、40年前ぐらいに他の先進国によくあったけど、「不公平」の見方でそれぞれの国の裁判所が禁止にしてきました。確かに、日本では家主の立場が圧倒的に強いんだけど、制度のあり方は日本国民が決めないといけないですね。コメントをありがとうございました！
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
外国人の犯罪率が高い→外国人と関わりたくない
という発想なんだと思います。
特に日本では中国人の犯罪率が一番高いので、警戒されていますね。
それは差別というより、偏見に近い気がします。
たとえ多くても、それが全てではないですからね。
ghdjvbnr765 3 years ago
確かに、外国人の犯罪率はよくマスコミ、特に週刊誌・スポーツ新聞に取り上げられますね。俺ももちろん、自分の国でももちろんそうだけど、特に海外に行ったら、そっちのルールをきっちり守らないといけないと思いますね。そして確かに、犯罪統計の中には、中国人の犯罪率がもっとも高いのも問題だと思います。（続き→）
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
ただ、高いと言っても、その「犯罪者」の中国人がまだほんのわずかの割合ですね。100人の中、犯罪を起こす人が最高に1人・2人だけで、残りのマジメに生活をしている98人をいじめる当然な根拠となるのもまだ公平ではないと思いますね。確かに、これは偏見だけど、その98人の人に対して不利となる不公平な偏見ですね。
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
だからやっぱり国籍じゃなくて、その個人をちゃんと見て判断するのはまだ重要だと思います。だけど、やはりどこでもの人間はこういう事をするけどね（笑）。まぁ、みんなで良い人になるように頑張りましょう！コメントを本当にありがとうございます。
Peace
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
Excellent vid! I look forward to more in this series!
myargonauts 3 years ago
Thanks man, much appreciated. I'll work on putting one of these up every half dozen vids or so. What I really appreciate is the bilingual feedback too. Really rewarding. Cheers mate.
Peace
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
愛が足りないなあ。（←率直な感想）確かに「ゴミ」の問題はよく耳にします。今、住んでいるところでも国立大学の留学生が居住していますが、やはりゴミはいつも問題になっています。海外から来日した方々に少しでも理解してもらえたら良いのだけれども。
YakiTubo 3 years ago
僕は在外時代には現地の友人がいたので、アパートを次から次へと紹介していただけました。
寧ろ（むしろ）海外の方が日本よりもアパートを借りやすかった。彦左衛門さん、ありがとうございます。
YakiTubo 3 years ago
いいえ、こちらこそ、コメントをありがとうございました。ごみ問題があるのを認識しているので、この動画で外国人向けにも「気を使うべき」だと意識的に強調しました。最終的にはコミュニケーションの問題だと思いますけどね。確かに、日本の賃貸現状は外国人だけでなく、日本人も結構苦労しますね（笑）。ありがとうございました！
Peace
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
Hikoさん、こんばんは。この動画をブログ等で紹介させていただいてもよろしいでしょうか。借りる側（外国人）も貸す側（MS・APTオーナー）とそこに居住する側（借りることが出来た住人）に切実な問題だと思います。
YakiTubo 3 years ago
YakiTuboさん、喜んで、是非紹介して、そしてよろしければメッセージでブログのリンクを送ってくださいね。
動画を気に入ってくれてありがとうございます。少し、外国人に対して、期待管理とマナーの意識を注意するよう、そして日本人が少し配慮できるように作ろうと思いましたので、ブログでも公開してくれたらうれしいです！。
Peace
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
外国生活の最大の長所は自分が外国人の立場になって弱者の気持ちを理解してくれることだと思います。残念ですけど、我国の現実は日本より外国人にもっと閉鎖的だと思って悲しいです。自分の差別的な言動は全然考えず、欧米や海外のどの国が人種差別がひどすぎるかなどのことしか言わないやつらを見ると頭に来ます。
smily0612 3 years ago
笑、近年には日本人のワーキング・ホリデー、海外留学等が増えていて、その海外に送った子供を心配する親、そして帰ってくる子供・若い大人たちがドンドン、外国人の立場の意識を社会レベルで高めていると思っています。素晴らしい傾向で、理解を通じて日本も世界にももっと活躍する効果にも繋がると期待しています。
Peace
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
日本人は古くから他の人種との接点がゼロに等しく、まして自分たちと体格、容姿が全く異なる西洋人ともなれば「珍しいもの」を見ているのと同じような感覚になります。それは高齢者や地方に暮らす人ほどそう感じると思います。そういった感覚だから、どう接したらいいかわからない、相手が何するかわからない→接触を避ける。こういう事なんだと思います。
AskA0103 3 years ago
確かに、それもありますね。もし政府が労働者・若い者を増やす政策で移民を受け入れるんだったら、その人が日本に入ってからでもその移民者・社会両立がうまく付き合って・スムーズに接できる用にすれば良いと思いますね。タダ、外国人をいっぱい入れただけで、みんなが勝手にうまく対応できるはずは無いですね。これから政治にも出る課題になるでしょうね。
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
ＵＲ賃貸は保証人不要で外人の多数！知ってるURには世界中の人が住んでます。junonijoさんのコメントもあるね＾＾
外国人向けアパート専門の不動産屋もネットで探してみて。大学の近所もお得。女性専用も多い。
池袋周辺と目黒。オタクは中野ｗ近郊都市は松戸、川口。不動産屋の義務？なので部屋の鍵の交換依頼を忘れないで。
DinosaurJp 3 years ago
Good Points! English: Dinosaur JP points out that Sumai Public Housing (see links) don't require guarantors and many foreigners use them so check that. There are of course foreigner specific agents too. DinosaurJpさん、コメントをありがおつございますね！
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Hikosaemon 3 years ago
外国人として暮らすことの困難さについての無理解というのは確かにありますね。しかも、差別に対し外国人側から改善を訴えると「嫌なら国へ帰れ」みたいなことを言うアホが山ほどいるし。同一性の高い社会での排外主義は、ある程度仕方のないことなのかもしれないけど、少しでもそれを改善する方向に動かなければ何もかわりませんよね。
jay2122ss 3 years ago
結構外国人同士でも文句やつに「じゃあ、帰れば？」って使うけど（笑）まぁ、外国人がそれがあると理解した上で日本にやってくるから仕方なく頑張るよ。かわいそうなのは日本生まれで拒否される老人、在日、同和、身内がいない人ですね。まぁ、みんなが少しあいての気持ちを理解するようにしたらこういう問題がなくなるはずだと思いますけどね。
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Hikosaemon 3 years ago
A good option for accomodation is UR (old Kodan). Its ok to be a foreigner and theres no need of hoshounin.
junonijo 3 years ago
junonijo - good point, and you may have noticed I had the link for the government koudan info site in the sidebar - I didn't really have time to mention it in the vid, but if you can get in, it can be a good solution. The thing is in Tokyo there is high demand for those apartments so they are often allocated by lottery. Excellent Point! Cheers
Peace
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
話は変わりますが、hikoさんのＴシャツ『クラブ進駐軍』っておもしろいね。~☆ (ﾟ∇^*)Good!!♪
今日のビデオはいい問題を投げかけてくれてありがとうございました。いろいろ考えさせられました。
すごく長くなってゴメンなさい。(o･(ェ)･o)ﾉbye bye!
joyjoyk6 3 years ago
あらっ、笑、シャツは「この世の外へ」という映画の作成中のタイトルで、俺は３秒間ぐらいエキストラとして出てしまったので、その代わり５０００ぐらいとこのシャツをもらいました。戦後の日本人のJazzバンドの映画で、結構楽しかったです。
コメントをありがとうございましたねm(_'_)m
Peace
Hikosaemon 3 years ago
ごみの分別は日本人でもわかりにくいので大変ですよね。ごみをチェックするババアにはムカつくので尻をkickしてあげましょう。外国人に冷たくするヤツは一人で外国に行ったことのない団塊の世代（50～60代）のバカなので外国人の気持ちがわからないんです。こういう人たちは無視しましょう。日本人として恥ずかしいです。私が代わりにあやまります。
joyjoyk6 3 years ago