@TheCinderella29 Wow... Are u sure? I have alot of Muslim Friends and i've argued with them before (as an atheist) about the topic of Jesu s and bever got tht response
Any naturalistic explanation is by default better than any supernatural one.
If you say that a supernatural event occured, then any supernatural event which explains what happened is equally valid, since supernatural things cannot be meausred or tested by our natural world. In other words, it's equally likely that Jesus was resurrected by the flying spaghetti monster because we cannot verify or falsify the existence of anything supernatural, whatsoever.
@superjam18 John says one of the soldiers pierced Jesus’ side with a spear, bringing a sudden flow of blood and water. John 19:34 - I understand that the flow of blood and water indicates that the heart was actually pierced.
Pliny the Younger was born in 62 C.E. His letter about the Christians only shows that he got his information from Christian believers themselves. Regardless, his birth date puts him out of the range of eyewitness accounts.
Although many scholars think that Josephus' short accounts of Jesus (in Antiquities) came from interpolations perpetrated by a later Church father (most likely, Eusebius), Josephus' birth in 37 C.E., well after the alleged crucifixion of Jesus, puts him out of range of an eyewitness account. Moreover, he wrote Antiquities in 93 C.E., after the first gospels got written! Therefore, even if his accounts about Jesus came from his hand, his information could only serve as hearsay.
With hundreds of witnesses to the resurrected Christ, why do only Pliny and Josephus independently corroborate Jesus life, and why do they not mention the resurrection? That would seem like front-page news to me.
After hundreds of people witnessed Jesus resurrected after being crucified, why is it that only Josephus and Pliny corroborate the life of Jesus independent of the gospels, and why don't they mention the resurrection. One would think that would be a detail not easily forgotten. It seems like front page news.
@fraterla93y There are many more sources than just Josephus and Pliny try having a look at "Did Jesus Exist" it's in 4 parts, uploaded by Knowwheretorun1984. Theres plenty of information in there.
Whee did he get these theories from? Whos saying these things?
Imreason 4 days ago
@Imreason .."Where did he get these theories from? Who says these things?"
The Muslims say them.
TheCinderella29 2 days ago
@TheCinderella29 Wow... Are u sure? I have alot of Muslim Friends and i've argued with them before (as an atheist) about the topic of Jesu s and bever got tht response
Imreason 2 days ago
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Why did jesus LIE about the resurrection in luke 24:46, saying that "it is written" "christ..IS TO RISE ON THE THIRD DAY"?
WHAT socalled old testament Prophet speaking on behave of THE MOST HIGH said/wrote this?
ironstart 7 months ago
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ironstart 7 months ago
Honest question - why did no-one record the two earthquakes? Or the dead walking the streets?
5cutch 10 months ago
he was never dead..god took him up to heaven..
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
Any naturalistic explanation is by default better than any supernatural one.
If you say that a supernatural event occured, then any supernatural event which explains what happened is equally valid, since supernatural things cannot be meausred or tested by our natural world. In other words, it's equally likely that Jesus was resurrected by the flying spaghetti monster because we cannot verify or falsify the existence of anything supernatural, whatsoever.
blasphemite 1 year ago
A good book is "THE CASE FOR THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS," by Habermas and Licona.
Apologist117 2 years ago
Does the bible say that he was pirced in his upper torso? I thought it was only somwhere in his side.
superjam18 2 years ago
@superjam18 John says one of the soldiers pierced Jesus’ side with a spear, bringing a sudden flow of blood and water. John 19:34 - I understand that the flow of blood and water indicates that the heart was actually pierced.
tracyjane221 3 months ago
Pliny the Younger was born in 62 C.E. His letter about the Christians only shows that he got his information from Christian believers themselves. Regardless, his birth date puts him out of the range of eyewitness accounts.
Feredir28 2 years ago
Although many scholars think that Josephus' short accounts of Jesus (in Antiquities) came from interpolations perpetrated by a later Church father (most likely, Eusebius), Josephus' birth in 37 C.E., well after the alleged crucifixion of Jesus, puts him out of range of an eyewitness account. Moreover, he wrote Antiquities in 93 C.E., after the first gospels got written! Therefore, even if his accounts about Jesus came from his hand, his information could only serve as hearsay.
Feredir28 2 years ago
With hundreds of witnesses to the resurrected Christ, why do only Pliny and Josephus independently corroborate Jesus life, and why do they not mention the resurrection? That would seem like front-page news to me.
fraterla93y 2 years ago
@fraterla93y Because, not only were the reports of Jesus' death greatly exaggerated, so were the reports of his "massive following" ;)
Christianity was a fringe movement for a good 200 years.
Econniff 9 months ago
After hundreds of people witnessed Jesus resurrected after being crucified, why is it that only Josephus and Pliny corroborate the life of Jesus independent of the gospels, and why don't they mention the resurrection. One would think that would be a detail not easily forgotten. It seems like front page news.
fraterla93y 2 years ago
@fraterla93y There are many more sources than just Josephus and Pliny try having a look at "Did Jesus Exist" it's in 4 parts, uploaded by Knowwheretorun1984. Theres plenty of information in there.
tracyjane221 3 months ago
Does the bible specify that the spear pierced the lung and heart organs?
fraterla93y 2 years ago
/watch?v=fFH0khjgA0U
TheHonestTheist 2 years ago
/watch?v=fFH0khjgA0U
TheHonestTheist 2 years ago
/watch?v=fFH0khjgA0U
TheHonestTheist 2 years ago
Some of these theories are pretty funny..
52blades 2 years ago
Good job, Doug. Very thorough.
philos71 3 years ago 2