I wonder what the late Carl Sagan would have made of this. To me it seems like our world has grown very little since the end of the Cold War. I think my own country, America, became too triumphalist and obsessed with the new communications tech. (cellphones, Ipods, smartphones, computers, the Internet, etc.) to really care that behind all that, it was rotting both economically and socially. But under any circumstances, we should explore space. I would say more but running out of characters.
Terrifying. Chilling. Disturbing. These are words that came to mind as I listened to this entire thing. Unfortunately, such a thing may not be too far off... I just hope, for the sake of every living being, that people realize that they'll get their asses vaporized too, if they try to use such weapons. I don't think anyone deserves this fate...
He spent his last moments trying to save other people yet he didn't have time to save himself so technically he gave his life (Maybe) for others to be safe
I live five miles from a nuclear reactor, and 20 miles from the Army missle base in Alabama. I will pray and hopefully recieve a quick death. My prayer for you all is to turn to Jesus, and forget the NWO that will spring up right after the attack.
In part 6,what would be the point in seeking shelter if the city took a direct nuclear hit. No one alive would be able to live very long in the radioactive contaminated environment that would be the result of such an attack.
When the war happens I'm moving to the mojave desert in Nevada to get away from any major blasts. As there are no deserts in my country (England) I would require a plane and enough resources to be able to build a sufficient shelter to protect from the elements and keep myself safe with food and water. But hell, at least I wouldnt get radiation poisoning, but I really would get a feeling of Fallout: New Vegas (only without Las Vegas surviving, doubt it would).
@BoDuke1231 Well, Nevada is just as bad as anywhere else, really. The US did a lot of nuclear testing there, and has a considerable military presence (i.e. Area 51). And really, strikes against cities are last-minute exchanges, military targets are always the first to go, mostly with ground bursts to hit underground bases and silos. That means more fallout than the airbursts that would be used against civilian targets.
Once again, these things come about because in today's society, we lack love for another. I've never seen a time as now when we hate without reason or cause and the reason is so petty it's ridiculous. For this cause, man kind will destroy itself, only love can stop this man in the mirror, if not, nobody wins.
Selfishness is a major contributing factor, yes. And I do think parallels can be drawn between a select few starting a war that wipes out billions and the studies that show that more than two thirds of people value their own well-being so much more than others' that they would be willing to let dozens (or in some cases hundreds or even thousands) die to save themselves.
This is absolutely fantastic. The very last part when the warning sirens were set off was intense, and had me on the edge of my seat. Very well done. Very fucking well done indeed!
As soon as the missiles start flying, you wouldn't want to be downtown anywhere protesting. It's much too late for that. Quickly grab whatever non-perishable supplies you can and head for rural areas, upwind of any major city.
For a piece of student radio drama, this was excellent. First rate all round. The writing was atmospheric as well as stark and thought provoking. It seems to me that the info provided by the EBSC was pretty much exactly the same info enclosed in the "Protect & Survive" pamphlet issued by the British Home Office back in 1981.
Personally, I don't know what I would do in the event of a nuclear attack. Pray for a quick death maybe?
Quick.. get two weeks worth of food and water, build a shelter in your basement , find batteries and a radio , shut off all power and dont look at nuclear blast..or you risk flash blindness oh and you have less then 20 minutes just so.. time might be an issue as the ramble took at least 10 minutes off the 30 for the ICBM to reach you.
......Also, you may want to bring a book into your shelter, since you may need to remain there for up to 99 years....You may also find A large supply of Scotch or Bourbon is required. .......there will be no need for condoms.....Try and have as much fun as possible up to and during the explosion...in actualirt, After the explosion you will not be here,,,,and "God Bless America!"
so the sirens are sounding but he has to go outside the studio to hear it. By the way, stupid assumption but i'm guessing the guy is in Toronto? And why the hell would Canada get hit? They never did anything to Russia.
In a full-scale war, nearly every major city would be hit; after all, the tactic is to destroy your enemy's military so they cannot retaliate, factories so they cannot rebuild, and populations so they cannot recover.
And anyone who might be sympathetic with them so they cannot be helped.
@lilblake90 in simple terms radiation from the nuclear fallout from the United States could reach Canada's provinces depending on which way the wind is blowing that day the nuclear strike happens
Heck, if this would really happen in the time of Soviet Russia, I wouldn't have even been born! But now, no one will nuke this pathetic country. Hurray! Two to ten more years to live if nuclear exchange starts now.
the ending is kind of corny, also, you would not be visited with static but by a high-pitched squealing sound due to the electromagnetic radiation causing the transmitting equipment to melt.
@1RadicalOne But still, we where bitching at the US, so why would the USSR attack us? And then theres the fact that we where a part of NATO so if the US attacked us it would be nuclear death for them before the USSR to get their nukes off the ground >.>
@1RadicalOne Pretty much. Kill the enemy and her allies. With Canada being a NATO member she would have been a natural target in a full exchange of nuclear weapons by the Soviets.
@FirstBloodGames Because contrary to popular opinion, the U.S., Britain, & Israel aren't the ONLY nations in this world which have a military, use that military, & aren't considered real good friends by countries which are typically thought of as being "the bad guys". Doesn't matter if the U.S.S.R. dissolved since this was produced, plenty of other countries to take their place.
Never think just because you AREN'T the U.S., you are 100% innocent & immune to attacks and aggression. You aren't.
@FirstBloodGames Like the South Park song goes BLAME CANANDA BLAME CANADA. I'm just fucking with you living just outside Chicago if Canada ever needed help from a invasion I would go to the aid of my neighbors to the North in a second if need be.
After a nuclearwar i will scavange hamburgers at McDonalds/Burger king. With all the chems they put into junkfood today they will probably survive a nuclear holocuast
Preservatives retard the growth of pathogens. They do not protect against multimillion-degree temperatures and hypersonic blast fronts created by nuclear explosions. And they would still become dangerously radioactive if they did somehow survive.
Trust me, it is better to die in such a war than survive. Survival would be worse than living in the stone ages.
@1RadicalOne I live in America, I've never been to the place, but I love the name. In the NYC area we had a place called Crazy Eddie at the time. Great commercials.
Nice play, if aired back in the day you'd have raised some eyebrows. Nice work with just a handfull of people, static, and radio effects.
There's no way you could ready 4 Sov armored divisions without being noticed, but hey, it's fiction.
@1RadicalOne I just found an Honest Ed commercial. Kitchy, nice. Hey, at least after a nuclear attack you'd have plenty of household goods. At a Crazy Eddie the EMP would wipe out all the electronics. Check out a Crazy Eddie commercial they're a East Coast USA staple for anyone over 30.
@1RadicalOne EMP induces E fields as high as 10's of thousands of volts/meter as far away as 1000 km. With Voltages like that even non-operational electronics will suffer induced currents that will cook everything but the most beefy of electronics. A faraday cage may not be enough either as the faraday cage only becomes the source of electrons (power source) and ... induces fatal currents into the system. You need a faraday cage as well as a very good short circuit to the ground.
@TalksWithDirt Ground as in Planet Earth. The military uses acrive power supplies to actively sink the induced currents. In other words a power supply for the faraday cage to sink the charge as it builds up on the cage and bleed it off as heat before the built up charge gets out of hand and starts damaging the electronics the cage is supposed to protect.
@1RadicalOne No, because if you're within a few thousand kilometers of a deliberate EMP attack (High Ionosphere burst over the Dakotas) your ground wire might have to sink thousands of amps. Lots of current in a very short time frame. And your shield has to be solid, no holes. To further complicate things there are two components to EMP, E (voltage) and B (Magnitism). The magnetic pulse will whack you too, so your shield has to have a lot of nickle and rare earth's to damp out the B pulse.
No, the magnetic pulse will not affect living organisms. The MRIs in hospitals are many times more powerful than even the planet's field, which in turn exceeds that of any realistic nuclear weapon.
@1RadicalOne Ah, sorry about that, I meant that to mean your electronics would get whacked by B field too. It's a figure of speech, sorry. Nice point about the MRI machine. If you look at the MRI control computer you'll see it stored in a cabinet. That cabinet is has some really rare and expensive elements in it.
@1RadicalOne Hahhaha, well let's hope that continued good health keeps you away from them for years to come. You don't go to one unless you're in trouble of one sort or another.
@TalksWithDirt really i would think its just a copper wire/mesh cage around it its like a fairaway cage or something i can't remember the exact spelling but it grounds the eletronics from the magnets
@1RadicalOne wouldn't that help protect it? i remember in the anime high school of the dead there is a zombie outbreak and every country goes nuclear and there is a H.A.N.E. a High Alltitude Nuclear Explosion and everything eletronic dies except for the hummvee they lifted from the nurse's friend's house (convient she had a straight from military humvee not a hummer h2 or something) because it was sheilded by copper coils sorta like a faraday cage. wouldn't a faraday cage help protect eletronics
It would take one hell of a cage to shield from the EM from a nuclear blast. I see no way that anything not designed specifically for that purpose to do any good whatsoever.
Not really; what matters is the amount of shielding, and the amount and sensitivity of circuitry. Electronics are very sensitive - watch what happens when you provide 10V, let alone 10kV, to a CPU - and as such are damaged rather easily. Something like a power grid is more robust, so it takes a larger EMP (like that generated by a nuke or solar storm) to affect it.
@1RadicalOne interesting, i kno it effects cars with eletric starts but not ones that don't use eletric ignitions which mean like really old cars and i heard something about desil engines years ago in some movie or show
Anything electronic will be overloaded and will either melt, crack, or simply burn.
Again, the same principle as in a a solar storm, though the mechanism of creation of current is somewhat different (moving magnetic field acting like a generator on the long transmission lines).
That makes it far more effective - increasing its range and its effect on the magnetosphere, which can itself generate massive damage when fluctuating - but it is not essential.
@1RadicalOne There's still a fair amount of variables involved, though. While not completely immune, tubes can survive way better than transistors/integrated circuits--although according to some reading I've been doing, the US military's latest portable emergency radio system is NBC hardened, and it's all modern electronics. Damn confusing, right?
Yes. To be honest, I am not overly impressed. Nuclear pulse propulsion is rather inefficient - only a very small amount of the energy is directed towards the ship - and requires all sorts of overhead, such as a giant blast plate. It would be more efficient to build...just about anything else.
Well, you have the technology to do others, but you would run into a rather significant issue. A starship is an extremely expensive piece of equipment, trillions of dollars in value. That is more than the global GDP for several years, if I remember correctly.
@1RadicalOne Well, yeah, that is a bit of a problem, ain't it? LOL But as I understand it, Orion, while inefficient in energy use and requiring a huge enough ship before use is OK, is easiest to implement, having all the components necessary already invented (including 50K+ units of fuel around the globe) and a proof of concept already done. Sorry if I seem ignorant, I'm an enthusiast, not a nuclear scientist. ;) hahaha
Ah....I am not so sure about that. All the required technology for other designs also exist - solar sails, fission drive, and of course the old chemical rockets - also exist, at least as an abstract.
And I am not so sure military nukes could be used for this purpose, having been designed to destroy rather than propel.
Hey, if you ever do a second one may I make two additions to the story line? Have Ted Molczan (Famous Canadian Satellite spotter) call in observations of incoming Sov ICBM's to the US. Have the national guard yield the streets of NYC to the protesters as they get word of impending attack while the reporters try to figure out why they are in retreat.
Good God, that was intense. Very well done! It's a shame "the ancient art of the Radio Play" is encountered so seldom nowadays.
I can only find two points of criticism, both of them minor. First of all, the British lady in the chopper doesn't sound natural at all, ít's easy to tell she's reading from a script. Secondly, I would've left some more ambiguity with regards to the global drama playing out. But apart from that - Brilliantly done!
Actually, it is more like the emotional "evolution" has not caught up with the technological advancement. You possess technology of a scale comparable to Type I civilizations, yet the social and political structure remains a Type 0. Hopefully that can be rectified as soon as possible, and not by setting back the technological clock.
A horrific and tragic story of short term greed becoming mass end of normal civilization. The audio needs work but the characters were very believable to the story and the addition of the anti-nuke twist becoming riots leading them to be all exposed to the warhead is shocking and different from other nuke stories.
I would rather die by a nuke than be killed with nerve gas or any bio weapons.But anyway nukes are a tool, a weapon.It cannot launch itself.Someone has to operate it can be used for good or evil.Like taking out a meteor.
I agree that dying by nuclear explosion would be so fast as to be painless, but if one considers the larger perspective, it is on the whole a less desirable alternative.
And yes, no technology, warheads included, is inherently good or evil. It is the application that matters.
I wonder how much warning we would have if this ever really happened? Would we have time to get to a shelter? Could we reach our loved ones? I've always wondered that.
Fortunately, a global nuclear war is far less likely, as international tensions between the superpowers have largely eased off, and the number of warheads has dropped (and continues to drop) drastically.
There could certainly be a nuclear terrorist attack, but that luckily has little chance of escalating, especially given that missing bombs are known about and thus difficult to mistake as a sneak attack.
That is possibly true, but it fortunately is not on the same level as the cold war in destructive potential. A terrorist attack can claim at most about two million lives, and that is the worst-case scenario of a nuclear detonation in the downtown of a major city. This pales when compared to the billions killed in a nuclear war, coupled with the disintegration of civilization.
The decrease in the nuclear arsenals of the US and Russia has been in the overkill potential. A full nuclear exchange today would take 2 billion lives and still end life and civilization as we know it. Arms reduction is a showpiece.
And my friend, policy is what triggers wars and our foreign policy is ripped right out of Mein Kampf (pre-emptive war.) Our policy combined with our remaining arsenal puts us at greater risk for a nuclear exchange than we were in the 80s. Watch Iran.
Oh I think you are qualified and it doesn't take military experience. How we behave is more likely to cause a fight than the mere fact that we have the capability to attack.
Consider this my friend: In the era MAD nuclear weapons were never uysed and there has never again been a global military conflict.
Now that there is the perception that we are safer becuase there are fewer weapons, might our leaders be more likely to USE THEM AGAIN and start a global conflict (even conventional?)
Is it possible that an ironic by product of the buildup of nuclear weapons was to have made not just the use of them obsolete, but global armed conflict (world wars) obsolete? The world saw two world wars costing 70 million lives within the span of 32 years. Hiroshima, Nagasaki, nuclear arms buildup...
Yes, the warheads were not used because both sides knew how insane a nuclear war would really be. To quote a promient russian politican or general (I can never remember): "In a nuclear war, it is the living that will envy the dead."
Both sides knew "the only winning move is not to play".
@1RadicalOne Wow, for someone who's obviously fascinated by nukewar as you are, I'm surprised you don't know your history better. He led the Soviet Union during the Eisenhower/Kennedy Administration. He went toe to toe with Kennedy during the Cuban Missile Crisis. *holds thumb and forefinger 2 centimeters apart* We came that close to a global thermonuclear war that might have meant the end of 'civilization.'
@1RadicalOne You must not know as much as you think about the C.M.C. if you don't know who Nikita Khrushchev was. And if you weren't fascinated by nukewar, why post this dramatization of a nuclear exchange and contribute all these comments?
If there are enough crazies who share your opinion, it WILL happen; it is only a matter of time. Which is why such opinions are even worse than hate speech.
You want to die on a battlefield? There is nothing wrong with that (provided you don't kill yourself with no regard to others' feelings and/or safety). Go enlist in Iraq, and don't wear body armor. You won't last long, and you'll get what you want.
Do you really not see the huge evil in saying "well, if I die, everyone else might as well die right now, and we might as well end human civilization as well; Only I matter to me"?!
Let's hope YOU die before you do things that the rest of the world will regret.
I hope that we may never experience a nuclear war. While I disagree with your analysis of its direct effect on global warming I share your concern of the environment.
How does my comment fail? It is my opinion which is based on my experience. Remember 1980's false nuke alert and the US response to a computer error. Remember Russia's near launch due to their satellite's alignment relative to the sun? Both countries have the ability to launch a devastating counter attack should they ever sense they were being attack, and that capability continues today. What the hell does global warming have to do with themo-nuclear war?
Again excellent radio play. That being said I cannot believe somehow that authorities would try to convince people that it was even possible to survive a full-blown nuclear war. As we would say in French, once the two superpowers would have started pushing the bloody buttons, ''alors, c'était complètement foutu, on était déjà morts.'' Then, indeed, we were doomed, we were already dead, basically. Or we would then wish we were.
@bourdon30 Good point. Without an effective evacuation plan that could be executed a week prior and an already established and utterly spetacular shelter and provisions network already in place such warning would likely increase the short term fatalities by putting people out in the open flash of the nuclear fireball in their panic to escape.
This is a great play. Having lived through the Cuban Missile Crisis I can tell you reality is different. Cities begin to evacuate much earlier in the crisis and the protests wouldn't really have a chance to occur. Also, once a single nuclear explosion occurs both Russia and the US would launch "full and complete retaliatory strikes". As an American I thank Canada for her friendship and support through war and peace.
I doubt we would even have this much time to react, a standar ICBM takes about 15 mins to cross the planet and reach its target. Even then it lauches several other warheads into the area. A battlefield warhead is usual tatical and nuclear while a large one is usually a Hydrogen weapon
@DarkAngelPaladin: Well, the problem is, we wouldn't know until and IF the day comes when missiles are launched....................IMO, I'd say anywhere from 1 to 2 hours would probably be more accurate, depending on where you might live in the U.S.{or Canada, where this particular story takes place.}, and which direction the missiles would be pointing.
But then again, if you were in Europe, especially in the east...........15 mins. wouldn't actually be THAT far off........
Loved it. Have you ever considered actually playing this as radio entertainment? It'd be kind of like one of those films that presented itself as a faux news broadcast (like Countdown to Looking Glass), except it'll be a radio play.
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Find it laughable that Toronto would be targeted. With the unions on strike and the city just trying to get by, threat of a nuclear attack would really shake them up.....
Makes sense. Then, in a strike like the one depicted in "By Dawn's Early Light," which was targeting military installations, we might have been on the primary list - scary, isn't it?
Ah. I stand informed, then! Then, I don't know whether we would be on the 'secondary' or 'tertiary' lists. Although, Des Moines' heavy involvement in the insurance business might have something to do with that.
From 5:07 till the end reminds me of the end of the discussion in "By Dawn's Early Light" between the SAC commander and Alice (James Earl Jones) aboard the airborne command post -
"Old buddy?"
"Yeah, Clay?"
Happy Hunting!" (Static) And, James Earl Jones (Alice, aboard the command aircraft) looks at the display map that has just gone static.
Great presentation - hard to believe they're a bunch of students!
Now that I think about it, 1RadicalOne, with an F-16 fighter wing (the 132nd of the ANG), Des Moines would probably have been on at least the "secondary" list, if not the "primary" list.
Where I live, Des Moines, IA (USA) is not a primary target, either. Although, with our ANG base (132nd Tactical Fighter Wing - F-16C's), and several Army National Guard unites, we would definitely be considered a tertiary (secondary) target.
I wonder what the late Carl Sagan would have made of this. To me it seems like our world has grown very little since the end of the Cold War. I think my own country, America, became too triumphalist and obsessed with the new communications tech. (cellphones, Ipods, smartphones, computers, the Internet, etc.) to really care that behind all that, it was rotting both economically and socially. But under any circumstances, we should explore space. I would say more but running out of characters.
tabrisangel19 1 month ago 2
You are free to express yourself across multiple comments. Especially with sentiments as constructive as those. :)
1RadicalOne 1 month ago
Terrifying. Chilling. Disturbing. These are words that came to mind as I listened to this entire thing. Unfortunately, such a thing may not be too far off... I just hope, for the sake of every living being, that people realize that they'll get their asses vaporized too, if they try to use such weapons. I don't think anyone deserves this fate...
Nellinator2311 1 month ago
wait wait, what is "some form of waste disposal system" that you can carry
with you?
5876gib 1 month ago
He spent his last moments trying to save other people yet he didn't have time to save himself so technically he gave his life (Maybe) for others to be safe
SuperNickBowser 1 month ago
He spent his last moments reading out instructions and doing his job.....Very, very unsettling and disturbing radio play. Well done though....
XLynnXFernoX 1 month ago
Lol they should puit this on the radio in Canada and cause a War of the Worlds panic hehe
Noodles37UK 2 months ago
I live five miles from a nuclear reactor, and 20 miles from the Army missle base in Alabama. I will pray and hopefully recieve a quick death. My prayer for you all is to turn to Jesus, and forget the NWO that will spring up right after the attack.
Jeffersonman1 3 months ago
In retrospect, the fact that the human race survived the twentieth century is really quite a remarkable achievement.
themuffinman12345 3 months ago
I can't believe I've been listening to the entire broadcast for 2 hours! It was fun!
jmpsmarty 4 months ago
Chilling. Amazing job.
Mind1973 4 months ago
In part 6,what would be the point in seeking shelter if the city took a direct nuclear hit. No one alive would be able to live very long in the radioactive contaminated environment that would be the result of such an attack.
BBINGHAM032352 4 months ago
One word : Desert.
When the war happens I'm moving to the mojave desert in Nevada to get away from any major blasts. As there are no deserts in my country (England) I would require a plane and enough resources to be able to build a sufficient shelter to protect from the elements and keep myself safe with food and water. But hell, at least I wouldnt get radiation poisoning, but I really would get a feeling of Fallout: New Vegas (only without Las Vegas surviving, doubt it would).
BoDuke1231 4 months ago
@BoDuke1231 Well, Nevada is just as bad as anywhere else, really. The US did a lot of nuclear testing there, and has a considerable military presence (i.e. Area 51). And really, strikes against cities are last-minute exchanges, military targets are always the first to go, mostly with ground bursts to hit underground bases and silos. That means more fallout than the airbursts that would be used against civilian targets.
eddievhfan1984 1 month ago
Once again, these things come about because in today's society, we lack love for another. I've never seen a time as now when we hate without reason or cause and the reason is so petty it's ridiculous. For this cause, man kind will destroy itself, only love can stop this man in the mirror, if not, nobody wins.
ccalll1 5 months ago
Selfishness is a major contributing factor, yes. And I do think parallels can be drawn between a select few starting a war that wipes out billions and the studies that show that more than two thirds of people value their own well-being so much more than others' that they would be willing to let dozens (or in some cases hundreds or even thousands) die to save themselves.
1RadicalOne 5 months ago
This is absolutely fantastic. The very last part when the warning sirens were set off was intense, and had me on the edge of my seat. Very well done. Very fucking well done indeed!
ThePeaveyGeneration 5 months ago
As soon as the missiles start flying, you wouldn't want to be downtown anywhere protesting. It's much too late for that. Quickly grab whatever non-perishable supplies you can and head for rural areas, upwind of any major city.
earthforce2 5 months ago
For a piece of student radio drama, this was excellent. First rate all round. The writing was atmospheric as well as stark and thought provoking. It seems to me that the info provided by the EBSC was pretty much exactly the same info enclosed in the "Protect & Survive" pamphlet issued by the British Home Office back in 1981.
Personally, I don't know what I would do in the event of a nuclear attack. Pray for a quick death maybe?
Dannflor316 6 months ago 5
dammit... weres my pip boy...?
bluereaper75 7 months ago
Bloody well done :-) Orson Wells may have even broken a smile listening to this!
ChristopherSaindon 7 months ago
Quick.. get two weeks worth of food and water, build a shelter in your basement , find batteries and a radio , shut off all power and dont look at nuclear blast..or you risk flash blindness oh and you have less then 20 minutes just so.. time might be an issue as the ramble took at least 10 minutes off the 30 for the ICBM to reach you.
sirwence 8 months ago
very well done.
stickmanpwner64 9 months ago
Damn man! im scared now....D=
Aspekitteh 10 months ago
man the air raid system sucked back then huh?
TheInkDreamer 10 months ago
Part 5 and 6 boring.
wb6162 11 months ago
White noise of death...
meta2006 11 months ago
i wonder if they got an A+ for this project
LAJay101 11 months ago 17
As do I.
1RadicalOne 11 months ago
......Also, you may want to bring a book into your shelter, since you may need to remain there for up to 99 years....You may also find A large supply of Scotch or Bourbon is required. .......there will be no need for condoms.....Try and have as much fun as possible up to and during the explosion...in actualirt, After the explosion you will not be here,,,,and "God Bless America!"
MagnetoMasterOfEvil 1 year ago
so the sirens are sounding but he has to go outside the studio to hear it. By the way, stupid assumption but i'm guessing the guy is in Toronto? And why the hell would Canada get hit? They never did anything to Russia.
lilblake90 1 year ago
The former: Yes.
The latter:
In a full-scale war, nearly every major city would be hit; after all, the tactic is to destroy your enemy's military so they cannot retaliate, factories so they cannot rebuild, and populations so they cannot recover.
And anyone who might be sympathetic with them so they cannot be helped.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
@lilblake90 in simple terms radiation from the nuclear fallout from the United States could reach Canada's provinces depending on which way the wind is blowing that day the nuclear strike happens
jakeharris2010 7 months ago
Absolutely loved all the parts. Sequel!
PFCBall 1 year ago
Color me impressed. I am so using this for my fallout Pnp Campaign.
kevinthelast 1 year ago
Heck, if this would really happen in the time of Soviet Russia, I wouldn't have even been born! But now, no one will nuke this pathetic country. Hurray! Two to ten more years to live if nuclear exchange starts now.
catie998 1 year ago
the ending is kind of corny, also, you would not be visited with static but by a high-pitched squealing sound due to the electromagnetic radiation causing the transmitting equipment to melt.
SuperAWaC 1 year ago
Oh s***! Toronto got nuked in the end!!! EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!!!!!
NovaBUSFan 1 year ago
heh, sweden will survive, but we will probably mutate into horrible freaks.
Ericzeppe 1 year ago
Why canada? what did we do? :'(
FirstBloodGames 1 year ago
It is nuclear war. Everybody dies. Noone wins.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
@1RadicalOne But still, we where bitching at the US, so why would the USSR attack us? And then theres the fact that we where a part of NATO so if the US attacked us it would be nuclear death for them before the USSR to get their nukes off the ground >.>
FirstBloodGames 1 year ago
The missiles are probably just fired at their pre-aimed targets.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
@1RadicalOne Pretty much. Kill the enemy and her allies. With Canada being a NATO member she would have been a natural target in a full exchange of nuclear weapons by the Soviets.
RebusValstay 1 year ago
Which says volumes about the morality of this method of warfare.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
@FirstBloodGames Because contrary to popular opinion, the U.S., Britain, & Israel aren't the ONLY nations in this world which have a military, use that military, & aren't considered real good friends by countries which are typically thought of as being "the bad guys". Doesn't matter if the U.S.S.R. dissolved since this was produced, plenty of other countries to take their place.
Never think just because you AREN'T the U.S., you are 100% innocent & immune to attacks and aggression. You aren't.
offamychain 1 year ago
@FirstBloodGames Like the South Park song goes BLAME CANANDA BLAME CANADA. I'm just fucking with you living just outside Chicago if Canada ever needed help from a invasion I would go to the aid of my neighbors to the North in a second if need be.
traingp7 1 year ago
After a nuclearwar i will scavange hamburgers at McDonalds/Burger king. With all the chems they put into junkfood today they will probably survive a nuclear holocuast
Ericzeppe 1 year ago
Preservatives retard the growth of pathogens. They do not protect against multimillion-degree temperatures and hypersonic blast fronts created by nuclear explosions. And they would still become dangerously radioactive if they did somehow survive.
Trust me, it is better to die in such a war than survive. Survival would be worse than living in the stone ages.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
mmm, totally agree with you.
But i rather die from radioactive poisoning while eating hamburgers instead of die without eating them
Ericzeppe 1 year ago
I would rather die in the blast, as that is so fast as to be functionally instantaneous.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
Damn that was good, I ended up litsening to the whole thing trough. Sent chills down my spine. Great job to whoever made this.
Dcarnys 1 year ago
.... Should have gone to "Honest Ed's" basement.....
TalksWithDirt 1 year ago
Yes, I know, the store no longer exists. But this was made in the 1980s.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
@1RadicalOne I live in America, I've never been to the place, but I love the name. In the NYC area we had a place called Crazy Eddie at the time. Great commercials.
Nice play, if aired back in the day you'd have raised some eyebrows. Nice work with just a handfull of people, static, and radio effects.
There's no way you could ready 4 Sov armored divisions without being noticed, but hey, it's fiction.
TalksWithDirt 1 year ago
I have been to Honest Ed's once; I remember kitchen utensils.
Lots and lots of utensils.
;)
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
@1RadicalOne I just found an Honest Ed commercial. Kitchy, nice. Hey, at least after a nuclear attack you'd have plenty of household goods. At a Crazy Eddie the EMP would wipe out all the electronics. Check out a Crazy Eddie commercial they're a East Coast USA staple for anyone over 30.
TalksWithDirt 1 year ago
EMPs do not damage electronics unless they are in operation. The same applies to the EMP-related phenomena in solar storms.
Which is why I suggest shutting down all computers, modems, and house power before either event.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
@1RadicalOne EMP induces E fields as high as 10's of thousands of volts/meter as far away as 1000 km. With Voltages like that even non-operational electronics will suffer induced currents that will cook everything but the most beefy of electronics. A faraday cage may not be enough either as the faraday cage only becomes the source of electrons (power source) and ... induces fatal currents into the system. You need a faraday cage as well as a very good short circuit to the ground.
TalksWithDirt 1 year ago
@TalksWithDirt Ground as in Planet Earth. The military uses acrive power supplies to actively sink the induced currents. In other words a power supply for the faraday cage to sink the charge as it builds up on the cage and bleed it off as heat before the built up charge gets out of hand and starts damaging the electronics the cage is supposed to protect.
TalksWithDirt 1 year ago
Are such grounding devices not standard in all quality electronics?
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
@1RadicalOne No, because if you're within a few thousand kilometers of a deliberate EMP attack (High Ionosphere burst over the Dakotas) your ground wire might have to sink thousands of amps. Lots of current in a very short time frame. And your shield has to be solid, no holes. To further complicate things there are two components to EMP, E (voltage) and B (Magnitism). The magnetic pulse will whack you too, so your shield has to have a lot of nickle and rare earth's to damp out the B pulse.
TalksWithDirt 1 year ago
No, the magnetic pulse will not affect living organisms. The MRIs in hospitals are many times more powerful than even the planet's field, which in turn exceeds that of any realistic nuclear weapon.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
@1RadicalOne Ah, sorry about that, I meant that to mean your electronics would get whacked by B field too. It's a figure of speech, sorry. Nice point about the MRI machine. If you look at the MRI control computer you'll see it stored in a cabinet. That cabinet is has some really rare and expensive elements in it.
TalksWithDirt 1 year ago
I have never actually seen an MRI machine....My physiology prevents me from fitting properly in the tube. ;)
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
@1RadicalOne Hahhaha, well let's hope that continued good health keeps you away from them for years to come. You don't go to one unless you're in trouble of one sort or another.
TalksWithDirt 1 year ago
@TalksWithDirt really i would think its just a copper wire/mesh cage around it its like a fairaway cage or something i can't remember the exact spelling but it grounds the eletronics from the magnets
residentevil568 1 year ago
You appear to mean "Faraday cage", but that does not ground electronics; it shields it by directing EM pulses around it.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
@1RadicalOne wouldn't that help protect it? i remember in the anime high school of the dead there is a zombie outbreak and every country goes nuclear and there is a H.A.N.E. a High Alltitude Nuclear Explosion and everything eletronic dies except for the hummvee they lifted from the nurse's friend's house (convient she had a straight from military humvee not a hummer h2 or something) because it was sheilded by copper coils sorta like a faraday cage. wouldn't a faraday cage help protect eletronics
residentevil568 1 year ago
It would take one hell of a cage to shield from the EM from a nuclear blast. I see no way that anything not designed specifically for that purpose to do any good whatsoever.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
@1RadicalOne cool well i guess they lucked out there with having a sheilded car right?
residentevil568 1 year ago
Given you appear to be describing a game or something, it seems more likely that the makers simply do not know the physics.
Not a rare occurrence, I assure you.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
@1RadicalOne i bet. but also don't emp's effect items worse if they have an antenna?
residentevil568 1 year ago
Not really; what matters is the amount of shielding, and the amount and sensitivity of circuitry. Electronics are very sensitive - watch what happens when you provide 10V, let alone 10kV, to a CPU - and as such are damaged rather easily. Something like a power grid is more robust, so it takes a larger EMP (like that generated by a nuke or solar storm) to affect it.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
@1RadicalOne interesting, i kno it effects cars with eletric starts but not ones that don't use eletric ignitions which mean like really old cars and i heard something about desil engines years ago in some movie or show
residentevil568 1 year ago
Anything electronic will be overloaded and will either melt, crack, or simply burn.
Again, the same principle as in a a solar storm, though the mechanism of creation of current is somewhat different (moving magnetic field acting like a generator on the long transmission lines).
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
@1RadicalOne doesn't the nuclear bomb have to be high in the atmosphere for the emp to be more effective?
residentevil568 1 year ago
That makes it far more effective - increasing its range and its effect on the magnetosphere, which can itself generate massive damage when fluctuating - but it is not essential.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
@1RadicalOne There's still a fair amount of variables involved, though. While not completely immune, tubes can survive way better than transistors/integrated circuits--although according to some reading I've been doing, the US military's latest portable emergency radio system is NBC hardened, and it's all modern electronics. Damn confusing, right?
eddievhfan1984 1 year ago
This is not my field at all; my only experience with anything nuclear is in engines, propulsion. And I work more with fusion than fission.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
@1RadicalOne Yeah, if it weren't for that damn Cold War, Project Orion would've worked. Have you heard of it?
eddievhfan1984 1 year ago
Yes. To be honest, I am not overly impressed. Nuclear pulse propulsion is rather inefficient - only a very small amount of the energy is directed towards the ship - and requires all sorts of overhead, such as a giant blast plate. It would be more efficient to build...just about anything else.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
@1RadicalOne Yeah, but the concept of it is still cool. And if we HAD to build something fast and interstellar now, it's the only one we've got.
eddievhfan1984 1 year ago
Well, you have the technology to do others, but you would run into a rather significant issue. A starship is an extremely expensive piece of equipment, trillions of dollars in value. That is more than the global GDP for several years, if I remember correctly.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
@1RadicalOne Well, yeah, that is a bit of a problem, ain't it? LOL But as I understand it, Orion, while inefficient in energy use and requiring a huge enough ship before use is OK, is easiest to implement, having all the components necessary already invented (including 50K+ units of fuel around the globe) and a proof of concept already done. Sorry if I seem ignorant, I'm an enthusiast, not a nuclear scientist. ;) hahaha
eddievhfan1984 1 year ago
Ah....I am not so sure about that. All the required technology for other designs also exist - solar sails, fission drive, and of course the old chemical rockets - also exist, at least as an abstract.
And I am not so sure military nukes could be used for this purpose, having been designed to destroy rather than propel.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
Hey, if you ever do a second one may I make two additions to the story line? Have Ted Molczan (Famous Canadian Satellite spotter) call in observations of incoming Sov ICBM's to the US. Have the national guard yield the streets of NYC to the protesters as they get word of impending attack while the reporters try to figure out why they are in retreat.
TalksWithDirt 1 year ago
I am not the one responsible for the play. A group did this for a college project; one member is a family member of mine.
Given the years that have passed, I doubt the members would even be able to work with each other, let alone actually get together and make one.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
Hmmm am russina commander know I where to target my warheads!
rangeclerk 1 year ago
Good God, that was intense. Very well done! It's a shame "the ancient art of the Radio Play" is encountered so seldom nowadays.
I can only find two points of criticism, both of them minor. First of all, the British lady in the chopper doesn't sound natural at all, ít's easy to tell she's reading from a script. Secondly, I would've left some more ambiguity with regards to the global drama playing out. But apart from that - Brilliantly done!
Great upload, it gave me goosebumps!
sebbonl 1 year ago 13
and that's how the fallout series started.
fragmaster101 1 year ago
We need to keep peace with countries
SuperWeaves 1 year ago
I wholly agree, though I think a more permanent solution is to fuse the countries altogether.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
@1RadicalOne
Marxism.
ShadowRSonic 1 year ago
Is that Marxism? I have always heard it termed as things like internationalism.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
@1RadicalOne *slams desk* NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooo
THAT IS NEW WORLD FUCKING ORDER, WE DO NOT NEED THAT SHIT!
Rcrby525 1 year ago
Do you know how I treat conspiracy theories?
And such imbecilic ways of trying to defend them?
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
@1RadicalOne "fuse countries together? Get rid of individuality? No thank you that just becomes a GIANT MONOLITHIC SYSTEM!
rangeclerk 1 year ago
Who said anything about individuality?
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
we are way too smart and advanced for our time
joewarar12 1 year ago
Actually, it is more like the emotional "evolution" has not caught up with the technological advancement. You possess technology of a scale comparable to Type I civilizations, yet the social and political structure remains a Type 0. Hopefully that can be rectified as soon as possible, and not by setting back the technological clock.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
I would love to hear more shows like this or of a similar nature. This was awesome!
dreamwarrior2008 1 year ago
Unfortunately, there are no more; this was a school project by a family member.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
A horrific and tragic story of short term greed becoming mass end of normal civilization. The audio needs work but the characters were very believable to the story and the addition of the anti-nuke twist becoming riots leading them to be all exposed to the warhead is shocking and different from other nuke stories.
Shocking, Deep Terrifying.. I would give it an A+
Zachstar2000 1 year ago
I would rather die by a nuke than be killed with nerve gas or any bio weapons.But anyway nukes are a tool, a weapon.It cannot launch itself.Someone has to operate it can be used for good or evil.Like taking out a meteor.
CrazedNovaProduction 1 year ago
I agree that dying by nuclear explosion would be so fast as to be painless, but if one considers the larger perspective, it is on the whole a less desirable alternative.
And yes, no technology, warheads included, is inherently good or evil. It is the application that matters.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
Very well done. Many of the voices sounded like real newspeople.
TomBarristerX 1 year ago 2
sceary as hell theres litrally nothing you could do to survive
neilam6 1 year ago
Don't ya miss the 80's?
menace2sobriety84 1 year ago
No.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
very well done.
AgentSmith217 1 year ago
I wonder how much warning we would have if this ever really happened? Would we have time to get to a shelter? Could we reach our loved ones? I've always wondered that.
corky7ca 1 year ago
Really entertaining. I listened to them all. Thanks for the post.
xychr0 1 year ago
This seems real!!!! Great job it's scary thinking of a nuclear war... It could happen.
igenther99 1 year ago
that was both creepy and interesting at the same time
antonio29ish 1 year ago
Very scary but very well done
FloridaLawDawg 2 years ago
It would be interesting to see another last broadcast but in today's 21st century landscape.
mongoose704 2 years ago 3
Fortunately, a global nuclear war is far less likely, as international tensions between the superpowers have largely eased off, and the number of warheads has dropped (and continues to drop) drastically.
There could certainly be a nuclear terrorist attack, but that luckily has little chance of escalating, especially given that missing bombs are known about and thus difficult to mistake as a sneak attack.
1RadicalOne 2 years ago
However both sides maintan a horrific amount of warheads deployed and even more in the stockpile which could be deployed in little time.
I don't think we are ready to take nuclear peace for granted. Too much at stake.
mongoose704 2 years ago
Not yet, no. But progress is being made.
1RadicalOne 2 years ago
Yep. Child of the cold war here. I remember seeing those minuteman silos from the highway hoping I wouldn't see the tube open. It was creepy.
Unfortunately I think the only progress that American foreign policy has made post 9/11 is that it is getting progressively worse.
mongoose704 2 years ago 2
That is possibly true, but it fortunately is not on the same level as the cold war in destructive potential. A terrorist attack can claim at most about two million lives, and that is the worst-case scenario of a nuclear detonation in the downtown of a major city. This pales when compared to the billions killed in a nuclear war, coupled with the disintegration of civilization.
1RadicalOne 2 years ago
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mongoose704 2 years ago
The decrease in the nuclear arsenals of the US and Russia has been in the overkill potential. A full nuclear exchange today would take 2 billion lives and still end life and civilization as we know it. Arms reduction is a showpiece.
And my friend, policy is what triggers wars and our foreign policy is ripped right out of Mein Kampf (pre-emptive war.) Our policy combined with our remaining arsenal puts us at greater risk for a nuclear exchange than we were in the 80s. Watch Iran.
mongoose704 2 years ago 4
I am neither a politician nor experienced with military affairs, so I cannot really comment.
1RadicalOne 2 years ago
Oh I think you are qualified and it doesn't take military experience. How we behave is more likely to cause a fight than the mere fact that we have the capability to attack.
Consider this my friend: In the era MAD nuclear weapons were never uysed and there has never again been a global military conflict.
Now that there is the perception that we are safer becuase there are fewer weapons, might our leaders be more likely to USE THEM AGAIN and start a global conflict (even conventional?)
mongoose704 2 years ago 2
Is it possible that an ironic by product of the buildup of nuclear weapons was to have made not just the use of them obsolete, but global armed conflict (world wars) obsolete? The world saw two world wars costing 70 million lives within the span of 32 years. Hiroshima, Nagasaki, nuclear arms buildup...
not one. Food for thought, that's all.
mongoose704 2 years ago 3
A rather high price for peace, but if it works...
Yes, the warheads were not used because both sides knew how insane a nuclear war would really be. To quote a promient russian politican or general (I can never remember): "In a nuclear war, it is the living that will envy the dead."
Both sides knew "the only winning move is not to play".
1RadicalOne 2 years ago
"A rather high price for peace, but if it works..."
Good statement. Democrat or republican, let us try to find a better way.
mongoose704 2 years ago 12
@1RadicalOne Nikita Khrushchev said that.
MichoRizzo44 1 year ago
Is this Nikita a politician, general, scientist, or something else?
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
@1RadicalOne Wow, for someone who's obviously fascinated by nukewar as you are, I'm surprised you don't know your history better. He led the Soviet Union during the Eisenhower/Kennedy Administration. He went toe to toe with Kennedy during the Cuban Missile Crisis. *holds thumb and forefinger 2 centimeters apart* We came that close to a global thermonuclear war that might have meant the end of 'civilization.'
MichoRizzo44 1 year ago
First off, I am not "fascinated by nuclear war". I fear it, and if I could, I would eliminate every nuclear weapon on the planet.
And I know what the Cuban Missile Crisis was and its implications; not knowing the figures behind it is hardly true ignorance.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
@1RadicalOne You must not know as much as you think about the C.M.C. if you don't know who Nikita Khrushchev was. And if you weren't fascinated by nukewar, why post this dramatization of a nuclear exchange and contribute all these comments?
MichoRizzo44 1 year ago
I never said I was an expert on the Crisis, but I am not ignorant of it either.
I posted this because a family member made it.
As for the comments, the reasons are twofold:
One, I never let a real comment go un-responded to.
Two, some of the comments have been particularly inflammatory or disgusting and I will not let that go unchecked.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
/me cues Lavos' theme...
staticman0 2 years ago
Not the brand new super mall!
mubd1234 2 years ago
And billions of other lives, for that matter.
1RadicalOne 2 years ago
Then little to nothing is wrong with this choice of method of death.
1RadicalOne 2 years ago
There is nothing wrong with that; that is your choice.
As long as one is not risking or terminating the lives of others in the process, choosing (and aiming for) a preferred method of death is fine.
1RadicalOne 2 years ago
If there are enough crazies who share your opinion, it WILL happen; it is only a matter of time. Which is why such opinions are even worse than hate speech.
You want to die on a battlefield? There is nothing wrong with that (provided you don't kill yourself with no regard to others' feelings and/or safety). Go enlist in Iraq, and don't wear body armor. You won't last long, and you'll get what you want.
1RadicalOne 2 years ago
Do you really not see the huge evil in saying "well, if I die, everyone else might as well die right now, and we might as well end human civilization as well; Only I matter to me"?!
Let's hope YOU die before you do things that the rest of the world will regret.
1RadicalOne 2 years ago
"I don't @#$^%#$% about what happens after I die:"
"I'm dieing [sic] to see a mushroom cloud"
etc
You are a truly despicable person.
1RadicalOne 2 years ago
It is people like you that are the real danger to human civilization.
1RadicalOne 2 years ago
WHAT?! You WANT a nuclear war?!!?!?
1RadicalOne 2 years ago
I hope that we may never experience a nuclear war. While I disagree with your analysis of its direct effect on global warming I share your concern of the environment.
Dakan105 2 years ago
How does my comment fail? It is my opinion which is based on my experience. Remember 1980's false nuke alert and the US response to a computer error. Remember Russia's near launch due to their satellite's alignment relative to the sun? Both countries have the ability to launch a devastating counter attack should they ever sense they were being attack, and that capability continues today. What the hell does global warming have to do with themo-nuclear war?
Dakan105 2 years ago
Again excellent radio play. That being said I cannot believe somehow that authorities would try to convince people that it was even possible to survive a full-blown nuclear war. As we would say in French, once the two superpowers would have started pushing the bloody buttons, ''alors, c'était complètement foutu, on était déjà morts.'' Then, indeed, we were doomed, we were already dead, basically. Or we would then wish we were.
bourdon30 2 years ago
@bourdon30 Good point. Without an effective evacuation plan that could be executed a week prior and an already established and utterly spetacular shelter and provisions network already in place such warning would likely increase the short term fatalities by putting people out in the open flash of the nuclear fireball in their panic to escape.
mongoose704 1 year ago
This is a great play. Having lived through the Cuban Missile Crisis I can tell you reality is different. Cities begin to evacuate much earlier in the crisis and the protests wouldn't really have a chance to occur. Also, once a single nuclear explosion occurs both Russia and the US would launch "full and complete retaliatory strikes". As an American I thank Canada for her friendship and support through war and peace.
Dakan105 2 years ago 2
I doubt we would even have this much time to react, a standar ICBM takes about 15 mins to cross the planet and reach its target. Even then it lauches several other warheads into the area. A battlefield warhead is usual tatical and nuclear while a large one is usually a Hydrogen weapon
DarkAngelPaladin 2 years ago
@DarkAngelPaladin: Well, the problem is, we wouldn't know until and IF the day comes when missiles are launched....................IMO, I'd say anywhere from 1 to 2 hours would probably be more accurate, depending on where you might live in the U.S.{or Canada, where this particular story takes place.}, and which direction the missiles would be pointing.
But then again, if you were in Europe, especially in the east...........15 mins. wouldn't actually be THAT far off........
TopFlightVideos 2 years ago
Yikes! Scary as hell, very realistic and beautifully put together. Well done!
Put this on the radio and it'll be "War of the Worlds" all over again
krystlerita 2 years ago
It was great but maybe lay off the amount of address's to go to, that got really annoying
obnoxiousnickname 2 years ago 2
NOt a bad play!! whoever made it has some good imigination!
eric777100763 2 years ago 3
this is a great piece of work. great job.
thespread 2 years ago 2
Loved it. Have you ever considered actually playing this as radio entertainment? It'd be kind of like one of those films that presented itself as a faux news broadcast (like Countdown to Looking Glass), except it'll be a radio play.
jacobdallen 2 years ago 3
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Find it laughable that Toronto would be targeted. With the unions on strike and the city just trying to get by, threat of a nuclear attack would really shake them up.....
Maybe that just what Toronto needs.....
bmacleod52 2 years ago
Yes. I certainly would not celebrate surviving such a holocaust.
This is why I support a noninterventionist foreign policy. Nothing is worth causing a nuclear holocaust.
mongoose704 2 years ago
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Formulaic and derivative.
mutley26 2 years ago
Holy mother of shit! this was freaking scary! I really flipped my shit at the end! when was this made? man, were they just a bunch of students?
DTPoe 2 years ago 2
Sam Harris is a genius.
MattShizzle 2 years ago
That is a very good line. I like it!
knightryderrwn 2 years ago
Very true. I think back to WarGames (again), and the following statement (delivered by the computer voice of JOSHUA):
"A strange game. THE ONLY WINNING MOVE IS NOT TO PLAY!" (caps added for emphasis only).
Then, the smart-a** computer says, "How about a nice game of chess?"
knightryderrwn 2 years ago
Makes sense. Then, in a strike like the one depicted in "By Dawn's Early Light," which was targeting military installations, we might have been on the primary list - scary, isn't it?
knightryderrwn 2 years ago
Ah. I stand informed, then! Then, I don't know whether we would be on the 'secondary' or 'tertiary' lists. Although, Des Moines' heavy involvement in the insurance business might have something to do with that.
knightryderrwn 2 years ago
From 5:07 till the end reminds me of the end of the discussion in "By Dawn's Early Light" between the SAC commander and Alice (James Earl Jones) aboard the airborne command post -
"Old buddy?"
"Yeah, Clay?"
Happy Hunting!" (Static) And, James Earl Jones (Alice, aboard the command aircraft) looks at the display map that has just gone static.
Great presentation - hard to believe they're a bunch of students!
knightryderrwn 2 years ago 4
Now that I think about it, 1RadicalOne, with an F-16 fighter wing (the 132nd of the ANG), Des Moines would probably have been on at least the "secondary" list, if not the "primary" list.
knightryderrwn 2 years ago
Where I live, Des Moines, IA (USA) is not a primary target, either. Although, with our ANG base (132nd Tactical Fighter Wing - F-16C's), and several Army National Guard unites, we would definitely be considered a tertiary (secondary) target.
knightryderrwn 2 years ago