FC6 PC Chris (Falco) vs Mew2King (Fox) 1

[SpaceFalconFox]

it's amazing people are pointing flaws in matches that happened nearly 6 years ago... there's still so much you can learn from these matches. The combos may not be as fast or flashy but the mindgames are all there and especially the approach/patients part is worth putting attention to.

[tafstar156]

m2k always has wasted deaths vs pc

[ruhtraeel]

wow people suck so much in 06 lol

[cantpwnme]

geeks

[podymanlawl]

ive never seen pc fail edgeguards that much... is he sandbagging?

[mrdead53]

I'm only basing it off this match (Because I haven't seen any other of PC chris' fights yet), but I'd say one of the main reasons he lost was his inability to effectively edgehog beyond the one at 1:10. Proven easily at the consistent edgehog fail at 1:55 onwards. I think he really could have shined (no pun intended you reflector fans) If he did a bit better at that.

[Dothejoo]

Phantom hit @ 1:19

[mahalic007]

they both sucked on 06 now there so much better i would have raped them if they still played like this

[SparkSSBM]

@mahalic007 maybe but back i doubt you'd be as good as you are now. that's like saying

sure lebron james is good NOW but when he was 12 i bet i could beat him in basketball.

[mahalic007]

@SparkSSBM i played pc he's a little better then me cause he has more exp and ive only been to 3 tournaments

so against certain match ups i suck while he's better i wanna play him again to get that rematch 

[Xsoccerforward]

@SparkSSBM I don't know man he is lebron james. I bet he could dunk at age 12.

[skipsfaster]

This has to be in the top 3 of all SSBM matches I've ever seen. It still amazes me.

[BrownCommander]

m2k doesn't sh much in this

[megakirby9]

omg pc stop jumping off the ledge!!!

[meleefreak9001]

@1990nintendo

Way to troll. I doubt you could have unless you are a professional

[JejuneJesuit]

LOL i think pc's controller was broken

he did the jump from the edge literally every time he grabbed it

unless it was all secretly on purpose for some super-duper mindgame >_>

[megakirby9]

@JejuneJesuit yeah i was wondering about that...

[goolick]

headshot at 1:12

[ceberusbotcatcher]

PC keeps jumping from the ledge letting the fox sweetspot, wtf.

[LordArion201]

wat happened @ 1:11-1:12?? did m2k jst let himself die?

[DaGarebear]

He jumped up from the ledge and unexpectedly got hit by a laser, and didn't react in time enough to Up B or recover, so he fell.

[kirbylolz]

PC's edgehogging wasn't good and he was being too defensive on his 3rd life.

[foxbrawler91]

Bombsoldier is the best Falco

[xxHolyxxWolfsbanexx]

If only PC Chris had edge-guarded better.

[GTALaszlo]

Every comment you've made, you talk out your ass, get the fuck off the internet you disgusting little person.

[Vanmeter815]

@GTALaszlo

Random if you are talking to me then don't get me wrong, PC is a BADASS player. He was just not as confident in his edge guarding as he could be in this match. Not counting spike or even some off ledge bullshit, he could have at least nailed the down smash edge guard a lil better, all I am saying k.

[kirby4blues]

Well, he wasn't talking to you.

LOL.

[Vanmeter815]

pc's edgeguarding sucks

[BORICUAGDN]

I NEED TO VS M2K

[mrhazuki]

Why are people always so afraid of edgeguarding M2K?

[ffgamer22]

its probably because m2k is arguably the best player at gimping and people really don't wanna risk an entire stock trying to edgeguard off-stage when there's a safe option.

[daddyshere1]

Cause he's m2k? Revival of Melee i believe it was shiz who tried to edgeguard his sheik and ended up getting faired under the stage.

[mrhazuki]

It's one thing to edgeguard a Sheik, but a Fox, a long way off the stage, shouldn't be that hard.

[daddyshere1]

Yea my comment was mainly a joke lol

"Don't fuck with M2K on the ledge!" XD

But I think falco gets most of his kills off edgeguards in this matchup.

[mrhazuki]

Against Sheik, Falco gets no off stage edgeguard kills, but against Fox, most kills should be from edgeguarding.

[daddyshere1]

Agreed.

[Oleozen]

that would be correct

[supershotgun123]

Because he is his best when he's off the ledge.

[Reave15]

i loved these matches. space creature battles are the best when in the hands of skillful players (duh pc and m2k lol)

i wish ken still played his fox more :D

[CHUCKWIGZ]

:40 was perfect

[therealbabo]

ya i was like wtf

[bmorgens]

i saw pc chris today

[pokemonredversion]

pc does go on to get consecutive 2 and 3 stocks in a row

[3167]

look at the next two matches

[studmuffin5050]

come on pc you can do better than that.

[CorruptingLOL]

PC fucking embarrassing himself in the first match.

[nickiscoolnick]

pc is my favorite smasher

i hate how he got frustrated at his short hop laser

[Uaeb223]

Pc's revenge in the second match is sick

[clayvision]

pc chris is the freakin man idc if he lost

[xtremegamerx3]

I bet M2K planned the phantom hit at 1:19 as part of his combo.

[ny3r4lyfe]

This is like three minutes of pure sandbag. These two are capable of much more.

[anthrax088]

... who would sandbag in the grand finals?

[mattmedico]

@anthrax088 PC would.

[mattmedico]

@anthrax088 PC for smash prez.

[Bones0]

@anthrax088

Isai

[aZn0vvNz56]

yea lol.. mayb not sandbagging but it looks like they were messing up alot

[ChillinJam]

i totally agree, i hear this pc guy is one of the best falcos and well... my falco is pure rape compared to this, i highly doubt I'm the best but by the looks of it I can most deffinately compete against these guys (pls ignore my bad spelling)

[Enigmatics2]

no you can't, scrub.

[nickiscoolnick]

pc would kill you. it would take like 3 mins for the match to end

[Squidstario]

match is from 2006

[CCSmashers]

this match is hilarious

[pezai]

m2k waited patiently and was very technique, while pc chris started getting fustrated cause his short hop laser wasnt working

[X33401]

i used to be that good but i stopped playin a now i can barley even hit any1

[upy0ur5]

If anybody wants to try something on SSBM out of boredom, try the homerun contest, getting the sandbag to land at 0.01 ft. Trust me, it's a lot harder than fighting three level 9 CPU's.

[upy0ur5]

About the ChillinJam thing, it don't mean crap if you can do all that. I've played a guy named Technical Edge at tourney's. He was pullin' off Silent Wolf stunts and I beat the shit out of him, sending him to the losers bracket, and he dropped against Zelgadis doing no L cancelling to mess with him. I am not technical either. Knowing how to Waveshine don't mean ur good. Just like just because ur full grown, don't make you a man.

[upy0ur5]

Oh and BTW, I can beat 3 level 9 Roy's on a team, friendly fire off, handicap 9 and myself 1, without getting touched. Even so, these two rape me out of house and homepage. So take that ChillinJam! 0.~ (sorry Feiy 4 biting off your facial expression.)

[Th3BoZO]

Wow. Ur cool

[upy0ur5]

you DO know how to beat 3 level 9 Roys without getting touched right? iz a gaem flaw... :3

[ChillinJam]

agreed. i have a buddy who practically stands still the whole match with a few exceptions. he doesn't wave dash l cancel or any of that other tech but can still beat pros cause his timing is so precise. and btw for those ppl who took my comment so serious that they had to send me death threats 0.o it was only a joke @.@

[upy0ur5]

You serious!!?? I thought they were messing around. Death threats are homo over a game, but Uhh I guess people are serious like that in most cases. The only thing that pisses me off is a guy in party matches that brags that they beat me and rub it in my face in four players. Hell, they can beat me for all I care, but when they brag and won't stop bugging you for a rematch to prove they beat you no matter how many times you rape them, it becomes annoying. BTW, Still on Melee?

[ChillinJam]

hell ya... melee is my fav smash although im sorta getting back into brawl again cause i like being sonic (to bad his moves could use some improvement) but either way, sonic is the coolest character added to smash in my opinion.

[upy0ur5]

Have you heard of the latest hack for Brawl that lets you play it with Melee Mechanics? When you play Brawl with those hacks, it feels like what brawl was supposed to be. :) (Luigi only needs one wavedash to edgehog someone on Smashville.)lol!

[cross25011990]

that can't be pc?^^

[Slashtap3]

Wow :42 was crazy

[DeeNeon]

I hope one day can measure my skills vs these guys, they're hard-work challenge

[Feiy]

ChillinJam, are you fucking retarded? XD

[ChillinJam]

when u can wave shine flawlessly with just the control stick and no x n y buttons, then u are worthy of facing me

[nutinurmacaroni]

Fuck off.

[Feiy]

You're just being retarded. I can already waveshine flawlessly. In fact, I have studied and worked on nearly every AT in the game, and many of the characters as well. I also DJC/RDJC flawlessly as well. So...yeah, eat it. O.~

[ChillinJam]

well i can qpr xgf and abc123 so fuck u

[Hanaske]

It's not the buttons you press that makes you good, it's the FUCKING way you play, you ass tard

[MoogledKupo]

ChillinJam is the best.

when u can wave shine flawlessly with just the control stick and no x n y buttons, then u are worthy of facing me

[upy0ur5]

He's VERY fucking retarded.

[ChillinJam]

relax bro it was only a joke... but i am pretty fkn good at this game. been playin smash since the day it came out on 64. ive watched alot of pro matches and work on my tech all the time.

[ChillinJam]

i don't L cancel i R cancel. i never use the c stick or x n' y buttons. i train by fighting 3 lvl 9 comps with 9+ handicap while mine is 1+ handicap on lightning melee. these guys suck ass

[ArtisticCanine]

ChillinJam, I doubt you can play like this in lightning melee against 3 lv. 9s with low handicap.

[Puckgood1]

ummm... psychomustard. Do me a favor. Go on smashboards and say that. You will get slautered. Can you shuffle? Can you pillar, waveshine, wavedash? If you can't do every single one of those fluently, you don't have a chance. M2K knows the EXACT frame count of like every move in the game. He is the smash guru. His Marth is maybe the best one out there. PC Chris held his own against KEN, the absolute king of smash, beating him in NYC. His mind games are incredible. Go ahead, challenge them.

[psychomustard]

im really insane at this game i think i can beat them u usally dominate never really lose and i play against lots of pros

[Yayuhzz]

Shut the hell up.

[frankhong]

lol at the laser death...

[xTimeAssassin]

You're both noobs I'd own ya both. JK I'd never land a hit lol

[Weeeman913]

dang ive never seen pc dodge roll so much this must be an old vid

[Enlgmatics]

maybe he was three years ago

[AnakinVx]

Bombsoilder is better than pc

[Sybawave]

Bombsoldier was the best in the world a while ago, the reason behind it was because he was the most aggressive player at the time and no one was used to his style of fighting and his tech skill with Falco was insane at the time since no one else thought about those combos. In the end everyone finally realized how easy he was to kill (thanks to no DI skillz or at least bad DI) and then he had like no mindgames and became realy predictable. But I agree that Bombsoldier looked a lot prettier,

[mylee197]

you should look up DaShizWiz he's the best falco player right now. his most recent video is of him playing m2k in the FAST1 tourny and he is insane...

[byakuya32]

yep DSW is definitely the BEST falco at this point of time.

[veedee1307]

Bombsoldier was never the best in the world. PC and Forward were always better back in the early days of smash. Even now, there are a ton of American, and even European falco players at or above bomsoldier's level. He is still dope as hell though.

[Sybawave]

No they weren't they learned from BS's style Falco never used to be used like that. But if we are talking about within the last 2 years then no BS wasn't good.

[veedee1307]

DaShizWiz was the American who pioneered BS's style in the states. He's is the only Falco who really plays like that, short of maybe Eggm. A few others come close. The real genius behind Falco is Forward, who basically came up with all his shit. And even PC will admit that he took a lot of Forward's stuff into his style when playing Falco.

[sasuke9329]

1:12

cool

[GenoGar]

The ledge jumps RUINED PC this match.

I don't know why he does them...

[Protoguy1]

I found the laser at 2:13 humorous...

[PeachyFoam]

LOL! Yeah like a "screw you cuz i can" shot.

[byakuya32]

lol that's called the "Bombsoldier" b/c he used to do it alot with his falco.

[cherazo]

So this is the reason PC was playing so freaking crazy at the second match...

Yep M2K totally read him in this one.

[flame6753]

Lol dont blame the falco, the kid obviously jusy started playing advanced.... oh wait.. nvm thats pc. But seriously, it wasnt pc suking, it was m2k intimidating

[bryanvetrone]

i hate that edge guarding shit they do.

[DocSmash]

PC was on stand-by this match.

[razorcloud]

PC chris did a TERRIBLE job playing the edges this game.

[1KoDaK1]

m2k just straight up out played him.

[PercyisaNerd]

PC really wasn't on the ball, he missed so many opportunities.

[Matricide666]

pc chris is really bad at edge hogging in this match.

[abelign1991]

omg pc totally sucked ass in this one

why all the jumping ledgehops

[DocSmash]

I know he wasn't as good in 2006 than he is now, but it looks like PC wasn't on a good day.

[1KoDaK1]

I'd rather see PC and Mew2 go at it all day then PC and Ken. The falco and fox is just so fun and entertaining.

[tedbratton]

prefer pc and ken over pc and m2k personally

[Mofat]

no wonder they call mew2king the human robot

[JumpityJosh]

lol the two players are so close, only a tiny moment of weakness an make them lose by two or three stock. i honestly think mew2's fox is better then PC's falco.. but PC is my top player, he's pro with so many chars..techincal, even. I wanna see them fox/fox.

and yeah i got that, wicked mind games at 1:41 and the shine at 39 is so perfect.

[martiallink]

contrast between this match and the next one is mind bottling

[kn0wy0urenemy]

tell me about it

[Lonewulf123]

Your right, but is't the expression "mindboggling?" XD!

[trentyq]

1:12 headshot

[OilPanic2]

2:13! Hahahahaha. Why did Mew2King do that?! Hahaha. Pure pro.

[andrewh817]

1:41-1:44....mew2king gets pc chris to aim his up-b upwards by jumping up but then edgehogging, that's impressive

[bobchu82]

Didn't even notice that, great read on PC there.

[Hawke90]

wow good clean fox M2K

[DocSmash]

PC Chris obvisouly didn't play like he's used to; lots of mistakes everywhere...  Well even he is human ;)

I'd still vote for him as president

[TwistedAvatar]

wow something is seriously wrong with pc... i dont know if he ever pillared, he never did edgehop, and overall he seemed so sluggish compared to normal..

[BrandonOwnageKing]

nothing was seriously wrong Mew2king was just make all the right moves like crouch canceling some of the shines

[Makaroniman]

DAAMN, M2K wiped out PC's first 2 stocks as easily as i wipe crums of the breakfast table!! O__o'

[BOBINATER31]

Mew2King is a beast

[chubka]

PC did pretty bad in this match..

[pyrodragun]

Wow, Mew2King has taken his game to a whole new level. PC Chris's falco used to beat M2K's fox most of the time.

[LennoxFactory]

This is old, and only the first match. His falco does beat m2k's most of the time, in these matches especially.

[pyrodragun]

lol, just saw the date. My bad.

[SecksScythe]

He never once edgehopped did he? It was probably the controller. When I first started learning to edgehop I learned that my controller was jacked up and completely prevented me from edgehopping. Mainly cause it was old ect. So I got a new one and it worked ect. Could of been the controller though.

[theonejanitor]

PC Chris has always had a terrible edge game, both guarding and coming from the edge...I think actually thats one of the reasons he wins so much, because people aren't used to the things he does around the edge

[AldwynMcCloud]

what happened to PC?

[nwvkxc]

Is M2K a midwest player?

[ShortHopFastFall]

lol no, hes from New Jersey.

We built this city...

we built this city with rock and roll

[MelodicDaath]

omg, pc was nervous.. he never ledgehopped once.

[romoxbox360]

i am real curious about this short hop thing. do you use y or x to jump instead of up control? sum1 help me out plz!!!

[abcoolsawyer]

i had that problem to but u just tap the y or x button which ever u feel comfortable with cause with the joystick it's harder to shorthop and fair or uair

[Enlgmatics]

you can't l-cancel short hop lasers... jesus...

[timmyduboy]

wow his first shine spike is a sign of his insane reflexes.

not even funny.

[tobor77]

yeah, but his first stock loss was a sign of not fast reflexes.

[atogy]

if you are talking about the firefox shine thing... thats not that hard to do.

[timmyduboy]

i'm saying he saw him aim for the stage and not the sweetspot realized it in a split second, and jump and shined him.

that's hard to do, not technically, but reflex wise.

[atogy]

I'm not sure if you misunderstood me or if I misunderstood you, but what im saying is once falco is in firefox once he moves in a direction it is easy to judge the distance and get the shine.

[theonejanitor]

it was a guess. a very good one.

[thetacoboy69]

why didnt he roll recover

[Charmander02]

PC didnt seem to be all that agressive this match.

[ThatHappyNigga]

FUCK M2K i can beat him he has no mind games. wat does he have tht every other fox has o wait hes missing mad shit. he can't waveshine he doesnt shine spike hes garbage.

[JamesSparrow]

he shinespikes at :39

waveshining isn't as important against falco as it is against heavier characters that stay standing when shined. The best thing about waveshining is grabbing or upsmashing out of it, niether work on falco.

[LordZellhs]

pwonage =p nice mew2king

[AceLy]

I liked how Mew2King faked jumping from the ledge to get away making PC Chris go for edge then just stealing it from him.

[RockLobsta23]

lol theyre pro's they know what to do. I'm sure you could all beat them so go ahead and say how good you are. *sarcasm*

[Lawrencelot89]

try pressing R while edgeguarding, instead of jumping off the edge.

[shinkudrygun]

wow pc chris can do the backward laser hop with ease. amazing really.

[frostydahoman]

honestly i thought that was dope as hell too. haha simple shit like that gets me haha. like when mew2king was fox and did short hop double lazer l canceled and shined. i played that back haha. that shit was jus tight. wasn't this match tho haha.

[Hazygoose]

you don't have to l-cancel laser hops

[AntLombardi]

wht r u doing even i could proprely beat u

[PinoyE311]

I saw a whole bunch of opportunuties for pc to edge guard. Anyway, I liked how he got one of his kills from his blaster :D

[fieryexplosions]

M2K could have recovered from that too.

[irealyhatepozers]

his controller was broken

[shadetail]

No johns

[metroid1117]

That was dissapointing on PC Chris' part :/. Hopefully he'll do better in the next match.

[MDZealot]

Falco marth fox, falco marth fox, falco marth fox peach.. I see a pattern.

<3 Chu for using Jiggs.

[Balloon22]

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