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I think on indie films, you pretty much shoot whatever you can get the people you're not paying any money to show up for. If you're lucky enough to get your cameraman, two of your actors and your location together on the same day day, THAT's the scene you shoot.
Yeah, only stupid filmmakers shoot in chronological order, like Spielberg did with Saving Private Ryan, Werner Herzog on Aguirre: the Wrath of God, or movies such as the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Lost in Translation, Dead Poet's Society and A Beautiful Mind.
Who needs a natural progression of events to help actors create organic build to character arcs? Stupid, stupid, stupid!
CyberCrusoe: Now YOU'RE the moron. ALL those films I listed were shot in chronological order, often in order to give the cast a sense of character growth. Many films are shot this way for various reasons.
Why don't you Google this stuff before shoving your foot so firmly in your mouth?
Shyaporn: that handful of examples you gave were shot in chronological order at great expense and difficulties for the film makers, which proves the original point that it's not the smart way to work.
CyberCrusoe: You wrote:"no movie is ever SHOT in chronological order."
How about you just admit you were wrong and move on?
Often shooting in chronological order SAVES money and difficulty. If you have certain props, sets or costumes that have to show wear over the course of the film, it makes sense to shoot in order so that you don't have to buy multiples of that item. Likewise if an actor has to make a drastic physical change (weight gain/loss, hair change, etc).
CyberCrusoe con't: In the end, it depends on the individual production - you shoot the way that best suits your budget and style. Sweeping pronouncements of "this is right and that is wrong" are idiotic.
Shyaporn: I agree with you regarding sweeping generalizations, it's like when you said "only stupid filmmakers shoot in chronological order" (sarcastically, meaning that SMART filmmakers shoot chronologically). But then you said that on indie films you shoot in any order that's possibled. You don't seem interested in making a point so much as getting the last word.
Shyaporn: well, if you're not being argumentative just to be a prick and get the last word, then I guess you won't feel compelled to reply to this message as well, right?
What are you, from the Karl Rove Academy of Schoolyard Logic and Spin? So you get to make snarky, ignorant comments with no factual basis, but anyone calling you out on your nonsense is "argumentative" and a "prick?" Nice try, keep stretching.
I simply take issue with being called a "halfwit moron" by someone so uninformed.
CyberCrusoe: Well, you blocked me, so I can't respond to the hate mail you sent me, so here goes:
I rated your latest video a 1-star because it's hypocritical. Listen to the way you talk, man. Your ego is blinding you to the fact that you attacked me for no reason.
I simply made the point that it's not "stupid" to shoot movies in chronological order, and you came in and started name calling.
Take a look in the mirror. It's a shame you're being such a child; your vids are decent.
I would only argue that this depends on your experience as a director and your experience with the crew. Many have said it is best to start with a simple scene, thus promising a successful first day of shooting. This is mostly beneficial when dealing with a crew and when directing actors you've never directed before. Having a successful first day builds confident in the cast and crew and heightens their desire to overcome larger obstacles.
great tip!!!!!!!!!!!!! you are great. but when can we see a real film by u. not just a video guide. beacuse you know alot!!!! im sure you could make a good flick
Also if you have one or two locations where you have a specific date when you have to shoot, but otherwise your schedule is somewhat flexible, it's good to start the whole project with the fixed date shoots. If someone backs out at the last minute you may still be able to replace him/her. But if you have already shot the entire other movie and your leading lady/man can't show up to the location on a pre-arranged fixed date. Well then you're in deep...
I always thought the best way to go is to shoot your primary location first, the spot where most of the movie takes place. That way you get it all out of the way and dont have to come back except for pickups.
Any advice on how to sweet talk your way into some shooting locations? I'm trying to secure some shots indoors at a mall. How should I go about getting permission?
The Mall is a hard thing. Talk to the management office and see if they can work with you. SOmetimes if it's a simple thing, you can do it before the Mall closes or opens. If it is a complicated scene(s) then it might be a lot more difficult. I tried at a Mall where I live (Grand Jct., CO.) And it wound up being a fiasco, so I did some rewrites. Contact me at my channel and we can talk more.
If you've got some big elaborate special effects, or maybe a lot of difficult dialog ... whatever you're the most stressed about shooting, shoot it first so the rest will seem easy.
it's pretty individual, a hard shot for me would be a shot where i have to say a lot of things, it's hard for me to remember my lines, so doing those shots first would make the rest of the project seem easier.
or shots that have something in them like, having to throw a hat on a hatstand, which you'd miss quite often before getting it right. things like that, which are difficult for you personally would determine what a hard shot is.
@ilnaras kind of like how in my movie i have to get maybe twenty five people together to make a party scene followed by a fight scene. it took me two weeks to get two people together for the first scene. btw my movie is still in progress
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blaaaaargh123 3 months ago
0:07 to 0:09 dosen't exist!!!
BlackDudeOps 8 months ago
Hell ya!
Darkdreamfilms 10 months ago
so simple, yet it seems true. In fact, I think thats how most filmmakers due it. thanks erik =]
MusicBySav 1 year ago
genious!
daveofTBZworld 2 years ago
makes sense.
Kayline2122 2 years ago 2
Simple tip, honestly I think it's a great tip.
adonian 3 years ago 8
Why are all you guys argueing? Just chill.
NHFandHFP 3 years ago 17
I think on indie films, you pretty much shoot whatever you can get the people you're not paying any money to show up for. If you're lucky enough to get your cameraman, two of your actors and your location together on the same day day, THAT's the scene you shoot.
Shyaporn 4 years ago
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KumaNightmare 4 years ago
I'm not saying this in any disrespect but i find it esier to shoot in order or iget confused with all the clips
KumaNightmare 4 years ago
But, if you are using a gunshot squib, you should do all your clips in chronological order
FlamesandGuns 4 years ago
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This actually works!!!!!!!!
1)say the name of the boy or girl u wanna be with for the rest of ur life 2 times
2)say ur bestfriend name 5 times 2 ur self
3) then post this to 5 videos and then press f8 and you will see your crushes name on the screen
dshine360 4 years ago
lol That was so damn short. Best way to get a point across and have it remembered.
stprombie 4 years ago
it is stupid to shoot in chronological order
cccprsfsr 4 years ago
Yeah, only stupid filmmakers shoot in chronological order, like Spielberg did with Saving Private Ryan, Werner Herzog on Aguirre: the Wrath of God, or movies such as the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Lost in Translation, Dead Poet's Society and A Beautiful Mind.
Who needs a natural progression of events to help actors create organic build to character arcs? Stupid, stupid, stupid!
Shyaporn 4 years ago
Shyaporn, are you retarded or are you just pretending? "Shooting in chronological order" isn't the same as EDITING, you halfwit moron.
CyberCrusoe 4 years ago
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CyberCrusoe, I was being SARCASTIC, responding to ccprsfer, who was saying it was stupid to shoot in chronological order.
All those movies I listed were shot in chronological order.
I'm not sure what YOU'RE talking about when you mention editing, that's not what I was talking about.
Oh, and you're rude.
Shyaporn 4 years ago
Shyaporn: no movie is ever SHOT in chronological order. They shoot the scenes in whichever order makes sense for the filming process.
Again, you're confusing SHOOTING and SHOWING a film (i.e. the order in which the scenes were EDITED).
CyberCrusoe 4 years ago
CyberCrusoe: Now YOU'RE the moron. ALL those films I listed were shot in chronological order, often in order to give the cast a sense of character growth. Many films are shot this way for various reasons.
Why don't you Google this stuff before shoving your foot so firmly in your mouth?
Shyaporn 4 years ago
Shyaporn: that handful of examples you gave were shot in chronological order at great expense and difficulties for the film makers, which proves the original point that it's not the smart way to work.
CyberCrusoe 4 years ago
CyberCrusoe: You wrote:"no movie is ever SHOT in chronological order."
How about you just admit you were wrong and move on?
Often shooting in chronological order SAVES money and difficulty. If you have certain props, sets or costumes that have to show wear over the course of the film, it makes sense to shoot in order so that you don't have to buy multiples of that item. Likewise if an actor has to make a drastic physical change (weight gain/loss, hair change, etc).
Shyaporn 4 years ago 2
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You dumbass, he said they shoot the scenes in whichever order makes sense and you're repeating the exact same thing. Go away you fucking nerd.
FreedomFeister 4 years ago
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FreedomFeister: And right before that he said that NO movies were ever shot in chronological order. You need to read the whole thread.
Shyaporn 4 years ago
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shyaporn I was talking to you stupid cunt
FreedomFeister 4 years ago
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FreedomFeister: Yeeessss, and then I RESPONDED to you. That's why I wrote your NAME.
Wow.
Shyaporn 4 years ago
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he meant he was talking to you when he said "go away"
spiffytuxedostudios 3 years ago 4
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he meant he was talking to you when he said "go away"
spiffytuxedostudios 3 years ago 6
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CyberCrusoe con't: In the end, it depends on the individual production - you shoot the way that best suits your budget and style. Sweeping pronouncements of "this is right and that is wrong" are idiotic.
Shyaporn 4 years ago
Shyaporn: I agree with you regarding sweeping generalizations, it's like when you said "only stupid filmmakers shoot in chronological order" (sarcastically, meaning that SMART filmmakers shoot chronologically). But then you said that on indie films you shoot in any order that's possibled. You don't seem interested in making a point so much as getting the last word.
CyberCrusoe 4 years ago
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Yeah, I was being SARCASTIC there genius, and no, it doesn't follow that I was implying that smart filmmakers shoot chronologically.
As for your last word point, check the mirror Mr. Kettle.
Shyaporn 4 years ago
Shyaporn: well, if you're not being argumentative just to be a prick and get the last word, then I guess you won't feel compelled to reply to this message as well, right?
Slow weekday afternoon for you, is it?
CyberCrusoe 4 years ago
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What are you, from the Karl Rove Academy of Schoolyard Logic and Spin? So you get to make snarky, ignorant comments with no factual basis, but anyone calling you out on your nonsense is "argumentative" and a "prick?" Nice try, keep stretching.
I simply take issue with being called a "halfwit moron" by someone so uninformed.
Shyaporn 4 years ago
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Shyaporn: Bing! Give the troll a cigar.
If you don't like being called a halfwit moron, you've got a long life of disappointment ahead of you.
I will now leave you to play with yourself. Reply away (as I'm sure you will).
CyberCrusoe 4 years ago 2
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It's amusing that you somehow think you've come out of this exchange on top.
Shyaporn 4 years ago
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CyberCrusoe: Well, you blocked me, so I can't respond to the hate mail you sent me, so here goes:
I rated your latest video a 1-star because it's hypocritical. Listen to the way you talk, man. Your ego is blinding you to the fact that you attacked me for no reason.
I simply made the point that it's not "stupid" to shoot movies in chronological order, and you came in and started name calling.
Take a look in the mirror. It's a shame you're being such a child; your vids are decent.
Shyaporn 4 years ago 5
Anyone know how easy it is to pull off a shot at a local jail? Anyone got any experience with this?
lukeybela 4 years ago
hmmm
green screen some of whatever.
AND
get some footage from Oz the old TV show
mcpizzalife 4 years ago
Quite simple, just ask the desk sergeant. He can only say no. Good luck.
07779967674 4 years ago
I would only argue that this depends on your experience as a director and your experience with the crew. Many have said it is best to start with a simple scene, thus promising a successful first day of shooting. This is mostly beneficial when dealing with a crew and when directing actors you've never directed before. Having a successful first day builds confident in the cast and crew and heightens their desire to overcome larger obstacles.
filofilm 4 years ago
But I will admit that I always shoot the hardest stuff first ;)
filofilm 4 years ago
great tip!!!!!!!!!!!!! you are great. but when can we see a real film by u. not just a video guide. beacuse you know alot!!!! im sure you could make a good flick
09m 4 years ago
true, i used to shoot easy scenes first, then i couldnt be bothered to finish the movie
dking987 4 years ago
good job Eric!
gotta love the tips! :]
eladbari 4 years ago
Also if you have one or two locations where you have a specific date when you have to shoot, but otherwise your schedule is somewhat flexible, it's good to start the whole project with the fixed date shoots. If someone backs out at the last minute you may still be able to replace him/her. But if you have already shot the entire other movie and your leading lady/man can't show up to the location on a pre-arranged fixed date. Well then you're in deep...
Cyborgerous 4 years ago
I always thought the best way to go is to shoot your primary location first, the spot where most of the movie takes place. That way you get it all out of the way and dont have to come back except for pickups.
BAromero 4 years ago
I know this aint the right video but i was wondering if you are making samurai armor on an episode, are you going to make the sword aswell?
jacobcalvert 4 years ago
What exactly will you be using the swords for? I had some made for a short that I did. But they weren't cheap. Around $50-$100 each
filofilm 4 years ago
You can buy a full set of decorative, stainless steel katana online for under $25.
Shyaporn 4 years ago 2
Any advice on how to sweet talk your way into some shooting locations? I'm trying to secure some shots indoors at a mall. How should I go about getting permission?
Tkreft1128 4 years ago
The Mall is a hard thing. Talk to the management office and see if they can work with you. SOmetimes if it's a simple thing, you can do it before the Mall closes or opens. If it is a complicated scene(s) then it might be a lot more difficult. I tried at a Mall where I live (Grand Jct., CO.) And it wound up being a fiasco, so I did some rewrites. Contact me at my channel and we can talk more.
toddnshelle01 4 years ago
Also shoot all the nudity at the beginning so that the actress can't back out at the last minute.
MisfitDoctor 4 years ago 11
Hah!
indymogul 4 years ago
yeah i guess thatss helpfull.
immrcheese 4 years ago
True.
SHOPAH0LIC 4 years ago
How do you determine which is the hardest shots? Is that an individual thing or is there a good rule of thumb?
ilnaras 4 years ago 3
If you've got some big elaborate special effects, or maybe a lot of difficult dialog ... whatever you're the most stressed about shooting, shoot it first so the rest will seem easy.
indymogul 4 years ago
it's pretty individual, a hard shot for me would be a shot where i have to say a lot of things, it's hard for me to remember my lines, so doing those shots first would make the rest of the project seem easier.
or shots that have something in them like, having to throw a hat on a hatstand, which you'd miss quite often before getting it right. things like that, which are difficult for you personally would determine what a hard shot is.
jernov 4 years ago
@ilnaras kind of like how in my movie i have to get maybe twenty five people together to make a party scene followed by a fight scene. it took me two weeks to get two people together for the first scene. btw my movie is still in progress
pooty900 1 year ago
9th lol
longveiw1 4 years ago
that was quick, lol
Meksican0 4 years ago
Quick tips! Comin' at you fast and furious!!!
indymogul 4 years ago 3
7th
popwarsk8er92 4 years ago
haha that's true
SharpieShawn 4 years ago
unconventional is the way to go!
joe6panther6 4 years ago
3rd
crazybilby 4 years ago
nice
1actress1camraman 4 years ago
15-second quick tip?! But it only lasted 9 seconds! Good tip anyhow. :)
sergie 4 years ago
Good point! Fixed :)
indymogul 4 years ago