The word hoor is actually the plural of ahwar applicable to man and haura to woman. It signifies intense whiteness of eyes bestowed upon male or female in paradise. Hoor has no specific gender. They're not for sexual gratification (husband-wife relationship) as how it's being misinterpreted or used out of context as now. It simply means the believers will have companions of pure intellect, which will include, men as well as women. Believers will be reunited with their earthly wife or husband.
You must be born again of the spirit to see the kingdom of god.Muslims dont have the holy spirit.It is a gift from god for believing in his som Jesus.
@1Waddup but it proves science before your scientist proved them lol. it is the best piece of luiguistic writing ever to come to man, somthing your writers and poest could never come up with, i dont get why are you so intent on being blind to its verses, read it with a open heart, from start to beggining, i promise you from the bottom of my heart, you will feel more awake after reading it. i will pray for you inshallah.
btw the media which you probaly read so much is ACTUALLY junk and you know
@1Waddup what basis do you have for this statement, what proof? other than what the media has told you. your bible was writen by man... the part that was given from god to jesus was lost, the romans/jews crucified jesus right in your eyes, why is the vatican in rome? why have the romans written there own bibles and handed them out so easily to everyone. not once in the bible does jesus proclaim to be god NOT ONCEE!!!, if you quote the bible dont quote anything man written please
@krypton978 islam is still SATAN,that can NEVER destroy the bible, Mohammed's name will NEVER b in the bible, keep his junk name in that dirty stinking koran
may Allah protect us from hell fire and may he grant u janat al fardouus.isn't it cool i hope i get to jannah and meet other inhabitants once a week at the market.
subhanallah my imagination is runing wild.who will I meet if i get there inshalalh,the sahabah?the prophets including mohamed pbuh.mary,asyiah,ayesha,fatima it would be one big party!lets all work harde 4 janat al fardous this world is nothing but an illusion.hope 2 see u all there my fellow brothers and sisters in islam. let's unite
@lail111 hhh yes protect u and give u 70 wifes or 40 wifes in heaven,while 1 woman will have only 1 man and this man will have other 39 or 69 wifes???is that really by god or by u pervert muslims.1 women=1 man,1 man=40-70 woman...woow mashallah ur religion is pervert!
@kurdski1 in heaven you can have whatever you want, stop trying to think your smarter than god, thats just ingnorance and you know it in your heart, are you telling me you wouldnt want that many wives and they arnt human wives, allah has created them especially for you, the human women that go jannah will have there own men or whatever they desire inshallah, why do so many people cheat on there wives these days its because men and women alike cant control themselves sometimes, ALLAH knows best
I am very much excited about knowing the pleasure in the Jenna after watching the video. I will get 100 times more power to have sex with beautiful black eyed 72 virgin girls. Continuous sex in the Jenna.There is no Day and night. How beautiful is the Jenna. Allah is merciful to me. One thing i liked that i can have outdoor sex under the shade of Palm tree in the Jenna.
yeah and then muslims don't understand why we don't want to go to jannah, I for one have had enough filth down here to also have to deal with in paradise
A challenge to all muslim brothers and sisters sura 18 : 94-100 dhul qarnain /alexander built a wall of iron and copper to protect a tribe from yajuj and majuj wall will be destroyed on judgement day That means the wall should still be here show me the wall of iron and copper if pyramids are still here, then where is the wall It was a mythical story from a book Alexander romance muahmmad heard it in Syria It proves that Koran is the word of Muhammad not gods THINK CRITICALLY.
ok hang on, i actually have no proof that she is egyptian, the sister who turned me on to her, basically a student of hers, told me that she was a petite egyptian lady with a huge voice but I cannot prove that, I have never seen her to confirm it, Allah knows best.
it is an amaaaazing egyptian sister whose voice is actually MUCH bigger than she is.
In islam women need to "toughen up" their voices when they speak publicly so as not to charm those (men and maybe even some women)who may have a disease in their heart, but this sister already has a vocal condition that allows her to have a voice that causes her to be taken seriously as a teacher, she is amaaazing masahAllah. her voice is a gift
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What is the temperature of Hell in Centigrade? No Muslim seems to know. They say it is very hot. Hot like the sun? Then no human can survive there even a fraction of a second. Say it is 80 deg. Still human survival time will only be in minutes. Why is Allah wasting energy for a pointless exercise? Use your head. Make Hell a kool place to be. Send some air-conditioning engineers. Let's have a swell party in Hell. Allah too can join in the fun. Bring those virgins too!
there is no centigrade which can describe the heat of hell fire. The people will be made large for the fire thus they will feel more pain. When they are burnt through the flesh, their flesh will be created again so that they may burn again, and this continues. No energy is lost as god does not need rest nor gets tires, the fuel of the hell fire are men (people) and stones.
what's exatly is your point here? are you saying that ill-allah is behind hell, and what do you mean the ppl will be made large for the fire, ill-allah surely will have to work over time if he has to do all this.
@hannahr77 seems like your knowledge is so less brother, everything is possible for Almighty Allah, he is the creator of the heaven and the earth, our lord and the master of everything, he just have to say be and it is.. seek for the truth and knoweldge before the end of times comes fear for your death, fear for your lord and the punishment of the judgment day..
so if ill-allah just has ot say be and it is, so why don't your fake ill-allah say peace and we'll have why don't he say anything, I'll tell you his is deaf and dumb, I have no fear for ill-allah, however I do love and respect the HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL
I believe in JESUS CHRIST AS MY LORD AND SAVIOUR period, and as such I'm saved from the lake of fire thank you my dear lost friend, and I am on the straight path believe you me and do you know the meaning of the word Amen, you hate the Jews and still you use a Hebrew word
@hannahr77 i dont hate the jews nor the Christians, i dont hate any of them, i define people by heart... to hate people is so wrong.. anyways i hope you would seek the truth brother.. take care
@hannahr77 actually hebrew and arabic are both semetic languages, meaning a lot of words sound the same for example, shalom and salam. amen and ameen. please understand that it is an arabic word as well and the quran is origianlly in arabic.
@hannahr77 and dont get the wrong meaning out of the mercy i have said... Allah is very strict in his judgment for all the wrong doers, if only you would know how painful the punishment is you would have never said that its his mercy that can only save you, hence May Allah mercy be on you and brother always know that he is all merciful al forgiving.. May you get the right path Ameen
and you knowledge is even less because I am not a brother, ill-allah is your lord alright, but he's not my lord and I am saved thank you very much, ill-allah holds no power over me and I DO NOT FEAR YOUR FAKE IDOL MOON ill-allah period
@hannahr77 lol dude, Allah is the Arabic name for what we call in english God. so what your saying is that the one true God that we pray to.. the same God that Abraham, Noah, Moses, Jesus, Adam, and Muhammed prayed to has no power over you? lol. Let me tell you something about Jesus (peace be upon him) in the Old T Jesus says that "The son shall not inherit the sins of the father." meaning that every single human being is responsible for himself. So how could he possibly die for your sins? think
And so what if ill-allah in Arabic means god. He is still not my GOD, strange you ppl are saying this over and over again, and we say over and over again that it’s not the case, what’s with you ppl are you deaf or just hard of hearing? So let me say it loud and clear ILL-ALLAH HOLDS NO POWER OVER ME HE IS NOT MY GOD PERIOD. And of course we’re responsible for our own sins, that’s not the point of JESUS dying on a cross, you ppl are so lost and don’t even know it how sad
ok ...Im not gonna say she doesnt know what she's talking about because that would be wrong and i am no1 to pass judgement on her however I would say that she should do more research and study more alternatively I would say listen to 7 vids on tour of jannah its good and referenced with evidence...
but tell me this, aren't there women out there who look exactly like the virgins who are described in the koran? i mean women on earth.....so you have to wonder, are the hoor al ayn really true?
Why do you need a V-shaped oven in Hell: I thought Hell is hot enough as it is: by the way, what is the temperature of Hell in Centigrade? If it is more than 60 deg, it is unlikely anybody will survive there. Allah is wasting energy keeping it so hot. Why not make it a kool place to go?
she is egyptian, so yes, black in a sense, but also arab. I think perhaps she speaks and east coast type of english but yeah, I thought she was african american when I first heard her voice. and no, there is nothing like the hur al ayn on earth, period. but alhamdulilah a woman of earth, if she gets to jannah, the hur al ayn will have nothing on her InshaAllah according to lectures I have listenend to and Allah knows best. doubtig the deen leads to kufr, don't do it. inshaAllah
You must be young if not by age then by mentality... for that kind of comment the kind of sin you commit is enourmouse and the punishment will be great try checking out the speach on hell... because im sure that would probably settle your comments and childish behavioure that is so uncontrollable by you...
lol... thats not a good thing because there is a V shaped oven in hell for those who comit addultary and it ignites from underneath and burns while you try to escape you only return kinda like tryin to give up sex... you try run but keep fallin back into it... cant help it right... and yes they are virgins but only Allmighty will decide whether you get or do not get... answer your question I hope. salaam
She did not say that all the children that die before puberty do not enter paradise...The question was weather these kids that die before puberty are the kids that will serve the pple in Jennah. To that question she said the answer is false.
wallahi their is no hadith saying what you are claiming ?
and if you believe that you are a kafir to ,because allah says no kafir will be allowed to enter paridise.. if you deny profets or setting partners to allah you are a infidel and will only enter the blazing fire in hell.....
but Allah says in the quran that the christan ,sahabia will get their loan.i donnu if we can be so harsh.Let Allah decide. Moreover i read a hadith,that RasulAllah(sws) said"i have seen a man in paredise who was kafir but removed a tree from the way of muslims which made muslims to go ahead.
go to hell...it is mentuoned in so many hadiths and in the quran many times..
muhammad (s.a.w) was sent to makind
so he can preach about the oneness of god....if kafrs go to jannah then there would of been no point of Allah to send messangers ....so you see...whoever belives in allah and that muahammad as his messanger will go to jannah(paredise)..
muhammad was send to mankind, so now mankind was only in arabia, and if only muslims goes to jennah so be it because I would not want to go to a whorehouse and watch ppl fornicating all over the place keep you jennah, I'll take JESUS CHRIST any time over fake ill-allah
@hannahr77 jesus christ (PBUH) WILL BE IN jennah, inshallah! it isnt a whorehouse. it is simply a perfect world. just like you can be married here you can be married there except it is perfect. everything is perfect.
lol at muslims cannot destroy the bible.you destroyed your own bible yourseleves.
you have no clue have you?
go find me the original bible,in its original language and while you at it find out the identities of the authors of the bible.
islam is satan?can you be anymore pathetic and idiotic?instead of parroting back what your pastor tells you provide me with evidence of this accusation.also point to where from your 300+bibles where jesus claimed 2 be God.how can God be 3in1?
So the Jews were those who followed Moosa (peace be upon him) and referred to the Tawraat for judgement at that time. When Allaah sent Eesa (peace be upon him), the Children of Israel were obliged to follow him and obey him, and so they and others who followed him became Christians.. When Allaah sent Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), as the Final Prophet and a Messenger to all the children of Adam, all of mankind was obliged to believe in him, and refrain from what he prohibited.
The aayah (interpretation of the meaning), And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers [Aal Imraan 3:85] is a statement that Allaah will not accept any way or deed from anyone, after sending His Final Messenger, except those that are in accordance with the laws of Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him).Prior to this, however, anyone who followed the Prophet of his own time was on the Straight Path.
but as the quran says, you have had a long life.. soem people 60-70 years, you have had those years to change your ways. quran states we only ahve one chance.
people of jahanama will vry and beg allah for a second chancce.... he will reply that you had your chance in teh dounia. didnt he said 1000's of prophets. didnt he send the quran to mankind. a warning a sign. prophecy. but they still ignored the signs teh warnings the help. how stuburn and blind these people must be.
The speaker says: servants in heaven r "immortal" - is tht trying 2 comfort people about treating the boys as slaves? Tht is what they wld be. They aren't REALLY human, so we shld b okay w/having SLAVERY in HEAVEN? I don't want/need even 1 slave - EVER!
The speaker also says: people in heaven will discuss their former lives & how they r glad they properly "feared" Allah. Y do so many religions insist we fear God? So we will obey? Better to obey out of LOVE than FEAR, don't u think? Am I wrong?
Although as a survival mechanism fear IS good - obeying God out of fear rather than love strikes me as profoundly sad. Our Creator fills my thoughts & my soul with light & laughter - fear is just not part of the equation. I find myself eager to do good & live right, not out of fear of God's wrath, but that the happiness it gives me is akin to the happiness I feel when contemplating God or praying. To me, God is forever my protector, my guide, my teacher.
Absolutely. But the fact remains that different people need different motivations. For some, love is truly enough. But for others fear does play a useful part. It is not really sad, because whatever works for one, does not always work for another. So in the end, whatever your motivation, if you end up in the same place, thats what should be counted.
Remember that God's guidance is for all types of people. And different people react to different aspects of the same thing.
I think I'll have 2 disagree w/u here. I don't think fear is a path to God - tho one might technically obey God's laws (according 2 the religion they believe imparts God's wisdom), if one only "obeys" out of fear, but still harbors evil desires at heart - even if one never acts upon them - then they r NOT on the path to God. Fear of reprisal doesn't cancel out ill intent in the mind/heart, does it?
Don't worry tho - I believe in reincarnation, so we all have PLENTY of time 2 get it right.
There are examples in human nature to support my argument about fear. But reincarnation?
That just doesn't make sense
The biggest problem with reincarnation doctrines that I have seen is that they all try to present a picture of purity of the heart and mind, yet they seem to forget that ego/desire is a part of the human self, its nature. By trying to cancel it out, the doctrine becomes unnatural.
Take Budhism for example, if everyone chose budhist monasticism, the world would grind to a halt.
What doesn't make sense is that the Omnipotent Creator of Everything would be shallow enough to give humans only ONE chance to become enlightened & thus closer to God. Why would God allow such a short amount of time for so difficult a task? Since I don't believe in God would discard ANYTHING that God made (ie. - sending souls to "hell") - I believe that we receive as much time as we need to become what God intends for us. No one is discarded or forgotten.
One chance? I do not understand what you mean by this. Every day you wake up and have the chance to repent for your sins and act aright.
Every day we sin, and everyday we are given the chance to ask for mercy.
God's mercy has been described as limitless. In the Quran God plainly states that no one should ever despair the Mercy of Allah. Anyone who asks for it, will be forgiven and guided.
With that said, it is not easy. Thats the whole point. The hardship is what drives us to seek guidance.
By one chance I was meaning one lifetime. True, you have every day to repent - but is merely "repenting" enough? Sin is in the intent of an act, not necessarily the act itself, yes? One must also learn from mistakes/sins & that is something that might take some people several lifetimes to learn. Learning mercy/compassion/wisdom might come easy to one, yet take years for another. So, why NOT reincarnate the souls that need more time to learn?
That said, I see the reason & logic in your words. :)
Ask yourself this question: Why would it take someone several lifetimes to learn that murder and rape is wrong?
Every child reaching puberty understands the difference between right and wrong. That is not the core issue, the issue is why does man choose evil/sin over good/virtue?
Let us take as an example, Stalin or Hitler. Do you think that they did not know that what they were doing was evil?
They chose evil because they did not believe that they would be held accountable for their actions.
Most who commit evil acts "justify" their actions. Stalin & Hitler put forth arguments in favor of their actions & they each had RABID devotees.
What is "evil" to u & I might not be to another.
For example - honor killings. Or slavery - slavery is "evil" these days, but in the past was seen as quite normal. How about female circumcision? I see that as QUITE evil & horrific - others consider it normal & "necessary".
So, some things might indeed take several lifetimes 2 realise as evil, u see?
Here you are proposing Moral Relativism, with which I disagree completely. I believe that there are certain absolute ethical standards which are inherent in all human beings.
The majority will always follow the norm, which in some cases is deviation from their independent and inherent morality. Those who commit these evil acts know, in their heart of hearts that what they are doing is wrong.
Proof > If this was not true, there would be no need for a spiritual struggle, or enlightenment.
I suppose we will just have to agree to disagree. :)
"Ethical standards" are NOT inherent in all human beings - ethics are about morality, which IS relative according to what a person has learned. Sure, one can easily commit a crime/sin & verbally justify themselves while feeling privately that what they've done is wrong - but there are far more people who commit atrocities & think themselves justified. Like those hijackers on 9/11 - I'm sure they thought what they were doing was just & good.
Personally, I find Moral Relativism in contradiction to the whole idea of what it means to be a human, a spiritual being. A creature which has been granted reason from the divine Himself. Reason in this case being an innate sense of the responsibilities associated with being God's vicegerent on Earth.
I just can not understand how Moral Relativism is compatible with Spirituality. If there was no absolute truth, what would be the point of the journey?
Absolute truth is seeing all POV's, seeing the entire picture, from the microcosm to the macrocosm, yes? I find that most people have a very difficult time seeing things from other people's perspective - they r too caught up in themselves to care. It is very difficult to be able to look beyond oneself to the "bigger picture". The journey to absolute truth is a long & difficult road - I believe God understands that (which is why I believe in reincarnation). Eventually we will ALL get there. :)
We need to clarify something here. You need to know that your belief in Moral Relativism is not consistent with your belief in reincarnation. Moral Relativism, as they teach in philosophy, is a materialistic POV. Which states that if every POV is valid, then none are invalid. Hence, there is no real truth, and no real falsehood. Hence, materialistic POVs do not allow for anything spiritual to exist.
So what do you believe? Is there absolute truth? Do you believe reincarnation is that truth?
p.s. Take a look at the relationship between the parent and child. Does fear not play a role in the upbringing of the child? Does that fear cancel out the love? It does not, not in healthy relationships anyway.
God has created the parent-child bond as a reference to the relationship between man and God. That is why, in Islam next to obedience to God, is obedience to parents, especially your mother.
True - but God is NOT our mother or father - God is more than that, a bigger concept than I think we have words for. The parent-child bond is a natural survival mechanism. Would God have need of a survival mechanism?
I think that we attach human concepts 2 God 2 try 2 xplain God 2 ourselves & we sell God short by doing that. God is much deeper, finer, bigger than ANY human concept - u know?
So, tho fear FORCES one 2 obey - love evokes DESIRE 2 obey. That is why, 2 me, fearing God is sad.
Well, I DON'T believe in a "Judgement Day". That is a scare tactic used by religions to scare one into obeying "The Rules" (or, what they say God's rules r). & I don't believe in a physical Heaven or Hell - since we can't quantify what atoms a soul is made of, nor measure the ethereal, we don't know what comes after. I believe that heaven/hell r a state of mind, rather than a place to go. If your soul is enlightened then it is in heaven. If it is burdened by hate/anger/etc. then it is in hell.
I understand your intent, however you are contradicting yourself on a very crucial point. You wrote:
"we can't quantify what atoms a soul is made of, nor measure the ethereal"
True, but you are forgetting that even though we can not measure pain and pleasure, God can.
What this means is that God knows exactly how much pain Hitler caused for example. Because God was there, He was there in those concentration camps watching that injustice happen.
But please see that time is a HUMAN construct - we like things with a beginning & an end, nice & neat. We also like the idea of God punishing those that wrong us - which is quite a vicious mindset, don't u think?
Yes, Hitler was a monster - but do you think he thought of himself as a monster? Many people who grow up to be "evil" had very abusive/horrific early lives & that is what forms the basis of their twisted selves. God would know that & perhaps have mercy on even the most "damned" soul.
I understand your point, however there is a misconception about the nature of punishment here. You believe that punishment is evil, and God would never employ evil. However, I already stated earlier that punishment is not evil.
Punishment for those who commit evil is JUSTICE and a way for the criminal to redeem himself.
Punishment is part of God's Mercy and Wisdom.
In Islam, the victims are told that they have the right to seek retribution, however, they are advised that forgiveness is best.
I do not think God thinks in terms of punishment & reward - those r human concepts. Because we R human & thus bound 2 the limits of physical lifetimes, we think of things in the short term. God is much more of a long term planner, yes? I can't see God creating something only to cast it aside. God loves ALL creations & WOULDN'T cast even the most willful aside. & tht is difficult 4 me 2 admit - I had a stepfather who was a VERY bad man - but I have 2 realise tht God loves him as much as me & you.
i see u are very interested in islam. do research on it. and learn more about islam. find an imaam and ask him everything that pops up in ur mind. May Allah guide u.
Do you not see that your own words contradict your entire argument?
You yourself said that God is more of a long term planner. Yet you still fail to see past the short term affects of His punishment.
Punishment, in the long term, provides redemption for the sinner. It purifies him by neutralizing his faults. That is why Hell is compatible with Divine attributes of infinite Mercy.
Look at nature, is it not true that in order to purify gold, you must boil the impurities away?
Hell is ETERNAL punishment tho, isn't it? What would be the purpose of eternal punishment other than vengence or retribution? What redemption is possible once one is cast eternally aside?
Now, punishment during a lifetime I can understand - sometimes one has to go thru difficult life experiences to learn. Sure, it is possible for punishment, in the long term, to redeem a soul - but only if not abandoned by God, yes?
p.s. in NATURE gold is not purified, that is a human invention. ;)
In Hell, a second is a lifetime. But no, it is not eternal. Many Muslims seem to believe it is, but the Quran leaves the question quite open. And some oral traditions of the Prophet also point at it being temporary.
As for nature, if you observe natural law, everything is purified in such a way. Water, becomes vapor, becomes rain. Forests become ash, so soil can become fertile.
As Rumi noted for a seed to become bread it has to go through so many harsh stages before it can bring benefit to man
are you saying its like a correctional facility,i think eternal pretty much means that! your time on earth is your purification phase,give your life to God , i have started.
That would be eternity in Hell... but eternity in paradise is like this:
It means that every moment that you experience, is better then the moment that passed away before it.
Imagine going to a party and that point where you know that the sun is about to come up and everyone is about to pass out or go home, that point never comes.
Imagine a high, from which there is no coming down. And your "peak" never comes. Every moment, the effects get better and stronger.
Remember bro, Non-Muslims are not promised hell to begin with. Jews, Christians and good believing people are allowed into paradise, as long as they believe in One God.
Also, look into the following verse of the Quran: Chapter 11 (HUD) verse 107. "Except as your lord please" hints.
And there is another verse in the Quran which says that those in hell will not be taken out until the camel passes through the eye of the needle. Well, according to the Bible, this miracle is possible: Matthew 19:26
From the Quran. Because other verses in the Quran already guarantee paradise for Jews and Christians. If you take this verse out of context, then it would contradict other parts of the Quran.
It is however true, that if any Jew or Christian does not accept God as the one and only God, then he is not accepted into this category. But this also applies to Muslims, who may take pirs and other teachers and worship them.
And they say, "None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." These are their own desires. Say (O Muhammad Peace be upon him ), "Produce your proof if you are truthful." (Al-Baqarah 2:111)
Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
--- Sayfullhaq, you are misinterpreting the verses you are quoting. They are not addressing all Jews and Christians, but only those who are transgressors.
Then how do you explain the contradiction? Obviously it is not because the Quranic verses contradict each other. What else could it be other then your interpretation of the verses you provided. The verse I provided is very clear and simple. The other verses do have to be taken in their proper context.
Muslims Scholars agree that Jews and Christians will enter Paradise if they keep to the worship of the one true God.
there are contradictions in the quraan... and all verses have to be taken in their proper context.. check the tafsir of that verse and the verses i have quoted and paste them here... and plz tell me what scholars agree with your opinion?
The tafsir of all mainstream Quran translations recognize that Jews and Christians are promised paradise (those who do not worship others besides Allah). This is why I do not understand where you are getting your interpretation from.
The verse I provided states this very clearly and simply.
As far as the Jews are concerning, their faith meant believing in the Tawraat (original Torah) and following the way of Moosa (peace be upon him) until Eesa(jesus) came, after which whoever continued to follow the Torah and the way of Moosa, and did not leave this and follow Eesa, was doomed. As far as the Christians are concerned, their faith meant believing in the Injeel (original Gospel) and following the laws of Eesa; whoever did this was a believer whose faith was acceptable to Allaah,
until Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) came, after which whoever did not follow Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and leave the way of Eesa and the Injeel that he had been following before, was doomed.
I was not aware Ibn Khatir interpreted these words as such. In my view, the contradict the verse which quoted. The tafsir I have is Muhammed Ali. And I have heard many times from scholars things which contradict this view of Ibn Khatir.
Besides, the verse of the Quran I provided is clearly contradicting Ibn Khatir anyway so its a moot point.
u get a better reward for ur fear of Allah than for ur love for Him. All praise is due to Allah, the Almighty, the All Praiseworthy, may He grant us the highest abode of heaven for Eternity, ameen.
I don't really care about "rewards" for my fearing God appropriately. I'd much rather just love God - God is my protector, my savior, my teacher, my beloved. Everything of everything is glory to God and the mere thought of God makes me want to smile and dance and sing with happiness. I do not fear God and I never will. God is my rock, my foundation - I yearn to be closer to God. WHY should I fear my wonderful Creator? Why would anyone?
Those who fear Allah alone, do not fear anything in this world. Those who don't fear Allah fear the worldly fears. You cannot have two fears in your heart. The more you fear Allah the less you fear the difficulties the world has to offer.
A very logical response - but I still have to disagree. I just have no fear of God in my heart - only love & reverence & joy. I don't think God would ever destroy a soul, throwing it away into "hell" for disobedience. That's revenge, which is a very HUMAN concept. Loving, rather than fearing, God makes me fear the difficulties of life much less, secure in that protection. I can always trust God to be with me & teach me what I need to become enlightened (& thus closer to God).
lalamusa1 Pig do not stay in a good place, a pig do not eat good, a pig do not knw a value of life n wot is good n bad and finally a Pig like u movafuker dnt lisen to good things rather u shit N eat, drink, shagg around perform incest like the pple of west practice!!
As far as I know in paradise there will be no need for a market since there is no hunger or illness, moreover, the slightest whims of the companions of paradise will be answered to and all they have to do is simply think or wish in their heads for so and so and they will have it.
there is no hunger but things will be done for pleasure, please read about this yourself its the only way youll really learn. but yes there will be a market but for pleasure not need, and in paradise we will eat and drink, its in the hadith get yourself them.
Yes i know quite well that everything there will be done for pure pleasure. The wine will be purest of wine and without any alcohol or any negative or bad effects. The fruits will be identical for sake of familiarity but the taste of it will be uncomparable! ... This however does not state that there is needs for markets. I don't think everytime you want something 'oh ran out, got to go to the market... rather i think it's more heavenly if what you want comes to you when u want it... don't you?
lalamusa1, i had asked if u knew of any evidence for this, can u site the hadith and what is the authenticity of the source? instead u tell me to read the hadith but forgot to state or mention it!
I have heard that, but I havent seen any evidence. Once a week they will gather at that market, and when they return, their companions will tell them, You are even lovelier than you were before. Maybe its like a Jumah, but for Jannah? May Allah enter us into Jannah so that we can find out!
I am not sure that this woman is right about the young boys serving in Jannah not being children from here as everyone will become immortal in Jannah.
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The word hoor is actually the plural of ahwar applicable to man and haura to woman. It signifies intense whiteness of eyes bestowed upon male or female in paradise. Hoor has no specific gender. They're not for sexual gratification (husband-wife relationship) as how it's being misinterpreted or used out of context as now. It simply means the believers will have companions of pure intellect, which will include, men as well as women. Believers will be reunited with their earthly wife or husband.
Shriz007 3 months ago
You must be born again of the spirit to see the kingdom of god.Muslims dont have the holy spirit.It is a gift from god for believing in his som Jesus.
harry77792 11 months ago
@harry77792 my unmuslim friend, first of you only saying that jesus is Allah's son is a sin a BIIIG sin
stakfar'allah
how can you even say this, i can't explain how dissrespectfull that is to the almight Allah (God)
chenarooo 11 months ago
No marrage ,No sex, in gods kingdom, dont believe everything you read from satans book
harry77792 11 months ago
this religion is just CANAL!!!, this religion gets rediculous everytime u hear more of it.l
every one knows this koran junk is a joke book
1Waddup 1 year ago
@1Waddup but it proves science before your scientist proved them lol. it is the best piece of luiguistic writing ever to come to man, somthing your writers and poest could never come up with, i dont get why are you so intent on being blind to its verses, read it with a open heart, from start to beggining, i promise you from the bottom of my heart, you will feel more awake after reading it. i will pray for you inshallah.
btw the media which you probaly read so much is ACTUALLY junk and you know
krypton978 1 year ago
@krypton978 i REJECT ur prayers, DONT PRAY TO ALLAH WHO IS SATAN HIMSELF, i rebuke allah al-satan in Jesus name
1Waddup 1 year ago
@1Waddup what basis do you have for this statement, what proof? other than what the media has told you. your bible was writen by man... the part that was given from god to jesus was lost, the romans/jews crucified jesus right in your eyes, why is the vatican in rome? why have the romans written there own bibles and handed them out so easily to everyone. not once in the bible does jesus proclaim to be god NOT ONCEE!!!, if you quote the bible dont quote anything man written please
krypton978 1 year ago
@krypton978 islam is still SATAN,that can NEVER destroy the bible, Mohammed's name will NEVER b in the bible, keep his junk name in that dirty stinking koran
1Waddup 1 year ago
@1Waddup
yet your here wasting your time on a joke?
hmm.
lail111 1 year ago
@lail111 who are u??
1Waddup 1 year ago
@1Waddup
I'm your worst nightmare now beat it.
lail111 11 months ago
@lail111 u are nothing
1Waddup 11 months ago
Islam is a lie.
dimphil 1 year ago
may Allah protect us from hell fire and may he grant u janat al fardouus.isn't it cool i hope i get to jannah and meet other inhabitants once a week at the market.
subhanallah my imagination is runing wild.who will I meet if i get there inshalalh,the sahabah?the prophets including mohamed pbuh.mary,asyiah,ayesha,fatima it would be one big party!lets all work harde 4 janat al fardous this world is nothing but an illusion.hope 2 see u all there my fellow brothers and sisters in islam. let's unite
lail111 1 year ago
@lail111 hhh yes protect u and give u 70 wifes or 40 wifes in heaven,while 1 woman will have only 1 man and this man will have other 39 or 69 wifes???is that really by god or by u pervert muslims.1 women=1 man,1 man=40-70 woman...woow mashallah ur religion is pervert!
kurdski1 1 year ago
@kurdski1
what are u on bout u piece of filth before u type think your not even making sense.
btw i'm not a man i'm a woman u airhead.
don't bother reply life's 2 precious 2 waste on stupid ppl like u.
lail111 1 year ago
@kurdski1 in heaven you can have whatever you want, stop trying to think your smarter than god, thats just ingnorance and you know it in your heart, are you telling me you wouldnt want that many wives and they arnt human wives, allah has created them especially for you, the human women that go jannah will have there own men or whatever they desire inshallah, why do so many people cheat on there wives these days its because men and women alike cant control themselves sometimes, ALLAH knows best
krypton978 1 year ago
@kurdski1
i'm a woman marshmellow brain before you throw around accusations maybe you should find out the facts.
<<<<rolls eyes.
i'm so sick of ignorant losers with the same old tired lines. do not bother reply.
lail111 1 year ago
@lail111 see you there bro, inshallah
krypton978 1 year ago
@krypton978
i'm sis thank you bro inshallah.
lail111 1 year ago
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I am very much excited about knowing the pleasure in the Jenna after watching the video. I will get 100 times more power to have sex with beautiful black eyed 72 virgin girls. Continuous sex in the Jenna.There is no Day and night. How beautiful is the Jenna. Allah is merciful to me. One thing i liked that i can have outdoor sex under the shade of Palm tree in the Jenna.
That is really great.
muslimgate 1 year ago
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We, Asians, are expert in selling vacuum cleaners to the world.
we sold the vacuum cleaner of judaism and chrisianity to the world.
we sold the vacuum cleaner of islam to the world
we sold the vacuum cleaner of Hinduism, sikhism and budhism to the world.
Ever wondered why no prophet or bhagwan was ever born in England, Poland, Holland, new Zealand, Australia or brazil.
we specialize in creating and selling the vacuum cleaners in the name of religion.
zulfitareen 1 year ago
We, Asians, are expert in selling vacuum cleaners to the world.
we sold the vacuum cleaner of judaism and chrisianity to the world.
we sold the vacuum cleaner of islam to the world
we sold the vacuum cleaner of Hinduism, sikhism and budhism to the world.
Ever wondered why no prophet or bhagwan was ever born in England, Poland, Holland, new Zealand, Australia or brazil.
we specialize in creating and selling the vacuum cleaners in the name of religion.
zulfitareen 1 year ago
nothing but porn in ur filthy paradise, ugh!
1Waddup 1 year ago
@1Waddup
yeah and then muslims don't understand why we don't want to go to jannah, I for one have had enough filth down here to also have to deal with in paradise
hannahr77 1 year ago
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zulfitareen 2 years ago
ok hang on, i actually have no proof that she is egyptian, the sister who turned me on to her, basically a student of hers, told me that she was a petite egyptian lady with a huge voice but I cannot prove that, I have never seen her to confirm it, Allah knows best.
wallahumustaan 2 years ago
is this a sister talking or a brother????????????????
let me know who it is inshala
72HoorAlAyn 2 years ago
it is an amaaaazing egyptian sister whose voice is actually MUCH bigger than she is.
In islam women need to "toughen up" their voices when they speak publicly so as not to charm those (men and maybe even some women)who may have a disease in their heart, but this sister already has a vocal condition that allows her to have a voice that causes her to be taken seriously as a teacher, she is amaaazing masahAllah. her voice is a gift
wallahumustaan 2 years ago
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What is the temperature of Hell in Centigrade? No Muslim seems to know. They say it is very hot. Hot like the sun? Then no human can survive there even a fraction of a second. Say it is 80 deg. Still human survival time will only be in minutes. Why is Allah wasting energy for a pointless exercise? Use your head. Make Hell a kool place to be. Send some air-conditioning engineers. Let's have a swell party in Hell. Allah too can join in the fun. Bring those virgins too!
hom5sch12uni5 2 years ago
there is no centigrade which can describe the heat of hell fire. The people will be made large for the fire thus they will feel more pain. When they are burnt through the flesh, their flesh will be created again so that they may burn again, and this continues. No energy is lost as god does not need rest nor gets tires, the fuel of the hell fire are men (people) and stones.
lalamusa1 2 years ago 6
lala
what's exatly is your point here? are you saying that ill-allah is behind hell, and what do you mean the ppl will be made large for the fire, ill-allah surely will have to work over time if he has to do all this.
hannahr77 2 years ago
Allah says be and it is.
lalamusa1 2 years ago
@hannahr77 seems like your knowledge is so less brother, everything is possible for Almighty Allah, he is the creator of the heaven and the earth, our lord and the master of everything, he just have to say be and it is.. seek for the truth and knoweldge before the end of times comes fear for your death, fear for your lord and the punishment of the judgment day..
banbux 1 year ago
@banbux
so if ill-allah just has ot say be and it is, so why don't your fake ill-allah say peace and we'll have why don't he say anything, I'll tell you his is deaf and dumb, I have no fear for ill-allah, however I do love and respect the HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL
hannahr77 1 year ago
@hannahr77 May Allah save you from the hell fire and may he show his mercy on you for whatever you have said... Ameen
banbux 1 year ago
@banbux
I believe in JESUS CHRIST AS MY LORD AND SAVIOUR period, and as such I'm saved from the lake of fire thank you my dear lost friend, and I am on the straight path believe you me and do you know the meaning of the word Amen, you hate the Jews and still you use a Hebrew word
hannahr77 1 year ago
@hannahr77 i dont hate the jews nor the Christians, i dont hate any of them, i define people by heart... to hate people is so wrong.. anyways i hope you would seek the truth brother.. take care
banbux 1 year ago
@banbux
shalom and may the GOD of Israel bless your heart
hannahr77 1 year ago
@hannahr77 actually hebrew and arabic are both semetic languages, meaning a lot of words sound the same for example, shalom and salam. amen and ameen. please understand that it is an arabic word as well and the quran is origianlly in arabic.
goody2shoes0832 1 year ago
@hannahr77 and dont get the wrong meaning out of the mercy i have said... Allah is very strict in his judgment for all the wrong doers, if only you would know how painful the punishment is you would have never said that its his mercy that can only save you, hence May Allah mercy be on you and brother always know that he is all merciful al forgiving.. May you get the right path Ameen
banbux 1 year ago
@banbux
and you knowledge is even less because I am not a brother, ill-allah is your lord alright, but he's not my lord and I am saved thank you very much, ill-allah holds no power over me and I DO NOT FEAR YOUR FAKE IDOL MOON ill-allah period
hannahr77 1 year ago
@hannahr77 lol dude, Allah is the Arabic name for what we call in english God. so what your saying is that the one true God that we pray to.. the same God that Abraham, Noah, Moses, Jesus, Adam, and Muhammed prayed to has no power over you? lol. Let me tell you something about Jesus (peace be upon him) in the Old T Jesus says that "The son shall not inherit the sins of the father." meaning that every single human being is responsible for himself. So how could he possibly die for your sins? think
prinzoner 1 year ago
@prinzoner
And so what if ill-allah in Arabic means god. He is still not my GOD, strange you ppl are saying this over and over again, and we say over and over again that it’s not the case, what’s with you ppl are you deaf or just hard of hearing? So let me say it loud and clear ILL-ALLAH HOLDS NO POWER OVER ME HE IS NOT MY GOD PERIOD. And of course we’re responsible for our own sins, that’s not the point of JESUS dying on a cross, you ppl are so lost and don’t even know it how sad
hannahr77 1 year ago
ok ...Im not gonna say she doesnt know what she's talking about because that would be wrong and i am no1 to pass judgement on her however I would say that she should do more research and study more alternatively I would say listen to 7 vids on tour of jannah its good and referenced with evidence...
xaz3emx 2 years ago
ok that's a black woman talking.....
but tell me this, aren't there women out there who look exactly like the virgins who are described in the koran? i mean women on earth.....so you have to wonder, are the hoor al ayn really true?
peanuts8 2 years ago
Why do you need a V-shaped oven in Hell: I thought Hell is hot enough as it is: by the way, what is the temperature of Hell in Centigrade? If it is more than 60 deg, it is unlikely anybody will survive there. Allah is wasting energy keeping it so hot. Why not make it a kool place to go?
hom5sch12uni5 2 years ago
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everbody knows that HELL is where da party's at!!!! i'm going to hell and i'm going to enjoy every MINUTE of it!!! ha ha hahaha
peanuts8 2 years ago
she is egyptian, so yes, black in a sense, but also arab. I think perhaps she speaks and east coast type of english but yeah, I thought she was african american when I first heard her voice. and no, there is nothing like the hur al ayn on earth, period. but alhamdulilah a woman of earth, if she gets to jannah, the hur al ayn will have nothing on her InshaAllah according to lectures I have listenend to and Allah knows best. doubtig the deen leads to kufr, don't do it. inshaAllah
wallahumustaan 2 years ago
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I can't wait till I get my hands on those
vergins in Paradise. We can have lot of fun. Allah too can join in the fun.
hom5sch12uni5 2 years ago
are u a muslim.???
devkamal 2 years ago
You must be young if not by age then by mentality... for that kind of comment the kind of sin you commit is enourmouse and the punishment will be great try checking out the speach on hell... because im sure that would probably settle your comments and childish behavioure that is so uncontrollable by you...
xaz3emx 2 years ago
I am a sex meniac. Are there any vergins there?
hom5sch12uni5 2 years ago
lol... thats not a good thing because there is a V shaped oven in hell for those who comit addultary and it ignites from underneath and burns while you try to escape you only return kinda like tryin to give up sex... you try run but keep fallin back into it... cant help it right... and yes they are virgins but only Allmighty will decide whether you get or do not get... answer your question I hope. salaam
xaz3emx 2 years ago
Do some know what sisters name is?
wassalamu alaikom
IMAZIGH 2 years ago
Look ... all the kids that die b4 puberty are automatically shahids and will enter Jennah. Ok ? .... You wrong " sister"
Anomiman 2 years ago 2
Hello,
She did not say that all the children that die before puberty do not enter paradise...The question was weather these kids that die before puberty are the kids that will serve the pple in Jennah. To that question she said the answer is false.
Take care and be steadfast...
SwitcherBullDstroyer 2 years ago
Is this an african american lady speaking ?... sounds like it ... very much.
...
Anomiman 2 years ago
does it matter? she is a muslimah
kalulu2007 2 years ago 2
wallahi their is no hadith saying what you are claiming ?
and if you believe that you are a kafir to ,because allah says no kafir will be allowed to enter paridise.. if you deny profets or setting partners to allah you are a infidel and will only enter the blazing fire in hell.....
servant0of0allah 3 years ago
no the muslims scolars all say that it is only muslims who will enter paridise
there wll be no infidel in paridise
if they deny a prophet they are infidels and the christians and jews deny muhammad saws
servant0of0allah 3 years ago
but Allah says in the quran that the christan ,sahabia will get their loan.i donnu if we can be so harsh.Let Allah decide. Moreover i read a hadith,that RasulAllah(sws) said"i have seen a man in paredise who was kafir but removed a tree from the way of muslims which made muslims to go ahead.
dostatdoram7 3 years ago
only muslims go to paredise....
people who make partners with allah will
go to hell...it is mentuoned in so many hadiths and in the quran many times..
muhammad (s.a.w) was sent to makind
so he can preach about the oneness of god....if kafrs go to jannah then there would of been no point of Allah to send messangers ....so you see...whoever belives in allah and that muahammad as his messanger will go to jannah(paredise)..
-asalamualikum
muslim4life14 2 years ago 10
@muslim4life14
muhammad was send to mankind, so now mankind was only in arabia, and if only muslims goes to jennah so be it because I would not want to go to a whorehouse and watch ppl fornicating all over the place keep you jennah, I'll take JESUS CHRIST any time over fake ill-allah
hannahr77 1 year ago
@hannahr77 jesus christ (PBUH) WILL BE IN jennah, inshallah! it isnt a whorehouse. it is simply a perfect world. just like you can be married here you can be married there except it is perfect. everything is perfect.
goody2shoes0832 1 year ago
@muslim4life14 Allah knows best my brother. He forgives whom he pleases. Leave the judging for the best of Judges
prinzoner 1 year ago
@muslim4life14 Mohammed is and was a joke
1Waddup 11 months ago
@1Waddup
lol at muslims cannot destroy the bible.you destroyed your own bible yourseleves.
you have no clue have you?
go find me the original bible,in its original language and while you at it find out the identities of the authors of the bible.
islam is satan?can you be anymore pathetic and idiotic?instead of parroting back what your pastor tells you provide me with evidence of this accusation.also point to where from your 300+bibles where jesus claimed 2 be God.how can God be 3in1?
lail111 11 months ago
@lail111 i dont need to prove to u NOTHING, i have nothing to say to u wen u desperately want ur pedophile prophet in my bible, eewwww
1Waddup 11 months ago
@muslim4life14 not only muslims go, christians and jews go too ~Ramadan Kareem :D
angela0797 6 months ago
So the Jews were those who followed Moosa (peace be upon him) and referred to the Tawraat for judgement at that time. When Allaah sent Eesa (peace be upon him), the Children of Israel were obliged to follow him and obey him, and so they and others who followed him became Christians.. When Allaah sent Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), as the Final Prophet and a Messenger to all the children of Adam, all of mankind was obliged to believe in him, and refrain from what he prohibited.
SayfullHaq 3 years ago
The aayah (interpretation of the meaning), And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers [Aal Imraan 3:85] is a statement that Allaah will not accept any way or deed from anyone, after sending His Final Messenger, except those that are in accordance with the laws of Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him).Prior to this, however, anyone who followed the Prophet of his own time was on the Straight Path.
SayfullHaq 3 years ago
allah alaam.
but as the quran says, you have had a long life.. soem people 60-70 years, you have had those years to change your ways. quran states we only ahve one chance.
people of jahanama will vry and beg allah for a second chancce.... he will reply that you had your chance in teh dounia. didnt he said 1000's of prophets. didnt he send the quran to mankind. a warning a sign. prophecy. but they still ignored the signs teh warnings the help. how stuburn and blind these people must be.
21Muslimah 3 years ago
Allahu Akbar
ruwayda1 3 years ago
subhanallah
CrazyGlue101 3 years ago
The speaker says: servants in heaven r "immortal" - is tht trying 2 comfort people about treating the boys as slaves? Tht is what they wld be. They aren't REALLY human, so we shld b okay w/having SLAVERY in HEAVEN? I don't want/need even 1 slave - EVER!
The speaker also says: people in heaven will discuss their former lives & how they r glad they properly "feared" Allah. Y do so many religions insist we fear God? So we will obey? Better to obey out of LOVE than FEAR, don't u think? Am I wrong?
IBelieveNoone 3 years ago
Self-knowledge, plus the understanding of the concept of Divine Judgment creates fear.
If you believe that there is a God, and He is infinite and perfect, and that one day you will stand in His presence, alone, to be judged...
Judged for every wrong, injustice, oppression and hurt you ever caused to any human or animal throughout your entire life...
If you truly believe this moment will come, fear will sink into your thoughts, no matter how much you might love God.
Fear is good
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
Although as a survival mechanism fear IS good - obeying God out of fear rather than love strikes me as profoundly sad. Our Creator fills my thoughts & my soul with light & laughter - fear is just not part of the equation. I find myself eager to do good & live right, not out of fear of God's wrath, but that the happiness it gives me is akin to the happiness I feel when contemplating God or praying. To me, God is forever my protector, my guide, my teacher.
Fear is healthy - but LOVE is better.
IBelieveNoone 3 years ago
Absolutely. But the fact remains that different people need different motivations. For some, love is truly enough. But for others fear does play a useful part. It is not really sad, because whatever works for one, does not always work for another. So in the end, whatever your motivation, if you end up in the same place, thats what should be counted.
Remember that God's guidance is for all types of people. And different people react to different aspects of the same thing.
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
I think I'll have 2 disagree w/u here. I don't think fear is a path to God - tho one might technically obey God's laws (according 2 the religion they believe imparts God's wisdom), if one only "obeys" out of fear, but still harbors evil desires at heart - even if one never acts upon them - then they r NOT on the path to God. Fear of reprisal doesn't cancel out ill intent in the mind/heart, does it?
Don't worry tho - I believe in reincarnation, so we all have PLENTY of time 2 get it right.
:)
IBelieveNoone 3 years ago
There are examples in human nature to support my argument about fear. But reincarnation?
That just doesn't make sense
The biggest problem with reincarnation doctrines that I have seen is that they all try to present a picture of purity of the heart and mind, yet they seem to forget that ego/desire is a part of the human self, its nature. By trying to cancel it out, the doctrine becomes unnatural.
Take Budhism for example, if everyone chose budhist monasticism, the world would grind to a halt.
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
What doesn't make sense is that the Omnipotent Creator of Everything would be shallow enough to give humans only ONE chance to become enlightened & thus closer to God. Why would God allow such a short amount of time for so difficult a task? Since I don't believe in God would discard ANYTHING that God made (ie. - sending souls to "hell") - I believe that we receive as much time as we need to become what God intends for us. No one is discarded or forgotten.
Of course, that's just my theory. :)
IBelieveNoone 3 years ago
One chance? I do not understand what you mean by this. Every day you wake up and have the chance to repent for your sins and act aright.
Every day we sin, and everyday we are given the chance to ask for mercy.
God's mercy has been described as limitless. In the Quran God plainly states that no one should ever despair the Mercy of Allah. Anyone who asks for it, will be forgiven and guided.
With that said, it is not easy. Thats the whole point. The hardship is what drives us to seek guidance.
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
By one chance I was meaning one lifetime. True, you have every day to repent - but is merely "repenting" enough? Sin is in the intent of an act, not necessarily the act itself, yes? One must also learn from mistakes/sins & that is something that might take some people several lifetimes to learn. Learning mercy/compassion/wisdom might come easy to one, yet take years for another. So, why NOT reincarnate the souls that need more time to learn?
That said, I see the reason & logic in your words. :)
IBelieveNoone 3 years ago
Ask yourself this question: Why would it take someone several lifetimes to learn that murder and rape is wrong?
Every child reaching puberty understands the difference between right and wrong. That is not the core issue, the issue is why does man choose evil/sin over good/virtue?
Let us take as an example, Stalin or Hitler. Do you think that they did not know that what they were doing was evil?
They chose evil because they did not believe that they would be held accountable for their actions.
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
Most who commit evil acts "justify" their actions. Stalin & Hitler put forth arguments in favor of their actions & they each had RABID devotees.
What is "evil" to u & I might not be to another.
For example - honor killings. Or slavery - slavery is "evil" these days, but in the past was seen as quite normal. How about female circumcision? I see that as QUITE evil & horrific - others consider it normal & "necessary".
So, some things might indeed take several lifetimes 2 realise as evil, u see?
IBelieveNoone 3 years ago
Here you are proposing Moral Relativism, with which I disagree completely. I believe that there are certain absolute ethical standards which are inherent in all human beings.
The majority will always follow the norm, which in some cases is deviation from their independent and inherent morality. Those who commit these evil acts know, in their heart of hearts that what they are doing is wrong.
Proof > If this was not true, there would be no need for a spiritual struggle, or enlightenment.
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
I suppose we will just have to agree to disagree. :)
"Ethical standards" are NOT inherent in all human beings - ethics are about morality, which IS relative according to what a person has learned. Sure, one can easily commit a crime/sin & verbally justify themselves while feeling privately that what they've done is wrong - but there are far more people who commit atrocities & think themselves justified. Like those hijackers on 9/11 - I'm sure they thought what they were doing was just & good.
IBelieveNoone 3 years ago
Personally, I find Moral Relativism in contradiction to the whole idea of what it means to be a human, a spiritual being. A creature which has been granted reason from the divine Himself. Reason in this case being an innate sense of the responsibilities associated with being God's vicegerent on Earth.
I just can not understand how Moral Relativism is compatible with Spirituality. If there was no absolute truth, what would be the point of the journey?
That is just simple deductive logic.
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
Absolute truth is seeing all POV's, seeing the entire picture, from the microcosm to the macrocosm, yes? I find that most people have a very difficult time seeing things from other people's perspective - they r too caught up in themselves to care. It is very difficult to be able to look beyond oneself to the "bigger picture". The journey to absolute truth is a long & difficult road - I believe God understands that (which is why I believe in reincarnation). Eventually we will ALL get there. :)
IBelieveNoone 3 years ago
We need to clarify something here. You need to know that your belief in Moral Relativism is not consistent with your belief in reincarnation. Moral Relativism, as they teach in philosophy, is a materialistic POV. Which states that if every POV is valid, then none are invalid. Hence, there is no real truth, and no real falsehood. Hence, materialistic POVs do not allow for anything spiritual to exist.
So what do you believe? Is there absolute truth? Do you believe reincarnation is that truth?
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
p.s. Take a look at the relationship between the parent and child. Does fear not play a role in the upbringing of the child? Does that fear cancel out the love? It does not, not in healthy relationships anyway.
God has created the parent-child bond as a reference to the relationship between man and God. That is why, in Islam next to obedience to God, is obedience to parents, especially your mother.
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
True - but God is NOT our mother or father - God is more than that, a bigger concept than I think we have words for. The parent-child bond is a natural survival mechanism. Would God have need of a survival mechanism?
I think that we attach human concepts 2 God 2 try 2 xplain God 2 ourselves & we sell God short by doing that. God is much deeper, finer, bigger than ANY human concept - u know?
So, tho fear FORCES one 2 obey - love evokes DESIRE 2 obey. That is why, 2 me, fearing God is sad.
:)
IBelieveNoone 3 years ago
Exactly, a survival mechanism. God does not need a survival mechanism, but we humans do.
If you believe that there is such a thing as Judgment Day, and everyone's actions will result in them going to either Heaven or Hell.
This is the price for our eternal soul, and our special status in creation. This survival mechanism is here to preserve our souls.
To quote from the Quran:
"... Verily, man is in loss, except those who believe and do righteous deeds..."
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
Well, I DON'T believe in a "Judgement Day". That is a scare tactic used by religions to scare one into obeying "The Rules" (or, what they say God's rules r). & I don't believe in a physical Heaven or Hell - since we can't quantify what atoms a soul is made of, nor measure the ethereal, we don't know what comes after. I believe that heaven/hell r a state of mind, rather than a place to go. If your soul is enlightened then it is in heaven. If it is burdened by hate/anger/etc. then it is in hell.
IBelieveNoone 3 years ago
I understand your intent, however you are contradicting yourself on a very crucial point. You wrote:
"we can't quantify what atoms a soul is made of, nor measure the ethereal"
True, but you are forgetting that even though we can not measure pain and pleasure, God can.
What this means is that God knows exactly how much pain Hitler caused for example. Because God was there, He was there in those concentration camps watching that injustice happen.
God knows exactly what every soul has earned
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
But please see that time is a HUMAN construct - we like things with a beginning & an end, nice & neat. We also like the idea of God punishing those that wrong us - which is quite a vicious mindset, don't u think?
Yes, Hitler was a monster - but do you think he thought of himself as a monster? Many people who grow up to be "evil" had very abusive/horrific early lives & that is what forms the basis of their twisted selves. God would know that & perhaps have mercy on even the most "damned" soul.
IBelieveNoone 3 years ago
I understand your point, however there is a misconception about the nature of punishment here. You believe that punishment is evil, and God would never employ evil. However, I already stated earlier that punishment is not evil.
Punishment for those who commit evil is JUSTICE and a way for the criminal to redeem himself.
Punishment is part of God's Mercy and Wisdom.
In Islam, the victims are told that they have the right to seek retribution, however, they are advised that forgiveness is best.
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
I do not think God thinks in terms of punishment & reward - those r human concepts. Because we R human & thus bound 2 the limits of physical lifetimes, we think of things in the short term. God is much more of a long term planner, yes? I can't see God creating something only to cast it aside. God loves ALL creations & WOULDN'T cast even the most willful aside. & tht is difficult 4 me 2 admit - I had a stepfather who was a VERY bad man - but I have 2 realise tht God loves him as much as me & you.
IBelieveNoone 3 years ago
i see u are very interested in islam. do research on it. and learn more about islam. find an imaam and ask him everything that pops up in ur mind. May Allah guide u.
sultan3878 3 years ago
Do you not see that your own words contradict your entire argument?
You yourself said that God is more of a long term planner. Yet you still fail to see past the short term affects of His punishment.
Punishment, in the long term, provides redemption for the sinner. It purifies him by neutralizing his faults. That is why Hell is compatible with Divine attributes of infinite Mercy.
Look at nature, is it not true that in order to purify gold, you must boil the impurities away?
Do you see now?
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
Hell is ETERNAL punishment tho, isn't it? What would be the purpose of eternal punishment other than vengence or retribution? What redemption is possible once one is cast eternally aside?
Now, punishment during a lifetime I can understand - sometimes one has to go thru difficult life experiences to learn. Sure, it is possible for punishment, in the long term, to redeem a soul - but only if not abandoned by God, yes?
p.s. in NATURE gold is not purified, that is a human invention. ;)
IBelieveNoone 3 years ago
In Hell, a second is a lifetime. But no, it is not eternal. Many Muslims seem to believe it is, but the Quran leaves the question quite open. And some oral traditions of the Prophet also point at it being temporary.
As for nature, if you observe natural law, everything is purified in such a way. Water, becomes vapor, becomes rain. Forests become ash, so soil can become fertile.
As Rumi noted for a seed to become bread it has to go through so many harsh stages before it can bring benefit to man
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
You know, I just have to say that I really enjoy talking to you - you are quite eloquent.
While we obviously will have to agree to disagree, I think your POV is very open and burgeoning with wisdom.
Blessed be, my friend - and please feel free to send me a message anytime! :)
IBelieveNoone 3 years ago
The feeling is completely mutual.
I checked out your channel. Looks like your a Zeppelin fan, right on :)
Lets keep in touch.
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
uhh thats nice,but psytrip20 could be a phsyco watch ive heard about that sort of thing on the net.lol
motocross179 3 years ago
are you saying its like a correctional facility,i think eternal pretty much means that! your time on earth is your purification phase,give your life to God , i have started.
motocross179 3 years ago
That would be eternity in Hell... but eternity in paradise is like this:
It means that every moment that you experience, is better then the moment that passed away before it.
Imagine going to a party and that point where you know that the sun is about to come up and everyone is about to pass out or go home, that point never comes.
Imagine a high, from which there is no coming down. And your "peak" never comes. Every moment, the effects get better and stronger.
That is eternity in paradise.
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
Could you restate your point, I am a little confused. Are you afraid that in eternity, you will get bored?
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
i wish u r right. i am upset about idea that non muslims burn in hell forever.I hope Allah release them after specific time.
kingkhan2 3 years ago
Remember bro, Non-Muslims are not promised hell to begin with. Jews, Christians and good believing people are allowed into paradise, as long as they believe in One God.
Also, look into the following verse of the Quran: Chapter 11 (HUD) verse 107. "Except as your lord please" hints.
And there is another verse in the Quran which says that those in hell will not be taken out until the camel passes through the eye of the needle. Well, according to the Bible, this miracle is possible: Matthew 19:26
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
And whoever seeks a religion other than Islām, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers. (Aali Imran 3:85)
SayfullHaq 3 years ago
This verse actually refers to the Muslims who choose to leave Islam for another religion.
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
and where did u get this from?
SayfullHaq 3 years ago
From the Quran. Because other verses in the Quran already guarantee paradise for Jews and Christians. If you take this verse out of context, then it would contradict other parts of the Quran.
It is however true, that if any Jew or Christian does not accept God as the one and only God, then he is not accepted into this category. But this also applies to Muslims, who may take pirs and other teachers and worship them.
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
And they say, "None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." These are their own desires. Say (O Muhammad Peace be upon him ), "Produce your proof if you are truthful." (Al-Baqarah 2:111)
SayfullHaq 3 years ago
Surah 5, Verse 69
Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
--- Sayfullhaq, you are misinterpreting the verses you are quoting. They are not addressing all Jews and Christians, but only those who are transgressors.
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
and where will i be able to get the correct interpretations from?
SayfullHaq 3 years ago
Did I not give you a clear and simple verse directly from the Quran? It needs no "interpretation".
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
i did not interpret them, i just gave the the ayat (verse) in the english language.
SayfullHaq 3 years ago
Then how do you explain the contradiction? Obviously it is not because the Quranic verses contradict each other. What else could it be other then your interpretation of the verses you provided. The verse I provided is very clear and simple. The other verses do have to be taken in their proper context.
Muslims Scholars agree that Jews and Christians will enter Paradise if they keep to the worship of the one true God.
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
there are contradictions in the quraan... and all verses have to be taken in their proper context.. check the tafsir of that verse and the verses i have quoted and paste them here... and plz tell me what scholars agree with your opinion?
SayfullHaq 3 years ago
i mean no contradictions in the quraan!!!
SayfullHaq 3 years ago
The tafsir of all mainstream Quran translations recognize that Jews and Christians are promised paradise (those who do not worship others besides Allah). This is why I do not understand where you are getting your interpretation from.
The verse I provided states this very clearly and simply.
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
Tafsir Ibn Kathir, which is the most widely used tafsir book says:
SayfullHaq 3 years ago
As far as the Jews are concerning, their faith meant believing in the Tawraat (original Torah) and following the way of Moosa (peace be upon him) until Eesa(jesus) came, after which whoever continued to follow the Torah and the way of Moosa, and did not leave this and follow Eesa, was doomed. As far as the Christians are concerned, their faith meant believing in the Injeel (original Gospel) and following the laws of Eesa; whoever did this was a believer whose faith was acceptable to Allaah,
SayfullHaq 3 years ago
until Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) came, after which whoever did not follow Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and leave the way of Eesa and the Injeel that he had been following before, was doomed.
SayfullHaq 3 years ago
I was not aware Ibn Khatir interpreted these words as such. In my view, the contradict the verse which quoted. The tafsir I have is Muhammed Ali. And I have heard many times from scholars things which contradict this view of Ibn Khatir.
Besides, the verse of the Quran I provided is clearly contradicting Ibn Khatir anyway so its a moot point.
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
what is the tafsir (interpretation) of muhammed ali???.... you gave me the english translation, which i didnt disagree with.
SayfullHaq 3 years ago
Surah 5 verse 69 does not have any commentary in my copy of the Quran, presumably because it is so simple and clear already.
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
u get a better reward for ur fear of Allah than for ur love for Him. All praise is due to Allah, the Almighty, the All Praiseworthy, may He grant us the highest abode of heaven for Eternity, ameen.
awadmill 3 years ago
I don't really care about "rewards" for my fearing God appropriately. I'd much rather just love God - God is my protector, my savior, my teacher, my beloved. Everything of everything is glory to God and the mere thought of God makes me want to smile and dance and sing with happiness. I do not fear God and I never will. God is my rock, my foundation - I yearn to be closer to God. WHY should I fear my wonderful Creator? Why would anyone?
God is great. Blessed be. :)
IBelieveNoone 3 years ago
Those who fear Allah alone, do not fear anything in this world. Those who don't fear Allah fear the worldly fears. You cannot have two fears in your heart. The more you fear Allah the less you fear the difficulties the world has to offer.
pashaj92 3 years ago
A very logical response - but I still have to disagree. I just have no fear of God in my heart - only love & reverence & joy. I don't think God would ever destroy a soul, throwing it away into "hell" for disobedience. That's revenge, which is a very HUMAN concept. Loving, rather than fearing, God makes me fear the difficulties of life much less, secure in that protection. I can always trust God to be with me & teach me what I need to become enlightened (& thus closer to God).
IBelieveNoone 3 years ago
Self-knowledge, plus the understanding of the concept of Divine Judgment creates fear.
If you believe that there is a God, and He is infinite and perfect, and that one day you will stand in His presence, alone, to be judged...
Judged for every wrong, injustice, oppression and hurt you ever caused to any human or animal throughout your entire life...
If you truly believe this moment will come, fear will sink into your thoughts, no matter how much you might love God.
Fear is good
PsyTrip20 3 years ago
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bashirali1985 4 years ago
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Adeel278 4 years ago
Bismillah Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem,
The second question asked was claimed to be true, "The people of paradise will gather once a week at the market"
This is the first time I've heard of this, does anyone know of any evidence to this? And who is the speaker?
illusionZlox 4 years ago 2
As far as I know in paradise there will be no need for a market since there is no hunger or illness, moreover, the slightest whims of the companions of paradise will be answered to and all they have to do is simply think or wish in their heads for so and so and they will have it.
Well jazakum Allah kheir,
asalaam alaykum wa rahmat Allah wa barakato
illusionZlox 4 years ago 2
there is no hunger but things will be done for pleasure, please read about this yourself its the only way youll really learn. but yes there will be a market but for pleasure not need, and in paradise we will eat and drink, its in the hadith get yourself them.
lalamusa1 4 years ago
Yes i know quite well that everything there will be done for pure pleasure. The wine will be purest of wine and without any alcohol or any negative or bad effects. The fruits will be identical for sake of familiarity but the taste of it will be uncomparable! ... This however does not state that there is needs for markets. I don't think everytime you want something 'oh ran out, got to go to the market... rather i think it's more heavenly if what you want comes to you when u want it... don't you?
illusionZlox 4 years ago
lalamusa1, i had asked if u knew of any evidence for this, can u site the hadith and what is the authenticity of the source? instead u tell me to read the hadith but forgot to state or mention it!
illusionZlox 4 years ago
I have heard that, but I havent seen any evidence. Once a week they will gather at that market, and when they return, their companions will tell them, You are even lovelier than you were before. Maybe its like a Jumah, but for Jannah? May Allah enter us into Jannah so that we can find out!
MuslimGhost 4 years ago
I am not sure that this woman is right about the young boys serving in Jannah not being children from here as everyone will become immortal in Jannah.
HananOZ 4 years ago