I think Jesus is telling you that everytime you smoke, you're staining Him. He is within you. You are the Lord's temple. He want's you to quit smoking.
"Check out my YouTube channel/playlists and websites for present-truth materials, Three Angels' Messages and God's last-mercy warning to His people in these last days.
Papacy = Antichrist / Little Horn / Beast from the Sea
Roman Catholicism = Whore of Babylon
Investigative Judgement has commenced in 1844 (1st Angel's Message)
Ellen G. White, 1827-1915 = End-time Prophet Sent of God
7th-day Sabbath = Seal of God
Sunday Worship to be Enforced as Mark of the Beast"
@kurthf74 yes i was baked as a mofo writing that , and everyday is already my heaven my friend. i shouldve said WEED LORD i suppose lol and who says jesus never had a woody anyway hahaha
@DWR244 Not in the slightest, every time i cook i look for an image of jesus on a burnt steak or fish finger, if people are willing to pay, then the highest bidder is more then welcome!
Hey... Dude... I can... like... totally see Jesus here in this ashtray... and he's smokin'. Wow man... I think I see him too... here give me a hit off that.
You should-a seen who I saw in my pizza last night!
Today I saw the face of Jesus on a piece of my morning shit. But, before I could grab my camera my disgusted wife flushed Him down the toilet! I was devistated. She refused to believe me and wouldn't even look at it. She just held her breath and flushed "The Face on Feces". I'm starting to hate that closed minded bitch.
WOW! Personally monogrammed Jesus ashtrays.. that's cool idea.. We could make a killing in Rome with those! Better be careful though. Since the Jews own all the patents on ALL Christian idols and symbols, you would have to run it by them first..LMAO
hey dudes!! just to give you a little advice, Did you know that you can use the pages of the Bible for rolling joints? good stuff to smoke, except the letters and their fucking ink!! I particularly recommend the pages of the apocalypse, i've never really read this shit with too much attention but................................I've smoked it with weed.
Yeah jesus wants to apear on an ashtray... wtf ... why doesnt he appears in something more useful or more incredible... btw how in the hell do u beileve is jesus.. has anyone of us see his face... THERE R NO PICS OF HOW JESUS LOOKED ALIKE!! SO u can smoke those ashtrays again .. man haha
i remember my dog take a crap once and what do you know, i saw the lords face in it. talk about holly shit. people from all over came to see my dogs poop and to inhale his glory!
@fartsam08: exactly ... God cannot be falsified and does not exist in the natural world in an objectifying sense (like Santa Clause), where things are falsifiable, quantifiable, etc.
@cbwtf... one day you will open your eyes && believe that God well & truly does exist... it may happen in away that only you will understand and if you dont believe thats up to you but as a believer in God i know where i'm going to b4 after death enternally serveing God at his thrown.. BELIVE IT OR NOT!!!
So, god didn't show up when the Holocaust happened, didn't show up during the massacre of thousands during the Crusades, didn't show up to help those in 9/11, didn't show up during the Asian Tsunamis or Hurricane Katrina, didn't show up during the Bubonic Plague, and didn't show up in my life yet (I'm agnostic). However, he shows up in an ashtray...yup, god works in "mysterious" ways.
This is great ART! I call the art form ABSTRACT EXTRACTIONISM and is how I invented the Old Man in the Peanut. Simulacra is more about a replica that takes the place of the real object over time and Pareidolia was only first used in 1994 despite micro mirroring macro since the dawn of time. Most words to describe replicas have a bias towards WHY they exist as opposed to just the fact that they do. visit .peanutcarvings. to learn more...
read this it really works!!!!!!!!!!!!!! put your hands on your chest both hands and think of a crush or bf............... tomorrow they will kiss u say they love u or ask u out but here is the catch put this message on five other videos for good luck
loussianna- the problem is you have to understand the difference between the enemy and christ..and its very hard if you dont have him in ur heart. The holy spirit..is inwardly. christ is not physical but spiritual
u know what !! i really wanna yell at ya ...abuse yew or what eva religion you follow.. though im a christian and totally against islam, hinduism etc. i dont even think of abusing any religion...because they all link to god...but i truly pray with ache and tears that wen u live this life u go though pain and difficulty till you dont apolajize jseus christ....bless ya
For you that watched this video... your life will be different then it was before. AND THAT WILL EFFECT ALL THE PEOPLE AND THE FUTURE! ITS AMAMAMAMAMAMAMAAZINGF.
you talk about something that the caos-theory discribes, every little thing effects every ofther thing that comes atfer it. It´s not just this video....
So if anyone tells you, There he is, out in the desert, do not go out; or, Here he is, in the inner rooms, do not believe it. For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
At that time if anyone says to you, Look, here is the Christ! or, There he is! do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. See, I have told you ahead of time.
This looks like the true image of Jesus Christ. This Image has also appeared on the moon. And people are seeing Jesus Physically.Jesus Has set foot on earth and is roaming the world.His return has come. The 2 awaited personalities Ra Riaz Gohar Shahi and Jesus Christ images have appeared on the moon. Both images can be seen on the full moon with naked eye. NASA are aware of these pictures.
The funny part is that so many people claim they see Jesus face when nobody has ever seen Jesus. Nobody knows what Jesus looked like. Or is it that what you see looks like Robert Powell, the actor who played Jesus of Nazareth? What if what you see is a famous drug dealer? I mean, Jesus would want to appear in the ashes of an ashtray, hoping someone will see him before a cigarette dives in his face? Get real...
uhm... i don't understand how people see Jesus in these things. They usually look like an guy with long hair, seeing as everyone's rendition of Jesus is different. Just my thoughts.
Jesus doesnt have to appear through picture in dirty ashtray. Not every man with long hairs is Jesus. Jesus didnt have long hair because Paul said in the New Testament: it is a shame for a man to have long hairs.
I saw the face of Jesus in my eggs this morning. A guy at the next table had the face of Satan in his pancakes. Man, when those two saw each other the sh*t hit the fan. It was a real mess. Waiter get pissed at me. Wanted me to clean it up. I said, "Hey man, Armageddon isn't pretty!"
25 And there shall be signs in the sun and in the moon and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, by reason of the confusion of the roaring of the sea, and of the waves: 26 Men withering away for fear and expectation of what shall come upon the whole world. For the powers of heaven shall be moved. 27 And then they shall see the Son of man coming in a cloud, with great power and majesty.
Yes, it is very like Jesus to appear in this way. I have seen it happen many times.
fholmx 3 days ago
I doubt that the King of kings and Lord of lords would appearn on an ashtray. Although it did look like him. Well, optical illusion I guess....
TheViolet76 2 weeks ago
My friend said you are all just a bunch of ASHOLES!!.. but i disagree:)
BedazzleGlitterGal 2 months ago
ashes to ashes, dust to dust!!!
BedazzleGlitterGal 2 months ago
Because we all know Jesus smoked a pack a day right?
florenmage 2 months ago
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Jesus ChrASHTRAY!!
malcolmmorin 3 months ago
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malcolmmorin 3 months ago
watch?v=DNigEbTTzMQ jesus' face
DaddyIProductions 4 months ago
Jesus' face watch?v=DNigEbTTzMQ
DaddyIProductions 4 months ago
Jesus' face on a moth watch?v=DNigEbTTzMQ
DaddyIProductions 4 months ago
watch?v=DNigEbTTzMQ jesus' face on a moth
DaddyIProductions 4 months ago
I think Jesus is telling you that everytime you smoke, you're staining Him. He is within you. You are the Lord's temple. He want's you to quit smoking.
dylansuppiah 5 months ago
God bless this miracle.
MabiSayo 5 months ago
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Jesus in my ass--'
Luc4151 6 months ago
Jesus is everywhere these days, on toast, in cheetos, potato chips and now in an ashtray
creepymeeper 6 months ago
@creepymeeper thank you. why is it that he only appears in food?
animekitten1 6 months ago
cool!!! how long did it take you to make that?
NYMusicManiac 7 months ago
@NYMusicManiac cool!!!! About Seven Days!
kurthf74 7 months ago
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"Check out my YouTube channel/playlists and websites for present-truth materials, Three Angels' Messages and God's last-mercy warning to His people in these last days.
Papacy = Antichrist / Little Horn / Beast from the Sea
Roman Catholicism = Whore of Babylon
Investigative Judgement has commenced in 1844 (1st Angel's Message)
Ellen G. White, 1827-1915 = End-time Prophet Sent of God
7th-day Sabbath = Seal of God
Sunday Worship to be Enforced as Mark of the Beast"
SeventhDayRemnant 7 months ago
I would continue putting out lit butts out on his face
Derail07 8 months ago
thats not jesus that charles manson
MegaLink117 8 months ago
Was this taken on ash Wednesday?
Ulfvaldr2012 8 months ago 2
IT'S A MIRACLE XS
DarkMind95 9 months ago
@kurthf74 yes i was baked as a mofo writing that , and everyday is already my heaven my friend. i shouldve said WEED LORD i suppose lol and who says jesus never had a woody anyway hahaha
zwareshag 9 months ago
@kurthf74 shut up you clearly hate jesus
imafoolforChrist 9 months ago
jesus would not exept his face in an ashtray bocouse smoking is bad and nobody has seen proof that jesus looks like this
BADASSXXXSNIPER 9 months ago
O LAWDY IT MUSTS BE THA LAWD
kaa3164 10 months ago
yup he is telling you to stop smoking and if you don't.... next time he'll come to you somewhere else hahaha :p
jessicasamaan777 11 months ago
Jesus is smoking hot.
royalsteven 11 months ago
do i realy have to say it, for all you brain dead people out there... god doesnt exist!!! fuck me!
13lackOut 11 months ago
@13lackOut then explain ghosts
Owner892 10 months ago
Jesus is telling you all to quit smoking! :D It's bad for you!! I'm doing the e-cig and it's doing pretty good so far. :)
Belladonna878 1 year ago
@kurthf74
im not sure if you know!
but you should! if you don't!
smoking will fuck you up!
TheSeair 1 year ago
@kurthf74
im not sure if you know!
but you should! if you don't!
smoking will fuck your lungs up and give you cancer!!
TheSeair 1 year ago
Stop being mean I hope y'all burn in hell for saying that Jesus smokeing!!
everytypeofgirl109 1 year ago
sell it to golden palace.com i want 20% finders fee. HAHAHAAA
justinhove 1 year ago
@kurthf74 hey my nickname is jebus lol
mysteriothebest619 1 year ago
@kurthf74 dont test him.he'll burn you in hell.
godsmane10 1 year ago
that looks more like abraham lincon
pokemonkiller20 1 year ago
@DWR244 lol
30Ciaran 1 year ago
@DWR244 Not in the slightest, every time i cook i look for an image of jesus on a burnt steak or fish finger, if people are willing to pay, then the highest bidder is more then welcome!
30Ciaran 1 year ago
@30Ciaran Look at all the wasted 'Jesuses" we flush down the loo every day, all e-bay worthy (?)
kurthf74 1 year ago
@DWR244 Mate, have you never heard of the things being sold for thousands? like toast, buns, tree stumps.. serious business!
30Ciaran 1 year ago
Pffftttt..... Pfftt... Pft.
Exhale... cough... cough... cough...
Hey... Dude... I can... like... totally see Jesus here in this ashtray... and he's smokin'. Wow man... I think I see him too... here give me a hit off that.
You should-a seen who I saw in my pizza last night!
totalsurreal 1 year ago
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Today I saw the face of Jesus on a piece of my morning shit. But, before I could grab my camera my disgusted wife flushed Him down the toilet! I was devistated. She refused to believe me and wouldn't even look at it. She just held her breath and flushed "The Face on Feces". I'm starting to hate that closed minded bitch.
gordie225 1 year ago
Man what a wasted opportunity, you coulda made some serious cash from that!
30Ciaran 1 year ago
jesus loves parties and he loves ashtrays, any face found in something must be jesus or mary, remember that rule
timeclock232 1 year ago
STOP SMOKING JESUS:(
soccergirl472 1 year ago
Looks more like Muhammad to me.
Bert2DX 1 year ago
@mouhdie, lol good one mate!
visualart139 1 year ago
WOW! Personally monogrammed Jesus ashtrays.. that's cool idea.. We could make a killing in Rome with those! Better be careful though. Since the Jews own all the patents on ALL Christian idols and symbols, you would have to run it by them first..LMAO
masternumber22 1 year ago
close...
but no cigar...
al3699 1 year ago
And you actually believe jesus would show up in an ashtray?- Seek help.
wavular 1 year ago
very appropriate place for em'
InSinGrin 1 year ago
@InSinGrin YOU MUST BE QUEER?
MERCURHILLMANIAC 1 year ago
That's not Jesus - it's Kris Kristofferson!
scabbernacker 1 year ago
He can appear to any body like he said I have not come to save the good but the bad
luismariluz 1 year ago
I didn't know jesus was a smoker, interesting
Casper3417 1 year ago
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hey dudes!! just to give you a little advice, Did you know that you can use the pages of the Bible for rolling joints? good stuff to smoke, except the letters and their fucking ink!! I particularly recommend the pages of the apocalypse, i've never really read this shit with too much attention but................................I've smoked it with weed.
growupordie 1 year ago
Yeah jesus wants to apear on an ashtray... wtf ... why doesnt he appears in something more useful or more incredible... btw how in the hell do u beileve is jesus.. has anyone of us see his face... THERE R NO PICS OF HOW JESUS LOOKED ALIKE!! SO u can smoke those ashtrays again .. man haha
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i remember my dog take a crap once and what do you know, i saw the lords face in it. talk about holly shit. people from all over came to see my dogs poop and to inhale his glory!
MrZHXOZ 1 year ago
@cbwtf people say there is no proof that god exists....but theres no proof that god doesnt exist...
fartsam08 1 year ago
@fartsam08: exactly ... God cannot be falsified and does not exist in the natural world in an objectifying sense (like Santa Clause), where things are falsifiable, quantifiable, etc.
JayCharlesLander 1 year ago
@cbwtf lawl your the biggest athy i know by far lol no one explained it better than u just did
asianstyle666 1 year ago
@cbwtf where did you geather ur dumb ideas?!! :)
83natia 1 year ago
its chuck norris!!!
liche81 1 year ago 8
@cbwtf... one day you will open your eyes && believe that God well & truly does exist... it may happen in away that only you will understand and if you dont believe thats up to you but as a believer in God i know where i'm going to b4 after death enternally serveing God at his thrown.. BELIVE IT OR NOT!!!
krisinta1 1 year ago
@krisinta1 ha ha ha ha ha ha, hahaha,,,, hahaha hahahahah
grouta 1 year ago
God Exist....I and All Armenians believe in God and it will ласт forever........
Narek465646 1 year ago
then who made us
asherleez 1 year ago
ur retarded so is kurth74 BOTH MENTALY ILL
EX4J 2 years ago
wow... Jesus is SMOKIN! hahah!
secretdekoi 2 years ago
that's pretty Jesusy !
foxpawz 2 years ago
hey jc
killroyify 2 years ago
jesus is telling u to stop smoking lol
95oblivion 2 years ago
"jesus in an ashtray" sounds like a really crappy song... got the lyrics and guitar chart done yet?
chunktuff 2 years ago
i think christians have simply losted.
aftazita 2 years ago
lmfao wow, way to draw your 'lord's' face in your astray in a feeble attempt to 'freak people out'.
holdenbane 2 years ago
did u sell it
NRA94 2 years ago
everybody knows it's billy connolly!!!
joedemull 2 years ago
HOLY MOLEY! I see jesus :D
Lol.
NatalieexBaybeeOx 2 years ago
LoL nice one ^_~/
sattanhellsing 2 years ago
I buy your ashtray $100 000 !
sattanhellsing 2 years ago
i would say that looks a bit more like aunt jemima than jesus.
Flassk 2 years ago
this is sorta stupid, i dont think jesus, as holy and great as he is, would not want to apear in an ashtray
Heatwave95 2 years ago
but he may be telling them not to smoke god works in wierd ways y not his son?
Chinese0Chicken 2 years ago
So, god didn't show up when the Holocaust happened, didn't show up during the massacre of thousands during the Crusades, didn't show up to help those in 9/11, didn't show up during the Asian Tsunamis or Hurricane Katrina, didn't show up during the Bubonic Plague, and didn't show up in my life yet (I'm agnostic). However, he shows up in an ashtray...yup, god works in "mysterious" ways.
colli274 2 years ago 5
Jesus is telling you to stop smoking,
mouhdie 2 years ago 56
haha
Heatwave95 2 years ago
@mouhdie Nope, he's telling to party harder :D
peterjj1991 1 year ago
That's not Jesus. It looks more like Willie Nelson to me.
ftwsmp 2 years ago 4
wtf.....it does!!! XD
wolf333444 2 years ago
stop cry out the name of JESUS for such things....
psheckler 2 years ago
Thats not Jesus its Ted Nuggent. Its a common mistake.....
ATHF
Iwantedtoknow16802 2 years ago
aqua teen hunger force? it looks more like danzig with a stache
freekydeekyganja 2 years ago
How on earth did you obtain jesus's ash tray? ಠ_ಠ
Vanevalence 2 years ago 31
@Vanevalence Jesus made them duh
thedirtys2006 1 year ago
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This is great ART! I call the art form ABSTRACT EXTRACTIONISM and is how I invented the Old Man in the Peanut. Simulacra is more about a replica that takes the place of the real object over time and Pareidolia was only first used in 1994 despite micro mirroring macro since the dawn of time. Most words to describe replicas have a bias towards WHY they exist as opposed to just the fact that they do. visit .peanutcarvings. to learn more...
ismaelcavazos 2 years ago
read this it really works!!!!!!!!!!!!!! put your hands on your chest both hands and think of a crush or bf............... tomorrow they will kiss u say they love u or ask u out but here is the catch put this message on five other videos for good luck
hpatel4610 2 years ago
loussianna- the problem is you have to understand the difference between the enemy and christ..and its very hard if you dont have him in ur heart. The holy spirit..is inwardly. christ is not physical but spiritual
116bumpit 2 years ago 2
I think , that this jung company wanted to make some funny and they do that face
MsAdeleN 2 years ago
OMG that's not Jesus that's my DAD!!!
Janus1981BR 2 years ago
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jesus come back becoz there is no cigar in hell!! fukk u jesus!!
numaroth021 2 years ago
u know what !! i really wanna yell at ya ...abuse yew or what eva religion you follow.. though im a christian and totally against islam, hinduism etc. i dont even think of abusing any religion...because they all link to god...but i truly pray with ache and tears that wen u live this life u go though pain and difficulty till you dont apolajize jseus christ....bless ya
loosedbug 2 years ago
For you that watched this video... your life will be different then it was before. AND THAT WILL EFFECT ALL THE PEOPLE AND THE FUTURE! ITS AMAMAMAMAMAMAMAAZINGF.
rosatrasko 2 years ago
you talk about something that the caos-theory discribes, every little thing effects every ofther thing that comes atfer it. It´s not just this video....
Lakanomanunda 2 years ago
he came all the way from heaven onto an ash tray to tell you to stop fucking smoking.
omgodsword 2 years ago 4
if he had turned up earlier he could have done that trick with the wine
highrisetim 2 years ago
(continue matt 24:23-27
So if anyone tells you, There he is, out in the desert, do not go out; or, Here he is, in the inner rooms, do not believe it. For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
jaysbingo 2 years ago
please, shut up.
worldslayer 2 years ago
Matthew 24:23-27
At that time if anyone says to you, Look, here is the Christ! or, There he is! do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. See, I have told you ahead of time.
jaysbingo 2 years ago
This looks like the true image of Jesus Christ. This Image has also appeared on the moon. And people are seeing Jesus Physically.Jesus Has set foot on earth and is roaming the world.His return has come. The 2 awaited personalities Ra Riaz Gohar Shahi and Jesus Christ images have appeared on the moon. Both images can be seen on the full moon with naked eye. NASA are aware of these pictures.
loussianna 2 years ago
he said stop smoking weed
kamotepotatas 2 years ago 4
OH MY GOD!! WINNIES GOLD!
adhoonks1990 2 years ago
I think Prof. Trelawney needs to see that
X3
ilikzim 3 years ago
It looks more like Oscar Wilde!
igystrvigy 3 years ago
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TobyShively 3 years ago
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TobyShively 3 years ago
o my god
Tika03 3 years ago
Couldn't he choose a better place to appear??? all right.. I'm out of here
hzisasson 3 years ago
looks like charles manson!!
joyouslife4all 3 years ago
looks more like jim morrison with a weired hairdo to me...
matzedude 3 years ago 2
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this means you're going to HELL, via the ashes and flames you caused. Sucks to be you.
TorontoBoi 3 years ago
its a paper covererd with some ashes or something....sorry guys/gills ;-P
animalbabefan 3 years ago
It's John Ritter.
mindfodder 3 years ago
The funny part is that so many people claim they see Jesus face when nobody has ever seen Jesus. Nobody knows what Jesus looked like. Or is it that what you see looks like Robert Powell, the actor who played Jesus of Nazareth? What if what you see is a famous drug dealer? I mean, Jesus would want to appear in the ashes of an ashtray, hoping someone will see him before a cigarette dives in his face? Get real...
clovince 3 years ago
uhm... i don't understand how people see Jesus in these things. They usually look like an guy with long hair, seeing as everyone's rendition of Jesus is different. Just my thoughts.
marzFbabeyyyx0 3 years ago
maybe its the cigarette manufacturer or the mona lisa....or some woman who died of lung cancer
afgan01 3 years ago
the church in delungra?
AusStorm 3 years ago
Jesus doesnt have to appear through picture in dirty ashtray. Not every man with long hairs is Jesus. Jesus didnt have long hair because Paul said in the New Testament: it is a shame for a man to have long hairs.
joulbid 3 years ago
did jesus say 'number fifteen your chicken parmigiana is ready, i will survive'? or was that a disciple?
nrosee 3 years ago
u stupid ppl this is a pic of the devil
dufted2 3 years ago
Maybe hes trying to tell you dont smoke!
ezee360 3 years ago
I saw the face of Jesus in my eggs this morning. A guy at the next table had the face of Satan in his pancakes. Man, when those two saw each other the sh*t hit the fan. It was a real mess. Waiter get pissed at me. Wanted me to clean it up. I said, "Hey man, Armageddon isn't pretty!"
IYAMNI 3 years ago
Like i said. Theres an image of jesus on the ash tray. Theres just ash lying over the top...
smilie120 3 years ago
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always knew it. jesus is a fag
whipitbitch 3 years ago
lol fuckin classic!
iouakick 3 years ago
heh. thats pretty kool but how do u know its jesus and not sum1 else?
emeliz126 3 years ago
blatenly fake
W3B5TA 3 years ago
Well no sh1/t !!
dylanhf 3 years ago
y reply to me? i dont rle need ur fukin imput if you avnt got anything worth while to say why waiste my fukin time? prick!
W3B5TA 3 years ago
bum hole
dylanhf 3 years ago
cos you smell that is why.. hahahahaha why post comments if you dont want a reply .. what do I care ? reply reply reply.. does it hurt?
dylanhf 3 years ago
seriously just fuk off u reject i couldnt giv a fuk about ur patheitc comments u geek get sum fukin friends!
W3B5TA 3 years ago
ha ha ha .. feeling a little tense? a little agro? getting a little wound up? you still smell .. very bad ..
dylanhf 3 years ago 2
I'm a believer!
Luke 21: 25-27
25 And there shall be signs in the sun and in the moon and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, by reason of the confusion of the roaring of the sea, and of the waves: 26 Men withering away for fear and expectation of what shall come upon the whole world. For the powers of heaven shall be moved. 27 And then they shall see the Son of man coming in a cloud, with great power and majesty.
polishandproudx 3 years ago
Are you on drugs, I mean what kind of cigarettes were you smoking?
talkychris 3 years ago 2
no its not just you, that sucks that somebody would do that (put cigarettes out) to the image of our Lord and Savior.
fireballkiller 3 years ago
is it me or does the ashtray have jesus on it already and its just smothered with ashes so u cant see the body? o.o
RandomSpeech 3 years ago 7
It looks like my darling Suzi
utkumut7 4 years ago
Holy smokes batman !
bushdoof 4 years ago
A true Festivus Miracle...
dylanhf 4 years ago