No the Rabbi and Rev. were disheartened because they knew that Hitchens will roast in Hell and come out as a Hit-c-hens only to be eaten by Satan as an alternative to KFC hens
You know sometimes the things Hitchens said made me cringe because he could be condescending to believers and I don't believe this is the best way to get our point across... but you can not disparage the truth and validity of his rants. He knew better than all how to hammer down his points and you have to respect that. A huge loss for the world!
"Cringe" now that is Hitchens all over even to his devout supporters who forgive him for making them feel that way. Truth my man you would not know it if it hits you in the face. Hitchens no loss to the world atleast his demise would mean saving the ozone layer from depletion resulting from his common rants
A celestial North Korea... Always a good reference to hear him utter. Of course it's mere coincidence, but shall we all close our eyes to reason for a minute and laugh at the fabulous scheme the lord our saviour played out when he sent Christopher to heaven two days before he took Kim Jong-Il's life? I wonder if Kim gets a seat next to god, and if they play tricks with Christopher just for their entertainment.
@KryzMasta says "You lived a fabulous life Christopher!" yes a fabulous life at our cost talking so much hot air almost contributing to global warming. He is a man of all things wrong and not afraid to say it, plays the blame card, a distractor but never a leader of men. Hitchens a frusterated man sees the wrongs can not do the rights so he talks and talks and talks his words will be blown away in the breeze and religion has out lived him.Where is he now? celesitial North Korea
@TruthIsSalvation Quite astonishing... You have the capacity of expressing yourself with language, yet aside from that you have absolutely NO CLUE about ANYTHING at all! This is remarkable - give your brain up for science after you die, you are some sort of miracle.
@TruthIsSalvation You realize you still actually haven't said anything that made sense, right? But your nickname explains it all: you believe in fairytales, and with that you already exclude yourself from any useful discussion without having said a single word.
Christopher Hitchens was a brilliant thinker, writer, commentator and debater. And you're a worthless piece of a human being. Therein endeth the lesson.
"endeth the lesson" UMMM yes ofcourse wise maaaster!
Hitchens not a thinker but a stinker. My worthn is in my humanity and not in my arrogance that I should teach you what to think as long as your thinking is in line with what I am writing, commentating and arguing. Great thinkers do not go around pocking and taking pot shots at everything they disagreed with. Great thinkers produce enlightenment not discourse. Hitchens is a bully a most disagreeable chap. Good riddens
@TruthIsSalvation So, what gives you the reason to talk shit about someone who has dedicated his life to open peoples eyes? To make people think? What have you done in your life?
@TruthIsSalvation First of all, Im from Norway, most of us are atheist, I don't need anyone to "unlock" my brain. Second this is maybe the third video I've seen of this guy, he is not well known in Norway cause we don't believe in stories, or do stuff based on these stories.
Im not idolizing this guy, but he has made a difference.
Based on what you just said, you do absolutely nothing for other people benefit from.
And Im not your child, and thankfully, not arrogant like you.
How do you know you are not my child, I have visited Norway a place next to noway.
What difference has he made with his stories. I disagree, you come across needing a brain storm. What! being an atheist makes you intellignent. Hitchens is a self serving media coaster in the guise of a scholar he rants like a commoner. His views while liked by some are offensive to others. He is divisive and a lying Islamophobic ARROGANT anti semitic git.I just hate liars! dont you?
@TruthIsSalvation Are you serious? The problem is that you can't deal with hitchens, because his not believing in stories, and he's not afraid to debate with people thinking otherwise. And he is discussing , not telling stories. You should know the difference,right?
And your comment on me living in Norway, being an atheists, proved you totally missed my point.
My father is an atheist,just like me, not a fuck up like you. And I do hate liars.
@TruthIsSalvation That is just crap and you know it. You don't understand what he's saying because you're in your own fantasy world. And the fact that you bring up nazies out of the blue, proves my point. There is no point in arguing with you, you don't make any sense.
@TruthIsSalvation No, you just don't get it. This whole thing started when you said its fine that Hitchens died, because you don't agree with him. That is low, and insulting to any normal human being. I don't give a fuck what people say, i don't wish anyone dead just because i don't agree with their opinion. I don't worship anyone, as i said I don't need to rely on anyone or anything to know whats real or not. Unlike you, who clearly lack common sense.
@Mister187um Calm down! reach for your medication chill out! your in danger of getting a stroke. I did not wish death to Hitchens or anyone else. I just think that NOW the fact that Hitchens is dead a divine act out of my control you will not catch me crying for him. And yes some people did cry when Hitler&Stalin died but I for one am bloooody glad that they will not breath the same air as me.If there is a God I'll hate to be in Hitchens grave. Now you can rant on again LOL
I did not claim that I was his father. Hell no i would not want to be his father. I just implied that did he realy know his true father. I know of many people who did many things with Norwegian married and unmarried women. I lie NOT
@TruthIsSalvation With your choice of wording it seems you were implying that he was your son, and either way your implied choice of words doesn't seem very religious...
Yah Yah Yah. Look take it any way you like I was in Norway and I played the field. people need DNA testing over there to check that no one else messed around with their mums when their husbands were playing away. Whats religion got to do with it. I think that you have been living with that fish far to long twonk
@Mister187um Come on i dare you to say anything bad about America. All of you are just jealous of American the land of the BRAVE and FREE. if you say anything bad I will have you deported to a concentration camp along with all of your elk. Bring it on if you dare... coward
You are the one who needs to be sent of somewhere, cause you need help.
When atheist are treated the way they are, and gay people can't be who they are, thats not free, is it? When people can't voice their opinion without someone wishing for their death, is not free. And to suppress people like you do is certainly not brave, its pathetic, and makes you look like cowards.
I cant deport you you did not defame America or American. Village people and atheists are all welcome in our Army. They can Kill Muslims what more freedom can they wish for, it will make Hitchens happy in his grave. Which one are you atheist or gay or both... who cares. if your gay and atheist please dont mention His name dont say the word God when you are carrying on ...okay see I am accomodating shame you can not change your nature
@TruthIsSalvation i'm a gay atheist: god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god
I am glde to see that you are scared of Americans not to dare to say anything about the Greatest nation and people in the world. say with me God Bless Ameeeerica
@TruthIsSalvation Wow, you don't understand english. You are from now on ignored. And I recommend everyone else to do the same. You live in your own little world. I wish you luck in life, you'll need it.
perhaps you need to make the climb up to my level but I doubt it because you are to busy stuck up your demigod Hitchens back side. The only shit blown on your face is that shit you call Hitchens
A nice take on institutionalized genital mutilation. I found the most outstanding explanation on exactly what it is and what it is designed to do, as the speaker mentions so vividly. The video is called LA PAROLA IN CUATRO I (pt. 3 of 5) There are four segments to this vid with many parts, but I (part 3 of 5) is exactly about genital mutilation, from a physiological, historical, and modern perversion of institution perspective. LA PAROLA IN CUATRO is awesome and I recommend it
Hitchens don't know what he is talking about, he doesn't know God, he only knows what misguided people do out of free will. No one likes the unknown and since Hitchens doesn't understand the concept of salvation, he rejects it. Please continue seeking the truth, this man doesn't knows it. God will reveal the truth if you decide to open your heart to Him.
@tuicharles Welcome to 'Merica, the country where "coming out" means admitting you have a logical thinking process, and can acctually realize religion is a bunch of bullshit...
@lederereddy I think if I was promised eternal happiness after I was dead I would wholeheartedly sacrifice myself for the good of others. I've read the Bible. I'm not awestruck by your god. I'm disgusted by it, and more disgusted by the fact people can still believe in it and justify all the terrible actions performed in it.
I wonder , Mr Hitchens, if there is a God who's intervened in human affairs, as Christ has, would you appreciate a leader like that? I doubt the North Korean's have ever had a dictator who was willing to sacrifice himself for the good of others.
Those of us who've chosen to enter Gods world have done so by choice and our worship is just appreciation, awe, and natural human expression over what we'll see as magnificence. You too, the bible says, will fall to your knees and honestly worship.
@lederereddy Gods world? Have you read even some of the 613 commandments in the old testament? That "world" is no better than North Korea: Worship, praise, jealousy, killing... punishing even the children of those who hate or disobey god (2nd com.). Hell, I can even burn a city in god's world if I think they have turned to "idol worship" (Deut. 13:17).
A being or person truly worthy of praise and worship wouldn't want it yet this, plus fear of punishment, is what gods world is mostly about.
@jbass02 Yes. The punishment for sin is death. We are guilty and we can't not sin. Holiness is not in our nature. That's obvious. So why hasn't God destroyed you and I by now? It's not His objective to destroy us. He's trying to call each of us out of the treachery of sin and into the pleasure of obedience. Rebellion is punishable by death. That's not what God wants but it is what we choose rather than obedience. Jesus has destroyed sins power but God's not forcing you or I to choose Christ.
@lederereddy Im always perplexed at theists I talk to who, it seems, never once in their life question the moral rigidity, and thus legitimacy, of the legend of original sin. To them its like oh yeah that makes sense: A perfect being (god) created me (an imperfect, sick, heap of trash) *and* left it up to me to continually trick myself into believing all of it, including the scapegoating story of Jesus, for fear of infinite torture for a finite “crime”. Classy.
@lederereddy I was wondering a few things about this ”getting judged” by God.
Does animals get judged?
Does bacterias get judged?
Does cancer cells get judged?
How does an infant who dies get judged?
How does a sperm get judged?
If some living things doesn't get judged, when does a living thing get ”good enough” to get judged? Where is the ”border” between getting judged and not getting judged?
I think the obvious answer is that it's narcissists who believe in God, can you change me? :)
@staraffinity "Do animals, bacteria, cancer cell, babies... I think the obvious answer is that it's narcissists who believe in God, can you change me? :)"
There's the letter of the law which states Do not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil or you will die. It was poison for man to eat and the whole of creation suffers from it to this day. But like many deadly poisons there is a remedy. That remedy is Christ's sacrifice on the cross. Jesus offers you the solution. Get it from Him.
@lederereddy Hmm, yes it's ”DO they gyet judged, not ”does”, don't know why I typed "does” but english isn't my naitive language. Anyway, I don't think you dodged my question. I guess there aren't good answers for them so I'm not surprised you did. ;)
@jbass02 I can tell by what you posted that you know next to nothing about the context of old testament scripture. There's not much sense in debating a subject when the opponent is ill-informed, wouldn't you agree? This type of brash commentary on the sensitive issues of life recorded in scripture are targets for disbelievers who try to exploit them and they have for centuries. All the rocks have been turned over, friend. God's impossible to prove wrong but anyone can say He's wrong.
@lederereddy Pardon me. Have I stumbled upon someone who *knows* what god really meant to say, other than what is actually written, in the 39 or so books of the old testament? Not only that, you even know how much I know about the old testament simply by the 2 verses I quoted from it. Tell me, what tangible reference to god (book, dvd, or tv channel) do you have that I do not have? because if you're re-interpreting (modernizing) the bible for yourself, then you're just writing your own bible.
@jbass02 "what is actually written, in the 39 or so books" That's the key to understanding, my friend. Searching the scriptures to see exactly what's being said and done. That's not the case when it comes to doubters, mockers, haters. They seem to be content to make judgements about things they don't understand, about times they don't understand and about God, who they assume isn't present. It's folly to commit yourself to the futility of discounting Gods word when scripture is for your benefit.
@lederereddy Here's how you are incorrect, and how youve exposed one of the many weaknesses in your position. First, many verses in the bible have no "context" other than how they read at face value. And if all a "doubter" has to do is read a few of these verses to you, word for word, to put u on the defensive where all u have left to do in response is attack the reader for being "ill-informed", that should, if you were alert enough, raise a flag about your only reference guide to god, not me.
Because if I, a doubter, cant read and interpret bible verses for *exactly how they read* without condescension and defense from U, a theist, well your position reduces down to something no better than say a scientologist; where only high-ranking scientologists can know or discuss all the truly absurd things they believe in -like earth was an alien prison planet, etc- but people who aren’t scientologists are just “ignorant and hateful” if they discuss the same things.
There is no argument. You cannot convince anyone of extreme faith or indeed mild faith as there is a well documented psycological condition where a person of faith will make the evidence/world fit their religion even when presented with ubdeniable facts. There are no winners only well made points to people who aren't listning.
when humans go to war or killing in favor for their religion they no longer belong to a religion no matter which one. it's written in all kinds of our holly books but we humans manage to interpret stuff as they fit us and that's our main sin
Forget Atheism. I for one like to take naps because it's a little slice of peace. Hell has no rest, ever. It's all evil, shame, murder, rebellion, damnation, dark, putrid, terror laden, relentless, hopeless, worthless, unsatisfying, insane, inescapable and tormented place. It's no fun to be with all your friends in a car that crashed, doors pinched shut, soaked in gas and burning. Atheism is a one way ticket to eternal and finite spiritual misery. God is surprisingly refreshing to know , now.
How true, Mr Hitchens! Atheist's are honest about one thing at least. They hate God and they want to go to hell. God gives us the desires of our heart. But I doubt there is a single one of them that isn't screaming and crying a violent regret of that prayer once the reality of their full and personal rejection of God in Christ Himself becomes an eternal irreversible error in their past and the escort to hell begins. Hell's not even necessary, except for people so proud they don't even need God.
@sinshyft117 He's as real as the fact that we are here. Sure, you may not be able to see Him but you do know deep down the reality that something besides oblivion interceded on the behalf of our existence. It's simple deduction. Oblivion does not have the power demonstrated throughout the universe of setting you and I into a habitat so clearly designed to reveal our desperate need for God. Oblivion isn't creative. Only God is. You know you're not your own creator as does your parents and theirs.
@lederereddy ”...but you do know deep down the reality that something besides oblivion interceded on the behalf of our existence.” Deep down I know I know nothing and drawing conclusions based upon that doesn't feel very wise to me.
@staraffinity "Deep down I know I know nothing and drawing conclusions based upon that doesn't feel very wise to me." What's your definition of wisdom? What do we need wisdom for except when it comes to the unknown?
The first and foremost reason I subjected myself to Gods Holy Spirit was because I am aware of sin. Personal sins. Whether they were against God, I wasn't sure, at first, but the bible led me to believe God was interested in cleansing me and freeing me from the shame and strongholds.
@lederereddy Wisdom to me is to have an open mind, be humble and try to understand the minds limitations. Wisdom is also not being too hasty about conclusions and not seeing the world in ”black and white”.
I can feel how hard (not to say impossible) it is for my mind to comprehend many things in this world/universe. I can feel that I don't understand. It has been like that with many things, but science has explained many things we didn't comprehend before, and more will be revealed I think.
@staraffinity There are literal, practical reasons for honoring Gods commandments. Wisdom projects a positive outcome by simply trusting and doing the right thing even when it's the opposite of what our selfish personal desires urge us to do
Maybe you don't know anything deep down. If you don't know who you are, why you're here and where you're going then there's room to learn and grow. I'll say this, you want to make peace with God while the treaty is on the table. Free will has responsibility
@lederereddy I'm not exactly sure about ”free will”. What do you say about the discoveries that are shown in the BBC Horizon television program ”The Secret You”? It's here on YouTube, just search for ”the secret you bbc” and it comes up on top. Among other things it shows how the feeling where ”me” is can be moved and also it shows how one can see in the brain which choice will be made (which button – left or right) before the consciousness ”gets aware” of the decision. Is that ”free will”?
@sinshyft117 Out of the heart the mouth speaks truth. Heard that before? Listen to yourself if you don't believe me. You're no different than I in respect to God. You're either praising God or cursing God, using His name in vain. It's our sinful nature as His created son or daughter. None of us can help it. There are lots of popular sayings but not everyone uses the same ones except when it comes to our true position as sons or daughters of our Maker Jesus Christ. Who you cursed 10 x today, huh?
@lederereddy That doesn't mean he's real. Those names and sayings have simply become common things for people to say. You insist upon the idea that it's all real. You gotta back it up. And don't tell me to back myself up. I'll just refer you straight back to Mr. Hitchens up top.
By the way, if you haven't already noticed I'm just trolling for fun. Religion videos are easy trolling targets. :D
@sinshyft11"Those names and sayings have simply become common things for people to say"
Common is one thing but cursing/praising God is not only phenomenally exponential, universal and with intense frequency it's personal. There is nothing in the verbiage of all mankind that comes anywhere near it. I'm observing and assigning a spiritual but none the less legitimate cause for a known behavior. In other words, there's a reason for the behavior and denial is a band-aid on a cancerous brain tumor.
@lederereddy It's pretty good, Go on a atheist video and start talking shit. It's fun. They start raging as much as any religious person. 'Cause it's like you're still challenging and fucking with their beliefs. Anybody gets pissed about that. I dunno, I find it fun but I always let people know that, in truth, I don't give a fuck either way and I'm just being stupid.
@sinshyft117 Yeah? When you die you're going to heaven. It's nothing but fluffy white clouds and harp music forever and ever and ever interrupted occasionally by some christian saying "told ya so" Told Ya so" "Neener neener neener" Ha ha! How am i doing? =)
@lederereddy That'd be good for like a sarcastic comeback sorta thing. lmfao. It'd work though. It's a good start. You have to make sure you insist on the fact that they're wrong and you're right though. You gotta press that in. Then they really get pissed and that's when you use that kinda stuff just to tease them haha.
What a classic expression at 1:40. Poor Christopher, I bet all of the subjecting himself to the blathering of sheep was the source of his cancer. Anything in the quantities he imbibed on his book tour must be carcinogenic.
@seraph101 I'm not religious either, but for you to say to someone, "All you do is threaten people and behave like assholes. Fuck of, please"...you do realize you sound like a hugely hypocritical asshole right? Just saying.
Quote mining from biogists and copy pasting from creationist websites. Its funny that you think you are making an argument here when its obvious that the real reason you deny science, the fact that you are an evolved ape, is because you want the bible to be true. Its sad. Dont tell me about genetics, ok? I'll go to professionals for that.
You still havent answered the question btw. Which isnt at all surprising really. Canine into what? A scaly, cold blooded, water dweller? By 2045?
@spacecowboy95 - You are not interested in science. You are interested only in maintaining the same plastic theories and evolutionary tripe and technical bluff that fills the textbooks and is rehashed occasionally by Scientific American and National Geographic. I have given you FACTS from genetics and biology why macro evolution cannot and will never happen. But the truth is the farthest thing from your mind.
@bgibb101 "You are interested only in maintaining the same plastic theories and evolutionary tripe and technical bluff that fills the textbooks and is rehashed occasionally by Scientific American and National Geographic"
Evolution is accepted by every professional scientific institute on the planet. Creationists like you are a whiny, fringe minority who get laughed at and have a track record of deliberate fraud. So keep all that bitterness to yourself, OK? Get over it, you're wrong.
@spacecowboy95 - "Evolution is accepted by every professional scientific institute on the planet. OK?
Yet, you cannot even disprove my points concerning the genetic frameshift in those lizards, which did NOT amount to an 'evolutionary" change - just an adaption to a different diet. They are, and will always be lizards. Every living thing on our planet can only reproduce more of its own kind. The amount of genetic information encoded in the biology of all life is programmed this way. Period
@bgibb101 "did NOT amount to an 'evolutionary" change"
Except their anatomy and behaviour changed over time via a process of natural selection acting on random mutation. You'd deny the sky was blue if jesus told you.
"Every living thing on our planet can only reproduce more of its own kind"
Yep, a cat wont one day magically give birth to a dog. That is not what evolutionary theory suggests. You need to go back to 6th grade. Unbelievable how misinformed you are.
The reason why religious zealots are heaving and beginning their mobilization is because they fear this new atheist trend. I must have gotten a dozen+ flyers about how atheism is on the rise and march, 'aggressively' attacking all. I see it as a changing platform. But I'm deist, so I could care less lol
Hey "Mr." Harold Kushner, remember Psalm 78:58-59, "They angered God by building shrines to other gods; they made him jealous with their idols. When God heard them, he was very angry, and he completely rejected Israel." The mixing of Judaism and other religions is completely prohibited in the Jewish faith. That was a coward of an answer and you don't deserve the title of a Rabbi. Only those who will be proud of their religion and live by it unapologeticly deserve to have such a title.
Judaism is a copy of other preabrahamic cults - circumcision is from Egypt, the 10 commandments are a copy of the 13 negative questions - Judaism Shmudaism - we're sick of these 3 fucking abrahamic babylonian cults - muslims and their animal sacrificing - see what they do to camels - eid camel sacrifice - in the name of this fucker abraham who never even existed - and jews and christians and all their bullshit - jesus is a horrific effigy of a giant human sacrifice - rabbis mullas priests = evil
@timewilltell7 Well stupid, Judaism never claimed to be the first religion to have encountered God. Judiasm claims to be the first chosen religion by God. Noah is not a jew yet he had a relationship with God that God considered righteous. You prove your ignorance through you vulgar language and lack of knowledge about what Judiasm and Christianity is. I suppose that eating meat is a "evil" and stupid practice because there were people here before us that ate meat. Please shut up dummy!
i think we can agree that most atheists attack major religions for their over influence and power over people and lack of evidence/science to back up historical claims.to hell with the idleness of jesus etc. the only path. but the atheist fails to the see the benefits of feeling a connection through the interconnectivity with-in ourselves, and the universe leading to a unified positive moral happy clean world. we dont call it jesus, or muhamed, we call it "love", we give a shit, essentially
One cannot PROVE that there is or is not a God. The problem with religious fundamentalists and atheistic fundamentalists, is that they are BOTH closed minded . Hitchens makes some fine points- but then compromises them by engaging in absolutism himself. - something which these men clearly do not. He prejudges, makes ad hominem attacks- then generalizes. Fundamentalism in all its' guises puts limitations on the quest for human knowledge attempting to give answer to essential ultimate questions.
@rickw1100 Only mathematical equations can really be proven but we can make logical judgements about what we percieve to be true. All atheists say is that there is no reason to think a God exists, and certainly no evidence to base your entire life on a religion. That is not closed minded, that is logical deduction.
@LowleyUK -Only mathematical equations can really be proven?! Really ? I believe most scientists/mathematicians would disagree.- It is "logical deduction" to believe that something does not exist or even have the possibility of existence because there is, as yet, no tangable "evidence" to point at? That is not logical deduction, that is ignorance. Following that "reasoning" -we'd still be living in caves. Human beings seek answers to ultimate questions. No reason to believe in God? LOL!
@rickw1100 Well you are clearly biased but let me first of all qualify my opening point. The point I was trying to make is that most things cannot be objectively proven to be 100% true but nevertheless we can still come to conclusions using evidence, you suggest atheists and believers are both equally ignorant but one relies on evidence so your point is a non sequiter. Secondly, God is not certainly not necessary in seeking answers to ultimate questions.
@LowleyUK- Ha ! The ad hominem argument-the last refuge of the intellectual coward. The only non sequiter here is your grossly unscientific belief that denies the possibilty of something, because there is, as yet, no tangable evidence that it exists. Fundamentalist atheism does not rely on evidence, like biblical fundamentalism, it closes the conversation from the start by erroneous presumption (it will not look through the telescope). Both are more concerned with "being right" than the Truth.
@rickw1100 Excuse me? What personal insult did I make? So far the only insult was made by you. And you are very presumptious aren't you, how do you know these things about me, how do you know I think a God is impossible? You seem to be missing my whole point which is, I do not believe in a god because I have not been given any reason to, If evidence arose I would acknowledge it, but so far there is none. What is unscientific about this stance, scepticism is the default position of any scientist.
@LowleyUK -You are sadly, the flip side of the biblical fundalmentalist coin. They expect us to deny evolution and reason and you expect us to close our minds to the infinite possibilities of life and creation. Both are an invitation to despair and ignorance. Open your mind to the wonderful, infinite, possibilities of having the supreme honor of being alive and discovering the answers to ultimate questions.
@rickw1100 It would be a good idea to actually read my comment before posting your reply but I can see you have no interest in discussing anything. You attack reasonable and logical thinking as close minded. I have answers to most of my ultimate questions, such as why are we here, what happens when we die etc, you don't need a god to answer them, so why don't you open your mind. I won't even read your next reply since you clearly ignored mine.
@LowleyUK -Wow !! You KNOW what happens when we die? Really? You actually KNOW !! Than you are the only person I've met you claims such a knowledge. Please share it with the rest of us. "Inquiring minds want to know".
Never underestimate human denial. Theists are slowly going down, kicking and screaming.
Every time science discovers new evidence that flies in the face of religious teachings, theists spin that information into lies that fit their agenda. They are the middlemen between truth and enlightenment. Never trust a middleman.
who's idea was it to put christopher hitchens on an equal platform with these two children. it must be insulting to hitch to have to sit there with those morons
Another thing. Hitchens talks about the people who were murdered in the name of religion. My question is would there be war, conflict and fighting if religion wasn't around? The answer is yes, because there have been many wars without a religious cause. Russian revolution, Napoleonic wars, Chinese revolution, War in Vietnam just to give a few. So this idea the without religion we would be living in some utopic paradise were we all loved each other is false and wishful thinking
Hitchens is a mediocre ape. Have any of you even read one of his works? Do you need your intellectual food handed to you in the form of an easy-to-swallow youtube personality before you'll pay any attention? Have you read ANYTHING other than anime fan-fiction?
I despise this new breed of faggy pseudo-intellectuals the internet is churning out - people who haven't read a book in their lives, yet fancy themselves philosophers. Go and namedrop Hitchens to your hipster friends you failures.
@sthcrox "as the bible says..."..yes? were you going to finish the thought or is it just more empty rhetoric? Something tell me you're one of those people who is afraid to ask big questions because you might get scary answers. At any rate, write Hitch and tell him you thoughts, unfinished as they were, on "filth" in his heart, it'll make his day.
if swearing F-word is not filth to you, then i truly understand why yu are offended at my post.
what i was trying to expose is this dude is really a fool who doesn't really believe in what he's preaching but he has to do it because his ego won't let him turn back now. both him and dakwn dude...heheheh , 'ok?
@sthcrox The Bible says Christopher Hitchens has filth in his heart eh? A book that warrants genocide, slavery, sex slavery, infanticide, killing of homosexuals; THIS BOOK, says Christopher has filth in his heart? Well, it would know I guess. To defend CH (not that he needs a defender) he has never recommended anything like that and is a moral exemplar doing what he can to free people's minds from that kind of, to borrow a phrase, filth
@sthcrox A god that commands all of the below atrocities I mentioned, if he exists, would be forcing darkness upon me. I wouldn't dream of being even an impassive spectator to those atrocious things. No, light comes when you have the strength of mind to say that I don't need it, I don't want it and there's not a fragment of evidence to support it. And then you can decide for yourself what's moral without the Old Testament's pernicious influence
like i said, you are obviously in the dark, that's why you can't SEE it! a person who is in the dark is so darkened that he/she does not know where he is. don't you see? you are angry at God for commanding hings because you have no understanding of who He is and Why He does it!
Strength of mind=Light? Really?? Do you think that all the evils committed by 'enlightened' great men of history are evidence of Light?
Jesus is the ONLY Light of this universe. Everything else is dark.
@sthcrox I can't be angry at someone/thing I don't believe in. So tell me oh illuminated one, why does he command these things? And why are you happy believing in someone/thing capable of making you a mass murderer at his divine whim? Sounds pretty hellish to me I have to say. Good job there's no evidence for it or I'd be perturbed
I can't teach you the whole of God in this post, and assuming you are intelligent enough, I will point you to the path and let you do your own research yourself.
The KEY to understanding God, Creation, Good, Evil, Satan, Universe, Nature, Hell, Heaven, ...in fact, Everything, is to UNDERSTAND THE CROSS. To fully understand why the cross, and what took place on the Cross.
After you researched the meaning of the Cross, THEN you can decide on God. That's honesty & intelligence.
@sthcrox@sthcrox You're trying to use the crucifixion to explain too much. How is the supposed story of a man's grisly torture going to explain the mysteries of the universe? I do know of the story and it makes no sense to me. If I do someone wrong, no one can bleach that stain. You mean to tell me that I can theive, double cross, hurt everyone I love and all I have to do is say, "I accept Jesus" with my dying breath, and all these things are scrubbed from the slate? That's anti morality
Wahtever sin yu do is still Sin. And that is why yu will go to Hell. BUT...the moment you seriously feel in your heart that you really want TO BE FORGIVEN, that you want your slate clean, and if that moment you recognise that it is Jesus only that can wash your sins away, and if you turn to Him and just ask for forgiveness, that's the VERY MOMENT He will clean you up (it's called washed in the Blood). Then He will give yu a NEW MIND & NEW HEART and you will think/act differently
Every little sin you do is still sin, and that is what separates Man from God: the Sin. God is pure and He hates any Sin. No man can cheat nor mock God.
BUT...the moment your heart yearns to be forgiven, renewed, start-again, washed clean,...and if you acknowledge that Jesus died on the cross to shift your sins to Him and His forgiveness to you, and if you simply call upon His name for forgiveness, and decide in your heart to start anew, that's the VERY MOMENT you are FORGIVEN.
Every little sin you do is still sin, and that is what separates Man from God: the Sin. God is pure and He hates any Sin. No man can cheat nor mock God.
BUT...the moment your heart yearns to be forgiven, renewed, start-again, washed clean,...and if you acknowledge that Jesus died on the cross to shift your sins to Him and His forgiveness to you, and if you simply call upon His name for forgiveness, and decide in your heart to start anew, that's the VERY MOMENT you are FORGIVEN.
@sthcrox "like i said, you are obviously in the dark....." And you are obviously arrogant and presumptuous. Emotional blackmail no longer works on many of us, but it seems to on you. Emotional attachment to belief, under the guise of "faith", does not make it true. We have NO eyewitness accounts of Jesus' life. The gospels were written anonymously and in the 3rd person. The names were added later. Mark, the earliest, was written around 65 AD. Base your life on hearsay.
Peter, James, John, Matthew, etc etc are ALL eyewitnesses of what Jesus did. They walked with Him every single day of His ministry.
Get your facts right. It is clear that you are a dishonest researcher for you have not carried out a proper research of the facts BEFORE you come here and trumpet that God is not true. Be an honest seeker and you will be shocked at how so much you don't know yet!
@sthcrox We don't reject god. We reject you. Typical "christian" mischaracterizing someone's argument in an attempt to validate their own beliefs. You guys are such liars.
Tell the truth: YOU reject God. If you reject Jesus (as revealed in the Bible) you have rejected God. Or didn't you know that? Or are you trying to confuse and ended up being confused yourself? Come to the light.
@sthcrox And what about all the contradictions in the buy bull?? Mark and Luke give different genealogies of Joseph and Genesis 1 and 2 give different orders of creation. There are many others. If this is the best your god can do, then he is an inept communicator, but I know you will continue to choose willful ignorance and defend him/her/it or whatever........
There are NO contradictions in the Bible. You simply do not understand them. There is a good explanation of each allegations you may have about the bible. Research on them honestly and you will be surprised. Happy search, friend.
@sthcrox Sorry to butt in but you said there are no contridictions in the bible. Okay, when did the disciples know the fig tree had withered after Jesus cursed it?
Does the Rabbi say "cunt" at 1:39?
TPom8458 6 days ago
Hitchens so clever did not know how to stop smoking
TruthIsSalvation 1 week ago
I heard that people are visting his grave and paying respect while some just go there to piss
TruthIsSalvation 1 week ago
Haha during Hitchens' total ownage the Rabbi and Rev. look so disheartened lol i feel bad
Seldomsleeper 1 week ago
@Seldomsleeper
No the Rabbi and Rev. were disheartened because they knew that Hitchens will roast in Hell and come out as a Hit-c-hens only to be eaten by Satan as an alternative to KFC hens
TruthIsSalvation 1 week ago
LOOK AT THAT JEW'S EARS!
jesus christ!
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Hell No! Hitchens is back from the dead
posting comments in here
Guess you can now see him as a GOD
TruthIsSalvation 1 week ago
You know sometimes the things Hitchens said made me cringe because he could be condescending to believers and I don't believe this is the best way to get our point across... but you can not disparage the truth and validity of his rants. He knew better than all how to hammer down his points and you have to respect that. A huge loss for the world!
jrob24eagles 2 weeks ago
@jrob24eagles
"Cringe" now that is Hitchens all over even to his devout supporters who forgive him for making them feel that way. Truth my man you would not know it if it hits you in the face. Hitchens no loss to the world atleast his demise would mean saving the ozone layer from depletion resulting from his common rants
TruthIsSalvation 1 week ago
"The trouble with religion only starts when people have affirmed that it's true."
Ronin0212 1 month ago
@Ronin0212
the trouble with most things is when people get involved, Hitchens is a prime example of trouble
TruthIsSalvation 1 week ago
A celestial North Korea... Always a good reference to hear him utter. Of course it's mere coincidence, but shall we all close our eyes to reason for a minute and laugh at the fabulous scheme the lord our saviour played out when he sent Christopher to heaven two days before he took Kim Jong-Il's life? I wonder if Kim gets a seat next to god, and if they play tricks with Christopher just for their entertainment.
You lived a fabulous life Christopher!
KryzMasta 1 month ago
@KryzMasta says "You lived a fabulous life Christopher!" yes a fabulous life at our cost talking so much hot air almost contributing to global warming. He is a man of all things wrong and not afraid to say it, plays the blame card, a distractor but never a leader of men. Hitchens a frusterated man sees the wrongs can not do the rights so he talks and talks and talks his words will be blown away in the breeze and religion has out lived him.Where is he now? celesitial North Korea
TruthIsSalvation 3 weeks ago
@TruthIsSalvation Quite astonishing... You have the capacity of expressing yourself with language, yet aside from that you have absolutely NO CLUE about ANYTHING at all! This is remarkable - give your brain up for science after you die, you are some sort of miracle.
KryzMasta 3 weeks ago
@KryzMasta
I will come to you O Great One for clues on everything. Your capacity to define a miracle is exemplary to a simpleton.
Rest assured that you dont have to give up your brain it will not be much use to science even in life
TruthIsSalvation 3 weeks ago
@TruthIsSalvation You realize you still actually haven't said anything that made sense, right? But your nickname explains it all: you believe in fairytales, and with that you already exclude yourself from any useful discussion without having said a single word.
Christopher Hitchens was a brilliant thinker, writer, commentator and debater. And you're a worthless piece of a human being. Therein endeth the lesson.
KryzMasta 3 weeks ago
@KryzMasta
"endeth the lesson" UMMM yes ofcourse wise maaaster!
Hitchens not a thinker but a stinker. My worthn is in my humanity and not in my arrogance that I should teach you what to think as long as your thinking is in line with what I am writing, commentating and arguing. Great thinkers do not go around pocking and taking pot shots at everything they disagreed with. Great thinkers produce enlightenment not discourse. Hitchens is a bully a most disagreeable chap. Good riddens
TruthIsSalvation 1 week ago
@TruthIsSalvation So, what gives you the reason to talk shit about someone who has dedicated his life to open peoples eyes? To make people think? What have you done in your life?
Mister187um 3 weeks ago
@Mister187um
I am busy living my life as oppose to trying to tell people how to live theirs.
I do not see blind people to have a fixation to "open people's eyes"
I think therefore I am, so your dead Idol Hitchens is no one to "make me think"
I see with my eyes I need not anyone, yet alone Hitchens, to open them for me
I am a man my child
So before your idol Hitchens you were blind and void of thought. Hitchens opened your eyes, unlocked your brain and made you think. UMM!
TruthIsSalvation 3 weeks ago
@TruthIsSalvation First of all, Im from Norway, most of us are atheist, I don't need anyone to "unlock" my brain. Second this is maybe the third video I've seen of this guy, he is not well known in Norway cause we don't believe in stories, or do stuff based on these stories.
Im not idolizing this guy, but he has made a difference.
Based on what you just said, you do absolutely nothing for other people benefit from.
And Im not your child, and thankfully, not arrogant like you.
Mister187um 3 weeks ago
@Mister187um
How do you know you are not my child, I have visited Norway a place next to noway.
What difference has he made with his stories. I disagree, you come across needing a brain storm. What! being an atheist makes you intellignent. Hitchens is a self serving media coaster in the guise of a scholar he rants like a commoner. His views while liked by some are offensive to others. He is divisive and a lying Islamophobic ARROGANT anti semitic git.I just hate liars! dont you?
TruthIsSalvation 3 weeks ago
@TruthIsSalvation Are you serious? The problem is that you can't deal with hitchens, because his not believing in stories, and he's not afraid to debate with people thinking otherwise. And he is discussing , not telling stories. You should know the difference,right?
And your comment on me living in Norway, being an atheists, proved you totally missed my point.
My father is an atheist,just like me, not a fuck up like you. And I do hate liars.
Mister187um 3 weeks ago
@Mister187um
Look debate, dialogue etc all is good if done in honesty and truth
Debate can also be a form of propaganda and Hitchens is a propagandist of the highest calibre a skill well practisd by Nazies
TruthIsSalvation 1 week ago
@TruthIsSalvation That is just crap and you know it. You don't understand what he's saying because you're in your own fantasy world. And the fact that you bring up nazies out of the blue, proves my point. There is no point in arguing with you, you don't make any sense.
Mister187um 1 week ago
@Mister187um
You dont like it ehh! Its crap you say...why because some one is taking a poke at you and your Hitchens worship for a change
no point in anything you or Hitchens arguing with anyone so add me to that list
TruthIsSalvation 1 week ago
@TruthIsSalvation No, you just don't get it. This whole thing started when you said its fine that Hitchens died, because you don't agree with him. That is low, and insulting to any normal human being. I don't give a fuck what people say, i don't wish anyone dead just because i don't agree with their opinion. I don't worship anyone, as i said I don't need to rely on anyone or anything to know whats real or not. Unlike you, who clearly lack common sense.
Mister187um 1 week ago
@Mister187um Calm down! reach for your medication chill out! your in danger of getting a stroke. I did not wish death to Hitchens or anyone else. I just think that NOW the fact that Hitchens is dead a divine act out of my control you will not catch me crying for him. And yes some people did cry when Hitler&Stalin died but I for one am bloooody glad that they will not breath the same air as me.If there is a God I'll hate to be in Hitchens grave. Now you can rant on again LOL
TruthIsSalvation 1 week ago
@TruthIsSalvation No, you don't get it. You are proving it again and again. You look more and more stupid, for every comment you make.
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What a genius you are! I when you decide to take your head out of Hitches arse
TruthIsSalvation 6 days ago
@TruthIsSalvation Claim to hate liars, claim that he's your child when you know he's not... Mmmkay...
MyFishIsTwonk 2 weeks ago
@MyFishIsTwonk
I did not claim that I was his father. Hell no i would not want to be his father. I just implied that did he realy know his true father. I know of many people who did many things with Norwegian married and unmarried women. I lie NOT
TruthIsSalvation 1 week ago
@TruthIsSalvation With your choice of wording it seems you were implying that he was your son, and either way your implied choice of words doesn't seem very religious...
MyFishIsTwonk 1 week ago
@MyFishIsTwonk
Yah Yah Yah. Look take it any way you like I was in Norway and I played the field. people need DNA testing over there to check that no one else messed around with their mums when their husbands were playing away. Whats religion got to do with it. I think that you have been living with that fish far to long twonk
TruthIsSalvation 1 week ago
@TruthIsSalvation Another pointless, and completely false statement. Congrats!
Are you really in a position that you can make stuff up about other countries?
Want me to make a list of shit going on in america?
Mister187um 1 week ago
@Mister187um Come on i dare you to say anything bad about America. All of you are just jealous of American the land of the BRAVE and FREE. if you say anything bad I will have you deported to a concentration camp along with all of your elk. Bring it on if you dare... coward
TruthIsSalvation 1 week ago
@TruthIsSalvation Wow, you do have serious problems, don't you?
You are the one who needs to be sent of somewhere, cause you need help.
When atheist are treated the way they are, and gay people can't be who they are, thats not free, is it? When people can't voice their opinion without someone wishing for their death, is not free. And to suppress people like you do is certainly not brave, its pathetic, and makes you look like cowards.
Now come and deport me, you poor fool.
Mister187um 1 week ago
@Mister187um
I cant deport you you did not defame America or American. Village people and atheists are all welcome in our Army. They can Kill Muslims what more freedom can they wish for, it will make Hitchens happy in his grave. Which one are you atheist or gay or both... who cares. if your gay and atheist please dont mention His name dont say the word God when you are carrying on ...okay see I am accomodating shame you can not change your nature
TruthIsSalvation 6 days ago
@TruthIsSalvation i'm a gay atheist: god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god god
Jellowlink 6 days ago
@Jellowlink
Man you learned a lot from school, well atleast you learned to do lines. Bad then and still bad now
TruthIsSalvation 5 days ago
@TruthIsSalvation satire motherfucker!!
Jellowlink 5 days ago
@Jellowlink Are you jealous monkeyfucker!!!
TruthIsSalvation 2 days ago
@TruthIsSalvation that makes no sense
Jellowlink 2 days ago
@Mister187um
I am glde to see that you are scared of Americans not to dare to say anything about the Greatest nation and people in the world. say with me God Bless Ameeeerica
TruthIsSalvation 6 days ago
@TruthIsSalvation Wow, you don't understand english. You are from now on ignored. And I recommend everyone else to do the same. You live in your own little world. I wish you luck in life, you'll need it.
Mister187um 6 days ago
@Mister187um Simple Simon says "You are from now on ignored."
Oooooh! ignoooored how big of you little boy girl
Simple Simon says "And I recommend everyone else to do the same."
LOL yeah go on and while you are at it you can go and play with each other
TruthIsSalvation 5 days ago
@TruthIsSalvation " He is divisive and a lying Islamophobic ARROGANT anti semitic git.I just hate liars! dont you?"
That sentence is so wrong on so many levels, wow.. If we had a scale for this shit, you probably blew it.
ObLiViOnZThEkIllEr 2 weeks ago
@ObLiViOnZThEkIllEr
perhaps you need to make the climb up to my level but I doubt it because you are to busy stuck up your demigod Hitchens back side. The only shit blown on your face is that shit you call Hitchens
TruthIsSalvation 1 week ago
@TruthIsSalvation Americans... What fucking retarded people.
ObLiViOnZThEkIllEr 1 week ago
@ObLiViOnZThEkIllEr
listen it takes one to know one
I think American are fantastic the land of the brave and the free
what is your problem
Are you a terrorist
TruthIsSalvation 1 week ago
@TruthIsSalvation No, I dont like America or religion. اتمنى لك يوما طيبا
ObLiViOnZThEkIllEr 1 week ago
@ObLiViOnZThEkIllEr
HOOORAY! what do you want me to do for you its your loss matey you dont know what you are missing
TruthIsSalvation 1 week ago
@ObLiViOnZThEkIllEr
Hey i aint no retard. whats a retard anyway
TruthIsSalvation 1 week ago
I fucking love this.
Nomiss9 1 month ago
A nice take on institutionalized genital mutilation. I found the most outstanding explanation on exactly what it is and what it is designed to do, as the speaker mentions so vividly. The video is called LA PAROLA IN CUATRO I (pt. 3 of 5) There are four segments to this vid with many parts, but I (part 3 of 5) is exactly about genital mutilation, from a physiological, historical, and modern perversion of institution perspective. LA PAROLA IN CUATRO is awesome and I recommend it
bortelliM 1 month ago
Dude on the right is a douche, sorry.....catholic
stratocaster1986able 3 months ago
@Canuckforces2 The full Forum is available at theforumchannel.tv - check it out!
CTFORUM 3 months ago
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Hitchens don't know what he is talking about, he doesn't know God, he only knows what misguided people do out of free will. No one likes the unknown and since Hitchens doesn't understand the concept of salvation, he rejects it. Please continue seeking the truth, this man doesn't knows it. God will reveal the truth if you decide to open your heart to Him.
dejesusluisx 4 months ago
"I don't want to live in some fucking celestial North Korea..." Pwn.
Kalki720 4 months ago 52
christopher hitchens gave me the strength to come out to my parents.
thank you mr. hitchens.
tuicharles 5 months ago 75
@tuicharles Welcome to 'Merica, the country where "coming out" means admitting you have a logical thinking process, and can acctually realize religion is a bunch of bullshit...
ObLiViOnZThEkIllEr 2 weeks ago
@tuicharles Good on you, you are now a fully fledged POOF.
TheLaw055 1 week ago
LMFAO at the North Korea analogy!
IGrimReaperI 5 months ago
get pwned
JuanchoMan 5 months ago
The person who finds the cure for cancer will never get the credit for it!
- Me
shade421 5 months ago
@lederereddy I think if I was promised eternal happiness after I was dead I would wholeheartedly sacrifice myself for the good of others. I've read the Bible. I'm not awestruck by your god. I'm disgusted by it, and more disgusted by the fact people can still believe in it and justify all the terrible actions performed in it.
MagikarpPower 6 months ago 2
I wonder , Mr Hitchens, if there is a God who's intervened in human affairs, as Christ has, would you appreciate a leader like that? I doubt the North Korean's have ever had a dictator who was willing to sacrifice himself for the good of others.
Those of us who've chosen to enter Gods world have done so by choice and our worship is just appreciation, awe, and natural human expression over what we'll see as magnificence. You too, the bible says, will fall to your knees and honestly worship.
lederereddy 6 months ago
@lederereddy Gods world? Have you read even some of the 613 commandments in the old testament? That "world" is no better than North Korea: Worship, praise, jealousy, killing... punishing even the children of those who hate or disobey god (2nd com.). Hell, I can even burn a city in god's world if I think they have turned to "idol worship" (Deut. 13:17).
A being or person truly worthy of praise and worship wouldn't want it yet this, plus fear of punishment, is what gods world is mostly about.
jbass02 6 months ago
@jbass02 Yes. The punishment for sin is death. We are guilty and we can't not sin. Holiness is not in our nature. That's obvious. So why hasn't God destroyed you and I by now? It's not His objective to destroy us. He's trying to call each of us out of the treachery of sin and into the pleasure of obedience. Rebellion is punishable by death. That's not what God wants but it is what we choose rather than obedience. Jesus has destroyed sins power but God's not forcing you or I to choose Christ.
lederereddy 6 months ago
@lederereddy Im always perplexed at theists I talk to who, it seems, never once in their life question the moral rigidity, and thus legitimacy, of the legend of original sin. To them its like oh yeah that makes sense: A perfect being (god) created me (an imperfect, sick, heap of trash) *and* left it up to me to continually trick myself into believing all of it, including the scapegoating story of Jesus, for fear of infinite torture for a finite “crime”. Classy.
jbass02 6 months ago
@lederereddy I was wondering a few things about this ”getting judged” by God.
Does animals get judged?
Does bacterias get judged?
Does cancer cells get judged?
How does an infant who dies get judged?
How does a sperm get judged?
If some living things doesn't get judged, when does a living thing get ”good enough” to get judged? Where is the ”border” between getting judged and not getting judged?
I think the obvious answer is that it's narcissists who believe in God, can you change me? :)
staraffinity 6 months ago
@staraffinity "Do animals, bacteria, cancer cell, babies... I think the obvious answer is that it's narcissists who believe in God, can you change me? :)"
There's the letter of the law which states Do not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil or you will die. It was poison for man to eat and the whole of creation suffers from it to this day. But like many deadly poisons there is a remedy. That remedy is Christ's sacrifice on the cross. Jesus offers you the solution. Get it from Him.
lederereddy 6 months ago
@lederereddy Hmm, yes it's ”DO they gyet judged, not ”does”, don't know why I typed "does” but english isn't my naitive language. Anyway, I don't think you dodged my question. I guess there aren't good answers for them so I'm not surprised you did. ;)
staraffinity 6 months ago
@jbass02 I can tell by what you posted that you know next to nothing about the context of old testament scripture. There's not much sense in debating a subject when the opponent is ill-informed, wouldn't you agree? This type of brash commentary on the sensitive issues of life recorded in scripture are targets for disbelievers who try to exploit them and they have for centuries. All the rocks have been turned over, friend. God's impossible to prove wrong but anyone can say He's wrong.
lederereddy 6 months ago
@lederereddy Pardon me. Have I stumbled upon someone who *knows* what god really meant to say, other than what is actually written, in the 39 or so books of the old testament? Not only that, you even know how much I know about the old testament simply by the 2 verses I quoted from it. Tell me, what tangible reference to god (book, dvd, or tv channel) do you have that I do not have? because if you're re-interpreting (modernizing) the bible for yourself, then you're just writing your own bible.
jbass02 6 months ago
@jbass02 "what is actually written, in the 39 or so books" That's the key to understanding, my friend. Searching the scriptures to see exactly what's being said and done. That's not the case when it comes to doubters, mockers, haters. They seem to be content to make judgements about things they don't understand, about times they don't understand and about God, who they assume isn't present. It's folly to commit yourself to the futility of discounting Gods word when scripture is for your benefit.
lederereddy 6 months ago
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jbass02 6 months ago
@lederereddy Here's how you are incorrect, and how youve exposed one of the many weaknesses in your position. First, many verses in the bible have no "context" other than how they read at face value. And if all a "doubter" has to do is read a few of these verses to you, word for word, to put u on the defensive where all u have left to do in response is attack the reader for being "ill-informed", that should, if you were alert enough, raise a flag about your only reference guide to god, not me.
jbass02 6 months ago
@lederereddy Continued…
Because if I, a doubter, cant read and interpret bible verses for *exactly how they read* without condescension and defense from U, a theist, well your position reduces down to something no better than say a scientologist; where only high-ranking scientologists can know or discuss all the truly absurd things they believe in -like earth was an alien prison planet, etc- but people who aren’t scientologists are just “ignorant and hateful” if they discuss the same things.
jbass02 6 months ago
There is no argument. You cannot convince anyone of extreme faith or indeed mild faith as there is a well documented psycological condition where a person of faith will make the evidence/world fit their religion even when presented with ubdeniable facts. There are no winners only well made points to people who aren't listning.
Dgoosh1000 6 months ago
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celestial north korea
samuelsixvids 6 months ago
when humans go to war or killing in favor for their religion they no longer belong to a religion no matter which one. it's written in all kinds of our holly books but we humans manage to interpret stuff as they fit us and that's our main sin
docandy1000 6 months ago
LOL 'celestial North Korea', I'm naming my kid after Hitchens!
CaReFrEe01 6 months ago
I love the expressions on Hitch's face when other's are talking.
1:37... and Hitch is about to explode in 3......2........1.......
DarkOnyx 6 months ago 2
Forget Atheism. I for one like to take naps because it's a little slice of peace. Hell has no rest, ever. It's all evil, shame, murder, rebellion, damnation, dark, putrid, terror laden, relentless, hopeless, worthless, unsatisfying, insane, inescapable and tormented place. It's no fun to be with all your friends in a car that crashed, doors pinched shut, soaked in gas and burning. Atheism is a one way ticket to eternal and finite spiritual misery. God is surprisingly refreshing to know , now.
lederereddy 7 months ago
@lederereddy I think your going to hell
cygnusx555 6 months ago
How true, Mr Hitchens! Atheist's are honest about one thing at least. They hate God and they want to go to hell. God gives us the desires of our heart. But I doubt there is a single one of them that isn't screaming and crying a violent regret of that prayer once the reality of their full and personal rejection of God in Christ Himself becomes an eternal irreversible error in their past and the escort to hell begins. Hell's not even necessary, except for people so proud they don't even need God.
lederereddy 7 months ago
@lederereddy But he's not real so there's nothing to worry about. :D
sinshyft117 6 months ago
@sinshyft117 He's as real as the fact that we are here. Sure, you may not be able to see Him but you do know deep down the reality that something besides oblivion interceded on the behalf of our existence. It's simple deduction. Oblivion does not have the power demonstrated throughout the universe of setting you and I into a habitat so clearly designed to reveal our desperate need for God. Oblivion isn't creative. Only God is. You know you're not your own creator as does your parents and theirs.
lederereddy 6 months ago
@lederereddy ”...but you do know deep down the reality that something besides oblivion interceded on the behalf of our existence.” Deep down I know I know nothing and drawing conclusions based upon that doesn't feel very wise to me.
staraffinity 6 months ago
@staraffinity "Deep down I know I know nothing and drawing conclusions based upon that doesn't feel very wise to me." What's your definition of wisdom? What do we need wisdom for except when it comes to the unknown?
The first and foremost reason I subjected myself to Gods Holy Spirit was because I am aware of sin. Personal sins. Whether they were against God, I wasn't sure, at first, but the bible led me to believe God was interested in cleansing me and freeing me from the shame and strongholds.
lederereddy 6 months ago
@lederereddy Wisdom to me is to have an open mind, be humble and try to understand the minds limitations. Wisdom is also not being too hasty about conclusions and not seeing the world in ”black and white”.
I can feel how hard (not to say impossible) it is for my mind to comprehend many things in this world/universe. I can feel that I don't understand. It has been like that with many things, but science has explained many things we didn't comprehend before, and more will be revealed I think.
staraffinity 6 months ago
@staraffinity There are literal, practical reasons for honoring Gods commandments. Wisdom projects a positive outcome by simply trusting and doing the right thing even when it's the opposite of what our selfish personal desires urge us to do
Maybe you don't know anything deep down. If you don't know who you are, why you're here and where you're going then there's room to learn and grow. I'll say this, you want to make peace with God while the treaty is on the table. Free will has responsibility
lederereddy 6 months ago
@lederereddy I'm not exactly sure about ”free will”. What do you say about the discoveries that are shown in the BBC Horizon television program ”The Secret You”? It's here on YouTube, just search for ”the secret you bbc” and it comes up on top. Among other things it shows how the feeling where ”me” is can be moved and also it shows how one can see in the brain which choice will be made (which button – left or right) before the consciousness ”gets aware” of the decision. Is that ”free will”?
staraffinity 6 months ago
@sinshyft117 Out of the heart the mouth speaks truth. Heard that before? Listen to yourself if you don't believe me. You're no different than I in respect to God. You're either praising God or cursing God, using His name in vain. It's our sinful nature as His created son or daughter. None of us can help it. There are lots of popular sayings but not everyone uses the same ones except when it comes to our true position as sons or daughters of our Maker Jesus Christ. Who you cursed 10 x today, huh?
lederereddy 6 months ago
@lederereddy That doesn't mean he's real. Those names and sayings have simply become common things for people to say. You insist upon the idea that it's all real. You gotta back it up. And don't tell me to back myself up. I'll just refer you straight back to Mr. Hitchens up top.
By the way, if you haven't already noticed I'm just trolling for fun. Religion videos are easy trolling targets. :D
sinshyft117 6 months ago
@sinshyft11"Those names and sayings have simply become common things for people to say"
Common is one thing but cursing/praising God is not only phenomenally exponential, universal and with intense frequency it's personal. There is nothing in the verbiage of all mankind that comes anywhere near it. I'm observing and assigning a spiritual but none the less legitimate cause for a known behavior. In other words, there's a reason for the behavior and denial is a band-aid on a cancerous brain tumor.
lederereddy 6 months ago
@sinshyft117 "By the way, if you haven't already noticed I'm just trolling for fun."
How's the fishing?
lederereddy 6 months ago
@lederereddy It's pretty good, Go on a atheist video and start talking shit. It's fun. They start raging as much as any religious person. 'Cause it's like you're still challenging and fucking with their beliefs. Anybody gets pissed about that. I dunno, I find it fun but I always let people know that, in truth, I don't give a fuck either way and I'm just being stupid.
sinshyft117 6 months ago
@sinshyft117 Yeah? When you die you're going to heaven. It's nothing but fluffy white clouds and harp music forever and ever and ever interrupted occasionally by some christian saying "told ya so" Told Ya so" "Neener neener neener" Ha ha! How am i doing? =)
lederereddy 6 months ago
@lederereddy That'd be good for like a sarcastic comeback sorta thing. lmfao. It'd work though. It's a good start. You have to make sure you insist on the fact that they're wrong and you're right though. You gotta press that in. Then they really get pissed and that's when you use that kinda stuff just to tease them haha.
sinshyft117 6 months ago
The description of heaven is shitty. I'm glad I won't be going or anyone else.
Aminah6623 7 months ago
1.41 Hitch tries to stay awake while the rabbi drones on.
lewisner 7 months ago
What a classic expression at 1:40. Poor Christopher, I bet all of the subjecting himself to the blathering of sheep was the source of his cancer. Anything in the quantities he imbibed on his book tour must be carcinogenic.
myerssa7 7 months ago
@seraph101 I'm not religious either, but for you to say to someone, "All you do is threaten people and behave like assholes. Fuck of, please"...you do realize you sound like a hugely hypocritical asshole right? Just saying.
andariel1844 7 months ago
Quote mining from biogists and copy pasting from creationist websites. Its funny that you think you are making an argument here when its obvious that the real reason you deny science, the fact that you are an evolved ape, is because you want the bible to be true. Its sad. Dont tell me about genetics, ok? I'll go to professionals for that.
You still havent answered the question btw. Which isnt at all surprising really. Canine into what? A scaly, cold blooded, water dweller? By 2045?
spacecowboy95 7 months ago
@spacecowboy95 - You are not interested in science. You are interested only in maintaining the same plastic theories and evolutionary tripe and technical bluff that fills the textbooks and is rehashed occasionally by Scientific American and National Geographic. I have given you FACTS from genetics and biology why macro evolution cannot and will never happen. But the truth is the farthest thing from your mind.
bgibb101 7 months ago
@bgibb101 "You are interested only in maintaining the same plastic theories and evolutionary tripe and technical bluff that fills the textbooks and is rehashed occasionally by Scientific American and National Geographic"
Evolution is accepted by every professional scientific institute on the planet. Creationists like you are a whiny, fringe minority who get laughed at and have a track record of deliberate fraud. So keep all that bitterness to yourself, OK? Get over it, you're wrong.
spacecowboy95 7 months ago
@spacecowboy95 - "Evolution is accepted by every professional scientific institute on the planet. OK?
Yet, you cannot even disprove my points concerning the genetic frameshift in those lizards, which did NOT amount to an 'evolutionary" change - just an adaption to a different diet. They are, and will always be lizards. Every living thing on our planet can only reproduce more of its own kind. The amount of genetic information encoded in the biology of all life is programmed this way. Period
bgibb101 7 months ago
@bgibb101 "did NOT amount to an 'evolutionary" change"
Except their anatomy and behaviour changed over time via a process of natural selection acting on random mutation. You'd deny the sky was blue if jesus told you.
"Every living thing on our planet can only reproduce more of its own kind"
Yep, a cat wont one day magically give birth to a dog. That is not what evolutionary theory suggests. You need to go back to 6th grade. Unbelievable how misinformed you are.
spacecowboy95 7 months ago
so funny hitchens sitting there fidgeting, fucking fuming at the bullshit from the others. love his straight talking .
bearwoodcarpentry 8 months ago
The reason why religious zealots are heaving and beginning their mobilization is because they fear this new atheist trend. I must have gotten a dozen+ flyers about how atheism is on the rise and march, 'aggressively' attacking all. I see it as a changing platform. But I'm deist, so I could care less lol
LordKaisen 8 months ago
i use that celestial north korea all the time hitch is really fun to rip off
phildirt3 9 months ago
Religious discourse belongs in a nuthouse.
jezmundberserker 9 months ago
"I don't want to live in some fucking celestial North Korea." POW!!!
seraph101 9 months ago 7
Priceless !!!
grandadpoppyable 8 months ago
@seraph101 - Good news for Hitchens - he doesn't have to. The bad news is, he isn't going to like where he is going - for eternity.
bgibb101 7 months ago
@bgibb101 Hahahaha. :D You religious folks are truly retarded. All you do is threaten people and behave like assholes. Fuck off, please.
seraph101 7 months ago
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HighPoweredLasers 10 months ago
Hey "Mr." Harold Kushner, remember Psalm 78:58-59, "They angered God by building shrines to other gods; they made him jealous with their idols. When God heard them, he was very angry, and he completely rejected Israel." The mixing of Judaism and other religions is completely prohibited in the Jewish faith. That was a coward of an answer and you don't deserve the title of a Rabbi. Only those who will be proud of their religion and live by it unapologeticly deserve to have such a title.
MrTsmoove88 10 months ago
Judaism is a copy of other preabrahamic cults - circumcision is from Egypt, the 10 commandments are a copy of the 13 negative questions - Judaism Shmudaism - we're sick of these 3 fucking abrahamic babylonian cults - muslims and their animal sacrificing - see what they do to camels - eid camel sacrifice - in the name of this fucker abraham who never even existed - and jews and christians and all their bullshit - jesus is a horrific effigy of a giant human sacrifice - rabbis mullas priests = evil
timewilltell7 9 months ago
@timewilltell7 Well stupid, Judaism never claimed to be the first religion to have encountered God. Judiasm claims to be the first chosen religion by God. Noah is not a jew yet he had a relationship with God that God considered righteous. You prove your ignorance through you vulgar language and lack of knowledge about what Judiasm and Christianity is. I suppose that eating meat is a "evil" and stupid practice because there were people here before us that ate meat. Please shut up dummy!
MrTsmoove88 9 months ago
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Ninjaheman 10 months ago
i think we can agree that most atheists attack major religions for their over influence and power over people and lack of evidence/science to back up historical claims.to hell with the idleness of jesus etc. the only path. but the atheist fails to the see the benefits of feeling a connection through the interconnectivity with-in ourselves, and the universe leading to a unified positive moral happy clean world. we dont call it jesus, or muhamed, we call it "love", we give a shit, essentially
Caliban201 10 months ago
I think religious or not, no one is wrong, and we should all believe what we will, but never force our beliefs on others.
bexxy115 11 months ago
One cannot PROVE that there is or is not a God. The problem with religious fundamentalists and atheistic fundamentalists, is that they are BOTH closed minded . Hitchens makes some fine points- but then compromises them by engaging in absolutism himself. - something which these men clearly do not. He prejudges, makes ad hominem attacks- then generalizes. Fundamentalism in all its' guises puts limitations on the quest for human knowledge attempting to give answer to essential ultimate questions.
rickw1100 11 months ago
@rickw1100 Only mathematical equations can really be proven but we can make logical judgements about what we percieve to be true. All atheists say is that there is no reason to think a God exists, and certainly no evidence to base your entire life on a religion. That is not closed minded, that is logical deduction.
LowleyUK 11 months ago
@LowleyUK -Only mathematical equations can really be proven?! Really ? I believe most scientists/mathematicians would disagree.- It is "logical deduction" to believe that something does not exist or even have the possibility of existence because there is, as yet, no tangable "evidence" to point at? That is not logical deduction, that is ignorance. Following that "reasoning" -we'd still be living in caves. Human beings seek answers to ultimate questions. No reason to believe in God? LOL!
rickw1100 11 months ago
@rickw1100 Well you are clearly biased but let me first of all qualify my opening point. The point I was trying to make is that most things cannot be objectively proven to be 100% true but nevertheless we can still come to conclusions using evidence, you suggest atheists and believers are both equally ignorant but one relies on evidence so your point is a non sequiter. Secondly, God is not certainly not necessary in seeking answers to ultimate questions.
LowleyUK 11 months ago
@LowleyUK- Ha ! The ad hominem argument-the last refuge of the intellectual coward. The only non sequiter here is your grossly unscientific belief that denies the possibilty of something, because there is, as yet, no tangable evidence that it exists. Fundamentalist atheism does not rely on evidence, like biblical fundamentalism, it closes the conversation from the start by erroneous presumption (it will not look through the telescope). Both are more concerned with "being right" than the Truth.
rickw1100 11 months ago
@rickw1100 Excuse me? What personal insult did I make? So far the only insult was made by you. And you are very presumptious aren't you, how do you know these things about me, how do you know I think a God is impossible? You seem to be missing my whole point which is, I do not believe in a god because I have not been given any reason to, If evidence arose I would acknowledge it, but so far there is none. What is unscientific about this stance, scepticism is the default position of any scientist.
LowleyUK 11 months ago
@LowleyUK -You are sadly, the flip side of the biblical fundalmentalist coin. They expect us to deny evolution and reason and you expect us to close our minds to the infinite possibilities of life and creation. Both are an invitation to despair and ignorance. Open your mind to the wonderful, infinite, possibilities of having the supreme honor of being alive and discovering the answers to ultimate questions.
rickw1100 11 months ago
@rickw1100 It would be a good idea to actually read my comment before posting your reply but I can see you have no interest in discussing anything. You attack reasonable and logical thinking as close minded. I have answers to most of my ultimate questions, such as why are we here, what happens when we die etc, you don't need a god to answer them, so why don't you open your mind. I won't even read your next reply since you clearly ignored mine.
LowleyUK 11 months ago
@LowleyUK -Wow !! You KNOW what happens when we die? Really? You actually KNOW !! Than you are the only person I've met you claims such a knowledge. Please share it with the rest of us. "Inquiring minds want to know".
rickw1100 11 months ago
"I don't want to live in some fucking celestial North Korea for one thing, where I have to praise the dear leader from dawn till dusk."
HAHAHAHAHAHA
HybridEnergy 11 months ago
Never underestimate human denial. Theists are slowly going down, kicking and screaming.
Every time science discovers new evidence that flies in the face of religious teachings, theists spin that information into lies that fit their agenda. They are the middlemen between truth and enlightenment. Never trust a middleman.
ejdf870 11 months ago
It's always been :
Science finds out something new,
Certain religious leaders incorporate what has been found out into their preachings,
these religious views that ADAPT then get carried on because people can still acceptably believe them,
hence...
RELIGION EVOLVES!!!!! DUH DUH DUUUUH SHOCK HORROR OOoooh
grannysnatcha 11 months ago
who's idea was it to put christopher hitchens on an equal platform with these two children. it must be insulting to hitch to have to sit there with those morons
Freethinker12341 11 months ago
Hitch was TOO smart for this forum
Andrewlohbihler 11 months ago
@Andrewlohbihler ya i know this is like the easiest it gets for hitch
Freethinker12341 11 months ago
Hitch Slapped!!!
natdrip 11 months ago
Another thing. Hitchens talks about the people who were murdered in the name of religion. My question is would there be war, conflict and fighting if religion wasn't around? The answer is yes, because there have been many wars without a religious cause. Russian revolution, Napoleonic wars, Chinese revolution, War in Vietnam just to give a few. So this idea the without religion we would be living in some utopic paradise were we all loved each other is false and wishful thinking
jamaicanification 1 year ago
@jamaicanification Who said we would be living in some utopian paradise without religion??
Moun10eer14 11 months ago
I like how on all your videos you cover them with a link to your website... classy.
matthewboxx 1 year ago
'celestial north korea', perfect. Even the religious nuts knew he had them with that one.
aegisgfx 1 year ago
Hitchens is a mediocre ape. Have any of you even read one of his works? Do you need your intellectual food handed to you in the form of an easy-to-swallow youtube personality before you'll pay any attention? Have you read ANYTHING other than anime fan-fiction?
I despise this new breed of faggy pseudo-intellectuals the internet is churning out - people who haven't read a book in their lives, yet fancy themselves philosophers. Go and namedrop Hitchens to your hipster friends you failures.
Intelectual95 1 year ago
@Intelectual95 ...Hitchens' "fans" don't have any friends, sir.
uralldiseasedXD 1 year ago
@Intelectual95
Your nickname is ironic
drche420 1 year ago
hitchen opens his mouth and nothing but filth comes out because, as the Bible says, that's exactly what is in his heart - just that: filth.
sthcrox 1 year ago
@sthcrox "as the bible says..."..yes? were you going to finish the thought or is it just more empty rhetoric? Something tell me you're one of those people who is afraid to ask big questions because you might get scary answers. At any rate, write Hitch and tell him you thoughts, unfinished as they were, on "filth" in his heart, it'll make his day.
i3u7n5 1 year ago
@i3u7n5
if swearing F-word is not filth to you, then i truly understand why yu are offended at my post.
what i was trying to expose is this dude is really a fool who doesn't really believe in what he's preaching but he has to do it because his ego won't let him turn back now. both him and dakwn dude...heheheh , 'ok?
sthcrox 1 year ago
@sthcrox The Bible says Christopher Hitchens has filth in his heart eh? A book that warrants genocide, slavery, sex slavery, infanticide, killing of homosexuals; THIS BOOK, says Christopher has filth in his heart? Well, it would know I guess. To defend CH (not that he needs a defender) he has never recommended anything like that and is a moral exemplar doing what he can to free people's minds from that kind of, to borrow a phrase, filth
LeBigMacDaddy 1 year ago
@LeBigMacDaddy
you can remain in the darkness with your hitchens & dawkins dudes.
the bible says, Without God you are in the dark. You will never come out of the darkness while you reject God.
sthcrox 1 year ago
@sthcrox A god that commands all of the below atrocities I mentioned, if he exists, would be forcing darkness upon me. I wouldn't dream of being even an impassive spectator to those atrocious things. No, light comes when you have the strength of mind to say that I don't need it, I don't want it and there's not a fragment of evidence to support it. And then you can decide for yourself what's moral without the Old Testament's pernicious influence
LeBigMacDaddy 1 year ago
@LeBigMacDaddy
like i said, you are obviously in the dark, that's why you can't SEE it! a person who is in the dark is so darkened that he/she does not know where he is. don't you see? you are angry at God for commanding hings because you have no understanding of who He is and Why He does it!
Strength of mind=Light? Really?? Do you think that all the evils committed by 'enlightened' great men of history are evidence of Light?
Jesus is the ONLY Light of this universe. Everything else is dark.
sthcrox 1 year ago
@sthcrox I can't be angry at someone/thing I don't believe in. So tell me oh illuminated one, why does he command these things? And why are you happy believing in someone/thing capable of making you a mass murderer at his divine whim? Sounds pretty hellish to me I have to say. Good job there's no evidence for it or I'd be perturbed
LeBigMacDaddy 1 year ago
@LeBigMacDaddy
I can't teach you the whole of God in this post, and assuming you are intelligent enough, I will point you to the path and let you do your own research yourself.
The KEY to understanding God, Creation, Good, Evil, Satan, Universe, Nature, Hell, Heaven, ...in fact, Everything, is to UNDERSTAND THE CROSS. To fully understand why the cross, and what took place on the Cross.
After you researched the meaning of the Cross, THEN you can decide on God. That's honesty & intelligence.
sthcrox 1 year ago
@sthcrox @sthcrox You're trying to use the crucifixion to explain too much. How is the supposed story of a man's grisly torture going to explain the mysteries of the universe? I do know of the story and it makes no sense to me. If I do someone wrong, no one can bleach that stain. You mean to tell me that I can theive, double cross, hurt everyone I love and all I have to do is say, "I accept Jesus" with my dying breath, and all these things are scrubbed from the slate? That's anti morality
LeBigMacDaddy 1 year ago
@LeBigMacDaddy
Wahtever sin yu do is still Sin. And that is why yu will go to Hell. BUT...the moment you seriously feel in your heart that you really want TO BE FORGIVEN, that you want your slate clean, and if that moment you recognise that it is Jesus only that can wash your sins away, and if you turn to Him and just ask for forgiveness, that's the VERY MOMENT He will clean you up (it's called washed in the Blood). Then He will give yu a NEW MIND & NEW HEART and you will think/act differently
sthcrox 1 year ago
@LeBigMacDaddy
Every little sin you do is still sin, and that is what separates Man from God: the Sin. God is pure and He hates any Sin. No man can cheat nor mock God.
BUT...the moment your heart yearns to be forgiven, renewed, start-again, washed clean,...and if you acknowledge that Jesus died on the cross to shift your sins to Him and His forgiveness to you, and if you simply call upon His name for forgiveness, and decide in your heart to start anew, that's the VERY MOMENT you are FORGIVEN.
sthcrox 1 year ago
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@LeBigMacDaddy
Every little sin you do is still sin, and that is what separates Man from God: the Sin. God is pure and He hates any Sin. No man can cheat nor mock God.
BUT...the moment your heart yearns to be forgiven, renewed, start-again, washed clean,...and if you acknowledge that Jesus died on the cross to shift your sins to Him and His forgiveness to you, and if you simply call upon His name for forgiveness, and decide in your heart to start anew, that's the VERY MOMENT you are FORGIVEN.
sthcrox 1 year ago
@sthcrox "like i said, you are obviously in the dark....." And you are obviously arrogant and presumptuous. Emotional blackmail no longer works on many of us, but it seems to on you. Emotional attachment to belief, under the guise of "faith", does not make it true. We have NO eyewitness accounts of Jesus' life. The gospels were written anonymously and in the 3rd person. The names were added later. Mark, the earliest, was written around 65 AD. Base your life on hearsay.
richwfd2002 1 year ago
@richwfd2002
Peter, James, John, Matthew, etc etc are ALL eyewitnesses of what Jesus did. They walked with Him every single day of His ministry.
Get your facts right. It is clear that you are a dishonest researcher for you have not carried out a proper research of the facts BEFORE you come here and trumpet that God is not true. Be an honest seeker and you will be shocked at how so much you don't know yet!
sthcrox 1 year ago
@sthcrox We don't reject god. We reject you. Typical "christian" mischaracterizing someone's argument in an attempt to validate their own beliefs. You guys are such liars.
richwfd2002 1 year ago
@richwfd2002
Tell the truth: YOU reject God. If you reject Jesus (as revealed in the Bible) you have rejected God. Or didn't you know that? Or are you trying to confuse and ended up being confused yourself? Come to the light.
sthcrox 1 year ago
@sthcrox - I'm with you brother, but remember; Do not cast your pearls before swine.
bgibb101 1 year ago
@sthcrox And what about all the contradictions in the buy bull?? Mark and Luke give different genealogies of Joseph and Genesis 1 and 2 give different orders of creation. There are many others. If this is the best your god can do, then he is an inept communicator, but I know you will continue to choose willful ignorance and defend him/her/it or whatever........
richwfd2002 1 year ago
@richwfd2002
There are NO contradictions in the Bible. You simply do not understand them. There is a good explanation of each allegations you may have about the bible. Research on them honestly and you will be surprised. Happy search, friend.
sthcrox 1 year ago
@sthcrox Sorry to butt in but you said there are no contridictions in the bible. Okay, when did the disciples know the fig tree had withered after Jesus cursed it?
souldude81 1 year ago