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  • WJ says why cena sucks best now, the crowd reaction argument is stupid when its so obvious that wwe wants us to like cena as a face. What happened when people booed the rock? he joined the NOD, WCW and hogan? NWO... the boring and repetitive nature of his character means it needs a change.

  • Last time Cena ut someone over clean was CM Punk TWO PPVs IN A ROW. Anyways, don't hate on John Cena, hate WWE Creative. They make Cena, SuperCena. Cena just doing his job, get off his damn back.

  • @Cali2VA

    Technically it wasn't really clean because there was always that sense of ambiguity. The first time Cena got distracted with Vince and Ace and when he went back in he got owned with the GTS and lost.

    The second time he had his foot on the rope (or I think it was under) and Trips didn't see it. I'm a fan of Cena, but not of how creative seems so scared to just let him lose.

  • @HowTingz True, true. I agree, but I don't think creative should be scared to let him lose. Cena is at the point where he is so over, it doesn't matter of he loses. I remember when The Rock was at his peak, as was Steve Austin...they both jobbed cleaned plenty of times. But idk, different times

  • @Cali2VA

    Agreed. But notice how Vince seems to be pushing the guys he trusts will stay in WWE for the long haul and not leave them high and dry (like Rock and Austin).

    I think what WWE should do right now is build their midcard strongly so at least we'd have a good circulation of main eventers. The problem I'm seeing is that they pull guys up prematurely and squash them with Cena and Orton before they can even seem believable.

  • Like I said Vince mcmahon won't change his booking until Cena doesn't draw money. Period. Smarks hate that their is no competition to make WWE pay for horrible booking.

  • A true wrestling fan likes guys who put it all on the line night in and night out. So you proved my point

  • Well that's the booker's fault,not John Cena's fault,he's just doing his job & what he is told to do.I heard he wanted to go heel for WM23 against HKB but WWE denied it, & he was upset with the WM27 finish, so he has voiced his opinions before if those rumors are true.

  • You ever think that the reason they don't listen to you guys is bc you guys try to act like you know everything when you really don't? You think they aren't listening. They are ALWAYS listening. Didn't they make fun of the dumbass internet fans in a angle using CM Punk who also can't stand internet smart marks? Nobody that has ever worked with Cena has a bad thing to say about him. Bret Hart, and guy that I'm sure you respect. He LOVES John Cena and thinks he is perfect where he is right now.

  • @Unrattled Look man I just wanna say I respect Cena as a person 100% I love what he does for the WWE and the role model he is for kids...My only problem is the booking of his character and I already explained why...In the end I understand he is a hard worker but sometimes you have to lose and come back from adversity to get fans emotionally invested into the product and that never happens when Cena is in a feud with someone because it is always the same old shit!!!

  • @dreamboy899 well I will say you are entitled to you opinions, but here is a question for you. Is the crowd silent when Cena comes out? and I'm talking so silent that you can hear a pin drop in that arena?

  • @Unrattled No but that really doesn't matter because like I said before its about more then crowd reactions!!!

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  • @dreamboy899 yes it does matter man, because thats why Cena is over and why he will stay over. Crowd reactions play a huge part in how a match is presented and will determine weather or not if a wrestler is going over. What part of that are you not understanding. The crowd can boo or cheer him all they want. Its not gonna matter!!! This not rocket science. Didn't you hear anything @GoodMicWork said in that video? I don't understand what part of this your not getting

  • Lets see list of people John Cena has put over or tried to help push. Wade Barrett, The Miz, Randy Orton, Sheamus, Zack Ryder, Daniel Brian, Alberto Del Rio. CM Punk, Edge, Rob Van Dam, Batista, and about him always losing in a dirty way. Dude when has the top babyface in the company ever lost clean? Heels are supposed to cheat, break the rules and be dirty. If Cena lost a match clean to a top heel like Mark Henry. What reason would we have to boo Henry?

  • @Unrattled Its Funny how you said those are the wrestlers Cena "tried to push" because none of those wrestlers benefited from feuding with Cena and it hurt them more then anything...Just because he is a face of the company doesn't mean he has to win all the time...It's all about coming back from adversity and Cena never does!!!

  • @dreamboy899 dude what part of "its all about the reaction" do you fans not get? Its bc he is cheered and booed that he is over all the time. You wanna prove that you don't like Cena. Stay quiet when he comes out to the ring. Go get something to eat. Weather you like Cena or hate him. You are always talking about him, your always making noise when he comes out and you are always reacting. Cena will always be on top until people all over the world stop reacting to him. Any wrestler will say this.

  • @Unrattled Instead of repeating what GoodMicWork said in his video why could you not come with your own points?...The fact of the matter is it is more then about crowd reactions it is about his character...Cena can get all the boos and cheers whatever but his character is stale and boring and who ever he is in a feud with it never benefits them...All the top babyfaces in the WWE in the past Rock, Stone Cold, etc lost matches...Like I said before it's all about coming back from adversity!!!

  • @dreamboy899 I don't need to come up with my own points dude. Everything he said is true. There is nobody that is involved with wrestling that will say it isn't true. I've shown that video to every person I know thats involved and so far they all think he's right, and I also showed them what you said in that comment and they said thats just another blinding excuse used to dislike Cena.

  • @Unrattled Look man everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect your opinion but the fact of the matter is you haven't said anything to back up any thing you have stated...Its more then about crowd reactions its about character development...And Cena's character has turned into a boring ass never lose face that no one cares about...You may not agree with that but that is the truth!!!

  • @dreamboy899 I mean bro common. You may hate me for saying this, but the fans are complete dumbasses. Don't listen to anything these motherfuckers say ok. They don't know the 1st thing about how anything works. They don't even know which way is left. They are too busy being caught up in their own bullshit to understand how things are and how the operate.

  • @Unrattled No offense but when you are just repeating what someone else has said word by word makes your comments have no credibility...I respect your opinion and GoodMicWork's opinion as well but there is no way anyone can defend what Cena's character has become...And that is why wrestling fans are sick of him!!!

  • @dreamboy899 well I'm sorry if I sound like I repeating what he said man, but its the truth. These fans don't know the 1st thing about anything. The fans can say they are sick of him all they want, but at the end of the day. They still buy tickets, and they still watch the show that Cena performs on. What your saying is nothing new man. It been said about every single person thats been the poster child for the company.

  • @Unrattled Well man all it comes down to is Cena's character is stale and no one cares about him except for little kids...Yes he is a role model but sometimes kids have to be disappointed...As far as wrestling fans go we pay our hard earn money to support these wrestling companies they should give a shit about our opinions on their product...Of course they don;t which is a major problem in itself but eventually they will have to realize they have to give the fans what they want!!!

  • @dreamboy899 I also wanna throw this in. This from somebody IN the business in response to that comment.

    "every top babyface was shoved down the fans' throats, from Bruno to Hogan to Warrior to Dusty booking himself on top to Sting to The Rock, to Austin and now Cena and Orton

    I guess the smarks forget about 5 years of Hulkamania never losing a match much less the WWF Title or the chants of "DIE ROCKY DIE" or "ROCKY SUCKS" because fans were sick to death of the Rock beating guys like Benoit"

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  • Cena needs a new gimmick to be honest. Fruity pebbles for kids angle is lost on us older fans. It's great for the children to have a hero to root for, but sometimes kids need to learn how to get let down too. It's all about coming back from adversity...not just being the best at everything.

  • If your a real wrestling fan you appreciate Cena's work ethic, but you realize Vince McMahon has lost how to create new stars

  • @Boseman7 You can appreciate someone's work ethic but not be a fan of theirs. I am not a John Cena fan at all. Nothing about him appeals to me, but that doesn't mean I'm not a true wrestling fan

  • I agree 100%

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