loving the old skool vid, As for the haters get back on that 1st rung. As for the players respecting all styles trad or modern, after 16yrs of wing chun, choy lay fat, chin woo & door work, as long as you practice, practice, practice and practice a lil bit more why does it matter where the arena is?
there is no such thing as a poor student only a poor teacher
Great resource for those of us who include the Wu Tang system in our repertoire. Why do the MMA guys I know(stone cold bone crushers, to a man) seem to respect others' training. Is it because they are too focused on their own training to worry about what everyone else is doing? Only on Youtube do I hear this garbage.
If you are that much concerned about chang chuan's effectivity on the ground, you should simply train the techniques of "MMA guys". Because they're clearly more refined than the several half-assed takedowns on see on this video.
Just because the demonstrations in this video were half-assed, it doesnt mean that the actual techniques in chang chuan aren't effective. That's like eating one bad apple then saying that all apples are mealy... it just isnt the case. You do make a good point though: if you find that one art has a weak point, learn another to cover a weak spot. But that concept isn't anything new; the Chinese have been doing it for more than a millenia now.
Well if you are constantly getting bad apples, you know there's something fishy about the tree ;-)
But don't get me wrong; I like kung-fu. It's the fanboys that are annoying.
As for kung-fu's groundfighting skill, let me tell you something:I haven't see anything in kung-fu that would be a bit close to the sophistication and effectivenes of BJJ. I don't know why; perhaps the Chinese just haven't focused on that enough.
@CarNikolaj Well, when one becomes proficient in Chin Na, one of the four critical aspects of Chinese kung fu training, it can easily be applied when on the ground. Chin Na covers joint locks from head to toe. Many of the techniques can easily be applied while on the ground. And in fact many of the Chin Na and Shuai Jiao techniques are designed to bring the opponent to the ground and immobilize him.
@SevenThirtyFive Not true. Chinna teaches you how to lock joints when you are standing. It doesn't teach you the skills (the "kung/fu") that are needed for high-level grappling on the ground. These only can be learned while actually wrestling and I don't think any kungfu system teaches them. Judo, western wrestling and BJJ do.
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146358ajs 1 year ago
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you,
jantjesjantje 1 year ago
loving the old skool vid, As for the haters get back on that 1st rung. As for the players respecting all styles trad or modern, after 16yrs of wing chun, choy lay fat, chin woo & door work, as long as you practice, practice, practice and practice a lil bit more why does it matter where the arena is?
there is no such thing as a poor student only a poor teacher
WongFeiFox 1 year ago
Great resource for those of us who include the Wu Tang system in our repertoire. Why do the MMA guys I know(stone cold bone crushers, to a man) seem to respect others' training. Is it because they are too focused on their own training to worry about what everyone else is doing? Only on Youtube do I hear this garbage.
siulumlion 2 years ago
MMA is no good style just Bulls in a rink....
this is nice style...
bugatchiuomo 2 years ago
オメコ
KAKIUCHI69 2 years ago
increible, es un placer encontrar estos videos muchas gracias.
melkomelko 4 years ago
this is y MMA guys don't make me doubt chang chuan. u see the ground defense. Longfist can adapt easily in the hands of a smart fighter!
sinistavoicez 4 years ago
If you are that much concerned about chang chuan's effectivity on the ground, you should simply train the techniques of "MMA guys". Because they're clearly more refined than the several half-assed takedowns on see on this video.
CarNikolaj 2 years ago
Just because the demonstrations in this video were half-assed, it doesnt mean that the actual techniques in chang chuan aren't effective. That's like eating one bad apple then saying that all apples are mealy... it just isnt the case. You do make a good point though: if you find that one art has a weak point, learn another to cover a weak spot. But that concept isn't anything new; the Chinese have been doing it for more than a millenia now.
TaoOfTheFist 2 years ago
Well if you are constantly getting bad apples, you know there's something fishy about the tree ;-)
But don't get me wrong; I like kung-fu. It's the fanboys that are annoying.
As for kung-fu's groundfighting skill, let me tell you something:I haven't see anything in kung-fu that would be a bit close to the sophistication and effectivenes of BJJ. I don't know why; perhaps the Chinese just haven't focused on that enough.
CarNikolaj 2 years ago
@CarNikolaj Well, when one becomes proficient in Chin Na, one of the four critical aspects of Chinese kung fu training, it can easily be applied when on the ground. Chin Na covers joint locks from head to toe. Many of the techniques can easily be applied while on the ground. And in fact many of the Chin Na and Shuai Jiao techniques are designed to bring the opponent to the ground and immobilize him.
SevenThirtyFive 11 months ago
@SevenThirtyFive Not true. Chinna teaches you how to lock joints when you are standing. It doesn't teach you the skills (the "kung/fu") that are needed for high-level grappling on the ground. These only can be learned while actually wrestling and I don't think any kungfu system teaches them. Judo, western wrestling and BJJ do.
CarNikolaj 11 months ago
awsome!!
piguahand 4 years ago
Great!! 饮水思源,千万不能忘记自己的根。
中华民族加油!!
yinghonghaohan319 4 years ago
謝謝你支持!!對岸的同志!!
stevenjr518 4 years ago
Woa, Steven a lot thanks for share, I like so much, was a real placer for me.
rhinokung 4 years ago
thank you, it's happy to share them with you.
stevenjr518 4 years ago