William Shakespeare was involved in the murder of his rival. Read how Shakespeare.rose to prominence right after this murder on Kindle "The Masque of William Shakespeare."
The evidence that Marlowe wrote Shakespeare is that he had a classical education that matches his translations of Ovid. It is important to recognize that the cannon Marlowe/Shakespeare were written by one person. That this person is not Shakespeare but Marlowe is less significant, but also pretty clearly true, considering that Shakespeare does not appear on the scene until his late twenties. This is not snobbery--- Marlowe was a commoner just like Shakespeare.
there is no shakespeare, otherwise there would be no 200 years of contention and mystery, just plain acceptance of the author shakespeare and the man shakespeare, but all we have is intrigue, even dating from the time of the plays themselves. "a moniment without a tomb." marlowe originated blank verse and continued, as 'shakespeare' (his cover identity, at the expense of another man's life), to do so, and in this forfeited his true fame. it's all in the plays, which are the thing, as 't were.
@desamator11 What evidence is there that Marlowe/Morley wrote Marlowe? No evidence really. Shakespeare wrote Marlowe as cover for Govt. courier who succumbed the plague in Netherlands 1592 - the whole tavern brawl is a familiar trope also - written as cover by Shakespeare - 3 'witnesses' obvious proto-types for Pistol, Bardolph and Nym. Slender Marlowe/Morley canon written by Shakespeare
The question can be fun to engage with the era, but if you actually compare what they have written (not just extrapolated data from other essays), anyone can see that they're different authors.
"Of greater significance than the point at which the sense of emulation emerges as documentable evidence is the firmness with which Marlowe’s influence rooted itself in Shakespeare and developed, for it continued to thrive for 18 years after Marlowe’s death, roughly from 1593-1611, the remainder of Shakespeare’s career." (Robert Logan, Shakespeare's Marlowe, 2007)
@MSCblogspot that is because 'Marlowe' was written by Shakespeare; why is there no theatrical tradition concerning Marlowe? because he was never involved with the theatre - was a govt courier called Morley/Marley who succumbed to plague in the Netherlands in c. 1592 - cover story as writer concocted by Walsingham, plays written by Shakespeare who could write under his own name, freely, after Marlowe had been officially despatched. people like to disparage Shakespeare due to snobbery, that's all
@amaxamon how 'bout this?my name is f. marlowe,christopher is related to me and my family.how would you like me to say your a 120% bullshit! now,all of you out there! stop talking nonsense about my family and family name,i don't appreciate it. YES!! I AM A MARLOWE!
Good interview. I like how you pointed out that Marlowe was a prodigy. That's a fit for the natural genius of the play's author right there. While Marlowe was innovating blank verse in his twenties, the Stratford man apparently didn't pen even a single verse. Yet, just two weeks after Marlowe supposedly died, the Stratford man came out the blue as a consumate poet. Weird.
I do like your poems and I'm really happy to see you on film. Your view is very interesting, but it reminds me of a saying of a Hungarian writer, Frigyes Karinthy who about 80 years ago, discussing this Shakespeare issue with friends noticed: 'It seems that Shakespeare's works were written by another Shakespeare.'
@38Attila Yes, the sense that the works of Shakespeare were not written by the man generally attributed to them has been around for a long time (close to 200 years) and is the reason why people began to doubt his authorship in the first place. There is no other writer whose known biography seems such a mismatch with the works supposedly created by him.
Thank you for your answer. I didn't intend to diminish the importance of your research. What you're saying on this interview is fascinating, but I couldn't help quoting that sentence from Karinthy who was famous for making a joke of everything. Perhaps he also meant that the question is not just who Shakespeare was, but it's also what Shakespeare is. I just don't know, I'm an outsider. And your fan. I wish you the best of luck in your research.
Thank you for your answer. I didn't intend to diminish the importance of your research. What you're saying on this interview is fascinating, but I couldn't help quoting that sentence from Karinthy who was famous for making a joke of everything. Perhaps he also meant that the question is not just who Shakespeare was, but it's also what Shakespeare is. I just don't know, I'm an outsider. And your fan. I wish you the best of luck in your research.
Thanks for those "facts", Gregorite:) I'll defer to the Marlowe-Shakespeare Connection blog, rather than starting this whole discussion from scratch. I'd also recommend the website of the Shakespeare Authorship Coalition (doubtaboutwill . . .), which will give you what you're looking for. Listen to the highly respected Shakespearean actor Mark Rylance and what he says re: your query (and the like) on the SAC website. There's also Keir Cutler's video on YouTube "Why Was I Never Told This?"
If you haven't visited the Marlowe-Shakespeare Connection blog, please do. Many great articles on the authorship issue, including a few by Ms. Barber. I love her article on Stanley Wells and the Cobbe portrait of "Shakespeare."
Mark Twain summarized the hard facts re: Shakespeare in two pages. I think you really need to look at the (lack) of evidence re: your man Shakespeare.
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William Shakespeare was involved in the murder of his rival. Read how Shakespeare.rose to prominence right after this murder on Kindle "The Masque of William Shakespeare."
donSatalic 1 month ago
The evidence that Marlowe wrote Shakespeare is that he had a classical education that matches his translations of Ovid. It is important to recognize that the cannon Marlowe/Shakespeare were written by one person. That this person is not Shakespeare but Marlowe is less significant, but also pretty clearly true, considering that Shakespeare does not appear on the scene until his late twenties. This is not snobbery--- Marlowe was a commoner just like Shakespeare.
likebox2 3 months ago
there is no shakespeare, otherwise there would be no 200 years of contention and mystery, just plain acceptance of the author shakespeare and the man shakespeare, but all we have is intrigue, even dating from the time of the plays themselves. "a moniment without a tomb." marlowe originated blank verse and continued, as 'shakespeare' (his cover identity, at the expense of another man's life), to do so, and in this forfeited his true fame. it's all in the plays, which are the thing, as 't were.
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Do Rosicrucians or Freemasons know who Shakespeare really is?
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ChaosButterfly8 4 months ago
Christopher Marlowe was My Way Great GrandFather . Which was my grandmother on my mother side.
Marlin0865 6 months ago
perhaps Shakespeare wrote Marlowe?
axelfalk1 6 months ago
@axelfalk1 no. this is from a (marlowe).
desamator11 6 months ago
@desamator11 What evidence is there that Marlowe/Morley wrote Marlowe? No evidence really. Shakespeare wrote Marlowe as cover for Govt. courier who succumbed the plague in Netherlands 1592 - the whole tavern brawl is a familiar trope also - written as cover by Shakespeare - 3 'witnesses' obvious proto-types for Pistol, Bardolph and Nym. Slender Marlowe/Morley canon written by Shakespeare
axelfalk1 4 months ago
The question can be fun to engage with the era, but if you actually compare what they have written (not just extrapolated data from other essays), anyone can see that they're different authors.
scavengedfantasyname 8 months ago
@scavengedfantasyname
"That he was mightily impressed and influenced by Marlowe is not in doubt; it is also clear that
in his earliest plays Shakespeare stole or copied some of his lines, parodied him, and generally
competed with him. Marlowe was the contemporary writer that most exercised him. . . . He
haunts Shakespeare’s expression, like a figure standing by his shoulder. (Peter Ackroyd, Shakespeare: The Biography, 2005)
MSCblogspot 7 months ago
@scavengedfantasyname
"Of greater significance than the point at which the sense of emulation emerges as documentable evidence is the firmness with which Marlowe’s influence rooted itself in Shakespeare and developed, for it continued to thrive for 18 years after Marlowe’s death, roughly from 1593-1611, the remainder of Shakespeare’s career." (Robert Logan, Shakespeare's Marlowe, 2007)
MSCblogspot 7 months ago
@MSCblogspot that is because 'Marlowe' was written by Shakespeare; why is there no theatrical tradition concerning Marlowe? because he was never involved with the theatre - was a govt courier called Morley/Marley who succumbed to plague in the Netherlands in c. 1592 - cover story as writer concocted by Walsingham, plays written by Shakespeare who could write under his own name, freely, after Marlowe had been officially despatched. people like to disparage Shakespeare due to snobbery, that's all
axelfalk1 3 months ago
Ugh. 100% pure bullshit.
amaxamon 9 months ago
@amaxamon how 'bout this?my name is f. marlowe,christopher is related to me and my family.how would you like me to say your a 120% bullshit! now,all of you out there! stop talking nonsense about my family and family name,i don't appreciate it. YES!! I AM A MARLOWE!
desamator11 6 months ago
Good interview. I like how you pointed out that Marlowe was a prodigy. That's a fit for the natural genius of the play's author right there. While Marlowe was innovating blank verse in his twenties, the Stratford man apparently didn't pen even a single verse. Yet, just two weeks after Marlowe supposedly died, the Stratford man came out the blue as a consumate poet. Weird.
rockhammer85 1 year ago 2
Ms Barber,
I do like your poems and I'm really happy to see you on film. Your view is very interesting, but it reminds me of a saying of a Hungarian writer, Frigyes Karinthy who about 80 years ago, discussing this Shakespeare issue with friends noticed: 'It seems that Shakespeare's works were written by another Shakespeare.'
Best Wishes,
Attila Bánovics, Hungary
38Attila 1 year ago
@38Attila Yes, the sense that the works of Shakespeare were not written by the man generally attributed to them has been around for a long time (close to 200 years) and is the reason why people began to doubt his authorship in the first place. There is no other writer whose known biography seems such a mismatch with the works supposedly created by him.
MarloweAsShakespeare 1 year ago
@MarloweAsShakespeare
Thank you for your answer. I didn't intend to diminish the importance of your research. What you're saying on this interview is fascinating, but I couldn't help quoting that sentence from Karinthy who was famous for making a joke of everything. Perhaps he also meant that the question is not just who Shakespeare was, but it's also what Shakespeare is. I just don't know, I'm an outsider. And your fan. I wish you the best of luck in your research.
Attila Bánovics
38Attila 1 year ago
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@MarloweAsShakespeare
Thank you for your answer. I didn't intend to diminish the importance of your research. What you're saying on this interview is fascinating, but I couldn't help quoting that sentence from Karinthy who was famous for making a joke of everything. Perhaps he also meant that the question is not just who Shakespeare was, but it's also what Shakespeare is. I just don't know, I'm an outsider. And your fan. I wish you the best of luck in your research.
Attila Bánovics
38Attila 1 year ago
Thanks for those "facts", Gregorite:) I'll defer to the Marlowe-Shakespeare Connection blog, rather than starting this whole discussion from scratch. I'd also recommend the website of the Shakespeare Authorship Coalition (doubtaboutwill . . .), which will give you what you're looking for. Listen to the highly respected Shakespearean actor Mark Rylance and what he says re: your query (and the like) on the SAC website. There's also Keir Cutler's video on YouTube "Why Was I Never Told This?"
SebastianHGZ91 1 year ago
If you haven't visited the Marlowe-Shakespeare Connection blog, please do. Many great articles on the authorship issue, including a few by Ms. Barber. I love her article on Stanley Wells and the Cobbe portrait of "Shakespeare."
SebastianHGZ91 1 year ago
I look forward to seeing your facts, Gregorite.
LunaRosa6 1 year ago
@gregorite123 Actually, they're based on 4 years of full time doctoral research funded by the Arts and Humanities Research Council.
escapedmermaid 1 year ago
Gregorite,
Mark Twain summarized the hard facts re: Shakespeare in two pages. I think you really need to look at the (lack) of evidence re: your man Shakespeare.
LunaRosa6 1 year ago
And the HARD evidence that Shakespeare wrote the plays, dude? :)
ChristineA67 1 year ago
also on marlowe-shakespeare.blogspot.com (The Marlowe-Shakespeare Connection blog)
"Shakespeare's Anonymous Death" and "William Shakespeare, Businessman."
Stratfordians need to answer the questions posted by Mr. Kellett, the author.
ChristineA67 1 year ago
And the HARD evidence that Shakespeare wrote the plays, dude? :)
For starters, go to:
marlowe-shakespeare.blogspot.com and check out the article there entitled
"Shake-scene and Shattering the Shakespeare Myth."
ChristineA67 1 year ago