Why are all the comments here so political. She is trying to raise awareness of her experience with the bomb so that NO ONE ever uses it again. Not Japan, not America, and not ANYWHERE. She isn't trying to pass judgement on America.
There was no need for the 2nd bomb, the 1st one yes, the 2nd one no, that was an atrocity no-one can deny that surely ? Plus a lot of it was just the Yanks showing the Russians what power they had, all in all I mournfully agree with the 1st bomb, as they were not gonna surrender, but nah, for me the 2nd one was not really needed.
And i say all this as a relative of somone who suffered terribly at the hands of the Japs in a POW camp.
"Were the atomic bombings militarily necessary? By any rational yardstick, they were not. Japan already had been defeated militarily by June 1945. Almost nothing was left of the once mighty Imperial Navy, and Japan's air force had been all but totally destroyed. Against only token opposition, American war planes ranged at will over the country, and US bombers rained down devastation on her cities, steadily reducing them to rubble."
eanielsen123, war has never solved anything. I am against killing your way to happiness because it doesn't work, all it does is cause death and suffering and destruction and it is an obscenity. Nobody deserves to get nuked, period. What an idiotic statement. You think they deserve it because YOU say so? Well who the hell are you? This world would be much better off if we learned how to solve problems without violence. If you have a problem with that then you're sick inside.
@palcatt Of course the world would be a better place if we all held hands and sang kumbaya together. That would be great. But the world isn't like that and The Germans and the Japanessee in the 30's certainly weren't like that when they were violently and forcefully taking over countries to expand their empires. And let's remember, we wouldn't have got involved if the Japanesse didn't strike us first.
What does that have to do with anything? So you think that anybody that supports their government deserves to die? What their supposed feelings about Pearl Harbor were are irrelevant. Completely. Their feelings don't make them deserving of getting nuked. Pearl Harbor like Hiroshima could have been prevented by the US govt. Neither were their fault.
@palcatt Do you listen to yourself? Fucking idiot. Japanese deserved what they got. Unit 731, Comfort Women, bio chem weapons used on Chinese. You are fucking trash. Nobody gives a shit about the victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Chernobyl was a disaster. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were well justified.
One thought that comes to mind is that these two women are anti war or at least anti nuclear weapons. I wonder if they were among the crowds that cheered the sucessful bombing of Pearl Harbor, or tried to stop the Japanese government's war of agression. I wonder what they think of the biological and chemical weapons used against Chinese civillians by the IJA?
@MrMike3865 Did you not pay attention to the beginning of this? In clear english you were told that they were only children at that time. A child doesn't understand what things like this mean... If they're cheering then they're only doing what everyone else is. They don't deserve to suffer the consequences of something that they're GOVERNMENT did.
@lovedandlucy Civillians DO suffer consequences of the bad things their government does whether they deserve it or not! Especially when that government refuses to surrender in order to "save face" and chooses to continue the war, without even caring about the suffering of their own people.
@MrMike3865 You're kinda furthering my own point. I understand that, and made no argument against it. My argument is simply that they do not deserve to, and that's the point of this video.
The Japanese were horrible raping and killing civilians. They started the war by bombing Pearl Harbor. Flyers dropped warning. We used it on one city. They refused to surrender. We dropped a second they decided to surrender. While horrible, it saved many lives and did end an awful war. We would have killed more people by starvation and bloodshed by invasion. All targets were of military importance. We helped to rebuild their country. We have maintained a friendship with the country
@Naterz100 this was 10 commens condenced for space. This was horrible. However the other choices were worse. we get rid of the bomb today we will be the next targets of the bomb.
@Naterz100 you said that they raped and killed civilians right? So why in the hell would we KILL the same civilians that you speak of...think about it man. Get all of your facts about these events. 120, 000 people died instantly with both of cities combined. 100,000+ people in a matter of seconds, just completely decimated? 100,000 people, what if one of those children killed found the cure for AIDS or Cancer. Don't try to make it seem as if it was necessary.
@DocHavoc0512 Millions would have died with a blocaid and invasion. maybe one of them would have found the cure for aids. But I guess starvation and mass blood shed as the God/man would have every man woman and child fight to the death . we ended it saved lives on both sides. was it a wonderful thin NO war never is.
@Naterz100 furthermore look intoi the batton death marches and the other horible action from Japans troops while in war. Ask an american POW how well they were treated. the list is too long to cover here. Truth is we used it we ended a war years sooner than if we had not. saved lives on both sides. Again this isnt cause to party in the streets people died . when wars are fought with handinf out flowers tell me how bad it is. they started it we finished it. end of story.
@Naterz100 I understand some things are unpreventable, but we could have prevented dropping the bombs. We basically commited genocide on every civilian that was killed. Genocide is much worse than trying to get the Japanese army to surrender by invasion. We intentionally killed those people any way you look at it, we were trying to prove to the Russians that we were superior and did not need their help in the invasion of Japan.
@DocHavoc0512 I understand you point. However, we would have killed many more on both sides. we would have put up a blockaid and starved the whole country not just 2 cities. then in the invasion we would have killed more and we would have lost more. this is the truth. they were not going to surrender with terms agreeable to the US, As it is the US was softer than they would have been on the original terms. I know we droped flyers and warned them we had it before they were dropped.
@Naterz100 yeah i just think it's messed up how all of those innocent people would have had to suffer. It just doesn't sit well with me, they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. That's no reason for them to have been punished/killed
I've mentioned the lynching of blacks whom they had previously enslaved, the medical experiments on the disabled, the witchunts they conducted on innocent gays and eastern europeans, and the bombing tests on innocent micronesians that did AFTER Hiroshima...its not really that far a stretch that they would carry out mass murder of civilians if they were put under pressure. It was an easy way out of a situation they didnt have the depth to handle, and the people in charge didnt really care less.
There is no doubt that a united allies attack would have crippled Japan, and they would have surrended against such odds. They arent stupid.
America simply chose the easy way out, and however you look at it, it DEFINITELY WAS MASS MURDER.Today it sounds multi-massively terrible, but from a country still lynched blacks and experimented on the disabled, its not far out of character for that time period of the USA to take the easy way out rather than the moral one.
I think someone has to admit that both the decision to A-bomb civilians in Japan, or to not do so, were both horribly bad decisions. And yes, there should have been more effort to end things in another way, of course there should have been. Imagine if the atom bomb was dropped on your grandparents by Hitler, well you might not be here to offer any opinion. ANd HItler wouldnt have stopped with 1 or 2 bombs!
Theres no good decisions when it comes to such war scenarios.
US won the war in all phases. Blame the fanatical Japanese military leaders that were more than willing to fight until there was no one left. They were willing the sacrifice the entire population. Would standard bombing be more "moral" to you? Should we have killed them that way? This is your blatant left wing anti American communists here @ work at our universities.There is no controversy . It's your Communist party USA @ work and in full display.I offer NO appologies.It was total war and we 1
@Coolbeanzow 1st- japan didn't need to start a war. 2nd- Those American military people were sleeping when they were attacked. wow, how brave of the "honorable" japanese. 3rd- The j- civilians were in FACT trained by their leaders to fight and kill against the would be Allied invasion. They already did so on Okinawa. Would you of rather seen Okinawa x 10? The j-civs were in FACT soldiers.
CHRIST !!! Is this BORING or what ??? Could someone (who speaks 3rd-World "CHINK") plz translate back to her that no-one gives a flying fuck about the ENDLESSLY LOOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGG story about her brother;s / sister's / aunt's /uncle's *WHATEVERRRRRRRRR" personal stories ... we JUST want to hear about her experiences' with the Bomb that day .... STOP BORING us all this "personal" crap !!!!
omg people.... just watch the video, leave your opinion, and stop criticizing people for leaving THEIR opinions... no one really cares what someone on the internet things of what they're saying... honestly... get a life.
「Barefoot gen」please read it.the story is based writer of barefootgen keiji nakazawa's true experienses. He is 71 years old now. he keep on telling us that terribly of atomicboms now too.this manga isn't for plotect Japan , able to know Japan and America's fact about Hiroshima atmicboms in those days. and Japan's did things in Asia too.There are 8 language trancelate version , now on sell in US from 2009. already,somecountrys a few library have barefootgen. please.
@dreamrealm3 Do you also cry for the Allied civilians who were interned by the japanese? They were enslaved, beaten, tortured, raped, and murdered for absolutely no reason. Do you cry for them too or is this a one way street with you?
@gogman25 The Allies shouldn't have stopped a long and bloody war? You prefer to have the fighting go on for a much longer period of time in which most likely many millions more would have died terrible and gruesome deaths? You are freaky.
@howiseethings I find it freaky how you deem it acceptable to murder 250,000 civilians, wound and deform thousands more and make it so the bomb is still affecting those alive and being born today, those weren't those in the armed forces you butchered, they were women and children.
You are freaky.
Oh, and don't say it was the Allies because many objected to TESTING a weapon like this on civilians, say the Americans or the USA.
@gogman25 Wow, are you ignorant or what? Check out the MAUD PROJECT. It was the British atomic project even before the U.S. got started. As a matter of fact you limeys had such a head start on nuclear weaponry it made the U.S. project look like child's play. Churchill was obsessed by this weapon. He made damn sure it be used. Besides the j-civs were trained to fight and kill the would be ALLIED invasion. They were in FACT soldiers. BTW the concentration camp was invented by you pommes.
@howiseethings Except our concentration camps were nothing like German concentration camps if that's what you are implying you stuck up, obese, ignorant son of a bitch.
The fact is the British still widely object to the use of the atomic bomb, and here's another fact... ALOT OF OUR CIVILIANS WERE TRAINED TO FIGHT A WOULD BE AXIS invasion. Fucking clown.
@gogman25 Speaking of ignorant and blatantly prejudice....take a look in the mirror. Oh no, your concentration camps were symbols of a lovely vacation on the beach. Fucks sakes you fucking pommes with your severely twisted false positive image of the "good empire" (eyes rolling). The fact A LOT of everybody from around the world objects the use of the bomb.......duh.
Bottom line limey boy, j-civs were trained to fight and kill the would be Allied invasion. Get peeved at the j-govt for that.
@howiseethings I love how you have turned this into a an argument.
I never said the Empire was good (although it has helped alot of countries in the long term) and for your information WW2 concentration camps were less like concentration camps and more like The Naughty Juniors camp.
@gogman25 Hypocrite much? Argument? Take a look in the mirror again. Besides you invented concentration camps well before WWII and calling them The Naughty Juniors camp is an exercise in denial.
@howiseethings I never said anything about inventing them during WW2, but WW2 POW camps were significantly nicer than them getting frozen shitless in Russia.
Reading comprehension problem much? You Brits invented concentration camps WELL BEFORE WWII, but they weren't as bad as POW camps? Really?! Ask, the Africans. You will get a DRASTICALLY different answer.
@gogman25 The BRITISH MAUD Project (building an ATOMIC BOMB) was quite advanced for its time it was far more advanced than the Manhattan Project.
Here's a little fun fact that you probably DIDN'T study in pomme school. When Roosevelt died CHURCHILL was actually in charge of the atomic bomb.Truman didn't even know about it until he became president. Churchill was hell bent on using it. He first wanted to get the Germans but they wisely surrendered.The js, well their blind pride makes them dumb.
@gogman25 ? You were whining incessantly about the U.S. about one thing or another I brought up the fact about BRITAIN'S MAUD PROJECT and the fact that BRITAIN started the idea of the CONCENTRATION CAMP and somehow in your little mind these things are not related to WWII? That's funny, because without BRITISH help with the atomic bomb DURING WWII the final product would have been delayed and or not developed, and clearly the concentration camps are a byproduct of your invention. Game on, mate.
@gogman25 You are so funny.Just before you were whinging about keeping the subject on WWII and so the subject has been on WWII but now you want to shift the topic cuz the heat is getting too hot.OK,so the dropping of the bomb STILL involved the U.K. cuz Churchill was a HUGE proponent of using it and the UK had a spotter plane virtually alongside the Enola Gay with Churchill's personal advisor watching the whole time, but don't worry your pomme head you didn't pull the trigger, you just helped.
@howiseethings I love how you turned this into an insult match "pomme head".
Even if we did have involvement, it was still the Americans who held the majority and you'll find that if you want to be serious then you've got to stop using correct grammar and then using abbreviations, it's like you're trying to act high and mighty.
If you hate us so damn much as to use insults im confused as to whether you thought the dropping of the bombs was right or wrong.
@gogman25 (1)Your first comment; "I cry for neither side but I feel sorrow, and I can promise you no matter what they did it's something the USA shouldn't have done.
"Be careful when fighting monsters lest you become one.""
Since the U.S. and the U.K. have had past wars because of U.K. aggression (oops this isn't about WWII) you just may be right or maybe NOT. Gosh golly gee limey boy do you think that if the U.S. wasn't attacked by japan we wouldn't be talking about this? Duh.
@gogman25 My 1st reply to your 1st comment; "The Allies shouldn't have stopped a long and bloody war? You prefer to have the fighting go on for a much longer period of time in which most likely many millions more would have died terrible and gruesome deaths? You are freaky." And then your comment to that was about 250,00 civilian deaths. How WRONG you are. Those "civilians" were in FACT trained by the j-govt to fight and kill the would be Allied invasion. They were in FACT soldiers.
@gogman25 (3) And I love this lame comment, ".. it was still the Americans who held the majority..". My eyes are rolling. You BLATANTLY ignore that you pommes had a very good head start on your own NUKE PROJECT called MAUD.You will also find that scientists from around world had a huge helping hand in the Manhattan Project. Ah yes, but you Brits have come to terms with your past haven't you? Pfft, give me a break. Your self anointed moralistic preaching is laughably hypocritical. Cologne anyone?
I feel sad to see on this boards arguing which side was more justified for violence. The issue here of society is someone always tried to feel superior of one another, not sharing everyone can have the right to live well.
@tokyopiglet Well, who was justified for Violence, that a very simple question, the party that was defending itself was justified to use any amount of force that was necessary to stop the agression and force a surrender of the aggressor. In this case the Axis powers were the agressors while the Allied powers were the defensive party. In war there is no such thing as resonable force, in other words "Total War brings Total Force".
What these people don't tell you is that they were part of the japanese civilian militia who were trained to fight and kill the would be Allied invasion.
Americans are the filthiest most sickening Animals I have ever seen. The shit that they sit down and think of is sickening, truly sickening. 911 was an Inside Job/ Pearl Harbor was a fucking ship and area. Hiroshima was a City and so was Nagasaki... and they Destroyed them all. I just got back from Japan, and looking at some of the Children there, they are still struggling from it. Having bone problems. And they way they walk. Fucked up. I live in America. But Fuck this shit, Nosey Motherfuckers
@Macmittens411 Your just upset because I caught you in a bold faced lie. You claim with your own prejudice that the kids in hiro have health issue. What a crock of shit. I've been to those cities and the kids in those cities don't have any more health issues than any other kid in the rest of the world. Why doesn't anyone complain about the nuclear power plant accidents that happen in japan. After all there are 59 nuclear power plants in japan and they have accidents from time to time.
@howiseethings I dont know what Lie I was telling, I have another page on youtube, but I have to be careful about Idoits like you. I have everything im talking about on tape. Older people have health problems from it u fool. I KNOW. I dont gotta prove nothing to u. And Im goin back again next year, tons of friend and girls thier so suck my c*ck. I didnt go their to do research I went to have fun and shoot a Doc. Im telling u what It looked like and What older people told me. Fuck off.
@Macmittens411 wow. Rambling on like a moron who is caught in a lie. Wow. what are the odds of a moronic liar? A horrible tragedy for your family. I send my condolences to your parents. Um, I live in japan. Have been living here for 23 years. hiro is a thriving modern metropolis with no more problems than any other thriving modern metropolis in the world.I suggest you do your next "Doc" around the nuclear power plants in japan & in particular the ones which had accidents.That'll keep you honest.
@howiseethings LOL... anybody notice this troll?? Check this fools comments on youtube. He's a Japan nut, yes "howiseethings" is a weirdo Japan fanatic. Oh & get this now this idiot is claiming he LIVES in Japan. And his profile still says United States... mmh. it doesnt mean a thing to me. Ure 45 years old u acting like 12. Damn shame. And ure pretty silly I never said I went to Hiroshima u ignorant person. Think what u want u dont know me. ure words dont affect me. The End. (:
@Macmittens411 Are you unaware that Hiroshima was the HQ of the J 2nd Area Army under Field Marshal Hata? 43,000 J troops were in the city & 20k-30k died in the bombing.
There seems to be more comments that say what SHOULD have or COULD have been. Is it possible that we (regardless of our take on the morality of this event) understand how to PREVENT this from ever happening? Perhaps that means, subduing the ego (shown by Japan's resistance to back down, as well as America's unwillingness to be held down)...
This requires both sides to understand the horrific consequences of warfare (spoken in this video) -- and take all genuine steps necessary to stop it.
they were offered many times to surrender and were told what was going to happen but they keep attacking and killing our children and service men and women.The japan military vowed to never stop and would not have.United States dropped 2 bombs and Japan stopped.They should be thankful that the United States did not drop these bombs on Tokyo,which they could of did.
i would like to know why the fact her people and relatives attacked and killed many people here is not addressed? all i ever hear is what united states did and how horrible an act we did.They attacked and killed americans and took their lives while we were not even at war with them.If they have any issues it should be address to their country and their actions which cause our counter.These people act like their country was innocent,which is not true.They attack us!!
Any country that created an atomic bomb is a threat to this world, the mere existence of such bombs is sickening. So can you imagine how sick are the people who make them?
To achieve real world peace isn't through fighting "terrorism", there are far more important matters that most people are blinded from seeing due to the "war against terror" bullshit.
So how is Iraq or Afghanistan a threat to the world? The real threat is the big nations like the US and Russia. Wake up if you didnt know that.
They were given fair warning and didnt heed it . No doubt they would have used it on us if the had the resources.
The Japanese cry over the loss of their civillians, yet the combined total of deaths at Hiroshima and Nagasaki is small compared to the amounts of innocent civillians that they targeted.And they ruthlessly slaughtered clearly thier crimes against humanity lest they forget thier actions wanting to hold the usa for ours.
Many of Hibakusya had experienced harsy discrimination for employment and marriage in Japan. For women, it was a lot more difficult to marry since the future huband re-consider of theri fertility. I heard some women killed themrselve due to those severe discrimination. and also they do not receive enough compensation fee from government to live comfortably due to very limited social policies.
The bombing was tragic .. but it DID save american lives my father included .. hence i wouldnt be here if we had to invade the japan mainland.. the Japanese were ruthless killers all over the world during WWII.. and this woman favored the leaders of her land who killed innocent people in china,korea and philippines... in war American lives are most important ...yes its a tragedy that the bomb was dropped ...people of the world ... be careful of those you choose to lead !
No one seems to remember that without the dropping of the A-Bombs, the war probably would've raged on for quite longer, costing more innocent lives on all sides then the people killed by the bombs themselves. Sure, the loss of innocents was regrettable, but in the end, it saved lives. Shock and awe.
The truly horrifying notion is that it is an inevitability, that this will not have been the last nuclear device used in a war. We have them. It is, regrettably, human nature to eventually utilize power when it is available. As we speak, several nations race to develop their own weapons. Some of them without question intend to use them. Hiroshima was an inexcusable tragedy.
I cant imagine what this would be like...theres no honor in war anymore...we cant fight any country that has nukes with honor because it just comes down to these bombs...the Cold War proves that statement. We need to get rid of the science that teaches people how to create these...make the science behind them and the use absolutely illegal...we dont need them they are only here so if we need to destroy the world around us we can do so.
FYI, Hiroshima was the headquarters of the 2nd Area Army, under Field Marshal Hata. 43,000 J soldiers were in the city and 20k-30k died in the bombing.
This is actually worse than the numerous masssacres the Japanese conducted in territories they controlled, Pearl Harbor, Bataan? They tortured our prisoners, starved people under their rule, and conducted chemical warfare experiments on their own people, and they didn't deserve this? Was this a horrible event? Of course it was, but it actually isnt worse than the combined atrocites committed by the Japanese, most of which have gone forgotten.
I'm sure your country has rapists and criminals too. Would you be feeling the same way if another country decided to commit mass genocide of YOUR race because of the atrocities committed by your own government?
The Atomic bombs were terrible; they ere NOT genocide. If the US had wanted to commit genocide, we could have put an indefinite blockade until millions of Japanese civilians starved.
When General MacArthur got to Japan in late 8/45, he found the country as on the verge of famine. He cabled DC "Send me food or send me bullets" Only the prompt shipment of >500,000 tons of US grain averted mass starvation.
It as only due to the sudden end of the war that MILLIONS of J civilians and 100,000 Allied POWs- lived- starving and massacring POWs was Standard Operating Procedure for the Japanese.
So translation: all things considered, it was way better to to expose the already weakened Japanese citizens to atomic radiation, in which radioisotope decay causes molecular structure to fall apart with the emitting of energy? A disruption to cell and protein structure causes mutations in the way that DNA replicates itself, which ultimately leads to long-term health problems.
Sorry mate. No matter which way you try and look at it, there IS no justifying the use of a biological weapon.
Ironically enough, my godfather, a retired DVM who is now past 90 was working on bioweapons at a base in the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah. Had the war continued to the end of '45, we would've used them and the results for Japan would've been catastrophic.
The justification for the A bombs was ending the war rapidly- with less loss of life than any other alternative
PS have you *ever* talked to a vet of the Pacific War?
Atoms are a significant and important part of biology, as atoms are the reason for the existence of cellular organisms in the first place. Without them, you or anything else in this planet would not exist.
The atomic bomb used atomic energy to break apart molecular structure. As a result of the exposure to radioisotope decay, many hibakusha are still at high risk for cancers and other health problems that result from mutations caused by a disruption in DNA replication.
Some hibakusha are still alive- 64 years after the bombing. Without the bombs, most of them, and MILLIONS of others- mostly *children- ould have been died a horrible slow death from starvation, more than half a century ago.
FAR better than 100k-200k die in H&N, than 100,000 Allied POWs 100,000 Allied servicemen >500,000 J mil and MILLIONS of J civ die from an invasion and starvation.
And you my dear friend, don't know shit about biology or how it works for that matter if you thought atoms had nothing to do with biology. :)
If were in their situation and I had to choose between being nuked and starving to death, I much prefer the latter. Yes it would be slow and miserable, but atleast I wouldn't be dying from radiation poisoning in addition to having my eyes hanging from their sockets and serious burns. To me, that is much worse than starving or being shot at.
First of, It was an Atomic Bomb, not a Nuclear Missile. You wouldn't Die of Radiation poisoning, You would die of Nerve-Shock and Brain Recontraction.- You would have Serious Burns, and you would probably die, unknowingly within the hour.
One last thing, there is alot more to the decision to use the atomic bomb than what you mentioned. It was also a race between other power-hungry nations, such as Germany who was among the first to experiment with atomic fission to use them.
The US concluded that they must not be the first to use an atomic weapon, so the US used it first with Japan as the target. It was also used as a demonstration to Japan that the US had the power to annihilate an entire empire if they refused to surrender.
"The US had the power to annihilate an entire empire if they refused to surrender"
EXACTLY!!!
The A bombs were the ONLY thing that prevented the Japanese militarists from staging a horrible campaign in the Home Islands that would've cost MILLIONS of lives
Again you are making excuses to justify the erroneous use of a biological weapon for reasons that extended far beyond the need to end the war quickly.
NOTHING justifies using a powerful weapon such as the a-bomb because there were other more destructive weapons in the making. Instead that just reinforces the appalling and atrocious nature of the decision to use it.
For Truman NOT to have used the the bombs would have been inexcuseable.
To quote a great book (which I'm sure you never have and never will read- William Manchester's "Goodbye, Darkness" (Manchester was a USMC sergeant whose regiment fought on Okinawa, and suffered 81% casualties): "Thank God for the Atomic bombs"
"As a survivor, I think it is unacceptable to justify any use of nuclear weapons. We must free ourselves from the guilt and blame created by our past indiscretions so that we can approach future conflicts responsibly and ethically. Who can say with certainty that there never will be another 9/11 and that the United States won't be tempted to use nuclear weapons again?"
It is very convenient to say the atom bomb is justifiable when it isn't you who is being affected by it. Put yourself in THEIR place and picture experiencing having your family and friends nuked, and I'm almost certain you would feel quite differently about the situation.
What would Japan do if they got an a-bomb in 1945?
Would they hesitate before dropping it? Would these ladies dress up and join the cherring crowd like they did for the fall of nanjing?
I am not against any country, but it just sounds rediculous to blame weapons, or some individuals for the war. It is the entire human beings that should be responsible for our own crimes and suffering.
why is it that the US govt goes to war with numerous countries and then makes them into allies ?
If the enemy is so bad, how come the US govt eventually makes them allies ?
Do we really need a war to make allies out of enemies ?
If enemies are capable of being allies in the end, why not make peace without war.
It shows that the MIC/politicians should not make business out of war because the people of all nations are peace loving and the enemy leaders can be co-opted
its not about JAPAN or the USA OR ANY CONTRY FOR THAT MATTER it is much much bigger then that its about being a HUMAN BEING CAN YOU COMPREHEND THAT OPEN YOUR CLOSED MINDS WE ALL HAVE TO SHARE THIS PLANET
I'm not an American. I am Canadian so I just want to say that we were involved in the Manhattan Project and we also had an atomic weapon production facility in Ontario.
I am very proud that our government took part in defeating brutal japanese fascism.
Which were worse japanesebelgian? Conventional bombing over days, weeks, months in which hundreds of thousands of people were killed or one atomic bomb in one instant with an actual less number of people killed? What's the difference? I do not understand your mindset and some people like you. You get so incredibly, emotionally, rhetorically upset over this one occurrence and yet you say nothing about other happenings. I am very glad my mind is not trapped like yours.
I never said conventional bombings wre not horrible; I find those inhuman too. But how can one not be upset when the scale of "civilian casualties" is being cranked up all the way to intentionally incinerating hundred thousands of civilians IN A SINGLE STRIKE.
Is your mind unable to grasp how insanely far this has devaluated human life?
I cannot and do not understand your mindset. As I mentioned before what is the difference between conventional bombing which has a same death total, all depending on the severity of the bombing of a week vs. one atomic bomb? You get more upset over a plane crash than for example separate car crashes in different areas yet the death total is the same? Essentially this is what you are saying. This is illogical. It makes no difference. In the end the same amount of people have died.
It makes a huge difference; more precisely, people are killing others on increasingly larger scale and there is less and less discriminating of military targets from civilians. The larger a weapon's individual scale of destruction, the more the civilian:military casualties balance leans to the civilian side.
A-bombs, cruise missiles, cluster bombs, uranium projectiles ... war has shifted to "accidentally" killing civilians in the hopes of having hostile targets caught in the blast radiuses.
You avoided my question. What is the difference between conventional bombing which has a same death total, all depending on the severity of the bombing of a week vs. one atomic bomb?
I was talking about conv. bombs vs. atomic bombs back then, at that time. Certainly, today we have guided conv. weapons which is vastly different than yesteryear.
-There was no difference between conv. vs. atomic bomb back then. Ex: Hamburg; 2 days, 40,000 killed vs. Nagasaki; 1 day 40,000 killed.
-One can still escape an atomic bomb with proper air raid warning.
-Conv. can poison civs. *Poison gas*. Hiro and Naga are viable cities even shortly after the bombs.
What these people don't tell you is how they, as civilians, were trained by their leaders to fight and kill the would be invaders. Essentially they were soldiers and soldiers with intent to fight and kill are targets. They japanese citizenry truly should be pissed off at their leaders for bringing it this far. In retrospect the japanese got off pretty easy because the Russians wanted pay back BIG time and would have ripped the japanese a real big wide new one. That's a fact.
Dropping the A-bombs and fire bombing of Japan and burning alive hundreds of thousands of children, was an act of terror because Japan was already defeated by 8/44
War could have ended and saved lives if the US govt had accepted the Japanese govt's conditional surrender as early as 8/44,just as lives were saved when the US govt agreed on a cease fire from N, Vietnam and N. Korea
But war is about money to the MIC and power to politicians while kids pay with their lives
Yeah. The japanese people were fed the, it is a death with honor crap that manipulators like Bin Ladden are still using on poor and uneducated Muslims today to get them to strap bombs on and kill whoever they can blow up.
I watched the whole thing and I cried the whole time.I pray to God every night that I could go back in time and have like 100000000 trillion yen and help the build there houses and factorys.
Nothing good comes from war, full stop. Seek other means. Suffering can be imposed by economic predation too. Just think about what you're doing, what's going on. Civialian populations usually have no quarrel with one another. It's the vested interests that whip things up
Why do govts. kill the innocent while the main criminals go free ?
Hirohito remained as Emperor, even though he ordered the attacks committed by the J. govt.
Heroes catch the bad guys.
Heroes do not hurt babies
War is not all about saving lives or even punishing criminals but it is mainly about the power agendas of chicken hawk politicians and the profit agenda of the military/industrial complex
It is evil to profit from the blood of the innocent and that is what war is
Atomic bombs need to be scrapped. Uranium 235 destructive power was shown at Hiroshima. That bomb is now lowly, in terms of power. The 50 Megaton bomb, which Russia tested 50 years ago. Cracked the earth's core. Little boy was barely close to a Megaton.
Nuclear bombs... Are becoming obsolete. Even more efficient atomic warheads are going inevitably going to be created. In terms of the amount of energy the bombs use from atoms.
The Hiroshima bomb, only used about 3-5% of the energy.
Truman knew about the effects of radiation up to 150 miles from explosion :
After the bomb was tested, the following report was sent to Gen Groves : "the dust outfall from the various portions of the cloud was potentially a very serious hazard over a band almost 30 miles wide extending almost 90 miles northeast of the site....... It is recommended that the site be expanded or a larger one, preferably with a radius of at least 150 miles without population".
1. Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the deaths were overwhelming civilian, not soldiers.
2. The idea that millions would have dies in an invasion is bull shit, every major US General from Eisenhower to Mac Arthur opposed the use of the bomb because Japan was effectively defeated.
Do a little bit of research instead of spewing out the official party lines
If saving lives is what is important to the US govt, FDR could have easily ordered a cease fire at least by 8/44 and thus preventing Japan from giving concessions to Stalin and preventing communism expanding in Asia.
But FDR was not interested in either curbing communism or saving the lives of thousands of US soldiers, thousands of US/Allied POWs or the lives of hundreds of thousands of J. children.
All wars can be prevented but the profit agendas of govts/MIC make war inevitable
As early as the summer of 44. the US govt already knew that Japan was defeated and that is why the US was asking for unconditional surrender which it never asked of either N. Vietnam or N. Korea. Tojo's resignation and Japan giving concessions to Stalin should have made FDR co-opt Hirohito on the side of the US instead of allowing communism to expand.
But FDR did not care about the lives of US soldiers, US/Allied POWs in J. and the lives of hundreds of thousands of J. children
Japan's war aims were limited to China/Korea until the allies started instigating Japan through supporting the Chinese military, embargoes and freezing of Japanese assets.
Would the US have done nothing if Japan started supporting the insurgency in the Phillipines, froze US assets, encouraged other countries to stop selling oil to the US ?
US instigation policies is what made the J. govt attack the US military power in the Pacific and Japan had no intention of occupying Hawaii
I want you to think about all the young men and women who were trapped in the USS Arizona for days and died of starvation/drowning. The atomic bomb was a terrible thing, but we had to drop a second one before they finally got the clue...what if we would have invaded or some decision along that line, would it have been ten fold the number of lives than the atomic bomb was? I do believe the atomic bomb was necessary but a major factor lies in the fact that we had to drop two.
The inmense majority of the victims were innocent civilians that didn't have any sort of political, nor militar power. It was a gruesome, despicable act of barbarity that should never happen again.
The nukes aren't debatable... they're an outright monstrosity.
War is not all about saving lives or prosecuting criminals.
War is mostly about power and money and that is why the US govt can accept a cease fire from N. Korea and N. Vietnam even though both govts. committed atrocities
Why terrorize a weak Japan ? because that is one way chicken hawk politicians get re-elected and maximize profits of reconstruction companies and the corrupt military/industrial complex.
War kills the innocent always and yet politicians do not care
Why are all the comments here so political. She is trying to raise awareness of her experience with the bomb so that NO ONE ever uses it again. Not Japan, not America, and not ANYWHERE. She isn't trying to pass judgement on America.
lovedandlucy 3 weeks ago
There was no need for the 2nd bomb, the 1st one yes, the 2nd one no, that was an atrocity no-one can deny that surely ? Plus a lot of it was just the Yanks showing the Russians what power they had, all in all I mournfully agree with the 1st bomb, as they were not gonna surrender, but nah, for me the 2nd one was not really needed.
And i say all this as a relative of somone who suffered terribly at the hands of the Japs in a POW camp.
DeejayDREAM 4 months ago
@DeejayDREAM No they were not, that's US bull.
"Were the atomic bombings militarily necessary? By any rational yardstick, they were not. Japan already had been defeated militarily by June 1945. Almost nothing was left of the once mighty Imperial Navy, and Japan's air force had been all but totally destroyed. Against only token opposition, American war planes ranged at will over the country, and US bombers rained down devastation on her cities, steadily reducing them to rubble."
BeardedBill86 1 month ago
eanielsen123, war has never solved anything. I am against killing your way to happiness because it doesn't work, all it does is cause death and suffering and destruction and it is an obscenity. Nobody deserves to get nuked, period. What an idiotic statement. You think they deserve it because YOU say so? Well who the hell are you? This world would be much better off if we learned how to solve problems without violence. If you have a problem with that then you're sick inside.
palcatt 5 months ago
@palcatt Of course the world would be a better place if we all held hands and sang kumbaya together. That would be great. But the world isn't like that and The Germans and the Japanessee in the 30's certainly weren't like that when they were violently and forcefully taking over countries to expand their empires. And let's remember, we wouldn't have got involved if the Japanesse didn't strike us first.
practicalpurpose 3 months ago
@wonderwoman12ish Except those who take the victory and make the enemy surrender, and to achieve the goal at hand, so people still win in war
DEVGRUxDELTA 6 months ago
wow. its a bloody mess and terrible waste those a bombs made
BrownskinHaole 6 months ago
What does that have to do with anything? So you think that anybody that supports their government deserves to die? What their supposed feelings about Pearl Harbor were are irrelevant. Completely. Their feelings don't make them deserving of getting nuked. Pearl Harbor like Hiroshima could have been prevented by the US govt. Neither were their fault.
palcatt 7 months ago
@palcatt Actually if the Japanese didnt piss of everyone literally the bomb probably wouldnt have been dropped. Just sayin'
DarPower1 6 months ago
@palcatt Do you listen to yourself? Fucking idiot. Japanese deserved what they got. Unit 731, Comfort Women, bio chem weapons used on Chinese. You are fucking trash. Nobody gives a shit about the victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Chernobyl was a disaster. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were well justified.
eanielsen123 5 months ago
One thought that comes to mind is that these two women are anti war or at least anti nuclear weapons. I wonder if they were among the crowds that cheered the sucessful bombing of Pearl Harbor, or tried to stop the Japanese government's war of agression. I wonder what they think of the biological and chemical weapons used against Chinese civillians by the IJA?
MrMike3865 7 months ago
@MrMike3865 Did you not pay attention to the beginning of this? In clear english you were told that they were only children at that time. A child doesn't understand what things like this mean... If they're cheering then they're only doing what everyone else is. They don't deserve to suffer the consequences of something that they're GOVERNMENT did.
lovedandlucy 3 weeks ago
@lovedandlucy Civillians DO suffer consequences of the bad things their government does whether they deserve it or not! Especially when that government refuses to surrender in order to "save face" and chooses to continue the war, without even caring about the suffering of their own people.
MrMike3865 3 weeks ago
@MrMike3865 You're kinda furthering my own point. I understand that, and made no argument against it. My argument is simply that they do not deserve to, and that's the point of this video.
lovedandlucy 3 weeks ago
The Japanese were horrible raping and killing civilians. They started the war by bombing Pearl Harbor. Flyers dropped warning. We used it on one city. They refused to surrender. We dropped a second they decided to surrender. While horrible, it saved many lives and did end an awful war. We would have killed more people by starvation and bloodshed by invasion. All targets were of military importance. We helped to rebuild their country. We have maintained a friendship with the country
Naterz100 8 months ago
@Naterz100 this was 10 commens condenced for space. This was horrible. However the other choices were worse. we get rid of the bomb today we will be the next targets of the bomb.
Naterz100 8 months ago
@Naterz100 you said that they raped and killed civilians right? So why in the hell would we KILL the same civilians that you speak of...think about it man. Get all of your facts about these events. 120, 000 people died instantly with both of cities combined. 100,000+ people in a matter of seconds, just completely decimated? 100,000 people, what if one of those children killed found the cure for AIDS or Cancer. Don't try to make it seem as if it was necessary.
DocHavoc0512 8 months ago
@DocHavoc0512 Millions would have died with a blocaid and invasion. maybe one of them would have found the cure for aids. But I guess starvation and mass blood shed as the God/man would have every man woman and child fight to the death . we ended it saved lives on both sides. was it a wonderful thin NO war never is.
Naterz100 8 months ago
@Naterz100 furthermore look intoi the batton death marches and the other horible action from Japans troops while in war. Ask an american POW how well they were treated. the list is too long to cover here. Truth is we used it we ended a war years sooner than if we had not. saved lives on both sides. Again this isnt cause to party in the streets people died . when wars are fought with handinf out flowers tell me how bad it is. they started it we finished it. end of story.
Naterz100 8 months ago
@Naterz100 I understand some things are unpreventable, but we could have prevented dropping the bombs. We basically commited genocide on every civilian that was killed. Genocide is much worse than trying to get the Japanese army to surrender by invasion. We intentionally killed those people any way you look at it, we were trying to prove to the Russians that we were superior and did not need their help in the invasion of Japan.
DocHavoc0512 8 months ago
@DocHavoc0512 I understand you point. However, we would have killed many more on both sides. we would have put up a blockaid and starved the whole country not just 2 cities. then in the invasion we would have killed more and we would have lost more. this is the truth. they were not going to surrender with terms agreeable to the US, As it is the US was softer than they would have been on the original terms. I know we droped flyers and warned them we had it before they were dropped.
Naterz100 8 months ago
@Naterz100 yeah i just think it's messed up how all of those innocent people would have had to suffer. It just doesn't sit well with me, they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. That's no reason for them to have been punished/killed
DocHavoc0512 8 months ago
the a bomb should have never existed
Dudeman162 8 months ago
I've mentioned the lynching of blacks whom they had previously enslaved, the medical experiments on the disabled, the witchunts they conducted on innocent gays and eastern europeans, and the bombing tests on innocent micronesians that did AFTER Hiroshima...its not really that far a stretch that they would carry out mass murder of civilians if they were put under pressure. It was an easy way out of a situation they didnt have the depth to handle, and the people in charge didnt really care less.
RivJohnson101 9 months ago
There is no doubt that a united allies attack would have crippled Japan, and they would have surrended against such odds. They arent stupid.
America simply chose the easy way out, and however you look at it, it DEFINITELY WAS MASS MURDER.Today it sounds multi-massively terrible, but from a country still lynched blacks and experimented on the disabled, its not far out of character for that time period of the USA to take the easy way out rather than the moral one.
RivJohnson101 9 months ago
I think someone has to admit that both the decision to A-bomb civilians in Japan, or to not do so, were both horribly bad decisions. And yes, there should have been more effort to end things in another way, of course there should have been. Imagine if the atom bomb was dropped on your grandparents by Hitler, well you might not be here to offer any opinion. ANd HItler wouldnt have stopped with 1 or 2 bombs!
Theres no good decisions when it comes to such war scenarios.
RivJohnson101 9 months ago
US won the war in all phases. Blame the fanatical Japanese military leaders that were more than willing to fight until there was no one left. They were willing the sacrifice the entire population. Would standard bombing be more "moral" to you? Should we have killed them that way? This is your blatant left wing anti American communists here @ work at our universities.There is no controversy . It's your Communist party USA @ work and in full display.I offer NO appologies.It was total war and we 1
thekux 9 months ago
@Coolbeanzow 1st- japan didn't need to start a war. 2nd- Those American military people were sleeping when they were attacked. wow, how brave of the "honorable" japanese. 3rd- The j- civilians were in FACT trained by their leaders to fight and kill against the would be Allied invasion. They already did so on Okinawa. Would you of rather seen Okinawa x 10? The j-civs were in FACT soldiers.
howiseethings 10 months ago
CHRIST !!! Is this BORING or what ??? Could someone (who speaks 3rd-World "CHINK") plz translate back to her that no-one gives a flying fuck about the ENDLESSLY LOOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGG story about her brother;s / sister's / aunt's /uncle's *WHATEVERRRRRRRRR" personal stories ... we JUST want to hear about her experiences' with the Bomb that day .... STOP BORING us all this "personal" crap !!!!
Fratboy8212 11 months ago
IT STOPPED AT 36:10! it was getting to the part i wanted to hear! :(
TheWierd2 11 months ago
omg people.... just watch the video, leave your opinion, and stop criticizing people for leaving THEIR opinions... no one really cares what someone on the internet things of what they're saying... honestly... get a life.
thatweirdchick69 1 year ago
「Barefoot gen」please read it.the story is based writer of barefootgen keiji nakazawa's true experienses. He is 71 years old now. he keep on telling us that terribly of atomicboms now too.this manga isn't for plotect Japan , able to know Japan and America's fact about Hiroshima atmicboms in those days. and Japan's did things in Asia too.There are 8 language trancelate version , now on sell in US from 2009. already,somecountrys a few library have barefootgen. please.
mi622na 1 year ago
@mi622na I watched and cried and im only 14
dreamrealm3 1 year ago
@dreamrealm3 Do you also cry for the Allied civilians who were interned by the japanese? They were enslaved, beaten, tortured, raped, and murdered for absolutely no reason. Do you cry for them too or is this a one way street with you?
howiseethings 1 year ago 2
@howiseethings I cry for neither side but I feel sorrow, and I can promise you no matter what they did it's something the USA shouldn't have done.
"Be careful when fighting monsters lest you become one."
gogman25 10 months ago
@gogman25 The Allies shouldn't have stopped a long and bloody war? You prefer to have the fighting go on for a much longer period of time in which most likely many millions more would have died terrible and gruesome deaths? You are freaky.
howiseethings 10 months ago 2
@howiseethings I find it freaky how you deem it acceptable to murder 250,000 civilians, wound and deform thousands more and make it so the bomb is still affecting those alive and being born today, those weren't those in the armed forces you butchered, they were women and children.
You are freaky.
Oh, and don't say it was the Allies because many objected to TESTING a weapon like this on civilians, say the Americans or the USA.
gogman25 10 months ago
@gogman25 Wow, are you ignorant or what? Check out the MAUD PROJECT. It was the British atomic project even before the U.S. got started. As a matter of fact you limeys had such a head start on nuclear weaponry it made the U.S. project look like child's play. Churchill was obsessed by this weapon. He made damn sure it be used. Besides the j-civs were trained to fight and kill the would be ALLIED invasion. They were in FACT soldiers. BTW the concentration camp was invented by you pommes.
howiseethings 10 months ago
@howiseethings Except our concentration camps were nothing like German concentration camps if that's what you are implying you stuck up, obese, ignorant son of a bitch.
The fact is the British still widely object to the use of the atomic bomb, and here's another fact... ALOT OF OUR CIVILIANS WERE TRAINED TO FIGHT A WOULD BE AXIS invasion. Fucking clown.
gogman25 10 months ago
@gogman25 Speaking of ignorant and blatantly prejudice....take a look in the mirror. Oh no, your concentration camps were symbols of a lovely vacation on the beach. Fucks sakes you fucking pommes with your severely twisted false positive image of the "good empire" (eyes rolling). The fact A LOT of everybody from around the world objects the use of the bomb.......duh.
Bottom line limey boy, j-civs were trained to fight and kill the would be Allied invasion. Get peeved at the j-govt for that.
howiseethings 10 months ago
@howiseethings I love how you have turned this into a an argument.
I never said the Empire was good (although it has helped alot of countries in the long term) and for your information WW2 concentration camps were less like concentration camps and more like The Naughty Juniors camp.
gogman25 10 months ago
@gogman25 Hypocrite much? Argument? Take a look in the mirror again. Besides you invented concentration camps well before WWII and calling them The Naughty Juniors camp is an exercise in denial.
howiseethings 10 months ago
@howiseethings I never said anything about inventing them during WW2, but WW2 POW camps were significantly nicer than them getting frozen shitless in Russia.
gogman25 10 months ago
@gogman25
Reading comprehension problem much? You Brits invented concentration camps WELL BEFORE WWII, but they weren't as bad as POW camps? Really?! Ask, the Africans. You will get a DRASTICALLY different answer.
howiseethings 10 months ago
@howiseethings I thought we were talking about WW2, dumbass.
gogman25 10 months ago
@gogman25 The BRITISH MAUD Project (building an ATOMIC BOMB) was quite advanced for its time it was far more advanced than the Manhattan Project.
Here's a little fun fact that you probably DIDN'T study in pomme school. When Roosevelt died CHURCHILL was actually in charge of the atomic bomb.Truman didn't even know about it until he became president. Churchill was hell bent on using it. He first wanted to get the Germans but they wisely surrendered.The js, well their blind pride makes them dumb.
howiseethings 10 months ago
@howiseethings And now you sway away from the subject I just owned you in. Good game.
gogman25 10 months ago
@gogman25 ? You were whining incessantly about the U.S. about one thing or another I brought up the fact about BRITAIN'S MAUD PROJECT and the fact that BRITAIN started the idea of the CONCENTRATION CAMP and somehow in your little mind these things are not related to WWII? That's funny, because without BRITISH help with the atomic bomb DURING WWII the final product would have been delayed and or not developed, and clearly the concentration camps are a byproduct of your invention. Game on, mate.
howiseethings 10 months ago
@howiseethings The original subject was the dropping of the atomic bomb, something you've ignored.
gogman25 10 months ago
@gogman25 You are so funny.Just before you were whinging about keeping the subject on WWII and so the subject has been on WWII but now you want to shift the topic cuz the heat is getting too hot.OK,so the dropping of the bomb STILL involved the U.K. cuz Churchill was a HUGE proponent of using it and the UK had a spotter plane virtually alongside the Enola Gay with Churchill's personal advisor watching the whole time, but don't worry your pomme head you didn't pull the trigger, you just helped.
howiseethings 10 months ago
@howiseethings I love how you turned this into an insult match "pomme head".
Even if we did have involvement, it was still the Americans who held the majority and you'll find that if you want to be serious then you've got to stop using correct grammar and then using abbreviations, it's like you're trying to act high and mighty.
If you hate us so damn much as to use insults im confused as to whether you thought the dropping of the bombs was right or wrong.
gogman25 10 months ago
@gogman25 (1)Your first comment; "I cry for neither side but I feel sorrow, and I can promise you no matter what they did it's something the USA shouldn't have done.
"Be careful when fighting monsters lest you become one.""
Since the U.S. and the U.K. have had past wars because of U.K. aggression (oops this isn't about WWII) you just may be right or maybe NOT. Gosh golly gee limey boy do you think that if the U.S. wasn't attacked by japan we wouldn't be talking about this? Duh.
howiseethings 10 months ago
@gogman25 My 1st reply to your 1st comment; "The Allies shouldn't have stopped a long and bloody war? You prefer to have the fighting go on for a much longer period of time in which most likely many millions more would have died terrible and gruesome deaths? You are freaky." And then your comment to that was about 250,00 civilian deaths. How WRONG you are. Those "civilians" were in FACT trained by the j-govt to fight and kill the would be Allied invasion. They were in FACT soldiers.
howiseethings 10 months ago
@gogman25 (3) And I love this lame comment, ".. it was still the Americans who held the majority..". My eyes are rolling. You BLATANTLY ignore that you pommes had a very good head start on your own NUKE PROJECT called MAUD.You will also find that scientists from around world had a huge helping hand in the Manhattan Project. Ah yes, but you Brits have come to terms with your past haven't you? Pfft, give me a break. Your self anointed moralistic preaching is laughably hypocritical. Cologne anyone?
howiseethings 10 months ago
I feel sad to see on this boards arguing which side was more justified for violence. The issue here of society is someone always tried to feel superior of one another, not sharing everyone can have the right to live well.
tokyopiglet 1 year ago
@tokyopiglet Well, who was justified for Violence, that a very simple question, the party that was defending itself was justified to use any amount of force that was necessary to stop the agression and force a surrender of the aggressor. In this case the Axis powers were the agressors while the Allied powers were the defensive party. In war there is no such thing as resonable force, in other words "Total War brings Total Force".
Paladin601 1 year ago
What these people don't tell you is that they were part of the japanese civilian militia who were trained to fight and kill the would be Allied invasion.
howiseethings 1 year ago
Americans are the filthiest most sickening Animals I have ever seen. The shit that they sit down and think of is sickening, truly sickening. 911 was an Inside Job/ Pearl Harbor was a fucking ship and area. Hiroshima was a City and so was Nagasaki... and they Destroyed them all. I just got back from Japan, and looking at some of the Children there, they are still struggling from it. Having bone problems. And they way they walk. Fucked up. I live in America. But Fuck this shit, Nosey Motherfuckers
Macmittens411 1 year ago
@Macmittens411 OMG you are so fucking FULL OF SHIT!
howiseethings 1 year ago
@howiseethings shut the fuck up you trailer trash.
Macmittens411 1 year ago
@Macmittens411 Your just upset because I caught you in a bold faced lie. You claim with your own prejudice that the kids in hiro have health issue. What a crock of shit. I've been to those cities and the kids in those cities don't have any more health issues than any other kid in the rest of the world. Why doesn't anyone complain about the nuclear power plant accidents that happen in japan. After all there are 59 nuclear power plants in japan and they have accidents from time to time.
howiseethings 1 year ago
@howiseethings I dont know what Lie I was telling, I have another page on youtube, but I have to be careful about Idoits like you. I have everything im talking about on tape. Older people have health problems from it u fool. I KNOW. I dont gotta prove nothing to u. And Im goin back again next year, tons of friend and girls thier so suck my c*ck. I didnt go their to do research I went to have fun and shoot a Doc. Im telling u what It looked like and What older people told me. Fuck off.
Macmittens411 1 year ago
@Macmittens411 wow. Rambling on like a moron who is caught in a lie. Wow. what are the odds of a moronic liar? A horrible tragedy for your family. I send my condolences to your parents. Um, I live in japan. Have been living here for 23 years. hiro is a thriving modern metropolis with no more problems than any other thriving modern metropolis in the world.I suggest you do your next "Doc" around the nuclear power plants in japan & in particular the ones which had accidents.That'll keep you honest.
howiseethings 1 year ago
@howiseethings LOL... anybody notice this troll?? Check this fools comments on youtube. He's a Japan nut, yes "howiseethings" is a weirdo Japan fanatic. Oh & get this now this idiot is claiming he LIVES in Japan. And his profile still says United States... mmh. it doesnt mean a thing to me. Ure 45 years old u acting like 12. Damn shame. And ure pretty silly I never said I went to Hiroshima u ignorant person. Think what u want u dont know me. ure words dont affect me. The End. (:
Macmittens411 1 year ago
@Macmittens411 boring.
howiseethings 1 year ago
@howiseethings Hahaha. Way to bring down the troll, eh?
lovedandlucy 3 weeks ago
@Macmittens411 Hahaha. Way to bring down the troll, eh?
lovedandlucy 3 weeks ago
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@Macmittens411 Are you unaware that Hiroshima was the HQ of the J 2nd Area Army under Field Marshal Hata? 43,000 J troops were in the city & 20k-30k died in the bombing.
kentamitchell 1 year ago
There seems to be more comments that say what SHOULD have or COULD have been. Is it possible that we (regardless of our take on the morality of this event) understand how to PREVENT this from ever happening? Perhaps that means, subduing the ego (shown by Japan's resistance to back down, as well as America's unwillingness to be held down)...
This requires both sides to understand the horrific consequences of warfare (spoken in this video) -- and take all genuine steps necessary to stop it.
msvec 1 year ago
they were offered many times to surrender and were told what was going to happen but they keep attacking and killing our children and service men and women.The japan military vowed to never stop and would not have.United States dropped 2 bombs and Japan stopped.They should be thankful that the United States did not drop these bombs on Tokyo,which they could of did.
valkour22 1 year ago
i would like to know why the fact her people and relatives attacked and killed many people here is not addressed? all i ever hear is what united states did and how horrible an act we did.They attacked and killed americans and took their lives while we were not even at war with them.If they have any issues it should be address to their country and their actions which cause our counter.These people act like their country was innocent,which is not true.They attack us!!
valkour22 1 year ago
Any country that created an atomic bomb is a threat to this world, the mere existence of such bombs is sickening. So can you imagine how sick are the people who make them?
To achieve real world peace isn't through fighting "terrorism", there are far more important matters that most people are blinded from seeing due to the "war against terror" bullshit.
So how is Iraq or Afghanistan a threat to the world? The real threat is the big nations like the US and Russia. Wake up if you didnt know that.
darealssj 1 year ago
Please focus on the message. What happened was and is horrible, and we should all work to make sure it never happens again.
sengrahammcgrath 1 year ago
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They were given fair warning and didnt heed it . No doubt they would have used it on us if the had the resources.
The Japanese cry over the loss of their civillians, yet the combined total of deaths at Hiroshima and Nagasaki is small compared to the amounts of innocent civillians that they targeted.And they ruthlessly slaughtered clearly thier crimes against humanity lest they forget thier actions wanting to hold the usa for ours.
silentfades 1 year ago
Many of Hibakusya had experienced harsy discrimination for employment and marriage in Japan. For women, it was a lot more difficult to marry since the future huband re-consider of theri fertility. I heard some women killed themrselve due to those severe discrimination. and also they do not receive enough compensation fee from government to live comfortably due to very limited social policies.
tokyopiglet 1 year ago
@tokyopiglet Discrimination of any kind in japan is rampant. Nothing new. The js, in fact, are a very prejudiced people. Fact.
howiseethings 1 year ago
The bombing was tragic .. but it DID save american lives my father included .. hence i wouldnt be here if we had to invade the japan mainland.. the Japanese were ruthless killers all over the world during WWII.. and this woman favored the leaders of her land who killed innocent people in china,korea and philippines... in war American lives are most important ...yes its a tragedy that the bomb was dropped ...people of the world ... be careful of those you choose to lead !
funk356 1 year ago
Ha.. Im A German. We Didn't DO Anything Bad
towas22 1 year ago
We all look at the suffering of the Japanese, not the brutal side of what they did.
RLewisH 1 year ago
let sink the fucking jap island, if japanese doesn't exist the war would ended the moment german surrender.
benitojuarez1234 1 year ago
No one seems to remember that without the dropping of the A-Bombs, the war probably would've raged on for quite longer, costing more innocent lives on all sides then the people killed by the bombs themselves. Sure, the loss of innocents was regrettable, but in the end, it saved lives. Shock and awe.
smage34 1 year ago
@smage34 Shock and awe would have worked if it was dropped 3km from the shore.
PonThePony 1 year ago
are you all fuckin dumb, they fucked the US up i dont care what you say they deserved it.
3Pachuco0Samurai3 1 year ago
idiot slaughtering of innocent people?! mankind's greatest flaw
ninjatomaster 1 year ago
americans can be nazis too
janmendivil9 1 year ago
What Truman did, was inhumane.
But, Wherever War lurkes, Innocent lives will be lost.
Animetobi 1 year ago
ladyxkikyou is an idiot. It was a WAR and the bomb saved the lives of millions of Japanese(and Americans).
johndough08g 1 year ago
@johndough08g i agree it was not to kill it was to save people
Xprostyles 1 year ago
The truly horrifying notion is that it is an inevitability, that this will not have been the last nuclear device used in a war. We have them. It is, regrettably, human nature to eventually utilize power when it is available. As we speak, several nations race to develop their own weapons. Some of them without question intend to use them. Hiroshima was an inexcusable tragedy.
sonbuhitsunei 1 year ago
I cant imagine what this would be like...theres no honor in war anymore...we cant fight any country that has nukes with honor because it just comes down to these bombs...the Cold War proves that statement. We need to get rid of the science that teaches people how to create these...make the science behind them and the use absolutely illegal...we dont need them they are only here so if we need to destroy the world around us we can do so.
livetoride71 1 year ago
Ok Shepherd, but there were innocent civilians there. If I were president at the time, I wouldve leveled a military base or two first
Bshelton18 2 years ago
FYI, Hiroshima was the headquarters of the 2nd Area Army, under Field Marshal Hata. 43,000 J soldiers were in the city and 20k-30k died in the bombing.
kentamitchell 2 years ago
This is actually worse than the numerous masssacres the Japanese conducted in territories they controlled, Pearl Harbor, Bataan? They tortured our prisoners, starved people under their rule, and conducted chemical warfare experiments on their own people, and they didn't deserve this? Was this a horrible event? Of course it was, but it actually isnt worse than the combined atrocites committed by the Japanese, most of which have gone forgotten.
Shepherd492 2 years ago
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fuck america and the jews controling them, the only countries starting wars today while nobody says a thing
birokoilias 2 years ago
There are conflicts all over the world started by all different kinds of people. Pull your head out of your arse mate.
icelandisacoolplace 2 years ago
on ww2 japanese soldier rape million of filipina on phllipines! so they deserve it!
SaNtOL113 2 years ago
stfu
soccerboymex 2 years ago
I'm sure your country has rapists and criminals too. Would you be feeling the same way if another country decided to commit mass genocide of YOUR race because of the atrocities committed by your own government?
ladyxkikyou 2 years ago
The Atomic bombs were terrible; they ere NOT genocide. If the US had wanted to commit genocide, we could have put an indefinite blockade until millions of Japanese civilians starved.
Truman's other, nonatomic choices were FAR worse.
kentamitchell 2 years ago
Making excuses now? Classy.
ladyxkikyou 2 years ago
Excuses? HELL, NO! Try actually looking at Truman's other alternatives:
1. Compromise peace? J militarists retain power; start planning Pacific War II
2. Invasion? S. Kyushu alone would've been Okinawa x5
3. Indefinite blockade? How many MILLIONS of J civilians would've died before Hirohito gave the order to surrender?
Secretary of War Stimson was 100% correct when he said the atomic bombs were "our least abhorrent choice"
kentamitchell 2 years ago
When General MacArthur got to Japan in late 8/45, he found the country as on the verge of famine. He cabled DC "Send me food or send me bullets" Only the prompt shipment of >500,000 tons of US grain averted mass starvation.
It as only due to the sudden end of the war that MILLIONS of J civilians and 100,000 Allied POWs- lived- starving and massacring POWs was Standard Operating Procedure for the Japanese.
kentamitchell 2 years ago
So translation: all things considered, it was way better to to expose the already weakened Japanese citizens to atomic radiation, in which radioisotope decay causes molecular structure to fall apart with the emitting of energy? A disruption to cell and protein structure causes mutations in the way that DNA replicates itself, which ultimately leads to long-term health problems.
Sorry mate. No matter which way you try and look at it, there IS no justifying the use of a biological weapon.
ladyxkikyou 2 years ago
Biological? No. Atomic.
Ironically enough, my godfather, a retired DVM who is now past 90 was working on bioweapons at a base in the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah. Had the war continued to the end of '45, we would've used them and the results for Japan would've been catastrophic.
The justification for the A bombs was ending the war rapidly- with less loss of life than any other alternative
PS have you *ever* talked to a vet of the Pacific War?
kentamitchell 2 years ago
Atoms are a significant and important part of biology, as atoms are the reason for the existence of cellular organisms in the first place. Without them, you or anything else in this planet would not exist.
The atomic bomb used atomic energy to break apart molecular structure. As a result of the exposure to radioisotope decay, many hibakusha are still at high risk for cancers and other health problems that result from mutations caused by a disruption in DNA replication.
ladyxkikyou 2 years ago
Some hibakusha are still alive- 64 years after the bombing. Without the bombs, most of them, and MILLIONS of others- mostly *children- ould have been died a horrible slow death from starvation, more than half a century ago.
kentamitchell 2 years ago
sorry, mate, you can't do basic math.
FAR better than 100k-200k die in H&N, than 100,000 Allied POWs 100,000 Allied servicemen >500,000 J mil and MILLIONS of J civ die from an invasion and starvation.
kentamitchell 2 years ago
And you my dear friend, don't know shit about biology or how it works for that matter if you thought atoms had nothing to do with biology. :)
If were in their situation and I had to choose between being nuked and starving to death, I much prefer the latter. Yes it would be slow and miserable, but atleast I wouldn't be dying from radiation poisoning in addition to having my eyes hanging from their sockets and serious burns. To me, that is much worse than starving or being shot at.
ladyxkikyou 2 years ago
First of, It was an Atomic Bomb, not a Nuclear Missile. You wouldn't Die of Radiation poisoning, You would die of Nerve-Shock and Brain Recontraction.- You would have Serious Burns, and you would probably die, unknowingly within the hour.
CGSOfficial 1 year ago
One last thing, there is alot more to the decision to use the atomic bomb than what you mentioned. It was also a race between other power-hungry nations, such as Germany who was among the first to experiment with atomic fission to use them.
The US concluded that they must not be the first to use an atomic weapon, so the US used it first with Japan as the target. It was also used as a demonstration to Japan that the US had the power to annihilate an entire empire if they refused to surrender.
ladyxkikyou 2 years ago
"The US had the power to annihilate an entire empire if they refused to surrender"
EXACTLY!!!
The A bombs were the ONLY thing that prevented the Japanese militarists from staging a horrible campaign in the Home Islands that would've cost MILLIONS of lives
kentamitchell 2 years ago
Again you are making excuses to justify the erroneous use of a biological weapon for reasons that extended far beyond the need to end the war quickly.
NOTHING justifies using a powerful weapon such as the a-bomb because there were other more destructive weapons in the making. Instead that just reinforces the appalling and atrocious nature of the decision to use it.
ladyxkikyou 2 years ago 2
Excuses? NOT HARDLY!
For Truman NOT to have used the the bombs would have been inexcuseable.
To quote a great book (which I'm sure you never have and never will read- William Manchester's "Goodbye, Darkness" (Manchester was a USMC sergeant whose regiment fought on Okinawa, and suffered 81% casualties): "Thank God for the Atomic bombs"
kentamitchell 2 years ago
To quote a hibakusha whom I very much agree with:
"As a survivor, I think it is unacceptable to justify any use of nuclear weapons. We must free ourselves from the guilt and blame created by our past indiscretions so that we can approach future conflicts responsibly and ethically. Who can say with certainty that there never will be another 9/11 and that the United States won't be tempted to use nuclear weapons again?"
ladyxkikyou 2 years ago
Cont.
It is very convenient to say the atom bomb is justifiable when it isn't you who is being affected by it. Put yourself in THEIR place and picture experiencing having your family and friends nuked, and I'm almost certain you would feel quite differently about the situation.
ladyxkikyou 2 years ago 2
@ladyxkikyou More people would have died if they hadn't used it
jacklint2 1 year ago
@ladyxkikyou you're my hero
goe5 1 year ago
What would Japan do if they got an a-bomb in 1945?
Would they hesitate before dropping it? Would these ladies dress up and join the cherring crowd like they did for the fall of nanjing?
I am not against any country, but it just sounds rediculous to blame weapons, or some individuals for the war. It is the entire human beings that should be responsible for our own crimes and suffering.
felixli77 2 years ago
verey moving and interesting. very good.
avvocatogorgia 2 years ago
why is it that the US govt goes to war with numerous countries and then makes them into allies ?
If the enemy is so bad, how come the US govt eventually makes them allies ?
Do we really need a war to make allies out of enemies ?
If enemies are capable of being allies in the end, why not make peace without war.
It shows that the MIC/politicians should not make business out of war because the people of all nations are peace loving and the enemy leaders can be co-opted
brian464 2 years ago
Nice try on the spin japanesebrian.
howiseethings 2 years ago
its not about JAPAN or the USA OR ANY CONTRY FOR THAT MATTER it is much much bigger then that its about being a HUMAN BEING CAN YOU COMPREHEND THAT OPEN YOUR CLOSED MINDS WE ALL HAVE TO SHARE THIS PLANET
DoubleR2007 2 years ago
Jap killed more than 25 miillion innocents.
Hiroshima is NOTHING comparing with what Jap had done !
Thank USA !!!
clavie05 2 years ago
American killed more than 100 million innocents
Hiroshima is Nothing comparing with what American had done !
Thank America !!!
SHSH1212 2 years ago
Ok, at least we have something in common : thank USA :)
clavie05 2 years ago
America killed 100 million innocents, where did that number come from? Don't just make crap up for emotion.
fmtrainer 2 years ago
I pulled it out of my ass like the guy above me did.
SHSH1212 2 years ago
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You are an asshole.
OntarioJack 2 years ago
I'm not an American. I am Canadian so I just want to say that we were involved in the Manhattan Project and we also had an atomic weapon production facility in Ontario.
I am very proud that our government took part in defeating brutal japanese fascism.
OntarioJack 2 years ago
I am Belgian and my country largely supplied the uranium for Little boy.
I'm ashamed about the accessoriness of my country and people with a mindset perverse enough to try and justify atomic attacks.
Bazompora 2 years ago
Which were worse japanesebelgian? Conventional bombing over days, weeks, months in which hundreds of thousands of people were killed or one atomic bomb in one instant with an actual less number of people killed? What's the difference? I do not understand your mindset and some people like you. You get so incredibly, emotionally, rhetorically upset over this one occurrence and yet you say nothing about other happenings. I am very glad my mind is not trapped like yours.
OntarioJack 2 years ago
"Japanesebelgian"? Whatever ... Americancanadian.
I never said conventional bombings wre not horrible; I find those inhuman too. But how can one not be upset when the scale of "civilian casualties" is being cranked up all the way to intentionally incinerating hundred thousands of civilians IN A SINGLE STRIKE.
Is your mind unable to grasp how insanely far this has devaluated human life?
I'm very saddened that my mind is trapped
... on your planet of the apes.
Bazompora 2 years ago
I cannot and do not understand your mindset. As I mentioned before what is the difference between conventional bombing which has a same death total, all depending on the severity of the bombing of a week vs. one atomic bomb? You get more upset over a plane crash than for example separate car crashes in different areas yet the death total is the same? Essentially this is what you are saying. This is illogical. It makes no difference. In the end the same amount of people have died.
OntarioJack 2 years ago
It makes a huge difference; more precisely, people are killing others on increasingly larger scale and there is less and less discriminating of military targets from civilians. The larger a weapon's individual scale of destruction, the more the civilian:military casualties balance leans to the civilian side.
A-bombs, cruise missiles, cluster bombs, uranium projectiles ... war has shifted to "accidentally" killing civilians in the hopes of having hostile targets caught in the blast radiuses.
Bazompora 2 years ago
You avoided my question. What is the difference between conventional bombing which has a same death total, all depending on the severity of the bombing of a week vs. one atomic bomb?
OntarioJack 2 years ago
I answered your question; perhaps you would do better to read my previous reply again with some attention.
But allow me to add to it:
• the larger the blast radius, the larger the portion of civilian deaths in comparison to military deaths
• conventional bombing leaves many a chance to still escape or take shelter, from the moment the first bomb drops
• conventional bombs don't poison surviving civilians, nor turn land into a nuclear hazard.
Catch my drift now?
Bazompora 2 years ago
I was talking about conv. bombs vs. atomic bombs back then, at that time. Certainly, today we have guided conv. weapons which is vastly different than yesteryear.
-There was no difference between conv. vs. atomic bomb back then. Ex: Hamburg; 2 days, 40,000 killed vs. Nagasaki; 1 day 40,000 killed.
-One can still escape an atomic bomb with proper air raid warning.
-Conv. can poison civs. *Poison gas*. Hiro and Naga are viable cities even shortly after the bombs.
OntarioJack 2 years ago
It s only way to make Jap agression serender !!!
clavie05 2 years ago
What these people don't tell you is how they, as civilians, were trained by their leaders to fight and kill the would be invaders. Essentially they were soldiers and soldiers with intent to fight and kill are targets. They japanese citizenry truly should be pissed off at their leaders for bringing it this far. In retrospect the japanese got off pretty easy because the Russians wanted pay back BIG time and would have ripped the japanese a real big wide new one. That's a fact.
howiseethings 2 years ago
how,
Dropping the A-bombs and fire bombing of Japan and burning alive hundreds of thousands of children, was an act of terror because Japan was already defeated by 8/44
War could have ended and saved lives if the US govt had accepted the Japanese govt's conditional surrender as early as 8/44,just as lives were saved when the US govt agreed on a cease fire from N, Vietnam and N. Korea
But war is about money to the MIC and power to politicians while kids pay with their lives
brian464 2 years ago
Yeah. The japanese people were fed the, it is a death with honor crap that manipulators like Bin Ladden are still using on poor and uneducated Muslims today to get them to strap bombs on and kill whoever they can blow up.
fmtrainer 2 years ago 2
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Sad but true.
OntarioJack 2 years ago
I watched the whole thing and I cried the whole time.I pray to God every night that I could go back in time and have like 100000000 trillion yen and help the build there houses and factorys.
ilovemommy2 2 years ago
The japanese got heaps of help after the war mate. Now dry your tears and tuck in your skirt.
aucknorthisl 2 years ago
Nothing good comes from war, full stop. Seek other means. Suffering can be imposed by economic predation too. Just think about what you're doing, what's going on. Civialian populations usually have no quarrel with one another. It's the vested interests that whip things up
cpswyl2 2 years ago
cps,
Why do govts. kill the innocent while the main criminals go free ?
Hirohito remained as Emperor, even though he ordered the attacks committed by the J. govt.
Heroes catch the bad guys.
Heroes do not hurt babies
War is not all about saving lives or even punishing criminals but it is mainly about the power agendas of chicken hawk politicians and the profit agenda of the military/industrial complex
It is evil to profit from the blood of the innocent and that is what war is
brian464 2 years ago
Atomic bombs need to be scrapped. Uranium 235 destructive power was shown at Hiroshima. That bomb is now lowly, in terms of power. The 50 Megaton bomb, which Russia tested 50 years ago. Cracked the earth's core. Little boy was barely close to a Megaton.
Nuclear bombs... Are becoming obsolete. Even more efficient atomic warheads are going inevitably going to be created. In terms of the amount of energy the bombs use from atoms.
The Hiroshima bomb, only used about 3-5% of the energy.
Bhinder14 2 years ago
Bhi,
Truman knew about the effects of radiation up to 150 miles from explosion :
After the bomb was tested, the following report was sent to Gen Groves : "the dust outfall from the various portions of the cloud was potentially a very serious hazard over a band almost 30 miles wide extending almost 90 miles northeast of the site....... It is recommended that the site be expanded or a larger one, preferably with a radius of at least 150 miles without population".
brian464 2 years ago
1. Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the deaths were overwhelming civilian, not soldiers.
2. The idea that millions would have dies in an invasion is bull shit, every major US General from Eisenhower to Mac Arthur opposed the use of the bomb because Japan was effectively defeated.
Do a little bit of research instead of spewing out the official party lines
Sammaelhain 2 years ago
Sam
If saving lives is what is important to the US govt, FDR could have easily ordered a cease fire at least by 8/44 and thus preventing Japan from giving concessions to Stalin and preventing communism expanding in Asia.
But FDR was not interested in either curbing communism or saving the lives of thousands of US soldiers, thousands of US/Allied POWs or the lives of hundreds of thousands of J. children.
All wars can be prevented but the profit agendas of govts/MIC make war inevitable
brian464 2 years ago
They always look serious in old pictures, and a good thing too..
JensDensen 2 years ago
Where would we all be if the bombs had not been dropped?
Like gene hackman said.. "Drop that fucker.. twice"
It ended the war, no doubt about it.
But it is a terrible weapon, and should never be used again.
flattabang 2 years ago
fla,
As early as the summer of 44. the US govt already knew that Japan was defeated and that is why the US was asking for unconditional surrender which it never asked of either N. Vietnam or N. Korea. Tojo's resignation and Japan giving concessions to Stalin should have made FDR co-opt Hirohito on the side of the US instead of allowing communism to expand.
But FDR did not care about the lives of US soldiers, US/Allied POWs in J. and the lives of hundreds of thousands of J. children
brian464 2 years ago
fla,
Japan's war aims were limited to China/Korea until the allies started instigating Japan through supporting the Chinese military, embargoes and freezing of Japanese assets.
Would the US have done nothing if Japan started supporting the insurgency in the Phillipines, froze US assets, encouraged other countries to stop selling oil to the US ?
US instigation policies is what made the J. govt attack the US military power in the Pacific and Japan had no intention of occupying Hawaii
brian464 2 years ago
I want you to think about all the young men and women who were trapped in the USS Arizona for days and died of starvation/drowning. The atomic bomb was a terrible thing, but we had to drop a second one before they finally got the clue...what if we would have invaded or some decision along that line, would it have been ten fold the number of lives than the atomic bomb was? I do believe the atomic bomb was necessary but a major factor lies in the fact that we had to drop two.
GrizzleY000 2 years ago
Gri,
But even Churchill said that demanding unconditional surrender will result in more lives lost as the J. Govt will fight to the death.
If FDR/HST truly cared about the lives of US soldiers, US/Allied POWs in J. and the lives of children
they would have called for a cease fire as early as 8/44 while the J. Govt was defeated and giving concessions to the communists.
FDR helped communism expand with his power agenda policies while the MIC "laughed all the way to the bank"
brian464 2 years ago
i think it's how you look at it.
From my perspective it's both ways.
If they hadn't dropped them more Americans would have died and to the american military they were more important than the Japanese.
But the other way you look at it is the destruction and pain that was caused was just unspeakable.
So the nukes are debatable
jonboycool 2 years ago
No matter how you look at it, it was a genocide.
The inmense majority of the victims were innocent civilians that didn't have any sort of political, nor militar power. It was a gruesome, despicable act of barbarity that should never happen again.
The nukes aren't debatable... they're an outright monstrosity.
Harazyn 2 years ago 12
har,
War is not all about saving lives or prosecuting criminals.
War is mostly about power and money and that is why the US govt can accept a cease fire from N. Korea and N. Vietnam even though both govts. committed atrocities
Why terrorize a weak Japan ? because that is one way chicken hawk politicians get re-elected and maximize profits of reconstruction companies and the corrupt military/industrial complex.
War kills the innocent always and yet politicians do not care
brian464 2 years ago
@Harazyn God bless you Harazyn,God bless you.
MBOYA22 1 year ago
@Harazyn we won lol
pull the stick out of ur ass japan shouldnt have fcked with us
asgarnon 1 year ago
@asgarnon ppl like u live in a box
sonamybaby102 1 year ago
@sonamybaby102 lol lets not flame, we won u lost
asgarnon 1 year ago