Took a beer with one ex-UQTR team member the other day. He told us the story of the event: Last minute fix before the comp, they added a bracket. When the new guy from the team put the suspension back on one of the rod-end (On both sides) wouldn't fit so instead of telling the guys the bracket wasn't working he grinded the rodends so he could mount it. They've missed it at bolt check and well you see the results, after some runs it failed miserably! Found a wheel in the bleachers!
Rubbish, it has nothing to do with stuff like loose nuts. the idea of the competition is not to build something conservatively, but to optimise the desing with regard to weight etc.
Under braking, a lot of suspension parts break each year.
Um, no, there are not a 'lot' of suspension failures each year. Engineering race cars may be about pushing the limits, but nothing good can be said about a design that fails, especially as easily as this one. This is a learning experience though.
ideally the car should disintegrate just as it crosses the finish line (a sudden catastrophic failure without any warning or loss of performance until the race is over).
anything less means that the car was over engineered and the added weight should have been used for ballast.
purely theoretical of course, assuming infinite funds and with no safety concerns
I just can't stop laughing about how funny that sounded... I'm a terrible person, I know it, but you gotta smile hearing engine rev, breaking steel, then chassis dragging ground.
Funny vid, hopefully nobody was hurt and it was ONLY a learning experience.
I take it that was a brake test... Yep, the rears locked...! We lost a LR wheel in testing in 2001, and spookily on our next car lose the same wheel in competition.
This happened to me after our event in 1999. I took the car out on the highway after coming back from Detroit and I lost one of the rear end lower A-Arm rod ends... Just snapped off at about 60mph. Luckly I just made a bunch of sparks dragging the muffler. Kinda scary though.
It was not a lug nut problem but more a low A-arm rod-end failure + a badly welded bracket. Interesting video but it was not a good moment for our team...
In all honesty, why even post this if half the video is a pretty grey tarmac?
NarKs 2 months ago
good camera work dickhead
8484dano 6 months ago 8
@8484dano Wow. You are classy!
bdcoller 6 months ago
LOL Oh engineers.....
redtop91 8 months ago
omg something interesting quick point the camera down!!!
keithyoung 1 year ago 5
"OH MY GOD A CRASH!" "i better point this at the ground." wtf camera man?
ryN45678 1 year ago 4
Took a beer with one ex-UQTR team member the other day. He told us the story of the event: Last minute fix before the comp, they added a bracket. When the new guy from the team put the suspension back on one of the rod-end (On both sides) wouldn't fit so instead of telling the guys the bracket wasn't working he grinded the rodends so he could mount it. They've missed it at bolt check and well you see the results, after some runs it failed miserably! Found a wheel in the bleachers!
ForGodSakePlease 1 year ago
ugh thats a horrible sound. Kissing away all that hard work. :(
Julian3190 1 year ago
The fact that both wheels/tires flew off simultaneously only helps proves that it wasn't a "lack of lug nut tension".. but rather suspension failure.
soupjr99 2 years ago
Or perhaps bad dimensioning or failure on the A-arms
gunnerkylling 1 year ago
HORRIBLE camera man
saturnv3 2 years ago 25
Worst EVER
wetmelon 2 years ago
@saturnv3 agreed.
05American 1 year ago
i cant believe any engineer would build something that would do that... even if it was loose lug nuts any engineer shouldnt have missed that
phil656565 2 years ago
Rubbish, it has nothing to do with stuff like loose nuts. the idea of the competition is not to build something conservatively, but to optimise the desing with regard to weight etc.
Under braking, a lot of suspension parts break each year.
mop65 2 years ago
and saftey should be first... putting your driver in danger like this is absolutley rediculous
phil656565 2 years ago
Um, no, there are not a 'lot' of suspension failures each year. Engineering race cars may be about pushing the limits, but nothing good can be said about a design that fails, especially as easily as this one. This is a learning experience though.
CPMaverick 2 years ago
@CPMaverick
it should never fail DURING the race.
ideally the car should disintegrate just as it crosses the finish line (a sudden catastrophic failure without any warning or loss of performance until the race is over).
anything less means that the car was over engineered and the added weight should have been used for ballast.
purely theoretical of course, assuming infinite funds and with no safety concerns
woodenclock2 1 year ago
Yeeeeeeeeeeah! From RaceUP team Italy
miky1988 2 years ago
you learn by your failures
certainly won't happen twice ;)
WoRtH2die4 2 years ago
FAIL!
dembkomj 3 years ago
tran!!
jhonnybob999 3 years ago
rod end in bending lol
AwesomeAlvin 3 years ago 5
Exactly, I'm doing it this year and our car from last year had REIB - oh look, there goes the front wheel under braking!
mop65 2 years ago
lol damn that's kinda funny.
laughsatposers 3 years ago
I just can't stop laughing about how funny that sounded... I'm a terrible person, I know it, but you gotta smile hearing engine rev, breaking steel, then chassis dragging ground.
Funny vid, hopefully nobody was hurt and it was ONLY a learning experience.
toctuning 3 years ago
I know, i am a horrible person; someone could have been seriously injured, and thats nothing to laugh about....
but i still cant stop giggling XD
skyseeker901 3 years ago
That's why this is a student engineering exercise.
PseudoScienceb20 3 years ago
And that's why the dynamic events have such enormous safety envelopes now.
MrJohannVegas 3 years ago
I take it that was a brake test... Yep, the rears locked...! We lost a LR wheel in testing in 2001, and spookily on our next car lose the same wheel in competition.
jilbruke 4 years ago
This happened to me after our event in 1999. I took the car out on the highway after coming back from Detroit and I lost one of the rear end lower A-Arm rod ends... Just snapped off at about 60mph. Luckly I just made a bunch of sparks dragging the muffler. Kinda scary though.
aronhalt 4 years ago
remember kids
don't forget your torque wrench when come to competition!
haha jk i hope the guy was alright
donewithfuess 4 years ago
It was not a lug nut problem but more a low A-arm rod-end failure + a badly welded bracket. Interesting video but it was not a good moment for our team...
Franckidoo 4 years ago
were you using rose joint / rod ends in bending by any chance? a common fault on fs cars, encapsulated sperical joints are the best way...
jameshurst123 4 years ago
What you don't see is the woman in the stands getting smoked by one of those tires.
unlostfool 4 years ago
True.
bdcoller 4 years ago
@unlostfool shut up dane cook
Superchickenman159 1 year ago