Notice the pattern: both speakers make excellent points against the other’s religion; both speakers repeatedly appear evasive or unconvincing in defending their own religion. Conclusion: Christianity and Islam are both flawed.
People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care. I don't know if Islamic theology is right or not, but last year my wife & my two adult children paid a visit to a nearby Mosque. The Shaikh knew I'm Jewish, but still treated my wife and children like Royalty. Heck! He gave away his Hadith (Muslin legends) book to my older son, and even sent me a dish of delicious food! Believe me, it's this remarkable treatment what makes Islam so enticing. It makes us really humans. Shalom
he said "Muhammad has never raised his hand" Wood gave him the hadith quote that he hit his 9 year old wife. Then Ali says "Well muhammad didnt mean to hurt her". Well right there he lied, it doesnt matter if muhammad didt mean to hurt her, he still raised his hand to her.
@DoctorSargeMD No, it is not clear he 'raised his hand to her' - he may have hit her chest for a different reason. To catch his balance, or to swat a Spider. It is left unsaid & and unclear.
The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully. GO RICHARD DAWKINS !!
I will not defend the ''god'' in the old-testament nor Christianity, but please be more respectful to the Christians as they just follow what they have been taught without using logic or reason and not the mention following a book that isn't authentic as they claim it is.
@manmohak1990 Are you really this stupid and ignorant i wasn't talking to you at the first place but ill destroy your claims anyway!!
48:2 That Allah may forgive thee of thy sin that which is past and that which is to come, and may perfect His favour unto thee, and may guide thee on a right path,
No sex mentioned in the verse nice try liar, now read your own bible Ezkiel 23 its a whole chapter with detailed sex looks more as a porno-book then a revelation doesn't it??
@manmohak1990 Ps: Offcourse i won't defend the ''god'' in the old-testament because if i do i would belief what Heathsawyer said and the ''god'' in the quran is not described as that.
@Lizzio1980 I quote yours: I will not defend the ''god'' in the old-testament nor Christianity Unquote.
Neither I defend the "god" in the old-testament. This god which you quote literally refers to pagan god in the Holy Bible. I believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob. I have no belief in the liking, sex liking Allah Surah 44:51-54 Sur 52:20 Sur 55: 72-76 Surah 56: 22-24 Surah56: 35-38 & the sinner Surah 48:2 the great deceiver of his own children khayru al-makireena)! S. 3:54; cf.8:30
@guymassive I quote yours: Jesus never said worship me I am God, but guess what? Unquote. This is what u are a blind, dumb & deaf. because The God of Abraham. Isaac and Jacob has made you so. CAN A HUMAN SAY I AM GOD AND WORSHIP ME?! SHOW ME ONE VERSE FROM THE GOSPEL WHEREIN JESUS SAID I AM NOT GOD DO NOT WORSHIP ME. WILL YOU SHOW ME FROM THE GOSPEL. Muhammad was a self appointed prophet. Who annointed him as a prophet? Khatija & Warakka bin Nouful? Were they were prophets or Holy men???!!
@ThePathshower you believers are delusional....village has moved forward in terms of morality, science, laws, etc. but village idiots are left behind such as Ali, yourself and other evangelical...
The Islamic slave trade dwarfed the Christian slave trade, and there has never been, a moslem William WIlberforce, the emancipation of slaves was born of Christianity and no other religion, that says it all!
Ali, fell over himself when presented, with the hadith showed Muhammed hit his wife... he talked around it, but did not actually deffend it! He dodged the question completely!
Mr. Ataie seemed to be quoting the Bible as rewritten by Mohammed. For example, in the Old Testament God told Moses and Joshua that the people in specific places were to be killed because of their sins and that God was judging them for their sins. It was not a blanket order to "randomly" go into cities and murder. That is what Mohammad rewrote the Bible in his Qur'an and by his example in the haddiths to kill people for political reason and for revenge and for plunder and for sex.
Why are christian comments the first?? LOL ALI WON BY FAR Who are you christians lieing to? you guys must not know anything about islam other then what christians say..
For Ali to have won this debate, there would have to be positive arguments for the prophethood of Muhammad that went unrefuted AND no comparable unrefuted arguments against him. If you watch this debate again, keeping this in mind and trying to be impartial, you will probably find out that Ali failed in his effort, even though he is a very good rhetorician.
But even if we disagree on that, we can probably agree on this: we want to see Wood vs. Ataie round 2! :)
MASHAALLAH what a genius man Ali. Kudos to you and Mr wood please go back and read and understand Al-Quran first before quoting anything because you make yourself look stupid out there.Perhaps you could take an Arabic language class first before you explore Al-Quran that can help you understand better.And Mr Wood please answer the question people asked you and stop going around the BUSH.So embarrasing when you did not answer to any of Ali's Question.May Allah always bless you Mr Ali n my muslim
Great debate! Both gave great comments but I don't believe anyone won the debate.
However, David did uses too much ibn Ishaq's work while Ali uses too many double fallacy to justified the atrocities done by Nabi Muhammed saw.
Both David and Ali can be considered as liberals in both their religions but sadly many believers of both religions are not. What they believe doesn't really translate to what is happening out there in the real world.
@TXBornAndBread No, he doesn't... he appears desperate, he uses leaps of inference, he makes appeals to authority (logical fallacies) and makes pseudo-citations, meaning, he makes citations without producing said citation.
The questions Ali asked re women's head coverings are good ones. Indeed it wasn't until the last half century or so that women stopped covering their heads in church, and began exercising authority over men in church. The church has paid the price for ignoring these ordinances.
israelinbibleprophecy. com/demons_in_church. htm
To point out Islam as opposite, the same passage also says:
1Cr 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having [his] head covered, dishonoureth his head.
So sad that Muhammad's male followers only ever argue in terms of whether a little girl has had a period. This is just as Daniel prophesied of the Islamic beast. NEVER DOES IT EVEN OCCUR to Muhammad's male followers to consider WHAT THE WOMAN DESIRES - and women remain little more than the property of men - chattel - to Muhammad's followers.
Daniel 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women...
Arab ‘Historians of the Crusades’ p163 Imad ad-Din (1125-1201) on Saladin’s Muslim army taking Jerusalem. “Women and children together came to 8,000 and were quickly divided up among us, bringing a smile to Muslim faces at their lamentations. How many well-guarded women were profaned, how many queens were ruled and nubile girls married, and noble women given away, and miserly women forced to yield themselves
Ali's 20 century western English understanding of the Koine Greek term "houtos" translated as "this" generation, is also translated as "the same" 28 times. His misunderstanding of convenience, is also the basis of the heresy of hyper-preterist eschatology.
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Muhammad's followers claim to believe in a Gospel, that doesn't exist, as they believe in a Mecca that never existed before the 4th century AD, yet engage in repackaged Quraish pagan rituals as a result.
God is not a man, but God revealed Himself through the flesh of a man on more than one occasion, as in this example when YHWH revealed Himself to Abraham as a man, in the 18th chapter of Genesis.
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Ali rejects the earliest "reporters" like Ishaq, even though they are necessarily the basis of the later Islamic so-called "tradition" CREATORS like Bukhari of the late 9th and early 10 centuries well over 200 years after Muhammad lived.
The prophet that Moses mentioned is confirmed Jesus in the New Testament.
Act 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. 23 And it shall come to pass, [that] every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.
Also details what happens to Muhammadans who don't hear Jesus!
By killing innocent children, Yahweh saved them from following in the footsteps of their parents, that sacrificed children to idols and such. By killing them they were saved forever, rather than maturing and becoming disobedient to YHWH like their parents, they would be condemned forever. Just like the blasphemer Ali in the video who blasphemes YHWH to follow THE false prophet Muhammad.
watch?v=8lEro81ygXQ
Suffering forever for repackaged jinn-devil worship rituals.
Regarding drinking poison, it says that Christians CAN drink poison, and not be effected. It doesn't say that we are to dare God by doing so, any more than it says that Christians HAVE TO drink poison. Here is a exMuslim Christian convert, whose own father made him drink poison, that demonstrates what this verse is all about. watch?v=GUtsZm3_754
The false gospels are considered uninspired because they contain internal errors and historical blunders. That's why they weren't canonized.
Muhammad and his band of cutthroat, female prisoner abusing thieves, are well documented in their own books.
Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"
@sfyr We know that Mohammed was the Blackbeard of his age and that the Koran was his pseudo-religious justification of his banditry, slave trading and robbery. Islam is the religion of choice of cut-throats and gangsters because they were for whom, and by whom, it was devised. Its offer is that of racketeers everywhere 'join us or die'. They find within its teachings support and reward for their depravity, ignorance and cruelty.
@sfyr One need only look at the 1,400 year long Islamic slave trade in Africa - all done in accordance with the bandit prophet Mohammed's own lifestyle and values. Islam was devised by and for bandits and slavers. Its laws are those of slave owners; flogging, maiming, mutilation, stoning and beheading; all primarily as punishments for women. The Islamic world is having difficulty adjusting to the modern world because the lifestyle the religion provides for is one of conquest and robbery.
@sfyr We in Europe call the period of theocratic dominance 'the Dark Ages', then the battles really began in the Middle Ages. The Roman Church did EVERYTHING in its power to prevent the progress of science and suppressed any critical, independent inquiry. The breakaway 'Protestants' were also, in their turn absolutely vile and engaged in their own witch-burnings. We know what theocratic tyranny is all about. Islam too works tirelessly at hiding its grizzly secrets; 270 million dead for a start.
@sfyr The Islamic conquest of India is the bloodiest in ALL of human history. Your fallacious line that 'well the Christians..' or 'the Bible..' DOES NOT invalidate the criticisms of Islam. You brainwashed ninnies simply follow a line and show no genuine ability to think for yourselves at all. You just carry on repeating the same crap that has been debunked time and time again. But, being thick, you can't take in new information. It's called retardation due to indoctrination.
@sfyr You are not only brainwashed you are presumptuous. I don't look to the Bible for guidance. Some of it shows some wisdom, but most of it, like the Koran, is clearly the work of deluded, hysterical psychopaths.
@sfyr Who said I was a Christian? Nevertheless a moment's chance opening of the NT "And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you. That ye may walk honestly toward them that are without, and that ye may have lack of nothing" Thessalonians 4: 11-12 The Biblical NT teachings are full of little gems like this. The Koran has stripped out all grace and is merely the handbook of men who live by the enslavement and robbery of others
@sfyr I enjoy listening to David Wood, especially his criticisms of the Koran. He always cites chapter and verse and basically shows the Koran for what it is. I never listen to Fox News. So all your assumptions are simply spitting in the wind. I have absolutely NO respect for the Arabian Blackbeard, nor his bunch of gangsters and their grizzly antics and justifications for attacking, robbing and enslaving everyone within their reach. Allah was Mo's glove puppet, not a God.
@sfyr Oh puuleese. I've listened to plenty of fraudulent claims made by Muslims about the Koran and its so called miraculous content. It was debunked and dismissed at the time and MANY times since. The Koran is interpreted according to the audience. Mo had sex with a 9 year old for some and for others he didn't. FGM is an Islamic practice or it isn't. The point is, when there is no-one left to object Islam gives carte blanche to evil men and that is a problem.
@sfyr I have read the Koran; a repetitive diatribe of threats and slanders.Qu’ran 9:38 O you who have believed, what is [the matter] with you that, when you are told to go forth in the cause of Allah , you adhere heavily to the earth? Are you satisfied with the life of this world rather than the Hereafter? But what is the enjoyment of worldly life compared to the Hereafter except a [very] little". Obviously advocating violence. Qur’an 9:39 threatens those who do not 'go forth'. NASTY!
@ritchloui That's not true. The Catholic church, in fact, founded many of the greatest (and first) universities in the world. Monks also had numerous monasteries which were centers of learning and discourse, further the monks sought to preseve knowledge and painstakingly copied as many books as they could. Priests, monks, and nuns were some of the most educated people of the so-called "dark ages."
@sfyr The ENTIRE Koran is a vile diatribe and incitement to hatred; Mankind is divided into two kinds. Believer (the best of men) and Unbeliever (the worst of men). So the whole book basically is a primitive and sociopathic take on the world. It relies on fear and reinforcement of a mental illness known as the Stockholm Syndrome - there is little of value in it.
@sfyr Sura 5:33 "Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment." A disgusting sentiment from a barbaric slave trader.
Any muslim who will stand for islam quran and muhammad is holding on 2 straws. Islam is a contradicting syncretism of paganism, old testament, and New testament. Beyond an in depth and logical research, islam is nothing but a graveyard for objective morality,
Ali is a good rhetorician, but that doesn't prove anything, other than that he's a good rhetorician. And that's the problem Islam has in the west when it comes to defending itself apologetically. It's never had to do that before, Christianity has a tradition of doing that. So many Islamic apologists rely on the same flashy rhetoric - Deedat, Naik, Estes, Yasin, the list goes on (just check the Deen Show). But at least Ali seems liek a nice guy.
Wow Ali Ataie is Amazing, This woods guy contradicts himself, he was saying that Ali was just going on about Christianity, but its him who kept on not answering the questions, always talking the christian talk about Islam, how we are violent, he seriously looked stupid, Muslims believe in the Quran and the hadiths, not those side scripts he tried to talk about, we are not like cristians, who have got more than 2000 different bibles that all say different things.
@deestilo Hahaha, please, you can't even start talking about the Quran and the Hadith, because you don't know what you are talking about, like all the christians, And about the bible, it has been changed since time to go with the modern Era, and they still are changing it. In the Uk, the church in 2008-09 not sure, but they debated on gay rights and the Arch bishop of Canterbury accepted to let the Gays and Lesbians marry, So you can't tell me nothing. Quran, Hadith been the same since time.
been changed? have you ever heard the word CODEX or Manuscript? Even in 1948 we found MORE of the same Injeel /Gospel.
Now how can you say the same when your caliph Uthman BURNED many Quranic versions?
And HOW YOU DENIED your own Quran that Allah will guard the book? Read Qur'an 6 : 115 - 116 and see None can change HIS words. Now you don't believe that Injeel /Gospel and Torah not the word of Allah?
@deestilo That's a conundrum for Muslims that they simply can't explain. The Quran is self-contradicting on this very point. It says that the Gospels were the word of God, and it says God will not allow his word to be corrupted...but then it claims that the Gospels which were the word of God became corrupted. Ooooops....! Mohamed goofed. So either way, the Quran is wrong. The Bible was the word and became corrupted, or it wasn't the word of God at all -- proving the Quran wrong.
@ancienthibernian The bible is corrupt, because no one can convince ,e that GOD can write all that dirt in the BIBLE, Eg, Ezekiel 23, God to glorify INCEST and Prostitution in the bible? I don't think thats a word of God, God can't accept those dirty stories in his Holy book, would he? Thanks, I though so aswel.
@guymassive 11) Women are less in religion & intelligence S. Bukhari Book 6. Vol 1:301 Book 48. 3:826
12) Women must bring 2 witnesses if she is raped S. Bukhari Book 6. Vol 1:301. To bring one witness she finds hard & shy, how she can bring 2 witnesses!
13) You will be forced to wear burqa S. Bukhari Book 6. Vol 1:395-2; Book 4 VOL. 1.148; Book 73 Vol. 8.257
There is no escape once you entered in to this facist religion.
@manmohak1990 Lol, you are talking out of your backside sweetheart, the problem is that you christians look at other religions negativities and don't want to accept your own. So women are oppressed by I slam? """Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says""" (1 Corinthians 14:34 ). So is that equal opportunity, or the christians rebelled againt it in these morden times? Keep changing the Bible to suit you.
@guymassive The report noted that out of a total of 23,516 cases sex related crimes accounted for 14 percent. These included harassment, illegal relationships, pimping and operating brothels and selling pornography.
The commission arrested 1,011 people for drug offenses and 52 others for practicing black magic report said.
@manmohak1990 And talking about being forced to wear a Burqa, muslim women have a choice of wearing that, but our women are encouraged to modestly, ""HIJAB"". No one in this world is repected as a HIJAB wearing wonan, NUN, those JEWISH women the wear long clothes, but the most disrespected is the WESTERN hot pant, short skirt, bikini wearing woman, no wonder the west has the highest RAPE cases in the world, why do you think that? Women have no respect for themselves, thats why.
COMMISSION REPORTED OVER 23,500 CRIMES IN MADINAH LAST YEAR
Arab News Saturday July 1, 2006
This report was from the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice in Madinah that it handed over 23,500 criminal cases last year according to commissios last report for 1426H (2005-2006) vast majority of the cases involved drug trafficking and sexual harassment.
@guymassive I quote yours: And talking about being forced to wear a Burqa, muslim women have a choice of wearing that, but our women are encouraged to modestly, Unquote.
No. it is a compulsion made by the mullas, Imams not to pray together& to wear Hijab from head to toe /Hadith. A women can have modesty as she likes, her freedom is snatched away the male dominiated society of Islam. Hijab is forced upon Muslim ruled countries except predominently. Continued..
@guymassive Christian ruled nations where in choice was given bcause they r minority & once they r 40% then start trouble according to Muhammad./Hadith
@manmohak1990 ""And a man can marry upto 4 wives, but if he can't do equal justice to all of them, Then marry only one"". The only religious book to support monogamy. But you are saying muslim women are used as sex object? haha. Lets elaborate, its you christians that use women as sex objects, I just want you to look at adverts, Car, etc... adverts in magazine, women wearing the skimpiest of outfits, adverts have got nothing to do with a woman, but you always include them in there.
@guymassive Jesus made it crystal clear about polygamy refer Matthew 5:32. But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
IN SUCH A CASE ALL THE POLYGAMISTS/Muslims HAVE COMMITTED ADULTERY EXCEPT THOSE DIVORCED PROVED UN-CHASTITY OF THE WOMEN.
@guymassive I quote yours: I just want you to look at adverts, Car, etc... adverts in magazine,Unquote
This is ahmed Deedat’s stuff aAs he suffered for 3x3=9 years for mocking Jesus & blasphening Holy Spirit.(suffered not 1+1+1=3 years but 3x3=9 years. While dying some will suffer gravely & some will suffer for the cause of Jesus & some will never suffer at all. But this Deedat suffered for 9 years. Jesus struck him to his tongue & mind for boosting his own mind. Ref. Matthew 12:31
@manmohak1990 You are still chatting from your backside, you asked me if Muhammad spoke to God FACE to FACE. And I asked you the same thing, but you are giving me this bull of Jesus did not have to speak to God as he was God. You are drunk, when did Jesus say he is God? You guys been smoking too much weed and drinking too much Alcohol. Jesus never spoke to God face to face, And he never said he was God. Period. Stop smoking whatever you are smoking.
@manmohak1990 And I think ISLAM has the solution to your marriage problem in the WEST, like USA, you got 7 million women more than men, and you got more men in prison, you got a gay population, so if you are to put all that together, you will find over 20 million women can't find a husband. I would rather my sister gets married to a married man than for her going out clubing and having one night stands with strangers because she can't find a husband.
@guymassive Quote: Arab news Thursday June 5th 2003
Number of Single women may double by 2007
A Saudi sociologist has warned that the number of single Saudi women could more than double to four million by 2007 because of social problems spawned by the kingdom’s economic & social growth. Continued..
@guymassive More than 20% of marriages last year ended in divorce. PROFESSOR ABDULLAH AL-FAWZAN A SOCIOLOGIST AT KING SAUD UNIVERSITY HAS CAUTIONED THAT POLYGAMY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR UP TO 55% OF DIVORCES. He said changing times impacted on relationships and led to a loss of honesty, sincerity, love, compassion & cooperation. There are now 1.5 million single Saudi women.
Some 38% of divoces said that the involvement of their husbands in illicit relationships led to the broken marriages.Unquote.
@manmohak1990 I don't know how to explain to you sweetheart, I told you longtime ago that the QURAN says you can marry upto 4 wife, but if you can't do equal justice to all of them, then marry one. The you bring out these stats that say most polygamous marriages contribute to 55% of the divorce becasue of a sense of dishonesty, thats why the QURAN says, if you can't be honest to all the wives, then marry one, and then there will be no problem. Thats why islam is the solution.
@guymassive Why Allah your allah categorically did not said marry only one and included 2-4. Why???!!! Why???!!! Why???!!!
The polygamy is biting all the Islamic countries and no women likes’ second husband. But these women have no voice whatsoever.
You are speaking about Paul told women not to speak in the church.
I am a man keep silent in the church but only speaking to God through my heart mind and soul & not speaking to anybody/silent yet speaking in my own mother tongue not bye heart.
@manmohak1990 Chatting rubbish, so why did it have to be a woman that is maginalised? Don't give me that rubbish. An sex for 13 and 14 year olds in the WEST is helping your countries with high Under age and teenage pregnancies, aint that right?
The west has got bigger problems to deal with than concentrating on what Polygamy is doing. Because you got high Pedophile cases, Rape, Crime, Drugs, Alcoholism, etc.. So Polygamy marrriage should be the last thing to concern you.
@guymassive Why do you speak about Jimmy Swegart? Can’t you see your own from the Holy Land where in strict sharahia law was implemented? THIS IMAM OF A MOSQUE IS NOT SATISFIED WITH MULTIPLE WOMENS & CONCUBINES PLUS HE WANTED BOYS FOR RAPING/SEX/SODOMY?! I quote Qassim. A 60 year old man was charged on Monday with first degree rape of a child, Al Madinah newspaper reported. The man lured the seven year old boy to an abondaned building where he raped him. Arab news Tuesday January 24th 2012
@manmohak1990 As they say, people in Glass houses should never through stones. That was very rich coming from a CHRISTIAN, hahaha. So an Imam raped a 7 year old boy? haha. Lets develop this story now. So now the CHURCH is so clean, Umm, let me remind you, I want you to go back from when you can remember, How many CHOIR BOYS have been abused and are still being abused by your high trusted Preachers, Fathers, priests etc... Don't even get me started on this one sweetheart. SMH.
@guymassive I quote:As they say, people in Glass houses should never through stones.Unquote.It is the Koran throws stones to the Holy Bible.Koran was written by IIICaliphaUthman appointed committee & Uthman was killed by Muslims becoz he& Muhammad poisoned the Koran. Uthman collected all the written fragments or carved& burnet/destroyed. Who wrote all those fragments? Holy men?! What are their names???!!! As you ask about who is Matthew Mark Luke & John. R u not throwing stones to us, shame on u
@manmohak1990 Ummm, I am just getting started now, you have just ripped a bee hive, Now lets talk about your highly trusted SODOMISED memeber of the CHURCH, nowonder the Pop's VISIT to the Uk and IRELANd last year was opposed, your so called holy spiritual CHURCH leaders were found to have been abusing young CHOIR boys since God Knows how long. And you got the GUTS to tell me that an IMAM raped a 7 year old? How many christian Dads, Grand fathers, Brothers, Uncles are abusing kids?
@guymassive i quote yours nowonder the Pop's VISIT to the Uk and IRELANd last year was opposed, Unquote. Is it not muslims terrorised while Hajj was going on. The shia muslims tried to capture Macca!!!??? Where are you. You cannot keep hiding your sins. See in Yemen 9 years old are suffering in the hands of sex crazy Muslims in the name of Muhammad your pedophine prophet.
@manmohak1990 I am no fire, sweetie, lets talk about the Pedophilia going on in your so called CHRISTIAN amazing countries. You don't even have to look far away from home, Just looks at your own CHURCHES, how many cases of CHILD MOLSETATION have been going on since time, and they are still going on. And its your so called HOLY Preachers as the offenders. Thats embarassing. And you got the Nerves to tell me that a 60 year old man in Saudi Arabia raped a 7 year old. Mama Mia, Bwahaha
@manmohak1990 The WEST has poisoned the whole world. How can a pedophile get 3 years MAXIMUM in prison here in the uk, but a BANK robber get 40 years or life? How is that acceptible? Its is so bad, Money in the West is more important. A priest will rape a CHOIR boy, but it will all be swept under the Carpet in order to save the churchs blushes, this pisses me off. But if it was a Muslim who did it, Bwooo, It would go down in History as the biggest story. Stop your NASTY PREISTS.
@guymassive I quote yours:The west has got bigger problems to deal with than concentrating on what Polygamy is doing. Because u got high Pedophile cases, Rape, Crime, Drugs,Alcoholism.Unquote
U r blind to c rapes, Crime, drugs Alcoholism in the islamic ruled countries. I have given u only in the Holy city Madina, a tip of an ice berg. In other Islamic counties sharhia is not ruled what about the crime rape alcohol. Your chief/guru is a pedophile then the question followers???!!!
@manmohak1990 Bwahaha, you keep flipping and flapping, thats how I know your chatting pure Bull. Which Muslim ruled country has got high Alcoholism? Thats how I know You are just saying anything to justify yourself. How can a muslim country have high rates of alcoholics, Its like saying Saudi Arabia is the biggest consumer of pig products, you are really dumb, but thats fine, you have a right to be dumb, moving on. Its a free world. Bwahahahaha. SMH.
@guymassive As a human on earth Jesus was speaking to Heavenly Father only to have witness & witnessing to those blind, dumb & deaf people like@guymassiveto know them I quote John 12: 28. Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again. 29. The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him. 30. Jesus answered and said, Continued…
@manmohak1990 And don't me get started with this rubbish of calling prophet Isa (Jesus) God, because he never told you to worship him. And there is not evidence at all, so this christian concept of ""Three in one"", which does not make sense. Telling us how God is Three, but one, what kind of crap is that? Jesus is god, The holy ghost is god, And God is God, so that free gods to me, but when you ask, they tell us no it one. What are you playing at you christians.?
@guymassive i quote :And there is not evidence at all, so this christian concept of ""Three in one"", which does not make sense. Telling us how God is Three, but one, what kind of crap is that? Jesus is god,The holy ghost is god, And God isGod, so that free gods to me, but when you ask, they tell us no it one. What are you playing at you christians.R U & THE KORAN NOT THROWING STONES AT US?! WHO GAVE U &THE KORAN AUTHORITY TO DEFAME HOLY BIBLE.V BELIEVE IN GOD THE FATHER SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT.
@guymassive i quote yours: Those married imams who have multiple wives & concubines""", etc... So its okey for the CHURUCH leaders to abuse young children as long as they are not married? Unquote.
Those days were gone and you can only quote with all those rubbish. We christians will not keep such priests and display the misdeads in the media as well overthrow them. But the Imams and those muslims hands and necks and throats are not cut because they have influence in the sharaiah.
@guymassive John 12:30 This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes. Unquote. Infact Jesus doesn’t need to speak to heavenly father. The heavenly father was in Jesus. The word of God is entenal. Jesus is the word of God. Hence Jesus is eternal. Jesus was in the presence of heavenly father. Jesus said John 10:30 I and my father are one. John 8:23 I am from above you are from below. Unlike Muhammad, he poisoned the Koran and Hadith is rubbish & the followers are following blind belief.
@guymassive Jesus was both a human and divine. There is not a single human who is sinless and faultless except God. After building the temple of God; Solomon prays to God, 2 CHRONICLES 6: 36. IF THEY SIN AGAINST THEE, (FOR THERE IS NO MAN WHICH SINNETH NOT,). Only Jesus as a human was sinless and faultless (John 8:46). Continued…
@guymassive Allah asks Muhammad to repent and tells to ask forgiveness for his sins of the past, present and the forth coming. Can a pure, holy and sin only is the concern for allah in relations to humans & can allah ask muhmmad to sin in the future also???!!! What kind of allah is this asking his elected/chosen to sin in the future also???!! Surah 48:2
@manmohak1990 And you are stupid, haha, Muhammad came as an example to Humanity, he came for the whole world, and God wanted him to lead by example, Muhammad did not sin, but Allah wanted to show the people that we are all not perfect, if you sin, repent and Allah will be happy with you, Thats the whole point. God knows that we can't be perfect, so he just wanted, if God can ask his messenger to repent, then we also have a chance of forgiveness. Its just a lesson of repentance.
i quote yours: Muhammad came as an example to Humanity,Unquote Muhammad came as sample, not an example. Muhammad sinned several times & asked forgiveness for his sins7x70 times a day read Hadith. The holy & pure allah encouraged Muhammad to sin what kind of allah is this asking Muhammad to sin in the present& future also see surah 48:2. I blame your allah because he is encouraging his own elected to sin.What perfectness from a prophet can be achieved through sin repent sin repent?
@manmohak1990 And exactly, its was you who tried to let me know how in saudi Arabia, this Imam was charged with child molestation. So thats why I had to tell you a few home truths about your own amazing, crytal clear world of christianity, where child molestation by priests is acceptable, no priest has ever been jailed when the victims have exposed them, why do you think that? Because it would kill off the church, whcih is already dead if we are honest. Period
@guymassive I quote yours: And exactly, its was you who tried to let me know how in saudi Arabia, this Imam was charged with child molestation. Unquote. This is only a tip of an ice berg. Which ever is not caught & those who have influence r going scot free. A priest is not married. Those married imams who have multiple wives & concubines plus right hand possesses which means entirelyPROSTITUTION & ADULTERLY IN ISLAM. WHAT A RELIGION U ARE FOLLOWING. ON EARTH ALLAH GIVES SEX & IN HEAVE ALSO SEX.
@manmohak1990 Now this is where we the Muslims just won't take you christians serious, I told you that no priest has ever been jailed even if they have admitted sodomising little choir boy, and what was your answer to that? """Which ever is not caught & those who have influence r going scot free. A priest is not married. Those married imams who have multiple wives & concubines""", etc... So its okey for the CHURUCH leaders to abuse young children as long as they are not married?
Narrated Abu Sa`id Al−Khudri: Once Allah's Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o `Id−al−Adha or Al−Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell−fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so,O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied, "You curse requently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you.
@guymassive Is it that you validate your koranic literature by showing in the western countries those ignorant unknowingly and accidently 13 to 16 got pregnant/are getting pregnant???!!! I will give you a maximum 1000 Christians who became pregnant inbetween 13-16 out of two billion people. How will this validate your koranic and hadith literature as muslims propagate early marriage and their population is groing biologically with multiple wives breading like rats.
Notice the pattern: both speakers make excellent points against the other’s religion; both speakers repeatedly appear evasive or unconvincing in defending their own religion. Conclusion: Christianity and Islam are both flawed.
Jedothek 1 week ago
Ali is an amazing speaker, May Allah bless him and his family abundantly for what has done for the ummah,
Amen.
erikfadli 1 week ago
The Muslim won. i dont have a religion
amyellowhair 1 week ago
People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care. I don't know if Islamic theology is right or not, but last year my wife & my two adult children paid a visit to a nearby Mosque. The Shaikh knew I'm Jewish, but still treated my wife and children like Royalty. Heck! He gave away his Hadith (Muslin legends) book to my older son, and even sent me a dish of delicious food! Believe me, it's this remarkable treatment what makes Islam so enticing. It makes us really humans. Shalom
RabinoBoricuaVirtual 1 week ago
he said "Muhammad has never raised his hand" Wood gave him the hadith quote that he hit his 9 year old wife. Then Ali says "Well muhammad didnt mean to hurt her". Well right there he lied, it doesnt matter if muhammad didt mean to hurt her, he still raised his hand to her.
DoctorSargeMD 2 weeks ago
@DoctorSargeMD No, it is not clear he 'raised his hand to her' - he may have hit her chest for a different reason. To catch his balance, or to swat a Spider. It is left unsaid & and unclear.
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yngbronx1 2 weeks ago
The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully. GO RICHARD DAWKINS !!
heathsawyer 3 weeks ago
@heathsawyer
I will not defend the ''god'' in the old-testament nor Christianity, but please be more respectful to the Christians as they just follow what they have been taught without using logic or reason and not the mention following a book that isn't authentic as they claim it is.
Ps: Richard dawkins is a phony he never debates.
Lizzio1980 3 weeks ago
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manmohak1990 3 weeks ago
@manmohak1990 Are you really this stupid and ignorant i wasn't talking to you at the first place but ill destroy your claims anyway!!
48:2 That Allah may forgive thee of thy sin that which is past and that which is to come, and may perfect His favour unto thee, and may guide thee on a right path,
No sex mentioned in the verse nice try liar, now read your own bible Ezkiel 23 its a whole chapter with detailed sex looks more as a porno-book then a revelation doesn't it??
Lizzio1980 3 weeks ago
@manmohak1990 Ps: Offcourse i won't defend the ''god'' in the old-testament because if i do i would belief what Heathsawyer said and the ''god'' in the quran is not described as that.
Lizzio1980 3 weeks ago
@Lizzio1980 I quote yours: I will not defend the ''god'' in the old-testament nor Christianity Unquote.
Neither I defend the "god" in the old-testament. This god which you quote literally refers to pagan god in the Holy Bible. I believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob. I have no belief in the liking, sex liking Allah Surah 44:51-54 Sur 52:20 Sur 55: 72-76 Surah 56: 22-24 Surah56: 35-38 & the sinner Surah 48:2 the great deceiver of his own children khayru al-makireena)! S. 3:54; cf.8:30
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@guymassive I quote yours: Jesus never said worship me I am God, but guess what? Unquote. This is what u are a blind, dumb & deaf. because The God of Abraham. Isaac and Jacob has made you so. CAN A HUMAN SAY I AM GOD AND WORSHIP ME?! SHOW ME ONE VERSE FROM THE GOSPEL WHEREIN JESUS SAID I AM NOT GOD DO NOT WORSHIP ME. WILL YOU SHOW ME FROM THE GOSPEL. Muhammad was a self appointed prophet. Who annointed him as a prophet? Khatija & Warakka bin Nouful? Were they were prophets or Holy men???!!
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To all that doubt the Quran.: watch?v=HdQ0t1wfSe4
sfyr 1 month ago
Dear Ali: Hitting her or not, 6 year old Aisha should never have BEEN Mohamed's wife.
ancienthibernian 1 month ago
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ancienthibernian 1 month ago
are parts of the video debate posted elsewhere? each part seems to start "already in progress"... just curious yahya2006...
XSC3 1 month ago
Catholics and Christians are two different religions? *facepalm*
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XSC3 1 month ago
Ali never answers the questions directly....always goes into a straw man argument....two wrongs do not make things right.
Immy1993 1 month ago
@Immy1993 Every Muslim debate I've seen or read shows that the Muslims do not even have a concept of what a logical fallacy is.
ancienthibernian 1 month ago
davids woods is telling you the truth muslims are under mind control
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ALL CHRISTIANS ARE NOT CHRISTIANS WHAT ! ( SMILING ) ACCORDING TO BIBLE OTHERWISE...( GET READY FOR POISON TEST )
ThePathshower 1 month ago
ALL CHRISTIANS ARE NOT CHRISTIANS WHAT ( SMILING ) ACCORDING TO PEOPLE OTHERWISE...( POISON TEST )
ThePathshower 1 month ago
ALI THE LION OF GOD
ThePathshower 1 month ago
@ThePathshower you believers are delusional....village has moved forward in terms of morality, science, laws, etc. but village idiots are left behind such as Ali, yourself and other evangelical...
Immy1993 1 month ago
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ancienthibernian 1 month ago
Crawl back into your hole David Wood, you just got owned!
Every one of your allegations refuted. I hope all the non Muslims get to watch this video and see the truth about Islam! Allah Hu Akbar
aceadnan 1 month ago 2
@aceadnan Many Christians have already seen the "truth" about Islam, and continue to reject it.
ancienthibernian 1 month ago
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ancienthibernian 1 month ago
@aceadnan You need to go to a dictionary and look up the word, "refuted." You clearly do not know what it means.
ancienthibernian 1 month ago
The Islamic slave trade dwarfed the Christian slave trade, and there has never been, a moslem William WIlberforce, the emancipation of slaves was born of Christianity and no other religion, that says it all!
suminvictus 1 month ago
Ali's first question has nothing to do with showing Muhammad is a prophet!
suminvictus 1 month ago
Ali, fell over himself when presented, with the hadith showed Muhammed hit his wife... he talked around it, but did not actually deffend it! He dodged the question completely!
suminvictus 1 month ago
@suminvictus Hit her or not, SIX YEAR OLD Aisha should not even have BEEN Mohamed's wife. That is indefensible.
ancienthibernian 1 month ago
Mr. Ataie seemed to be quoting the Bible as rewritten by Mohammed. For example, in the Old Testament God told Moses and Joshua that the people in specific places were to be killed because of their sins and that God was judging them for their sins. It was not a blanket order to "randomly" go into cities and murder. That is what Mohammad rewrote the Bible in his Qur'an and by his example in the haddiths to kill people for political reason and for revenge and for plunder and for sex.
Roseywinters 2 months ago
It is hard to debate someone whose religion tells him to lie and be deceitful in imitation of Mohammad.
Roseywinters 2 months ago
@Roseywinters You are so right. If the basic standard of truthfulness can't be assumed...is there really any point in debating.
ancienthibernian 1 month ago
Why are christian comments the first?? LOL ALI WON BY FAR Who are you christians lieing to? you guys must not know anything about islam other then what christians say..
MahyarAkbar 2 months ago 4
@MahyarAkbar
For Ali to have won this debate, there would have to be positive arguments for the prophethood of Muhammad that went unrefuted AND no comparable unrefuted arguments against him. If you watch this debate again, keeping this in mind and trying to be impartial, you will probably find out that Ali failed in his effort, even though he is a very good rhetorician.
But even if we disagree on that, we can probably agree on this: we want to see Wood vs. Ataie round 2! :)
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ancienthibernian 1 month ago
@MahyarAkbar You'd like to cling to that false hope...but countless people have researched Islam and have still rejected it.
ancienthibernian 1 month ago
hahaa 29:25 david wood says Jesus A.S is cursed astagfurAllah no david wood u r cursed
12345jl05 2 months ago 2
ail won so hard david wood could never answer staright up
12345jl05 2 months ago
David pawned Ali by a Zillion Miles. Alis "religion" is suited mainly to desert dogs and not to humans in 2011-2 living in the west.
2011rawtruth 2 months ago
MASHAALLAH what a genius man Ali. Kudos to you and Mr wood please go back and read and understand Al-Quran first before quoting anything because you make yourself look stupid out there.Perhaps you could take an Arabic language class first before you explore Al-Quran that can help you understand better.And Mr Wood please answer the question people asked you and stop going around the BUSH.So embarrasing when you did not answer to any of Ali's Question.May Allah always bless you Mr Ali n my muslim
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Great debate! Both gave great comments but I don't believe anyone won the debate.
However, David did uses too much ibn Ishaq's work while Ali uses too many double fallacy to justified the atrocities done by Nabi Muhammed saw.
Both David and Ali can be considered as liberals in both their religions but sadly many believers of both religions are not. What they believe doesn't really translate to what is happening out there in the real world.
I hope they will debate more in the future.
tiaopiak 2 months ago
Ali destroys this fool
TXBornAndBread 2 months ago 14
@TXBornAndBread No, he doesn't... he appears desperate, he uses leaps of inference, he makes appeals to authority (logical fallacies) and makes pseudo-citations, meaning, he makes citations without producing said citation.
ancienthibernian 1 month ago
@TXBornAndBread You made me laugh really hard.
ancienthibernian 1 month ago
divid is trying to keep a straight face cos of lies.
chris x mas whats that all about
jannatulfirdous7 2 months ago
david got crushed
jannatulfirdous7 2 months ago
It is clear that ali has no regard for the truth.
thequantumvacuum 2 months ago
david wood trying to keep a straight face....
FUS10N1 2 months ago
@FUS10N1 It's hard to keep a straight face when you're "opponent" is failing so miserably, and presenting false "evidence," and logical fallacies.
ancienthibernian 1 month ago
ibn ashak is the great scholer lol ibn ishak is not realible david wood go read other scholers what they think about ibn ishak you realy ignorant
iwantyou9944 2 months ago
@iwantyou9944 yh dot listen to these christians comments Ali won by sheer authentic evidence. Its as if David is in love with ibn ishaq
FUS10N1 2 months ago
@FUS10N1 You need to research the meaning of the word, "evidence." You clearly do not have a grasp of the definition.
ancienthibernian 1 month ago
XAXAXAXAXAXA, david wood mampus.... when he doesnt know wht to say, ow ow ow... XAXAXA ALLAHU AKBAR!!!
devonashm 2 months ago
all religion is bullshit ..islam is one of them ..at least athiests dont claim shit they can never proove...like a invisible man in the sky
moneyxxxformula 3 months ago
The questions Ali asked re women's head coverings are good ones. Indeed it wasn't until the last half century or so that women stopped covering their heads in church, and began exercising authority over men in church. The church has paid the price for ignoring these ordinances.
israelinbibleprophecy. com/demons_in_church. htm
To point out Islam as opposite, the same passage also says:
1Cr 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having [his] head covered, dishonoureth his head.
watch?v=8lEro81ygXQ
PeteWaldo 3 months ago
So sad that Muhammad's male followers only ever argue in terms of whether a little girl has had a period. This is just as Daniel prophesied of the Islamic beast. NEVER DOES IT EVEN OCCUR to Muhammad's male followers to consider WHAT THE WOMAN DESIRES - and women remain little more than the property of men - chattel - to Muhammad's followers.
Daniel 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women...
watch?v=8lEro81ygXQ
beholdthebeast. com/women_in_islam. htm
PeteWaldo 3 months ago
Arab ‘Historians of the Crusades’ p163 Imad ad-Din (1125-1201) on Saladin’s Muslim army taking Jerusalem. “Women and children together came to 8,000 and were quickly divided up among us, bringing a smile to Muslim faces at their lamentations. How many well-guarded women were profaned, how many queens were ruled and nubile girls married, and noble women given away, and miserly women forced to yield themselves
ritchloui 3 months ago
Ali's 20 century western English understanding of the Koine Greek term "houtos" translated as "this" generation, is also translated as "the same" 28 times. His misunderstanding of convenience, is also the basis of the heresy of hyper-preterist eschatology.
beholdthebeast. com
Muhammad's followers claim to believe in a Gospel, that doesn't exist, as they believe in a Mecca that never existed before the 4th century AD, yet engage in repackaged Quraish pagan rituals as a result.
watch?v=Bq8VOZbuu-Q
PeteWaldo 3 months ago
@PeteWaldo They will probably never recognize the logical fallacies and intellectual dishonesty of their desperate apologists.
ancienthibernian 1 month ago
God is not a man, but God revealed Himself through the flesh of a man on more than one occasion, as in this example when YHWH revealed Himself to Abraham as a man, in the 18th chapter of Genesis.
watch?v=1cjXj6TMOAM
Ali rejects the earliest "reporters" like Ishaq, even though they are necessarily the basis of the later Islamic so-called "tradition" CREATORS like Bukhari of the late 9th and early 10 centuries well over 200 years after Muhammad lived.
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=2860.0
PeteWaldo 3 months ago
The prophet that Moses mentioned is confirmed Jesus in the New Testament.
Act 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. 23 And it shall come to pass, [that] every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.
Also details what happens to Muhammadans who don't hear Jesus!
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=219.0
PeteWaldo 3 months ago
@PeteWaldo Exactly. Well said.
ancienthibernian 1 month ago
By killing innocent children, Yahweh saved them from following in the footsteps of their parents, that sacrificed children to idols and such. By killing them they were saved forever, rather than maturing and becoming disobedient to YHWH like their parents, they would be condemned forever. Just like the blasphemer Ali in the video who blasphemes YHWH to follow THE false prophet Muhammad.
watch?v=8lEro81ygXQ
Suffering forever for repackaged jinn-devil worship rituals.
watch?v=xfWy5KaFvbU
PeteWaldo 3 months ago
Regarding drinking poison, it says that Christians CAN drink poison, and not be effected. It doesn't say that we are to dare God by doing so, any more than it says that Christians HAVE TO drink poison. Here is a exMuslim Christian convert, whose own father made him drink poison, that demonstrates what this verse is all about. watch?v=GUtsZm3_754
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=1146.0
PeteWaldo 3 months ago
@PeteWaldo Ali's attempts there were beyond ridiculous.
ancienthibernian 1 month ago
The false gospels are considered uninspired because they contain internal errors and historical blunders. That's why they weren't canonized.
Muhammad and his band of cutthroat, female prisoner abusing thieves, are well documented in their own books.
Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"
PeteWaldo 3 months ago
David wood is actually telling us that his God went thru an anger management course.
tudungsenduk 3 months ago
Ali Ataie = FACTS
David Wood = Empty Assertions
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Ali Ataie = Hands-Down WIN
sfyr 3 months ago 2
@sfyr We know that Mohammed was the Blackbeard of his age and that the Koran was his pseudo-religious justification of his banditry, slave trading and robbery. Islam is the religion of choice of cut-throats and gangsters because they were for whom, and by whom, it was devised. Its offer is that of racketeers everywhere 'join us or die'. They find within its teachings support and reward for their depravity, ignorance and cruelty.
ritchloui 3 months ago
@ritchloui
"We know that.."!!!
lol.."know"!!!...sori.. but you know NOTHING...
" Its offer is that of racketeers everywhere 'join us or die'."!!!
Where in the Quran does it say that???
"They find within its teachings support for their depravity, ignorance and cruelty."
Where in the Quran???
lol.. this is called proof by assertion...
sfyr 3 months ago
@sfyr One need only look at the 1,400 year long Islamic slave trade in Africa - all done in accordance with the bandit prophet Mohammed's own lifestyle and values. Islam was devised by and for bandits and slavers. Its laws are those of slave owners; flogging, maiming, mutilation, stoning and beheading; all primarily as punishments for women. The Islamic world is having difficulty adjusting to the modern world because the lifestyle the religion provides for is one of conquest and robbery.
ritchloui 3 months ago
@ritchloui
"One need only look at the 1,400..."!!!!
lol.. What a hypocrite... Christianity has the BLOODIEST history...
"Mankind is divided into two kinds.. Believer and Unbeliever.."!!!
lol.. So what do you call non-christians???...
How old are you??? Do some research before you comment...
sfyr 3 months ago
@sfyr We in Europe call the period of theocratic dominance 'the Dark Ages', then the battles really began in the Middle Ages. The Roman Church did EVERYTHING in its power to prevent the progress of science and suppressed any critical, independent inquiry. The breakaway 'Protestants' were also, in their turn absolutely vile and engaged in their own witch-burnings. We know what theocratic tyranny is all about. Islam too works tirelessly at hiding its grizzly secrets; 270 million dead for a start.
ritchloui 3 months ago
@ritchloui
Christianity has the BLOODIEST history EVER.. There's NO comparison...
It's the MOST evil religion in mankind's history...
sfyr 3 months ago
@sfyr The Islamic conquest of India is the bloodiest in ALL of human history. Your fallacious line that 'well the Christians..' or 'the Bible..' DOES NOT invalidate the criticisms of Islam. You brainwashed ninnies simply follow a line and show no genuine ability to think for yourselves at all. You just carry on repeating the same crap that has been debunked time and time again. But, being thick, you can't take in new information. It's called retardation due to indoctrination.
ritchloui 3 months ago 2
@ritchloui
Im brainwashed!!!!
lol.. look who's talking.. I feel sorry for christians...
If you wanna find the errors in the Bible.. pick any story..
compare how each gospel tells that story.. you'll find a LOT of errors...
sfyr 3 months ago
@sfyr You are not only brainwashed you are presumptuous. I don't look to the Bible for guidance. Some of it shows some wisdom, but most of it, like the Koran, is clearly the work of deluded, hysterical psychopaths.
ritchloui 3 months ago
@ritchloui
"..most of it is clearly the work of deluded, hysterical psychopaths.."!!!
Wow.. then why are you a christian???
This is what I dont get.. people that KNOW christianity is bullshit
are still calling themselves christians!!!
sfyr 3 months ago
@sfyr Who said I was a Christian? Nevertheless a moment's chance opening of the NT "And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you. That ye may walk honestly toward them that are without, and that ye may have lack of nothing" Thessalonians 4: 11-12 The Biblical NT teachings are full of little gems like this. The Koran has stripped out all grace and is merely the handbook of men who live by the enslavement and robbery of others
ritchloui 3 months ago 2
@ritchloui
"The Koran has stripped out all grace and is merely the handbook of.."!!!
UNBELIEVABLE... let me guess.. you've NEVER read the Quran.. right???
Stop listening to fox news.. and use your OWN brain...
If you're not a christian.. what are you doing here???
sfyr 3 months ago
@sfyr I enjoy listening to David Wood, especially his criticisms of the Koran. He always cites chapter and verse and basically shows the Koran for what it is. I never listen to Fox News. So all your assumptions are simply spitting in the wind. I have absolutely NO respect for the Arabian Blackbeard, nor his bunch of gangsters and their grizzly antics and justifications for attacking, robbing and enslaving everyone within their reach. Allah was Mo's glove puppet, not a God.
ritchloui 3 months ago 2
@ritchloui
"I enjoy listening to David Wood..."!!!
Do yourself a favor and listen to the other side of the story before you judge...
Wanna know more about the Quran??.. Check this site out..: quranmiracles-com
...over and out...
sfyr 3 months ago
@sfyr Oh puuleese. I've listened to plenty of fraudulent claims made by Muslims about the Koran and its so called miraculous content. It was debunked and dismissed at the time and MANY times since. The Koran is interpreted according to the audience. Mo had sex with a 9 year old for some and for others he didn't. FGM is an Islamic practice or it isn't. The point is, when there is no-one left to object Islam gives carte blanche to evil men and that is a problem.
ritchloui 3 months ago 2
@sfyr "quranmiracles" lol -- there are none.
ancienthibernian 1 month ago
@ancienthibernian
".there are none."!!!
Here's one.: watch?v=HdQ0t1wfSe4
sfyr 1 month ago
@sfyr I have read the Koran; a repetitive diatribe of threats and slanders.Qu’ran 9:38 O you who have believed, what is [the matter] with you that, when you are told to go forth in the cause of Allah , you adhere heavily to the earth? Are you satisfied with the life of this world rather than the Hereafter? But what is the enjoyment of worldly life compared to the Hereafter except a [very] little". Obviously advocating violence. Qur’an 9:39 threatens those who do not 'go forth'. NASTY!
ritchloui 1 month ago
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@ritchloui
"Obviously advocating violence."!!
lol.. REALLY???
Here's good evidence that the Quran is divine.: watch?v=HdQ0t1wfSe4
sfyr 1 month ago
@ritchloui They don't get it.
ancienthibernian 1 month ago
@ritchloui That's not true. The Catholic church, in fact, founded many of the greatest (and first) universities in the world. Monks also had numerous monasteries which were centers of learning and discourse, further the monks sought to preseve knowledge and painstakingly copied as many books as they could. Priests, monks, and nuns were some of the most educated people of the so-called "dark ages."
ancienthibernian 1 month ago
@sfyr The ENTIRE Koran is a vile diatribe and incitement to hatred; Mankind is divided into two kinds. Believer (the best of men) and Unbeliever (the worst of men). So the whole book basically is a primitive and sociopathic take on the world. It relies on fear and reinforcement of a mental illness known as the Stockholm Syndrome - there is little of value in it.
ritchloui 3 months ago
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@sfyr Sura 5:33 "Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment." A disgusting sentiment from a barbaric slave trader.
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ancienthibernian 1 month ago
Any muslim who will stand for islam quran and muhammad is holding on 2 straws. Islam is a contradicting syncretism of paganism, old testament, and New testament. Beyond an in depth and logical research, islam is nothing but a graveyard for objective morality,
davepinoy 4 months ago 2
Ali is a good rhetorician, but that doesn't prove anything, other than that he's a good rhetorician. And that's the problem Islam has in the west when it comes to defending itself apologetically. It's never had to do that before, Christianity has a tradition of doing that. So many Islamic apologists rely on the same flashy rhetoric - Deedat, Naik, Estes, Yasin, the list goes on (just check the Deen Show). But at least Ali seems liek a nice guy.
whyteay 4 months ago
David Wood got owned!
papillonfx 4 months ago 23
@papillonfx Let me guess..you're a Muslim, aren't you! Hahaha
ancienthibernian 1 month ago
The awesomeness of David Wood is just too much for me to bear.
MultiArchangel 4 months ago
Wow Ali Ataie is Amazing, This woods guy contradicts himself, he was saying that Ali was just going on about Christianity, but its him who kept on not answering the questions, always talking the christian talk about Islam, how we are violent, he seriously looked stupid, Muslims believe in the Quran and the hadiths, not those side scripts he tried to talk about, we are not like cristians, who have got more than 2000 different bibles that all say different things.
guymassive 4 months ago
@guymassive
Christian got 2000 different bibles? LMAO MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Islam got TWICE the number of surahs, 114 ! Bible got 36 OT and 27 NT!
Without Hadith however Quran worth crap. Totally unintelligible!
Without hadith and just Quran, no muslim knows how to do pray 5 times a day, or how to clean yourself (wudhu) and many many things.
Side scripts ? that's your muslim sources!. Wood deliberately use your OWN hadith !
deestilo 4 months ago
@deestilo Hahaha, please, you can't even start talking about the Quran and the Hadith, because you don't know what you are talking about, like all the christians, And about the bible, it has been changed since time to go with the modern Era, and they still are changing it. In the Uk, the church in 2008-09 not sure, but they debated on gay rights and the Arch bishop of Canterbury accepted to let the Gays and Lesbians marry, So you can't tell me nothing. Quran, Hadith been the same since time.
guymassive 4 months ago
@guymassive
been changed? have you ever heard the word CODEX or Manuscript? Even in 1948 we found MORE of the same Injeel /Gospel.
Now how can you say the same when your caliph Uthman BURNED many Quranic versions?
And HOW YOU DENIED your own Quran that Allah will guard the book? Read Qur'an 6 : 115 - 116 and see None can change HIS words. Now you don't believe that Injeel /Gospel and Torah not the word of Allah?
deestilo 4 months ago
@deestilo That's a conundrum for Muslims that they simply can't explain. The Quran is self-contradicting on this very point. It says that the Gospels were the word of God, and it says God will not allow his word to be corrupted...but then it claims that the Gospels which were the word of God became corrupted. Ooooops....! Mohamed goofed. So either way, the Quran is wrong. The Bible was the word and became corrupted, or it wasn't the word of God at all -- proving the Quran wrong.
ancienthibernian 1 month ago
@guymassive Your logical failure is that you think because something hasn't changed means it's miraculous and from God. That's ridiculous.
ancienthibernian 1 month ago
@ancienthibernian The bible is corrupt, because no one can convince ,e that GOD can write all that dirt in the BIBLE, Eg, Ezekiel 23, God to glorify INCEST and Prostitution in the bible? I don't think thats a word of God, God can't accept those dirty stories in his Holy book, would he? Thanks, I though so aswel.
guymassive 1 month ago
@guymassive 11) Women are less in religion & intelligence S. Bukhari Book 6. Vol 1:301 Book 48. 3:826
12) Women must bring 2 witnesses if she is raped S. Bukhari Book 6. Vol 1:301. To bring one witness she finds hard & shy, how she can bring 2 witnesses!
13) You will be forced to wear burqa S. Bukhari Book 6. Vol 1:395-2; Book 4 VOL. 1.148; Book 73 Vol. 8.257
There is no escape once you entered in to this facist religion.
manmohak1990 1 month ago
@manmohak1990 Lol, you are talking out of your backside sweetheart, the problem is that you christians look at other religions negativities and don't want to accept your own. So women are oppressed by I slam? """Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says""" (1 Corinthians 14:34 ). So is that equal opportunity, or the christians rebelled againt it in these morden times? Keep changing the Bible to suit you.
guymassive 1 month ago
@guymassive The report noted that out of a total of 23,516 cases sex related crimes accounted for 14 percent. These included harassment, illegal relationships, pimping and operating brothels and selling pornography.
The commission arrested 1,011 people for drug offenses and 52 others for practicing black magic report said.
manmohak1990 1 month ago
@manmohak1990 And talking about being forced to wear a Burqa, muslim women have a choice of wearing that, but our women are encouraged to modestly, ""HIJAB"". No one in this world is repected as a HIJAB wearing wonan, NUN, those JEWISH women the wear long clothes, but the most disrespected is the WESTERN hot pant, short skirt, bikini wearing woman, no wonder the west has the highest RAPE cases in the world, why do you think that? Women have no respect for themselves, thats why.
guymassive 1 month ago
@guymassive
BELOW CRIME IS IN THE HOLY LAND MADINAH.
COMMISSION REPORTED OVER 23,500 CRIMES IN MADINAH LAST YEAR
Arab News Saturday July 1, 2006
This report was from the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice in Madinah that it handed over 23,500 criminal cases last year according to commissios last report for 1426H (2005-2006) vast majority of the cases involved drug trafficking and sexual harassment.
manmohak1990 1 month ago
@guymassive I quote yours: And talking about being forced to wear a Burqa, muslim women have a choice of wearing that, but our women are encouraged to modestly, Unquote.
No. it is a compulsion made by the mullas, Imams not to pray together& to wear Hijab from head to toe /Hadith. A women can have modesty as she likes, her freedom is snatched away the male dominiated society of Islam. Hijab is forced upon Muslim ruled countries except predominently. Continued..
manmohak1990 1 month ago
@guymassive Christian ruled nations where in choice was given bcause they r minority & once they r 40% then start trouble according to Muhammad./Hadith
manmohak1990 1 month ago
@guymassive 8) Salath will be nullified if a Women, donkey, & dog passes by S. Bukhari 1:490 Narrated `Aisha. Pig passes by hadith says nothing.
9) Allah likes sin from prophet Muhammad past, present & future.Surah 48:2 What kind of holiness can be expected from a Holy Allah!
10) If divorced your waiting period will be 3 months. Quran 65:4; surah 2:228 Women doesn’t need sex for 3 months?
manmohak1990 1 month ago
@guymassive 4) Your husband can marry upto 4 wives. Surah 4:3
5) Women are sex objects, a tilth & an agriculture field. Surah 2:223
6) A women’s disobiedence is liable to be punished, beaten Surah 4:34
7) For disobiedence of men, no beatings & no verse in quran.
manmohak1990 1 month ago
@manmohak1990 ""And a man can marry upto 4 wives, but if he can't do equal justice to all of them, Then marry only one"". The only religious book to support monogamy. But you are saying muslim women are used as sex object? haha. Lets elaborate, its you christians that use women as sex objects, I just want you to look at adverts, Car, etc... adverts in magazine, women wearing the skimpiest of outfits, adverts have got nothing to do with a woman, but you always include them in there.
guymassive 1 month ago
@guymassive Jesus made it crystal clear about polygamy refer Matthew 5:32. But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
IN SUCH A CASE ALL THE POLYGAMISTS/Muslims HAVE COMMITTED ADULTERY EXCEPT THOSE DIVORCED PROVED UN-CHASTITY OF THE WOMEN.
manmohak1990 1 month ago
@guymassive I quote yours: I just want you to look at adverts, Car, etc... adverts in magazine,Unquote
This is ahmed Deedat’s stuff aAs he suffered for 3x3=9 years for mocking Jesus & blasphening Holy Spirit.(suffered not 1+1+1=3 years but 3x3=9 years. While dying some will suffer gravely & some will suffer for the cause of Jesus & some will never suffer at all. But this Deedat suffered for 9 years. Jesus struck him to his tongue & mind for boosting his own mind. Ref. Matthew 12:31
manmohak1990 1 month ago
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manmohak1990 1 month ago
@manmohak1990 You are still chatting from your backside, you asked me if Muhammad spoke to God FACE to FACE. And I asked you the same thing, but you are giving me this bull of Jesus did not have to speak to God as he was God. You are drunk, when did Jesus say he is God? You guys been smoking too much weed and drinking too much Alcohol. Jesus never spoke to God face to face, And he never said he was God. Period. Stop smoking whatever you are smoking.
guymassive 4 weeks ago
@manmohak1990 And I think ISLAM has the solution to your marriage problem in the WEST, like USA, you got 7 million women more than men, and you got more men in prison, you got a gay population, so if you are to put all that together, you will find over 20 million women can't find a husband. I would rather my sister gets married to a married man than for her going out clubing and having one night stands with strangers because she can't find a husband.
guymassive 1 month ago
@guymassive Quote: Arab news Thursday June 5th 2003
Number of Single women may double by 2007
A Saudi sociologist has warned that the number of single Saudi women could more than double to four million by 2007 because of social problems spawned by the kingdom’s economic & social growth. Continued..
manmohak1990 1 month ago
@guymassive More than 20% of marriages last year ended in divorce. PROFESSOR ABDULLAH AL-FAWZAN A SOCIOLOGIST AT KING SAUD UNIVERSITY HAS CAUTIONED THAT POLYGAMY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR UP TO 55% OF DIVORCES. He said changing times impacted on relationships and led to a loss of honesty, sincerity, love, compassion & cooperation. There are now 1.5 million single Saudi women.
Some 38% of divoces said that the involvement of their husbands in illicit relationships led to the broken marriages.Unquote.
manmohak1990 1 month ago
@manmohak1990 THE REPORT WHICH I HAVE GIVEN IS ONLY IN THE HOLY CITY OF MADINA. THINK ABOUT OTHER CITIES.
manmohak1990 1 month ago
@guymassive i quote There are now 1.5 million single Saudi women.
unquote.
WHAT THOSE SINGLE WOMEN ARE REMAINING IDLE WITHOUT SEX???!!! IMAGINE.
manmohak1990 1 month ago
@manmohak1990 I don't know how to explain to you sweetheart, I told you longtime ago that the QURAN says you can marry upto 4 wife, but if you can't do equal justice to all of them, then marry one. The you bring out these stats that say most polygamous marriages contribute to 55% of the divorce becasue of a sense of dishonesty, thats why the QURAN says, if you can't be honest to all the wives, then marry one, and then there will be no problem. Thats why islam is the solution.
guymassive 1 month ago
@guymassive Why Allah your allah categorically did not said marry only one and included 2-4. Why???!!! Why???!!! Why???!!!
The polygamy is biting all the Islamic countries and no women likes’ second husband. But these women have no voice whatsoever.
You are speaking about Paul told women not to speak in the church.
I am a man keep silent in the church but only speaking to God through my heart mind and soul & not speaking to anybody/silent yet speaking in my own mother tongue not bye heart.
manmohak1990 1 month ago
@manmohak1990 Chatting rubbish, so why did it have to be a woman that is maginalised? Don't give me that rubbish. An sex for 13 and 14 year olds in the WEST is helping your countries with high Under age and teenage pregnancies, aint that right?
The west has got bigger problems to deal with than concentrating on what Polygamy is doing. Because you got high Pedophile cases, Rape, Crime, Drugs, Alcoholism, etc.. So Polygamy marrriage should be the last thing to concern you.
guymassive 1 month ago
@guymassive Why do you speak about Jimmy Swegart? Can’t you see your own from the Holy Land where in strict sharahia law was implemented? THIS IMAM OF A MOSQUE IS NOT SATISFIED WITH MULTIPLE WOMENS & CONCUBINES PLUS HE WANTED BOYS FOR RAPING/SEX/SODOMY?! I quote Qassim. A 60 year old man was charged on Monday with first degree rape of a child, Al Madinah newspaper reported. The man lured the seven year old boy to an abondaned building where he raped him. Arab news Tuesday January 24th 2012
manmohak1990 1 month ago
@manmohak1990 As they say, people in Glass houses should never through stones. That was very rich coming from a CHRISTIAN, hahaha. So an Imam raped a 7 year old boy? haha. Lets develop this story now. So now the CHURCH is so clean, Umm, let me remind you, I want you to go back from when you can remember, How many CHOIR BOYS have been abused and are still being abused by your high trusted Preachers, Fathers, priests etc... Don't even get me started on this one sweetheart. SMH.
guymassive 1 month ago
@guymassive I quote:As they say, people in Glass houses should never through stones.Unquote.It is the Koran throws stones to the Holy Bible.Koran was written by IIICaliphaUthman appointed committee & Uthman was killed by Muslims becoz he& Muhammad poisoned the Koran. Uthman collected all the written fragments or carved& burnet/destroyed. Who wrote all those fragments? Holy men?! What are their names???!!! As you ask about who is Matthew Mark Luke & John. R u not throwing stones to us, shame on u
manmohak1990 1 month ago
@manmohak1990 Ummm, I am just getting started now, you have just ripped a bee hive, Now lets talk about your highly trusted SODOMISED memeber of the CHURCH, nowonder the Pop's VISIT to the Uk and IRELANd last year was opposed, your so called holy spiritual CHURCH leaders were found to have been abusing young CHOIR boys since God Knows how long. And you got the GUTS to tell me that an IMAM raped a 7 year old? How many christian Dads, Grand fathers, Brothers, Uncles are abusing kids?
guymassive 1 month ago
@guymassive i quote yours nowonder the Pop's VISIT to the Uk and IRELANd last year was opposed, Unquote. Is it not muslims terrorised while Hajj was going on. The shia muslims tried to capture Macca!!!??? Where are you. You cannot keep hiding your sins. See in Yemen 9 years old are suffering in the hands of sex crazy Muslims in the name of Muhammad your pedophine prophet.
manmohak1990 1 month ago
@manmohak1990 I am no fire, sweetie, lets talk about the Pedophilia going on in your so called CHRISTIAN amazing countries. You don't even have to look far away from home, Just looks at your own CHURCHES, how many cases of CHILD MOLSETATION have been going on since time, and they are still going on. And its your so called HOLY Preachers as the offenders. Thats embarassing. And you got the Nerves to tell me that a 60 year old man in Saudi Arabia raped a 7 year old. Mama Mia, Bwahaha
guymassive 1 month ago
@manmohak1990 The WEST has poisoned the whole world. How can a pedophile get 3 years MAXIMUM in prison here in the uk, but a BANK robber get 40 years or life? How is that acceptible? Its is so bad, Money in the West is more important. A priest will rape a CHOIR boy, but it will all be swept under the Carpet in order to save the churchs blushes, this pisses me off. But if it was a Muslim who did it, Bwooo, It would go down in History as the biggest story. Stop your NASTY PREISTS.
guymassive 1 month ago
@guymassive I quote yours:The west has got bigger problems to deal with than concentrating on what Polygamy is doing. Because u got high Pedophile cases, Rape, Crime, Drugs,Alcoholism.Unquote
U r blind to c rapes, Crime, drugs Alcoholism in the islamic ruled countries. I have given u only in the Holy city Madina, a tip of an ice berg. In other Islamic counties sharhia is not ruled what about the crime rape alcohol. Your chief/guru is a pedophile then the question followers???!!!
manmohak1990 1 month ago
@manmohak1990 Bwahaha, you keep flipping and flapping, thats how I know your chatting pure Bull. Which Muslim ruled country has got high Alcoholism? Thats how I know You are just saying anything to justify yourself. How can a muslim country have high rates of alcoholics, Its like saying Saudi Arabia is the biggest consumer of pig products, you are really dumb, but thats fine, you have a right to be dumb, moving on. Its a free world. Bwahahahaha. SMH.
guymassive 1 month ago
@guymassive As a human on earth Jesus was speaking to Heavenly Father only to have witness & witnessing to those blind, dumb & deaf people like@guymassiveto know them I quote John 12: 28. Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again. 29. The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him. 30. Jesus answered and said, Continued…
manmohak1990 1 month ago
@manmohak1990 And don't me get started with this rubbish of calling prophet Isa (Jesus) God, because he never told you to worship him. And there is not evidence at all, so this christian concept of ""Three in one"", which does not make sense. Telling us how God is Three, but one, what kind of crap is that? Jesus is god, The holy ghost is god, And God is God, so that free gods to me, but when you ask, they tell us no it one. What are you playing at you christians.?
guymassive 4 weeks ago
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@guymassive i quote :And there is not evidence at all, so this christian concept of ""Three in one"", which does not make sense. Telling us how God is Three, but one, what kind of crap is that? Jesus is god,The holy ghost is god, And God isGod, so that free gods to me, but when you ask, they tell us no it one. What are you playing at you christians.R U & THE KORAN NOT THROWING STONES AT US?! WHO GAVE U &THE KORAN AUTHORITY TO DEFAME HOLY BIBLE.V BELIEVE IN GOD THE FATHER SON & THE HOLY SPIRIT.
manmohak1990 4 weeks ago
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@guymassive i quote yours: Those married imams who have multiple wives & concubines""", etc... So its okey for the CHURUCH leaders to abuse young children as long as they are not married? Unquote.
Those days were gone and you can only quote with all those rubbish. We christians will not keep such priests and display the misdeads in the media as well overthrow them. But the Imams and those muslims hands and necks and throats are not cut because they have influence in the sharaiah.
manmohak1990 4 weeks ago
@guymassive John 12:30 This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes. Unquote. Infact Jesus doesn’t need to speak to heavenly father. The heavenly father was in Jesus. The word of God is entenal. Jesus is the word of God. Hence Jesus is eternal. Jesus was in the presence of heavenly father. Jesus said John 10:30 I and my father are one. John 8:23 I am from above you are from below. Unlike Muhammad, he poisoned the Koran and Hadith is rubbish & the followers are following blind belief.
manmohak1990 1 month ago
@guymassive Jesus was both a human and divine. There is not a single human who is sinless and faultless except God. After building the temple of God; Solomon prays to God, 2 CHRONICLES 6: 36. IF THEY SIN AGAINST THEE, (FOR THERE IS NO MAN WHICH SINNETH NOT,). Only Jesus as a human was sinless and faultless (John 8:46). Continued…
manmohak1990 1 month ago
@guymassive Allah asks Muhammad to repent and tells to ask forgiveness for his sins of the past, present and the forth coming. Can a pure, holy and sin only is the concern for allah in relations to humans & can allah ask muhmmad to sin in the future also???!!! What kind of allah is this asking his elected/chosen to sin in the future also???!! Surah 48:2
manmohak1990 1 month ago
@manmohak1990 And you are stupid, haha, Muhammad came as an example to Humanity, he came for the whole world, and God wanted him to lead by example, Muhammad did not sin, but Allah wanted to show the people that we are all not perfect, if you sin, repent and Allah will be happy with you, Thats the whole point. God knows that we can't be perfect, so he just wanted, if God can ask his messenger to repent, then we also have a chance of forgiveness. Its just a lesson of repentance.
guymassive 4 weeks ago
@guymassive
i quote yours: Muhammad came as an example to Humanity,Unquote Muhammad came as sample, not an example. Muhammad sinned several times & asked forgiveness for his sins7x70 times a day read Hadith. The holy & pure allah encouraged Muhammad to sin what kind of allah is this asking Muhammad to sin in the present& future also see surah 48:2. I blame your allah because he is encouraging his own elected to sin.What perfectness from a prophet can be achieved through sin repent sin repent?
manmohak1990 4 weeks ago
@manmohak1990 And exactly, its was you who tried to let me know how in saudi Arabia, this Imam was charged with child molestation. So thats why I had to tell you a few home truths about your own amazing, crytal clear world of christianity, where child molestation by priests is acceptable, no priest has ever been jailed when the victims have exposed them, why do you think that? Because it would kill off the church, whcih is already dead if we are honest. Period
guymassive 1 month ago
@guymassive I quote yours: And exactly, its was you who tried to let me know how in saudi Arabia, this Imam was charged with child molestation. Unquote. This is only a tip of an ice berg. Which ever is not caught & those who have influence r going scot free. A priest is not married. Those married imams who have multiple wives & concubines plus right hand possesses which means entirelyPROSTITUTION & ADULTERLY IN ISLAM. WHAT A RELIGION U ARE FOLLOWING. ON EARTH ALLAH GIVES SEX & IN HEAVE ALSO SEX.
manmohak1990 1 month ago
@manmohak1990 Now this is where we the Muslims just won't take you christians serious, I told you that no priest has ever been jailed even if they have admitted sodomising little choir boy, and what was your answer to that? """Which ever is not caught & those who have influence r going scot free. A priest is not married. Those married imams who have multiple wives & concubines""", etc... So its okey for the CHURUCH leaders to abuse young children as long as they are not married?
guymassive 4 weeks ago
@guymassive Sahih Bukhari 1.301:
Narrated Abu Sa`id Al−Khudri: Once Allah's Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o `Id−al−Adha or Al−Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell−fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so,O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied, "You curse requently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you.
manmohak1990 1 month ago
@guymassive
Are Women defficient in intelligence and religion???!!!
Was Muhammad joking???!!! I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you.
a women, donkey and a dog passes by salath nullifies???!!!
Was Muhammad joking???!!!
Why not a pig passes by salath is not nullifying???!!!
Women, a human is dangerous to your allah.
Read Haidth From where will you get 72 virgins & 25 boys for sex in heaven?
Women r Minority in paradise.Sahih Muslim: 36:6600
manmohak1990 1 month ago
@guymassive Is it that you validate your koranic literature by showing in the western countries those ignorant unknowingly and accidently 13 to 16 got pregnant/are getting pregnant???!!! I will give you a maximum 1000 Christians who became pregnant inbetween 13-16 out of two billion people. How will this validate your koranic and hadith literature as muslims propagate early marriage and their population is groing biologically with multiple wives breading like rats.
manmohak1990 1 month ago