@jujutraduz: "I was starting to think that I was a clearance item. but that's okay." marshell's is a store, mostly clothes but also furniture, luggage, shoes, etc., which sells at a discounted price. when she say: " I don't mind being the marshell's of naked ladies," she is saying that she doesn't care if she is cheap.
Could someone please write down to me what is she saying at 4:18 to 4:23, I can't understand it. And what does she mean by being a marshall of naked woman?
Sorry, I'm Brazillian, and I'm translating this video to Portuguese.
@Jujutraduz " I was starting to feel like I was a..a... a clearance item." Marshalls is a low cost clothing store in the USA. She is comparing herself to cheap clothes.
She writes much better then she speaks. Candy girl was a poetic, anthropological investigation of the rauchy side of life. This interview doesn't bring that aspect of the book out.
She writes much better then she speaks. Candy girl was a poetic, anthropological investigation of the rauchy side of life. This interview doesn't bring that aspect of the book out.
She writes much better then she speaks. Candy girl was a poetic, anthropological investigation of the rauchy side of life. This interview doesn't bring that aspect of the book out.
I read her book recently and I really liked it. not only was it hilarious but it was actually kind of educational in that I learned a lot of interesting things about how the stripping world works.
I would love to know what Marilyn Manson thinks about this woman! She seems like the intellectual crowd shocker that's not short of brilliance and wits, just like him (haters can go f*ck themselves, Manson's a genius who made money from people's primitivism). Love her! Just brilliant.
GREAT interview. she's hilarious witty clever intelligent brilliant creative genius and just her quirky great self all of that/her (well not ALL of her lol) shine(s) here and in her writing like Candy Girl and the script of Juno. as someone said, she has a knack for coming up with ironic ideas in strange settings. shes a bold/brave person so refreshingly honest, genuine/real, naturally pretty. impossible to not admire and respect. "if this writing stuff doesn't work out" lol. its working out :)
@illuminatioracle Do you even know what the word pretentious means? She spent a year as a stripper actually learning about stripping and performing as well; in order to write a memoir about it. What about that is "pretentious"? Retard..
@usf123456789 um, so by that you're saying that she's not pretentious by learning to become a stripper so that she could have something to write in a memoir of her long life of like what? 35 years?
i just read this book...(LATE I KNOW) IT WAS VERY FUNNY, i laughed so much, but she also did have a break down some time during the book and stopped stripping then she missed went back again and finally had a last break down w/ crying and all that, and stopped for good. I like that she was honest,raw and kept it very authentic.I cant judge her at all.
I posted this video so long ago and had no idea it had gotten so many hits. Hmmm. wow. Anyway check out my page, cause I just put up the new music video I directed. It is HOLLYWOOD, the debut music video for Glen Yoder.
@amitnagpal1985 So let me get this straight. Just because she has confidence means she deserves an Oscar? That's BS. There are other confident writers out there who deserve much more credit than she does. Making up insipid and stupid dialogue does NOT make you a great writer. Plain and simple...she got lucky.
@mwinyela How is it a whole other thing? Sex is the only activity that is considered moral to perform for free and immoral to perform for pay. The complete hypocrisy in that alone should be enough to prove how ridiculous anti-prostitution sentiments are.
i read this book and laughed my ass off! cody has a knack for coming up with ironic ideas in such a strange tabo enviroment. good on her for showing us a good time in an excelently funny tiunge in cheek sinario
i can see whoever wrote special dead having law suits pretty soon. guess what? theres a movie already out like that called retarDEAD. the writer of special dead is a turd and is an uncreative jackass. simple as that.
She should seriously consider stand-up. You're basically at the mercy of the viewers, like stripping, you're there to entertain, like stripping, you have a dominence over the people, like stripping. The only difference is the fact that you get to keep your clothes on.
Can you tell she's actually really embarrassed to talk about her stripping days? her body language says it all, she keeps pulling her (really short) skirt down the whole time...
yes shes embarrassed about her stripping days...which is why she decided to write a book about her stripping days and go on david letterman to give an interview on her book which is about her stripping days...no shes embarrassed i can TOTALLY tell
i think what garance is saying is partially true. perhaps she thinks her history of stripping makes her appear even edgier and adds some type of mystique or appeal to her...but as soon as dave calls her out for prostitution she looked really uncomfortable, as she should be. the answer to his question is yes - it was basically prostitution and I was a prostitute, but I guess she wasn't expecting him to say that. i dont even know why she mentioned that part...
2 paths to fame...notoriety...or talent...Diablo COdy has no talent, so obviously her path to fame is her notorious methods of stealing great movies from other countries and calling them her own original work. "Juno" was NOT original...Jennifer's Body sucked...when will people wake up? Diablo HOE-dy is a plagiarist!!
Of course Juno isn't original, no story these days ever is, but her script and her writing's completely original, smart and fantastic.
Have you seen United States of Tara, my favourite TV show, I was hooked after the pilot episode. Guess who wrote it, Diablo Cody. Oh yeah, it also won an Emmy.
Being a stripper once in your life is hardly notoriety, everyone's a stripper these days.
get it right United States of Tara won emmy's for it's lead actress..NOT the writing there is a difference, second JUNO was NOT an original script, it was stolen from "Jenny, Juno" a film that preceeded it by two years with the exact same plot with the ONLY exception being that 1) characters are white, and 2) the adoption issue at the end...do your research before looking stupid
You have no idea what you are talking about. "Juno" was written before "Jeni, Juno" had been seen by a single human being. It was still being made when she wrote it.
allow me to help you feel more stupid..."Jenny, Juno" was written in 2004 and produced in 2005...Diablo "Plagiarist" Cody "wrote" Juno in 2006 and presented her "original" but obviously STOLEN script to Fox...once again proving Americans can't do anything without stealing it from other countries
Do idiots like you not even possess the concept of "research"? Cody wrote "Juno" in late 2004 right after her book was published. At that point "Jenni, Juno" was still in production and wasn't screened until February 2005. She didn't sell it to Fox, she sold it to Mandate in the summer of 2005. Get a clue.
do MORONS such as yourself not see through the bullshit? "production" meaning it's been written, and already in the works of filming...Jenny Juno was already filmed in the early 2000's...but was stalled due to controversy over teenage pregnancy...and NO HOEdy did NOT allegedly write "JUNO" in 2004, she submitted a "rough draft" of a screen play miraculously a month after the release of "Jenny, Juno"...how about you do YOUR research faggot and not believe everything some former ugly stripper says
The timeline is a matter of public record, you clueless twit.
You're obviously just pulling everything you say out of your ass--you have her "presenting" the script to Fox in 2006 when she sold it to Mandate in the summer of '05--all of which is documented.
Everyone involved--including her manager and her coworkers at the paper she was working for at the time--says the script started after she sold her book in September of '04, long before "Jeni, Juno" was seen by a single person. Idiot.
Seeing as how Diablo Cody lies through her teeth, it would be no wonder if she lied about it. I mean just because her CO WORKERS said that, doesn't make it so. And due to the fact that it was RELEASED in 2005 and Jenny Juno STARTED in the early 2000's and THEN released the rough draft aftewards, sorry I don't buy it. Fact is Cody is a hack for her Unoriginal writing.
Thank you for exposing yourself as a complete moron. You obviously have no conception of evidence. You obviously don't even care about the very concept of evidence.
Hmm. Jenny Juno was released around 2004 or 2005. Juno was released around 2007. Jenny Juno was for the most part about a young teenage girl who got pregnant by her boyfriend. JUNO was also about a young girl who got pregnant by her boyfriend. BOTH characters are named Juno.
But it probably just HAPPENED to be this way right? I think you're the one who's the moron for believing a hack like Diablo Cody.
What I have is more evidence than your belief in some strippers lies. Try again idiot.
Sorry but I think it;s YOU who is not receptive to the concept of evidence. Because out this entire fangirl petty BS that I see from you, I don't see evidence where she DIDN'T take the idea from Jenny Juno (Especially when the evidence is against her) I mean do you have Cody's notes from way back or what not? Taking her word is NOT evidence because here's a little thought for you...celebrities DO lie -gasp- wow, a lying celebrity?! I'd never! psh.
The burden of the evidence isn't on her, it is on morons like yourself to demonstrate that she's lying. The movies have nothing in common but teen pregnancy and one name. The main plot in "Juno" is adoption, and there is no such plot in "Jeni,Juno".
I've been following her blog and career since 2003, I know for a fact she wrote the move before "Jeni, Juno" was released. Everyone aground her agrees with this timeline, there is nothing that contradicts it.
No it is on her. We're the ones making the accusations and we're the ones that pointed out the obvious time line. It's up to HER to disprove it. The fact that she doesn't is more than enough proof that she stole it and doesn't want to admit it. Any self respecting writer would show ACTUAL proof. Not just rely on some internet dumb ass such as yourself pledging their undying love for her.
And seeing as how YOU are the moron who believes EVERYTHING that celebrities like her says, then I say if anything YOU have to prove to ME that she DIDN'T steal the movie. Am I supposed to believe you JUST because you say you know for a fact and the time line doesn't contradict? Sorry but the time frame doesn't help her case OR yours. And you're obviously an ill minded invalid with an unhealthy obsession with her. So you'll excuse me if I don't believe in your so called "Facts".
In the opening credits in Juno, the female lead walks through town to get to the drug store to buy a home pregnancy test, the opening credits end and Juno takes the test in the store's bathroom.
Just before Jenny/Juno's opening credits, Jenny takes the home pregnancy test in her bathroom, and once the credits roll, Jenny rides a bike through town.
In the opening credits for both movies, the fonts appear to be written with crayons.
Both Juno and Jenny take the over-the-counter pregnancy test exactly three times.
Essentially, both movies start in the same narrative time perspective and the actual "deed" that creates the pregnancy is told in a flashback, not in the linear order of the story telling.
Both male leads appear indecisive and weak in the beginning but have inner strength that's appreciated later.
But I am sure this is ALL just one huge misunderstanding.
Now is this concrete evidence? No, but you know what? it's more than what YOU have. And that's not fact. Also by your logic if I were to write a movie script about a hero who dresses up as a bat and fights crimes and calls himself...Batguy then that wouldn't be plagerism right? And don't you worry because everyone around ME agrees that I wrote this WAY before I heard of batman. And they're not just saying that because they're trying to save their own ass either. I did NOT get this from Batman.
Listen, shit for brains, you have nothing for your case but a few weak coincidences. "Juno" is about adoption. The primary location is the home of the adoptive parents. No adoption plot exists in "Jeni, Juno".
On my side, I was reading her blog, the blogs and comments of the journalists she worked with while this was happening, and even exchanged a few messages with her ex-husband. I know it was written before "Jeni, Juno". Prove it wasn't or shut the fuck up.
Anything that I have here automatically trumps any made up or forged evidence that you, or anyone of her ill minded, unintelligent moronic fanbase can come up with. As far as I have NOTHING on my case, I sure as hell have a whole lot more than YOU and the rest of the Diablo Cody fantards have.
Also there IS an adoption plot that exist in Jenny/Juno. Maybe if you weren't an unintelligent, half with fucktard who believes everything that hack tells you, you might actually SEE her for the fraud she is. But no, you're the typical hollywood brainwashed retard that believes everything she says. Again that's NOT proof. That's you being the mindless Cody drone you are allowing yourself to be bamboozeled by an otherwise talentless writer. Maybe you should actually SEE Jenny Juno first...
And OBVIOUSLY that journalist is going to agree with cody and make up those blog comments. I wouldn't be surprised if Cody actually PAID a journalist to work with her. Thats not proof. That's still someone else on her side trying to save their own image. Again anyone who's worked with her would try to cover up their own ass so they can save face and say that they didn't work with someone who is a work stealing cunt.
Again you DON'T know it was written before Jenny/Juno because if you did you'd have actual PROOF that it was written before said movie. everything you've stated is a their word against ours situation. You have nothing on your side. If anything, the stuff I stated is more PROOF than the evidence you have. I use the word evidence loosely because you have none, for someone who talks about bringing up evidence, you seem to have a problem doing so. Could it be that...you have no evidence?
So again the burden of proof is on YOU and Cody. Not us. We have more evidence and "coincidences" to make an accusation while you have more or less, Cody's word and the word of anyone affiliated with her. Also there's a LOT more than what I've stated earlier. That was just a small sampling. I was being kind to you. So why don't YOU prove that it wasn't copied or just piss off. Better yet don't. I find your attempts mildly amusing.
You don't have any evidence, shit for brains. All you have is a conspiracy theory with nothing to back it up but a few meaningless coincidences.
The part that especially made me laugh was the idea that she paid the entire staff of City Pages, including her boss, noted film critic Rob Nelson, to lie about her having written the movie in 2004 when she worked there.
You make about as much sense as a Holocaust denier, shit for brains.
I have more evidence than you. Do YOU have any sort of proof that it was just a freak coincidence? That she just happened to just stumble on the same concept and that she just HAPPENED to Americanize an idea that was already conceived by a Korean film maker?
What I find rather amusing on your end is that you actually believe EVERYTHING this hack is telling you, yet you can't find the evidence to back it up for shit. No paper work, no official document, just a few words and a nice made up story by her former employers. Of course they are going to go along with that lie. You think an entire journalist staff wants their credibility shot because they found out that they were working with a thief all along. Of course they would lie.
That's like saying Johnny Cochran would come clean about the OJ Simpson case that literally gave him world wide fame. Of course they were going to go along with the lie.
Also the fact that you noted a film critic as a notable source is just too funny. I mean really. Film critics? People who are literally paid to BS their way throughout their entire career? And you're noting HIM as a reliable source? But because he was affiliated with Cody automatically means it's so right? You're about as deluded as an obsessed OJ Simpson fan who's still thinks OJ's innocent.
Your idiocy is your own undoing. And as I stated before, if anyone here is the real Shit for brains it's you...lol film critic. That was just too funny.
In all honesty you have nothing. No notable source, no hard evidence to back you up, no official documentation not even a copy of the rough draft that was DATED back when she allegedly "Wrote" Juno.
And those "meaningless coincidences" as you claim have a LOT more in common and are just TOO coincidental to be brushed off. Face it, you lost.
An entire staff of journalists is going to support a lie rather than make international news with a huge story. All it would take is one of them to break ranks.
Plus, she's so smart to have organized a conspiracy such that not one person makes a statement that contradicts the claimed timeline, smart enough to be blogging writing a movie before the one she steals from is even out, but she's dumb enough to copy a character name.
You still have no proof except someone's unproven word that she didn't do it, coaxed with a group of people who are about as credible as Fox News. Seems like you're the one with the issue of providing evidence. can you be any more of a bumbling contradicting idiot?
She wouldn't be the first one to try and cover up her tracks and she wouldn't be the last. Again this is just more idiotic ramblings from some obsessive Juno and Diablo Cody fanbot that they would rather see her get away with the lie that support REAL writing talent.
Also is it really that unbelievable that a corrupted journalist staff would lie about working with a hack just to save their own name? This isn't the first time a talentless hack had to cover up her own misdoings. And it's really NOT that hard to make up a lie and some piss ant story to make yourself more believable. Politicians do it all the time. Hell even news anchors and so called TV journalists do it. It's really not that hard to make up story and have people stick with it.
And she copied MORE than just the name. It's the name, similar premise, even the filming style. So yeah, aparently she is dumb enough to copy more than just a name. You're right about that. Her cockiness got the best of her and frankly your own case of chronic stupidity allows you to believe such BS. I'd insult you for being the mind numbing, bumbling and stumbling invalid that you are, truth is, I feel sorry that you put your faith into someone who's only talent is that she's a "good" liar.
So then according to YOU, corruption and lies don't exist then right? I mean since you consider a group of people who go along with a liar like Diablo Cody is first rate, then I can say the same about Fox news or even something as trite as MTV news. They don't get their facts mixed up at all. You're one sad deluded fool.
You have no independent evidence they are corrupt, it's merely an illusion you have to maintain to support your nutcase conspiracy.
She spent her career at the paper and 90% of her blogging focused on her pop culture interests, and never once did she show the slightest interest in Asian culture on any level. Only an Asian film fan would know anything about an insignificant Korean teen movie months before it was released.
Tell me more about the all-important adoption plot in "Jeni, Juno".
You are aware that Evidence IS meant to be covered up? Since this is a pretty LARGE group of people, it's pretty easy to cover up. Again you're just a fool who has no idea how to spot a hack when she sees one.
And seeing as how she spent her career at the paper and did a lot of Blogging, it's pretty easy to find information of unreleased asian cinema. Again they have access to sources that the public doesn't have. You have no proof that she didn't copy the movie and you're still a moron.
Burden of proof is still on you, idiot. If it were even possible to make a case, you could have, and the Korean director would have sued or at least made a stink about it. Unlike you, he's got a brain.
Why can't you tell me about the adoption plotline in "Jeni, Juno"? Do the parents divorce? It's the most important part about "Juno", so how does it play in the film she copied? What's holding you back?
No it's always been on you, you brain moron. I have made a case and I proved it. Again it's up to YOU to actually prove ME wrong with solid evidence. You have none and yous till chose to live in this world of obvious ignorance. maybe if you weren't a simpleton with the common sense of a lump of coal you'd see just how much of stealing hack you are. The burden of PROOF is on you seeing as how you claim to know her or you've been following her.
Again you've shown me NOTHING except the fact that you're a mindless invalid that believies everything and anything you hear on the internet. Unlike you, I have the common sense to see a hack when I see one and unlike YOU. I acutally USE my brain to read between the lines. Something you have yet to master.
And the reason I am NOT telling you is because once again the burden PROOF is still on YOU. Like I said before, changing some stuff around here and there is a good way to cover something up. Still doesn't change the fact she stole the script. Why can't YOU prove to me that she didn't? Huh I mean if you know for a FACT that she didn'y and had some hard documents or proof to back up yourstatement then we wouldn't be having this conversation. But alas you're just another fanbot idiot with no proof.
We both know that the reason you can't tell me anything about the adoption plot in "Jeni, Juno" is because there isn't one.
We both know that since adoption is the main theme of "Juno" and not a theme of "Jeni,Juno" at all, that your plagiarism idea falls to pieces. This isn't a minor difference, it is a major difference. The adoptive father gets more screen time than the father of her kid.
That's why the makers of "Jeni,Juno", being smarter and saner than you, haven't raised complaints.
Again you are the victim of your own ignorance. It seems your deluded mindset doesn't allow you to see things there. I didn't mention the adoption plot in Jenny/Juno because I was waiting for YOU to prove to ME that it is NOT. Which you still have yet to do. I wonder why you are holding back on that. I think it's because deep down inside you know what kind of hack Cody is.
Maybe if you weren't such an insipid little fool you'd see that there IS actually a plot dealing with adoption. Albeit smaller, a plot none the less which deals with Jenny's older sister in America.
It's a smaller minor subplot, but fit's what's considered acceptable in Korean society. Koreans believe in intra-family adoption, but not yet in inner-family adoption. Jenny's mother was going to send Jenny to America, where her older sister, married, would adopt Jenny's baby. So yeah there is a plot dealing with adoption in the movie.
Cody merely just shifted the adoption angle into a larger setting. She just merely took the minor subplot of the adoption angle in Jenni Juno and turned it into a much larger one. Since you aren't smart enough to figure stuff out on your own, that's plagiarism. Which pretty much solidifies my argument much more and pretty much shoots down your BS tomfoolery.
Also by your logic, if a different character gets more screen time than the other character, than that's not copying someone else huh? OK then, well by your logic, if my character bat guy, had a loyal family butler working for him who just happens to be from England and had more screen time than that OTHER butler from that OTHER movie about a man dressed up as a bat and fights crime, then it's OK and it's NOT plagiarizing someone else right? You're so mentally inept it's not even funny.
Adoption is the main focus of one, carrying a baby to term with support is the focus of the other (and in the first, support isn't even a question).
Other than one character name and teen pregnancy, there is nothing significant in common between the two.
Case closed. This is why only nutcases like you push this theory and you never hear it from the people who made "Jeni, Juno". They have sanity and intelligence you clearly lack.
I listed SEVERAL similarities and "conisidences" that you obviously chose to ignore. And not only that I listed the adoption bit IN Jenny/Juno that Diablo Cody merely pushed to the front center of the movie script.
And it just so happens to be that BOTH titles were similar as well as the plot about teen pregnancy not to mention the OBVIOUS similarities that Juno ripped off of? Sorry but just because some mentally retarded and unintelligent Juno Fanbot says it's different doesn't mean squat.
Honestly you can end this RIGHT now and prove me wrong with some REAL factual evidence. Sorry but saying "they have different plots, period" means nothing to me. Obviously your lack of intelligence prevents you from giving me the evidence i ask for.
Sorry, the burden of proof is still upon you since no legal body anywhere on the planet thinks the film was a rip off, and neither do the makers of "Jeni, Juno". You are just a lone crack pot on the net with a crazy conspiracy theory and no proof.
The two films are not similar in any significant way, you haven't proven they are, and everyone involved or close to it agrees "Juno" was written in late 2004, making plagiarism impossible.
Now go take your psyche meds. You need them badly.
Again obviously everyone that is INVOLVED with Cody will agree that it was written in late 2004. Obviously friends DO cover up for each other. And where is YOUR proof that it isn't? I asked Many times for you to prove me wrong. Yet you can't do so. I take it that you've never seen the movie because anyone who has would note the potent similarities. Again you fail to prove your case because you're just some idiot supporting a talentless hack.
And seeing as how you overlooked the fact that I even ADDRESSED the adoption bit in Jenny Juno, it's obvious that YOU are the one with no evidence.
Honestly you say all this burden of proof being on me, but if you had ANY evidence that the two were NOT in any ways related to each other (despite the evidence against you) yet you show me nothing. Why are you so afraid to prove me wrong? I think it's because you can't prove me wrong because you HAVE no evidence.
Also just to further prove my point. Here are few MORE examples.
1. In the opening credits in Juno, the female lead walks through town to get to the drug store to buy a home pregnancy test, the opening credits end and Juno takes the test in the store's bathroom. Just before Jenny/Juno's opening credits, Jenny takes the home pregnancy test in her bathroom, and once the credits roll, Jenny rides a bike through town.
Both Juno and Jenny take the over-the-counter pregnancy test exactly three times.
In the opening credits for both movies, the fonts appear to be written with crayons.
Both Juno and Jenny take the over-the-counter pregnancy test exactly three times.
Essentially, both movies start in the same narrative time perspective and the actual "deed" that creates the pregnancy is told in a flashback, not in the linear order of the story telling.
In Jenny/Juno, part of what helps Jenny make up her mind is a pro-life book written in Korean. In Juno, part of what affects Juno's decision is a Pro-Life advocate who happens to be an Asian girl.
In Jenny/Juno, the male lead writes in chalk for Jenny I love you Jenny In Juno," the female lead writes in chalk on Bleeker's front step Check the mail Bleeker and what's in the mail box is a sign that Juno loves him.
There is a scene in Jenny/Juno where the male lead runs track for PE class and shows how much of a goof he is by comically bumping into a post. Something that showed a striking stylistic similarity to Juno's boyfriend in that he's both a goof and on the track team.
Both movies have a girl who's interested in the male leads at about midpoint in the movie and this creates an intense, but short burst of jealously by the female leads.
They are different I will give you that. Juno giving the baby up for adoption while in Jenny/Juno they keep the baby. The adoption part IS and I will admit a larger part in Juno (despite that they could have easily gotten it from the source movie. Juno is the name of Ellen PAge's character while Min-ji Park's character is named Jenny. But the similarities i mentioned have a little TOO much in common. But I'm sure it's all just a misunderstanding. Cause Cody is SOO original.
Again you can easily prove me wrong with a simple shred of evidence. YOu can prove me wrong by showing me SOMETHING hell ANYTHING that resembles an official document or hard evidence. Instead of telling ME that I have to show proof, why don't you actually take the initiative and show ME proof.
Everything you've cited is an insignificant coincidence formed by the common starting points of both movies--teen pregnancy. For instance, a female friend of mine in high school did the same thing Juno and Jeni did--she went to the drug store and bought tests several times, then went home each time.
The conspiracy theory you require is massively improbable since it require large numbers of people lying against their own interests. Superficial coincidence makes more sense to sane people.
So then all teen Pregnancy movies require people to take a pregnancy test three times? I mean it just so HAPPENS to be three times in each movie? Not to mention that ALL male leads in the move are insecure that spout off made up catch phrases. Not to mention that all teenage pergnancy movies all have opening credits in which the fonts are in crayons?
As I said, multiple tests in the face of denial is an obvious device, and it happens in reality. 3 is just the right number psychologically (it's how many my friend had before she accepted reality).
And as I explained, the opening credit style was an option suggested by the credit sequence company Reitman uses, not the script. He discusses this in the DVD commentary. Given the timing, it is possible that THEY and not Cody were inspired in this by "Jeni, Juno". But highly unlikely.
No but it;s rather convenient for them to just HAPPEN to stumble on so many similarities right? Considering that most people who WORK for Cody is shady at best, it;s hardly believable.
And as I explained, that's just one of the MANY to convenient mishaps that happened. That's like Carlos Mencia saying he's not ripping off other comedians, despite the fact that he's almost repeated similar skits from people like Bill Cosby, almost down to a T. Again, Cody is just a good liar. Nothing more.
I guess you've never watched any life time network movies then. Because a LOT of those movies that have aired on that network do NOT follow this formula.
And it's quite possible that a LOT of people are lying to save face. Oh wait, then again you, along with the massive sheep of people just believe everything you hear then. Alright gotcha. I understand.
There is no sense whatsoever in which the entire staff of a paper would need to lie to save face. They wouldn't lose any face by telling the truth, only by lying and getting caught, idiot.
In fact, they would score a fantastic international story by calling her out when they saw her saying she wrote it in 2004 and they knew she wrote it sometime after Feb of 2005.
Same for her ex-husband, who had already divorced her when he openly supported her story on the IMDB. He had nothing to gain.
No they would lose a LOT more than that. Consorting with a liar AND admitting to doing so would lose their credibility AS a news source you moron.
They would be renowned as staff who would forever be branded as someone who supported the works of a liar and a thief. it's what happened to fox news, and they're one of the most laughable news sources out there.
The fact that lying to support her would hurt their credibility is an argument AGAINST your dumb-ass conspiracy theory, Shit for Brains. They have no reason to do so, and every reason to expose her.
You aren't just an idiot, you really are utterly without reason: you are nuts.
Actually it's not seeing as how their staff would have MORE to lose than any one else. And it's also possible that they were paid off seeing as how Cody is successful in that monetary sense now and seeing as how she WANTS to cover up her tracks, it's pretty obvious what's going on.Seeing as how you are too stupid to actually provide some sort of PROOF that she didn't well that's to be expected of someone to support a liar. I wouldn't be surprised if she paid YOu off to defend her tooth and nail.
The very fact that you'd now be suggesting I'm part of the conspiracy shows what a completely childish nut you are. Have you even graduated from grade school yet?
There are no amazing coincidences between the two films, only minor coincidences most of which are easily explainable as being part of some shared plot points. The movies are more different than similar.
That's why there's never been a lawsuit or complaints from the Korean filmmakers. They are rational, you are batshit crazy.
I wouldn't be surprised if you were. Seeing as how Diablo Cody attracts those mindless idiots who can't think for them selves, It really wouldn't be a shock if you were.
And the those "amazing coincidences" i listed ARE what they are. Again you chose NOT to see that and you chose NOT to look at whats in front of you. just like the typical Diablo Cody fanbot you are. And like I said, it's ok. I;ve peace with the fact that you are a mentally deluded fanbot.
No, Shit for Brains, those coincidences aren't amazing at all. That's why the only people who think "Juno" was a rip off are lonely nutcases in obscure corners of the internet--losers like you.
Normal people just see some easily explainable coincidences, and when faced with the improbable conspiracy theory alternative, they do the rational, sane thing and accept that "Juno" was an original script.
That's the reason why there have been no lawsuits or even complaints from the makers of J,J.
Actually they are. Again you're not seeing this through a SMART person's mindset. You;re seeing this through YOUR mindset. IE the mindset of a ill minded retarded who can;t think for them selves. The similarities are outright obvious as well as the "coincidences"
Again this rules you out seeing as you are the opposite of normal intelligence. These are easily explainable coincidences, if they were you'd be proving me wrong right now.
Also the definition of "Normal" is preceding all others in time or being as first made or performed. So no this is NOT normal. And those coincidences are easily explained. I'll give you that. And the explanation is she stole them. I've given you examples and you have yet to counter any of them with nothing but this "She says its not so" BS.
in other words, what you're saying is "Bla bla bla bla, BS BS BS, I'm too much of a lemming to think for my self. I believe everything that comes out of Diablo Cody's ass. No matter how absurd it is and despite the evidence against her."
Except you have no evidence against her, and to counter my consistent testimonial evidence that she wrote it before anyone had seen "Jeni, Juno", you have to invent an insane conspiracy theory that no rational person would believe.
To think the two movies are similar enough to suggest plagiarism is a clear case of cinematic pareidolia (you don't know what that means, I know).
Feel free to have the last word. You've done your best, and you lost. I'm done wasting time with an idiot like you.
Testimonial evidence is just another fancy way of saying BS. Because the crap you have listed is anything BUT evidence. The fact that you take her WORD isnt proving anything. Because anyone can make ANY claim over the internet without a SHREAD of poof. Again the time line IS in my favor seeing as how you HAVE no proof of Juno being written before 2005, WHEN Jenny/Juno came out. In fact you didnt even WATCH Jenny/Juno. You called the female lead JUNO in the Jenny/Juno movie. So yeah.
What I stated was factual evidence which you chocked up to a coincidence. In fact that so called coincidence as you claim happen WAY too many times to be just a mere coincidence. Either youre an idiot, or you suffer a harsh case of mental absurdity, Id go with a combination of the two.
Fact is you still failed to prove anything while I on the other had provided more evidence than you did. Again seeing as how you an imbecile (the laughable way you used the term pareidolia ) you dont see your own obvious defeat in this. You failed to prove anything, except her WORD which is nothing.
If your own delusions makes you see this as a "Victory", then so be it. But youre just a sad little fangirl who hangs onto Codys every word like she was the next coming of Christ. If anyone is suffering a sever case of cinematic pareidolia its you for your laughable notion that Juno was actually an original concept. So until you can actually PROVE me wrong, you lost.
PS: Your efforts was chump change at best. It would be amusing if it wasn't for your horrific Fanbot behavior.
There's nothing insane about the fact that she's a good liar. The only insane notion here is that you think her script is original when in fact you're just some loser fanbot with no real explanation on how she did NOT steal it.
The REASON why there is no lawsuit or even a complaint is because, like I said, they refuse to acknowledge the existence of a hack. Like the Bill Cosby Carlos Mencia bit. You're just a foolish self deluded loser that believes everything she hears from celebrities.
Very cool chick.
happymeltedcity 1 week ago
@jujutraduz: "I was starting to think that I was a clearance item. but that's okay." marshell's is a store, mostly clothes but also furniture, luggage, shoes, etc., which sells at a discounted price. when she say: " I don't mind being the marshell's of naked ladies," she is saying that she doesn't care if she is cheap.
yllienverdes 1 month ago
@yllienverdes Thank you very much, now I understood it. =)
Jujutraduz 1 month ago
Could someone please write down to me what is she saying at 4:18 to 4:23, I can't understand it. And what does she mean by being a marshall of naked woman?
Sorry, I'm Brazillian, and I'm translating this video to Portuguese.
Jujutraduz 1 month ago
@Jujutraduz " I was starting to feel like I was a..a... a clearance item." Marshalls is a low cost clothing store in the USA. She is comparing herself to cheap clothes.
superflyenglishvegan 1 month ago
diablo cody has this thing called RBT, check it out! love her!
pakibukas 2 months ago
Margaret Mead was a whore, too.
Phi1618033 3 months ago
shes a whore lol,nothing more than a talentless whore.
MaaaarrJ 3 months ago
@MaaaarrJ watch "young adult" in the movie she is basically making fun of herself
luisgapro 2 months ago
my god, she is deadset juno.
polliANDjanna 3 months ago
blah blah blah...modern hip chick who fell for the propaganda does something outrageous......so BORING
670Kiester 4 months ago
Shes a much better plagiarist than she is an interview giver...maybe because shes been given credit for a work she never wrote......
akotr3mor 6 months ago
she could so be a stand up comedian
Rosstacular 8 months ago
My gf is simulating sex with creeps??? No thanks
SRNF 9 months ago
She writes much better then she speaks. Candy girl was a poetic, anthropological investigation of the rauchy side of life. This interview doesn't bring that aspect of the book out.
JUN1PER1 10 months ago
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She writes much better then she speaks. Candy girl was a poetic, anthropological investigation of the rauchy side of life. This interview doesn't bring that aspect of the book out.
JUN1PER1 10 months ago
She writes much better then she speaks. Candy girl was a poetic, anthropological investigation of the rauchy side of life. This interview doesn't bring that aspect of the book out.
JUN1PER1 10 months ago
Dave, stop trying to figure out where your next "business meeting" is gonna to be like.
moomoosborne 10 months ago
Those stockings are disgusting. Is this a 'mission statement'? Or just a matter of taste (or lack of, thereof)?
oYoYebutu 11 months ago
dear burn book,
brook busey is a grotsky little byotch...
regards..
regina george
97bruin 11 months ago
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dear burn book...
brook busey is a grotsky little byotch
regards..
regina george
97bruin 11 months ago
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dear burn book...
brook busey is a grotsky little byotch
regards..
regina george
97bruin 11 months ago
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97bruin 11 months ago
I read her book recently and I really liked it. not only was it hilarious but it was actually kind of educational in that I learned a lot of interesting things about how the stripping world works.
askysoblue 1 year ago
I love dis woman
crackerpopskikay 1 year ago 2
How do you "pretend" to have sexual intercourse anyway? :O
TheTinkle 1 year ago
man her movies are so fucking weird. The screenplays are HORRIBLE!!!
halflifeproductionz 1 year ago
@halflifeproductionz Why on EARTH are you watching a video about her then?
checkywho 1 year ago
@checkywho Because she's Regina George and Regina George is a FUGLY SLUT!
awesimo123 10 months ago
oh my dear Lord, what is she wearing?
firestartertwistedfi 1 year ago
I would love to know what Marilyn Manson thinks about this woman! She seems like the intellectual crowd shocker that's not short of brilliance and wits, just like him (haters can go f*ck themselves, Manson's a genius who made money from people's primitivism). Love her! Just brilliant.
gaz2206 1 year ago 6
Love her
joseaod15 1 year ago
GREAT interview. she's hilarious witty clever intelligent brilliant creative genius and just her quirky great self all of that/her (well not ALL of her lol) shine(s) here and in her writing like Candy Girl and the script of Juno. as someone said, she has a knack for coming up with ironic ideas in strange settings. shes a bold/brave person so refreshingly honest, genuine/real, naturally pretty. impossible to not admire and respect. "if this writing stuff doesn't work out" lol. its working out :)
shiningarainbow 1 year ago
Just checking an obscure reference on the Family Guy....Stewie was right.
cdfgh1111 1 year ago 2
i fucking love this lady.
thundernegro 1 year ago 2
She's a classic!
WarmLittleDiamond90 1 year ago 3
In all honesty i thought Diablo Cody was a guy not a girl lol i dont hear or know many girls that are named Diablo- not a very feminine name.
hapibth0pel3ss 1 year ago
@hapibth0pel3ss it's just her pen name, her real name is Brooke Bussey
aRoseByAnyOtherName 1 year ago
@hapibth0pel3ss It's a pseudonym.
gaz2206 1 year ago
don't you just fucking love her
xAngelaHayzex 1 year ago 3
dressed kinda....provocative.
fvyughbuy 1 year ago
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@NoirTerror Sé que soy un mierda, pero me preocupo por la banda. ¿Cómo estás?
Juez6 1 year ago
Discovered herself as a whore... good.
KopaleKopale 1 year ago
pretentious hipster bitch
illuminatioracle 1 year ago
@illuminatioracle Do you even know what the word pretentious means? She spent a year as a stripper actually learning about stripping and performing as well; in order to write a memoir about it. What about that is "pretentious"? Retard..
usf123456789 1 year ago
@usf123456789 um, so by that you're saying that she's not pretentious by learning to become a stripper so that she could have something to write in a memoir of her long life of like what? 35 years?
illuminatioracle 1 year ago
@illuminatioracle You do know that a memoir doesn't have to be entirely about your life to qualify as a memoir, right?
usf123456789 1 year ago
Diablo Cody.... how does she work?
aknutson11 1 year ago
i just read this book...(LATE I KNOW) IT WAS VERY FUNNY, i laughed so much, but she also did have a break down some time during the book and stopped stripping then she missed went back again and finally had a last break down w/ crying and all that, and stopped for good. I like that she was honest,raw and kept it very authentic.I cant judge her at all.
eeqlzmc2 1 year ago
I love this chick....smart, hot and funny (not necessarily in that order.)
Btw shouldn't her name be "Diabla?"
logansGT 1 year ago
so cool... so down to earth... good with words... one of my favourite writers... awesome...
Tamaohoi 1 year ago
I posted this video so long ago and had no idea it had gotten so many hits. Hmmm. wow. Anyway check out my page, cause I just put up the new music video I directed. It is HOLLYWOOD, the debut music video for Glen Yoder.
tstreet 1 year ago
@tstreet I think it's probably because she never really lived up to all the over-inflated expectations after Juno.
But you're right. She's awesome! People should totally check her out again! And her movies since Juno!
trentgerman 1 year ago
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animegalc4 2 years ago
were u not blown away by the confidence.. this woman deserved that oscar.
And something kennedy or some other US preisdent said comes to mind "If u r a janitor, be the best janitor out there and be proud of it"
this was actually kind of inspiring
amitnagpal1985 2 years ago
@amitnagpal1985 i was blown away at how bad she is lol.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
@amitnagpal1985 So let me get this straight. Just because she has confidence means she deserves an Oscar? That's BS. There are other confident writers out there who deserve much more credit than she does. Making up insipid and stupid dialogue does NOT make you a great writer. Plain and simple...she got lucky.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
LMFAO funniest comment ever
mwinyela 2 years ago
stripping is one thing. simulating sex in a closed room is a whole other thing - two thumbs down for her.
mwinyela 2 years ago
@mwinyela How is it a whole other thing? Sex is the only activity that is considered moral to perform for free and immoral to perform for pay. The complete hypocrisy in that alone should be enough to prove how ridiculous anti-prostitution sentiments are.
xXPinkGoddessXx 1 year ago
This chick was a stripper? WHY?
lolololol, gross.
digital2701361 2 years ago
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wow, what a great role model for young women.
nothing but a dirty slut.
cybersphere 2 years ago
i read this book and laughed my ass off! cody has a knack for coming up with ironic ideas in such a strange tabo enviroment. good on her for showing us a good time in an excelently funny tiunge in cheek sinario
3llymay 2 years ago 18
@3llymay I don't care if this is a youtube comment, learn to spell.
Lancekarasti 1 year ago
i can see whoever wrote special dead having law suits pretty soon. guess what? theres a movie already out like that called retarDEAD. the writer of special dead is a turd and is an uncreative jackass. simple as that.
cultcityclassic 2 years ago
I like her voice. She is such a funny cool woman
Phil19780 2 years ago 14
lmao
"the marshals of naked women"
4:28
jjdd1077 2 years ago
diablo cody is really a tranny from minneapolis
atfatw 2 years ago
she's an ugly attention seeking whore and her last project "jennifers body" was clearly close to her heart.
israelifaggot 2 years ago 3
if by "close to her heart" you mean the movie sucks just as much dick as she does...then yes you are correct
akotr3mor 2 years ago
hahaha. I agree. Juno was just that lucky fluke that made a momentary ripple.
sonne5 2 years ago
She should seriously consider stand-up. You're basically at the mercy of the viewers, like stripping, you're there to entertain, like stripping, you have a dominence over the people, like stripping. The only difference is the fact that you get to keep your clothes on.
GuhKnobKwi 2 years ago
Can you tell she's actually really embarrassed to talk about her stripping days? her body language says it all, she keeps pulling her (really short) skirt down the whole time...
garance2308 2 years ago
yes shes embarrassed about her stripping days...which is why she decided to write a book about her stripping days and go on david letterman to give an interview on her book which is about her stripping days...no shes embarrassed i can TOTALLY tell
natORGANIZATION 2 years ago
i think what garance is saying is partially true. perhaps she thinks her history of stripping makes her appear even edgier and adds some type of mystique or appeal to her...but as soon as dave calls her out for prostitution she looked really uncomfortable, as she should be. the answer to his question is yes - it was basically prostitution and I was a prostitute, but I guess she wasn't expecting him to say that. i dont even know why she mentioned that part...
mwinyela 2 years ago
How can anyone say so surely that she stole the script to Juno?
You'd think she'd be smart enough to atleast change Juno's name?
I dunno, i remain undecided.
helloimmatt2 2 years ago
Oh, she's so funny lol.
ProvocativeBoyToy 2 years ago
I remember "From Hell" and "The Exorcism of Emily Rose". This film is pure garbage compared to those.
richmond436 2 years ago
The Godfather
davidrey444 2 years ago
She talks like Katy Perry! I love her.
masterimasim 2 years ago
2 paths to fame...notoriety...or talent...Diablo COdy has no talent, so obviously her path to fame is her notorious methods of stealing great movies from other countries and calling them her own original work. "Juno" was NOT original...Jennifer's Body sucked...when will people wake up? Diablo HOE-dy is a plagiarist!!
akotr3mor 2 years ago
Diablo Cody is full to them brim of talent!
Of course Juno isn't original, no story these days ever is, but her script and her writing's completely original, smart and fantastic.
Have you seen United States of Tara, my favourite TV show, I was hooked after the pilot episode. Guess who wrote it, Diablo Cody. Oh yeah, it also won an Emmy.
Being a stripper once in your life is hardly notoriety, everyone's a stripper these days.
allycatten 2 years ago
get it right United States of Tara won emmy's for it's lead actress..NOT the writing there is a difference, second JUNO was NOT an original script, it was stolen from "Jenny, Juno" a film that preceeded it by two years with the exact same plot with the ONLY exception being that 1) characters are white, and 2) the adoption issue at the end...do your research before looking stupid
akotr3mor 2 years ago
You have no idea what you are talking about. "Juno" was written before "Jeni, Juno" had been seen by a single human being. It was still being made when she wrote it.
Faustus5 2 years ago
allow me to help you feel more stupid..."Jenny, Juno" was written in 2004 and produced in 2005...Diablo "Plagiarist" Cody "wrote" Juno in 2006 and presented her "original" but obviously STOLEN script to Fox...once again proving Americans can't do anything without stealing it from other countries
akotr3mor 2 years ago
Do idiots like you not even possess the concept of "research"? Cody wrote "Juno" in late 2004 right after her book was published. At that point "Jenni, Juno" was still in production and wasn't screened until February 2005. She didn't sell it to Fox, she sold it to Mandate in the summer of 2005. Get a clue.
Faustus5 2 years ago
do MORONS such as yourself not see through the bullshit? "production" meaning it's been written, and already in the works of filming...Jenny Juno was already filmed in the early 2000's...but was stalled due to controversy over teenage pregnancy...and NO HOEdy did NOT allegedly write "JUNO" in 2004, she submitted a "rough draft" of a screen play miraculously a month after the release of "Jenny, Juno"...how about you do YOUR research faggot and not believe everything some former ugly stripper says
akotr3mor 2 years ago
The timeline is a matter of public record, you clueless twit.
You're obviously just pulling everything you say out of your ass--you have her "presenting" the script to Fox in 2006 when she sold it to Mandate in the summer of '05--all of which is documented.
Everyone involved--including her manager and her coworkers at the paper she was working for at the time--says the script started after she sold her book in September of '04, long before "Jeni, Juno" was seen by a single person. Idiot.
Faustus5 2 years ago
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SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Seeing as how Diablo Cody lies through her teeth, it would be no wonder if she lied about it. I mean just because her CO WORKERS said that, doesn't make it so. And due to the fact that it was RELEASED in 2005 and Jenny Juno STARTED in the early 2000's and THEN released the rough draft aftewards, sorry I don't buy it. Fact is Cody is a hack for her Unoriginal writing.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Thank you for exposing yourself as a complete moron. You obviously have no conception of evidence. You obviously don't even care about the very concept of evidence.
Faustus5 2 years ago
Hmm. Jenny Juno was released around 2004 or 2005. Juno was released around 2007. Jenny Juno was for the most part about a young teenage girl who got pregnant by her boyfriend. JUNO was also about a young girl who got pregnant by her boyfriend. BOTH characters are named Juno.
But it probably just HAPPENED to be this way right? I think you're the one who's the moron for believing a hack like Diablo Cody.
What I have is more evidence than your belief in some strippers lies. Try again idiot.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Sorry but I think it;s YOU who is not receptive to the concept of evidence. Because out this entire fangirl petty BS that I see from you, I don't see evidence where she DIDN'T take the idea from Jenny Juno (Especially when the evidence is against her) I mean do you have Cody's notes from way back or what not? Taking her word is NOT evidence because here's a little thought for you...celebrities DO lie -gasp- wow, a lying celebrity?! I'd never! psh.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
The burden of the evidence isn't on her, it is on morons like yourself to demonstrate that she's lying. The movies have nothing in common but teen pregnancy and one name. The main plot in "Juno" is adoption, and there is no such plot in "Jeni,Juno".
I've been following her blog and career since 2003, I know for a fact she wrote the move before "Jeni, Juno" was released. Everyone aground her agrees with this timeline, there is nothing that contradicts it.
Faustus5 2 years ago
No it is on her. We're the ones making the accusations and we're the ones that pointed out the obvious time line. It's up to HER to disprove it. The fact that she doesn't is more than enough proof that she stole it and doesn't want to admit it. Any self respecting writer would show ACTUAL proof. Not just rely on some internet dumb ass such as yourself pledging their undying love for her.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
And seeing as how YOU are the moron who believes EVERYTHING that celebrities like her says, then I say if anything YOU have to prove to ME that she DIDN'T steal the movie. Am I supposed to believe you JUST because you say you know for a fact and the time line doesn't contradict? Sorry but the time frame doesn't help her case OR yours. And you're obviously an ill minded invalid with an unhealthy obsession with her. So you'll excuse me if I don't believe in your so called "Facts".
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
In fact let's look at the comparison.
In the opening credits in Juno, the female lead walks through town to get to the drug store to buy a home pregnancy test, the opening credits end and Juno takes the test in the store's bathroom.
Just before Jenny/Juno's opening credits, Jenny takes the home pregnancy test in her bathroom, and once the credits roll, Jenny rides a bike through town.
In the opening credits for both movies, the fonts appear to be written with crayons.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
In fact here's a little more.
Both Juno and Jenny take the over-the-counter pregnancy test exactly three times.
Essentially, both movies start in the same narrative time perspective and the actual "deed" that creates the pregnancy is told in a flashback, not in the linear order of the story telling.
Both male leads appear indecisive and weak in the beginning but have inner strength that's appreciated later.
But I am sure this is ALL just one huge misunderstanding.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Now is this concrete evidence? No, but you know what? it's more than what YOU have. And that's not fact. Also by your logic if I were to write a movie script about a hero who dresses up as a bat and fights crimes and calls himself...Batguy then that wouldn't be plagerism right? And don't you worry because everyone around ME agrees that I wrote this WAY before I heard of batman. And they're not just saying that because they're trying to save their own ass either. I did NOT get this from Batman.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Listen, shit for brains, you have nothing for your case but a few weak coincidences. "Juno" is about adoption. The primary location is the home of the adoptive parents. No adoption plot exists in "Jeni, Juno".
On my side, I was reading her blog, the blogs and comments of the journalists she worked with while this was happening, and even exchanged a few messages with her ex-husband. I know it was written before "Jeni, Juno". Prove it wasn't or shut the fuck up.
Faustus5 2 years ago
Anything that I have here automatically trumps any made up or forged evidence that you, or anyone of her ill minded, unintelligent moronic fanbase can come up with. As far as I have NOTHING on my case, I sure as hell have a whole lot more than YOU and the rest of the Diablo Cody fantards have.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Also there IS an adoption plot that exist in Jenny/Juno. Maybe if you weren't an unintelligent, half with fucktard who believes everything that hack tells you, you might actually SEE her for the fraud she is. But no, you're the typical hollywood brainwashed retard that believes everything she says. Again that's NOT proof. That's you being the mindless Cody drone you are allowing yourself to be bamboozeled by an otherwise talentless writer. Maybe you should actually SEE Jenny Juno first...
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
And OBVIOUSLY that journalist is going to agree with cody and make up those blog comments. I wouldn't be surprised if Cody actually PAID a journalist to work with her. Thats not proof. That's still someone else on her side trying to save their own image. Again anyone who's worked with her would try to cover up their own ass so they can save face and say that they didn't work with someone who is a work stealing cunt.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Again you DON'T know it was written before Jenny/Juno because if you did you'd have actual PROOF that it was written before said movie. everything you've stated is a their word against ours situation. You have nothing on your side. If anything, the stuff I stated is more PROOF than the evidence you have. I use the word evidence loosely because you have none, for someone who talks about bringing up evidence, you seem to have a problem doing so. Could it be that...you have no evidence?
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
So again the burden of proof is on YOU and Cody. Not us. We have more evidence and "coincidences" to make an accusation while you have more or less, Cody's word and the word of anyone affiliated with her. Also there's a LOT more than what I've stated earlier. That was just a small sampling. I was being kind to you. So why don't YOU prove that it wasn't copied or just piss off. Better yet don't. I find your attempts mildly amusing.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
You don't have any evidence, shit for brains. All you have is a conspiracy theory with nothing to back it up but a few meaningless coincidences.
The part that especially made me laugh was the idea that she paid the entire staff of City Pages, including her boss, noted film critic Rob Nelson, to lie about her having written the movie in 2004 when she worked there.
You make about as much sense as a Holocaust denier, shit for brains.
Faustus5 2 years ago
I have more evidence than you. Do YOU have any sort of proof that it was just a freak coincidence? That she just happened to just stumble on the same concept and that she just HAPPENED to Americanize an idea that was already conceived by a Korean film maker?
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
What I find rather amusing on your end is that you actually believe EVERYTHING this hack is telling you, yet you can't find the evidence to back it up for shit. No paper work, no official document, just a few words and a nice made up story by her former employers. Of course they are going to go along with that lie. You think an entire journalist staff wants their credibility shot because they found out that they were working with a thief all along. Of course they would lie.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
That's like saying Johnny Cochran would come clean about the OJ Simpson case that literally gave him world wide fame. Of course they were going to go along with the lie.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Also the fact that you noted a film critic as a notable source is just too funny. I mean really. Film critics? People who are literally paid to BS their way throughout their entire career? And you're noting HIM as a reliable source? But because he was affiliated with Cody automatically means it's so right? You're about as deluded as an obsessed OJ Simpson fan who's still thinks OJ's innocent.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Your idiocy is your own undoing. And as I stated before, if anyone here is the real Shit for brains it's you...lol film critic. That was just too funny.
In all honesty you have nothing. No notable source, no hard evidence to back you up, no official documentation not even a copy of the rough draft that was DATED back when she allegedly "Wrote" Juno.
And those "meaningless coincidences" as you claim have a LOT more in common and are just TOO coincidental to be brushed off. Face it, you lost.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Sure, cupcake.
An entire staff of journalists is going to support a lie rather than make international news with a huge story. All it would take is one of them to break ranks.
Plus, she's so smart to have organized a conspiracy such that not one person makes a statement that contradicts the claimed timeline, smart enough to be blogging writing a movie before the one she steals from is even out, but she's dumb enough to copy a character name.
What a drooling idiot.
Faustus5 2 years ago
You still have no proof except someone's unproven word that she didn't do it, coaxed with a group of people who are about as credible as Fox News. Seems like you're the one with the issue of providing evidence. can you be any more of a bumbling contradicting idiot?
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
She wouldn't be the first one to try and cover up her tracks and she wouldn't be the last. Again this is just more idiotic ramblings from some obsessive Juno and Diablo Cody fanbot that they would rather see her get away with the lie that support REAL writing talent.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Also is it really that unbelievable that a corrupted journalist staff would lie about working with a hack just to save their own name? This isn't the first time a talentless hack had to cover up her own misdoings. And it's really NOT that hard to make up a lie and some piss ant story to make yourself more believable. Politicians do it all the time. Hell even news anchors and so called TV journalists do it. It's really not that hard to make up story and have people stick with it.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
And she copied MORE than just the name. It's the name, similar premise, even the filming style. So yeah, aparently she is dumb enough to copy more than just a name. You're right about that. Her cockiness got the best of her and frankly your own case of chronic stupidity allows you to believe such BS. I'd insult you for being the mind numbing, bumbling and stumbling invalid that you are, truth is, I feel sorry that you put your faith into someone who's only talent is that she's a "good" liar.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Oh, so now you've added corruption to an entire first rate staff of journalists to support your dumb conspiracy. Yep, you are nuts.
And ain't it amazing that she'd blog about making a movie before the one she copies is even out?
If they are so similar, tell me what happens to the adoptive parents in "Jeni, Juno"? What are their names?
Oh, and why haven't the Korean filmmakers sued, or even complained?
(BTY, directors dictate movie style, not writers. So now he must be in on it, too!)
Faustus5 2 years ago
So then according to YOU, corruption and lies don't exist then right? I mean since you consider a group of people who go along with a liar like Diablo Cody is first rate, then I can say the same about Fox news or even something as trite as MTV news. They don't get their facts mixed up at all. You're one sad deluded fool.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
You have no independent evidence they are corrupt, it's merely an illusion you have to maintain to support your nutcase conspiracy.
She spent her career at the paper and 90% of her blogging focused on her pop culture interests, and never once did she show the slightest interest in Asian culture on any level. Only an Asian film fan would know anything about an insignificant Korean teen movie months before it was released.
Tell me more about the all-important adoption plot in "Jeni, Juno".
Faustus5 2 years ago
You are aware that Evidence IS meant to be covered up? Since this is a pretty LARGE group of people, it's pretty easy to cover up. Again you're just a fool who has no idea how to spot a hack when she sees one.
And seeing as how she spent her career at the paper and did a lot of Blogging, it's pretty easy to find information of unreleased asian cinema. Again they have access to sources that the public doesn't have. You have no proof that she didn't copy the movie and you're still a moron.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Burden of proof is still on you, idiot. If it were even possible to make a case, you could have, and the Korean director would have sued or at least made a stink about it. Unlike you, he's got a brain.
Why can't you tell me about the adoption plotline in "Jeni, Juno"? Do the parents divorce? It's the most important part about "Juno", so how does it play in the film she copied? What's holding you back?
Faustus5 2 years ago
No it's always been on you, you brain moron. I have made a case and I proved it. Again it's up to YOU to actually prove ME wrong with solid evidence. You have none and yous till chose to live in this world of obvious ignorance. maybe if you weren't a simpleton with the common sense of a lump of coal you'd see just how much of stealing hack you are. The burden of PROOF is on you seeing as how you claim to know her or you've been following her.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Again you've shown me NOTHING except the fact that you're a mindless invalid that believies everything and anything you hear on the internet. Unlike you, I have the common sense to see a hack when I see one and unlike YOU. I acutally USE my brain to read between the lines. Something you have yet to master.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
And the reason I am NOT telling you is because once again the burden PROOF is still on YOU. Like I said before, changing some stuff around here and there is a good way to cover something up. Still doesn't change the fact she stole the script. Why can't YOU prove to me that she didn't? Huh I mean if you know for a FACT that she didn'y and had some hard documents or proof to back up yourstatement then we wouldn't be having this conversation. But alas you're just another fanbot idiot with no proof.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
We both know that the reason you can't tell me anything about the adoption plot in "Jeni, Juno" is because there isn't one.
We both know that since adoption is the main theme of "Juno" and not a theme of "Jeni,Juno" at all, that your plagiarism idea falls to pieces. This isn't a minor difference, it is a major difference. The adoptive father gets more screen time than the father of her kid.
That's why the makers of "Jeni,Juno", being smarter and saner than you, haven't raised complaints.
Faustus5 2 years ago
Again you are the victim of your own ignorance. It seems your deluded mindset doesn't allow you to see things there. I didn't mention the adoption plot in Jenny/Juno because I was waiting for YOU to prove to ME that it is NOT. Which you still have yet to do. I wonder why you are holding back on that. I think it's because deep down inside you know what kind of hack Cody is.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Maybe if you weren't such an insipid little fool you'd see that there IS actually a plot dealing with adoption. Albeit smaller, a plot none the less which deals with Jenny's older sister in America.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
It's a smaller minor subplot, but fit's what's considered acceptable in Korean society. Koreans believe in intra-family adoption, but not yet in inner-family adoption. Jenny's mother was going to send Jenny to America, where her older sister, married, would adopt Jenny's baby. So yeah there is a plot dealing with adoption in the movie.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Cody merely just shifted the adoption angle into a larger setting. She just merely took the minor subplot of the adoption angle in Jenni Juno and turned it into a much larger one. Since you aren't smart enough to figure stuff out on your own, that's plagiarism. Which pretty much solidifies my argument much more and pretty much shoots down your BS tomfoolery.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Also by your logic, if a different character gets more screen time than the other character, than that's not copying someone else huh? OK then, well by your logic, if my character bat guy, had a loyal family butler working for him who just happens to be from England and had more screen time than that OTHER butler from that OTHER movie about a man dressed up as a bat and fights crime, then it's OK and it's NOT plagiarizing someone else right? You're so mentally inept it's not even funny.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
The films have entirely different plots, period.
Adoption is the main focus of one, carrying a baby to term with support is the focus of the other (and in the first, support isn't even a question).
Other than one character name and teen pregnancy, there is nothing significant in common between the two.
Case closed. This is why only nutcases like you push this theory and you never hear it from the people who made "Jeni, Juno". They have sanity and intelligence you clearly lack.
Faustus5 2 years ago
I listed SEVERAL similarities and "conisidences" that you obviously chose to ignore. And not only that I listed the adoption bit IN Jenny/Juno that Diablo Cody merely pushed to the front center of the movie script.
And it just so happens to be that BOTH titles were similar as well as the plot about teen pregnancy not to mention the OBVIOUS similarities that Juno ripped off of? Sorry but just because some mentally retarded and unintelligent Juno Fanbot says it's different doesn't mean squat.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Honestly you can end this RIGHT now and prove me wrong with some REAL factual evidence. Sorry but saying "they have different plots, period" means nothing to me. Obviously your lack of intelligence prevents you from giving me the evidence i ask for.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Sorry, the burden of proof is still upon you since no legal body anywhere on the planet thinks the film was a rip off, and neither do the makers of "Jeni, Juno". You are just a lone crack pot on the net with a crazy conspiracy theory and no proof.
The two films are not similar in any significant way, you haven't proven they are, and everyone involved or close to it agrees "Juno" was written in late 2004, making plagiarism impossible.
Now go take your psyche meds. You need them badly.
Faustus5 2 years ago
Again obviously everyone that is INVOLVED with Cody will agree that it was written in late 2004. Obviously friends DO cover up for each other. And where is YOUR proof that it isn't? I asked Many times for you to prove me wrong. Yet you can't do so. I take it that you've never seen the movie because anyone who has would note the potent similarities. Again you fail to prove your case because you're just some idiot supporting a talentless hack.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
And seeing as how you overlooked the fact that I even ADDRESSED the adoption bit in Jenny Juno, it's obvious that YOU are the one with no evidence.
Honestly you say all this burden of proof being on me, but if you had ANY evidence that the two were NOT in any ways related to each other (despite the evidence against you) yet you show me nothing. Why are you so afraid to prove me wrong? I think it's because you can't prove me wrong because you HAVE no evidence.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Also just to further prove my point. Here are few MORE examples.
1. In the opening credits in Juno, the female lead walks through town to get to the drug store to buy a home pregnancy test, the opening credits end and Juno takes the test in the store's bathroom. Just before Jenny/Juno's opening credits, Jenny takes the home pregnancy test in her bathroom, and once the credits roll, Jenny rides a bike through town.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Both Juno and Jenny take the over-the-counter pregnancy test exactly three times.
In the opening credits for both movies, the fonts appear to be written with crayons.
Both Juno and Jenny take the over-the-counter pregnancy test exactly three times.
Essentially, both movies start in the same narrative time perspective and the actual "deed" that creates the pregnancy is told in a flashback, not in the linear order of the story telling.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
In Jenny/Juno, part of what helps Jenny make up her mind is a pro-life book written in Korean. In Juno, part of what affects Juno's decision is a Pro-Life advocate who happens to be an Asian girl.
In Jenny/Juno, the male lead writes in chalk for Jenny I love you Jenny In Juno," the female lead writes in chalk on Bleeker's front step Check the mail Bleeker and what's in the mail box is a sign that Juno loves him.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
There is a scene in Jenny/Juno where the male lead runs track for PE class and shows how much of a goof he is by comically bumping into a post. Something that showed a striking stylistic similarity to Juno's boyfriend in that he's both a goof and on the track team.
Both movies have a girl who's interested in the male leads at about midpoint in the movie and this creates an intense, but short burst of jealously by the female leads.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
They are different I will give you that. Juno giving the baby up for adoption while in Jenny/Juno they keep the baby. The adoption part IS and I will admit a larger part in Juno (despite that they could have easily gotten it from the source movie. Juno is the name of Ellen PAge's character while Min-ji Park's character is named Jenny. But the similarities i mentioned have a little TOO much in common. But I'm sure it's all just a misunderstanding. Cause Cody is SOO original.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Again you can easily prove me wrong with a simple shred of evidence. YOu can prove me wrong by showing me SOMETHING hell ANYTHING that resembles an official document or hard evidence. Instead of telling ME that I have to show proof, why don't you actually take the initiative and show ME proof.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Everything you've cited is an insignificant coincidence formed by the common starting points of both movies--teen pregnancy. For instance, a female friend of mine in high school did the same thing Juno and Jeni did--she went to the drug store and bought tests several times, then went home each time.
The conspiracy theory you require is massively improbable since it require large numbers of people lying against their own interests. Superficial coincidence makes more sense to sane people.
Faustus5 2 years ago
So then all teen Pregnancy movies require people to take a pregnancy test three times? I mean it just so HAPPENS to be three times in each movie? Not to mention that ALL male leads in the move are insecure that spout off made up catch phrases. Not to mention that all teenage pergnancy movies all have opening credits in which the fonts are in crayons?
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
As I said, multiple tests in the face of denial is an obvious device, and it happens in reality. 3 is just the right number psychologically (it's how many my friend had before she accepted reality).
And as I explained, the opening credit style was an option suggested by the credit sequence company Reitman uses, not the script. He discusses this in the DVD commentary. Given the timing, it is possible that THEY and not Cody were inspired in this by "Jeni, Juno". But highly unlikely.
Faustus5 2 years ago
No but it;s rather convenient for them to just HAPPEN to stumble on so many similarities right? Considering that most people who WORK for Cody is shady at best, it;s hardly believable.
And as I explained, that's just one of the MANY to convenient mishaps that happened. That's like Carlos Mencia saying he's not ripping off other comedians, despite the fact that he's almost repeated similar skits from people like Bill Cosby, almost down to a T. Again, Cody is just a good liar. Nothing more.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
I guess you've never watched any life time network movies then. Because a LOT of those movies that have aired on that network do NOT follow this formula.
And it's quite possible that a LOT of people are lying to save face. Oh wait, then again you, along with the massive sheep of people just believe everything you hear then. Alright gotcha. I understand.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
There is no sense whatsoever in which the entire staff of a paper would need to lie to save face. They wouldn't lose any face by telling the truth, only by lying and getting caught, idiot.
In fact, they would score a fantastic international story by calling her out when they saw her saying she wrote it in 2004 and they knew she wrote it sometime after Feb of 2005.
Same for her ex-husband, who had already divorced her when he openly supported her story on the IMDB. He had nothing to gain.
Faustus5 2 years ago
No they would lose a LOT more than that. Consorting with a liar AND admitting to doing so would lose their credibility AS a news source you moron.
They would be renowned as staff who would forever be branded as someone who supported the works of a liar and a thief. it's what happened to fox news, and they're one of the most laughable news sources out there.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
The fact that lying to support her would hurt their credibility is an argument AGAINST your dumb-ass conspiracy theory, Shit for Brains. They have no reason to do so, and every reason to expose her.
You aren't just an idiot, you really are utterly without reason: you are nuts.
Faustus5 2 years ago
Actually it's not seeing as how their staff would have MORE to lose than any one else. And it's also possible that they were paid off seeing as how Cody is successful in that monetary sense now and seeing as how she WANTS to cover up her tracks, it's pretty obvious what's going on.Seeing as how you are too stupid to actually provide some sort of PROOF that she didn't well that's to be expected of someone to support a liar. I wouldn't be surprised if she paid YOu off to defend her tooth and nail.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
The very fact that you'd now be suggesting I'm part of the conspiracy shows what a completely childish nut you are. Have you even graduated from grade school yet?
There are no amazing coincidences between the two films, only minor coincidences most of which are easily explainable as being part of some shared plot points. The movies are more different than similar.
That's why there's never been a lawsuit or complaints from the Korean filmmakers. They are rational, you are batshit crazy.
Faustus5 2 years ago
I wouldn't be surprised if you were. Seeing as how Diablo Cody attracts those mindless idiots who can't think for them selves, It really wouldn't be a shock if you were.
And the those "amazing coincidences" i listed ARE what they are. Again you chose NOT to see that and you chose NOT to look at whats in front of you. just like the typical Diablo Cody fanbot you are. And like I said, it's ok. I;ve peace with the fact that you are a mentally deluded fanbot.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
No, Shit for Brains, those coincidences aren't amazing at all. That's why the only people who think "Juno" was a rip off are lonely nutcases in obscure corners of the internet--losers like you.
Normal people just see some easily explainable coincidences, and when faced with the improbable conspiracy theory alternative, they do the rational, sane thing and accept that "Juno" was an original script.
That's the reason why there have been no lawsuits or even complaints from the makers of J,J.
Faustus5 2 years ago
Actually they are. Again you're not seeing this through a SMART person's mindset. You;re seeing this through YOUR mindset. IE the mindset of a ill minded retarded who can;t think for them selves. The similarities are outright obvious as well as the "coincidences"
Again this rules you out seeing as you are the opposite of normal intelligence. These are easily explainable coincidences, if they were you'd be proving me wrong right now.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Also the definition of "Normal" is preceding all others in time or being as first made or performed. So no this is NOT normal. And those coincidences are easily explained. I'll give you that. And the explanation is she stole them. I've given you examples and you have yet to counter any of them with nothing but this "She says its not so" BS.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
You are a lonely , weird, nutcase on the Internet, that's all you are, that's all you will ever be.
Sane people, rational people, understand that that there is no conspiracy.
Faustus5 2 years ago
in other words, what you're saying is "Bla bla bla bla, BS BS BS, I'm too much of a lemming to think for my self. I believe everything that comes out of Diablo Cody's ass. No matter how absurd it is and despite the evidence against her."
Gotcha.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Except you have no evidence against her, and to counter my consistent testimonial evidence that she wrote it before anyone had seen "Jeni, Juno", you have to invent an insane conspiracy theory that no rational person would believe.
To think the two movies are similar enough to suggest plagiarism is a clear case of cinematic pareidolia (you don't know what that means, I know).
Feel free to have the last word. You've done your best, and you lost. I'm done wasting time with an idiot like you.
Faustus5 2 years ago
Testimonial evidence is just another fancy way of saying BS. Because the crap you have listed is anything BUT evidence. The fact that you take her WORD isnt proving anything. Because anyone can make ANY claim over the internet without a SHREAD of poof. Again the time line IS in my favor seeing as how you HAVE no proof of Juno being written before 2005, WHEN Jenny/Juno came out. In fact you didnt even WATCH Jenny/Juno. You called the female lead JUNO in the Jenny/Juno movie. So yeah.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
What I stated was factual evidence which you chocked up to a coincidence. In fact that so called coincidence as you claim happen WAY too many times to be just a mere coincidence. Either youre an idiot, or you suffer a harsh case of mental absurdity, Id go with a combination of the two.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
Fact is you still failed to prove anything while I on the other had provided more evidence than you did. Again seeing as how you an imbecile (the laughable way you used the term pareidolia ) you dont see your own obvious defeat in this. You failed to prove anything, except her WORD which is nothing.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
If your own delusions makes you see this as a "Victory", then so be it. But youre just a sad little fangirl who hangs onto Codys every word like she was the next coming of Christ. If anyone is suffering a sever case of cinematic pareidolia its you for your laughable notion that Juno was actually an original concept. So until you can actually PROVE me wrong, you lost.
PS: Your efforts was chump change at best. It would be amusing if it wasn't for your horrific Fanbot behavior.
SupernaturallyBAMed2 2 years ago
There's nothing insane about the fact that she's a good liar. The only insane notion here is that you think her script is original when in fact you're just some loser fanbot with no real explanation on how she did NOT steal it.
The REASON why there is no lawsuit or even a complaint is because, like I said, they refuse to acknowledge the existence of a hack. Like the Bill Cosby Carlos Mencia bit. You're just a foolish self deluded loser that believes everything she hears from celebrities.
SupernaturallyBAMed2