Tuning up a setar, lesson one طرز کوک سه تار و تار

[yesfarshid]

Thanks so much for this video. It is pretty useful for me actually.

[azjohn1028]

this helped me

:)

[breakingthe4thwall]

Technically CGCC is very similar open c guitar tuning. Though it may not be appropriate for the instrument, it would not be difficult to play western music on the instrument.

[goodcyrus]

@breakingthe4thwall yes that is true. The true open tuning on a guitar is an E chord. I have always avoided alternate tunings on the guitar but thanks to your comment I began persifying my guitar by opening the tuning and fiddling with it.

[breakingthe4thwall]

@goodcyrus Yes, I play my guitars in the open E and D tunings. They are underrated.

[maryam9765]

Hello, I am living in NZ and have no access to teacher, and I am not very good in Setar to tune only with sounds. Is it possible to use guitar tuner to tune Setar? Thank you very much

[suzidil33]

Hello.

I'm getting confused between rast and chap stroke on setar.

I'm just beginning learning with Alizadeh method, but not being sure of which one is the downstroke.

May you precise me?

Thank you for your help.

[GoodLuckJersey]

where do u teach?

[goodcyrus]

@GoodLuckJersey

I don't teach. I neither play nor teach too well even when I try.

[GoodLuckJersey]

Where do u teach?

[gullwing556]

this is very helpful

[Essi646]

ba dorood agar farsi ham tadris konid sepasgozar khaham bod

[TheRogueMonk]

where can i find step for step instruction for tune it.

[TheRogueMonk]

this is not enough for me i can tune a guitar but i did not understand this.

[goodcyrus]

This is a bit of ear training. This video tries to teach folks how to train their ears and what an out-of-tune sound, sounds like.

[TheRogueMonk]

@goodcyrus i tuned it with online tuner...

can you teach me how to actually play ? its ott like a guitar ...

[TheRogueMonk]

i dont understand what you use to tune the first string?

[goodcyrus]

Just use the sound you hear in this video or use any other source (piano, tuner, dial tone on a phone etc) as a reference tone to tune the bass string. as long as you don't break a the string.

[66liberty]

Hi

Thank you for your videos. could please teach as well after tuning. first lesson of learning setar what should be. and whst we should exercise first.

i am not sre if you taught this already as i could not find your video in you tube.

Unfortunately i do not have access to teacher.

and this videos wil be the only source for me.

but thanks for your times and sharing your knowledge.

[goodcyrus]

Take a look at my youtube page and I have a long **playlist** for setar lessons. look up my other friends as well.  they have nice clips as well.

[Apalon99]

Ba man jur kardani tor darkor ast!

Mne nujno nastroyka tara!

i need tar tuning!

men tar yakhshi kerak !

ich velz tar gut .....

[Essi646]

dorood az zahamate shoma .gonahe ma chist ke inglish nemidonim mishe lotf konin farsi ham amozesh bedin?

[aminuk23]

dadash to englis setaro az koja bekharam?

[PAYAMhayebazargani]

HI and thanx for your lessons about the Setar i have a request can you learn a easy ans slow music for first practis I want just save this in my mind because I dont have time to learning just I want practis one easy music then i can play this thanx you. :) because iam not in Iran

[muffinsforkanami]

does anyone know the best website to buy a setar? I live no where near where you could purchase one in person :p

so I have to buy one online..

[ausart]

Where can I purchase the four strings and how do I string it up? Please make a video. Thanks!

[ply318]

Great video

Im going to Iran this summer, can you tell me how much is a decent setar??

[highmountainsman]

I bought mine from a friend, a good setar too, for about $150. while you are there,find a Setar teacher and show him the instrument which you like to buy and ask him how much he'd pay for the setar you are interested in to buy or take someone who knows with you to Bazaar to help you find you a good one.

[dnkhosro]

hi do you have a cd to buy for learning setar i am 14 years old and my baba got me a setar from iran i need cd to learn it faster the cd he got from iran is not working tell me where can i buy it from in US thanks thanks thanks

[moridemolana]

Tashakor az ein tadris khob khili estfadeh kardam shad bashid

[NimaSun]

I would love to see a santur version..

[filsoofimusic]

hahaha I just heard ur dog is barking in the middle of tunning....that's so funny pesar

[mirarostodo]

Hi I just bought a setar and I am going to see if I can learn something with these lessons on youtube.

I just love traditional iranian music!

Assalam'u aleikum wa rahmatu' allahi wa barakatu, Khodahafez

[gachsaransena]

hi dear goodcyrus,

it was usefull but if only it was in persian lanuage too, cuz of my and others cant understand eng very good.

have good time pleaz send me reply at imanmahmoudinasab@ g m a i l. com(no space, jast 4 spams!)

[daryagol]

Thank you Cyrus for your lessons. Are you close to Orange County and do you provide private lessons?

[goodcyrus]

I am in LA and unfortunately don't give lessons.

[wigwamSixty3isback]

Is there a website that can teach you how to play the setar?

[highmountainsman]

You can find Setar learning Books and CD's by Ostad Hossein Alizadeh on the web.

[sean7431]

Besyar mamnoon! Ahsant!

[Ducktowners]

thanks Cyrus, do you know anything about a Saz? Is a Saz tuned anything like this 'Setar'?

I have a Saz but don't know anything about it

[filsoofimusic]

good job

[Quantum19]

Salam,

The 3rd string in your Setar is not placed where it should be: it should much closer to the 4th string. (That is why it is called "Sim-e Vakhoon").The way it is you will be limited in reproducing a variety of important sounds with your instrument. Also, is it said thst 2nd string should be cutting the fingerboard's width in half. This enables you to play neatly on the 2nd string without touching the other strings. I wonder if you had moved your strings to better present your tuning.

[Meaneradicator]

Excellent observation. I wonder if Goodcyrus plays his setar as shown, or moves the strings around when playing for real.

[goodcyrus]

I don't believe there is any such black and white rules about it.

[Quantum19]

Well, there is no black and white rule. But I did mention 2 reasons for my argument: you will simply be limited in reproducing important sounds with the 3rd string to be so far way from the 4th. (There are several physical reasons here: e.g., there is a lag time in striking both 3rd and 4th.) Also, since the 2nd string is going be too close to the 1st, playing just the 2nd string (which is required often) will not be as comfortable.

[goodcyrus]

To me, there is no technical limitation or asthetic advantage in changing the string layout. I much prefer to play the instrument as you see it in the video. I don't enjoy the sound of the double strings but you are free to make your own technical and aesthtic decisions. Your layout may be easier for the novice beginner.

[Quantum19]

You certainly have a point here in that you might have a different taste in placing the strings. But I also must add that I have had the rare chance of studying in a few master classes by Ostad Lotfi, and have been in the presence of Ostad Alizdaeh. Among other details, I specifically inquired about the strings layout and this is what they more or less suggested. Again you might have a different taste in tone production but I truly enjoy the sound production on these masters' Setar.

[goodcyrus]

Look up "Fallacy by Appeal to Authority." I may enjoy Ebaady, but to get his sound without his physicality, mind-set and fantastic instruments made for him, I may have to play differently. So i may as try to create my own sound with what I have. Hope this helps and i wish you good luck. maybe you should post something to demonstrate the various effects you're mentioning.

[doc3tar]

thank u :)