I swear that's Andrew Batty sat next to Martin !!?? Another amazingly bright but flawed human being..Did my first ever recording sesh' with Andy..back at Spirit studio's in the mid 80's..Wow..takes me back !! Peace! RX
R.I.P Martin Hannett, genius producer, Tony Wilson who helped establish Manchester as a musical haven, and Ian Curtis ... genius performer and master songwriter.
'Playing the off beats with a good deal of vigour' LOL - When Wilson asks the question at the end you can see its all that Hannett can do not to say 'oh do fuck off you complete arsehole'
Probably fails to explain the art of mixing to the average viewer. A nutter under the influence not really answering questions. Historical clip though.
Perhaps I should have written ..."The TRUE genius of the factory records sound." That would have been my hair-splitting accurate appraisal.
Most people only listen to the final product, not delve into the complex inner workings of an entire organization - I'm not knocking on 23 Envelope, either, lol!
Can we agree that Martin was the most obvious force of the final product of Factory Records - i.e. - the music?
This is the missing link. While the kids over on the Joy Division channel wring their hands about Ian Curtis and his suicide and the reason and poetic implications, the star crossed lovers were Hannet and Curtis. Too bad Tony is dead, the others will never own up to it. You only have to listen to the music they made!!!!
I cannot find this track ANYWHERE...! It's not on itunes/spotify/amazon etc at all! Do you know where it can be found?! I'm a CD kinda person, but will settle for anything :-) Cheers
@siderealxxx The Visitor is a hard bugger to find. It's on the 10" of A Murray single called "Searching For Heaven", an entirely Hannett release. It might be on the CD rerelease of Murray's eponymous debut album 10 yrs ago. Not sure. Check out the Mr X video on You Tube for another classic Hannett album production. Also Blue In Heaven's Sometimes and The Names "Nightshift".
Thank you very, very much for putting this up. I am an aspiring amateur studio engineer/wannabe producer and Martin Hannett is a major inspiration for me. It's good to see a snippet of him at work, even if it's only explaining the basics to punters in TV land.
This is indeed. I actually saw him once in Manchester in 1982, but he was very drunk in a bar. I was only 18 then. But his method of work was legendary - a brilliant legacy left to many Sound Engineers to follow to this day. But like most briiliant people, the air of self destruction is seldom far away.
@donnybrooklads Martin Hannett producing Joy Division is one of the milestones in British poular music for sure. It was the right band, with the right matierial, recorded by a talented man with a vision, at the right time. The sound he created for them was completely original and widely copied (early U2 hits like 'i will follow' recorded by Steve lillywhite).Genius is a word used far too often nowadays though. I think the only real case for a genius in music the last 50 years was Hendrix.
I love Hannett desperately trying to restrain himself from calling Wilson a c*** when asked if he's just a technician. No, Tony, he's a genius as you told us yourself many a time. RIP the both of you.
It's a source of immense local pride that all this was happening about a mile or so from where I live in Stockport. I wonder how many people walk past the non-descript building and don't realise what legendary events happened at the former Strawberry Studios.
And over the road from Strawberry studios is a green mound. This was a great little cluband disco in the 1960s,...known first as the Tabernacle, and then Sgt Peppers. Tony used to go there. Masses of 1960s muscians appeared there...Jimi Hendrix, CAT STEVENS, Pink Floyd, Amen Corner/Love Affair,etc.. You would never know. Whereas in Liverpool, the Cavern(rebuilt), is a permanent monument to the 1960s. You can still feel the aura as you walk past!!
The LP was Pauline Murray's Invisible Girls from 1980. Chris Nagle is next to Martin, though someone said he looks like Stone Roses guitarist John Squire
As stated above, it's 'The Visitor' from the three track ep including tracks 'Searching for Heaven' and 'Animal Crazy' released in 1981 on Illusive. (IVEX 3) Robert Blamire Bass, Wayne Hussey Guitar, Steve Hopkins Keyboard, John Maher Drums.
Martin Hannett es el dios de los productores musicales. Valoro en gran manera la música de manera distinta desde que escuché Joy Division por primera vez.
Thanks for sharing this interesting piece of the history of music.
I have always loved these big mixing desks and the tape machines to go with them. It's a shame it's all HDD now, even though the producers like Martin (RIP) would disagree.
The song is "Visitor" by Pauline Murray & the Invisible Girls, who featured Hannett on bass. This clip is worth the world to me as a Hannett freak. Thanks so much for posting it!!!
No, Robert Blamire (former mate of Pauline Murray in Penetration) was on bass. However, the single is the best disc for the Invisible Girls era of Pauline and, seeing Martin explaining and making his things in the studio, can motivate me to buy that production machines.
Interesting that he mentioned 'Wayne's guitar' near the start, I thought Wayne Hussey was only on the post-album single Searching For Heaven, which this track isn't, obviously I was wrong!
check out the band 'suicide'. their first album released 1977 (3 years BEFORE this).
and i'm sure you could name a hundred songs that had a similar minimalistic bass drum beat to the song that came out between 1980 and eight to ten after... 'blue monday' is one off the top of my head.
great clip. i love the way tony tries to tease more in depth explanations from Martin, yet martin knows the average viewer is gonna have no idea as to what he's bangin' on about.
The best thing about this video's that its like one of those naff science videos you used to have to watch in school ("Confused?! you will be"), but it comprises of two absolute ledgends. I almost cant beleive its on the internet.
Read the book on Hannett, listened to everything he did, now I finally have a voice/face to go with the myth. I didnt think this video existed, just seen him playing bass on cooper clarke vids.
Thanks for your comments and the correction. The Betamax tape this clip was from had 1983 scribbled on it - but it was a collection of a few things. I knew it was early 80's. I'll correct it to July '80. All the best
Me too (I knew I had the tape somewhere). I can remember the very first time I saw Martin. He was standing at the bottom of the stairs in UMIST Union about 1968/9 I think. Bob Dylan Blonde on Blonde hair, centre of attention. Seeing him being so Martin on the tape (sort of 'what's the camera doing here, oh I suppose I'll have to carry on with this...' reminded me just how he was. Most of my Beta tapes are a bit perished, but luckily not this one...
It's earlier than 1983, the Pauline Murray LP came out in 1981 I think. But its thrilling - one of very few recordings of Hannett and the only one I know on video. One of the greatest ever producers!
I swear that's Andrew Batty sat next to Martin !!?? Another amazingly bright but flawed human being..Did my first ever recording sesh' with Andy..back at Spirit studio's in the mid 80's..Wow..takes me back !! Peace! RX
Waitingforriki 2 months ago
@Waitingforriki He says "engineer Christpher Nagel (sp?)" at the very end but he might mean the engineer for that bit of film. Not sure.
Rydo182 3 weeks ago
4 band EQ... free with the desk!
djshaunee 2 months ago
1:15-1:20 his voice is so fuken sexy
lizazp92 4 months ago
Martin Hannett...truly an enigma, and the only bloke I ever knew who put weight on taking smack. RIP, and you Tony.
GhibliFan1 6 months ago
Oh and a bag of fucking shite too. John Squire and the Roses pissed all over this shit. Fucking bobbins.
TheSnowbalIEarth 9 months ago
@TheSnowbalIEarth Eh?
Rydo182 3 weeks ago
Twenty years since he passed away, 18 April 1991. RIP, Martin.
TheSnowballEarth 9 months ago
I remember that control room - it used to have stone cladding even in the late 80s
neuroffender 10 months ago
Good to hear his opinions on the snare drum. Thought it was just me that had the snare twice as loud as everything else in the mix!
wattage2007 11 months ago
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seasidejohnson 1 year ago
Is it killing joke?
jonnytheoasisfan 1 year ago
Wilson is god, Hannett is god, Erasmus is god, Reilly is motherfucking god.
beowulven 1 year ago
@beowulven Rob Gretton is God
muttilo 1 year ago
Genius....only one word needed to describe the man, RIP
thenewtown 1 year ago
Nothing like his character made him out to be in 24 hour party people then, he was a Manc pisshead in that!
BobConanOwen 1 year ago
R.I.P Martin Hannett, genius producer, Tony Wilson who helped establish Manchester as a musical haven, and Ian Curtis ... genius performer and master songwriter.
petitemoineau 1 year ago 3
hmmmmmmm pretty dull, notice how wilson and hannett were still so cut up over ians suicide even 6 weeks after his death............
birdandthe 1 year ago
Its great to see footage of Martin Hannett, ive read about him, its good to put a face to the name.
MOONST0MP 1 year ago
martin hannett, rip.
MrBlairblack 1 year ago
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The Wayne mentioned at 0:44 is Wayne Hussey later of Dead Or Alive, The Sisters Of Mercy and The Mission!
andrewaboulton 1 year ago
The Wayne mentioned at 0:44 is Wayne Hussey later of Dead Or Alive, The Sisters Of Mercy and The Mission!
andrewaboulton 1 year ago
'Playing the off beats with a good deal of vigour' LOL - When Wilson asks the question at the end you can see its all that Hannett can do not to say 'oh do fuck off you complete arsehole'
fishybishbash 1 year ago
Probably fails to explain the art of mixing to the average viewer. A nutter under the influence not really answering questions. Historical clip though.
AndPlus 1 year ago
Does anyone know what month.year this was recorded?
mattah111 1 year ago
@mattah111
no, no-one knows.
thebrainsbehind 1 year ago
@mattah111
Clue is the title July 1980.
Not long after Ian's suicide
mattah111 1 year ago
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dezeehond999 1 year ago
R.I.P Martin Hannet and Tony Wilson
Squab1972 1 year ago
"Aright Wilson... WANKER!!"
Triplesod 1 year ago
@Triplesod 'Hello Hannet ya wanka!' lol
AttilatheMike 1 year ago
Martin was simply a conduit of sonic mysteries made audible for the rest of us. His vision has never been replicated...and never will be.
The TRUE genius of factory records.
fractaljack 2 years ago 5
TRUE genius detracts from the input of Tony and others. Martin played a massive part, but could not have done it alone.
Arai64 1 year ago
Perhaps I should have written ..."The TRUE genius of the factory records sound." That would have been my hair-splitting accurate appraisal.
Most people only listen to the final product, not delve into the complex inner workings of an entire organization - I'm not knocking on 23 Envelope, either, lol!
Can we agree that Martin was the most obvious force of the final product of Factory Records - i.e. - the music?
fractaljack 1 year ago
How about we agree that Martin was the 'Master Chef,' who had at his disposal some equally glorious ingredients which he blended to perfection?
Arai64 1 year ago
Agreed...how democratic of us!
fractaljack 1 year ago
Nah...that's Ainsley Harriot.
Salfordbluemoon 1 year ago
guys a genius !
thestoneroses29 2 years ago
For those interested I've uploaded the finished article.
Tatspunk 2 years ago
was that mick fleetwood at the start?
waynecannington 2 years ago
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muttilo 1 year ago
@waynecannington Gotta Be Mick Fleetwood Obliviouso his surrondings as always then ..bless em !
muttilo 1 year ago
Hannett, before the skagg and rot set in.
jkoff76 2 years ago
This is the missing link. While the kids over on the Joy Division channel wring their hands about Ian Curtis and his suicide and the reason and poetic implications, the star crossed lovers were Hannet and Curtis. Too bad Tony is dead, the others will never own up to it. You only have to listen to the music they made!!!!
princeblackie 2 years ago 2
What is this song? Is it Pauline Murray? If so which song? Thanks
siderealxxx 2 years ago
Yep, The Visitor.
Tatspunk 2 years ago
I cannot find this track ANYWHERE...! It's not on itunes/spotify/amazon etc at all! Do you know where it can be found?! I'm a CD kinda person, but will settle for anything :-) Cheers
siderealxxx 2 years ago
@siderealxxx The Visitor is a hard bugger to find. It's on the 10" of A Murray single called "Searching For Heaven", an entirely Hannett release. It might be on the CD rerelease of Murray's eponymous debut album 10 yrs ago. Not sure. Check out the Mr X video on You Tube for another classic Hannett album production. Also Blue In Heaven's Sometimes and The Names "Nightshift".
pkrpmusic 2 years ago
I have all the album in perfect quality MP3's, there is a torrent out there of it. Need more help just shout me.
AppleOfGlasgow 2 years ago
Pauline Murray - The Visitor:
It is available as part of a rare 80's albums torrent and also on YouTube. Need more help just shout.
AppleOfGlasgow 2 years ago
great archive footage.
Martin loved his echo!
Stereolabdream 2 years ago
thanks Martin. X
pittenweem12 2 years ago
Thank you very, very much for putting this up. I am an aspiring amateur studio engineer/wannabe producer and Martin Hannett is a major inspiration for me. It's good to see a snippet of him at work, even if it's only explaining the basics to punters in TV land.
SickyHampton 2 years ago 2
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT! This is a rare film of a genius at work!
simonguitarman 2 years ago 3
This is indeed. I actually saw him once in Manchester in 1982, but he was very drunk in a bar. I was only 18 then. But his method of work was legendary - a brilliant legacy left to many Sound Engineers to follow to this day. But like most briiliant people, the air of self destruction is seldom far away.
IntellectualAmy 2 years ago
Hannett seems like a very, very cool motherfucker...
augustusdes 2 years ago 2
I love the flick of the film at most of the cuts.
AppleOfGlasgow 2 years ago
theres a great book out about Martin's life...
gordonraphael 2 years ago
What's it called?
NH
SonofaReaperMan 2 years ago
Who Killed Martin Hannett?: The Story of Factory Records' Musical Magician by Colin Sharp
gordonraphael 2 years ago 3
This is magic - a master at work and Tony on top form as uninformed bumbling interviewer!
samduffysinger 2 years ago 2
"as it's name implies... something that opens and closes."
stevedebock 2 years ago 6
2 of the worlds greatest modern geniouses!
darthpaul 2 years ago 2
10 cc opened strawberry studios,
shaftsbury94 2 years ago
interesting fact, thanks, to bad i hate the beatles,
zpoyly 2 years ago
So do I. Great minds eh?
46lar 2 years ago
I wish Hannett and Wilson were still around today.
sacredcow1979mk2 2 years ago 4
Hannett total genius. Lillywhite trails in his smoke
donnybrooklads 2 years ago 14
@donnybrooklads Martin Hannett producing Joy Division is one of the milestones in British poular music for sure. It was the right band, with the right matierial, recorded by a talented man with a vision, at the right time. The sound he created for them was completely original and widely copied (early U2 hits like 'i will follow' recorded by Steve lillywhite).Genius is a word used far too often nowadays though. I think the only real case for a genius in music the last 50 years was Hendrix.
nelsano3 1 year ago
@nelsano3 - Hannett produced U2 before Lillywhite did!!! he produced the first version of "11 tick tock" under the alias Martin Zero......
gillesnewwave 8 months ago
@donnybrooklads to true. hannet is an enigma!
RobDistant 1 year ago
It's an Art form, Tony. lol
MolokoPlus1980 2 years ago
This was in '80 though. He got worse as time went on.
SalfordSam 2 years ago 2
after seeing this I'd say 24 hour party people showed hannett in a bad light. He doesn't seem like such a jerk
sleestack808 2 years ago 3
I love Hannett desperately trying to restrain himself from calling Wilson a c*** when asked if he's just a technician. No, Tony, he's a genius as you told us yourself many a time. RIP the both of you.
It's a source of immense local pride that all this was happening about a mile or so from where I live in Stockport. I wonder how many people walk past the non-descript building and don't realise what legendary events happened at the former Strawberry Studios.
Bowerfold 2 years ago 21
And over the road from Strawberry studios is a green mound. This was a great little cluband disco in the 1960s,...known first as the Tabernacle, and then Sgt Peppers. Tony used to go there. Masses of 1960s muscians appeared there...Jimi Hendrix, CAT STEVENS, Pink Floyd, Amen Corner/Love Affair,etc.. You would never know. Whereas in Liverpool, the Cavern(rebuilt), is a permanent monument to the 1960s. You can still feel the aura as you walk past!!
thiaanthony 2 years ago
@Bowerfold I wonder if he was an engineer.Apparently he actually Made some of the ambient sound machines and drum machines.I saw that in a JD doc.
kaliyuta 1 year ago
@Bowerfold
I live on the same road..there is still a sign up stating it is strawberry studios and i think also some dates
mrbenson235 1 year ago
i love them both, they are missed
L0K3 2 years ago
Hannett = Genius !
PierceRooney 2 years ago 2
The LP was Pauline Murray's Invisible Girls from 1980. Chris Nagle is next to Martin, though someone said he looks like Stone Roses guitarist John Squire
dimitrikissoff 2 years ago 4
@dimitrikissoff Nowt like John Squire, squire.
Dunno what Nagle looks like, so I'll take your word for it.
Triplesod 10 months ago
what is the music on this vid?
vanstrommusic 2 years ago
As stated above, it's 'The Visitor' from the three track ep including tracks 'Searching for Heaven' and 'Animal Crazy' released in 1981 on Illusive. (IVEX 3) Robert Blamire Bass, Wayne Hussey Guitar, Steve Hopkins Keyboard, John Maher Drums.
Tatspunk 2 years ago
Amazing video!!!! Truly great. But, who is the cute boy at side of Martin?
gigi46 2 years ago
on the left..think I know!
thiaanthony 2 years ago
this is fuckin quality footage. 3 things
1. hannett is a legendary mad professor
2. the 4 band EQ comes free with the desk ... ha ha
3. did ya see the size of them echo boxes . fuck me
grimkreaper 2 years ago 5
Martin Hannett es el dios de los productores musicales. Valoro en gran manera la música de manera distinta desde que escuché Joy Division por primera vez.
Thanks for sharing this interesting piece of the history of music.
Enigmaticland 2 years ago
"The next bit is called getting the eq right"
Now thats funny!!!
TheStrugglingArtis 2 years ago
I have always loved these big mixing desks and the tape machines to go with them. It's a shame it's all HDD now, even though the producers like Martin (RIP) would disagree.
fordgt90 2 years ago
Martin Hannett = Fucking Genius-ville. You and Joy Division were as inseparable as George Martin and the Beatles. Rock on.
TheSnowballEarth 2 years ago 5
mucahs gracias por el post. desde3 argentina juan lookingyou
themoregood 2 years ago
Martin hannet was a flawed sonic genius.
permaveg 2 years ago
Nice to see 2 guys from Closer's session together, Martin Hannet and Chris Nagle.
jumofi 3 years ago
Gee, Stockport is sooo cool!
curiousyellow69 3 years ago
Also the brand new A Certain Ratio album "Mind Made Up" is absolutely amazing.
mumble67 3 years ago
The song is "Visitor" by Pauline Murray & the Invisible Girls, who featured Hannett on bass. This clip is worth the world to me as a Hannett freak. Thanks so much for posting it!!!
mumble67 3 years ago 2
No, Robert Blamire (former mate of Pauline Murray in Penetration) was on bass. However, the single is the best disc for the Invisible Girls era of Pauline and, seeing Martin explaining and making his things in the studio, can motivate me to buy that production machines.
FrancoDamn 2 years ago
Does anyone know the name of the song they're mixing?
biggerflexible 3 years ago
Not sure of the song but it's from the Pauline Murray and the Invisible Girls album. Kinda has a Joy Division vibe.
McCainTheTurdburglar 3 years ago
Interesting that he mentioned 'Wayne's guitar' near the start, I thought Wayne Hussey was only on the post-album single Searching For Heaven, which this track isn't, obviously I was wrong!
scatterkeir 3 years ago
Thanks for the post.
biggerflexible 3 years ago
The guy in the studio , left to hannett, looks like Stone Roses guitarist John Squire in 1989 , isn't he ?
NWRA1957 3 years ago
Hannett was a legend and a genius. A fucking nutcase at the same time but a genius all the same.
nelly75 3 years ago
over-produced by martin hannett, take four!
nodarkthings 3 years ago
What's the name of the track/artist he's working on?
dannyb1978 3 years ago
I'm not positive, but it kind of sounds like "Don't Hide in the Shadows" by 'Kissing the Pink'.
even if it isn't, still a good song and worth checking out. i'd recommend just getting one of hannett's compilations.
aubreylear 3 years ago
1:20 secs in, a dance beat 8-10 years ahead of time lol fecking genius
danb92uk 3 years ago
ahead of its time? are you kidding?
check out the band 'suicide'. their first album released 1977 (3 years BEFORE this).
and i'm sure you could name a hundred songs that had a similar minimalistic bass drum beat to the song that came out between 1980 and eight to ten after... 'blue monday' is one off the top of my head.
aubreylear 3 years ago 2
this is brilliant thanks a lot!
Hutchence88 3 years ago
That is brillant-thanks a lot-)
JK240662 3 years ago
Thanks for putting this out there. I've never actually seen Martin on any videos, they don't even have any in the Joy Division documentary.
edsmit1 3 years ago
Martin Hannet, if they had only listened to him
ANDYYEEE 3 years ago 3
not easy this guy, he could have try to explain it at least, he looks a bit stoned too
bethoveen3 3 years ago
wow this is a totally jewel, also martin's sister commenting it, wow wow wow,incredible, cheers from mexico!!!
asdras1 3 years ago
Genio UNico!!!! Martin & Tony in the sky!!!
Julio2112 3 years ago 2
Blimey, this is a bit geekie!!
Probably get all that sound on an apple mac now.
How things have changed.
wildenfree 3 years ago
probably not
sleestack808 2 years ago
In which song is he working on? is it from pauline murray?
pattismithsonian 3 years ago
great clip. i love the way tony tries to tease more in depth explanations from Martin, yet martin knows the average viewer is gonna have no idea as to what he's bangin' on about.
Factory051 3 years ago 4
The best thing about this video's that its like one of those naff science videos you used to have to watch in school ("Confused?! you will be"), but it comprises of two absolute ledgends. I almost cant beleive its on the internet.
Strawberry Studios forever
wojj7 3 years ago
Read the book on Hannett, listened to everything he did, now I finally have a voice/face to go with the myth. I didnt think this video existed, just seen him playing bass on cooper clarke vids.
Cheers.
Richiesambuka 3 years ago
Correction - the Pauline Murray LP being made here was recorded at Strawberry in July 1980.
Immeasurable thanks for digging out this clip
murphsup 3 years ago
Thanks for your comments and the correction. The Betamax tape this clip was from had 1983 scribbled on it - but it was a collection of a few things. I knew it was early 80's. I'll correct it to July '80. All the best
dimitrikissoff 3 years ago
Thanks for this video. It brought back some happy memories for me. Liz - Martin's sister.
lizhannett 3 years ago 14
Hi Liz,
Me too (I knew I had the tape somewhere). I can remember the very first time I saw Martin. He was standing at the bottom of the stairs in UMIST Union about 1968/9 I think. Bob Dylan Blonde on Blonde hair, centre of attention. Seeing him being so Martin on the tape (sort of 'what's the camera doing here, oh I suppose I'll have to carry on with this...' reminded me just how he was. Most of my Beta tapes are a bit perished, but luckily not this one...
dimitrikissoff 3 years ago
nice to see you write, martin made great music.I rate beasley st and the j.division stuff, plus buzzcocks, etc etc long live martin hannet!!!
osomy 3 years ago
Thank you for posting this wonderful clip.
ParnellMooney 3 years ago
It's earlier than 1983, the Pauline Murray LP came out in 1981 I think. But its thrilling - one of very few recordings of Hannett and the only one I know on video. One of the greatest ever producers!
murphsup 3 years ago
Genius at work.
SonofaReaperMan 3 years ago