This is funny! do you honestly believe that a business owner would fire someone because they are black if they bring them profit? Who in the right mind would do that? If that were the case then those business owners who aren't racist will gain competitive advantage because they will be able to hire those profitable discriminated-upon workers and be more competitive against the racist ones.
Although this could happen, if it did, it would only serve to weaken racist social elements.
just because you remove the external forces controlling you on one level does not mean that they go away. you will always have to deal with external forces. better to deal with known ones than one that are hidden in mystery. those with the most will always control us and the government (with all of its flaws) is our voice or we eventually end up in dictatorship at the end of the day.
the alternatives trap you in a tangled web of externals forces controlling you, libertarian is the only answer to sophisticated evolution - rest has proved to be evil for far too many years - I'd like more control of my own life and destiny without the shadow of the organized crime we call government... I'm up for giving it a try!
@rocmon the key phrase you state is "give it a try", problem is that the libertarian experimentation thus far has failed. In our own economy, trying these free market experiments have only lead to rich getting richer and the poor suffering at their will. No one system has the answer. We are best served with a hybrid that is tweaked over time.
@demetriusbiggs I don't see your point on how libertarian-ism has failed (and led to rich getting richer) (?)
What I do see is that the libertarian movement haven't gained enough traction in the mainstream... and I would assert this is due to the protectionist nature of current 'free world' political establishments. They will sling mud and discredit anything that would threaten the stranglehold they have on today's society... that's lame!
@rocmon From libertaianism website "economic deregulation, freer trade, limits on taxes, toleration of minorities, and greater personal freedom" then take the time to look at what has happened every time that we allow these type changes to happen. examples of the failings of these ideas deregulation = food more dangerous, free trade = we lose because we can't force others to play fair, limit taxes = poor/middle class get crushed, minorities = see video, personal free = not
@demetriusbiggs If we use a metaphor like 'baking a loaf of bread' to = 'implementing a libertarian society' ... The examples you quote do not result in the desired outcome of having a 'loaf of bread' on the dinner table - I certainly agree. Doing all the 'right' things in the wrong order and without the right environment will inevitably result in the wrong outcome - and I assert this is deliberate on the part of the current administrations of all democratic societies... to keep the POWER!
@rocmon I actually can agree with you on that statement, but I would add that a socialist or anyone else tied to a system would argue the same thing. All of these political ideas work in a sterile lab without the human factor. I like the ideas of capitalism, but I embrace many of the ideas of socialism to control it. As I see our current system, we need to take the money out of the politics more than change it. For me it is not an issue of this or that, but the best ideas of each system.
@Dragdamar - I think Communism is just as bad as the Libertarian idea. Both views suffer from a very arrogant picture of how they think the world will work. They both leave out the human equation. Both models are based more on the ideas of the philosophy and not the reaction of the human. A better system is one that can make adjustments. It is like a team that only throws the long ball. Once everyone knows that is your game plan...
@shakaama-it is not meant to be taken literally. it is exaggerating one of the many problems of the libertarian or "government out of my business" idea. All systems have flaw, but ignoring the flaws does not fix them. The same goes for socialism. This idea of less government will create new reasons for more government. There has to be a balance or the poorest among us suffer. Poverty is just a natural side-effect of capitalism.
@demetriusbiggs seems to have worked for the country for 100 years eh? wonder why? and this isn't an exaggeration, it is a complete lie. exaggerating would be taking libertarian ideals to an extreme, ti doesn't mean everyone becomes a moron however. noone would fire a smart black man that outperforms everyone in the company.
Dont believe it? think back to slavery and jim crow, whites kept the best blacks right next to them, all the while, calling them N**** they weren't fools.
@Numberoneblind you might want to go to the libertarian website and look at the libertarian platform. stop being stupid and go look for yourself. ron has always been republican, NOT libertarian. *sigh* come on now son.
Don't get me wrong, I like some of his stuff, but he's not libertarian. In fact, he's not even remotely Libertarian.
@shakaama Hahaha it's always the immature and the foolish that participate in name-calling.I know exactly what their platform is . Ron Paul has not always been Republican and if he was FOX would be all over him instead of shutting him out. First off he has run as Democrat. And second libertarianism is a philosophy much like conservatism and liberalism. (Although he does follow the party platform pretty closely.) I suggest you read some of his books and research him and stop making assumptions.
@Numberoneblind you persists in speaking and did not go to the libertarian website. it's quite easy: Google dot com; libertarian party. click first option.
He is so not libertarian it's not even close. While you're going on about how great he is, how about you listen to a Libertarian? namely me, I run like 2 libertarian websites, a group and a Facebook page. I'm pretty sure I know what a Libertarian is and Ron Paul isn't one. don't get all riled up over nothing, he's not ours.
@shakaama Um, first off I did and I don't know what would give you the impression I didn't. Second off you must not have read a word that I've said. I am a libertarian as well. Rather than posting an empty response how about you explain how Ron Paul is not a libertarian as opposed to resting your argument on "go to the website." and "I have websites." And btw that's great that you have your own websites. So do conservative Christians and the KKK.
@shakaama (Continued)...and just to add, if you go to that website and use the websites search engine you will find multiple posts on Ron Paul. The forth one down even starts off with "Libertarian Congressman Ron Paul." So your website isn't helping you. Also I am as libertarian as you are. Seriously research Ron Paul. And please if you're going to continue please show how Ron Paul is not libertarian as opposed to saying it and then stating "go to the site", "I have sites" and "i'm libertarian."
@Numberoneblind Judging him by what he DOES and not just what he says, he fails on at least 5 Libertarian platform planks: abortion; immigration; entitlement programs; government spending ( look up his voting record, I know he talks a good game, but he's not 100% ); taxes ( another red herring for him ).
Ron Paul doesn’t like abortion / the idea of open borders / doesn't want to end Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, "if the people don't like it". - MSNBC interview last month.
@shakaama [1] To say he fails on 5 platforms is to say that the libertarian party basically dictates libertarianism which simply isn't the case. There are numerous issues and not all libertarians agree with one another on EVERY SINGLE THING. The same goes for Republicans, Democrats, and any other party. For example, not all libertarians are "pro-choice" on abortion (L4L-dot-org wouldn't exist otherwise.)....
@shakaama [2] (cont'd)...instead of focusing on "women's rights to their bodies" (found nowhere in the constitution) they focus on whether or not an unborn child is considered to be a life. Some say yes and therefore argue that the life of an unborn child deserves the same protection as the life of anyone that has left the womb. A number of his issues are also based on his interpretation of the purpose of constitutional amendments and the history of the constitution...
@shakaama [3] (Cont'd)...Am I behind him 110 percent? No. But I understand his position and why he votes the way he does (unlike progressive MSNBC) so I respect and support him. There are different forms of Libertarianism. He is likely a right-libertarian. Even the libertarian party recognizes they don't have a monopoly on libertarianism. It's probably why you find people on LPdotorg that follow him and refer to him as libertarian. Your agrument against him is basically that he isn't partisan.
@shakaama Libertarian philosophy existed LONG before the party. Just like all philosophies it has it's root. I believe it's existed since the 1800's and has evolved overtime. The Libertarian Party was formed in 1972.
Parties don't dictate philosophies. They are formed based on them. That would be like me saying that the Republican Party dictates what a republic ought to be.
I suggest using Wikipedia as a starting point if you want a better answer. It's page on Libertarianism is well sourced.
@Nuberoneblind - I for one, don't want to have to give that extra freedom to be racist to impose on my lifestyle. If I am in the south and I stop for gas, I don't want to stop at that one station in the middle of nowhere and another station miles away to be that one that does not serve blacks. If I stop for gas, then I want my gas. It is that simple for me.
@demetriusbiggs The only gas stations where one would even have that issue is one's in which you are not able to pump your own gas and quite frankly I doubt the FED has much control over what happens at those.
Everyone thinks that the second the government gets out of things we'll swing back into 1843 but that's simply not the case. Most libertarians anyways would still leave some degree of regulation up to the states although they'd be very careful with what they do leave up to them.
@Numberoneblind - all systems have problems. The Libertarian idea is not all bad. The point of the video is to point out some of the holes in the idea. Libertarians seem to want this idea set forth, but refuse to acknowledge the flaws it has. Even worse, they just pretend that it will fix itself. Another great example of Libertarian ideas gone bad is the private prison industry. We are finding private business is cold and will put kids in jail for anything just to make money.
Wasn't the problem of segregation that their were laws that supported segregation? There were plenty of white people that supported the rights of blacks but could do nothing due to the law. Libertarianism supports that everyone basically does what they want to do so the free market would still support minorities because not every business owner is a flaming racist.
@widgift2 -ty, my biggest problem is they see everything in a vacuum and refuse to address any of the systems short falls. all systems have flaws, but if you don't acknowledge the flaws, the results of the flaws, or how to fix them then you are only living in your world. When you end up with an even worse situation than we have now, then how do you fix it. Libertarianism is just another way of packaging royalty, because those who have will own the rest of us (not that they don't"
@demetriusbiggs Libertarianism isn't "another way of packaging royalty" at all. By saying this you completely ignore Libertarian positions on social issues. Libertarians believe in fixing the flaw of systems but they don't believe in doing it through government for various reasons. The systems shortfalls are that the government which has no incentive to create anything efficient and cost-effective, is involved. Issues become vulnerable to an endless stream of politics over time. Look @ Amtrak...
@demetriusbiggs (cont'd)...or any other business government has interfered in. Look @ New York banning smokers from bars (when it clearly should be left up to the owner.) Look @ prohibition. The gov. just panders to the majority with no real concern for individual freedom. So there are many that suffer for "the greater good." If some businesses were deregulated right now they'd be allowed to appeal to their customer base thus creating jobs. We are so quick to forgive gov. failures and for what?
@wildgift2 What does that matter? Progressives are rich as well and not every single institution, organization, or firm is owned by a racist. People behave almost as if once the government backed off society would swing back into the 1765 but it isn't the case. If the government were smaller we would all have more money and be allowed to make money whichever way we saw fit as long as we do not commit fraud or harm anyone. The govt. can't even run the DMV correctly why are they so trusted?
Once again we have someone who does not understand the use of satire. Let me make it simple. As a writer, I use overt examples to point out subtle problems. If I were posting a blog, then I would use a more direct and detailed approach. Understand it for what it is!!!
@demetriusbiggs uh you need to read thomas sowell Economic Facts and Fallacies, think about it this way it costs money to be racist as a business. say you own a private golf course and you have a tournament and you dont want tiger woods, viewers declined about 55% when he hurt himself and was out for a while. as you can see its not worth it to be racist, same as if you wanted an all white sports team your now disadvantaged to your competition. these are extreme cases but this is how it works
If the company keeps the clients or not is the clients choice. And with a reputation of being racist, they probably loose a lot more clients than those the black guy brought in.
And it is logical to assume, that he got his job through some kind of affirmative action, otherwise the racist boss wouldn't have hired him in the first place (as he shouldn't be forced to do).
If you want to point out flaws of libertarianism, don't use moronic examples like this.
@coaster61 - The video is just a gross exaggeration of the work place under the Libertarian idea. If Jackie Robinson or Rosa Parks had taken that stand, then think where we would be. It is not a matter of being comfortable, but a matter of having a chance at the same opportunities. You assumed affirmative action when I didn't provide you with that background information. Should companies just be structured by the standards of a social club?
@demetriusbiggs Companies should be structured in the way their owner wants them to be structured. If he only wants to hire his buddies, that is his right.
@Chaosdada It is just not a realistic view of the world and how it works. It depends on if you believe in what America was built on or not. If you embrace the kingdoms that the settlers ran away from, then I think supporting this form of business makes sense. It creates the foundation to put those very kingdoms back in place. Just because you change the names from kingdoms to companies does not make it right. It is unAmerican. Read about feudalism and then think about it.
@demetriusbiggs LOL If you believe the freedom of private businessmen from government interference (which is one of the things America was build on and what people had not in those kingdoms) leads to feudalism, you are not a trustworthy source about what is realistic.
The foundation of feudalism by the way is without any doubt the doctrine of divine right - that some bloodlines are chosen by god to own the other people and rule over them.
@demetriusbiggs And another thing. In the real world people hire and fire whoever they want. If the boss wants to fire the black guy because he is a racist, he will do so even if there is a law against discrimination, just without telling the truth about why he fires him.
If something like affirmative action is the only reason this guy works for this company, then it's simply not in his best interest to be there. This employer would show his hatred in other ways.
@jbeagyd-A bunch of Blacks pulled a White guy who had NOTHING to do with anything out of his truck in LA. When I go to visit Houston, my family has to warn me not to go into particular areas. I honestly don't think that we will ever get Libertarianism in any type of pure form, but it (like socialism) always avoids acknowledging the flaws and weaknesses within the system. The series that I am working on just points out some of the holes in the system when you put people into the equation.
This video is REALLY REALLY stupid.
Vindigary 1 month ago
This is funny! do you honestly believe that a business owner would fire someone because they are black if they bring them profit? Who in the right mind would do that? If that were the case then those business owners who aren't racist will gain competitive advantage because they will be able to hire those profitable discriminated-upon workers and be more competitive against the racist ones.
Although this could happen, if it did, it would only serve to weaken racist social elements.
dkronst 2 months ago
This is a racist video in itself, its suggesting that white employers would fire blacks because they are inherently racist. Bullshit. Ron Paul 2012!
StayKurdish 3 months ago
just because you remove the external forces controlling you on one level does not mean that they go away. you will always have to deal with external forces. better to deal with known ones than one that are hidden in mystery. those with the most will always control us and the government (with all of its flaws) is our voice or we eventually end up in dictatorship at the end of the day.
demetriusbiggs 3 months ago
the alternatives trap you in a tangled web of externals forces controlling you, libertarian is the only answer to sophisticated evolution - rest has proved to be evil for far too many years - I'd like more control of my own life and destiny without the shadow of the organized crime we call government... I'm up for giving it a try!
rocmon 3 months ago
@rocmon the key phrase you state is "give it a try", problem is that the libertarian experimentation thus far has failed. In our own economy, trying these free market experiments have only lead to rich getting richer and the poor suffering at their will. No one system has the answer. We are best served with a hybrid that is tweaked over time.
demetriusbiggs 3 months ago
@demetriusbiggs I don't see your point on how libertarian-ism has failed (and led to rich getting richer) (?)
What I do see is that the libertarian movement haven't gained enough traction in the mainstream... and I would assert this is due to the protectionist nature of current 'free world' political establishments. They will sling mud and discredit anything that would threaten the stranglehold they have on today's society... that's lame!
rocmon 3 months ago
@rocmon From libertaianism website "economic deregulation, freer trade, limits on taxes, toleration of minorities, and greater personal freedom" then take the time to look at what has happened every time that we allow these type changes to happen. examples of the failings of these ideas deregulation = food more dangerous, free trade = we lose because we can't force others to play fair, limit taxes = poor/middle class get crushed, minorities = see video, personal free = not
demetriusbiggs 3 months ago
@demetriusbiggs If we use a metaphor like 'baking a loaf of bread' to = 'implementing a libertarian society' ... The examples you quote do not result in the desired outcome of having a 'loaf of bread' on the dinner table - I certainly agree. Doing all the 'right' things in the wrong order and without the right environment will inevitably result in the wrong outcome - and I assert this is deliberate on the part of the current administrations of all democratic societies... to keep the POWER!
rocmon 3 months ago
@rocmon I actually can agree with you on that statement, but I would add that a socialist or anyone else tied to a system would argue the same thing. All of these political ideas work in a sterile lab without the human factor. I like the ideas of capitalism, but I embrace many of the ideas of socialism to control it. As I see our current system, we need to take the money out of the politics more than change it. For me it is not an issue of this or that, but the best ideas of each system.
demetriusbiggs 3 months ago
@Dragdamar - I think Communism is just as bad as the Libertarian idea. Both views suffer from a very arrogant picture of how they think the world will work. They both leave out the human equation. Both models are based more on the ideas of the philosophy and not the reaction of the human. A better system is one that can make adjustments. It is like a team that only throws the long ball. Once everyone knows that is your game plan...
demetriusbiggs 4 months ago
Written by a communist.
Dragdamar 5 months ago
@shakaama-it is not meant to be taken literally. it is exaggerating one of the many problems of the libertarian or "government out of my business" idea. All systems have flaw, but ignoring the flaws does not fix them. The same goes for socialism. This idea of less government will create new reasons for more government. There has to be a balance or the poorest among us suffer. Poverty is just a natural side-effect of capitalism.
demetriusbiggs 6 months ago
@demetriusbiggs seems to have worked for the country for 100 years eh? wonder why? and this isn't an exaggeration, it is a complete lie. exaggerating would be taking libertarian ideals to an extreme, ti doesn't mean everyone becomes a moron however. noone would fire a smart black man that outperforms everyone in the company.
Dont believe it? think back to slavery and jim crow, whites kept the best blacks right next to them, all the while, calling them N**** they weren't fools.
shakaama 6 months ago
big flaw with your video.
1. Ron Paul IS NOT, I repeat, IS NOT a Libertarian
2. Libertarians do not believe in firing all the judges, i.e. law suits, this brother would have, if this had actually happened.
So your video is horribly bad.
shakaama 6 months ago
@shakaama Yes he is.
Numberoneblind 6 months ago
@Numberoneblind you might want to go to the libertarian website and look at the libertarian platform. stop being stupid and go look for yourself. ron has always been republican, NOT libertarian. *sigh* come on now son.
Don't get me wrong, I like some of his stuff, but he's not libertarian. In fact, he's not even remotely Libertarian.
shakaama 6 months ago
@shakaama Hahaha it's always the immature and the foolish that participate in name-calling.I know exactly what their platform is . Ron Paul has not always been Republican and if he was FOX would be all over him instead of shutting him out. First off he has run as Democrat. And second libertarianism is a philosophy much like conservatism and liberalism. (Although he does follow the party platform pretty closely.) I suggest you read some of his books and research him and stop making assumptions.
Numberoneblind 6 months ago
@Numberoneblind you persists in speaking and did not go to the libertarian website. it's quite easy: Google dot com; libertarian party. click first option.
He is so not libertarian it's not even close. While you're going on about how great he is, how about you listen to a Libertarian? namely me, I run like 2 libertarian websites, a group and a Facebook page. I'm pretty sure I know what a Libertarian is and Ron Paul isn't one. don't get all riled up over nothing, he's not ours.
shakaama 6 months ago
@shakaama Um, first off I did and I don't know what would give you the impression I didn't. Second off you must not have read a word that I've said. I am a libertarian as well. Rather than posting an empty response how about you explain how Ron Paul is not a libertarian as opposed to resting your argument on "go to the website." and "I have websites." And btw that's great that you have your own websites. So do conservative Christians and the KKK.
Numberoneblind 6 months ago
@shakaama (Continued)...and just to add, if you go to that website and use the websites search engine you will find multiple posts on Ron Paul. The forth one down even starts off with "Libertarian Congressman Ron Paul." So your website isn't helping you. Also I am as libertarian as you are. Seriously research Ron Paul. And please if you're going to continue please show how Ron Paul is not libertarian as opposed to saying it and then stating "go to the site", "I have sites" and "i'm libertarian."
Numberoneblind 6 months ago
@Numberoneblind Judging him by what he DOES and not just what he says, he fails on at least 5 Libertarian platform planks: abortion; immigration; entitlement programs; government spending ( look up his voting record, I know he talks a good game, but he's not 100% ); taxes ( another red herring for him ).
Ron Paul doesn’t like abortion / the idea of open borders / doesn't want to end Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, "if the people don't like it". - MSNBC interview last month.
shakaama 6 months ago
@shakaama [1] To say he fails on 5 platforms is to say that the libertarian party basically dictates libertarianism which simply isn't the case. There are numerous issues and not all libertarians agree with one another on EVERY SINGLE THING. The same goes for Republicans, Democrats, and any other party. For example, not all libertarians are "pro-choice" on abortion (L4L-dot-org wouldn't exist otherwise.)....
Numberoneblind 6 months ago
@shakaama [2] (cont'd)...instead of focusing on "women's rights to their bodies" (found nowhere in the constitution) they focus on whether or not an unborn child is considered to be a life. Some say yes and therefore argue that the life of an unborn child deserves the same protection as the life of anyone that has left the womb. A number of his issues are also based on his interpretation of the purpose of constitutional amendments and the history of the constitution...
Numberoneblind 6 months ago
@shakaama [3] (Cont'd)...Am I behind him 110 percent? No. But I understand his position and why he votes the way he does (unlike progressive MSNBC) so I respect and support him. There are different forms of Libertarianism. He is likely a right-libertarian. Even the libertarian party recognizes they don't have a monopoly on libertarianism. It's probably why you find people on LPdotorg that follow him and refer to him as libertarian. Your agrument against him is basically that he isn't partisan.
Numberoneblind 6 months ago
@Numberoneblind that's like being a little pregnant, or being hit with a soft rock, or half raped.
Really?
And, if the Libertarian party isn't the definition of Libertarian who is? smh
shakaama 6 months ago
@shakaama Libertarian philosophy existed LONG before the party. Just like all philosophies it has it's root. I believe it's existed since the 1800's and has evolved overtime. The Libertarian Party was formed in 1972.
Parties don't dictate philosophies. They are formed based on them. That would be like me saying that the Republican Party dictates what a republic ought to be.
I suggest using Wikipedia as a starting point if you want a better answer. It's page on Libertarianism is well sourced.
Numberoneblind 6 months ago
@Nuberoneblind - I for one, don't want to have to give that extra freedom to be racist to impose on my lifestyle. If I am in the south and I stop for gas, I don't want to stop at that one station in the middle of nowhere and another station miles away to be that one that does not serve blacks. If I stop for gas, then I want my gas. It is that simple for me.
demetriusbiggs 6 months ago
@demetriusbiggs The only gas stations where one would even have that issue is one's in which you are not able to pump your own gas and quite frankly I doubt the FED has much control over what happens at those.
Everyone thinks that the second the government gets out of things we'll swing back into 1843 but that's simply not the case. Most libertarians anyways would still leave some degree of regulation up to the states although they'd be very careful with what they do leave up to them.
Numberoneblind 6 months ago
@Numberoneblind - all systems have problems. The Libertarian idea is not all bad. The point of the video is to point out some of the holes in the idea. Libertarians seem to want this idea set forth, but refuse to acknowledge the flaws it has. Even worse, they just pretend that it will fix itself. Another great example of Libertarian ideas gone bad is the private prison industry. We are finding private business is cold and will put kids in jail for anything just to make money.
demetriusbiggs 6 months ago
Wasn't the problem of segregation that their were laws that supported segregation? There were plenty of white people that supported the rights of blacks but could do nothing due to the law. Libertarianism supports that everyone basically does what they want to do so the free market would still support minorities because not every business owner is a flaming racist.
Numberoneblind 6 months ago
@Numberoneblind *There
Numberoneblind 6 months ago
@widgift2 -ty, my biggest problem is they see everything in a vacuum and refuse to address any of the systems short falls. all systems have flaws, but if you don't acknowledge the flaws, the results of the flaws, or how to fix them then you are only living in your world. When you end up with an even worse situation than we have now, then how do you fix it. Libertarianism is just another way of packaging royalty, because those who have will own the rest of us (not that they don't"
demetriusbiggs 7 months ago
@demetriusbiggs Libertarianism isn't "another way of packaging royalty" at all. By saying this you completely ignore Libertarian positions on social issues. Libertarians believe in fixing the flaw of systems but they don't believe in doing it through government for various reasons. The systems shortfalls are that the government which has no incentive to create anything efficient and cost-effective, is involved. Issues become vulnerable to an endless stream of politics over time. Look @ Amtrak...
Numberoneblind 6 months ago
@demetriusbiggs (cont'd)...or any other business government has interfered in. Look @ New York banning smokers from bars (when it clearly should be left up to the owner.) Look @ prohibition. The gov. just panders to the majority with no real concern for individual freedom. So there are many that suffer for "the greater good." If some businesses were deregulated right now they'd be allowed to appeal to their customer base thus creating jobs. We are so quick to forgive gov. failures and for what?
Numberoneblind 6 months ago
That was awesome. One of the big things that libertarians ignore is the power of institutions, organizations, and firms.
wildgift2 7 months ago
@wildgift2 What does that matter? Progressives are rich as well and not every single institution, organization, or firm is owned by a racist. People behave almost as if once the government backed off society would swing back into the 1765 but it isn't the case. If the government were smaller we would all have more money and be allowed to make money whichever way we saw fit as long as we do not commit fraud or harm anyone. The govt. can't even run the DMV correctly why are they so trusted?
Numberoneblind 6 months ago
Once again we have someone who does not understand the use of satire. Let me make it simple. As a writer, I use overt examples to point out subtle problems. If I were posting a blog, then I would use a more direct and detailed approach. Understand it for what it is!!!
demetriusbiggs 7 months ago
@demetriusbiggs uh you need to read thomas sowell Economic Facts and Fallacies, think about it this way it costs money to be racist as a business. say you own a private golf course and you have a tournament and you dont want tiger woods, viewers declined about 55% when he hurt himself and was out for a while. as you can see its not worth it to be racist, same as if you wanted an all white sports team your now disadvantaged to your competition. these are extreme cases but this is how it works
cucucachu0000 7 months ago
If the company keeps the clients or not is the clients choice. And with a reputation of being racist, they probably loose a lot more clients than those the black guy brought in.
And it is logical to assume, that he got his job through some kind of affirmative action, otherwise the racist boss wouldn't have hired him in the first place (as he shouldn't be forced to do).
If you want to point out flaws of libertarianism, don't use moronic examples like this.
Chaosdada 7 months ago
@coaster61 - The video is just a gross exaggeration of the work place under the Libertarian idea. If Jackie Robinson or Rosa Parks had taken that stand, then think where we would be. It is not a matter of being comfortable, but a matter of having a chance at the same opportunities. You assumed affirmative action when I didn't provide you with that background information. Should companies just be structured by the standards of a social club?
demetriusbiggs 9 months ago
@demetriusbiggs Companies should be structured in the way their owner wants them to be structured. If he only wants to hire his buddies, that is his right.
Chaosdada 7 months ago
@Chaosdada It is just not a realistic view of the world and how it works. It depends on if you believe in what America was built on or not. If you embrace the kingdoms that the settlers ran away from, then I think supporting this form of business makes sense. It creates the foundation to put those very kingdoms back in place. Just because you change the names from kingdoms to companies does not make it right. It is unAmerican. Read about feudalism and then think about it.
demetriusbiggs 7 months ago
@demetriusbiggs LOL If you believe the freedom of private businessmen from government interference (which is one of the things America was build on and what people had not in those kingdoms) leads to feudalism, you are not a trustworthy source about what is realistic.
The foundation of feudalism by the way is without any doubt the doctrine of divine right - that some bloodlines are chosen by god to own the other people and rule over them.
Chaosdada 7 months ago
@demetriusbiggs And another thing. In the real world people hire and fire whoever they want. If the boss wants to fire the black guy because he is a racist, he will do so even if there is a law against discrimination, just without telling the truth about why he fires him.
Chaosdada 7 months ago
If something like affirmative action is the only reason this guy works for this company, then it's simply not in his best interest to be there. This employer would show his hatred in other ways.
coaster61 9 months ago
@jbeagyd-A bunch of Blacks pulled a White guy who had NOTHING to do with anything out of his truck in LA. When I go to visit Houston, my family has to warn me not to go into particular areas. I honestly don't think that we will ever get Libertarianism in any type of pure form, but it (like socialism) always avoids acknowledging the flaws and weaknesses within the system. The series that I am working on just points out some of the holes in the system when you put people into the equation.
demetriusbiggs 10 months ago
This is the most ignorant crap! Will never happen!
jbeagyd 10 months ago